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No matter how much she wants you to "open up", she WILL use your sensitivities against you.

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It's like riding a motorcycle. You're not wearing gear for IF you go down, but for for WHEN. It might not be exactly this moment, but it's coming regardless. Women will always try to feminize even the most macho of men to see how much they can bend them, but the second he bends to her will she loses respect for him and loses attraction. Even if it's "her idea" for you to make yourself vulnerable, she will hold it against you. Deep down, even the most redpilled men half a purple-tainted heart and want to be loved for who they really are inside, so sadly even the most vigilant man can be caught off guard. I've done it and bet you have too, where you unicorn at least one woman, and you can't help but let down those walls. No matter how amazing you think she is, she's still a woman.

We've had bad things happen to us. Maybe we were raped, molested, assaulted, etc, and we feel safe confide in our significant other. Feeling safe is different from being safe. Inside, she's turned off by this happening to you. She knows it's not your fault, but she can't help but lose fondness for you. She longs for a man who shows his emotions/feelings to her but wants to toss him out when he does. You are damned if you do and damned if you don't.

It's not your fault, but never let her know about it.


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Title No matter how much she wants you to "open up", she WILL use your sensitivities against you.
Author BladeRunner2098
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Date 03 October 2020 06:51 PM UTC (5 months ago)
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[–]universalmonologist224 points225 points  (11 children) | Copy

I think that most men who have traumatic experiences etc. benefit greatly from talking about them. It’s only that the person should be your parent, sibling, closest friend or a therapist. I often find myself wanting to talk about things that could hurt my reputation to people I don’t know that well. People talk, even though they might not be malevolent they can for example get drunk and accidentally share sensitive information with others. That’s why you should be very careful about your words and remember who you’re talking with.

[–]HangTheGods67 points68 points  (4 children) | Copy

I'd go one further & say that if therapy is an option, this should be your only outlet. In general, nobody - male, female, family or not - wants to hear about it. Most people feel that giving you an inch to open up means setting a precedent for you to become a permanent emotional burden - basically giving them a weight of baggage that they don't want, especially as they'll have plenty of their own that they can't/won't share. It's not just women who will lose respect, roll their eyes and tell you to stop being a whiner & man up.

[–]RedKingRising9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed. Only therapy. Guard your reputation with your life, even within your own family.

[–]EdwardHoverhands2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

I wouldn't even recommend therapy! I've been to a therapist (female) when I was a teenager, and more often than not, I walked out of her session feeling obnoxiously violated. Like a Chihuahua that just got penetrated by a Saint Bernard. Yeah, like that visual you just had, but emotionally. Stupid me was afraid to tell her to fuck off. I get that therapy isn't easy, but at one point, you hit a line where something doesn't feel right.

It started when she told me to open up to her about personal traumas and my feelings about them. Fair enough; asked and answered. After all, it was therapy. Well, she later poked at my buttons using the information I gave her, to dredge up intense emotions, and called it "being helpful". So several months later, I was worse off than I started. I was able to get out of that therapy by lying to my parents that she always hugged me, which made me uncomfortable and I was afraid to refuse. They bought it, and terminated therapy, but didn't report her.

I'd say find means other than therapy: lift, run, journal, meditate, do model railroads, whatever floats your boat. Or get meds for anxiety and what-have-you; ain't no shame in that. But if you must do therapy, stick with male therapists only. First off, a man will easily understand your predicament, while a woman will not; it's like describing a dull pain right where your balls meet your crotch, and see who understands it better. Second, men are less emotions-focused, which means the therapist will focus more of fixing what ails you, rather than making you talk about your feelings ad nauseam.

[–]HangTheGods1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Sounds like you had a bad one, and to be fair I do believe there are more bad ones than good, and that's on top of trying to find a good one that's personally a good fit for you. However if you have the luxury of being able to shop around for therapists and are able to simply stop and leave when they're no good, then finding a decent one is better than going it alone. For most men with masculinity issues, it would work best to find a male one, but purely from my own experience, the two best ones I ever had were female. So it's a significant time & financial investment, but it is possible to find the right one.

Basically - to deal with your past get a good therapist, regardless of gender. To deal with your present & future, get a good male coach.

[–]EdwardHoverhands0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Basically - to deal with your past get a good therapist, regardless of gender. To deal with your present & future, get a good male coach.

