As /u/hyperrreal posted last week, the mod team will be trialing new rules for the sub, based upon feedback given by our users. They are essentially the same as our current rules, with some clarifications and further explanations to make the rules easier to understand. Once the one week trial run is over, we will solicit feedback from you, our users, to see what your thoughts are.

/r/Purplepilldebate only allows self (text) posts. Any links to outside sources must be as part of a text post.

Basic components for a post

  1. Outlines the issue well
  2. Is framed in a neutral way [Exception for CMV Posts]
  3. Asks a specific question
  4. Proposes a starting point for discussion
  5. Contains an accurate title

A good post requires that you be a good steward of the thread. Explain anything that people don't get or is vague. Reply to comments in a manner that furthers the discussion. Modify the post if there's good evidence to add.

Approval process

If a post does not conform to the guidelines, it may be removed or a moderator will comment suggesting ways to bring it into compliance. Please note that the moderators want your post to succeed and will do everything we can to make sure it gets approved, but submitters need to work with us to bring the text in line with the rules. A post that does not fit within the rules will be removed when the moderators find the violation, but submitters will have the option to address the issues with their post. If the issues are resolved, the moderators will reapprove the post.

If a submitter has not responded to a moderator's request to modify the post within three hours, the post will be permanently removed.

Interactions with the moderator(s) will be removed prior to a post being approved unless the submitter requests they remain public.

Posts that will get removed

  • Inflammatory. "The Red Pill is stupid!"

  • Editorializing. "Feminist proposes the most idiotic idea to address social reform."

  • Low effort. Posts that provide no background information, demonstrate a lack of understanding of the issue, or make it clear the submitter has failed to do even the most rudimentary web search on the topic. This includes questions which appear to be circlejerking.

  • Leading Questions. Posts that ask a specific group why they think/do X when it has not been established that said group believes X. Examples include: “If redpillers are all rapists, why are they so concerned with self-improvement?” and “If bluepillers are SJW feminazis, why don't they think all PIV sex is rape?” This includes lesser leading questions, such as “Why do X believe Y?”

  • Overly broad. Extremely broad posts don't usually generate useful discussion. However, if properly framed, they can occasionally be useful from an educational standpoint, so they won't automatically be removed. For example, a post without references that simply requests, "Please explain the concept of SMV," doesn't sufficiently outline the issue

  • One-sided posts. Presentations that lay out a case for one side of an issue without presenting countering views. If you wish to present a CMV question, please be aware that CMVs are moderated more harshly. In addition, if it becomes apparent to the mods that the post was intended to attack/criticize the opposing view, it will be removed.

  • Critique my theory. "I have x idea. What do you think?"

  • Bad starting point for discussion. Any post that's unlikely to generate useful, civil discourse. This is the overarching theme of this subreddit and the most common reason that articles get removed.

  • Race Baiting. These posts include language that uses racially derisive language or other forms of communication in order to troll or anger other users. It can be arguing that X ethnicity has it worse than others or it may be touting the superiority of one ethnicity.

  • Link Dropping. Posts which have simply a link to another source will be removed. Posts with a link must provide sufficient information and a summary from the source that users can understand the perspective of the OP without extensive reading.

  • Rants. Posts which appear to be simply an expression of an individual’s views, or why the views held by another individual/group of individuals are wrong will be removed. This includes posts with a neutral title but the text of the post being a rant.

  • Excessive Posting. If you are posting multiple threads a day, you are probably not participating in the conversations you posted, which defeats the purpose. Please wait between posts.

  • Low/No Karma Users. If you have negative karma, your post will be removed. If you are a new user, your post will be removed by moderator discretion.

  • Witch-Hunting posts. Do not create posts about specific users, or the beliefs of specific users.

  • Internal questions. Do not ask questions that are better suited for TRP or TBP. PurplePillDebate is not for red pillers to talk to each other in front of blue pill or vice versa.

Surplus/Peripheral Content

The following content is considered non-germane to PPD, and can be removed at the mod team’s discretion:

  • Dark enlightenment topics such as Race realism, no voice free exit, etc.
  • Any racially charged content, even if not technically race-baiting.
  • Topics related to Gamergate/anti-gamergate.
  • "Woe is me” posts, particularly if they are racially charged.
  • Topics that have been beaten to death recently.

CMV Posts

“Challenge My View” posts are moderated more heavily in order to ensure quality content. They are an exception to the neutral title rule, in that they must make an assertion. Below are the guidelines required for a successful CMV post:

  1. You must personally hold the belief.
  2. You must be open to having your view challenged. This means that you must act in a way that demonstrates that you are willing to have your view challenged. Moderators do not have access to your internal mental state, but we can infer your intent from your posts and comments. An unwillingness to have your view challenged may have one or several of the following:
  • Asking few or no genuine questions;
  • Seeming more interested in arguing or convincing others than understanding opposing views;
  • Ignoring the main point of a comment, especially to point out some minor inconsistency;
  • Refusing to make concessions that an alternate view has merit;
  • Focusing only on the weaker arguments;
  • Explicit statements of an intent to change the other posters’ minds; or
  • Only having discussions with users who agree with your position.

