Why do you think women from Eastern Europe / Asia are better?

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October 26, 2019

I’m from Central/Eastern Europe and it blow me apart every time when I see guys putting women from these regions on pedestal here. I know that most of you are probably from USA or Western Europe but really? We all know here that AWALT applies as the name implies to all women and I have the impression that I am the only person who notices this hypocrisy.

I realize that there is such a thing as cultural differences, but the nature of women remains the same. However, you look at women from these regions as if they were from another planet. It's just bullshit.

Briefly, guys from the US or Western European countries get extra points from girls for being somehow EXOTIC. I know this may be strange especially if you are ordinary guy where you live but damn you sometimes it only takes to start speaking English in non-English countries and suddenly everyone knows that you are not from here AND YOU GAIN BONUS SMV POINTS.

It gives you 1 to 3 points depending on the girl. As 5 you become 7 as 6 you become 8 in the eyes of this girl + in most cases you appear to have more money. To finish this simple math equation higher SMV is more often equal to girl being more FEMININE.

So why do I have the impression that none of you can see it? I bet all of you know this but you don't want to see it because the ego doesn't allow you to. At that point I see you as delusional BP guys from abroad who think there is nothing special in paying 20$ (yes 20$ dinner per person is a thing for girl in her 20s there) for sushi dinner with a girl. Change my mind

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Title Why do you think women from Eastern Europe / Asia are better?
Author Metrack
Upvotes 88
Comments 80
Date 26 October 2019 05:21 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/292845
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/dngud1/why_do_you_think_women_from_eastern_europe_asia/
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[–]blissfullyaware00 189 points190 points  (27 children) | Copy

Thinner and generally more submissive. Men are not attracted to large and in charge feminists, and North American women are going to learn this at their own peril.

[–]MedicalNothing 1 points [recovered]  (9 children) | Copy

I’m Prague born, I know we are West Europe but I’ve traveled enough in eastern to tell you that no, their girls are not submissive at all. They are just good players since they have to. Russian/Whiterussian and Ukrainian girls will eat most western men alive just by dating them. Unless you act like volodya or sergei and out them to their place they will be far more in control of you than you of them.

[–]blissfullyaware00 43 points44 points  (4 children) | Copy

This is true act actually!! You're right, I experienced the same in Prague, those women are viscous lol. I guess I'm thinking more of the southeast Asian women.

[–]downvotesanimals 33 points34 points  (3 children) | Copy

I know you meant "viscious", but "viscous" is funny.

[–]blissfullyaware00 12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

Hahaha well they might be that too.

[–]Hamster_S_Thompson 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

STDs probably

[–]Standgrounding 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


[–]BackOnGameJP 28 points29 points  (1 child) | Copy

Same goes for Asian women. In Japan for example they run the house. Most dudes are pussyfied and are treated as ATM. The social, external order is patriarchal but in couples and households women are way stronger than foreigners might think or fantasize.

[–]liquorbaron 14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah but Japan is going to learn this the hard way as well with their herbivore men. I mean there's already a strong version of MGTOW of sorts there. I know it's not the same as MGTOW at all but it is men checking out on women and society.

This talks about it a bit. https://theredpillroom.blogspot.com/2013/04/men-2020-real-story.html

[–]bradtwo 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Can confirm.

My sons mother is Ukrainian.

The men, very often, treat their women like complete shit. That is (sadly) part of their culture, to some degree. Ego, Ukrainian women tend to be a bit more self reliant and thicker skinned... providing more of a push back than what you would get with more western women.

[–]still_unresolved -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

What ? In exussr men are slaves for women. Women are cold rude masculine career bitches here. Ussr was a matriarchy since the beginning

[–]Metrack[S] 12 points13 points  (12 children) | Copy

They may looks better but why don't you think the main reason behind this better behavior is just 1-3 additional smv points? You know you are the same but to those women you just appear to be better then in your home country which should and often imply better treatment from those women.

edit. Here we got feminism too its already too late. But from what I saw the best weapon against feminist is just to be high enough value with redpill mindset

[–]Funkydirigidoo 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

just 1-3 additional smv points

on a scale of 10 that's still a 10-30% bonus, not negligible

But I agree with your general sentiment, AWALT

[–]blissfullyaware00 17 points18 points  (10 children) | Copy

You need to read The Rational Male. He outlines all of this. Male SMV skyrockets in your 30s. Go to Asia as a single fit 30 something and you'll slay.

