I've never been a true red piller but I agree with a lot of the philosophy. Anyway, this pissed me off and I just wanted to share my story, what are your thoughts?

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The last couple girls I've been hanging with have been huge sluts. Like 30+ dudes they've fucked. It grosses me out.

I met a girl that seemed pretty chill and was really fun to hang around with. Picked up on my sarcasm immediately, a lot of people can take weeks to understand when I'm joking about stuff.

She came over and she didn't want to sleep with me. That's honestly fine. I find it admirable if I can pull all my cards and not get your pants to budge. If you sleep around like crazy, I genuinely don't trust you to not cheat on me if we're in a relationship. Guys have to work for it, but girls just have to say "yes".

She came over again tonight. Same story, she doesn't want to sleep with me. We're having fun though. I end up getting her pants off, it's most likely going to happen but we're still flirting around.

I ask if she's ever had a threesome and she says yeah, "but with two guys so it wasn't like weird"

Finally it all adds up, this girl isn't some incredible gem, she's a slut just like all the other ones. We're not equal if I've slept with a bunch of girls and you've slept with a bunch of guys. It's not some feat to open your legs.

Then I realize this girl is out slutting it up without a care in the world but for some reason I'm "special" so she wants to hold off. Get the fuck out.

I kind of backed off. She put her pants on. She said, "we could still hook up if that is what you want?"

nope. I don't. Thanks for playing.

Why does this stuff bother me so much though?


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Title I've never been a true red piller but I agree with a lot of the philosophy. Anyway, this pissed me off and I just wanted to share my story, what are your thoughts?
Author Throw4way4all
Upvotes 131
Comments 111
Date 03 November 2019 01:19 AM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/293781
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[–]its_going_down_ 205 points206 points  (0 children) | Copy

Because you look for that beautiful special little sunflower

[–]frognads 154 points155 points  (9 children) | Copy

Don't ask don't tell. If she's not LTR material then just ejaculate(into a condom) and evacuate.

Turns out most girls are whores, so instead of worrying about being noble and shit try having some fun.

"You don't want her to be a whore, you want her to be YOUR whore"

[–]thebadguy89 19 points20 points  (8 children) | Copy

How can you tell if a potential LTR is not a whore without digging through her past history? Like what are the signs of a whore vs a relatively clean girl?

[–]frognads 66 points67 points  (5 children) | Copy

An LTR shouldn't be your end goal. It should be something that happens after you have gotten to know a girl well enough and she hasn't given you any good reasons to eject.

Even muslim girls aren't innocent, they are just more discrete. I personally avoid girls who run their mouths and talk about their sexual past openly. A 'clean girl' who is attractive doesn't fucking exist. She's gonna get some dick sooner or later.

[–]Ill_mumble_that[🍰] 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Gotta meet her young.. 16 is okay in some places. On average her relationship satisfaction is around 97% if you LTR up a true virgin that hasnt sucked dicks or anything yet.

[–]Hambone_Malone 34 points35 points  (1 child) | Copy

You just pulled that statistic right out of your deep dark doodoo dungeon.

[–]Ill_mumble_that[🍰] 16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

The study I had read was at 97% a few years ago.

Search for "Fewer Sex Partners Means a Happier Marriage" and the 2018 theAtlantic article links to a study that puts it at around 65%.

Thats substantially lower, but still a lot higher than the high dick count whores.

I'll post the original study I read a few years ago if I can find it.

[–]DeathByGlutten 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Dated an Iranian. Terrible idea

[–]frognads 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah I banged one then ghosted cos she was a bit nutty

[–]TheTrenTrannyTrain 33 points34 points  (1 child) | Copy

View them all as whores, until they prove otherwise.

[–]matrixtospartanatLV 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is the shortest, most complete answer

[–]dyinghairfollicles 1 points [recovered]  (7 children) | Copy

You're bothered because of two things:

  1. You're annoyed because she revealed herself to be a slut, and this slut didn't immediately open her legs for you and instead tried to make you wait a little bit more, when she most definitely fucks on the first date with other guys. Now you question your manhood and SMV. How can a slut try to play me like this?