Meh. My belief always was "sometimes it's best to let the sleeping dogs lie", and still is today. It's something me and my therapist butted heads about every session. She wanted me to feel the traumatic emotions all over again, full strength, to "process" them. It's a school of thought (like our own Red Pill), but it's become controversial and got partially discredited in the last 15 years.

In retrospect, I'd have benefited from a Big Brothers program more than therapy. That's where a young adult man mentors someone on life and what-have-you, while doing fun activities. Although a Big Brother is trained a certain way (read: Blue Pilled), and has to follow a protocol, he'd have taught me a whole lot more than a therapist ever could. But I think Big Brother/Big Sisters is only for kids, not teens.

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[–]pussymail20 points21 points  (2 children) | Copy

Even men will use it against you, especially if their jealous of you, can’t trust no one these days

[–]IntelligenceLtd9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

lot of inadequate little bitch men out there

[–]Groundbreaking-Owl943 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

If loneliness is your enemy, you will be defeated. You have to make a friend out of loneliness. Being alone is better than bad company.

Watch this video - Mario explains loneliness https://youtu.be/ogk_IjckwiY

[–]submit3r155 points156 points  (4 children) | Copy

Always be “business professional” around women.

[–]Lurkinghereandthere24 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

I only talk to unknown women at workplace, that too when it's needed to do so. i.e. Business reason. Usually try to be emotionless stoic.

Many times I catch women staring at me during meetings, even randomly if their workstation is nearby. I just jokingly point out to focus on the screen. I figured this is best response to end unwanted advances playfully.

I am Muslim and an orthodox conservative one. Don't approve dating, never have. I will talk to a woman only if she is related to me by blood, or if she is my future fiance/wife or if I have to speak with her to perform my duties at work. Plain and simple.

[–]submit3r2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Seeing more and more brothers on this Reddit’s. That’s good keep your gaze low.

[–]obey_kush1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I am from a deeply catholic country with barely any Muslims here, personally, I've never seen one.

And your response has me wondering, how is your social life then?

[–]Lurkinghereandthere23 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Competitive sports, religious training, community organized meet-up, volunteering for community and for mosque for social and religious purposes. Not to forget daily 5 times and Friday prayers. Only with bros. We don't socialize with women and vice versa.

[–]1Obediah_Stane156 points157 points  (13 children) | Copy

Never talk to women about your problems. Talk to your bros.

[–]pussymail52 points53 points  (6 children) | Copy

Nah some bro’s would even use that info against you, don’t tell no one your problems or if you have to, hire a male therapist

[–]1empatheticapathetic10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

Then they're not your bros, they're acquaintances. It's up to you to determine who can be trusted or not and what information is worth telling them.

[–]pussymail5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Truth is no one is really your friend, we’re all alone. Majority are acquaintances, it’s hard to find real friends.

[–]1TRPKiddo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is a cold hard fact and the individuals who have not realized this have not had their greatest fall yet, IMO.

[–]maherrera10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Dam best comment I’ve heard all year. I’d give you a gold if I had a chance

[–]MushrooMilkShake-3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy

While you're jackin each other off in the shower after the big sportsketball game. Saturdays are for the boys! Natti Lite and manly ballsweat, hell yeah, red pill!

[–]i-reddit-ck7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

This comment flew over some ppl 😂

[–]Jay-G104 points105 points  (13 children) | Copy

She doesn’t love the true you, she loves the idea of you. Dealing with women is all about selling yourself. That’s why trp makes so many analogies towards transactions “selling yourself” “sexual market place” “sexual market value”. Just like a car salesman points out all the great things about a new; 0-60 in 3.5 seconds, 26 mpg, etc they don’t mention the maintenance of the vehicle until after you’ve signed on the line; don’t forget about changing the oil every 3-5k miles, it’s fast but it eats tires, etc. As men it’s our job to keep the idea of what women love about us. Women want to be with a big strong, stoic, and successful man. They don’t want to know about all the countless hours in the gym sweating and panting, or the overtime hours spent at the office working towards a promotion. They’re children, they want the good and forget the bad. Market yourself accordingly.

[–]TurdFerguson81271 points72 points  (12 children) | Copy

“Women aren’t interested in the race. They just hang out at the finish line and fuck the winners.”

[–]pornodio1 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy

Why isn’t Mark Zuckerberg regarded as a sex symbol then

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[–]pornodio5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

On paper he’s a winner tho, his reputation sucks due to bad body language and no charisma

[–]nofappist5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

He would be if he put some effort into his body and style.

