Briffaults law in action - friend kills himself the week following a breakup, his ex gf is fighting his family for his estate money

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October 23, 2019

Sebastian was a gifted scientist. He was a researcher at a prestigious university and had recently established his own pharmaceutical startup commercializing some of his intellectual property. Seb was a smart guy, good looking, but like most intelligent men he didn't know his value.

He was dating Jane, a woman past the wall, somewhat remarkable but nothing spectacular. They lived together for only five months.

Jane thinks Seb works too much, neglects her. She ends it over text, comes over to their apartment to take her shit and appliances. She calls the police and suggests he's been violent and abusive.

We speak daily, I advise him to part ways, don't fight over the toaster, focus on his life mission, she's replaceable.

We go out for a drink and he's getting through it; taking his time.

A day later I'm informed he passed from a medical complication.

His brother confesses that the following night, after alcohol and an endone he simply never woke up.

One of the toughest days of my life was speaking at his funeral, I feel like I failed a brother.

I don't know how he died, but I know how he lived, he was a good man, a dear friend.

It's been almost 6 months and I think of him often. His mother invites me for coffee. She informs me Jane is now fighting for his estate, stating they did not breakup, statuary declaration and all.

He listed her as a spouse on his employment records, and she's now claiming his entire estate, his life insurance and Roth 401k.

His mother wants to reinvest his money back into his research, his life legacy. I've issued a statement and urged his mother to fight this.

We all speak of Briffaults law, but seeing this in action, even after you die is remarkable.

I advise all men here to sort our their trust and will with an estate lawyer and to never live with a woman who is not the mother of your children.

Names changed


Friend has messy breakup, has a big night and never wakes. Girlfriend claims they didn't break up so she's can be awarded his estate.

Sort out your will and estate. Do not live with LTR.

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Title Briffaults law in action - friend kills himself the week following a breakup, his ex gf is fighting his family for his estate money
Author CasaDeFranco
Upvotes 682
Comments 112
Date 23 October 2019 03:11 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]throwlaca267 points268 points  (26 children) | Copy

>She calls the police and suggests he's been violent and abusive.




Doesn't the police get tired of absolutely every single ex-girlfriend calling them to tell them how horrible her ex-bf was?

BTW he probably didn't kill himself. I went through a hard breakup in a particularly shitty period of my life. Suicide was never in my mind but depression plus lack of proper food makes you very vulnerable to diseases. I almost died of a stupid cold.

You should, if it didn't cause you any trouble, help the mother and testify about the breakup. It's horrible that your murderer gets to keep all your money.

[–]youcantdenythat109 points110 points  (2 children) | Copy

Doesn't the police get tired of absolutely every single ex-girlfriend calling them to tell them how horrible her ex-bf was?

some do, but most live to be white knights so love every moment of it

[–]Jourdanis22 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy

At least where I live, they have to follow up everything. Even for obvious prank calls, they have to send someone there and check out if there is trouble.

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (3 children) | Copy

deleted What is this?

[–]surfingjesus20 points21 points  (2 children) | Copy

Should have went to the gym and sweat it out. If you're going to be in pain might as well be a good pain.

[–]2CasaDeFranco[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

The day before he was like, I'll go for a surf, I thought he was doing okay. Then Monday night, this.

When I was informed, I thought it was an April fools joke.

[–]dontbeanasshole7771 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes!!! You can't choose not feel pain, but you can choose the type of pain you will endure. Day has only 24 hours.

[–]largepaycheckaddict18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy

I hear a lot about cops calling bullshit on this type of stuff- and I live in a very liberal state.

[–]thatzombieoverthere15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

If every ex is an abusive asshole, either women are retarded or women are the problem.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon41 points42 points  (10 children) | Copy

Doesn't the police get tired of absolutely every single ex-girlfriend calling them to tell them how horrible her ex-bf was?

No. To them it's further evidence that every single man is abusive and that they need to do more to tackle this massive problem.

[–]some1arguewithme20 points21 points  (5 children) | Copy

Both men and women have a bias in favor of women. The thing about biases is that we don't see our own biases. This is why our civilization will crumble and there's no way to solve this problem. Everyone has a bias in favor of women, And everyone absolutely refuses to see it. These cops love to white knight.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy

Yes, exactly.

