What happened to AskTRP and TRP?

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November 22, 2019

I got into this stuff about 4 years ago and consistently read it when I needed it for a couple years. I faded away as I got my shit together, but now starting to look into it again with a new lens... the thing is, this isn't really the subs I remember.

The AskTRP I remember had 30 comments on an average post. The TRP sub had maybe 100. Where did everybody go? I know the TRP sub got quarantined, and I actually happened to check TRP that day. But damn, it really did that much? Did everyone migrate to a new sub? I don't really like the layout of the TRP.Red site, so I haven't checked it out much. Is that where shit is happening now?

The ironic part is that in my real life TRP concepts have never been more mainstream. I run into people all the time using terms like "Chad" and actually knowing what TRP is. So, it's definitely not dead. Where the fuck is it? Lmao

Edit: Wow, this post got a lot of attention. Glad to see others had similar thoughts.

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Title What happened to AskTRP and TRP?
Author bigmaddenguy
Upvotes 158
Comments 111
Date 22 November 2019 12:14 AM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/296178
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/dzsoum/what_happened_to_asktrp_and_trp/
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[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (6 children) | Copy

Part of the activity from years prior was from when the PUA community was all the rage. That's since died out for the most part with many of the forums and groups going the way of the dodo and not funneling new people here. And then you've got sitewide censorship on reddit at large. Whenever people mentions our subs they typically get banned and/or the posts removed.

http://trp.red is where us old timers and active posters create a lot of content. The main sub and asktrp are still busy, but reddit as a platform is on its way out and will find itself replaced by something new and shinier the way reddit replaced Digg.

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[–]cyn1calassh0le33 points34 points  (1 child) | Copy

A lot of that is a reflection of the culture as well. Less fathers in the household means less male role models for the younger generation to look up to. Most of these kids have known nothing but their mom and female teachers all their life.

[–]bigmaddenguy[S] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

I agree. Lots of material catering to the lowest common denominator. Tons of "This girl is so amazing, I've hung out with her for 4 months, what do you guys think her opinion is of me? Btw I don't have oneitis and she's the one orbiting me i'm not orbiting her"

[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

"my LTR of two weeks"

[–]legend5031 point2 points  (21 children) | Copy

People have become obsest of "becoming alpha" and that women of all groups should chase them and worship them. "oh this girl who doesn't know me should drop everything she has and have a ons with me". The entitlement has gotten worse than the feminist.

There are a lot of great shit in the side bar. It's worth reading many times. And if somethings unclear you can ask about it. But so much good to read. Yet nobody does it.

[–]6sterile6-5 points-4 points  (20 children) | Copy

You sound exactly like the kind of people who ruined this sub

Betas hating on chad banging there ltrs and mad at chad in general(aka you)

You legit sound like a feminist woman in this comment lmao idk what youre doing in this sub. And this is coming from someone who been on trp since 2014

[–]Domebeers2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

relax, rambo

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[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

look as soon as you start using shaming and moralizing language, no ones gonna like you. and you're gonna be compared to women and feminists cos that's their main method of attack. that's it. it's nothing complicated

[–]6sterile6-2 points-1 points  (4 children) | Copy


Who the fuck said “women bad men good” lol?

I love hoes and I love that all women are hoes. I legit wouldn’t want it any other way

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[–]6sterile62 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Your “good girls” are banging chad in ONS. But that doesn’t the “good girls” a “bad” person for smashing

[–]empatheticapathetic-1 points0 points  (10 children) | Copy

it’s not cool

To tell others how to live their life. Who are you? This attitude is a problem.

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[–]empatheticapathetic-1 points0 points  (8 children) | Copy

You seem to have missed the point entirely.

Keep your moralising out of here. Thanks.

[–]legend5030 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

I haven't missed any points. I have seen what this sub has become and how people practice their methods.

[–]ModTheRedPike0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

how people practice their methods

Can I get an example of what you mean by that?

[–]legend5030 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Absolutely my friend.

  • trying to have as many girls as possible to fuck yet never invest emotionally. Yes heartbreak sucks. But making other women fall for you while you keep leading them on is lame as hell. The whole idea is based on that some women do the same so now you must punish other women for those bitches.

