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Should /r/TheRedPill be banned? Looks like Reddit admin think so...

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October 1, 2019
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If you haven't seen yet- reddit admin have announced that TheRedPill is to be banned per the recent policy update.

https://np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/dbjyy6/reddit_banning_all_opposing_viewpoints_prepare_to/

Do you agree with this action?

Should PPD be protected from removal, given that PPD clearly violates the same rules?


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Title Should /r/TheRedPill be banned? Looks like Reddit admin think so...
Author redpillschool
Upvotes 19
Comments 250
Date 01 October 2019 12:34 AM UTC (12 months ago)
Subreddit PurplePillDebate
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/286932
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/dbl5q1/should_rtheredpill_be_banned_looks_like_reddit/
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[–][deleted] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children) | Copy

Locking and removing this, as the news of TRP's demise has been greatly exaggerated.

[–]Thy_MushroomMystic mushroom pill14 points15 points  (8 children) | Copy

The only thing banning communities does is force them to make their nest elsewhere, thus increasing the echo chamber effect. People then retreat into whatever community parrots the context of truth that they prefer. No one is ever invalidated as they never run into opinions they disagree with, but no one is ever right.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy

Without a mainstream platform like reddit to host them I think you'll see it shrink to the few hardcore dudes whose identity relies on this stuff. They'll keep writing essays at each other, but there will never be that constant influx of new users that reddit provides.

[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

That only works for groups like the Daily Stormer and Stormfront. TRP is calling out to half the human species with both immutable truths and some really bad advice. The many immutable truths will draw men to their sites. Plus they also thrive on Twitter and Tumblr.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Ok I think you're wrong but I guess we'll see.

[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Come to think of it, restricting racist forums to the Daily Stormer, etc. didn't stop the rise of the Alt Reich or Trump. And they're far more extreme and downright retarded than TRP.

[–]maplehobo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Plus they also thrive on Twitter and Tumblr.

They do?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

That’s kind of what inceltears doesn’t quite get, they work so hard trying to get all of the incel subreddits banned, but they just end up creating new ones.

[–]wageovsin1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Do redpillers have a independent forum (that is more extreme then the reddit one).. i know incels will just goto the far more toxic place outside reddit. Even if some didnt associate with the violent aspects, they are all in one place now

[–]randomizer3000 1 points [recovered]  (42 children) | Copy

As long as r/gendercritical is a thing on reddit, this is literally just directly enforcing an Overton window based on SoCal politics.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew2 points3 points  (39 children) | Copy

what does this mean

[–]randomizer3000 1 points [recovered]  (38 children) | Copy

that sub is just TRP but for radfems. Same (or harsher) tone of gender "discrimination" and all the toxicity. There aren't even any redeeming qualities like TRP has, but its for women so its all good.

[–]katymarxPurple Pill Woman16 points17 points  (11 children) | Copy

I'd be down w gendercritical being banned, those women are hateful AF. and what's funny is there still a bunch of white nights on there hinking they're going to get some Radfem pussy.

That being said I see the communication style on gendercritical very much feminine. Meaning there's a whole lot of complaining but not a lot of calculated advice on how to destroy transgender people's lives or how to get porn banned.

The actionable advice in trp can read as a lot more risky even though I don't personally think they are that different.

[–]hammerhauntsbread pill0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy

I'd be down w gendercritical being banned, those women are hateful AF.

And you're just a ray of sunshine?

[–]katymarxPurple Pill Woman0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy

I don't hate men, sex, or trans people.

[–]hammerhauntsbread pill0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

You hate anyone who's awkward or potentially an outcast.

[–]katymarxPurple Pill Woman0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

No I don't. Not at all. I'm awkward and have been and outcast and have run w these types for ages. Keep in mind I'm spending a lot of time here, it can't be because I'm the prom queen....

[–]hammerhauntsbread pill0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

No I don't. Not at all.

People can read your post history.

[–]katymarxPurple Pill Woman0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

People can also project from my post history. Curious ish why you think that though, because I talk shit to incels sometimes?

[–]Eastuss༼ つ ▀̿_▀̿ ༽つ4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Disagree, GC is much more closer to MGTOW than TRP.

[–]SpinachIsYummyNo Pill1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

True

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

what are the "Redeeming qualities" that TRP has that GC doesnt?

[–]randomizer3000 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

I'm good, thanks. Go read it yourself if you're interested.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

you made the assertion that trp at least has redeeming qualities, can you not name them?

[–]randomizer3000 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

You've been here longer than I have. If you don't believe that TRP has any good parts, then me listing them will not convince you.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm asking YOU what YOU are asserting are the redeeming qualities, not what I think

[–]mistresswhat0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Those women are utterly hateful and I'm 100% okay with them getting banned.

[–]TheOGJammiesPlatinum Select While You Free Trial-3 points-2 points  (17 children) | Copy

Not even close. Gendercritical is about human rights TRP is about dudes getting laid. How dare you.

[–]randomizer3000 1 points [recovered]  (14 children) | Copy

lol. If you think GC doesnt hate men, then congrats, you're a sexist.