[–]Final_Pantasy 15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy

Be average looking and white and dont dress like a tourist, and you’ll slay, especially SE Asia

[–]shadexs55 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

26 6'2" White Navy guy here, deployed all over south east asia last year and can confirm this is true. It was like I was playing life on easy mode with cheat codes.

[–]TheFowo 4 points5 points  (7 children) | Copy

Well its true, my current ltr is Vietnamese yet living in my country. She only likes photos of herself where she looks white, always keeps talking how much she loves eastern Europe looks (white, blonde). To add more, her previous 3 LTRs were all 30 and I'm the only person younger than that she got interested in as (in her words) I'm much more mature than usual person in 20s

[–]endertheend 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yup. if you are white you can slay ANYWHERE in asia.
Period. The amount of dumpy looking white guys with hot asian chicks in EVERY Asian country Ive been too (ESPECIALLY JAPAN) is totally unreal. Honestly, all incels should just get their shit together monetarily enough to move to asia and get a good wife, and work on getting money through online businesses.

[–]Hungboy6969420 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Good advice but they'll never change

[–]TheFowo -1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy

Oh yeah and she's 19

[–]Sobinia 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

She's 19 and has already had 3 LTR's? When did she manage to get them? Teebage love isn't usually an LTR.

[–]TheFowo 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

By ltr i define relationship with ownership longer than 6 months so yup, she had 3 of them

Just to remind you - ltr=long term relationship.

Sure 6 months isn't a lot of time but it does fall under ltr category

[–]Sobinia 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Ok then... just... be careful... 3 LTR's is quite a lot for a 19 year old. I'm not saying it's a giant red flag that should cause you to run away screaming (her having a body count of, say, 15 would be one, for instance) but it's definitely a yellow one, indicating that she might not be a keeper.

[–]TheFowo 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well aware of it, but thanks for care! I did some background check and it seems most of her exes were classic introverts (she's quite quiet herself). Looks like she just got bored with them not willing to do lot of stuff except sitting in house and not leading. Right now I'm trying to keep small and healthy distance so she can chase me a bit. And ofc base of ltrs: give her emotions. Better to make her mad / sad than bored with nothingness (doesn't mean I'm tryna get her down ofc)

[–]ZeppKfw 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Pretty much why I see a lot of americans with asian/russian wives.

[–]Godzilame 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

I've been dating many east asians and if you believe you're in charge because they let you take control during sex you're a dumbass. They have more drive than the vast majority of Westerners

[–]still_unresolved 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Asians yes. Exussr no

[–]mustache_ride_ -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

going to learn this at their own peril.


[–]vullnet123 33 points34 points  (6 children) | Copy

I can tell you that the girls from the balkans are the biggest attention whores you'll ever meet

[–]itsjustsimon- 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy

I don't know, I think there are all attention whores to a degree. On Balkan, it's just more normal due to culture and mentality of people.

[–]anycolouryoulike99 9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy

here(Balkans) they basically can't live without their phone lol every few seconds they are refreshing their instagram feed

[–]tenix 13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's literally every girl every where

[–]Shieldless_One 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Same with girls in the west.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev 27 points28 points  (3 children) | Copy

As someone with a foot in both worlds, Eastern Europe has a far more favorable “Hottie to Fattie” ratio, and the girls are more feminine, but any westerner who thinks they are more submissive is going to get a hard lesson. If you want them to be submissive then you need to show them who is boss and ENFORCE it, by keeping them in check.

That said, if you are man enough the rewards will be there, and, properly handled, they won’t have the undeserved entitlement that western girls will often have.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper 15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

Came to say this. No girl is submissive unless your pimp hand is strong.

[–]thrwy75479 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Would the environment also have an effect?

I would think bringing one over to the west would increase the likelihood to stray given that there would be more opportunities.

[–]Sobinia 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, people adjust to the new culture/environment and you'd be a liar if you said that people don't get influenced by their surroundings. So unless she makes friends with immigrants from her country, expect change.