[–]suarezatemyhomework4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

He isn't. But he has access to so much 10/10 women that he wouldn't have time to bang them in a million lifetimes. If you operate by "redpill values", it shouldn't matter if he gets them through money or manipulation. Truly, the 10/10's don't authentically want to sleep with HIM. The 10's would do it for ulterior motives. So he never gets desired for who he really is - just like the redpill "alpha" who hides his real self, because it is "repulsive" to women. This leaves the redpill "alpha" forever deeply unfulfilled by his retarded conquests.

[–]pornodio1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

He has access to escorts maybe, because all women who like their reputation are disgusted by him. He simply has a bad reputation in the sense that he’s extremely uncool, he’s like jafar from aladdin

[–]suarezatemyhomework-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Heres a funny parable for you: Churchill reportedly says to a woman at a party, “Madam, would you sleep with me for 5 million pounds?” The woman stammers: “My goodness, Mr. Churchill. Well, yes, I suppose …” Churchill interrupts: “Would you sleep with me for five pounds?” The woman responds immediately: “What? Of course not! What kind of woman do you think I am?!” Churchill replies: “Madam, we’ve already established that. Now we are haggling about the price.”

Moral of the story: All women are escorts, you have to just give them the right price. For example if Zuck leveraged his money and power to give the women better reputation(say a movie role or whatever they desire), they would all jump on his dick ASAP.

[–]ToraChan2326 points27 points  (0 children) | Copy

“Open up” = “Give me something I can use to quiet my insecurities and use against you”

[–]-ThePathIsTheGoal-17 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy

I wholeheartedly agree that men should not talk about their problems to women. It’s not needed, it’s not necessary, it doesn’t help nor add anything positive. It can indeed make her lose respect for you, BUT

That’s only if you care. And here is where I believe you must go beyond just the standard “don’t open to women whatsoever” advice.

You can do whatever you want if you don’t care. Open up, stay stoic, either way, the women will still subconsciously be aware of your no fucks given attitude about whether she stays or goes. If you do indeed genuinely possess this indifference and very rare state of abundance, she will suck you at any moments notice. She ain’t going anywhere. This is the ultimate paradox when it comes to women.

That being said, women don’t want to solve your problems, hire a therapist with testicles.

[–]bpdeffedones3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Was looking for a comment like this. Truth. I have opened up. But I have also been prepared to walk away and leave her at any given time. She knows I don’t beg or will care. In fact. Me opening is up was because I didn’t care. That is different. But clearly you have to watch what you say and can’t just say super weak things.

[–]kalisto301052 points53 points  (5 children) | Copy

This 100% - especially for the younger Red-Pillers. Picture the actions of your Woman trying to break you down and get you to "open-up" as a game and by you capitulating is analogous to losing the Boss Battle at the final level. Her tear ridden plea's are not genuine - no matter how much she cries, pleads, and begs you to do so it's just a game to her; And there you are, thinking that you're doing the right thing by capitulating then decide to "open-up" and demonstrate a modicum of sensitivity to appease her; Almost immediately after her attitude will change, her pussy will dry up that's because you failed Her test. A Woman isn't happy unless she's utterly miserable. She will find you boring unless she's chasing something, and what she's chasing is a stoic, grounded unmovable Man who doesn't elicit feminine emotions that coincides with "opening-up". If you want to divulge those emotions - that's what your Mother or Sisters are for not your Lovers.

[–]sekoeriti4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Your view of women scares me.. You can open up while still being a fucking beast. Just always stay happy with yourself, the women part is just an extra..

[–]Sake9910 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

Even not mothers or sisters, any woman is not in a loving capacity ever..

[–]LilSick2430 points31 points  (0 children) | Copy

Never reveal what’s behind the curtain

[–]LotBuilder22 points23 points  (1 child) | Copy

100% true and they will talk to the next guy about your weakest moments. Girls do that shit all the time with me as some sort of excuse to be cheating on him or dumping him. They try to tear them down to justify their actions. Tell them very little and show no weakness. Maybe have a tender moment over a pet or a niece or nephew so they don’t think you are a sociopath but never any real pain.

[–]IntelligenceLtd2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

theres a lot of extreme (but nethertheless not wholly innacurate) replies on here but that first sentence, god Ive lost count of how many times ive seen that.

