My brother with his gf - he’s incredibly blue pilled. Do I try to help him?

a5920 · 2019-11-30T05:11:39+00:00

Be mindful of how you approach him with this. People who don't want to be helped will resist and ignore advice. When I was blue pilled, I disregarded everything my brother and father were trying to tell me as PUA nonsense and I would never treat a woman like that blah blah blah. They were only pushing me even further into the blue pill. Then I read the Rational Male and that turned everything upside down, and I realized what they were saying was right. My recommendation is to give him the Rational Male and try to convince him to read it. Tell him it's about gender relations and will help him maintain his relationship or something. Maybe give it as an early Christmas present.

rizzyfromthe9 · 2019-11-30T04:38:06+00:00

Save him, that’s what brothers are for

Esp before he gets a ring next month

RedLegendx · 2019-11-30T04:21:06+00:00

Is she behaving? Like do you know if she does stuff for him also? Or is it all him?

creating_my_life · 2019-11-30T04:21:00+00:00

He's your brother. save his ass.

PinacoladaSauce · 2019-11-30T04:24:19+00:00

Depending on your relationship with him, I say yes. My brother and I are very close and nothing could harm our relationship so I wouldn’t have any trouble saying something to him. If you think he’d be offended and then there’d be a rift between you two then nah just leave it and be there if he asks for advice. That’s what I’d say but if I was in your shoes, I’d talk to my brother

-ThePathIsTheGoal- · 2019-11-30T05:34:08+00:00

Some people honestly have to learn by fire. You can literally try to teach and show him a more red pilled way of being, but at the end of the day, if he’s determined to live out that blue pulled Disney fantasy with a wife, kids, etc, there’s no stopping him.

Being he’s your brother though and not a friend, I see nothing wrong with doing whatever you feel is right. At the end of the day you know you were only trying to help him.

VividFall7 · 2019-11-30T12:27:58+00:00

It doesn't really seem like he's a beta? When having your girlfriend as a guest at your house, it's pretty customary to ask her if she wants something to eat or drink or something. Also giving her your sweater isn't anything beta either.

Being alpha doesn't mean being an uncaring asshole that is completely indifferent to your LTR's needs and feelings.

Alas, in my experience redpilling your brother or other relative never ends very well. Almost drove my brother to suicide.

NikGrd · 2019-11-30T05:40:06+00:00

Make sure that YOU in particular are qualified enough to give him RP advice. If you are, do it slowly and gradually. The red pill scares most people, even open-minded ones.

Friendly-Casper · 2019-11-30T04:31:04+00:00

Just sit back and watch things play out. It's never wise to try and red pill anyone, even family. If things look like she's playing him, intervene and offer some advice if he asks for it. You definitely don't want to alienate your own brother. That'd only give her more control over him.

Alpha27145 · 2019-11-30T05:30:22+00:00

Asking someone if they want anything isn't really beta, it's just being kind. Doing it to the point of annoyance is weak and over caring.

There are some larger problems you could be helping him with rather than helping him with being over polite.

GNlght · 2019-11-30T09:53:58+00:00

Stop being a degenerate and work on yourself instead of worrying about others. You can't change the circumstances anyway. Being a little too polite to someone who is in new surroundings is not beta behaviour.

You have no idea how their relationship works out otherwise and it's none of your business.

Do you have a girl? Why not?

victorgrlp99 · 2019-11-30T10:27:41+00:00

No. Some people enjoy their lives being blue pill, not everyone has the mindset to be a red pill and not everyone enjoys it. I think people here think that this is the only kind of lifestyle you can have to be happy but it's not. Everyone has to live the way they want, if he is happy then you should be happy for him

NeedRealityShock · 2019-11-30T12:23:15+00:00

Dunno if it's an issue if in his house he acts as a host , as long as she treats him as a guest in hers

MrBowlfish · 2019-11-30T16:29:50+00:00

This doesn’t sound blue pill. This sounds like comfort and welcoming. You’re confusing being blue-pilled with being nice. You can be a red-pill savage and be nice to people you know.

nixon993 · 2019-11-30T07:49:44+00:00

So if he was slapping her once an hour everything would be fine by you,right?

