Something needs to change about these unrealistic body standards put on men

[deleted] · 2016-09-27T00:51:52+00:00

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anitapk · 2016-09-27T07:18:16+00:00

You know that feminism is wrong because only tall ripped guys are considered attractive?

Body acceptance works because it sells a product. It sells food, diets, slimming products and clothes.

You should get angry at the handsome men who bone ugly women.

bgrycloud · 2016-09-27T07:22:03+00:00

What does feminism have to do with any of this?

No kevin harts, no peter dinklages, no Seth rogens, no Aziz ansaris, none of that. Why are all the sexiest men alive cover dudes all buff, tall white guys?

Daniel Radcliffe, Bruno Mars, Tom Cruise, Sisqo, Elijah Wood, Kendrick Lamar, all the Jonas brothers, etc etc.

For a women to be attractive, all she has to do is have a healthy body.

Haha, what bullshit.

Here's what "healthy body" really means:

No being fat, have to be toned, not have stretch marks or cellulite which is incredibly rare for even the most fit women, must have a favorable body shape which is outside of one's control, slim with at least medium breasts, which again is a fairly rare combo

Not to mention the greater importance that is placed on a woman's facial appearance compared to a man's. Aside from facial aesthetics and symmetry, women are expected to carry on a youthful glow and smooth skin into their 40's whereas male facial signs of aging is seen as rugged.

If a healthy body was all that was necessary then you'd all be lusting after Kesha.

Overall I agree with your point, but I do also want to point out the biggest perpetrators of male heightism and the "manlet" thing are fellow RP-ers like yourself...I've literally never heard such disdain for short men outside of this manosphere.

And secondly if you truly want to sit there and claim men have it worse when it comes to being judged on appearance, that's laughable. The extent to which men are criticized for their appearance is a problem, but not remotely to the level of women and to claim that women only have to have a "healthy weight" is being so disingenuous that the rest of your post isn't even worthwhile to address.

super-commenting · 2016-09-27T00:46:33+00:00

For a women to be attractive, all she has to do is have a healthy body.

Not if she has an ugly face.

[deleted] · 2016-09-27T00:33:34+00:00

I think most feminists would agree that all body types should be represented in media, for both women and men. I don't know what feminists you've been talking to, but you're arguing against views that aren't representative of feminism.

Personally, I have no problem with more body diversity. If fewer women are into tall men because of social pressures, then that means less competition and more giants for me! :)

GridReXX · 2016-09-27T00:40:26+00:00

Kevin Hart didnt let his height stop him from achieving some sexy ass body goals: https://instagram.com/p/BKG8N0vBoFR/

Him and his wife: https://instagram.com/p/BJZID6ZhqY5/

Don't speak for Kevin!

COPCO2 · 2016-09-27T00:05:22+00:00

You're not alone in this belief.
Feminism isn't the cause.
TRP isn't the only alternative.

https://youtu.be/hc45-ptHMxo

Not to mention that the stereotype you hate is exactly what TRP is telling you to be. So, which group is pressuring you again?

ahahaucantbesrs · 2016-09-27T00:15:16+00:00

Life isn't fair dude.

If the game was rigged in your favor you wouldn't be out fucking fat girls/telling amazonians how cute they are.

Gym time always > writing rant on reddit time.

TheChemist158 · 2016-09-27T00:16:50+00:00

You severely underestimate the beauty standards women face.
You don't understand the typical feminist views on beauty standards
You severely overestimate the beauty standards of men. A /b/ grade comic really doesn't mean much.
This seems to be more of a rant about your misunderstanding of feminist viewd.
I honestly don't care about the pressure men face to look good. If they can't handle the pressure, they are failing to adult right.

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[deleted] · 2016-09-27T10:25:35+00:00

I'm really confused as to why you feel that unrealistic body standards placed on men are feminism's fault. Personally, I've experienced the greatest degree of body acceptance and praise for my unusual body from feminist women.

Sandralees · 2016-09-27T11:53:49+00:00

What is being humored is not the fact that those guys are short, it is the fact that they are trying to pretend they aren't.

Take for instance the French president Nicolas Sarkozy (top right on the picture), he was always ridiculed for his height but only because he himself could not stand to be short. The latest French president François Hollande is the same height but noone cares or jokes about it because Hollande himself doesn't care that he is short.

Oh and this has nothing to do with feminism.

chasethenoise · 2016-09-27T15:25:28+00:00

Lol "the only thing that matters in life is being tall." This is obvious troll material. If you fall for something like this you deserve to suffer.

