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[–]easternenigma26 points27 points28 points 9 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
Contrary to Popular Belief Asians are not Clones: Let's say an Asian girl only >dated white dudes. Now she is thirty and she has decided to date you. You find >out about her Caucasian travels and act like your dad when he saw that B+. >Why? The Asian dudes she rejected aren't your clones. She wasn't rejecting you. >She was rejecting other men. Other men that don't have your qualities and who >could have had any number of flaws. Your not clones. Dumping her isn't going >to score team Asian Dude any points.
An asian dude should not reject a bang from a girl like this but he should never LTR an asian girl who suddenly decides to go back to what she perceives as beta bucks racial safety after riding the cock carousel.
So I disagree with your statement right here. This is horrible advice. It's playing right into alpha fucks/beta bucks dynamic. She's been riding the white carousel and suddenly retreats back to asian men when she hits the wall. An asian man should absolutely not LTR this up.
[+]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] -7 points-6 points-5 points 9 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
I feel like you are projecting your belief that you are a beta bucks. If you arnt a beta you have nothing to fear.
[–]easternenigma22 points23 points24 points 9 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
No, i'm not projecting the belief I am beta bucks but it's clear that's what her intentions are in that scenario. Note that I said this is what "she perceives" of course it matters whether or not you play into her mindset.
Why should an asian man LTR an asian girl who is hitting the wall and rode the carousel hard? Let's be real. That's an awful piece of advice.
[+]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] -9 points-8 points-7 points 9 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
What are her intentions? Its not her fault Asian men were to shy to approach her and only whites made an attempt.
[–]easternenigma9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Her intentions are to lock down a man post wall because she's all used up now.
A woman who has a long history of only dating and preferring one race while rejecting all others doesn't do it because of some freak coincidence or "shyness" coming from asian guys.
[+]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] -6 points-5 points-4 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Asians are a minority group here. Most attractive men in the US are white because most men are white.
[–]easternenigma8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Not in all metro areas. There are all kinds of asian men in Southern CA, Hawaii, and NY. This is where most asians are anyhow. If an asian woman in an area like that has a history of single race preference you know something is up.
Anyways, I think you're probably having a laugh.
Implying guys should LTR post-wall carousel women is sabotage type advice.
[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] -4 points-3 points-2 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Never said post wall carousel women. Just women who have had non asian sexual partners.
[–]easternenigma9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
30's is post wall. Dating only whites and suddenly going back to her race is strong evidence of carousel riding.
Listen, we can go back and forth with this but it's obvious you're just fucking around with bad advice for shits and giggles. I'll just leave it at that.
[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] -4 points-3 points-2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
There are asian women in medical and pharm school who are in their late twenties and never rode the cock carousel.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Dude, it's simple: if there are signs of the carousel, then don't marry her. I don't understand what you're arguing about. If a woman is looking for a beta bux, that has no effect on you as long as you know what you are doing. It's not like she can just magically trap you in a ltr, not unless you allow her to. Get the bang, plate her, end of story. What's the problem here?
[–]rpkarma4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Wow. GLO on the downvote train, I got downvoted for pointing out that dudes who prefer 40yo+ "Cougars" do it because they can't get young tight pussy...
It's not September, right?
[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Its hard to give TRP babies thier bitter medicine.
[–]Stinkfished1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It must also be hard squatting while writing all that.
[–]Krobrah_Kai7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ultimately, it will be up to Asian guy to accept that some cards will be stacked against him and act accordingly. Life and love isn't fair. Acknowledge it, but dont dwell on it. Definitely don't let it consume you. Victimhood isn't masculine and it certainly attracts no one. Just look at the visceral reaction in here.
What the non-Asian guys in here don't realize is that some Asian American women have such a serious case of self-hate, she'll go nuclear if an Asian man deigns to approach her. Emasculating comments, false rape accusations, physical assault. All for being the wrong skin color...hers. Check out squattincasanova's YouTube if you think I am making this shit up. It will make your blood boil.
Some of you may be asking, "Krobrah_Kai, you should count yourself blessed for having dodge that crazy train." My comment is not so much a condemnation, but a caveat: there are many iterations of this chick out there (those brave independent unicorns).