The white knighting is in their quotas, and they get criticism for not doing enough to counter misogyny if they haven't locked enough men up this year.

[–]hiroshimatruthbombs13 points14 points  (2 children) | Copy

Duluth Model.

It’s the DV model used by most police forces in North America.

The cops have their hands tied by gynocentric politics and department policies designed to protect women.

Most cops can spot the bullshit but it’s up to the system to judge.

Best advice to avoid the process? - avoid crazy vindictive women.

Tough I know ....... but trust me on this.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

avoid crazy vindictive women.

The problem is that they all seem nice enough at first.

Ultimate solution: never be in a position where she can profit from a false dv charge.

Most women will file dv or false rape charges when they directly benefit from them in some way - either to fake a good reputation (false rape) or to profit (false dv then divorce) or to get control of your house (false dv to make you move out) or get control of the kids.

If the woman has nothing to gain from a false dv charge, she's much less likely to file one.

[–]MRPTriangle6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

further evidence that every single man is abusive

Sure, and 40% of their spouses report domestic violence, so, they're only furthering what they already know, which is that they're assholes.

[–]MatrixofLe3adership2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy


Well in that case, fuck them. The things they see as police officers, give little excuse to not wake the fuck up. They have a much greater opportunity to unplug than others, and if you're saying that many of them don't—well then that's pathetic.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

fuck them ... well then that's pathetic

Doesn't matter what we think, we have to avoid going to jail for crimes we didn't commit.

Your judgements about the police are not relevant to that.

[–]MatrixofLe3adership2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I would hope that is obvious to everyone here.

From an anecdote in The 33 Strategies, on an ancient terrorist group credited with being the very first:

"[They] were patient, disciplined, and had mastered the art of keeping their beliefs to themselves and fitting in anywhere."

Hence, the few brief interactions I've had with police officers in my young life, have gone my way. And I think most of them left with the impression that I really liked and respected them.

[–]2CasaDeFranco[S] 10 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy

She messaged me on his slack after he died, read all our messages and suggested I was poisoning his mind.

She said he would smash glassware and was abusive.

This was only weeks after his funeral where in front of everyone she cried and posted on social media she lost her best friend.

[–]AshyLarry272 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Can none of these text messages about her breaking up with him be used against her in claiming his shit?

[–]2CasaDeFranco[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

I sent them to his mother, she said I cannot include them as advised by her lawyer. I haven't asked my estate planning lawyer for a second opinion but she has copies.

[–]Oculatrix1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You should definitely ask estate planning lawyer.

[–]verumvelfalsum20 points21 points  (1 child) | Copy

Doesn't the police get tired of absolutely every single ex-girlfriend calling them to tell them how horrible her ex-bf was?

The police are simply a State sanctioned gang who enforce State values. If you live in a postmodern liberal democracy, the State gang will enforce postmodern liberal democratic values with no regard for human life. Simple as.

The sooner conservacucks and tradcucks wake up to the reality that there are no good cops that support a system that works tirelessly every day to enforce the oppressive State, the better off we'll all be. Anything beyond is simply an egoistic and/or emotional projection of desired feelings over a brutal and objective reality.

[–]Shadows145576 points77 points  (4 children) | Copy

The bluepill kills, Im so sorry for your friend bro, I really hope his ex gf won't get his money

[–]FPoliticallyCorrect10 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy

Don't know about endone pills color but if blue, it literally did kill him.

[–]Shadows14555 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Falling deeply in love with the wrong girl does not sound redpilled to me

[–]FPoliticallyCorrect3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'm not saying he was RP, no, he was definitely BP and furthermore stupid cause only stupid people mix pills and alcohol.

[–]friendandadvisor0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Even MORE stupid to put her down as his wife on the insurance scam.

[–]Nergaal74 points75 points  (9 children) | Copy

Send your text messages you had with him about the breakup to the mother as evidence.

[–]letsgobish2914 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy

op also claims she ended the relationship via text so there should be further proof there

[–]2CasaDeFranco[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

He sent me the screenshot which I sent to his mother, it can't be used without her permission but I did submit a statuary declaration with our conversation screen cap where he states, he can't believe she ended it over text.