[–]1redhawkes 20 points21 points  (2 children) | Copy

higher SMV is more often equal to girl being more FEMININE.

This is universal and applies everywhere, AWALT etc.

I think that people who don't live in EE, Balkans etc, suffer from the 'grass is always greener on the other side' effect. It's true, feminism hasn't penetrated here as much as it has in the west, but the chicks you're pedestalizing are in no way unicorns.

More traditional, maybe, but that's already on it's way to be extinct by westernizaton, MSM etc. I've been studying in NYC in my early 20s, there's difference between the chicks here and US, but nothing major (except the mental illness and obesity rate). Every chick is slut for Chad.

[–]unn4med 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Care to elaborate on the mental illness part?

[–]1redhawkes 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I've never seen more mentally ill people per square meter than in US.

[–]itsjustsimon- 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy

I'm from Eastern Europe and yes, women are thinner and more into a healthy lifestyle and they get serious boyfriends sooner in their life, but on the other side, I've never seen more cheating behind a bf/husband's back than in our part of the world.

Of course when you're a tourist or smth it's always easier to bang randoms. Not just women who live there but also travellers and expats. Nothing new here, old news.

[–]TheRealBrotherLouie 23 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy

Also, they start being slutty because it looks cool and modern - they're all whores, but they're poorer here

[–]Monitorul 8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy

I've never seen more cheating behind a bf/husband's back than in our part of the world

Ohoho, you should see Italy.

[–]ButMessiDeservedIt 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Italy? Care to explain.

[–]Monitorul 12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'm sure there's statistics on it, but from what I've seen when I lived there they make infidelity a national sport. Wives cheating on husbands, girlfriends cheating on boyfriends and fiancees; I've seen too many cases, and also assisted a few. At my Italian university a lot of students had a girlfriend or a boyfriend back home in the country, but what usually happened is that they found a girlfriend or boyfriend on campus behind their partner's back and became a couple, while officially staying together with the partner back home and continuing with them after graduation like nothing happened. The sweetheart back home was probably doing the same thing at their own school. I saw a case where a girl cheated on her campus boyfriend as well. What surprised me most wasn't that they were doing it, but the facility with which they were doing it with a serene smile on their face as if it was nothing. Even the faculty were cheating on their spouses with the secretaries. I've also heard complaints from foreign women of Italian men cheating on them. After what I've experienced with them and their ways I would never trust Italians, they are Macchiavellian and embody "sangue freddo".

One time I was out with an Italian colleague and his friends, which included a couple. Later that night I found out that he was actually banging his friend's girlfriend when she showed up at his place.

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[–]PickUpScientist 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

It gives you 1 to 3 points depending on the girl. As 5 you become 7 as 6 you become 8 in the eyes of this girl + in most cases you appear to have more money. To finish this simple math equation higher SMV is more often equal to girl being more FEMININE.

personally i think you covered it here nicely. i'm from california, where blond haired and blue eyed guys are a dime a dozen. studying abroad in tokyo was an eye opening experience. it was great.

it especially tickles me that its so annoying to western women, who are born with an inflated smv that they don't appreciate until it suddenly evaporates at around 35 years old.

[–]MisterMarbles1988 47 points48 points  (4 children) | Copy

They're simply more physically attractive. Thinner on average. Put more effort into their appearances than the hogs of the west (US/Can/Mex/UK).

[–]Metrack[S] 14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy

You got me, I admit it. This can be a major plus, because I've heard about obesity = weaker competition. On the other hand, here and there are ugly girls but they all have access to instagram which imply short attention span and bitchy behavior cuz hundreds of orbiters.

[–]MisterMarbles1988 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sure. All I’m saying is, all else being equal, Asian/Eastern European girls are better than western “girls”.

[–]G0rv 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy


+ Also, physical health goes hand in hand with mental health. Girls that tend to be a bit overweight resort to self-loathing and end up with a lot of red flags. e.g. increased neuroticism and reactive behaviour.

+ Which leads me into the next USP of eastern girls. They seem a bit more conservative and traditional, instead of the identitarian liberal feminazgül nonsense a lot of the western girls are playing at. This is of course also closely related to the mental health status.