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[–]hiktaka4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

This. Basically AWALT is true but one or two aspects of female are just true NAWALT exceptions. For me, example, cooking is most prominent thing women do that applies to NAWALT. Do you agree with me?

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[–]1BlondeHornyElf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

ya i've seen it myself.. girls without fathers just go full sociopath or something. without daddy holding them accountable, and without society holding them accountable, why should honestly care about anyone?

[–]bigbentower10 points11 points  (14 children) | Copy

Someone please tell me women aren't actually like this.....This post honestly made me loose all hope in trying to look for a partner, like what's the point? How can u trust, and love a lady if who you know that she'd lose all the love and respect she had for u if u slip up, and then onto the next guy! I completely understand that showing weak emotions is a bad thing for both sides, it is understandbly a turnoff. like don't cry and whine for small things. But it's not fair that women are allowed to show human emotions when necessary when we cant.

I am a guy and turning 20 soon, all my life all I've wanted to do was to love someone and recieve the same; pure love, loving me for who I am, not for what I'm doing or what wealth I'll have . I always wanted to know what it felt like, ever since I was 10 I've had a distant relationship with my family due to being the only boy and a harsh upbringing with way too many expectations, I don't even know what affection is, idk what love feels like. With what OP mentioned, I don't think I could ever love someone because I can never truly love someone if I can't be myself and that they'd turn their back on me if I ever experienced human emotions. I just feel like I would be used in a relationship, like just be the man, provide, make money and treat her well and make sure she's always happy without anyone caring how I feel

I've always wanted a family; one that I've never had. I want to experience what family life is like. I want to be happy with her and her to be genuinely happy with me. I want her to understand that we too can have bad and traumatic upbringings, and that sometimes we want to let it out. I completely understand the "being someone's emotional dumpster" idea. But that should go both ways, no one wants to deal with another person's emotion to the full extent, yea I'll be there to comfort and help, but no one really wants it. You do it out of love, and if she can't do that, does she really love me?

Sorry for the long reply, but if someone out there can tell me what I'm thinking is wrong and that it won't be as bad as I think, and possibly what it's actually like? Cause if so, I see why many men commit suicide, they don't have an outlet, they feel like they are being used and only loved under certain conditions.

[–]michael1962-014 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just accept reality.

Upgrade game.

[–]jibraiel1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Well, first of all, you’re 20, I’m 23, not much difference but I can tell you that I want completely different things now compared to when I was 20. So you wanna have your own family and do better than your parents, just because you lacked affection. You only wish that because you want to fill that gap, not necessarily because that’s everything you want out of your life. Life could be so much more than that. You could actually rationally choose. You’re angry, u only what that sensation filled. But it’s a sensation, it’ll pass. About women: somebody said around here, they love strong, rational, successful, dominant men. This kind of men won’t spend their time whining, being insecure and endlessly thinking what they should do. This kind of men are very much capable of being single, wouldn’t see a problem in that, they don’t need anybody else, they are self sufficient, confident, they command respect. Do you think men like that would say “I’ve been a little down today... I don’t know why... i think it’s because my family wasn’t too affective with me 10 years ago and they didn’t [sth, dunno]... i’ll make a boy so I can make him a stupid beta with my insecurities”, bro fk that shit! Who dafuq do you think cares about that? Be an action taker, do things don’t think them, just do them, be a man, take what you want, not ask, work your ass off to be better every day, compete with yourself, conquer your fears, do things u never thought u would do, be strong willed, be disciplined, work your confidence, fk women, they’ll tag along anyway, be it one, be it a thousand. Think what you would want to be, visualize it, put a woman next to you, but don’t think of her face, it doesn’t matter. Awesome women will choose awesome and strong MEN.

Of course you might seed insecurity in a woman if you show weaknesses. Not because is abnormal to have weaknesses, but because you waist your time showing them instead of fixing them, and of course she might think lower of you, of course you will slowly descend from the MAN spot from inside of her brain.

Key takeaway: Learn to be self sufficient, especially from an emotional standpoint. Your love, respect and appreciation must be enough! If you reach that, anybody else’s will come.

[–]bigbentower2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I appreciate your words, I now see it differently. It should go both ways, men want a strong and independent women who doesn't complain about weakness but rather fixes them. My only issue was thinking less of the other person, a man will never view his woman less because she's going thru a tough time, but unfortunately a woman will view a man less if he's going through a tough time because it's unmanly. That kinda sucks

[–]jibraiel0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It’s not necessarily about going through tough times, we all go through that, it’s more about how you react or adapt or overcome it. (Bear Grills reference right there :)) )

[–]roxroxane0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

great answer bro, i'm 28 years old and i was having this mentality at 26, very good for you to think so young, congratulations!