[–]2CasaDeFranco[S] 8 points9 points  (5 children) | Copy

I've already issued a statuary declartion, I can't include the screen shot of their text conversation which he sent without her permission but I could include his response to me.

She’s already issued two statements so she’s prepared.

[–]Nergaal7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

Show it to the lawyer maybe so he can ask the phone company to release the logged text messages. They save them at least for 6 months.

[–]2CasaDeFranco[S] 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

I've already included the text message that I can legally include, the rest is up to the lawyers and his mother's discretion. I'm just a friend so in the end, it's not my business to get further involved.

[–]Nergaal1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

all I was saying is to give a clue to the lawyer to what messages to look for

[–]testable3130 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I can understand your situation that you can't reveal much. It would help us all in this community if we knew 100% for sure that this story was real. It might even change lives of many other people to be more careful.

If you can share more, so we can be sure this is real, it would be really appreciated.

[–]2CasaDeFranco[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I can share more with the mods with his name, details of his death and evidence, but anymore to random members, it would be unwise.

[–]BurnoTaurus63 points64 points  (4 children) | Copy

The mods warn me against saying the sort of things here that I wish to say in reply to this. but rest assured, fuck that bitch

[–]dotslashlife18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’m in the same boat. I can’t say what I want to here.

[–]Plan_o-f_Will15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

Can I just say the word 'rope'? Or is that bannable? I technically didn't say what the rope is for.

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, there is a lot I want to say, but she's a C*NT. All caps for emphasis and that's being very generous to the type of person she is..

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire2148 points149 points  (0 children) | Copy


This reminds me of a female relative nobody talks to.

She drove away her first husband, and several of her children with her toxicity.

Before she drove away my immediate family, she had a boyfriend.

She never liked the guy, but he was useful to her. He drove her places, took her on trips. He was an affable enough guy, but it was clear she looked down on him. When he got older and sickly, she started panicking that she would have to be his nursemaid. She literally stated, "I don't want to be his nursemaid!" Never mind that if you supposedly love someone you are partnered with, playing nursemaid comes with the territory. Fortunately for her, he passed away relatively quickly.

And just like in this case, she immediately did a 180 and was suddenly interested in her "share" of his estate, given that she "did so much" for him when he was old and sickly, though if you ask me, she probably shaved years off of his life with her toxic personality. Fortunately, he had a bunch of children with his previous wife, and they saw through her. I think he left her a token amount, but his kids got most of the money.

[–]Concretefacts33 points34 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dude, what a heartless piece of ... Sad story.

[–]zwembadsniper 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

she ended it via text

Is there any way to get the phone and unlock it?

[–]TheEgyptianConqueror6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

This needs to upvoted to make sure op sees it

[–]Endorsed ContributorRunawayGrain23 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy

One of the toughest days of my life was speaking at his funeral, I feel like I failed a brother.

The same thing happened to a friend of mine. He actually stood up for me when my crazy ex made her false allegations. The only thing you can do here is realize you gave him good information and he made a poor decision. Then remember the good things about him, raise your glass, and keep moving.

[–]hmsthinkingmeat35 points36 points  (1 child) | Copy

The simplest and cleanest solution would be if she suddenly died as well.

Just ruminating.

[–]JihadNinjaCowboy13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

Shit like this is why I told the gf if she wants to spend more time with me, she should sell her house in the future, and move to one closer to my neighborhood, because I refuse to marry or even cohabitate again. Ever.

[–]anti-hypergamist10 points11 points  (5 children) | Copy

You'll have plenty of men jumping down the throats of other men that actually abuse or take advantage of women, whether it's true or not. Call it white knighting or cuckery or anything else. The point is, you'll get no such reaction from women against other women for abusing their men. Not a single woman will speak out against this end run around the law to vacuum up this guy's assets, effectively stealing them from his grieving family. Assets she has no business acquiring, let alone feeling entitled to them in the first place. Will women speak out and condemn this woman's behaviour? We all know the answer to that. Now ask yourselves, why?

[–]lala_xyyz11 points12 points  (3 children) | Copy

Sisterhood Über Alles.