[–]Hungboy6969420 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Personally I don't find Asian women attractive. Yes thin is nice but many have no definable features.

[–]cowsgobarkbark 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Because it's where dudes with no game go for easy pussy, it's how you get all these dorky guys moving to Thailand.

[–]xoxe1337 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women are women. They might be quieter in saudi arabia tho

[–]liquorbaron 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's guys trying to get away from places where feminism has poisoned the well. I mean a Slavic woman might be as much of a slut as an American woman on average but on average Slavic women probably care more about their looks, being thin, and being feminine looking than the average American woman does. So while AWALT may still apply one group is still offering more than the other.

[–]Monitorul 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

There is no such thing as "Central Europe". Germany and Austria are wealthy and totally different than the poor ex-commie countries like Poland and Czech Republic, and the mentality of the women in those countries reflects this.

[–]DiebytheSword666 6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

White American guy here - I've lived in Korea and China.

I've never been to Eastern Europe, but I've been blown away at the women I've seen in Shanghai - busty, fair skinned, big, beautiful eyes. I bet that in Poland a C-cup girl is considered flat-chested. Then you'll see an American / Canadian girl nearby - frizzy out-of-control rainbow-colored hair, nose / tongue piercings, and hideous tattoos.

Some Asian women are great. Vietnamese and Thai girls are hot. The girls from The Philippines are a mixed bag. When I went there in 2008, I saw lots of amazing women, went back in 2019. The western diet has really hit the country.

East Asian women are a bit over-rated, IMHO. I don't care for Koreans; they're too racist / xenophobic for my tastes; Korea is for Koreans, that's for sure. (China, you're catching up.) And I agree with what someone said on the Roosh-V forum. "I was underwhelmed with the women in Seoul." To me, Korea is just a curve-less wasteland. Maybe times have changed, but when I was there several years ago, I noticed that the more attractive the foreigner was, the less attractive his Korean girlfriend was. To each his own, I guess.

Moving on to China... I don't care for the average Chinese girl, but considering there's 1.3 billion of them, you'll definitely find a lot of hot ones. As SerpentZA said on youtube. "As a foreigner, you're not their first pick." The thing about China is that it's easy to get a strings-attached relationship, but who the hell wants that with one of them? The parents move in with you, there are demands to have a baby right away, and jeez... a lot of Chinese / Koreans who are with foreigners seem bat-shit crazy. Let's not get on the topic of money with Chinese women. Expect pressure to buy a house, a car, expensive tuition at a nice school, and all that jazz. No thanks!

[–]Sobinia 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm from Poland and I have to disappoint you. Here, there are just as many flat-chested women as in other parts of the world, and a C-cup girl is considered average.

However, I have good news too: most girls are slim here and maintain a healthy lifestyle. A girl that weighs 60 kilograms is considered a bit overweight. A girl that weighs 70 is deemed as straightoff fat - and is often shamed for her extra kilograms.

[–]zxblood123 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Thoughts on ABCs trying to go for Chinese born or other ABCs?

[–]DiebytheSword666 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I completely missed your comment.

It's all about confidence. I knew of a handsome Asian American who assumed that all of the girls were after white foreigners. I also know an ABC who looks like a dark-skinned Filipino (not a good thing in East Asia), and he landed a beautiful Chinese wife.

But just remember - in China it's easy to get a strings attached relationship. No strings attached is a bit more tricky.

[–]Arnoux 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I am from eastern europe and have limited experience in the west. 1 week London, London again and Paris and 2.5 months northern england.

As others said the young girls are thinner in eastern europe than in England. It is hard to get tinder matches at west. Maybe because I was not living there more girls swiped left on me or maybe because there are more migrants there (which means more males usually) and they are sick of it.

Women in Paris is way way way hotter than women in UK. In Uk what I have found that there are more better looking girls from other background like eastern europe, india, arabs. The white English women does not look so good to me. Also they tend to party hard which is disgusting sometimes and make things what I could not even imagine in eastern europe.

Women, especially white English women have a distinct style as well which is very different than what eastern or Paris women wear. In terms of looks Paris and eastern europe women look similar (except there are some exocitc women in Paris)

Women are just as slutty in eastern europe than in western europe.