I also want other men to see this chick as she truly is: an old shrew who overplayed her hand -- but now needs her BB -- even though she views her best option with contempt. Why on earth would you want someone like that to be the mother to your child? What sort of harm could she inflict on your son? Negatory, dai lo. Avoid. At. All. Costs.
Put it another way, we Asians avoid these yellow boomerangs for the same reasons white men not prefer to ltr a reformed mudshark (nothing against black men, just using the anology). There are better choices out there. Too much damage. Too much baggage.
[–]bobbatosakosanose34 points35 points36 points 9 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
I don't agree. Its just AF/BB. It so happens more whites and blacks make up the AF because Asia doesn't sexually select for alpha like the west does. They are right in rejecting used goods. These girls come to them for LTR's. Only suckers play that game. And I'm glad that Asians and Indians don't play capt save a ho as much as whites and blacks do. They don't wife single mothers. Arabs too. Why? Their smv back home is higher than the locals because they earn in dollars. They can get virgin pussy if they want marriage. Women of their race know they got serious competition.
[–]_---__---_-1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Arabs kill their own daughters if they stray?
[–]Limekill0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Occasionally... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing
[–][deleted] 18 points19 points20 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Contrary to Popular Belief Asians are not Clones: Let's say an Asian girl only dated white dudes. Now she is thirty and she has decided to date you. You find out about her Caucasian travels and act like your dad when he saw that B+. Why? The Asian dudes she rejected aren't your clones. She wasn't rejecting you. She was rejecting other men. Other men that don't have your qualities and who could have had any number of flaws. Your not clones. Dumping her isn't going to score team Asian Dude any points.
She's 30 and looking for BB dude. Let's not sell our Asian friends here a used car and call it their fault for not buying.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Its not a question of Asian guy rejecting her based on the fact that she didn't date Asian guys in the past, but rather one where the Asian guy realizes that he is going to be a Beta Bux and that this bitch isn't attracted to him at all, but only settling for him because he is willing to date her. If a hot non-Asian guy threw his dick at this post wall Asian cunt, you can bet her tits that she will gobble that dick down, and never tell her Asian BB. But, he can still fuck her, as long as he don't date her
[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] -4 points-3 points-2 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
My Lab was filled with 30 something year old women who never cock partied because they were working on PHDs.
[–]R4F15 points6 points7 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
A chaste 31 year old is definitely better than a carousel-ridden 31 year old. But even then, I would recommend Asians or anyone in general to avoid those women, and opt for someone close to their biological prime (i.e., someone pre-Wall, and in their 20's).
This should be a lesson to both the "independent woman" sluts and the "independent woman" too focused on their careers, that they wasted the biological prime of their life either way. From a man's perspective, he may not be getting a used car, but he is getting an outdated model still. A man has appreciating value (his resources/skill increase with age), a woman has depreciating value (her beauty/biology deteriorates with age).
http://www.ndss.org/Down-Syndrome/What-Is-Down-Syndrome/
The chances of birth defects increase, not linearly but exponentially, with every year a woman gets older. In this case, the likelihood for down syndrome at a given age:
See what I mean, the increase is exponential. The chances of you catching HIV from an HIV/AIDs positive person through unprotected vaginal sex is between 0.01 to 0.4%. The chances of a 35 yr old woman giving birth to a down syndrome baby is 0.3%, for a 49 yr old woman it's 10%.
Want a real life example? Sarah Palin. She has 5 children. Her eldest son was born in 1989, when she was 25. Her youngest son Trig was born in 2008, when she was 44. Trig has downs syndrome.
[–]needless_pickup_line9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Then why not scoop them up when they're 21 working on their Bachelor's?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lab? U work for Balkan pharma? :P
its possible to get a phd and ride the carousel at the same time.
[–]Senior ContributorNightwingTRP9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Probably the weakest post I've seen by GayLubeOil :(
It does touch upon a really interesting discussion on stereotypes and how humanity uses them. This is something TRP could potentially exploit once explored properly.