You must be available to engage other posters within three hours after posting. Three hours is enough time for several users to begin challenging your view, and without the OP, there is no real discussion. If you do not actively engage users in three hours, your post will be removed.

Comments

Quality discussion in the comments on /r/PurplePillDebate is the core goal for this sub. The basic rules for commenting are:

  1. Be civil. Please do not demean others or flame.
  2. State your opinion honestly and freely, but respect that your view may not align with that of other users.
  3. Be open-minded to others. A vital component of useful commentary is to always assume good faith of the other user.

What we mean by civil in PurplePillDebate:

Civil: (definition) Polite but not friendly : only as polite as a person needs to be in order to not be rude.

Polite: (definition) Showing or characterized by correct social usage : marked by an appearance of consideration, tact, deference, or courtesy.

Combined working definition: Showing adequate consideration, tact, or courtesy.

When we consider whether or not a comment is civil, we consider whether or not it's level of consideration, tact, and courtesy is appropriate for this sub.

The following characteristics will also get a comment removed:

  • Name-calling. If you can't counter someone's argument without calling names, find another place to argue.
  • Pure sarcasm. Say what you mean and don't talk down to people. A sarcastic comment in an otherwise good post likely will not be removed.
  • Off-topic. Try to stay focused.
  • Memes, gifs, "upvote," etc. If a comment does not add to the narrative, it will be removed. These are permissible under the Automoderator message.
  • No hearsay. You can't call someone a misogynist unless you cite a quote where he calls himself a misogynist.
  • Circlejerking. “Circle Jerk” is a pejorative slang term referring to a positive feedback loop which occurs when an idea, belief or meme that is already customary within an online community becomes re-iterated and rewarded in a perpetual cycle, giving rise to redundancy, clichés and karma whoring. A circlejerk on reddit commonly takes the form of a sequence of low-effort replies using sarcasm to affirm a belief and "cash in" on karma for agreeing with the prevailing opinion. This includes posts which imply that an opposing poster or group of posters hold a specific belief, such as “BPers believe that women don’t have agency” or “RPers all believe that women are scum.”
  • The primary litmus test the mods use to determine if content is circle jerking is Does this offer something beyond rhetoric?
  • Edge-Lording/Trolling: Comments which attempt to provoke other users by being “edgy”. A troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion, often for their own amusement.
  • CMV Posts: Please be aware that CMV posts are more heavily moderated. Top level comments (responding directly to the post) MUST be a challenge to the original poster’s view. If you agree with the position, do not post a top level comment.
  • “Question For” Posts: Top level comments must be of the appropriate group solicited. For example, a question directed towards men may not have top level comments from women.
  • Invalidating. Do not tell another user directly that the opinion expressed by them is incorrect. If a guy says, “I like a woman who can cook and clean” do not respond by saying, “No, you want a live-in servant.”
  • Buzzwords: Posts that state that X position is “degenerate” or that reference “cuck” are impermissible. We are not /r/The_Donald. Further “feefees” or “triggered” are not appropriate.

AutoModerator Comment

Comments which would be otherwise inappropriate in response to a user are permissible in response to the AutoModerator comment. However, do NOT UPVOTE the Automod comment. If the moderators see that the AutoModerator comment has been upvoted, the moderators will remove the AutoModerator comment and all child comments.


S/HE STARTED IT IS NOT AN EXCUSE TO VIOLATE THE RULES. If someone is being rude/hostile to you, report the comment. Retaliatory comments - being rude/hostile to another user because they were rude/hostile to you first - will be removed and the violating user will receive a warning. No exceptions.

We enforce the spirit of these rules, not the letter

Especially in regards to personal attacks and trolling, one can be nasty and hostile without technically breaking PPD’s rules. Mods have discretion to determine what is a personal attack, and where the boundaries lie for all posts and comments.


Moderation

Be prepared for the possibility that your post or comment will be removed. Whenever possible, mods will attempt to explain their decision to OP. If you believe that your post/comment should not have been approved, please message the moderators. We will not discuss the removal of your post/comment in the thread, as it will derail the discussion.

Your post or comment will NOT be removed because a mod disagrees with you or wants to censor opinion. If that's what you think has happened, it is suggested that you first examine your own neutrality on the issue at hand, and if you find it's adequate, send modmail explaining why you don't think your contribution should have been deleted.