  • having entitlement issues. Grandiose self image that doesn't match reality. No one should expect a girl that doesn't know you to break every personal rule and value for you and your wishes.

So many dudes her think like - oh if she doesn't fuck me on the first date she's useless and I'm worth more. Fuck her. /. Yet they don't understand to some women sex is a very big deal and is more emotionally hooking that what sex is for us. Their orgasm are more tied into being connected and have a stable partner. Which they don't want to risk with a stranger sometimes.

Doesn't mean they're flakes or bitches or prudes.

"I'm gonna get what I want regardless of how other people might feel and react afterwards" is another new common thing in the seduction community and redpill.

It's good to a degree. But trying to fuck other people over before they have a chance of doing the same regardless of situation is just a sign you're afraid to get hurt yourself. It's not alpha. It's beta af.

The Golden rule. Treat people the way you want to be treated. No. You won't fuck the most girls that way. Because some girls are fucking crazy.

Emulating dark triad traits for merely for your own entertainment and total disregards of other people is pathetic.

I wish every man to be successful and find some good women. And for that they have to go through some witches. But a lot of men grow bitter from this. It's very easy. But the fact some think they are cool or alpha or whatever term they want to use.... Is just... Denial. They can do better and deserve better.

[–]empatheticapathetic-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Clearly you have a problem with red pill ideas. So why are you on this sub? To moralise men to your ideal? Get the fuck out of here.

Mods ban this retard. He just spelled out his agenda.

[–]legend5030 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I don't have anything against red pill ideas. When did it become the norm to be stupid in redpill?

Have a good day you whiney brat.

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There's abit of truth to this.

[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar54 points55 points  (21 children) | Copy

Yeah the content quality took a nose dive.

At this point, the best thing you can do is single out wise dudes and follow them specifically. Whisper and VasiliyZaitzev are the two I follow.

[–]Protocol_Apollo7 points8 points  (8 children) | Copy

Don’t forget HSP and u/OmLaLa.

I heard the latter is a ghost: he comes for a while and disappears.

[–]Senior ContributorOmLaLa5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

I’m a ghost now? Makes sense.

[–]Da-redcrip2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

u/OmLaLa I'm sure I'm not the only one still waiting for your youtube videos lol

[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

He shows up and pms people once in awhile. He put his thumbprint on the glory days and moved on

[–]AnAbsoluteSith0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Most of these young bloods probably have no idea what's an Omlala

[–]Protocol_Apollo0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Shouldn’t you be talking in absolutes?

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[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

One of the African American moderators.

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I thought omlala was gone permeantly. As for Human sock puppet. He was like one of the OG's I was wondering where he went.

[–]redblueninja11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy

Started when Archwinger left.

[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy

Shit, I totally forgot about that guy; what a boss. Now I miss his presence. Well, at least there's Vasiliy, the uncle I never had.

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yea..where did he go?

[–]Onein1024th0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

this has always been a problem with TRP

Which is why they have the Endorsed Contributor system.

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I try to see if we can bounce ideas off each other. It's always helpful to have a community.

[–]dingleburry_joe1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

Agreed, I'm glad rian's doing youtube stuff. It's ten minutes and I can absorb my daily pill via audio while I'm getting ready for the day.

Their podcasts can be a bit long and wtf is with rollo's hair like cut that shit

[–]FrontloadPain2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Rian is the essence of rp...Oh wait he doesn't even lift?

[–]dingleburry_joe0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

As far as I'm aware he does lift but I think he's got an injury or something and has been swimming. Not sure but the dude has some good content.

I understand where your coming from. I was watching rollo on youtube and he's got this fucking touque and wtf is up with his hair. Does rollo even lift? I know rich does.

[–]FrontloadPain1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Rollo obviously doesn't lift, looks like shit and is a blind leading the blind

[–]dingleburry_joe0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is the main reason I dont listen to what rolli says. Like the biggest disconnect is someone who doesn't lift and long gray hair telling me about how to get pussy

I find Richard walks the walk as he lifts, has nice cars, dgaf mentality.

[–]magicmetagic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Could you link his Youtube?