[–]StreetEntry2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Gendercritical is about human rights

Why do you lie?

[–]Eastuss༼ つ ▀̿_▀̿ ༽つ1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

If GenderCritical is about human rights then MGTOW is too.

[–]hammerhauntsbread pill4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

gendercritical is way better than tranny subs

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Gender discrimination lawsuit

[–]Kos_-_Omak6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why are the admins so retarded? Without a containment area RPers will be free to shitpost everywhere and spread the Good News. Just like how the incels became immensely more annoying after all the main incel subs got banned.

[–]hammerhauntsbread pill7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Do you agree with this action?

In principle I don't like it, but reddit is a garbage fire anyway so I don't care

[–][deleted] 1 points  (3 children) | Copy

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[–]rus9384Misanthrope5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

No large site will ever accept the manosphere because there's no financial reason to.

Because the society does not accept manosphere, so that's it.

[–]NockerJoeKing Hater2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

This is true. But look at my flair. It is what it is.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, the west has sold freedom for money.

[–]Purecope20196 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

I think if it was dating advice and not angry hatred spewing itd be useful.

Unfortunately its the latter

[–]Aaren_AugustineWants a Cookie0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

They will be a version of that before too long.

[–]TheJim66Red God-Emperor of Slut Country0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

And it won't be as effective.

[–]PPD-AngelIncel Ban Count: 17[M] 5 points6 points  (7 children) | Copy

This post is fine. But PurplePillDebate is not a place for you to advertise your Web Site, so cut that out.

[–]redpillschoolRed Pill[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

What does PPD have to do if the people you argue with are gone?

[–]PPD-AngelIncel Ban Count: 17[M] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

It can die, it would be unfortunate but if it does happen, it does happen.

[–]FightGuard5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

What is ur purpose in life if u can't be a mod at ppd?

[–]PPD-AngelIncel Ban Count: 171 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I would have no purpose then.

[–]katymarxPurple Pill Woman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'd take you in and mend your broken Angel wings....

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[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (66 children) | Copy

Reddit is a private company and they should do whatever they like. They've decided you guys are bad for their brand, so yes, they should ban you. They have no responsibility to provide a platform to groups that damage their bottom line.

Funny how the "libertarians" suddenly back-pedal when they don't get what they want

[–]NockerJoeKing Hater8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

Not gonna lie. That is in fact funny.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

Just 6 hours ago /u/redpillschool's bff /u/whisper wrote

"Should" just means "I want", with a side order of "and I don't want to take responsibility for wanting it".

Sure, you can want men to be like this, or that, or the other. But they're not going to unless they want it as well.

Just hilarious if you replace "men" with "Reddit".

[–]StreetEntry6 points7 points  (9 children) | Copy

What you said is right, but that doesn't mean the admins aren't hypocritical though. As really no left wing sub has gotten banned despite them also violating the rules here on reddit.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy

Have you seen the list of newly banned subreddits? There's like a dozen anti-white ones in there.

[–]StreetEntry1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy

No, but I highly doubt there's a list of banned anti white subs.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

[–]StreetEntry3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy

So barely a handful of anti white subs that probably had next to no users got banned. Let me know when a sub like Gendercritical or any other noted well known left wing sub like Topmindsofreddit gets banned. This is besides way more right wing subs got banned than left wing subs which were likely joke subs (one of them appears to have been created by a power mod).

[–]SpinachIsYummyNo Pill1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I mean mgtow is still up and should stay up, so I see no reason why gendercritical should be banned. Those two subs don't gnerally advocate/encourage mistreatment of others.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Ah, I'm talking to a no true Scotsman. Nevermind then.

[–]StreetEntry4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

lol wut? I don't think you know what the no true scotsman fallacy is let alone the point I was making.

[–]netflix_and_ldar5 points6 points  (37 children) | Copy

The issue is when they can say they are a platform where anyone can post, in order to get legal protections, but at the same time use powers like they are a publisher. I don't think any site should be a regarded as a platform because they ultimately have censorship powers, whether you know they are being used or not, and thus they shouldn't be categorized as such.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (35 children) | Copy

Where do they say they're a platform where anyone can post?

[–]netflix_and_ldar5 points6 points  (34 children) | Copy

It's in the law. Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act says that "No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider". In effect, the law protects them from a range of laws that might otherwise be used to hold them legally responsible for what others say and do.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

What laws affect publishers besides copyright?

[–]netflix_and_ldar4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Mainly libel, but also: protect intermediaries against claims of negligent misrepresentation, interference with business expectancy, breach of contract, intentional nuisance, violations of federal civil rights, and emotional distress

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (31 children) | Copy

That doesn't answer the question. Where does is say that anyone can post whatever they want without it being removed, regardless of reddit's T&S?

[–]netflix_and_ldar3 points4 points  (30 children) | Copy

The fact of the matter is, reddit presents itself as an open platform where anyone can make any subreddit they want and post what they want, but when people start posting things they don't politically agree with, they start censoring. They are using legal protections that were implemented to make sites open platforms but at the same time, censoring content they don't like.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (14 children) | Copy

reddit presents itself as an open platform where anyone can make any subreddit they want and post what they want

No, it doesn't.