[–]16 TRP VanguardTRPsubmitter20 points21 points22 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I'm lucky enough that I have good genetics to be taller and buffer than average (or the physical frame to be buffer than average). So I have had the experience of Asian girls viewing me as some post-wall diamond in the rough where they can finally find an Asian guy who is masculine enough.
I also have said repeatedly on TRP that any race of girl is fine and "revenge rejecting" Asian girls is pretty dumb. A hole is a hole!
So that brings us to the question of should Asian guys reject Asian girls *who are the 'only dated white guys before' type? My answer: For relationships but not for sex.
I personally wouldn't date an Asian girl who proudly claimed "never dated an Asian girl before". But I don't entitle myself to thinking they should only date Asian men; I just reserve the right not to date them.
I don't care about a plate's past; sex is sex. But for relationships, these white guy exclusive Asian girls are always fucked up. I've met so many of those girls and trust me, there's always something wrong with them for relationships. These girls aren't "normal" or "good" Asian girls. If you are raised in an Asian community, you'll know what I mean by this. These are the types of girls who hangout in foreigner bars in Seoul and are not even close to being what a typical Asian girl with Asian friends is like.
Back to the issue: the problem is Asian guys who are angry and think by rejecting Asian women, they are "getting even". The only thing Asian men need to do is to stop being doormats when post-wall Asian women come knocking for that "I want to appreciate my culture and date an Asian guy for once!".
That is one way to make Asian women realize you're not a doormat. The problem is that lonely Asian guys ARE doormats and they jump at the chance to finally date that semi-hot Asian girl when she's 29. Then they get mad when they find out about her past. Well, the solution is to make yourself attractive enough so you can get BETTER than these leftover Asian chicks.
So that is the one and only instance in which rejecting Asian women is appropriate; and that's only for a CERTAIN type of Asian women. Rejecting all of them just because you had a bad experience is small-minded and just plain dumb. Especially for plates/sex, it doesn't matter if she fucked a hockey team for all I care. Just keep Asian women as plates and proceed as you would normally for any woman.
So what types of Asian men do this? The question: Does/can he get sex regularly from Asian women? If he cannot, then that Asian guy will be butthurt about the whole issue. It all stems from hating what you can't have. If he can, then there's really no issue.
Like I said though, I have had an overall positive experience with Asian women and I've seen the whole spectrum of druggie, car model, skateboarding, rapper Asians who aren't nerds (which many westerners living in Podunk, USA do not see regularly). The negative part comes in ONLY with the post-wall entitled women looking for Asian beta bux.
TL;DR I will bang any Asian women if she's attractive, even if she says I'm her first Asian guy. It's sex. I will not invest (date) that type of Asian woman though.
[–]easternenigma13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree with this 100%
A woman who rejects her own race and is only looking for a safety net with her own race after reaching the end of her youth is toxic to the core. A relationship is impossible with this sort of woman. Pump and dump only.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When you become an Asian with a relatively high SMV, you will get a lot MORE shit tests because women will be in disbelief that an Asian can be attractive. Trust me, any high value man knows that it's not green grass on the other side. You're literally going to war with the knowledge to save your ass from being plugged in.
As an Asian, you need to keep in mind that by default, you have set stereotypes that have been engrained into the masses, and you can't do anything about it. Being short, frail, weak, nerdy, bad social life, traditional family rules, no sense of style, sexual anxiety issues, you name it.
As long as you're breaking those stereotypes, you're going down the right road.
Women are curious as fuck, if she's been fucking white dudes her whole life, and she lays eyes on an attractive asian guy, she's probably thinking: Someone different for once! She'll shit test the fuck out of you, and if you handle yourself while holding frame, you'll have an even edge with the white guys she's fucking.
[–]Endorsed ContributorCrimsonCapsule5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've lived in the Big Three asian countries, and they all have this crazy belief in what is "normal". A normal Chinese does not do this. A normal Japanese behaves like this.
There is no "normal" any more. There is only what works. But that is difficult to accept in Asia. Success is punished the same as failure, if it's the "wrong" kind of success — if you broke the rules to win.