[–]rdsmo83 points84 points  (5 children) | Copy

Oh, you didn't get the invitation to the top secret alpha chad TRP club? We hang out every Thursday

[–]bigmaddenguy[S] 27 points28 points  (4 children) | Copy

Lmao. This actually made me chuckle

[–]BackAgainBitch92636 points37 points  (3 children) | Copy

Chuckling is for fat betas

[–]bigmaddenguy[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

I am a fat beta virgin. I just come on here to LARP

[–]rdsmo4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah he's not getting in

[–]BrodinsOats4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

No that’s chortling.

[–]alphatom63103 points104 points  (18 children) | Copy

Ever since the quarantine it kind of died.

I never go on the actual site either. Fuck reddit.

[–]bigmaddenguy[S] 53 points54 points  (16 children) | Copy

Honestly they need a better website designer. Why was it not made based upon a forum when it essentially came from a forum? They should have either hired someone, sought professional advice, or something. The new site just does not look good--not saying I could have done any better, btw

[–]mega_kook21 points22 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah it reminds me of Twitter now. There are just random conversations without context.

[–]Onein1024th2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I appreciate that they're building TRP.RED and i've donated. I hope it continues to evolve and improve however. Its hard to glean any context from posts on there right now

[–]-ThePathIsTheGoal-12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

The website is not good. It should not be this difficult to navigate around.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

They should have either hired someone, sought professional advice, or something.

Have you donated? That costs money, you know.

We're not making a dime off this. We're in the red even before you consider the many hours of our time we have given.

Why? Because we never tried to monetize. We were always about the message. And we know you're a bunch of broke-ass college kids. Honestly, some of you young bros even complained when I put up an entirely voluntary bitcoin tip jar.

So, no, we're not going to hire a web designer unless you guys can cough up what that costs. And let's be honest, you're not going to. I don't think donations even cost hosting costs.

[–]bigmaddenguy[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

My tag is funny considering a lot of people agreed, and I'm clearly not the only one thinking this. Not sure who made it, but come on--be able to take feedback. It's not very TRP to not be able to take negative feedback coming from someone who supports the cause and instead call them a "broke college kid."

For the record, I did donate in the past. It wasn't a hefty sum, but it was something.

And I actually have a rudimentary knowledge of web design, and have a good job in online writing after college lined up. I'm sure someone would be willing to accept an "unpaid internship in web design" that could do a good job with it. Or maybe a TRPer with web design experience would just do it. I'm sure there's one. There are also ways to monetize without being in the face of the reader. TRP generates a lot of page-views, so I would imagine advertisements could at least support the website being hosted, if that cost were a concern.

Maybe that isn't wanted, and it's definitely a change. But TRP activity is declining, so at times, change is useful. This isn't to say this is the only course of action possible, but making changes would likely benefit the platform. Maybe the idea is to allow TRP to be whatever size it naturally becomes, but again, it doesn't have to be that.

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I don't blame you guys at all.

[–]jeunpeun993 points4 points  (7 children) | Copy

The website is still in development and will soon be ready. The structure will partly work similar as reddit does.

Ps you could better let inform yourself instead of whine on here about the new TRP location. Be glad people take initiative to make it.

[–]FrontloadPain0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

Yeah it's no loss for the site that these guys who like to be spoon fed information don't make it there. Let the lazy fucks stay here.

[–]bigmaddenguy[S] 3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy

I would categorize myself more as busy than lazy. I don't want to read every post, only the ones that seem relevant to things I want to read about. That's easier to navigate in a forum structure

[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

The point of Twitter vs forums / reddit is that the conversation is ongoing and ephemeral

It's designed for active users not browsing.

[–]FrontloadPain0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

No you're fucking lazy because you haven't bothered to read what's going on with the site before shit posting about it here.

[–]bigmaddenguy[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

If this is a "shit post," why is it one of the most popular posts there's been lately?