[–]netflix_and_ldar2 points3 points  (13 children) | Copy

Yes it does. But that is beside the point. The point is, they shouldn't get legal protections of an open platform if they don't, in good faith of the law, function as an open platform.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (12 children) | Copy

Open platform doesn't mean that they need to allow content that goes against their T&S

You guys have just invented that definition because it allows you to be outraged, but it is not how reddit or the law define it.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew-1 points0 points  (14 children) | Copy

Publishers can censor whatever they want, what are you talking about?

[–]netflix_and_ldar2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'm not saying publishers can't censor what they want, my point is that reddit isn't a publisher, yet they are using their powers like they are a publisher.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Publisher or not has no bearing on freedom of speech.

[–]wekacuckLife is settling.1 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy

Unlike reddit, publishers are responsible for what they publish. Reddit (and most social media sites) operates under safe harbor exemptions that restrict their editorial powers to avoid responsibility for being publishers of reddit's content.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew-1 points0 points  (9 children) | Copy

That literally has nothing to do with whether or not private publishers or non publishers are legally required to uphold freedom of speech

[–]Vegetas_HaircutDrugs are bad; don't take pills.0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I agree; I think this should be interpreted way more strictly by the courts.

Essentially, I believe that websites like reddit and youtube should become personally liable for copyright violation and all that stuff the moment they start being publishers and censor things based on their own ideology or commercial interests.

The moment youtube does things like censor nipples or certain content because it hurts their ad revenue they become publishers because they clearly already decide what is and isn't acceptable and they should just become personally liable for any copyright enfringment and can't say "That's what the users did; we're not personally liable" any more; I feel that if companies want to have that kind of protection they should legally be required to be open and not censor on content themselves in return.

[–]WhisperTotally LARPing. Really.0 points1 point  (13 children) | Copy

Reddit has no idea what's good for their brand. They aren't on the black and never have been.

[–]_anothergumnut_ 1 points [recovered]  (10 children) | Copy

Ah yes, you know best. Must be why you're running a soon-to-be defunct message board for foreign edgelords and not a $3 billion company.

Regardless, to answer the OP, what they "should" do is whatever they want to.

[–]WhisperTotally LARPing. Really.5 points6 points  (9 children) | Copy

You really aren't that good at shit testing, you know that? Am I now supposed to fall all over myself trying to convince you how important I am?

I don't care.

As for reddit, it is sufficient to observe that steering wheels don't teach you how to drive, and that if I buy a horse for three billion dollars, it doesn't magically become a three billion dollar horse, it simply becomes a horse that some dude was foolish enough to pay three billion dollars for.

Reddit doesn't know how to monetize its audience, because is audience is largely anonymous. Facebook is valuable because it knows a lot about its product. Reddit doesn't, and it isn't. Trying to cultivate a safe disneyland image to court advertisers isn't going to help. Neither would going the opposite way. There may not be a good way to run an anonymous BBS at a profit unless you have an actual product to sell.

Reddit doesn't actual create anything, and the market abhors a middleman.

[–]_anothergumnut_ 1 points [recovered]  (8 children) | Copy

Aw neg harder bb, you're almost there.

I'm not the one who bases my identity around an internet forum. "Vanguard". Lol.

[–]WhisperTotally LARPing. Really.3 points4 points  (7 children) | Copy

Not interested in what you base your identity around. You wanna talk about reddit's monetization model, or not?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy

I'm actually not interested in whether reddit's monetization is successful or not. My point was that they chose to ban trp based on a business decision, whether that's a good decision is irrelevant.

Their content policy allows them to remove anything they want to, so the whole discussion about whether they "should" or should not ban the sub is a stupid one. If they think it's a good idea, then that's what they "should" do. Whining about it is pointless.

Migrate whoever can be bothered following you to your own website, and if you fail to flourish without reddit's constant influx of new users, that's just too bad.

[–]WhisperTotally LARPing. Really.3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy

Any discussion of "should" is either a hypothetical imperative, or someone trying to disguise "I want" as a categorical imperative... since there are no categorical imperatives.

So "reddit should do this" means either "I want reddit to do this", or "reddit would be best served by doing this".

Only the second one is interesting, because anyone can want things.

I wouldn't even say this is a bad move for reddit, because I don't think there are any good moves for reddit. Its old "free speech" attitude certainly allowed it to draw a large audience, but what it didn't do is help reddit become self-sufficient.

Now reddit is trying to do that, but I don't think it's going to work. Not merely because this kind of thing makes audiences less engaged, but because the fickle attention of an anonymous audience simply isn't worth that much.

It was never worth that much to me... which is why I was never foolish enough to try to monetize it and quit my career.

Facebook makes money because it has detailed personal data on people to sell. Reddit doesn't.

"A bunch of people are reading my website, how do I make money off that?" is a much more difficult problem than people think. A mere count of eyes doesn't measure actual engagement. Internet audiences are fickle.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

I just said I wasn't interested in discussing whether or not it was a good idea. Can you find someone else to talk at about that?