But TRP doesn't care. And neither should you.
I will agree that if an Asian girl slept around and then got a case of sudden yellow fever once it was time to make her parents happy about her marriage, she's a bad prospect. But that has more to do with slutting it up, not race.
[–]silwhg11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
GLO you failed hard here. These Asian girls would still be with white guys if they could, so why would any Asian guy take them, when they know the girls are just settling for them?
[–]R4F11 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
By the time they hit the wall, they realize (well actually they don't realize, since their hamstering prevents it) they're no different than a Bangkok whore. They're an "exotic" fruit that's been plucked, tasted and pounded by countless white or non-white men, but for whatever reason nobody was ready to wifey them. Duh! People go to Bangkok to get their balls tickled, they can love all the Asian women they want but they won't wifey none! She would absolutely marry that white alpha man if she could, but that white guy isn't nearly as dumb as her. Unless you're a Beta Bux like Zuckerberg, the average white alpha wants nothing to do with her.
[–]easternenigma2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A woman like this has nothing to offer to any man except her pussy. She's mentally and spiritually a broken person.
That's just the simple uncompromised truth of the matter.
No person with this amount of self loathing has a healthy image of herself or others.
Even if you're white why would you wife up or have kids with someone like this? Ask half-asian people sometime how they like being raised by a self loathing asian mom who constantly lowers their own self esteem.
This is how Elliot Rodger was formed.
A girl cannot settle for you, not unless you allow her to. Remember that men hold the power of commitment. Not the other way around. So if you are afraid of becoming beta bux, it is because you are weak and don't have the ability to exercise this power. It also shows you are focused on a relationship. If that's what you want, then by all means next her, but not because she fucked white dudes. Do it because of her high partner count. Race has nothing to do with it.
It's easy to recognize women who are trying to beta bux you. They will withhold sex, when it's obvious she gave it up easy in the past. She will say things like i want a guy who respects me first or some other indicating she was pumped and dumped a lot in the past. A real man immediately drops bitches like this, he isn't afraid that she will trap him or some other bs. He also doesn't react emotionally to it, like the people in this thread are doing. He simply doesn't give her the time of day. Simple.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Expect Westernized Asians to be the same (if not more) entitled as those born in the u.s.
Want a drop-dead beautiful submissive, attentive Asian LTR? Move to Asia.
[–]joeno2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not that I'm complaining I'm not even from America but from what I can see it's really disgusting what is happening to the Asian-American male. With the hollywood portrayals, rampant stereotypes etc.
All the advice here is all real and good. But you guys fail at one key advice: just leave America or whatever Anglo country you're living in. The altruistic people here are telling you to do a) and b) and c) and d) to not be the 'stereotypical' Asian. Why go through all of that fake BS while they themselves can sit back on their sofa, eat their pizza, get laid and live the American dream?
You want to tell white-Americans (or whoever) people your points of "critique" on how they should behave and see how well they take it?
The fact that you have these father-figure Mr Helpful white guys telling you how you should behave like you're a servant in their home should be a sign of how f*cked it is for Asians in the good old US of A.
[–]throwingwater1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The race traitor thing is a silly way to frame the discussion, a better way to put it is some asian women associate asian guys as their BB, safety plan, cash cow, etc. In such cases, I think there needs to be a distinction that your argument needs to make which is between hookups and LTR. I agree with you though if this was in regards to hookups, but if a asian guy was looking for a ltr then this is awful advice. There are a lot of women out there and on the off chance you meet a woman who has some strong framework she's built over the past 15 years of her life of where asian men place in her life. The framework just adds extra hurdles filled with shit tests and stupid work.
From here, you have the option of being a bb, breaking down her notions or next her. Of those three options, next her is the most appealing because you never put a woman on the pedestal and there are plenty of fish in the sea so why go through all the extra hurdles. Putting up with such women almost requires you to put them on a pedestal just to be even with other women because they should be lower on your list due to the emotional baggage they bring already.
But yeah, if a hookup, then the asian guy is doing it all wrong to care in the first place. Pump and dump in of itself doesn't play into her framework so it's all good.