Reed_4983 · 2016-09-28T16:44:22+00:00

That 4chan diagram you've posted is terrible. Complete toxic bullshit. I see this so often from spheres like 4chan, Sluthate, incel forums, all these places. Stuff like this can be extremely hurtful to men. It's all negative content with the message of "The world is terrible and unfair, there is nothing you can do, let me explain why there is no hope for you with theories I claim are the truth", all directed to men. I wonder who creates this and why? Are they so hopeless themselves, that they believe they need to inflict their mindset to every other man? Do they actually believe they spread the truth? And ironically, they say women are cruel, while they themselves advise men with certain attributes to commit suicide.

[deleted] · 2016-10-03T00:52:18+00:00

The whole culture of what is attractive needs to change. People come in different heights, sizes, skin tones and that's what is great. Not everyone wants the same thing, the people who do fall for what's trendy in the "look" usually don't have much to offer outside of appearance. Plus muscles look great in photographs but are terrible for cuddling.

wynterpetals · 2016-09-27T05:19:25+00:00

Looks to me you boys hate being treated like women. ;)

[deleted] · 2016-09-27T00:48:56+00:00

You realize that all of the sexiest men alive dudes have all been tall white guys

LMFAO

[deleted] · 2016-09-27T01:01:05+00:00

I've seen this type of diagram a lot. Especially on the bodybuilding forums. To me, it's bullshit. You shouldn't kill yourself if you're under 6 foot, and you aren't a "manlet" unless you fall below average height, if that. I know I just did a post like this but this shit needs to stop. This is not progressive. This is not reality. And these types of messages are KILLING young men who believe it.

maybe you should stop frequenting those places. or if you feel like someone's taking it really badly, reach out to them. posting here certainly isn't going to fix anything.

Something needs to change. Maybe feminism should take a look at the unrealistic body standards for men.

er, everyone has unrealistic body standards, and i've seen women and men alike talk about how ridiculous they are. again, expand where you hang out online before saying things like this.

For a women to be attractive, all she has to do is have a healthy body. If that! You realize there's loads of different types of women guys like? There is targeted porn for guys who like chubby girls, really tall girls, really short girls, etc.

having a healthy body takes work, for anyone. i don't doubt there's also targeted porn for women, too. i didn't really peruse the DVDs too often when i worked at an XXX video store but i know enough to say that people like a lot of different things you might not expect.

But the standard for men is this: Be tall. Have a six pack, have a muscular build. Have good facial features. Have money. Have status.

the only time i see this mentioned as the standard for men is at TRP. even when people disagree with TRPers and point out how that's not reality, you all cling to it super hard. this is your problem.

You realize how HARD it is to even be lucky enough to be really tall?

did you even read the responses to your last thread? haha. no one really cares that much. it's okay.

Sorry feminists, check mate. You still want the tall buff white guys.

so not my type.

But you want us to be attracted to ugly women.

no one would want this for men, or the women who would be with them. it's a bad situation all around.

Well...why can't you be attracted to ugly men?

hey, according to some people here, i am. but no, no one is obligated to be attracted to anyone else. i think we can all agree on that.

What am I doing to change the standards put onto men? Nothing. Absolutely fucking nothing. Peoples magazine still makes millions and I'm eating it all up.

[deleted] · 2016-09-27T16:00:00+00:00

I'm missing how any of this has anything to do with Feminism or blue pill.

I don't know, you're jealous that Feminism did all the work for a body positive movement and now you want one too? Or you want Feminism to come over and make you feel better about yourself, hold your hand and pat your bottom?

This post is ridiculous.

DevilishRogue · 2016-09-27T12:52:11+00:00

It's stuff like this that got me interested in r/short. The irony is that it is the height (no pun intended) of overcompensatory behavior to need to put down others. There isn't a clearer example of faux-alpha action than needing to one-up others (particularly over a non-changable characteristic like race or height). Anyone that uses the term Napoleon Complex with anything approaching sincerity is telling you more about them and their own inadequacies than the person or people they are referencing.

That aside, women have always been the selective sex. Briffault's Law dictates that and we all know it's true whether Blue Pill or Red Pill. Feminism (with perhaps a handful of exceptions) isn't even aware that one of the things it tries to do is to shore up the sexual inequality women are able to laud over men. Their very own Elridge Cleaver attitude towards tall guys.

But TRP recognises that this is amoral. And getting your panties in a twist over it is pointless. Let women pursue their mating strategies as they wish and let guys do the same.

rulenumber303 · 2016-09-27T23:08:09+00:00

"I've seen this type of diagram a lot. Especially on the bodybuilding forums."

Then go complain about it there, if you've the balls.

[deleted] · 2016-09-27T01:01:04+00:00

Cry sum more.

[deleted] · 2016-09-27T10:51:36+00:00

What if that infographic is actually right?

Title	Something needs to change about these unrealistic body standards put on men
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Date	September 26, 2016 11:41 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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