2019-11-30T05:41:46+00:00

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janied602 · 2019-11-30T06:37:17+00:00

I don’t see a problem as long as she is thankful and sweet.

TheStumblingWolf · 2019-11-30T13:13:35+00:00

You can lead a horse to water but you can't force it to drink.

whirling_cynic · 2019-11-30T14:17:16+00:00

I would let the relationship run its course, then give him the rational male. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

JRSBOOM13 · 2019-11-30T14:18:05+00:00

Can’t help him, every man needs to learn on his own. Do you really think he’ll be receptive to you telling him he’s acting like a beta cuck? Lol

blimp11 · 2019-11-30T14:28:48+00:00

No good deed goes unpunished

WalkToTheHills82 · 2019-11-30T14:30:34+00:00

You usually wouldn't want to force anyone or try to convince them because it will be difficult to. Most who find RP find it on their own in a time and place where they will seek for answers.

Irtotallynotrobot · 2019-11-30T15:24:49+00:00

No. If you attempt to help someone with their bluepill tendencies you are getting involved in their lives which puts you in a tenuous positions. Revealing conceptual information about how you operate makes you vulnerable, it clarifies your activity and makes you predictable. That's why they inevitably tell other people about how you're some crazy redpill guy who hates women; to gain advantage over you in social hierarchy.

Rule number 1. There is a reason why you don't break it. Stop meddling in the affairs of other, focus on yourself. Most importantly, don't interrupt the development course of his life or he will never learn.

nmbrod · 2019-11-30T06:19:07+00:00

How fucking retarded can you be? Knowing nothing about the relationship apart from your brother being considerate. What a shit stain of a human being you are - and all the advice here.

Aphexwulf · 2019-11-30T07:15:22+00:00

You can’t save BP people, not even close friends and family. If you try to force TRP down their throat, they just spit it out and cling to the BP even harder. You will be accused of being jealous of him, hating women, or “not getting it” that he’s found “the one”.

Sometimes if they’re smart, and with a little luck, they will start to question when things don’t go according to the BP fairytale. Like when he works 60 hours a week at some shitty job to support her, and then finds out she’s pregnant with Tyrone’s child and she wants to make it work out. But even that’s not a guarantee he’ll swallow TRP. There are married cucks who actively advertise for Chads and Tyrones to fuck their wives and tell themselves that they enjoy it. They will do unbelievable mental gymnastics to tell themselves that BP life is the way to be. Society will enforce those beliefs as well. Hell, even your own family will.

Focus on yourself instead, and become a better person. Be the best version of yourself, and understand that you can’t change anyone except yourself. Trying to save people from the BP only brings frustration and wasted energy.

Nergaal · 2019-11-30T09:19:37+00:00

1) You can't save someone who doesn't want to be saved

2) At best do small pointers

3) Is she getting tired of his attention? Is she traditionalistic?

ChiefFuckingBull · 2019-11-30T16:11:06+00:00

State the truth and he can iether listen, or suffer and die

mayoayox · 2019-11-30T16:28:24+00:00

Dont bother. It's none of your business, and if they're happy then you dont need to do anything.

In the wild scenario that she complains to him and he comes to you for advice, share some of your observations with him using the 2 good things, 1 bad thing method and he'll listen.

Justin12032000 · 2019-11-30T18:37:57+00:00

Nah don’t help him, let him figure it out on his own cuz he’s not gonna believe you telling him all this red pill shit

30DaystoSolstice · 2019-11-30T23:35:25+00:00

Is he always like that with her, or was he just being a good host, making sure she gets confortable in your family's home

NexusReflexX · 2019-11-30T06:42:24+00:00

You help him by leading.

Show him how you are with girls, how you treat them, and how they are all over you.

If you cant because their not, save yourself first

Diche_Bach · 2019-11-30T06:10:22+00:00

Have you fucked her? Maybe that pussy is so good it deserves some devotion and pandering?