  2. You're also annoyed because you didn't think all women would be sluts. That maybe there still exists that special girl somewhere out there. But the realization that they are ALL indeed sluts is giving you a cognitive dissonance. Reality as you knew it, was in fact, not real. All Women Are Like This. AWALT. This truth is making you uncomfortable.

This is the process of swallowing the red pill. Welcome to the real world, Neo.

[–]Ill_mumble_that[🍰] 12 points13 points  (3 children) | Copy

Why wouldnt she open her legs for OP quickly when she has done so for many guys before?

I'm guessing shes hitting the wall.

[–]jm51 9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

Why wouldnt she open her legs for OP quickly when she has done so for many guys before?

One reason can be that she wants to see him again.

Women can have a thing about being respected. The more they want an ltr with a guy, the more they want him to respect her. Him being a ons that turned into an ltr just isn't as romantic.

[–]Ill_mumble_that[🍰] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

"If I pretend hard enough to not be a slut, maybe I won't be!"

It's funny.

[–]endertheend 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is a good post. Would you have advised him to next he after the second time he failed? Or was this a good learning experience for him? (charging it to the game if it were)

[–]RaidenDark 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is where so many guys get turned off by the red pill. They hear our isms and think "that can't possibly be true" because honestly it isn't. Some women aren't like that.

Not the point. The point is to behave as if it is true. Keeps your heart safe. Otherwise you end up like OP, putting that pussy on a pedestal. The chances of you finding a woman that isn't like that are exceedingly low. For all intents and purposes: AWALT. For your emotional well being: AWALT. Until proven otherwise: AWALT. It's a mindset you must adopt. The vetting process is a long one. You can't possibly determine if she isn't like that by the second date. Don't try. Enjoy yourself. You'll go crazy if you don't.

Red pillers say a lot of extremes. Well, reality is extreme. This is the safest way to go about living in it.

[–]RedHoodhandles 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Since you've summarized it very well and since neither TRP or married RP are adressing the following cognitive dissonace correctlty, I ask you as well as the other users here:

  1. All women are sluts
  2. I want to have kids
  3. I don't want to have kids with a slut

I'd like to find a (personal) solution for this problem within the next 10 years.

[–]JameisBong 24 points25 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol wait until you hear about triple digit notch counts. Stop trying to save thots,fuck her until she's bored and becomes someone else's problem.

[–]MR_SKINNYPENIS69 76 points77 points  (13 children) | Copy

Lol if you think 30+ is a lot for a woman you have another big red pill to swallow

You turned down sex because you are insecure. Learn to enjoy fucking whores, it's fun.

[–]LilLoserFreny 20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

For real. This guy is in a for a huge surprise.

[–]Standgrounding 6 points7 points  (6 children) | Copy

Waitaminute. He's insecure? Explain me like I'm 10

[–]kellykebab 47 points48 points  (3 children) | Copy

He's not insecure. The above guy, like so many dudes on RP, is projecting onto OP in order to rationalize his lifestyle.

If someone is grossed out by whores, that's a completely normal response. You can learn what the "true nature of reality" is, that doesn't mean you have to approve of it or indulge in it. Each man should make up his own mind when confronted with this knowledge.

[–]Ill_mumble_that[🍰] 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

I learned that shit smells like shit. It grosses me out regardless of that I learned the truth about it.

Have standards. But remember that you have to pay the price for those standards. That might mean a substantial smaller pool of women to bang, or even having to physically move to a different culture.

[–]RedHoodhandles 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thank you that someone here still has his senses together.

[–]boywonder200 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

About time someone called out that bullshit that is constant on TRP.

[–]Agustin_de_Iturbide -5 points-4 points  (1 child) | Copy

You see, you have not been enlightened by the true red pill, you have not accepted the degeneracy of this wicked world we live today and become a part of it, this is not related to your SMV, it is because you are insecure of your incapability to cope with this reality, as you are unable to understand that the norm is that a woman has slept with 30+ man, and the insecurity it creates of knowing you are not the one, that she is not your slut, and that she opens herself up to any man willing to satisfy her animalistic necessities, terrifies you.