This and the fact that women posses no sense of justice or honor. To them, laws are just the rules to follow, or else.. She will milk any man for any dime she can, if she can get away with it.

[–]5Imperator_Red2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

This isn’t hyperbole. They actually have a different morality. They have a care based morality, whereas men have a justice based morality. They can understand justice as an abstract concept just as I can understand crying over baby seals as an abstract concept. But they do not feel justice in their hearts the way we do.

[–]lala_xyyz1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly. In my former country most of judges are women. It's one of the most corrupt shitholes in Europe.

[–]5Imperator_Red4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

It was never about equality.

We’re not smarter than our ancestors.


[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Recently went to a funeral of a guy who left a seven figure estate to a woman he orbited for decades. He was in the wings when she had her time with the guy that alpha widowed her. He was there when she was married and had kids. He was there for all of it. Through a small mistake in his estate, his family got a small fraction of it. Everything else had her name explicitly on it from life insurance to brokerage accounts. In most states this supersedes any will and is pretty much unassailable. The family is fucked.

The funny part being she was already pretty rich and needed none of it. In her defense though, she actually was nicer to him than most of his prick family. Last I talked to her she doesn't plan on spending a dime of it, but just keep it away from the family.

[–]1meerita6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

My condolences, brother. It's really hard and it's even harder when a harpy is trying to take advantage of your dead brother. Women have no limits when it comes to get their provision.

[–]BryceKA5 points6 points  (6 children) | Copy

New to RP but does anybody know why these horrible acts are always committed by women? You never hear about men trying to completely fuck over their ex in every way possible. Just curious why you guys think this is?

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor8 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy

It's part of their nature. Not saying all women will do it, but many are selfish by nature.

[–]BryceKA3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

But there’s plenty of selfish men out there but you still never hear about them trying to pull shit like this

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Like I said, it’s part of a woman’s nature to suck out as much as they can on men. Think about it as simple as this, women who are “gold diggers” is a very common phenomenon and their are even sites who encourage women to go after men for their money (looking at you Seeking Arrangements). As a man, I would love to be with a woman who makes more money than me, but I do not go after women solely for that reason.

[–]5Imperator_Red1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

There’s nothing to be gained by it as a man.

[–]TRPtamine2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You say NAWALT, but really, AWALT. There might be the odd exception, but realistically they are all capable of this by the basic principles of their biological circuitry.

[–]TheImpossible111 points12 points  (3 children) | Copy

Holy shit, I thought they couldn't go lower than I already expect, but nope. Women plunge deeper into the depths of human decency.

[–]2CasaDeFranco[S] 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

She seemed like a nice woman too, I stayed over after a big night. She left a fresh towel and glass of water outside our door and a note for my friend saying she left early for work.

Then this theatre, what an absolute cunt move.

[–]abitsloshed1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Jesus Christ. What you just stated.... It SOUNDS like she was a quality women. That's so fucked. Makes it difficult to really let any women in at this point. Was it always this way you think? Is there no hope for the future?

[–]2CasaDeFranco[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She was ostensibly a nice partner.

I’ve been through only one bad breakup but I’ve never seen anything on this level.

[–]SouloftheVoid3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Jesus Christ. The Blue Pill might as well be made of carfentanil while the Red Pill saves lives. This bitch should be locked up for fraud.

[–]Lateralanouncer4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Like the story of the frog and the scorpion. A scorpion will be a Scorpion. A hoe will be a hoe and use you like the ex spendable man you are.

[–]2CasaDeFranco[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Honestly, when he was live she seemed like a lovely caring woman. Not just in words but actions.

I said above, one evening I stayed over when I had too much to drink, she left out a fresh towel and a glass of water and a nice handwritten note for Seb.

But this seems so uncharacteristic.

A colleague said to me; you don’t know a woman until you divorce her, he was right.

[–]Domebeers2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

They need to teach Game in schools. Game saves lives.

[–]quarthomon28 points29 points  (4 children) | Copy

Briffault's law maintains that “the female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place.”

How does this relate to the situation you describe?

[–]2CasaDeFranco[S] 111 points112 points  (3 children) | Copy

She ended the association (relationship) when there was no benefit.

Now that he is dead and she can fight for his money, she lies that an association (relationship) exists to derive benefit ($).