[–]Tommynopants1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s reality. This truth will push you to self sufficiency, independence, and ultimate self confidence! You don’t need a women to get all goo goo Gaga with, you’re not a little boy anymore

[–]Infernir0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You can have all of that, but you have to be conscious of reality you so can prevent getting hurt and also it won't impact you as much if the burn does happen.

You have a loaded gun pointed at you at all times with women. And if you get married you have multiple cannons pointed at you at all times with the government.

[–]sekoeriti0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Hey man, I feel you. 20 is still young. People at 40 don't even have their life figured out as well. There is no such thing as: "when I get a relationship/receive love, THEN I am happy". No, fuck no! Google some books (i.e., the power of now) about self-acceptance, and learn to appreciate yourself. Only then other people see your abundance mentality and notice that you can bring something to the table as well (instead of only wanting to receive stuff, such as 'love' in your case). People struggle with this all the time, you are not alone ;)

[–]bigbentower1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

I appreciate the response. Don't get me wrong, id never allow myself in a relationship if I don't have my shit together first. I want to be happy before being happy with someone else, I'm not gonna depend my happiness on someone, hell no. And I also want to give love as well, more than the other person in fact. I just want the feeling of someone loving you thats all. Idk if it's biological or something I just want, the intimacy and affection of another human is something I really want. In my household I pretty much wasn't allowed to show it, being the only male child surrounded by multiple sisters, my parents would always warn me not to touch them or even hug them ever since I was super young (5-6 maybe). I don't recall a time where I've given or recieved a genuine hug, not even from my parents. Idk if it's something everyone experienced but I certainly don't think it's right

[–]sekoeriti0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Everyone wants to feel appreciated, that's just a fact. In your case you desire this even more because of your childhood (which is not necessarily biological!). This is just a problem that you have, and everyone would understand this, even women. Eventually you will find someone who is able to provide you with this. Relationships should be a healthy balance between you satisfying her and vice-versa. If it doesn't go both ways you will eventually stumble upon something better..

[–]bigbentower0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

You've given me hope, thanks man. Usually people feel that appreciation from family. Hopefully one day I'll have my own and implement those changes. At this point if I were to honestly answer "do you have a family", is honestly no. Yes they are there, but they aren't at the same time

[–]sekoeriti0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Don't worry too much about it man.. This will stick with you for the rest of your life, and you will make sure your kids don't go through the same!

[–]Lamecobra14 points15 points  (3 children) | Copy

If opening up to a woman & showing a woman your weaknesses always inevitably leads to dissilusionment & loss of attraction, why do you guys suppose women work so hard to get there?

If you're familiar with Ogi Ogas' "A billion wicked thoughts, that study shows that women's No.1 sexual fantasy is precisely that, taking a dominant, individualistic, reserved-type alpha & helping him get in touch with his emotions, learning about his sensitive side, etc.

Let's assume that the aforementioned premise is true, how would we interpret that? Is this like an ultimate shit test, or perhaps a way to achieve power over males, the inherently more dominant & powerful sex (i.e a retaliation of sorts)?

[–]anakinskynoobi20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

It is just that you like the game when your are playing it not when you finish it. You enjoy the journey but once you finish there is nothing more to do so the game loses interest and you move to other things. What you say is not incompatible with the OP.

[–]jrr6415sun13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

Sure they want to get the alpha in touch with his emotions but then it’s game over and they lose attraction, their mission is done and they conquered him.

It’s like asking why guys lose interest after cumming. If they lose interest why did they want to cum so bad.

[–]1BlondeHornyElf4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s like asking why guys lose interest after cumming. If they lose interest why did they want to cum so bad.

This is a great analogy. The mirroring of {her desire to break down the alpha into a beta} and the man's {desire to orgasm inside a woman} is interesting to think about and makes the idea more relatable.

In both cases it's the "win situation" and supports the person's ego, even though it incurs costs on the other party.

[–]Xxx-Lou-xxX16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

No matter how many times, i hear the “open up” sentence, deep inside automatically i shutdown even more. I haven’t in my life opened up to a woman even before TRP. They communicate in one direction.