/s

[–]Standgrounding 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Right. So, if she "isn't his plate" that makes him insecure about it, and thus he can't bang her? That's a catch 22 /s

[–]Allblackallamerican 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol if you think 30+ is a lot for a woman you have another big red pill to swallow.

Well... lmao... how are we talking?

[–]sitienti 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Lol if you think 30+ is a lot for a woman you have another big red pill to swallow

Alright I need to know what's up what do you mean?

[–]MR_SKINNYPENIS69 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

30+ is not a lot for a woman.

Try 100+.

[–]sitienti 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Obviously people like that exist but I bet they are like 1% sounds black pilled.

[–]MR_SKINNYPENIS69 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

If I was blackpilled I'd be talking about how it's destroying our civilization.

I'm just telling you what I've observed. 30 guys is not a lot for the modern woman.

[–]Protocol_Apollo 14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

Assume all women are sluts and see if they prove otherwise.

Too many bluepillers assume the exact opposite and when the truth is revealed, it’s like the whole world falls on them.

Treat all guns like they are loaded NOT unloaded.

AWALT.

[–]Reprimanded_Duck 25 points26 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s a sad truth that real love doesn’t exist. It never has. I don’t know what else to say. Maybe in our dreams it does, but in this life it is cold and empty. Our thirst for belonging or to be loved cannot be filled. To be content and happy is a privilege only the ignorant are afforded in this short life.

I almost wish I’d never had this realization. But it is the price of the Red Pill.

[–]boy_named_su 38 points39 points  (9 children) | Copy

Devil's Threeway is a deal-breaker for an LTR. could a plated her, but I respect your stand

[–]carb0ncl1mber 8 points9 points  (8 children) | Copy

I was trying to explain this someone the other day, but couldn’t except for it just is. What’s the real reason it’s a deal breaker? Like yes it can be said they’re sexual, but go another level, why is that a problem for a relationship

[–]Truedemocracy5 13 points14 points  (2 children) | Copy

It’s exceptionally trashy.

Do you want the mother of your children to have been fucked by two guys at once?

[–]boy_named_su 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

My buddy's gf has. And she brings it up too. You can see him die inside

[–]Truedemocracy5 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol seen something similar once at dinner at a friends house. His wife talked about how she hooked up so much in college and her husband looked so defeated and kept trying to change the subject

[–]TheTrenTrannyTrain 23 points24 points  (3 children) | Copy

Evolution wise, you can't guarantee that the offspring is yours if the women was in a 3some. Your basic instinct is telling you that she's not someone who will guarantee the continuation of your genes, thus the disgust.

[–]Ill_mumble_that[🍰] 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Raising another man's child unknowingly is the ultimate failure any man can make. I can't think of something worse a woman can do to a man, and it's incredibly incredibly easy for them to do it.

Yet here we are in the U.S. with around 30% of our money taken from us at threat of imprisonment every year to pay for entitlements that pretty fund single moms.

[–]endertheend 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thats a good explanation honestly.

[–]Sobinia 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

It proves that she doesn't treat sex as an intimate act between herself and the man she loves/is passionate about. Therefore, in theory, she might find it easier to cheat on her husband/partner.

[–]Apfeltee 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Never ask a question you don’t want to know the answer for. I feel your problem but just like the others say, it doesn’t matter. That’s why I never really talk about sexual experiences of the past, because I don’t care and I don’t want to know.

[–]Flamethrowa21 20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you sleep around like crazy, I genuinely don't trust you to not cheat on me if we're in a relationship.

Just cuz she holds out on having sex with you doesn't mean she won't cheat.

[–]urbanfoh 13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ime thats completely fine. You have principles which are more important to you than sex. And if someone disgusts you it is natural to not sleep with them, isn't it?