My comment was directed at RPS - I was simply pointing out that his "should" statement is meaningless. He seems to want to come in here and rally some kind of outrage at reddit for having done wrong by him, waggling his finger like an old maid. Keep the crying to TRP while you still have it. It's boring.

[–]chocolatchauud 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

They aren't on the black and never have been.

This is gonna be a shock to you but maybe it's because they keep the toxicity on their site at bay?

[–]Salty-Bastardjust an excitable boy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Reddit has never been in the black and never will be. The business model doesn't work.

[–]Vegetas_HaircutDrugs are bad; don't take pills.0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm not a "libertarian"; I just hate pretentiousness, especially this corporate and/or legal kind where they pretend it's about consistent interpretation of "rules" but it's really super arbitrary and all about emotional response and money.

Reddit can do whatever it wants; and I can criticize reddit for coming with sham excuses of "rules" which are just a pretext for "we decided we turn a higher profit if we ban this sub" which is the only reason behind it.

[–]Aaren_AugustineWants a Cookie7 points8 points  (7 children) | Copy

I don't know why you just don't rebrand and be more purple. You don't have to be Jordan Peterson but you'll probably be as popular as him.

There's no need for the edge or shock value. It's time for TRP to evolve or continue to be picked last for kickball.

[–]planejane 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

That would require the "graduation" you mentioned to me earlier, and a shift in view from women being mindless harpies to similarly flawed humans on some kind of equal merit with men, albeit with a slightly different set of priorities.

Not gonna happen. Men as victims works too well for them, and it will probably end up killing them if they do get banned.

[–]Aaren_AugustineWants a Cookie4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, it was worth a shot.

I like Patrice O'neal's explanation that he doesn't use it for evil. Just uses it as a defense if he needs to. I think that's the difference between treating this all like a philosophy rather than a war of the roses.

[–]SunflowerBurst1 in 12 Americans is unaware that the bird is the word4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

Actually I think the controversy and shock value is the main thing that draws in young men.

[–]Aaren_AugustineWants a Cookie2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Its a sexual strategy sub. Its main thing is to help young men get laid.

[–]SunflowerBurst1 in 12 Americans is unaware that the bird is the word5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

I know that yes, I don’t think it would draw in as many young men if people didn’t have butt sex usernames and talk about anal a lot and phrase things in the most polarizing way possible. People don’t want to read bland middle ground advice, people want to read that there’s a conspiracy and a controversial truth that’s too crazy for tv that they can get in on.

[–]Aaren_AugustineWants a Cookie2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

MRP gained a fuck ton of traction because it came up when people googled dead bedroom. It will be successful because it is. There are a lot of "bland" books that are required reading and they are very useful.

[–]SunflowerBurst1 in 12 Americans is unaware that the bird is the word2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah but it’s the shock value that draws in young frustrated men, that is marketing 101

[–]poppy_bluBeware the freight train2 points3 points  (24 children) | Copy

PPD is next.

[–]Aaren_AugustineWants a Cookie2 points3 points  (13 children) | Copy

You think so? It's just arguing.

[–]NockerJoeKing Hater4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's associated with that group and frequented by them as well as linking to the sub itself.

[–]SunflowerBurst1 in 12 Americans is unaware that the bird is the word2 points3 points  (11 children) | Copy

We are allowed to say a lot of non party line things that go against the reddit hivemind, even people who are moderate here are seen as controversial to the Reddit hivemind. So its possible.

[–]phoneybetamaniaSimpin' Ain't Easy2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy

you can do whatever the hell you want as long as you don't generate bad publicity for reddit and PPD is too small to do that.

[–]SunflowerBurst1 in 12 Americans is unaware that the bird is the word0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hopefully

[–]Salty-Bastardjust an excitable boy0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

You can live in Germany as long as you're a good Jew and follow the Nazis rules, just don't be a bad Jew and you'll be ok.

[–]phoneybetamaniaSimpin' Ain't Easy1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

how is nazi-controlled government in any way comparable to a private company deciding what to have on its website? the only bias here is money and making reddit project a more family friendly image helps their bottom line.

[–]Salty-Bastardjust an excitable boy0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

You people give up your freedoms and roll over to authority way too easy nowadays. You think silencing any dissenting opinion is a good thing? Same thing the German citizens did in 1936.

[–]phoneybetamaniaSimpin' Ain't Easy1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

not comparable. reddit isn't government-owned. people are free to go to other websites if they have issues with it.

[–]Salty-Bastardjust an excitable boy0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

You're completely missing the point. This fallacy that companies like apple, google, amazon, Reddit, etc. are just harmless websites that have no control over social manipulation is naive at best and blatant stupidity at worst.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Well, apparently people who don't belong to the hive still will be able to connect somehow. Outside of reddit.

[–]SunflowerBurst1 in 12 Americans is unaware that the bird is the word2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well at the moment voat is shut down.

[–]Salty-Bastardjust an excitable boy1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy

Yup

[–]poppy_bluBeware the freight train4 points5 points  (8 children) | Copy

It’s been real, y’all!

[–]webernicke2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy

Honestly as frustrating as you bloops on PPD can be, at least you allowed the red pilled people space to make our points and be heard even if you disagreed. Respect.

