The discussion on this thread bears out a couple of RP truths.

For example, here's dundundundone:

i'm pretty sure i'd feel tricked. the answer above also applies here, though. the motives behind following this guide matter.

haircombsnightmare:

I would start seeing him as someone potentially dangerous. I'd wonder why he needs a guide for everything. Is it because he lacks any kind of natural human feeling that leads him to do things? Does he hold this immature view of relationships? Is he unable to decide things by himself based only on his experiences, and anyone can influence him? Am I just dating a puppet? It'd be a red flag for me.

If he only takes some advice from the guide, depends on the advice, but it's not as terribe. I still would question his level of filter when it comes to receiving advice from others.

belletaco:

I would definitely feel manipulated. There's only so long you can keep up the charade.

strongalfalfa:

I'd feel manipulated and naturally attractive guys are better.

mcconnelldemasi:

Instead of feeling like I found a high quality leather couch, I got a IKEA built your self table stand.

This is strong evidence of the following:

  • Women want men to "just get it". Women expect men to "just know" what women find attractive. It seems the idea of a learning curve on matters of intersexual relationships shouldn't be a thing. Men should have just "figured all this stuff out" long before women meet them, it seems. And it all has to be "natural". They do not want to know that a man had to "learn" attraction because it's somehow "not real", it's "inauthentic" and "fake".

  • I've long suspected that many women don't really want to know how men are "made" or built. The "Imagine" thread confirms this for me. Many women, it would appear, just want their man there, on a shelf at the "man store", ready-made and pre-fabbed and "off the rack" so they can take them home with no work added and no alterations necessary.

It's a bit like sausage making. People like sausage, like to eat it and like to have it. But they don't want to actually see how sausage is processed and made before it gets packaged into a final product for consumption. People would prefer not to know any of those details; they just want their sausage. People also don't want to actually do any of those things to make their own sausage; they just want to go to the store and purchase it ready-made.

So it is with women and their men - they want their men ready made, prepared and prepackaged for consumption. They don't want to add anything, do anything, or know how he got there -- they just want their man there.

EDIT: -Another issue here is how women influence the "making" of men. It used to be that boys' upbringing was handled by men -- fathers, uncles, granddads, male teachers, male athletic coaches, etc. It was handled outside the view and influence of women. Now with a divorce rate approaching 50%, most fathers are out of the equation. Most men aren't permitted to take any sort of active role in a boy's upbringing unless that man is the boy's father; and even then his influence is heavily tempered, reduced and diluted. Women insist that boys' upbringing be "tempered" and "eased", and insist that mothers and other women should influence how a boy is raised. This tends to result in coddling, lack of challenges, and removing consequences for a boy's decisions. This tends to produce men who do not "naturally" learn matters of intersexual relationships.

Discuss.