[–]Dls9540511 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

Save all that trauma for a good therapist. They will give you what you need in response. Your woman never will. She will just traumatize you further.

[–]theguytheguy10004 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

the way i see it, you can say what you want to women.

the problem arises when you emotionally lean on her.

i'll happily tell a woman all my insecurities, cos I honestly couldn't give less of a fuck about her opinion on it. I'm an open book, cos if you don't like me you can leave.

you can say or do what you want, but when you start leaning on her for emotional support, that's when you're fucked but frankly I only have a few people i can really lean on for emotional support in my life anyway and they are my closest friends. I really don't expect anyone else to understand or try and lift me up to be honest, and if they weren't around then i'd have to figure it out myself but fuck it, such is life.

Expecting other people to get your problems is a fools errand, you got very few people in your life who will ever really get it and be willing to try and help. Even your best friends can only do so much. so just by virtue of them having a vagina you can already count out women for being one of those people.

[–]HangTheGods13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

It's not your fault

This is the worst thing you can say to a woman since it makes you look like a powerless victim. Obviously, you were a powerless victim if terrible things happened in childhood, but as harsh as it sounds it'll always be a massive turn-off that it happened at all.

[–]Schhwing2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

A female will push and prod you in your weak spots. How you respond is how she will judge you as a man.

[–]RedEyeBlackEye12 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Facts! Even if you're literally Superman,piss Lois off and she may just give lex Luther the kryptonite to kill you with.

[–]Sake992 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It is your fault; why don't you have guy friends for that? I feel much better in opening up to my guy friends than my gf.

[–]Shankhoneel2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I have an antidote for this. Reveal your emotions, and then promptly withdraw your attention for a day or two.

Benefits: 1. You get to contemplate about life; contemplation makes you a better and richer human than 'talking it out' does. 2. Her instant disgust for you shall be replaced by a suspicion that you have gone to the arms of 'another lover' (however temporarily), who 'accepts you more'.

Thus, you get the best of both worlds. Next time you see your girl, just wordlessly pump the crap outta her. Both you and she end up happier.

[–]i-reddit-ck2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

The more I’m growing up, the quicker I’m realizing this. Not just with women but EVERYONE and ANYONE. They will use whatever you’ve spilled against you. Maybe not directly but also indirectly. They can gauge you from what you say and treat you in regards to said things. Therefore I’ve realized I need to STFU. Speaking less is always more. Everyone loves talking about themselves true, but being mentally prepared and watching your tongue is key in a social environment.

[–]Balderdash797 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

A woman wants to tame a lion and make it into a pet tomcat.

Most women have their pet tomcat's balls snipped.

2 balls minus 2 balls equals 0 balls.

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[–]ToraChan231 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

If you open up to a woman you later dumped, guess what she can do with all the juicy info you gave her that no one else knew?

[–]jibraiel0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She can do whatever she wants! If a man feels confident enough to share a weakness to a woman, he shouldn’t be ashamed to share it with anybody else, or with the entire world for that matter. It’s just that the man chooses that specific person to share it with so he can get over it or help him in that process.

[–]Mouse17011 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

As much as I hate to say this it feels like I'm being dishonest with even myself if I'm not sharing my sensitivities with the woman I'm with. I know its totally counterintuitive to do it. Here is some honest to goodness facts and I mean real facts every man I have met or known in my life has failed in life. Every single one. We all have failures including myself. I absolutely guarantee this. Name me a C.E.O. a politician or a billionaire or even a Hollywood celebrity. I guarantee I will find atleast one that had gone through a break up a divorce or a financial difficulty gone bankrupt. had their children taken from them. Gone through drug and alcohol addiction. Lost bodyparts due to being on a job or in war like a soldier or police officer.or perhaps been in a car wreck and lost a arm or leg.Been falsely accused of rape or being a woman beater. Woman are the worst deceivers on the face of this planet. I hate trying to figure out actually what a woman is thinking or even feeling. Cause half the time I actually dont know. As I have gotten older I realized I have gotten better at reading women and people in general but it doesn't help when women over exaggerate the fact that you never do such and such. Also woman de emphasize things and say stuff like ohh he really didn't hurt me that bad it's only a small wound. Woman are excellent liars and almost about as useful as a framed painting. It should be nailed to a wall and is nice to look at but what are they really do that's really useful.

[–]ExtremePeak1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I cried to my now gf while drink about my grandpa who had died a few months ago, then she told me she loved and have been together a year and a half now. Thoughts?