Now excuse me while I chase this (mandatory) blue pill with something strong and plug back in.

[–]poppy_bluBeware the freight train4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy

Why you’re calling me a bloop I have no idea

You are aware this shit is just for fun and being BP or RP is not a real thing.

Don’t you?

[–]webernicke1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Honestly as frustrating as you bloops on PPD can be, at least you they allowed the red pilled people space to make our points and be heard even if you they disagreed.

[–]itiswr1ttenEndorsed Negotiable Instrument0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's just words on the internet, people!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

You are aware this shit is just for fun and being BP or RP is not a real thing.

Seeing reality as it is is, well, a real thing, poppy.

I was raised to value the well being of the woman in my life above my own. Care to hazard a guess as to how much that actually helped the women in my life?

I've reorganized my life in explicitly Red Pill terms, and have been very happy since.

[–]poppy_bluBeware the freight train1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Stop. You know what I’m talking about. I’m talking about the folks carrying on day in and day out like there’s some real gender war going on and the whole world is organized into “reds” and “blues” who are pitted against each other to the death. IE people without much going on in their lives who take up an imaginary “cause” to feel relevant when they’re virtually shut out of the very world they spend their time obsessing over.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There is a real gender war going on out there in meat space. TRP was a reaction to it.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol, remembering what whisper have said on the word "should".

[–]yaseedog will hunt1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

ok grain of salt because I have not read the new rules, but TRP probably should yes. PPD...also probably

are you planning on going down with the ship?

[–]hyperrrealTolerable Shitposter1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

I don't think TRP should be banned.

But having said that, PPD doesn't violate the new content policy in the same way that the admins are alleging TRP does. TRP has a enforced point of view. PPD doesn't.

[–]Salty-Bastardjust an excitable boy0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Give it time, this sub, which is one of the most honest normal subs on Reddit, which you helped build, will fall victim to the reddit PC narrative too.

[–]crackrocksteady7buying gf2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

If you want to know exactly how much time, I've been a regular on a few banned wrong think subs. 25k-40k subscriber range is where they get axed

[–]hyperrrealTolerable Shitposter0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, but if we're thinking of the same places, those subs generated way more attention than PPD does.

[–]hyperrrealTolerable Shitposter2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's possible for sure. There's no way to really know what reddit will do.

But unlike TRP, Braincels, MDE, Frenworld, etc. on PPD people are always disagreeing. You can say un-PC things about women, men, etc. but usually the other side is strongly represented.

Combined with the fact that PPD generates absolutely no attention on reddit or in the media, I think there's a decent chance that PPD will slowly become less and less active, eventually dying, rather than getting the axe.

[–]I-wanna-GO-FAST1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

They "should" ban almost every political and gender related sub if they want to be consistent with their vague ass rules they're trying to enforce. But that's obviously not the point.

I'm just wondering if it's likely that this sub would get banned too. Personally I don't think it will. It's too small for them to care about.

[–]Physiologist21Cynic1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I look forward to the day all of these piece of shit giant tech companies and websites eat shit.

[–]mistresswhat1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, because Nazis.

It's fun to argue with you idiots but at the end of the day I'm fine with it getting removed.

[–]wtknightGen X Slacker1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Reddit has the right to ban TRP. Personally I prefer free speech even if that speech is unpopular, but I don’t particularly like echo chambers on either side of the spectrum. I prefer free speech on debate subs like this one.

[–]nemma8831/F/UK INFP -t. Engaged1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think reading an being a part of the TRP experience really normalizes it in a way we forget it is a fringe group which by any normal standard can also be classed as extreme.

Personally I don't believe in the whole silencing something makes it stronger so there's that. I'd miss PPD though I guess? Us debating people will find something else to debate I'm sure.

[–]WestsideMoonWalkerNot a Negative Creep4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

My hard work is done. Mwah ha ha ha. But seriously. Who cares. Fuck TRP. Lol.

[–]wekacuckLife is settling.3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yup TRP mods have certainly earned it. You banned me for nothing and ran a bullshit harassment campaign across five subreddits so fuck you. Zero tears shed. Bye.

[–]HIJKelemenoP2 points3 points  (32 children) | Copy

Nothing on reddit should be banned. No one should be censored. Ever.

[–]Ofourkind6 points7 points  (30 children) | Copy

Limiting content on a private website is not "censorship"

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

Anything of the magnitude of Reddit, Google, or Facebook should be regulated as a public utility. If our politicians weren't as illiterate as they are corrupt, it would've been done already.

That may mean speech is even more restricted in some ways, less in others, but an unchallenged oligarchy shouldn't be empowered to arbitrarily dictate what is acceptable and what isn't. Imagine if the electric company or the water company could pick and choose on a whim who to extend service to. It is just as ridiculous, and people who don't see it that way do not because it is too early on to have the perspective we now do of the basic power/water/etc. services we take for granted

[–]WestsideMoonWalkerNot a Negative Creep3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nah, ISPs should be regulated as a public utility. Platforms shouldn't.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Anything of the magnitude of Reddit, Google, or Facebook should be regulated as a public utility. If our politicians weren't as illiterate as they are corrupt, it would've been done already.

