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Why do I prefer to hit on less attractive girls?

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September 26, 2019

Everytime I go out I will subconsciously hit on less attractive girls more. For example I will go to two girls and logically I should be hitting on the hotter one of the two of them but I always hit on the less hotter one of them. (Maybe I think its easier? Or the hot girl is out of my league?)

Anyone else notice the same thing? I find hot girls to be intimidating

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Title Why do I prefer to hit on less attractive girls?
Author Throw83736282
Upvotes 115
Comments 90
Date 26 September 2019 05:48 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]ComfyBiscotti176 points177 points  (43 children) | Copy

Its also called Juggernaut theory

thats why so many ugly fatty girls have huge egos cuz they sometimes get hit on more than stacy

[–]Throw83736282[S] 37 points38 points  (36 children) | Copy

Yeah, I have been rejected by too many 6's to want to hit on 7's.

Is there a way to get over this? Do I just have to hit on the 8, 9, 10's vs the 5 and 6s?

[–]_Ulan_80 points81 points  (20 children) | Copy

Treat the 8, 9 like a 5. Not like "pretend" but really do treat her like she is more ugly than her friend, and that's why you hit on her.

If you go thinking "she's an 8 I might be lucky" this is not going to help you.

[–]Yoasted37 points38 points  (7 children) | Copy

They are 1’s and 0’s. You either want to fuck them or you don’t. Treat all the 1’s the same whether they’re a 7 or a 10.

[–]Heybuddyyyyyy1 point2 points  (11 children) | Copy

What about the 10?

[–]_Ulan_31 points32 points  (10 children) | Copy

You underestimate what a 10 is. You've probably not been close to one in a while. We'll talk about 10s once you bedded Margot Robbie

[–]Heybuddyyyyyy39 points40 points  (1 child) | Copy

Your mom was a 10 after a few drank's suckaaaa

[–]_Ulan_15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

If she was, she wouldn't have been kicked out of the house : )

[–]escapethesolarsystem1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Margot Robbie

I wanted to say you are wrong because I don't particularly like blonds. But I looked over the pictures, and you are objectively correct from a pure aesthetic sense, no doubt. I would guess that she's perfect golden ratio or something, ridiculous.

[–]_Ulan_3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't think she's a real blond anyway

[–]rygent_square1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Nah, she has busted feet

[–]liquorbaron-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

She's considered a 10? Fuck and here I am thinking she's not all that. This is why I hate the 1-10 scale.

[–]_Ulan_6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

At least status-wise, she is a top Hollywood actress and that does make a difference. A hot girl who works at a massage parlour is not that hot status-wise.

[–]liquorbaron0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Oh I agree and don't get me wrong I'd fuck her if given the chance. Just didn't think she was a 10. Maybe an 8 or 9. Like I said this is why I dislike the 1-10 scale for women. Really needs to just be would you fuck or not.

[–]lookoutitscaleb5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's why the 1 - 0 scale is preferred. Everyone has their own taste.

[–]DiosJ10 points11 points  (9 children) | Copy

Just hit on the most attractive one. If you do this you can only profit by it. Either it works or you get rejected and the other girls might see your huge balls going for a 10. Also you lose your aa easier.

[–]i-am-the-prize3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

yup. they are watching, more than you know.

[–]MonkMode20191 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy


[–]DiosJ4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

Aproach anxiety

[–]Highfy4201 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Fuck sake. Everyone is so fucked you can't do anything without being psycho analysed by these bitches. Even doing nothing

[–]lookoutitscaleb2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Even not playing the game is a form of playing the game.

So do you wanna be a bitch or do you wanna win?

[–]Highfy4200 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Of course I wanna win but its hard I have anxiety disorder I get regular panic attacks and women tend to trigger them. I think I need to work on them issues first

[–]bionix90-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Have you seen A Beautiful Mind? This can definitely backfire. No woman wants to be a consolation prize.

[–]DiosJ4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yea i think it depents on the women and her confidence

[–]lookoutitscaleb2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah let's use movies to draw our world view from instead of experience. Since you know, movies are real life.

[–]Maarko2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]eroticmangoo-2 points-1 points  (3 children) | Copy

Just a reminder that women are not numbers on a hot or not scale (:

[–]lookoutitscaleb4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Correct. They are notches on my belt and trophies to put on my mantel to impress all the other women that are so lucky to be added to my collection.

[–]Maarko-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]Maarko-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

What? Yes they are... *confused look*

[–]vondoom9001 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Haha great band name that.