[–]1raceAround1261 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Having had a few Indian women come onto me, in my opinion it seems to me that they very much do so only date white women in their party years. A few, when provoked, will go into detail about how much Asian men turn them off yet when it comes time to slam into that wall and when they want to make Mum and Dad proud, that's when they will find themselves an Asian Doctor or a Lawyer to be the good girl with.
It's no different to how most women act. They want what turns them on in their party years then want a subordinate to provide for them when it comes wall time.
Oh and Asian women do go nuts for the white cock thing! The only thing I've found is they will very much try had to beta bucks you even if you're white. They will never commit to you by in large, but they will try to beta bucks you!
[–]Grimpillmage7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You're getting a lot of shit for this post, and I'm gonna assume it's from White guys.
As a legit Indian living in India, I completely agree with your advice. I see the kind of cringey shit Indian-American betas post here and it's really embarrassing.
Your race is not the fucking issue, betalords. When women in your community (White, Brown, Yellow, Na'Vi, Whatever-the-fuck) listen to your incessant whining about how you have to rush home because mommy and daddy would be mad? That's what becomes a deal breaker. They've got baby brothers and they don't fucking need another.
FWIW, my first non-high school LTR was with a white chick. From Iceland. Lost my virginity to the same person and do you know what all her friends would say? "You are not at all like most Indian guys"
Now, I would like to say that it's because I was a 6"2' Adonis with a 7 inch cock, but the fact is I'm 5"7', and I had more than a fair amount of chub over my muscles at the time.
What I did have going for me, though was that I was assertive without being needlessly contrary and had established to her early on that I am someone who can be responsible and deal with his own crap without constantly whining to mommy and daddy.
Hell, my mother died when I was a kid and dad's 45 years older than me. His health isn't the best right now, and I'm basically monk-moding looking after him. The equation is probably different with American chicks (only ever had one American plate, so I have no clue how they react to this shit), but girls back home? They're all incredibly 'appreciative' about the fact that I'm looking after my dad, my career, all our finances and a big ass house at 23.
There's an old adage about Indian men: "They're stuck on their mom's tits till they're married. Then they're stuck to their wife's tits."
Don't fucking be that guy. Learn to look after yourself beyond lifting 30 kilos at the gym your mommy paid for like a schmuck. Women like men who can take care of things.
And seriously, if I see any of you little shits whining about how being short or brown or bald makes you invisible to women in real life? I will legit smack you upside the fucking head.
/rant
[–]switchme8082 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Aren't we always talking about past sexual behavior influencing future sexual behavior? Aren't we always talking about avoiding the near-wall women trap? Seems this is just the same old topic sprinkled with a little race for controversy.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh FFS that was clearly an example and not the topic of the post at all.
[+]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] -10 points-9 points-8 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Asian women hit the wall later than white women, probably because their diet is better on average. An Asian thirty is a white 25. A women dating outside her race just means that she finds different types of men attractive.
[–]fiat_lux_13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The comments I've read weren't about them dating outside their race. It was about them avoiding their own race until old enough to settle down. It's not racism per se, but it's often taken as evidence of af/bb, which generally repulses rpers in general.
Asian women hit the wall later than white women
Lol not the Asian Americans raised on good old American food.
A women dating outside her race just means that she finds different types of men attractive.
I think that's true only if she has dated Asian as well, particularly in her youth. If she has dated/fucked all other colors of men in her nubile youth, but not Asian men, then she definitely does not find them attractive.
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[–]throw4trp6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
There is no media or racial preferences
Really? None? I'm not even from either group but you're telling me the media doesn't push the shitty stereotypes of Asian & Indian men while promoting white guys that look androgynous as a standard?
[–]R4F13 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There have been countless studies, articles, and debates that has absolutely proved and scrutinized the fact that Hollywood typecasts and stereotypes Asian and Indian male characters, but worse than that, Hollywood refuses to portray East Asian male characters as "sex symbols" in any light whatsoever.
In fact, during Romeo Must Die the kiss scene that was shot between Jet Li and Aaliyah was deleted because "mainstream America, for the most part, gets uncomfortable with seeing an Asian man portrayed in a sexual light."