Why does it disgust you? Because you have firm values and see other people disregarding them. It's that simple.

Thats a thing I don't understand about this sub. They preach about "we are the price" but at the same time every attractive girl should get the privilige of our dicks lmao.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Because you think she is special. Because you think special exists. Because you'd like to believe special exists. Because you'd rather lie to yourself and be content than face the truth and be happy and free.

[–]kellykebab 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why does this stuff bother me so much though?

Because you have a normal disgust response and are probably oriented towards monogamy more than a lot of people.

[–]thebadguy89 23 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy

We're not equal if I've slept with a bunch of girls and you've slept with a bunch of guys. It's not some feat to open your legs.

That's a really fucking good way of putting it. Girls complain about being slut-shamed while guys with high N-counts are mostly accepted, even admired in society. The difference is as a chick you can get sex like going to a soup kitchen, while the guy has to at least go through some effort to get laid.

[–]RockSoy 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Awesome job for having dignity OP. Wish more men were like you

[–]IAmEnlightened 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

She said she would still hook up with you. Why didn’t you just fuck her and chuck her?

Also, she wasn’t holding out because your special. Her saying she isn’t going to sleep with you is just LMR / ASD, you just didn’t push past it. On the second evening you already had her pants off so she already knows you both know the deal, and has no issues talking about a threesome she had.

Your just a dumb fuck that needs to understand how the world works a bit better and you will be fine. Sounds like you already do ok, you just need to stop trying to find a unicorn and fuck these sluts.

[–]PrettyHateSmooshing 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

can you pull the way you broke her last minute resistance and should have segued back to that pussy. at least fuck her. It's just about hunting man take the game.

[–]SpinPlates 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

I ask if she's ever had a threesome and she says yeah, "but with two guys so it wasn't like weird"

Lmao I've actually had this exact same conversation with a girl a recently. We got on the topic of threesomes (I've only had MFF) and she tells me shed shes only had MMF encounters.

It doesn't matter how hot she is or how great we "click" together. If a girl is getting double teamed she is not worth my time beyond a quick fuck.

Why does this stuff bother me so much though?

Because you were rasied on Disney stories and nuclear family units with white picket fences and true love that lived happily ever after.

Men love romantically, women love situationally

[–]holzpuppet 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bro, why don’t you take a look at the book „Sex God Method“ and try to focus on honing your sex skills with that girl? Instead of crying about the CC and moralizing her sexual strategy? I mean what’s more constructive?

[–]Foolishoe 3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

She's not that into you. You wouldn't care if she was a huge slut if she gave it up the first time you touched hands.

OH WELL, KEEP LOOKING FOR SLUTS THAT WANT YOU RIGHT AWAY THOSE ARE THE BEST.

[–]Throw4way4all[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

This girl messaged me 24/7. Now that I turned her down it's somehow even more than 24/7

[–]Foolishoe 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Stop answering her texts unless she sees you and fucks you? I'm confused I better re read your shit maybe I stopped in the middle or something.

[–]Foolishoe -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

You and I are not alike. I mean sure she was going to give it up and maybe in the past she did drop her pants right away and bang. What's comical is realizing she didn't do this to you seems to have made you mad.

Sometimes you are special, other times, you aren't as special. Looks like she was trying to work you, so, some guys she tries to work, probably the ones that have more value and seem less like fuck boys.

To me, it sounds like self sabotage on her part. She certainly doesn't realize how you feel about her getting spit roasted. Also, that sort of shit can be pretty common, I know a few women who've done 3somes both ways.

Not quite sure why her being a slut bothers you at all. I personally love sluts as long as they can prove they dont' have STD's. They tend to be more relaxed and open minded and have less social problems because they've been through some shit and grown from it. Sex isn't generally quite the playing card for these women, even though they tend to be more experienced and less prudish. They know what they like and they seldom starfish though sadly I can tell you....

Some sluts starfish.

[–]second-last-mohican 5 points6 points  (10 children) | Copy

Maybe you're attracting sluts?