[–]abitsloshed3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Holy shit. You can't make this shit up mother nature is a cruel bitch.

[–]Ich_bin_du880 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Only cruel to the sheep, the wolves ain't complaining yo

[–]5Imperator_Red1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

And people wonder why we subjugated them for 10,000 years.

[–]NorthEasternNomad2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Any man marrying a modern woman in western society without a prenup, or cohabitating in a common law state, is an idiot. And arguably even with a prenup, there isnt much to gain in a monogamous relationship.

And I say this, being in one. Sure mine is better than most I know...but AWALT, and I know it. If you're a self sufficient, high value, single man...just stay single.

[–]Ich_bin_du882 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

My older Brother got dumped by her LTR, he took his own life in front of her house, my parents found him with the noose still on His neck.....I don't fully blame ir on her, He was depressive after all, I know your pain, keep strong Bro, you Will make it through

[–]HectoSexual9 points10 points  (6 children) | Copy

I loved living with my LTR. Some of the best years of my life, despite what you or Rollo or anyone has to say.

That being said, gotta be careful who you choose. Obviously.

[–]g0dfather9326 points27 points  (0 children) | Copy

A lucky exception, that's all that was.

You can win a 100-1 bet that Barcelona will lose 5-0 to Leganes and make bank that sets you for life. Obviously, every sane man will tell you not to bet your money on Barcelona losing 5-0 to Leganes - and that remains the truth irrespective of your win, because it is a dumb fucking bet.

[–]nixon9933 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yea man i bet there was alot of red flags with her he just was in love or never know the full story trust me.

[–]Dakstradamus3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

So what happened? Why are you not living with them anymore?

[–]HectoSexual1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I wanted to go back to gaming, and couldn’t do that with a girl in my house.

[–]JurJur1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

She no different from other bitches. She’s just like them and they just like her.

[–]paprikarat121 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

this is insane on so many levels

[–]awakenedspirit11 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks for sharing man. So sorry to hear about it. Hope you're doing ok.

[–]10points4gryffinddor1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fucking hell man they’re absolute ruthless savages

[–]Nicolas06311 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Sorry to say that, but I don't get this story. It doesn't look like realistic a few things do not add up to me:

- nobody care if they are together or not. If they are not married or if he didn't put her in his testament, then she has no right.

- there are proof through text and her living the flat to testify the breakup. But I am not sure it does even count at all. What count for me is what is written on contracts.

Whatever, take a great lawyer.

[–]2CasaDeFranco[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She's issued two stat dec's to state they were in a relationship.

My text messages identify the breakup the days following his passing, she will probably testify they got back together as they had previously broken up and gotten back together quite quickly.

Speaking of contracts, he lists her as his spouse on his insurance documentation.

He fucked up there and he fucked up by not having a will at 30.

[–]nothestrawberrypatch1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sorry about you friend buddy, thank you for the post.

[–]matcha_cheesecake1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Women are disgusting. If you are nothing to her you really are nothing.

[–]oldslut1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

l shouldn't get mad at bitches like this, because AWALT. but, i still do. it pisses me off and i hope that bitch doesn't see a single dime.

[–]Ricky4691 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The main thing that will save the day depending on the state they lived in is did he legally marry her by getting a license. If he did not they were not together long enough for common law marriage if he lives in one of those. Another important factor is his will if he had one. A person who dies without a will is intestate. An unmarried girlfriend has no standing to an intestate inheritance. Most states it's wife, then children especially minor children, then parents, then siblings, they gradually outward to more distant relatives. Unless he legally married her or named her beneficiary of his estate she gets nothing.

[–]1sezamus1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Such stories make me sick. Sick of how a grown up man behaves like a kid, forgets of what is important and loses control of his reality. He got depressed or commited suicide because a bitch dumped him. There were guys coming home from Afghanistan who got depressed not because we lost men on IEDs, but because their GFs/fiances/wifes dumped them ("Jody" was there of course).

It makes me sick. You help somebody through your life or even risk with your own life and he just kills himself for some dumb bitch. Good to know I dragged enemy's fire on me for nothing.

Such stories make me redefine "brotherhood".