Banning communities is a stupid way for that, though.

[–]Tidalikk0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

is that a joke?

Cause it's a bad one

[–]Ofourkind2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Censorship is a legal definition, and private websites cannot actually censor.

Should I be allowed to go to Martha Stewart's website and go on and on about car maintenance or dog training? Nope. Not because of censorship, but because the company sets guidelines for discussion and those guidelines do not include those things.

[–]Tidalikk1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Call it all you want buddy it’s still censoring people opinion . Being all like aKcTuALy, only makes you look worse.

[–]Ofourkind4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

What do you consider "censorship"? Any limitation on topic or language at all? If my boss tells me I cant talk about sex or politics at work, am I being unjustly "censored"? If you go on /r/kayaking and try to start a thread about miso soup recipes and get shut down, are you being "censored"?

[–]HIJKelemenoP-2 points-1 points  (22 children) | Copy

Yes it is.

[–]Purecope20191 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

Send this guy to china lol

[–]HIJKelemenoP0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Why? Also please don’t call me “guy”.

[–]Purecope20193 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

Because you need to learn what censorship is guy

[–]HIJKelemenoP0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Enlighten me. Plz mansplain it to me.

[–]Purecope20190 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Google it

[–]HIJKelemenoP1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thought so.

[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse0 points1 point  (15 children) | Copy

LOL legally speaking, no it's not.

[–]HIJKelemenoP1 point2 points  (14 children) | Copy

Being censored is being censored. Laws have nothing to do with censorship. Blocking someone’s ability to speak or discuss a topic is censorship.

[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse3 points4 points  (13 children) | Copy

Censorship is a legal concept. Sorry but facts are facts.

[–]HIJKelemenoP0 points1 point  (12 children) | Copy

If you were trying to express something to a person and I made it so you couldn’t express it would that be censoring you?

[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy

Nope. Not unless it led to me being arrested.

[–]HIJKelemenoP0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy

What would you call that? Obviously other than things like “I’d call it you being a dick”.

What would you really call that?

Also, I know there’s always an argumentative undertone to reddit comments but I genuinely don’t understand how that wouldn’t be censorship..

To me that’s like saying killing someone isn’t murder because murder is a law term. It’s still murdering someone whether the law is involved or not.

[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy

Much as I despise seeing TRP banned from Reddit, Conservatives used to call it private property rights. It amuses the fuck out of me that they think that concept is null and void now that it is hurting them. So I'm kind of conflicted between wanting Reddit to save TRP and laughing at the whiny right wingtards as they boil in their own stew.

[–]Tidalikk0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

i'm with you, i fucking despise the massive censorship there is on reddit

[–]strangelovesglassesstay still, eyes closed1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

i couldn’t give a shit.

[–]QueenCousland860 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Damn, now where am I going to lurk and laugh?

[–]Dustin_BromainTeam Red0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

TheRedPill is how I found reddit in general. Seeing it get banned is a surreal experience.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Adios, shitholes

[–]ShearStressin0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The comment to up vote ratio clearly shows the overall theme of Reddit. Which is: If I don't agree with your opinions, I will remove you to protect my narrow and fragile Idea structure.

[–]DevilishRogueKnows more than you0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

[–]Ofourkind0 points1 point  (75 children) | Copy

Are they breaking the rules? Ban them.

[–]redpillschoolRed Pill[S] 4 points5 points  (72 children) | Copy

What rules are being broken?

[–]Ofourkind8 points9 points  (71 children) | Copy

I don't spend enough time on that sub to know, but the new rules forbid bullying, harassment, and overt sexism and racism. If that's happening over there, they should be banned.

This is a private website. They are allowed to enforce whatever rules they wish.

[–]StreetEntry3 points4 points  (13 children) | Copy

The rules they are enforcing is much more enforcing a political ideology. Notice how they aren't enforcing the rules at all on any left wing sub? Subs like Gendercritical and TrollX are openly sexist towards men but the admins do nothing about it.

[–]Ofourkind0 points1 point  (12 children) | Copy

Are websites not allowed to be left or right leaning?

[–]StreetEntry1 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy

Did I not say they can't be?

[–]Ofourkind-1 points0 points  (9 children) | Copy

You're leveling it like it's some kind of accusation.

Who cares if they have a political agenda? How is that relevant to their freedom to curate content?

[–]StreetEntry1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

If they have a political agenda which they do it hinders what content that can be created.

[–]Ofourkind0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

And?

They are free to curate whatever they want. Don't like the rules, use a different platform

[–]StreetEntry0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Good luck finding a platform that isn't left wing.

[–]wanker71710 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

How is that relevant to their freedom to curate content?

Because they're not being honest to their community about it, which is a pretty massive deal when we're talking about one of the most visited sites in the US. If Facebook suddenly said "We've updated our guidelines so that we can remove all views associated with socialism because of the harmful totalitarian threat it posses" and then they removed anything regarding Bernie Sanders, Justice Democrats, etc. Do you really expect reasonable people to look at that and say "You should be allowed to have a bias when your company is so massive you have data on every human being in the US."