[–]The_Belony 27 points28 points  (1 child) | Copy

At least he's attracting something though

[–]wtfoshizzle 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

i pity upvoted this but i agree. his smv is probably around a 7. but then again even prudish girls become feminine and slutty if you are attractive enough. It's all relative.

[–]NolanKnowstheTruth 6 points7 points  (7 children) | Copy

He's attracting born-again sluts.

[–]second-last-mohican 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

More like born again virgins... reformed sluts who want to be good girls and wont put out despite their high n count

[–]PrettyHateSmooshing 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

I for one love those born again sluts. so tightly wound on the outside, Full of sin on the inside.

[–]send_it_for_the_boys 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Seems to be all I can attract. Anybody know why that is?

[–]lokilis 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Because you look like relationship material to them

[–]Truedemocracy5 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Must have a ton of safe or beta traits

[–]Truedemocracy5 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The worst kind.

[–]Throw4way4all[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

fucking A this made me laugh.

I avoided this post for a bit bc I thought I'd have a bunch of weird incel-eqsue comments. But nope, you guys upvoted me and made me laugh and nobody really even insulted me, aside from maybe couple projectors here and there

[–]OilyB 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

It bothers you probably because, yes, she'll drop her panties. But she won't drop her panties for you. You don't have what it takes to make her dropping her panties for you irresistible. She's used to much more animalistic, overwhelming physical attraction, which to her, you lack.

This is always a painful pill to swallow. But it's a daily occurrence. We're not all the same amount attractive to every woman. You just need to find the girl with the same traits, just with the right set of physical attraction needs: the ones that fit your exact profile.

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K18 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It looks like you just had an epiphany during the act. This epiphany is something you hadn't processed or come to terms with before, so it knocked you back a bit. That's fine. Sometimes reality hits us hard when we still have blue-pill expectations.

Truth is, now you've had the epiphany that many girls are slutting it up, what do you with it from here?

[–]ChadTheWaiter100 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s never that she wants to hold out for you.

I was talking to a girl the other day and I though she seemed cool. She works, goes to school and takes care of her father.

She went on to tell me that her “ex” friend was a huge slut that talks to 5 guys at a time. I thought to myself- sounds like a normal girl to me BUT being friends with a girl like this is certainly a red flag that I will not foolishly overlook.

For a while I was disgusted by it. I tried not to show it. I’ve fucked this girl raw, and she’s friends with someone like THAT? I need to re-evaluate my evaluation process.

[–]Distractingyou 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think you are asking us if you waste it an opportunity to fuck and i think yes looking for that special unicorn wont get you to no where.

[–]RalphStone 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

it bothers you because of "cognitive dissonance", stage 1 and 2 after swallowing Red Pill

eg.: on the surface you are aware that AWALT but subconsciously you hope snowflakes exist.

[–]SM_174 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I feel like this girl is lying about the threesome.

[–]Ohmyqueef 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Why do you figure that?

[–]BusterVadge 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Remember that scene where neo woke up outside of the matrix? He was pretty upset too! Reality bothers people when they've been fed a lie all their lives.

[–]oldertybasterd 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Keep spinning plates. Eventually you’ll grow out of it as you experience more girls and realize there’s no special snowflake

[–]OrlandoBloom6969 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol @ 30+ men. You've been decieved.

[–]ogkushinjapan 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Seems like you’re at the tail end of the redpill rage. Sooner you’ll realize pussy is pussy and just smash and dash while having fun.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why is this shit on top?

[–]Lateralanouncer 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wake up bro. The sexual revolution happened years ago, then smart phones, tinder etc have changed the sexual strategy of woman. Therefore us men have to change. Like it or hate it. They can have as many alpha fucks cocks as they want and they do. No babies, no social stigma. Just cock after cock.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This single interaction with this chick should finally make you a "true" red piller, right? Or you can go back to trying to analyze situations like this and get your brain hamstering just like chicks' brains. Manage risk. Maintain frame always. Reality is still reality even if you wish for it to be different.