Some of y'all are clowns. Yes, because I should assume a random website will be overhauled--when it's more likely not to be overhauled--and waste hours of my time sifting through unorganized posts to find out whether or not it will be overhauled. Which, even after reading this thread, I believe it's under construction--but not quite sure. Shut up faggot lmao

[–]FrontloadPain0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah because popularity on asktrp says a lot about the quality of your post. There was a stickied post not long ago on the main sub that explained everything and it's among the most upvoted ones, you're just a retard

[–]bigmaddenguy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Did you not see the part where I said I hadn't been reading TRP for the last couple years except very occasionally? Now how would I have seen that lmao. You a goob bro

[–]Nateshake1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Isn’t the reddit source code open source? Why not use that?

[–]Bored0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You can revert to the old version in your settings

[–]jackandjill221 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yea, I just keep & eye out here for the occasional time when someone posts something important.

[–]SoloRetro18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm lucky that I found TRP 2-3 years ago when it was really good advice and lessons cuz now I dont need it as much so it's fine for me if it's dying. The thing is, the 80% doesn't like to see the 20% thrive. If you wanna leave the matrix, you gotta find the redpill. Be it on reddit, on a shitty designed website, or in the everyday life. Don't rely on others to make things nice and organized for you <3

[–]legitniga14 points15 points  (3 children) | Copy

A lot of guys took red pill ideals and made YouTube accounts out of them. The new people probably get initiated and communicate through YouTube comments nowadays, and the old people kinda dispersed.

[–]askmrcia4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

A lot of the Youtubers that I used to follow got their accounts deleted multiple times until they never came back. I tihnk you'll find the best redpill content on YouTube in the comment sections of videos.

They pretty much purged redpill/mgtow content from the internet. It doesn't help that the messages get watered down from young kids either.

[–]jackandjill223 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's another thing too. Alot of major people left, went into hiding their websites got shut down.

Who was the guy that got banned from here around the time Trump was running for president. The Admin/moderator here. It was featured in VOX magazine I think.

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yea. This is right

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[–]AscensionExperiments4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lots of purple pill nonsense yea

[–]boywonder20016 points17 points  (2 children) | Copy

I run into people all the time using terms like "Chad" and actually knowing what TRP is

Dude, this is cringey af. I'm not saying TRP is something like fight club where you're not supposed to talk about it, but its one thing throwing around terms like "beta", "alpha", and "chad" here versus throwing those terms out in casual conversation in real life. Honesty, anyone who uses those terms unironically in this sub, I tend to just flat out ignore. That shit right there is Incel talk, not TRP.

As far as participation in content goes, I think you can only make so many posts before you're beating a dead horse. We already have The Rational Male which is the compendium of pretty much everything you need to know. Then you have the major posts by /u/GayLubeOil and others who have compounded large amounts of information covering a wide variety of topics. Honestly, I would like to see more of people challenging the status quo by arguing against established Redpill points with actual evidence or logic. Every time a new post is made, there are always people there to counter the points OP made. But the only counterarguments I see are "Dude, read the fucking sidebar. What you're saying is Bluepill af". That is like somebody posting a scientific study with evidence supporting it, then people coming in and saying "Dude look at these old studies that say the opposite, yours is obviously wrong". Like I get that some TRP principles are based around human nature, and because of that they are static. But game theory, the theory of plating, theory of LTRs, etc. should be open to change as society changes and as this new generation of redpill guys go out and get their own experiences in the field.

[–]bigmaddenguy[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Actually it’s mostly been women I’ve heard talk about it. A class of 20 I’m in where I am one of 3 guys had a 30 minute discussion on it. I obviously kept quiet but found it very interesting internally

[–]TurnThingsInMyLife2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

who talks about it outside? betas.

[–]caP1taL1sm_4207 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'm with you, lotta weird shit going on. Back in 2016-17 was peak, it brought me realization and I had the greatest time of my life with women then. Returning in the past year aint the same

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Post quarantine you have to seek good content and connect with users you like.

TRP.red is a Twitter clone for now, but there's excellent conversation going on. You will have to get used to the presentation. It's actually useful that things disappear fast, because lazy dilettante users won't participate. I didn't like it at first either.

Reddit is not our home anymore. VasiliyZaitzev and I are planning a nice splashy event in a bit, but until then come to TRP.red and get used to it. We don't plan on being here much longer

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Really. You guys think this place is going to have to close it's doors soon?