[–]PhaedrusHunt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Jesus man nothing surprising here. I'm sorry

[–]Zech4riah0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You can live with your LTR if you take precautions. Altho expect the amount of sex decrease when you live together.

Yes, there was Briffault's law in action but not in the aftermath exactly which is greed, entitlement and female solipsism.

Briffault's law: "The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place." - So the association couldn't take place because husband/boyfriend is dead which is different thing.

If he had lived, they would have probably gotten back together because there was still resources to leech and current lifestyle to be maintained.

PS. Sorry to hear about your loss as well. He seemed a good guy who was just too strongly plugged in and couldn't be saved.

[–]3SKRedPill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's a shame Sebastian simply did not love himself. Guys, I cannot say it enough - women are only the flower on the tree, the cherry on the cake. The cake ought to taste fine by itself even without it. Love yourself enough that you do not take shit from anyone. ANYONE.

And remember, when the person next to you becomes the enemy, do not hesitate to deal with them as such.

[–]McVaghunter 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Do not live with LTR

Whatever happened to spinning plates? Why do you guys feel that an LTR is a must?

Anyway, your book-smart* friend was a pharmacist, so I'm pretty sure he would agree that weak organisms that cannot survive in the real world deserve no sympathy.

[–]2CasaDeFranco[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

An LTR is the first step to having children. Many men want to have their own children.

Also your point about not surviving; you’re a cunt.

[–]throwaway-aa2-4 points-3 points  (10 children) | Copy

How does any of this have to do with living with her? He could have lived with her and not put her as a spouse on employment records, right?

I think it's a great story and a reminder, but I don't know how you're connecting the idea of not living with your LTR.

[–]2CasaDeFranco[S] 26 points27 points  (7 children) | Copy

State law where I live states if you live together, you are defacto partners.

Some nations have a time threshold of living together also.

It's worth researching where one lives to determine the legal context.

After a breakup, one can go through a divorce like division of assets if you're not protected and your ex-girlfriend is motivated enough.

[–]owlsden17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

The term is common law marriage. Like you say the law varies by state in the U.S.

[–]StraightGangstaHack7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is why I will never live in any of the common law marriage states. Any place where a girl can grab your assets just by claiming you let her sleep over too often... Yeah, no fucking way. Why does any man voluntarily live like that?

[–]russian_nigger6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

if they only lived for 5 months like you say, there's no common law marriage. that's way too short of a time.

[–]2CasaDeFranco[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

He had filled out her as a spouse on his documentation, which combined with them living together gives her some space to argue. We do not live in America, the Roth 401k was so the audience was familiar with a financial instrument used here.

[–]russian_nigger1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

oh gotcha. that makes sense. because living together by itself wouldn't really constitute marriage even in common law marriage states. the couple has to have an image of a normally married couple on top of just cohabiting.

[–]throwaway-aa25 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

So don't live with LTR depending on your location then.

[–]2CasaDeFranco[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

Correct, it's unwise to live together, from an asset protection perspective and from a relationship dynamics perspective. You have to be on your game 100% of the time, it's exhausting.

[–]F_Dingo2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Living with her has everything to do with this. Check out common law marriage.

I was 18 at the time and doing my first ever jury duty stint. As the judge was hearing the reasons why some couldn’t serve, one guy mentioned that his girlfriend lived with him in his reason to get out of serving. The judge asks ”so how long have you lived with each other?”, the guy replies back, “three years sir!”. The judge then says “congratulations, you’re married under common law!”. Once the guy heard that, he turned whiter than a ghost. I’ll never forget that moment.

[–]throwaway-aa21 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is extremely location dependent and shouldn't be conveyed as an absolute without the corrolary of "if you live in a place where common law marriage is instituted" was my point.

[–]AccomplishedCobbler7-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

At least he had a relationship. Tons of guys literally couldn't get a single girl to piss on them if they were on fire if their life depended on it. The guy was ungrateful

[–]Casd12-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

Boo hoo. I would do the same shit if I was her. Having morals holds you back in life guys. It's better to be amoral

[–]testable3130 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I agree that you need to be aggressive, but, your comment is actually irrelevant to the topic of the post and is missing the point: you can be a wolf, but, still be horrifically slaughtered by another wolf.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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