[–]4egonTargaryen 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It bothers you because you’re immature. Some advice from a normal person is don’t take advice from the incels on this sub

[–]WolfofAllStreetz 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Would make a fun plate, drop your ego theres a whole fun world out there.

[–]nowayhowsay 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

When girls want to take things slow with a guy it's usually because she doesn't only want him for sex. She likes you, and can imagine a long term relationship with you.

[–]bonivermectin 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

But isn't this the worst way to go about it?

[–]nowayhowsay 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Maybe. I think most guys wouldn't care that much if they really liked her too, because having sex too soon can ruin possibilities of falling in love.

[–]Ohmyqueef 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Look, whether a girl likes you or not is irrelevant. If she likes you but won’t fuck, she’s useless. Because she didn’t like that other guy but she fucked the shit out of him... fuck this love thing.

[–]nowayhowsay 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol guess this doesn't apply to you because as long as you don't show interest in "this love thing" she is more likely to fuck you right away.

And btw girls who hold back because they like a guy is obviously gonna give in after a few of dates or something. Girls want sex too. Like you mentioned, it's about love and that being the goal.

[–]JoeBuckYourslf 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You couldn’t finish the deal and made excuses that she’s a whore and came here for validation.

Pussy.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

cos it feels insulting that she slutted it up with those other guys but made you wait.

implying she doesn't find you as attractive as she found them.

the fact she doesn't find you as attractive as the other guys bothers you because part of your confidence and self esteem is based on other peoples' opinion of you.

so when you know she fucks other guys fast but not you, it's like she's saying "you're not good enough".

and that bothers you because deep down, YOU also think that you might not be not good enough so it's hitting on a deep rooted insecurity of yours.

but the key to understand here is that just because SHE didn't think you're good enough to fuck straight away, doesn't mean you're not good enough. in fact no one else's opinion but YOURS is relevant in answering the question of "are you good enough?". if you think you are, then you are. but if you don't think you are, then you'll subconcisouly always give a fuck what people think of you because you don't like yourself so you need others to like you so atleast you have some feeling that you are worthy.

you're lucky in that you have one of those super analytical minds that wnats to understand all these little tiny details like why this random bitch not fucking you as fast as other guys bothers you more than it should. most guys would just be like "uhh.. feel bad.. ummm.. don't know.. fuck ok". but you're taking initiative and trying to get to the bottom of this and i'm just like you btw as you could probably tell.

anyway point is, that's my theory on why it bothers you so much when it really doesn't matter at all. it triggered something inside you. and it's most likely the thing i said because i been there and many people have been there.

and no amount of lifting, fucking or whatever is gonna fix it. it's a self esteem thing, it's a mindset thing.

accept this fact: "there's no reason I'm not enough".

once you've got that, other people's opinions become irrelevant.

bit of a rant but this one hit close to home so it was worth going deep (pardon the pun).

p.s. someone else in the thread mentioned that this hoe made you "question your manhood" by not fucking you as fast as other guys and he's right. but the key thing is that your manhood should not even be dependent on any woman/man/dog/cat/god/satans opinion of you.

[–]Throw4way4all[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Solid response my man.

I actually recently was seeing a girl I really liked. She had a big slut past of course. I was always feeling some sort of jealousy or neediness. Then she posted a pic of another guy kissing her neck ... and... it was the best thing that could happen to me.

I still hang with her but I am not invested at all. we have sex multiple times a week, she tells me her schedule and I tell her when to come over. blah blah I hook up with other girls too.

The important thing I learned though was to take all that focus on her I had and put it on myself. I stopped feeling so insecure about myself and started enjoying who I am.

so M to you

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

yeah i've noticed insecurity comes from comparing yourself to others.

and you compare yourself to others cos you don't feel complete inside so you look to the outside to tell you how to feel about yourself.

that's a great way to feel like shit.

but the root of the issue is not insecurity itself, the root of the issue is that you don't like you.

if you think you're great just cos. then you don't get insecure cos you don't compare yourself to anyone or thing.

think you're great -> no comparisons -> no insecurity

[–]BankruptGreek 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I never understood the notion of, this is harder therefor it is better, does everyone listen to polirythmic and microtonal music ? No they don't, but they are harder than your average song. But then why are girls bad if they sleep around, it makes them feel good just like guys so why shouldn't they do it, if a guy could find girls easily because of his looks he would do it as well. Period.