[–]The_Junto5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

The fact that people are going around using TRP terms is exactly the reason it has died. TRP was never meant to go mainstream. I noticed the decline a few years ago when it was reaching peak popularity. I wrote a post about the declining quality of the sub and how it was becoming watered down. My post was deleted. Back in 2015 everyone seemed to understand that this what shit that you keep to yourself.

[–]318RedPill27 points28 points  (6 children) | Copy

Don't worry about where we went. When you are ready, we find you, you don't find us.

Edit: This was just supposed to be some weird ass message, as if TRP is some top secret illuminati organization or something. I wasn't thinking people would take it seriously.

[–]bigmaddenguy[S] 11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

I mean, sure, I get this in theory for beginners. But I'm not a noob to TRP--I quite literally want to find somewhere with the ideas being discussed. Lol

[–]ElegantCyclist7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

There are levels in game and Reddit's algorithm favors the new, not the old and experienced. Most guys get what they need and depart.

[–]shotcallerro9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy

The sounded so virgin and fedora

[–]cat_magnet15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

Pretty sure he was joking.

[–]PayneGreyWolf2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hey look it's the garbage that diluted the sub, right here.

[–]northernCAgrown10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

New phone who dis?

[–]bigmaddenguy[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I made a new account and wasn't a huge poster back then anyways

[–]northernCAgrown6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Was just fucking with you my man. Welcome back

[–]carb0ncl1mber2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Used to be so much great content posted. Great conversations and insights. Such a shame. The quarantine didn’t need to kill the sub, I’m not sure why it basically deflated itself.

[–]genital-love5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy

autists and virgins happened

[–]ProFriendZoner7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

But we still accept you anyways

[–]PhaedrusHunt1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's funny you kind of reminds me of TMA guys trying to get into BJJ. like no matter how many times you kick their ass they still think they're better.

Finding however is more objective than sexual strategy, because even betas can get laid so they think it's something that they were doing when it's really got more to do with the stars aligning and them getting lucky.

I took a hiatus from TRP and read it in general for the last year or so, and it's definitely a different animal than it was even 12 months ago.

You don't see as many endorsed contributors in here because they just keep having to answer the same questions over and over and over and over and over

[–]asskisser1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

/u/OmLaLa one question. Do you still think “hi” is the best way to open in dating apps? Lots has changed since you wrote your guide

[–]bigmaddenguy[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

That's about the worst way to open a conversation on a dating app

[–]asskisser0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed but the guy was written a very good guide and he always started like that

[–]supersonic-turtle1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hmm the sub seems to be pretty lively to me. My issue is it seems to have devolved quite a bit even before the quarantines. I blame the influx of angsty teens and incels screwing up the boards with terrible advice and cliche or flat out hoax questions. “My plates are so numerous but I got oneitis how do I proceed?” Or “my dick game so good I got em in droves clinging like masking tape it’s hard to ghost what do?”

[–]f43a970 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I joined around the time it was created. The quarantine had a huge impact and reddit sensoring really pushed a lot of the people with opinions/fresh opinions out of here..

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K180 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, it's gone downhill. The majority comes off as guys who only just happened to start talking to women.

As you said the best stuff is already written. It's all there.

A lot of newbie questions seem like they are by guys who don't realise they're talking about very low self esteem girls, or BPD chicks.

And then there is the 'I don't have oneitis', 'but let me write ten paragraphs on this one chick' posts.

And only text for logistics 'but critique my text game'.

I don't really see anything new of any major revelation being written.

It kind of feels like 'real hip hop' is dying.

[–]1InformalCriticism0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There has been constant change.

However, your answer is basically within your question post; you say you internalized what you needed and moved on. That is the natural process. It's the same thing with leftists on college campuses, they don't just keep going back to the same classes and learning the same things, they learn their stuff and then go out into the world with what they internalized.

Now that more and more red pilled concepts are becoming mainstream, people don't need TRP to get the same education.

[–]redmaxz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You don't really need anything new. Sidebar and recommended books are plenty, can also read some of the biggest old posts.

[–]TheBunk_TB0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

One positive thing: I think that the moderators and stalwarts have done a better job at booting LARPers. Most of the positive/achieving types are doing well instead of creating fantasy stories.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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