Fuck no, people would demand the federal government regulate them.

[–]Ofourkind1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I hope you see how you contradicted yourself here

"They're not being honest with their users"

"They updated their guidelines and implemented them"

[–]wanker71710 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

So you're saying

"We've updated our guidelines so that we can remove all views associated with socialism because of the harmful totalitarian threat it posses" and then they removed anything regarding Bernie Sanders, Justice Democrats, etc.

is not dishonest? You can't even make an argument in good faith

[–]Vegetas_HaircutDrugs are bad; don't take pills.0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You said it was about rules, not about politics.

[–]NiceGuyNumber41 point2 points  (42 children) | Copy

overt sexism

So PPD is gone too, yeah?

[–]Ofourkind1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Maybe. If the admins think the content here is too inflammatory I imagine it will be banned. No great loss.

[–]poppy_bluBeware the freight train3 points4 points  (39 children) | Copy

Not if the men leave

[–]webernicke4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Because it's only sexist if the men do it

[–]NiceGuyNumber40 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy

Lol saying it's just the men that are sexist. Is irony completely lost on you?

[–]poppy_bluBeware the freight train0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy

so you admit there are plenty of sexist men on PPD?

[–]NiceGuyNumber40 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

There are plenty of sexist people everywhere. You only respond to questions with questions and try to win arguments with low-bar "gotcha" attempts.

You used to be fun, poppy.

[–]poppy_bluBeware the freight train0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

You were never fun

[–]NiceGuyNumber40 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Lol no u

[–]rus9384Misanthrope-1 points0 points  (26 children) | Copy

Is reddit mostly women?

[–]poppy_bluBeware the freight train6 points7 points  (25 children) | Copy

The “overt sexism” is mainly coming from the men.

Give me one example of sexism from a female poster here.

[–]StreetEntry2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

I doubt you even think one can be sexist towards men.

[–]poppy_bluBeware the freight train2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

And you’d be wrong

[–]StreetEntry0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I doubt it given your replies here.

[–]GalliendI simply live with the pain2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy

Give me one example of sexism from a female poster here.

Jesus, really? Like, really really? You cannot be serious.

[–]poppy_bluBeware the freight train2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

Meaning you can’t?

[–]GalliendI simply live with the pain1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Meaning I can but I don't like calling people out in public.

We have self-proclaimed femcels here, "pink-pillers", women who call men "moids", etc.

I simply don't give a damn about them, but I am just genuinely flabbergasted that you can think that way.

[–]Plopolok0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

There was a post literally saying "women are better people than men" just yesterday.

[–]poppy_bluBeware the freight train0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Must have got zapped because I don’t see it

[–]Plopolok0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

No, it's still there:

https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/daua9t/women_are_not_less_empathetic_and_more/

"Women are better" is not in the title, but in the post:

When I say that women are better people than men, people think I'm trolling, but I mean it literally.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy

Well, I won't, but your idea that all men should leave is weird.

[–]poppy_bluBeware the freight train1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy

Read that again and see if you get it this time.

[–]rus9384Misanthrope0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

You said if the men leave PPD won't be banned.

Do you mean red pilled men under "the men"? Also, incels?

[–]HIJKelemenoP1 point2 points  (13 children) | Copy

That’s all subjective. What is bullying vs teasing? Harassment vs strong opinions? What is sexism?What is racism?

[–]NockerJoeKing Hater3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Whatever the mods want. There's not exactly a fair arbitration system or any pretense of one. Reddit is one of the most heavily censored sites out there and everyone outside Reddit already knows it.

[–]HIJKelemenoP3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

True. All social media is left leaning. Sad and unfortunate.

[–]Ofourkind1 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy

That's up to the website to define

[–]HIJKelemenoP0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy

Do you think it should be banned? Why?

[–]Ofourkind0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy

If they broke the rules, then they should be banned. I'm not familiar enough with that sub to know whether or not they did so.

I fully believe that any private website is free to limit content however they wish.

[–]HIJKelemenoP1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy

I agree. Also, they haven’t broken any rules. They just don’t follow the leftist narrative of reddit.

[–]Ofourkind0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

According to the people who make the rules, they did.

Again, private websites can have whatever guidelines or agenda they wish.

[–]HIJKelemenoP2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

According to the leftist narrative yes.

[–]Salty-Bastardjust an excitable boy1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Said every fascist ever...

[–]Ofourkind0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

"I believe thar private platforms should be free to create and enforce whatever guidelines/content/agenda they wish"

"fucking fascist"

LOL

[–]SILENTSAM69-1 points0 points  (14 children) | Copy

They banned other unrelated men's groups making them flood into TRP. This is what likely is causing the unwarranted shutdown of TRP.

Reddit is becoming worse and worse lately. Honestly, while we need moderators, it tends to be the moderators that are worse than the admins.

Edit: Funny that they do not seem so angry about r/RedPillWomen. They are two sides of the same conversation.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Lol if you think RPW taking about lipstick and baking is anywhere near as distasteful to the general public and advertisers.