I really hope you open your eyes, read what you wrote. Especially your reaction to her telling you she had a threesome. Becuase to me it's absolute mental illness, I am not exaggerating, seriously.. wake up.

[–]LilLoserFreny 0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy

Lmao we need to have a talk on this sub on women and their body counts. You’re in for a surprise if you honestly believe that 30 plus bodies is a disgusting number for a woman. Shit, I agree but here’s the thing. Most women have far exceeded that number by the time they are 21.

I’m actually being generous too with this assessment. From my estimates, most women have had that many men by the time they are 16 years of age. The problem is most of your guys listen far too much about what women say and take it as truth. I’ve been lucky enough to have most women be (somewhat) truthful about their body counts with me (even though I didn’t asked and couldn’t give a fuck). It’s really eye opening the first few times. I’ve met plenty of 20 year olds who have an estimated 50-100 bodies.

At first I thought these women were outliers but as I encountered more and more, all from different backgrounds and personalities, I realized the truth. AWALT and you’ll be hard pressed to find a woman with even a sub 10 body count after the age of 18. Y’all need to accept reality or have your eyes opened. It’s only going to get worse with the younger generations. I’m 21 right now and it is already pretty bad.

[–]IAmEnlightened 7 points8 points  (8 children) | Copy

I think your estimations are off. Most women have not slept with 30+ people by age 16, some may have, but nowhere near most.

[–]LilLoserFreny -2 points-1 points  (7 children) | Copy

Lol okay if you say so.

[–]IAmEnlightened 5 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy

Feel free to back up your assertion with some data, even some anecdotal evidence from more than just yourself will be fine. Until then I won’t assume most 16 year olds have an N count of 30+. I think most people in this sub would share my view.

[–]LilLoserFreny -2 points-1 points  (4 children) | Copy

Okay man. Believe what you want.

[–]AdeHMar 4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

You must be retarded to really think women in general have a count of 30+ at 16 years old.

Are you retarded?

[–]PuttanaBeviSborra 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

yes he is, he's one of those gaslightining basement-dwellers who think they know everything about women but are total social rejects and have no irl data, only other nerds mutually mentally masturbating on some weird incel forum

[–]LilLoserFreny 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Just curious. What makes you think I’m a basement dweller? Or is that just your way of deflecting what I said by insulting me? Don’t agree with me, fair enough but your reply seems a bit disingenuous to say the least.

[–]PuttanaBeviSborra 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

  1. Just from the way you write one can 100% recognize the fedora-wearing fat butthurt neckbeard, the alternative would have been some underdeveloped teenager but from the way you write it's obvious you are a pro forum-surfer who needs psychotherapy and social rehab
  2. Generalizing that all 16y.o have had 30+ dicks or whatever is an obvious symptom of being seriously socially disconnected

[–]Sobinia 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I mean... when would a woman have time to sleep with so many men? If she were to have a body count of 100 at 20, she'd have to have a new partner every 7,3 days, assuming that she started sleeping around on her 18th birthday. That would require TONS of dedication to boosting your N count. Who would want to go through all of that? And... why? What for? Where would she find so many partners?

[–]smhfamswag 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I know women are thots and all, but 30 bodies by 16 ? 100 by 20? Do you live in pornstarville?

[–]gitpullhoes 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This. Other countries are following suit and now the teen AIDS rate went up like 600% this past year in the Phillipines

[–]WIA20XX 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Why does this stuff bother me so much though?

You answered your own question.

I've never been a true red piller.

It's okay, the philosophy is not for everyone.

[–]Andgelyo 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lmao haha damnnnn

Don’t catch feelings bruh, I think that’s why you got caught off guard



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