[–]Monkitail1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Til Stacy’s mom did not have it goi g on

[–]11-Eleven-110 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Does this apply to guys to? Sometimes I'll go out with people and my friends just start getting hit on or girls will straight up ask for their number. These are guys that don't lift and have no style and thats never happened to me except for maybe 1 time.

[–]Maarko0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


[–]majani0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This story needs more context. What's the local SMP like? Are you in a STEM heavy location that skews the male average downwards or something?

[–]jackandjill22-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol not from me they don't.

[–]thrwy7547962 points63 points  (4 children) | Copy

I find hot girls to be intimidating

So you know why.

Also, it can sometimes work in your favour in that if the hot one's attracted to you, she'll wonder why you're not hitting on her instead, and try to seek your attention.

It also helps if you bang the less attractive one as it builds social proof, which gives you an in with the hot one.

[–]dxbfmby20 points21 points  (1 child) | Copy

Dude this is club fucks. You don’t get an ‘in’, you get a ONS and you take the action to dictate whether that’ll be the 8 or the 5

[–]187oddfuture8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Building off this, wouldn’t it be the inverse? You spit game on the 8 and the five in the group wants to compete with her, so you’ve got a good chance of settling for the 5 if the 8 doesn’t work out.

[–]lookoutitscaleb4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

It also helps if you bang the less attractive one as it builds social proof, which gives you an in with the hot one.

From my experience this is dead wrong.

If you go for a group of women, you can flirt with the less attractive ones to build jealousy, but you can't bang the ugly ones. It lowers your value in their eyes. If you bang the baddest bitch you can get the rest of them but not the other way around.

[–]Fallingbed1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Seriously can’t believe the shit I read sometimes . Banging the ugly girl in the group is gonna hurt you more than anything .

[–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (0 children) | Copy

Cause you don't feel you "deserve" the hotter one and are putting her up on a pedestal

[–]1XXXMersenne28 points29 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ego defence mechanism: As long as you don't do it, you don't know if you suck or not.

The possibility that you could if you tried is a more secure thought than the reality that you won't try because you think you probably can't.

If we look at an even bigger picture here it gets funnier because you actually could, IF you felt 100% entitled to it. Hot girls fuck all sorts of sleazy, drug-dealing douches all the time if you don't 'blow yourself out' in the interaction by giving away signs that she's someone you're not used to being around, she'll get the message that you fuck girls on her level (or higher if you're sub-communicating your assessment of her after a clear assumption of attraction on your part).

Feel the fear and do it anyway, you've let it erode your mental capital enough so you might as well clear the confusion by focusing on interacting with the more attractive girls. You'll get comfortable with it soon enough and cringe at the sheer self-deception of your past thought loops.


[–]Schhwing12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

self confidence. Once you think you deserve hot women you'll hit on them and be surprised by your success.

[–]dirkberkis54 points55 points  (6 children) | Copy

You... answered your own question.

But yes, in fact its so common, its caused a major inflation of value to otherwise low-value women. This effectively gives them more power in the market almost by siphoning it from... well, the millions of men in your shoes.

You need to go for what you want. Low hanging fruit is for monkeys. Is you a monkey nigga?

[–]Maarko5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Best comment ever

[–]Throw83736282[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Yeah but im pretty average SMV can I really pull a 8 9 10 with good game?

[–]dirkberkis15 points16 points  (2 children) | Copy

You can not fuck a 4.

[–]Throw83736282[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

What do you mean by this? Generally I only fuck 5-6.5

[–]dirkberkis15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

I mean you can pretend everything under a 7 isnt a woman but just another person. Thats how low-value men are seen except for us its everyone under 8.

So start going for what you really want. Get outta your comfort zone.

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[–]mymindislikeaseive10 points11 points  (5 children) | Copy

Okay, I read this sub and other associate trp stuff, but I'm old and in a different world altogether these days than most of the folks on this sub but here's my experience:

In my youth, I slept with a lot of women. Many one night stands, several short relationships, etc. I can't say I was as enlightened and woke as I could have been. There was no red pill back then. Alpha was not a term, nor was beta, or anything like that. Some of what TRP focuses on, we figured out on our own, but IME, if there's one thing I found it's that the hottest women were typically the worst in bed. My theory is that they never really had to try that hard. They were desired, idolized, and hounded for their appearance; they didn't have to work much at reciprocity, or much else.

