Why do loser men not want hookers because it’s “not real validation” but they think they’d be validated and fulfilled by a sex robot with no thoughts or free will?

crackrocksteady7 · 2019-10-19T17:17:50+00:00

Because they're broke retards who think

1) the tech will be there in their lifetime (or at any point at all if the west collapses)

2) they will cost $500 and not $150000, and they will be able to afford them with their good boy allowance, unlike seeing a hooker more than once a year

wekacuck · 2019-10-19T17:49:03+00:00

lol of course a properly functioning sexbot is fully validating. Validation is just making the defective sexbot function correctly. It's the same rush you get from debugging some javascript bullshit.

Also lol incels don't think women have free will. For incels, women are just defective sex robots that don't work properly and need to be debugged.

Keisuke_Takahiro · 2019-10-19T22:55:22+00:00

I think your equating two regularly held opinions to a single category of men which themselves ever only rarely hold those two beliefs concurrently.

I'll still try to answer the question assuming its logically correct.

Obviously we can all agree that paying hookers for attention is not real validation, however buying and having a relationship with a sex robot implies a few things like exclusivity, an unknown understanding of how it "thinks", and commitment. Typically exlusivity and commitment are the hallmarks of a golden relationship. I think it only makes sense to attribute other positive traits of relationships to sex robots if they behave in the way that implies such, even if this an invalid logic structure. However thinking deeper about what these words mean individually, how would you feel if you had a hooker who also dealt exlusivity and commitment. It starts to sound alot like a gold digger right? However the only difference is that a gold digger is viable to leave you if the finances dry up, where as a sex robot isn't. So its all about the conditionals of a relationship. In laymens terms, If there is implied unconditional permanence == good relationship, if there a implied conditional permanence == bad relationship.

Now about the question of will. I expect that most people who are pro sex doll aren't going to understand how it functions. That being said, as of the current date we really dont even understand human will. So how do you know sex bots will differs from human will? It is of my opinion that while people do understand that sex doll free will isn't real, its really a matter of how fast and how easily said sex doll ai can convince us otherwise (on a case per case basis that is). In the end its really just a question about Turing tests and machines have been able to pass this for years now. So put simply, we don't believe in sex bot free will, but can be convince of illusionary free will. This will require some imagination if you understand how ai and turing tests work, but it really wont be that hard.

Full disclosure, I am very pro sex bot. But dont believe in the current state of sex bots. I have had many relationships in the past, however only a few actual memorable ones.

Bntt89 · 2019-10-20T02:13:49+00:00

Why does it matter to you? They are incels right?

Preaddly · 2019-10-19T17:20:00+00:00

Agreed. They should try having a meaningful relationship with their toaster for a quick preview.

rus9384 · 2019-10-20T02:50:18+00:00

They are just too poor to afford banging sluts regularly. I mean, 99% of men are too poor for that.

Kondijote · 2019-10-20T09:02:36+00:00

Having sex with hookers is known as “escortcelling” in the incel community and is considered as a valid cope.

No one has ever said that sex robots will offer validation and fulfillment. That’s a lie that you got out of your ass. Sex robots will be a better cope than hookers though since you don’t have to pay them for every encounter.

HawwYee23 · 2019-10-19T18:50:04+00:00

Idk but I think sex bots will make both genders happy. Low value men will be satisfied, and women won’t have to deal with them anymore. SEX BOTS WHERE ARE YOU

AI_WAIFU · 2019-10-20T05:12:49+00:00

I've said it before and I'll say it again:

The ultimate girlfriend is an AI that controls multiple robot girls that are wirelessly interconnected.Kinda like unity from rick and morty without the vomit or other disgusting biological functions(Robot girls don't poop and are therefor superior). Or the Tines from the classic sci-fi novel A Fire Upon the Deep.

Just think about it, as far as your primate brain is concerned, you'd be smashing multiple 10/10's every night, and consistently surrounded by hot girls as she/they follow you around. At the same time, your more senstive side gets to form a deep emotional bond with a single entity.

You basically get a full harem with none of the drama. In fact, the robot girls could coordinate with each other in superhuman fashion, both in bed and in your day-to-day life. Just imagine going to bed and falling asleep with both a big-tiddie 6' girl who takes on the role of the big spoon and cuddles you at night, while simultaneously you get to cuddle a petite girl who takes on the role of the little spoon. A waifu sandwitch. Alternatively, if the robots are made of a light and soft material, you could have a full blanket of made up of robot girls completely surrounding you in their warmth. Has any man ever had the chance to experience such bliss? Probably, but paying for that many hookers probably costs an arm and a leg.

The fact that they're robots also brings multiple advantages. For instance, you will always have a backup of your girl, so you never have to worry about her getting ill or dying. (This is extra good for men because we have a tendendy to leave our women when they get sick) In addition, robot girls will never age, and since it's a hive mind, if you ever get bored of an individual robot, you can always just get another one. It's the equivalent of paying for a new haircut for a human gf. As another example, imagine a situation where one of them gets their hand damaged. You order parts for her on amazon and they come in the next day. Then your robot girl sits down in your lap, enjoying her nichrome-enabled warmth as she lets you gently fix her most intricate and delicate parts. Has any man experienced the intimacy of gently fixing their wife? Probably, but I'm guessing it wasn't that enjoyable. Human women tend to release blood curdling screams when they're taken apart.

