U.S Dating market from a Latino perspective

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September 20, 2019

This is not really a question, I just want to share what I think in this sub and see your opinions about it. I'm a latino in his late 20s, I've been living most of my life in my latin country and right now I've been in USA for a few weeks visiting and I want to give you my perspective about the dating market in the US

I'm not your typical Alpha latino guy who is extremely skilled dancer and goes to dancing places every weekend and all girls know him, or that other alpha latino who is into smelly business and has 20 chains hanging on his neck and all bad bitches love, but I think that I've been lurking around long enough to have a good understanding of most of the red pill concepts and I've actually successfully used a lot of them in real life, specially the abundance mentality mindset.

The dating marketing in US is very skewed against man, it's confusing and complicated. Brother, whoever is reading, it's not like this in other countries, believe me, I've tried to analize the whole dating scene from ground up and it's incredible how difficult it is to actually score for an average guy here in the US. Back when I was blue pilled, it was hard, but I could still score from time to time a decent looking girl for my SMV at that time, I thought it was hard there, but now that I visit the US I understand many things that you need to live in order to believe them.

The dating market is WAY better and easier for a variety of reasons:

  • The culture of endless discussion and debate(I found this online, and this is gold): American culture is based on endless and endless talks, discussions and debates. Turn on the TV and you’ll be greeted by talk show after talk show consisting of people discussing all kinds of things. If it’s a news program, then the endless talk will about current events. If it’s a political talk show, then they’ll discuss politics, economics or foreign policy to death. As a result of this information overload, most women you meet in America have already formed various opinions on a wide range of issues.

  • Flirting vs. formally discussing sexual topics(also from the internet): There’s a huge difference between flirting and merely discussing sexual topics. I hatetalking about sex with someone on such a politically correct level that it feels like we’re discussing America’s foreign policy.

When I went out and talked to women tt felt completely unnatural to drop the discussion and transition into emotional flirting. I couldn’t force her to flirt: I couldn’t force her to do what she wasn’t comfortable doing. You can try touching her, being a little flirtatious to try to make her uncomfortable, but for a lot of girls here it just won't work, a normal girl would blush and get excited and shy about it, or at least get a little uncomfortable, but to my surprise she boldly began sharing her opinions on this subject as thought she had discussed exactly this topic countless times before.

So, what’s the problem, you may ask? It’s the fact that I wanted to genuinely flirt—flirt without all the politically correct bullshit on subjects that have already been discussed ad naseum—but I couldn’t

For the average guy that doesn't really have any outstanding attributes, I imagine it must be extremely frustrating not to be able to have a girl, if you add the fact that prostitution is ilegal here(so you never learn to be dominant or have sexual experience), it's an extremely uncomfortable situation.

I was able to score here in the US, but not as easily as latin and european countries, here things are way against man, also expectations are unrealistic here and I think they've made it so hard that it's completely worthless.

To be honest if I"d live here I think I'd become 100% mgtow(I'm only at 80%) very quickly because here in the US going after girls is pointless UNLESS you are in the top 5%(which is a genetic lottery), look I'm 6 foot tall, I workout often and don't look bad, but you cannot compete with bradpitt looking face, 7 figures salaries and steroid use together, you simply cannot, period.

Just share your opinions!!

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Title U.S Dating market from a Latino perspective
Author un_knownguy
Upvotes 57
Comments 30
Date 20 September 2019 10:31 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/288523
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[–]liquorbaron47 points48 points  (4 children) | Copy

Social media has really fucked things up. A girl that's a 5 can end up with tons of thirsty guys willing to dick her so she falsely believes she's a 9 and then she proceeds to act entitled. Quickly becoming a vapid generation of no actual substance or accomplishments.

EDIT: Thank you for the awards.

[–]Jabbermouth17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy

You are 100% right. But also don’t forget dating/swipe apps like Tinder and Bumble. Any girl, even landwhales, can download Tinder TODAY and in a few hours have a line of (often high SMV) dick at her door.

[–]liquorbaron8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oh I wasn't forgetting them. They're included as well. Throw in Instagram, Facebook, Snapchat, even Reddit as there are a lot of women that post nude on subs to build up a clientele of followers, etc. and these women have access to as much attention as they want. Tinder and exclusive dating sites are only for if they want to go through extra steps. Some monetize it ("buy my premium snapchat" they'll say) while others use it to ride the Chad cock carousel. Still others use Instagram to prostitute themselves out to Middle Eastern clients willing to drop money on them and fly them out to the Middle East to get gang fucked and then shat on in exchange for money and some Louis Vuitton bags (ever wonder why so many of them end up with new handbags after going on vacations?).