However, the 6's, 7's, and 8's were typically more ravenous in bed. Sucking, fucking, bouncing, and fingering in all manner of ways. ...with enthusiasm! It was like somehow they knew "If I'm going to keep this guy interested, I'd better be able to suck his prostate out his dick. Or maybe they were just a bit starved for sex? I dunno, but the patter was there. We would usually find a table full of women where the hot ones were being orbited by most of the guys, and we'd simply turn and focus on the butt-hurt women who were not getting the attention. It worked so many more times than I can count.

Often though, we'd find as soon as we did that the hot chick who was stringing her orbiters along for the nightly ego-boost would drop everything and focus on these guys (us) who were more interested in her "lesser" friends than herself. We didn't call them that, but 'shit tests' would be thrown across the table more from the affronted "hot girl" than from the targeted 6, 7, and 8's. Passing the shit test or not, we found we had to be committed to the beta girls, or the table was lost. The betas would be miffed if we turned our attention to their "hot friend" - they were tired of that, clearly. On at least a couple of occasions, we were gently asked by the beta's "are, ...aren't you interested in my friend Karen?", we'd make it known that "she's probably lousy in bed anyway". This usually got a giggle and seemed to be a gauntlet being thrown down for them to show us just how good they were in bed, compared to their popular friend.

I slept with more than a few "Super model" types, and NONE of them stood out in the sex department (actually scratch that, just 1 actually she was the center fold for Easy Rider magazine - she was a tiger in the sack too! A rare exception to the rule!). The sex I think back on when I'm walking down "mammary lane" is usually with average looking girls who would screw with reckless abandon. The absolute best sex I ever had was with an average looking girl. Unassuming, and quiet. Smaller tits. Sort of pear shaped body. But what she could do in bed was nothing short of mystifying. Uncontrollable orgasms that left me feeling like I just shat myself. Sex with this woman was almost a physical addiction for a while. Not exactly the attitude TRP encourages, but ...damn!

In addition, myself and my wingmen would target older women more often because they were almost always much better in bed anyway. They knew what they wanted, they were not afraid to take it either. They worried less about the 'shame' of sex and just "fucked".

From what I understand this may not be the case nowadays, but back in the 80's and 90's it was most definitely a pattern. 90's got a bit harder thanks to AIDS, and other fears.

...sigh, I miss those days! I wish I knew what I know now and could go back and apply it to so many more women! There's simply never enough women is there?

[–]SerialATA_Killer1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

*simply never enough time

[–]FightGuard0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Do you have any sex advice?

[–]mymindislikeaseive0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Wear a condom, ...always. (Say the last part in Alec Guiness’ voice in your head).

[–]Highfy4200 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Wow that's cool man. I would kill for any of those memories. Hopefully my 30's will bring half the fortune you had

[–]Maarko0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

he was a tiger in the sack too! A


exception to the r


[–]javascript_dev7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Your brain subconsciously assesses chances of success in the background, so this is not entirely some kind of self defeatign tactic

[–]MiZiSTiK7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

What's the point of making a whole thread when you literally answered your own fucking question lmao

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why do I prefer to hit on less attractive girls?

Perceived to be easier.

Most men will hit on the least attractive girl they can bear to fuck, to maximise their chances of success and minimise the pain of rejection.

I find hot girls to be intimidating

I think that rather answers your question.

[–]troyohchatter3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

It was never about intimidation for me. it was more of, if a woman had a choice between taking another wack at her eye shadow and hair or snuggling with her dog, I want the one that is snuggling with her dog. I want the one that eats the cookie, or relaxes with coffee, maybe keeps her car in good shape. The looks thing, when you see some of these super hot people, they are letting other items in their life lapse. That's just the way I have always felt about it. Even if a girl is in super good shape or has the natural shape, if she's not spending huge time getting her hair together or whatever, that's okay too. One learns as they age, the things that make someone special are of the heart and brain, not physical appearance.

[–]SomeAverageChap2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It could be psychological. If you have ugly parents or the people who you grew up with/befriended were ugly, you could just find that you're more comfortable and naturally attracted to less attractive people.

[–]jrr6415sun2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Because you think they’re easier and have low confidence

[–]flyinghorse11 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Same. I prefer normal looking women, in general. The turks have a curse 'may you have daughters and may they be beautiful*.' The gist being that beautiful people are usually difficult and lure in trouble.

*its a very bad translation but that's a basic version.

[–]papunigga0311 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Pedestalization from a deep belief you are lesser and not good enough

If you are a man, you are good enough. You don’t need to be a badass alpha all the time. You just need to be a man.

