Q4W: How, and how often, do men "approach" you in public places?

On this thread there was a good bit of discussion on male approaches of women in public spaces other than bars, clubs, and other places where men and women traditionally meet. "Approach" in the title is such because there was a wide variety of interaction described. There was a lot of discussion on everything from getting "hit on", to men making crude comments about female anatomy, to groping, to propositioning, to "number closing", to men running common day game pickup.

Users at the other thread suggested this happened sometimes, with most of it being clearly sexual and offensive or intrusive to some degree. One user suggested this is even occurring in the workplace, with customers of businesses making crude anatomical comments and lewd statements about "enjoying the view" referring to an attractive woman.

I'll make this a discussion, though I'll also put my view here and ask for challenges.

1. How often does this actually happen? How often do men you 've never seen before come up to you while shopping or in some other public place and:

--say hello or other superficial pleasantries to you

--chat you up

--make comments about your body/clothing/appearance

--try to get your number/set up a date

--touch your body in any way (crowded subways do not count, too much ambiguity)

--proposition you for sex

2. Where do these incidents happen?

3. Who are you with when these incidents happen?

4. What region of the US are you from? Do you live in a rural, urban or suburban area? If you're not from the US, what country are you from?

My view, for challenge, is this: What I hear from women, including many women on this subreddit, and red pill women, is that they receive unwanted sexual attention literally every minute they are outside their homes. They are constantly being talked to, hit on, chatted up, propositioned, assaulted and groped. According to women, this is unrelenting, constant, pervasive, and widespread. Every woman in the entire world is under a constant barrage of unwanted male sexual attention.

I think that's bullshit. I think what actually happens is that every so often, an unattractive guy they don't know asks for their number after chatting them up. Or an unattractive guy they DO know chats them up at the grocery store too long and monopolizes her time. Or, an unattractive man looks at her a little too long or smiles at her, or says "hi".

Very, very rarely, some guy gets too close, or touches her arm, or tries running some crudely executed day game pickup. But those last incidents are few and far between.

I do not for one minute believe that businesses are rampant with boorish, unrefined asshole customers commenting openly and brutishly on the physical appearances of the women who work there. If this does happen, it is EXTREMELY rare and it is addressed by senior management with customers. (There are now state and federal statutes and regulations addressing this very problem. Most businesses have a duty to confront a client/customer who sexually harasses an employee of a company that client does business with/interfaces with.)

If this really were happening as frequently as some women claim, it would be viewed as a pressing law enforcement problem. Statutes would be passed and enforced hard. And women would complain about it to their husbands, boyfriends and fathers.

I also believe that whether the advance is welcome or not depends wholly on the attractiveness of the man. If he is attractive, none of the above matters. He can get away with much of what he says or does. If he is unattractive, it gets chalked up to one more episode of the unrelenting bombardment of "unwanted" sexual attention. We don't hear objections about what attractive men do. Women say they would object to untimely or inconvenient advances by attractive men. My experience is that if she finds you attractive, she's got time to talk to you and interact with you. If she doesn't find you attractive, you're an annoyance at best, a criminal at worst.

In short, I don't see this as anything like the problem it's commonly portrayed as by most women, including women who post here. I don't believe women are accosted, assaulted and propositioned to anything like the degree that women claim.

Q for Women.