The whole thing is a giant clusterfuck for men except for those in the top percentile of smv. This is why the rate of male inceldom is growing and why the ever increasing amount of disenfranchised men is growing. Tie that into big daddy government favoring women in family courts, divorce courts, welfare benefits, etc and you're witnessing what could be another fall of Rome in our lifetime. At the very least things are looking more like debaucherous Berlin before the Nazis came about.

It also doesn't help that religion (majority Christian in the US) has lost its appeal and for those that do "believe" they only go so far as to believe in watered down versions. Wouldn't be much of an issue but religion acts as a glue in keeping societies functioning properly. Fear of God tends keeps the dumbass normies in check since they can't be trusted saving themselves from their own self inflicted destruction. Beta males used to be able to get married and have that contract that their wives wouldn't necessarily be fucking around on them. We all know it still happened but men wouldn't get divorced raped and women were less reluctant to because they'd lose access to resources. Let's not forget that they would also get shamed. Divorcing back in the day made you look like a leper within society's standings. So much for all that now.

Just want to note that I'm not whining about it all. I've accepted it for it is what it is. Your options are you can not participate in it (MGTOW, blackpill, do your own thing<---- you SHOULD be doing this no matter what, etc) or you can participate in it and either exploit it or recognize it for the clown ride that it is at the moment. Personally I've started to view it as a pendulum swinging; once it goes so far in one direction it tends to go just as far in the other direction at some point.

/end rant

[–]DTJ13132 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I had to give you a silver for that comment.

[–]liquorbaron0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thank you kind sir.

[–]ComfyBiscotti35 points36 points  (0 children) | Copy

high iq post from an unbiased outsider from outside usa. good perspective and info.

i agree. its retarded. especially for people under 35, the social skills straight up suck and ppl dont know how to interact. its all about FAKE bullshit, fake social shit, and social media attention/life.

[–]HaroldTFinch6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't date American chicks anymore. Off the list. Siempre latinas

[–]afterthe_fapocalypse3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bro, what an outstanding post. Much love to my latino brother. I worked with many latinos in restaurants over the years, and one thing that always stood out to me was the heart. Your culture is so much more real, and the men stick together. They actually talk to each other and it's not about drugs or video games. It was just like music man, the way I would stop what I was doing and just listen. Such a better world.

I'm shocked to hear that it's easier in other countries. I had thought the US was one of the last places where men can be men. But I stand corrected. And you know, I've traveled elsewhere and been to highly internationalized places in this country ... men from other countries were always more masculine in general I thought. Sure there are pussies everywhere, but the culture of masculinity here is softer and more metrosexual and materialistic. Less spiritual, and by spiritual I mean guided by spirit and what's internal to a man. It's about the show, as you put it, people thinking that an alpha is someone who damages himself with drugs and booze and being a cute asshole.

I'm kind of MGTOW myself. Rollo Tomassi has said numerous times that when a woman becomes man's focal point, his end is nigh. It goes right to the Bible almost, like when Eve stopped following Adam, and when Adam stopped following woman, shit hit the fan. Eve followed the devil, and Adam followed the woman.

Very interesting points you raised. Thanks for writing. Please post more. I love your perspective.

[–]MusicSports7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

I read posts like these and think it's somewhat defeatist. Only being here a few weeks isn't enough to say it's pointless to try if you're not Brad Pitt. I'd say focus on making yourself the best man possible and approach girls you find attractive. Practice game and don't give up on your dreams.

[–]2stoned0jaguar9tre6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Its reality brother, if it wasnt the case we wouldnt even be here.

[–]MusicSports2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's totally reality but i'm 5'5 and a minority and if I believed this I would be a virgin. My N count is still only 3 because I haven't done an approach in months, but this about it's pointless to try if you're not Brad Pitt is just retarded.

[–]InternationalRadish9 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Where would you recommend living or at least checking out for easy lays?

[–]afterthe_fapocalypse1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

well I was at your mom's house the other night ... jk bro

[–]FocusOnYourGoals 1 points [recovered]  (7 children) | Copy

I found the exact opposite. American/Canadian girls are really easy to get in bed with whereas in Europe they require a bit more comfort.

[–]Polojames1235 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy

Canadians treat sex like having a cigarette.

No biggie, no real chats, just 'oh, you're cool, let's have sex, okay, ciao' then you don't have to see them again. No #MeToo, no fuck him, if they had a bad date, or the sex sucked. The girl is like, 'Well, that sucked, not calling him again, I'll hit up Marco", and it's a non-issue.