[–]SILENTSAM691 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

They talk about a lot more than you think at RPW. Also I do not care about the subjective idea of what is distasteful.

With TRP it seems it was more about rumors of what is talked a out than what is actually talked about over there.

Except for the angry MGTOW and incel types who flooded in there when their groups were banned you don't see much of the angry stuff there. Except for the guys who needed a safe space to vent after having something horrible happen to them.

[–]HellenicLadyNo Pill0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy

RedPillWomen doesn't promote hatred and quasi-rapey attitudes...

[–]Red__Blue2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You’ve been convicted for quasi-rape for asking a woman out on the street, do you have any words before receiving your sentence?

[–]SILENTSAM690 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy

Neither does TRP. TRP is always telling guys to not sleep with girls who play hard to get even. No means no is what TRP tells guys. If a girl says no, go find a different girl.

As I said,people respond to rumors about TRP as they have little idea what TRP is actually about.

Edit: they also in no way promote hatred. It's just that some are angry. Angry feminists do not promote hatred. Some men and women just have good reason to be angry sometimes.

[–]tnais 1 points [recovered]  (8 children) | Copy

If a girl says no, go find a different girl.

What? This is the 2nd-highest-upvoted TRP post of all time. It tells men that if she says no, then they should keep trying because she's just testing your masculinity

[–]SILENTSAM690 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

The removed comment? I don't see what you are talking about.

That said there is a lot of truth to that. Women like to play hard to get, and many say that they want a guy to persist.

That said TRP tends to tell guys to not do that. Cherry picking particular comments doesn't mean that is the message of TRP. The sidebar is the real message.

[–]tnais 1 points [recovered]  (6 children) | Copy

The removed comment? I don't see what you are talking about.

No, I'm talking about the OP:

#1. You approach her, say hi, and she makes a weird face, or pretends to ignore you. Simply keep talking as if you expect her to talk back.

#2. You’re talking to a girl and she acts indifferent or aloof, only gives you one word answers, or keeps looking off into the distance Again, you simply have to ENDURE IT. Keep talking

#3. You’re talking to a girl and she leaves to go to the bathroom, says “I have to go find my friends”, or runs away for no apparent reason. Let her go. Then re-approach her later.

#4. If you’re talking to a girl and she tells you outright that you should leave, or says “well, you should go back to your friends”, “it was nice meeting you”, etc. Smile, nod, agree, and then continue talking to her as if she said nothing.

That said there is a lot of truth to that. Women like to play hard to get, and many say that they want a guy to persist.

Yes-- and those examples he gives aren't examples of women playing hard to get; they're examples of women who aren't interested.

That said TRP tends to tell guys to not do that. Cherry picking particular comments doesn't mean that is the message of TRP. The sidebar is the real message.

Disagree-- this is the 2nd-highest-upvoted TRP post of all time. Clearly its message resonates with its users, or else it wouldn't be so popular. If it were a cherry-picked comment, it would have single-digit upvotes and be buried among all the other threads.

[–]SILENTSAM690 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

That is all advice I have heard from women as well. Many like persistence. The problem is that you have to be able to tell when the rejection is hard, or simple playing hard to get.

Lately TRP has moved more towards the message of walking away from women playing hard to get. I have seen women get upset when I stopped perusing them after they said no.

It is a cherry picked post. You ignore all the more recent posts about ignoring those girls. Lately the message is that there are a lot of women, and to go for the ones who know what they want.

[–]tnais 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy

That is all advice I have heard from women as well. Many like persistence. The problem is that you have to be able to tell when the rejection is hard, or simple playing hard to get.

Yes, you should be able to tell, on a visceral level, whether or not a woman wants you to persist based on her nonverbal signals. I'd argue that the men who read TRP fall into at least one of the following three categories:

  1. They never receive these signals to begin with because they are unattractive

  2. They receive and recognize these signals, but they never act on them due to self-confidence issues

  3. They're atypical and can't recognize the signals if they receive them

Lately TRP has moved more towards the message of walking away from women playing hard to get. I have seen women get upset when I stopped perusing them after they said no.

Why did you stop pursuing them? Did you mistake their coyness for disinterest?

Lately the message is that there are a lot of women, and to go for the ones who know what they want.

Women playing hard to get know what they want. They want you, but they enjoy the "dance" and sexual tension leading up to sex, rather than just jumping right into it.

[–]SILENTSAM690 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Your three categories are funny. It's just your prejudice and hatred that prevents you from really thinking about the issues.

TRP said to stop perusing women who play hard to get because women are not worth the false rape charges. There are plenty of women who want sex without a game. So do not play that game.

Ha, no, we do not like the dance. It is just something some women require. Those wen are not worth our time.

[–]tnais 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

Your three categories are funny. It's just your prejudice and hatred that prevents you from really thinking about the issues.

Feel free to elaborate as to why you think that, or to give examples that I failed to mention.

TRP said to stop perusing women who play hard to get because women are not worth the false rape charges.

What?? Why are you afraid of false rape charges? What does that have to do with this discussion?

Ha, no, we do not like the dance. It is just something some women require. Those wen are not worth our time.

Do you feel emasculated when women make you wait?



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