[–]TrenWarrior1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

This is totally true, I was in an STR with an SB10 and it was going well... I'm a Roided out pretty attractive guy and former Marine so fucking sexy bitches is nothing new.. really. However back to what the OP said "having a tainted purple-pill heart" i fucked up and opened up to her my bro's.... like fucking clock-work an hour after working-out with this bitch she hit me with some fairy-tales and broke up with me... I literally laughed at how predictable these bitches are... but whatever... I already got her replacement.

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[–]TrenWarrior1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dead-on brother... thank god for the fuckin red-pill.

[–]BigBoiBahmani0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It is true. Only confide with your rp bros, or if God blessed you, then with your wise father. Nowhere else.

[–]Ashley_Titor0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Better yet, random people over the internet who don't know you and won't ever meet you again, just don't drop identifiable information and remember opsec

[–]Bitr0t0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I’ve experienced this first hand. Do not discuss your problems because in an argument she will bring it up to belittle you. Do not bring up any hopes and dreams with her because in an angry tirade, she will mention it to make you appear to be a fuckup who cannot execute or make things happen.

Keep it to yourself. As others have stated, see a (male) therapist If you need to vent.

[–]3trplurker0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Deep down, even the most redpilled men have a purple-tainted heart and want to be loved for who they really are inside, so sadly even the most vigilant man can be caught off guard.

So true but there is a remedy, male friends.

Sharing emotions and weakness's is something we do with close friends only. Women can never be a close friend.

That desire we have to share weakness's and be loved is something we reserve for the male friends we made over a lifetime of experience. Unfortunately most of the men here don't have such friends, society and feminism has conditioned them away from such toxic masculine relationships.

[–]tb1510 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This needs to be read and understood. Since my divorce and eyes opening, every single girl I date tries their damnedest to have me open up and be vulnerable. It's in their DNA, programmed. They will literally say it, beg me to. I was married to a malignant covert narcissist, you can bet that anything I said was used against me. Never again. It gets comical after a while, watching these girls try everything in their power. It can be as simple as asking you about a movie that made you cry.. Don't answer that. You can bet your ass they will put it on.

[–]xX420JUICYSYNAPSEX690 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

i’m sure there are girl out there who will. but honestly this has never been my experience

[–]Dudewheresmymoto10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Its like riding a motorcycle. If you reveal your weaknesses or insecurities, youve crashed.

[–]Bjarne_Rist0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The important part is: talking to women does not give you what you want to achieve by sharing.

You want to feel better about yourself. And you feel better by being heard by someone who does not tell it to others. By being told

  1. that you are okay even if that happened to you what happened to you.
  2. That you are safe.
  3. That it won't happen again.
  4. And that there are people who support you.

It seems seductive to tell a woman about all that. But in reality, this will happen:

  1. She will signal you, that you are not okay but tell you, you were, because her feelings deteriorate.
  2. She needs someone to make HER feel safe. If you ask for her to provide you shelter, she will make you feel that you are desired less. Always pay attention to how you feel, not what she says.
  3. She knows that it will happen again, thinks about her future and dismisses you as quickly as she can.
  4. There might be people to support you, but it will not be her.

When my girlfriend and I split, I couldn't get another one, which was why I tried to get her back for her to "lick my wounds". Then I noticed that and got back into the game.

[–]Free112350 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Is there such a thing as being in a loving relationship when your red pill aware? I feel like for those like us that are aware of female nature, it’s damn near impossible to ever trust a girl again

[–]readrat350 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I learned this the hard way. Had been dating an LTR for about 7 months, everything was going well, we had never argued or anything. One night I open up a little bit about what makes me tick. She immediately became cold towards me, and not two days later she breaks up with me because she "didn't like who I really was." Held frame and everything, blocked her etc. Still hurt like a bitch knowing that months of commitment was thrown down the drain over half an hour of pillow talk.

[–]changy150 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So I follow redpill advice pretty religiously, but what about the women who are out there with no kids etc who bust their ass 60-70 hours a week trying to make careers for themselves and only have the occasional off fuck when they are ran down from their job? I’ve seen some women who act more like men in that regard and genuinely aren’t riding cock carousel etc. though I know the long game is the same surely there are signs that some women are less succumbed to hypergamy than others.

[–]wannaseeawheelie-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I ride Supermoto, gear is for pussies. NGATT



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