[–]macheagle1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s because you are deep down insecure of your own self-esteem, and internally and subconsciously recognize that the lower HB girl is “well within your reach” as a potential mate. Essentially, who you hit on is a direct reflection of the SMV score you give yourself.

Work on your own self-esteem and I am sure you will be getting signals from higher HBs as well.

[–]alvarocame1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

you just being logical and sensible. the hot girl might be most expensive to maintain, if you are above her two or three points she is gonna be heels over knees to please you, you doing good

[–]Slut_Slayer90001 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

If all men only fucked girls with high enough SMV for them to date we could reset the market, the problem is horny bastards will dip way below their league to get their rocks off, there by inflating that girls value.

Men really always need to date a girl below his SMV for both parties to be happy (him in control, her submitting to him). Girls won't submit to a guy below her SMV.

[–]popsickkle1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

100% same here. The hotter one is usually realistically unattainable or is very aware of her status and will just be a pain in the ass to game and much less receptive

[–]KillaJewels1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Tbh I hit on both hot girls and less attractive girls. Less attractive girls are more likely to work harder for your attention, lower maintenance, have less ego, more submissive, etc. Less attractive girls are less likely to show their crazy colors. Hot girls tend to be entitled, arrogant, high maintenance, more drama, less loyal, more games.

Hot girls are great as plate material. But for an LTR or marriage type joint, I’d recommend screening values/character more than looks. If she’s got looks and values (hits your blueprint), you’ve found a unicorn.

[–]TooManyThots0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Bro I'm so deep I find less attractive girls more attractive.

I'm no male model so I know most blonde girls are going to look over me or give me insane shit tests, or straight out rejection.

The quirky girls are way more into me and everything is much better. Their attitude, the interaction and even the sex.

[–]deathhandmachiavelli0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I actually appreciate the existence of guys like you.

You eliminate yourselves form the competition for the hot girls.

Thanks bruh!

[–]deathhandmachiavelli0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I've hit up on girls of different levels of attraction.

You aren't any more likely to get rejected just because the girl is hotter.

Ugly girls will reject you about as often as hot girls, maybe even more, so they can boost their self esteem with one of the many guys who are brave enough to talk to them, (those same guys being too insecure to hit on hot girls).

MOST guys are intimidated by hot girls, so those of us who DO hit on hot girls are a select few, and the hot girls tend to reciprocate because of our BALLS.

Hot girls aren't for the weak. Most guys can't handle hitting on them and can't handle dating them either.

I've hit on some average-ugly girls, and end up rejecting it either way, if she likes me, who the fuck cares. If she doesn't it sucks getting rejected by an uggo.

When I hit on a hot girl, I never regret it, and actually have a better percentage with 8-10s than I do average or ugly girls.

[–]SolidLiquidGasPlasma0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

How do you treat them like their uglier if you’re making eye contact, if you start checking them out they’ll think they’re hotter than you and move on in the conversation

[–]escapethesolarsystem0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you find hot girls intimidating, that means you're subconsciously asking yourself the question "what the hell would she ever see in me?" A few things:

  1. The man typically will always be the uglier one anyways
  2. You have no clue what weird combination of things she finds attractive, beyond the basic masculine / alpha traits
  3. You have a confidence problem and need to sort it out; you think there's something about you that's not good enough, and you should either get over it (if it's something you can't change) or fix it (if it's something you can)

[–]ChadTheWaiter1000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You do this Bc you can’t man up and go for what you want. You settle for what you believe is easier.

[–]Sendmeloveletters0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I always talk to the less attractive but I don’t flirt, I just am my normal charming self. The hot ones will always engage me themselves. That’s when I flirt with everyone but the hot ones get longer eye contact than everyone else.

[–]Houston2NYC0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sorry I can’t help you with this inquiry. But thanks for bringing it to our attention.

[–]snaptogrid0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you're enjoying yourself, what's the problem?

[–]Kn310 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

First filter for looks then filter for personality lastly for values

[–]IXseed0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Everyone finds hot girls intimidating. I remember watching some 21 studios vid where a guy who's banged pro models says a good amount of them end up being Lesbians because a majority of guys they work with are gay and the ones that would cold approach em on the street think they're so hot that they can't be single. So the models themselves end up feeling lonely and unwanted to they just turn to girls.

Use this to your adv. Realize that if there's a 10 there that night that she's most likely gonna not get hit on as much if at all. She'll shit test hard in the beginning, but once you pass that, you're money.

[–]MeansToABenz-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Your smv is low due to not enough practice or simply your smv being low. Therefore, increase your smv

[–]Maarko-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Because men have hypogamy.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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