No threats, no #MeToo, no in 25 years they'll claim that you sexually assaulted them. They just take it as is...

My friend got no pussy in America, was a Virgin until at least 24-26, and now he gets a decent amount, and he's a fat fuck, just tall (he lost weight, so now he's a chubby fuck, but just tall), it baffles my mind.

I don't have much trouble in America (girls like me), but I don't just 'engage' with them like that. I'm very cautious nowadays.

[–]LunarTears0 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy

Canadian here, false. We are EXTREMELY liberal and women are VERY happy to use the new rule of "if you regret it, it was rape".

I grab women very easily, but still make sure to treat them very nicely afterwards with a few texts waiting for a happy reciprocation the next morning before a block, so I can have proof.

I was hanging at the college with a few friends and JUST got two numbers, planned to call them later, turned back to my friends but they stayed behind me so I overheard them: The one telling the other that she should tell campus security that she was raped... why? Because the man in question promised he'd call her the next day, it had been a week, and he was ignoring her (probably shit in bed). You can remove consent after the fact here.

[–]Polojames1231 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Damn... Well, this is Vancouver, B.C.

I don't know about the rest of Canada(I go there at least twice a month, friends and for business)

[–]AmIDyslexicStoner419 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

I agree with lunar tears. Also I live in Vancouver and have no idea wtf you talking about. Vancouver is so fucking cliquey and all the girls think they are 1-2 points above their SMV because of social media. They all think they deserve better than they do which in turn fucks it for many guys here. It might be a difference of age between me and you which makes the difference (I’m in my early 20s)

[–]Polojames1230 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I don't know, I'm a "Chad", and my friend is like a "fat Chad" type, he was a football player, etc.. (our group is all frat guys and football players) so, maybe it's different for us... I guess it depends, it's way easier than L.A.,I'll tell you that (and that's where I lived for a really long time)

[–]underd0g-0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Honestly man it depends. I just got back from Europe and it's hard to generalize women by culture. I find majority of women are AWALT. The women are definitley more feminine in Europe that's for sure. But from my experience, I say most women are the same in all first world countries.

[–]Granite_Pill 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

I am a gringo, nearly fluent in Spanish, who has lived, worked, and traveled extensively throughout Central and South America and I am here to tell you AWALT.

When it comes to getting laid, all you need to do to get laid is be rich, be attractive, and don't be unattractive, or any combination thereof. In the USA and North America in general, men from the third world are generally viewed by default, and rightly so, as disgusting trash, so those such men will naturally have a more difficult time getting laid in North America.

Hypergamy reigns supreme. AWALT. As a blonde-hair,ed blue-eyed, gringo able to afford a plane ticket to a Latin American country, all the the women there automatically assume I'm rich, so they put out right away. I can pull 8's, 9's, 10's, even 11's and 12's, in Latin America without so much as batting an eye. It's only because they view me as nothing more than a walking, talking ATM machine. Without such an extensive and intrusive welfare state like we have in North America, women in Latin America are still dependent on men to a certain extent. In the USA, I can barely get a woman to give me the time of day and I am in very good shape, combat tested, and pretty good looking, but I come from lowly swamp trash origins. I am nearly invisible to attractive women in North America.

Yet I have seen Latino men slay white pussy on the reg because they obey one or more of the rules I stated above. AWALT.

Also, Western European women are the easiest white women to bed for American men. Why? Hypergamy.

[–]un_knownguy[S,🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I agree, as a latino man it's harder to score in the US, specially white girls.

[–]HaroldTFinch0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

It's definitely easier all around but I find more women with something to say, nicer to be around. Feminine. Just avoid the extra jealous. When a Latina tells you she may be a little jealous it's a lot.

In the US you find more crazy chicks with rainbow hair and a thousand tattoos and a an attitude than you do good ones.

[–]liquorbaron0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Go on Okcupid in the Northeast and you will see half of them.

[–]lbrownlbandit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I would post this on trp, this is actually gold

[–]krusecontrol910 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thank you dude. Appreciate this post

[–]ControlBlue0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Good field report!

This actually belongs in TRP tbh.

[–]Kabuki4310 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Just another perspective, i was recently traveling to another city. Short on time and instead of gaming i decided to go the escort route. Even the flabby penguin bodied hooker were asking $500/hr, even though they clearly worked minimum wage jobs.

[–]ModTheRedPike0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

ASKtrp maybe tidy it up a bit and put it on the main sub.

[–]RicoDunne-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why does everyone come on here and say they can't compete unless they are some kinda superman? There are simply not enough supermen out there for all the women, so they will be going out with someone.

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