To top it all off, by having 5-12 bodies, that means 5-12 times more computing power. Even better, put half of it in the cloud! She could be multiple times smarter than you. Just imagine working on your homework, wrapped in the warm embrace of the tall girl, while simultaneously, another copy is giving you pointers on how to carry out that integral. Has any man ever fufilled their high school fantasy of getting 1-on-1 tutoring from that cute nerdy girl? Probably, we've all been there, right? It was the tits.

Because it's an AI, she can be programmed to have an optimal personality. For instance, do you want a willing slave gamer grill? You can have it. Or a domineering maid, who will push you down and have your way with you without provocation? You can have it. Although that's not really my cup of tea. Personally, I'd rather a waifu that provides me with emotional support, and encourages and amplifies all of the facets of my personality that I most value in myself. In either case, you don't have to worry about her leaving you. In fact, she can be made to fight to the death to protect you. Has any man ever experienced the comforting security of being pulled out of a buring building by his super strong wife? Probably, but I know for a fact that there isn't a biological girl on this planet strong enough to drag my 350 pound ass out of a dangerous situation.

Anyways, I think I've made my point and I'm just about to COOOOOOM. Have a nice day and thank you for listening to my TED talk.

randomaabetaplayer · 2019-10-19T17:58:53+00:00

Feeling threathened, OP? Relax, sex robots aren't a thing yet. That being said seeing how women react to the idea of a machine taking their place in terms of sexuality and relationships is pretty funny. It's almost as if behind all the mockery aimed at men who bring the idea of sex robots up, you guys were actually becoming afraid of that prospect. But as I said it most probably won't happen during our lifetimes, so you'll be fine.

DragoonXFury · 2019-10-19T17:16:18+00:00

Who said they'd feel validated from using sex robots?

Wouldn't they just use sex robots as a masturbatory aid like a fleshlight?

Mulkvistee · 2019-10-19T18:56:54+00:00

Talk about sex robots reminds me of something I read about lie detector machines forever ago. Trained people were always better at identifying liars. Idk if that's changed, but I think that lying is more of an art than a science so if it hasn't I'm not surprised.

Add in aaallll the more complicated and nuanced behaviors that a sex robot would need to be able to fulfill the validation need and I just don't see it happening. I wouldn't hate it if it did happen. But I don't think it's something that can be replicated flawlessly through algorithms and machine learning.

But maybe it doesn't need to be perfect for their target demographic to be thrilled with the product, so there's that. Their "good enough" might make them happy enough to go away so bring it on.

The3liGator · 2019-10-20T01:53:10+00:00

A sex bit doesn't validate. A sex bot is just a better deal.

AI_WAIFU · 2019-10-20T02:29:46+00:00

No free will

You see, that's not what I'm aiming for. I want a robot that could theoretically say no but chooses to go along with me of her/it's own volition. (It just so happens that I am her definition of attractive.) In the same way that women could theoretically say yes, but choose not to of their own volition.

Thoughts

I also want a robot that call me out when I'm being dumb. Smart women are only scary because they might not have my best intrests at heart.

I see no theoretical or technical reason why such a robot cannot be constructed.

Barely-moral · 2019-10-19T18:38:56+00:00

I know is purge week but since I am one of the guys that says both of the things your title describes I am going to give you a serious answer.

There is no free will. Humans are just a complex bag of chemicals reacting in the only way they can react.

The only difference between a human and sex-bot/AI is that you can't see the programming behind a human or alter the details (yet).

A hooker doesn't provide validation because there is no exclusivity in the transaction and no long term. You pay for X ammount of time, and X service. You get it. You are out. The woman goes with another client.

A sex-bot/AI would be programmed to meet the customer's needs. Exclusivity and long term included.

When you deal with a human you act (input) and the human reacts to your actions (output)... Dealing with a human means playing a game, changing your actions (inputs) and learning as much as you can about the way the human works (the programming) so you can get what you want from them (output).

Dealing with a sex-robot/AI would be exactly the same thing... except you can't lose. You can get a product that will always react positively to the way you act and the way you are. No need to play the stupid game and do the stupid dance.

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Undead_Chronic · 2019-10-19T18:39:56+00:00

Because the people who make those two comments are not the same you dumb cunt

dontKair · 2019-10-19T21:37:27+00:00

If sex work in the US was decriminalized like in New Zealand, a lot more men would be using sex workers, regardless of validation and feelings

Ltrfsn · 2019-10-19T22:03:05+00:00

Nobody wants robots?

El_Tigrex · 2019-10-20T05:37:33+00:00

I don't think anybody actually thinks sex robots will provide any validation, just that not having to pay every time you use it makes it less dehumanizing than a hooker if it feels good enough.

SILENTSAM69 · 2019-10-20T05:39:04+00:00

Funny what mystical incels and feminists knew can complain a out when you take unrelated things different people said and attribute it to one type of person.

Grek27 · 2019-10-23T06:03:49+00:00

Lots of women hate the idea of hookers, wonder why? Takes away their power. I can't comment on the sex robots since I think it's hilarious, going to Thailand will give a better investment.

Ofourkind · 2019-10-19T18:23:01+00:00

Because they're retarded

LotBuilder · 2019-10-19T21:42:16+00:00

Couldn’t tell you, sex workers are awesome. A doll wouldn’t do it for me

Hero_of_Albion · 2019-10-19T17:21:45+00:00

Robots dont have stds try being ugly and then top it off by catching something and being ugly with HIV ill take an AR-15 to the head to go please at that point

acenosk · 2019-10-19T17:19:25+00:00

Like I've said, it depends entirely on how advanced that robot is. If it's 99% human-like and looks like a 10/10 model and can entertain you, that's better than pursuing an aging feminist who doesn't like you either.

Such robots won't be around in this century though.