[–]iteal 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Thank you. I've seen this mental escape so long here. Most people here just don't get laid and then blame it on the circumstances instead of themselves. It's because eastern women are better and western women are trash, that they are not getting laid. Not just because they're still a BB

[–]Hungboy6969420 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

A limp dick is limp in any country

[–]iteal 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Amen, brother.

[–]whosaccisthis94 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think Asian women are just hotter. I prefer short exotic looking women. Most women in places like Thailand/Philippines are freelancers who will have slept with a hundred if not hundreds of men so don't expect them not to be whores.

[–]majani 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I agree on Eastern Europeans being different, but the South East Asian preference for white men has been widely researched. South East Asian women are on a mission to eliminate their men from the gene pool bruh.

[–]peacemakerzzz 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Why is speaking English such a good SMV boost in non-english countries in Europe? When I was on holiday, I'd been complimented by European girls for speaking excellent English, as compared to some Europeans who speak English with a stiff accent. I never imagined the english language to be that much of an importance when it comes to SMV. (I'm Chinese by the way)

Also, based from my experience, I find europeans more attractive because of their complexion as compared to women in the US. I guess somehow the values they show are also more attractive. Some women in the US are just too rash and shallow. I understand AWALT but when it comes to cultural disparity US women without a doubt just aren't my cup of tea. I find Europeans exotic IMO... maybe because I'm asian lol

[–]Sobinia 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Being able to speak a foreign language fluently is a sign indicating intelligence, which is an attractive trait.

[–]PandaLitter 8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

Did you just spend an entire post trying to justify being a weeb?

[–]MillionaireSexbomb 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

A lot of fetishization here and fantasizing. Put a woman in a new environment and she will most likely adapt to the environment. Finding a “naturally red pill woman” to help the shortcomings of being a faggot is a terrible solution. Imagine traveling to another country for the purpose of a woman. Shameful.

[–]endertheend 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This really isn't an important topic. What's more important is how YOU are going to be better than:

a)the women you want

b)Your male competittion.

Anything else other than game is superflous and a waste of time.

[–]Xraging 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Is everyone here white lol

[–]yyyyzryrd 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Call of the unknown. People want to think there is something better out there. They want to believe there are better women, better culture, better wages, better food etc: in a very ambiguous place. People are curious. Men want easier women to "game". Men want easier women to "tame".

To be fair, Eastern Europe is full of so many obscene falsities, from a far, Western eye. People from the West know nothing about it, and act as if they know everything about it. This, once again, is a psychological phenomenon.

Are EEU different? Yes. Are they easier? Doubt it.

Is EA different? Yes. Is EA easier? More probable.

[–]Spaghetti1776 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

What did I even just read?

Is that you Mr. Biden?

[–]30DaystoSolstice 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Good post

[–]still_unresolved 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I agree.

I'm Russian living in Moscow. Russian women are ugly rude cold career bitches. Not feminine at all.

They have no ass and tits.

I don't even fuck Russian prostitutes.

I fuck only latinas (white, black, mulatto!!!) and Asians ! They're really feminine

[–]Stupyyy -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's that the western feministic self destructive hate all men mindset isn't popular in Eastern Europe/ Asia.

[–]wawakaka -2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

Americans worship beauty and women from eastern Europe have an incredible beauty that hard to find in America. i read somewhere that after Stalin there was a ratio of 10 women for 1 man. so men had their pick and only the most beautiful women got to procreate. so those genes got passed on and there is a surplus of beautiful women in Eastern Europe.

its a lot like Mercedes and BMW's in America. These cars are high coveted in America because they represent prestige. but in Europe these cars are not all that special as many people have them and they are even used as taxi cabs in various countries. In America you would never see at BMW or Mercedes as a taxi unless at a high class hotel.

Russian women are put on pedestals because those kind of women are not common in America and only the rich or famous have access to those type of women. sure AWALT but not all women look like runway models the way they do in eastern Europe.

My boss is from Romania and she has such and incredible beautiful face. I think most of the women at my job hate her secretly because she is so beautiful. Its a beauty that hard to find in here but its also worshiped here.

[–]still_unresolved -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why you let women to rule you ?

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

They aren’t. They’re creepy.

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