RedLegendx · 2019-11-30T06:28:04+00:00

You should definitely start trying to help him then. Trust your instincts, if you see it being one sided it’s because it’s most likely true.

33Wolverine33 · 2019-11-30T05:51:41+00:00

Try to save him. If he will accept it.

metajenn · 2019-11-30T11:13:03+00:00

Do you guys talk to each other about your lives? If so, wait for him to bring it up. If not, start reaching out to him with general life stuff and let him come to you.

Red pill ideas are best absorbed when the person is looking for answers. If you just start spouting your opinion he's going to shut you down. Wait until he comes with a problem, if he has no problems, leave him alone.

My brother is also a giver and I see how he is with his girlfriend and it freaks me out she will take advantage of him. I keep my mouth shut until he asks me for advice. Our brothers are going to treat their women however the dynamic they've established has been set. Especially if everything is good. But maybe it's a good idea to have a book ready if shit hits the fan.

lolomotif12 · 2019-11-30T12:52:07+00:00

Are you the elder brother? I am an elder brother and I always talk to my brother and give him red pill advice. Take him out for a beer and start conversation, and just ease the knowledge onto him. If he is a good and understanding brother that respects you he will take your advice onboard. Tell him about the rational male book and see if he seems interested to read it. Make him want to read it by telling him what the book has done for you. What I'm trying to get at is we cant force opinion onto people especially when it comes to relationships and beliefs, you need to make him want to understand and be intrigued to put things into perspective.

linkofinsanity19 · 2019-11-30T16:10:34+00:00

Honestly, there's not a ton you can do. To BP people that still believe in it whole-heartedly, coming to them with the The Red Pill is like a Jehovah's Witness asking you if you've met our Lord and Savior. This is especially true for those who have a girlfriends, because they believe they're already doing it right just because some chick touches his dick occasionally and lets him spoil her with gifts, dinners, and dates.

When I was 19 and started my longest relationship I've had before TRP, I wouldn't have listened to a damn word you tried to tell me about TRP... in the beginning. Towards the end of that relationship, I was already moved in with her and her family and in under a year was considering marrying her, but fortunately didn't have the money for the level of Disney Princess wedding she thought she deserved. I was lucky enough to know simple money management at the time and told her that I needed a better paying job first. Keep in mind that during this 10 month relationship, we were both virgins saving ourselves, kinda. We fooled around a bit but we never went all the way, so I wasn't even under the influence of pussy that strongly since for me it wasn't the main factor. It was that sweet flavored Blue Pill that kept me there.

It wasn't until I got tired of her putting on weight and doing nothing about it, save for the once in a blue moon attempt at running or the occasional "Look, I'm eating a healthy meal" only to be surely followed with utter garbage less than a few hours later. This was when I realized she wasn't my princess. This is when I realized that no matter how good of a boyfriend I was, she wasn't obligated to reciprocate my covert contract of looking great for the other and that I had to break up with her. I had to realize for myself that what I was doing was not going to work or get me what I wanted. This is when I became open to knowledge and started seeking answers.

Now I didn't initially go to TRP, but Corey Wayne. Not ideal, but better than nothing. At least the dude covered testing to a degree. I could go on dates fine after that and even started having sex, but approaching was still a monumental task. When I eventually got sick of being a bitch and bitching out of a few approaches during a vacation, this is when I sought more answers. This is when I found TRP.

The point of this is, until he's at a low point in life with women, he probably won't even register what you try to tell him. He's too plugged in to hear you, and anything that gets through will still have to make it through the filter of Western feminist values.

The best you can do is live the TRP example and maybe occasionally feed him some of the more easily digestible principles. Don't overdo this or you'll get the Jehovah's Witness treatment. As bad as it is to say, hopefully this chick will cheat on him with Chad and he finds out. Then he might be ready for the truth after having it shoved in his face.