None of Jackie Chan's Hollywood movies have him in sexual scenes either, but plenty of those involving his sidekick Chris Tucker or Owen Wilson.
[–]sir_wankalot_here0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is not going to be a politically incorrect post but its TRP so who cares. Asian men (south and east) in the USA embody everything that generally turns western women off.
Replace turns western women off and replace with all women. I am richer then one of my Asian friends, and I have more money then him. The guy is older then me, he has a legal wife and god knows how many GF. The guy isn't even that good looking, he is a little chubby. Next to him I do not stand a chance. The guy is amazing.
One time I see him, he has a woman who is a teacher giving him a manicure. Then he has another woman cooking them dinner.
I have met other Asian guys who are good but this guy is in a league of his own.
[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] -4 points-3 points-2 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
As long as Asian American men dont fall into the traps you described they'll be fine. Unfortunately their asian cultural values put them in a disadvantage in our western dating market.
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[–]fiat_lux_0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
There are definitely many confucian cultural values that go against the individualistic, selfish, pragmatic mindset that is critical to rp-like thinking.
A scalar type of meritocracy is one major problem. A lot of Asians are taught to put academics above all other priorities from a young age. It can end up building a sense of entitlement that does not pay off even in academia. Even colleges don't have to. The idea that, "I got perfect grades and a 2200+ SAT score. I deserve to go to Harvard/MIT/Yale/etc" doesn't actually work all the time.
The world isn't "fair".
[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
To be fair Asians get fucked by affirmative action the hardest. And that's some serious bullshit.
[–]fiat_lux_0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well, as I said, the world isn't fair. It's never been fair to me, for more reasons than affirmative action, but the experiences have made me stronger physically and mentally and I grateful for them.
A lot of the "affirmative action" in Asia is worse. E.g. in China they have hard quotas and flat bonuses to target minority groups (regional/ethnic), mainly as a way to get them invested into the society and feel more harmonious... imo, so that they are less likely to revolt/riot.
The affirmative action we have here manifests as "soft quotas". Colleges are pressured, but afaik colleges here don't have "hard quotas" that they need to reach year by year. Iirc, the affirmative action problem affects SouthEast Asian Americans (e.g. filipinos) the worst as they tend to be poorer and come from a very different immigrant demographic than East and South Asians. Partially as a result of that, they aren't doing as stellar academically but are often still held to the same standards as other Asians when it comes to affirmative action.
That being said...
I wouldn't deny that there's legitimate bullshit, but like the implied point you made in your OP, we cannot afford to let these things fuck with our heads (and at worse, turn us into self-loathing victims). Whether you're gay, straight, black, asian, white, brown, man, woman,.. anyone is better for me than working with a self-loathing victim who can't toil through his/her problems. That is exactly how most women feel with regards to dating, and I can't even blame them.
[–]Chinito_ducky4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
As an Asian American male, I agree with all points made here. Race can be blown out of proportion at times, even as an important topic of identity. As someone here said, the only kind of discrimination is between the rich and poor; anything else is a distraction.
[–]sir_wankalot_here-3 points-2 points-1 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't have problems with Asians like you. What I have a problem is when they scream racism. If you don't like western countries leave, we don't owe you anything. The main thing that bothers me is the hypocrisy, most Asians are the most racist and class conscious people I know. They constantly make racist comments about other Asians, white and blacks.
IDK if I am racist or not. Usually when I meet an Asian I assume he is like what I described above until he proves differently. He then gets my respect.
The only thing I have in my mind while reading these asian posts is Glen and Maggy from the Walking dead...
It's the only frame of reference I have, and I find it hilarious for some reason.
Let's say an Asian girl only dated white dudes.
Am I the only one who feels this is racist? Any sort of racial preferences in dating is racist. If an Asian girl decides to EXCLUDE Asian men from dating, that exactly is racism. The same can be applied to any race.
[–]TheDukeofHavoc -1 points-1 points-1 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Haha you're the same motherfucker I just replied to in that other thread just now. Thing is, you're absolutely right and I agree with you here...
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