I tried Red Pilling 5 of my friends, 2 of which I consider like brothers and would die for. None of them took. One of my best friends actually accepted Rollo's book, and claimed to have read it. However, he has a girlfriend and now a child with her. When I talked to him about the book, he sounded like he read a bit, but not all. He was naturally more RP than I was growing up, but he still has a few of the fatal beliefs of BP. He doesn't want change enough yet, and that's the problem. Even if you give them books, or links to the sidebar, they won't do anything with it unless they are in a shit place. Best you can do is be there for him then.

niceguyputin · 2019-11-30T16:20:14+00:00

Very tricky, imo anyone I’ve tried to “convince”... didn’t workout well.

roughback · 2019-11-30T17:41:08+00:00

my opinion: you have to time your approach right. Wait until she cheats on him then use redpill knowledge to turn his pain and anger into a weapon.

RedPillAlphaBigCock · 2019-11-30T19:07:49+00:00

Just get him the rational male for Christmas as a "self help " book

XXXMersenne · 2019-11-30T19:31:19+00:00

"Bro... I had no idea it was this bad.. Who's the bitch in your relationship?"

"You need to start lifting and dial up the pimp in your relationship a little. Just a little. Any hot girls at work? flirt with em so you know you're in demand. The you won't be so protective of your 1 egg."

"Stop shouting, I was just joking, Relax. I'll be back in a few months telling you the same thing anyway so chilLLllL"

kclanton80 · 2019-11-30T19:33:03+00:00

No No No No No No No ......and No. you only push him closer towards her. Let him crash and burn he will learn a valuable lesson through experience.

people cannot be saved from The matrix unless they naturally recognize the matrix is present. Neo saw the matrix long before Morpheus rescued him.

You cannot force someone to see The matrix, they have to awaken on their own. Then they can be provided guidance.

VisiblePlan · 2019-11-30T19:37:47+00:00

I've helped out friends before. Just don't say the Red Pill by name. Bad reputation. It helped that my life with my revolving door of women appealed to them, and my advice seemed more backed up by evidence. So if you are still early in your Redpill journey, don't proselytize.

MartinVDK91 · 2019-12-02T14:19:03+00:00

You can only show them where the water is. I'd let him find out in his own. I made a bad experience trying to apply my thinking on to somebody else.

ceilingsky95 · 2019-11-30T04:18:18+00:00

He's applying comfort. Mind your business.

2019-11-30T05:26:20+00:00

Sucks hey... I guess the best thing to do is book him for a long weekend in Vegas, with his brother and a couple friends. Show her he's a high value man. Meanwhile.... lol

2019-11-30T05:25:30+00:00

Sucks hey... I guess the best thing to do is book him for a long weekend in Vegas, with his brother and a couple friends. Show her he's a high value man. Meanwhile.... lol

2019-11-30T05:25:42+00:00

Sucks hey... I guess the best thing to do is book him for a long weekend in Vegas, with his brother and a couple friends. Show her he's a high value man. Meanwhile.... lol

StephenHawkingsEars · 2019-11-30T09:02:18+00:00

I’d love someone to do shit for me like that. I need a beta GF.

Kizzou · 2019-11-30T13:04:55+00:00

Humor. Just start clowning him when he behaves like that. Humor can open eyes. Im not saying be cruel but instead to use humor to show the absurdity in your brothers behaviors

2019-11-30T05:25:05+00:00

Sucks hey... I guess the best thing to do is book him for a long weekend in Vegas, with his brother and a couple friends. Show her he's a high value man. Meanwhile.... lol

2019-11-30T10:56:05+00:00

I read your other comment and you mentioned gifting him the book,rational male. Incase he does not endup reading it,maybe try to bait his girl and let him learn the hard way them. Maybe that is when he will realize and learn to be a man.

putconfac · 2019-11-30T11:29:11+00:00

Brothers before Whores.

Buy him the book The Rational Male from Rollo Tomassi fortunately this will be enough to trigger him to swallow The Red Pill.

Title	My brother with his gf - he’s incredibly blue pilled. Do I try to help him?
Author	WannabeSoftwareDev
Upvotes	120
Comments	96
Date	November 30, 2019 4:17 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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