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“Wow... so uh.... you’re a lot more dominant than I was expecting.” This is a bad a thing right?

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December 6, 2019

Had sex with a Tinder slut last night. It was a first date. My 10th body count as of now, but nothing to be proud off. Id rate her a 4 or 5. I have a weakness with big goth girls so sue me. Pretty good as I broke a 2 week dry spell.

We went back to my place for drinks, made my move. An easy lay with no LMR or anything. Got her to bed, ate her out good. Wrapped it up, fucked her missionary, stopped and ate her out more, and flipped her over (somehow) and fucked her doggy. While we fucked she repeated “fuuuuuck you fuck so good”.

Went to throw the condom alway. We were both laying down and then she says “wow so uh.... fuck you were more dominating than I thought you were”.

Couple months ago same thing, tinder girl came over to my place for the first on a first date, I made a move right away, when we were done having sex, she says “wow ok so I wasn’t expecting this from you. Didn’t think you would make a move when I came over, I was expecting you to be innocent and soft”.

All of these things are bad right? They’re basically just saying “I’m pretty sure you were beta as fuck and didn’t have the balls to make a move”.

Which truth be told I still am beta. Very much. Still socially awkward, for every girl a bang on a date the previous 2 dates went to shit or got ghosted, haven’t grown a spine, hard time being dominant socially, etc. I really don’t have fuck buddies for more than a month at the most.

All that is reflecting on my dates isn’t it?

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Title “Wow... so uh.... you’re a lot more dominant than I was expecting.” This is a bad a thing right?
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Date 06 December 2019 03:17 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]northernCAgrown506 points507 points  (62 children) | Copy

Stop eating out tinder hoes on the first date or you're going to catch something

[–]TheGillos226 points227 points  (28 children) | Copy

Maybe he likes the taste of other dude's dick.

[–][deleted] 45 points46 points  (1 child) | Copy


[–]Standgrounding16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

no homo --> yes homo --> 100% homo

[–]psychotropy2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–][deleted][S] 3 points4 points  (24 children) | Copy

Is that why you all don’t like pussy eating? Cause by the logic why would you kiss another girl ever again?

[–]TheGillos32 points33 points  (0 children) | Copy

Depends on the girl. Some Tinder slut? No way.

[–]-Frank32 points33 points  (5 children) | Copy

Why are you eating out a UB 4?

[–][deleted][S] 5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy

Why not? I love eating pussy. Gives me pleasure hearing a girl uncontrollably moan and screaming out my name

[–]jajahhssgxka10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Eh just be careful of stds if you like it so be it, but it's really not worth a disease

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Beta cuck detected

[–]AttikusEUW0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Use a dental dental dam at least

[–]Ill_mumble_that16 points17 points  (11 children) | Copy

Saliva is not as infectious as vaginal discharge. At least in regards to STI.

If she doesn't present a clean STI test paper you usually want to at least test the waters a bit and look out for symptoms before munching the rug.

[–]Casanova-Quinn7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

With kissing, the only risk is herpes. With oral, the risk is all the STDs.

Don't eat out random hoes right off the bat, verify they're clean first.

[–]TheeSakred9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

Eating out should be an LTR thing only, or for 9+

[–]Massap242 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Stop pedestalling 9s cuck

[–]TheeSakred-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Let me guess, you watch YouTube videos on how to be an alpha male 😂

[–]HotelMohelHolidayInn34 points35 points  (0 children) | Copy

Had sex with a Tinder slut

ate her out good


Went to throw the condom away

Wait a second..

[–]Zombiespire9 points10 points  (15 children) | Copy

Out of curiosity what are your prerequisites to eat a girl out? Because I'm super into it.

[–]TFWnoLTR33 points34 points  (11 children) | Copy

A bunch of dudes around here are convinced you'll get oral cancer from eating pussy.

If you enjoy it and shes clean, go for it.

[–]Zombiespire20 points21 points  (8 children) | Copy

Obviously but the question "if she's clean" applies to anyone. I was wondering if he didn't do cunnilingus unprotected with any first dates or speciffically tinder thots.

[–]TFWnoLTR12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy


Well, as a cunningulus enthusiast myself, I don't think I've ever gone down on a first date. In fact, it's usually not until that extra level of excitement from her still being "new pussy" is fading that I bring it to that level. By then I've had enough experience with her vagina to have seen signs if something is off about it, and if something was, I'd be more inclined to next her than go downtown.

Once I'm at that point its just a matter of creating or awaiting an opportunity where she has recently showered and is clean from head to toe. Nothing ruins a first impression like crotch sweat.

As far as signs to avoid: always being able to smell her pussy while you're fucking her especially when it isn't a good pussy smell, her trying to avoid letting you get a look at the goods, her asshole always stinking (bad hygene in that area usually spreads to the other area), excessive bush is her way of saying stay away, her scratching it or signs it itches often, and last but not least, if it's actually a penis.

[–]alittletoosmooth4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Damn, she was almost in the clear until that last test

[–]HotelMohelHolidayInn4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy

OP is foolish for doing that, though.

What's the point in wrapping your dick and still eating a random "Tinder slut" out, even if he only wore a rubber as contraception?

"Hey guise, I only have gonaherpasypyhlaids on my mouth, but my dick is cool."

[–]Zombiespire-2 points-1 points  (4 children) | Copy

So you are actually significantly less likely to be infected from STDs from cunnilingus as compared to actual sex. This is due to the fact many STDs require exposure to the vaginal walls and more often the uterus. That means the main diseases to be wary of are those present on the surface level of the vagina. Of course it is still possible to be infected from cunnilingus, but much less likely. Not saying you should throw caution to the wind with that in mind, just explaining the logic of those who use condoms but still perform oral.

[–]HotelMohelHolidayInn1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

still perform oral

You're right, people should put on bulletproof vests after they get shot.

[–]Zombiespire0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

This article is based on oral sex as a whole in all demographics for both genders. It even says in your article that cunnilingus does not carry nearly the same risk as fellatio which entirely serves my argument.

As for your analogy, people typically don't wear helmets and goggles to grocery shop either.

[–]HotelMohelHolidayInn0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

same risk

That's not the reason for me posting it.

grocery shop

This is why you can't use logic with women, gents.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

A bunch of dudes around here are convinced you'll get oral cancer from eating pussy.

Usually that group overlaps with the one that won't even come near a pussy, let alone stick their tongue into one.

[–][deleted]  (2 children) | Copy


[–]Zombiespire1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Makes sense. Do you have a purposeful conversation that "we are officially an item" or is that something you just decide mentally after you've been dating long enough?

[–]LazerSpin17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed. Rub that pussy, make sure she’s wet, then go for it. Wat her at the end if you really feel she earned it. Otherwise imtake care of your pkeasure first. It’s not like you are likely to see her again.

[–][deleted][S] 15 points16 points  (7 children) | Copy

Can’t help it. Makes me feel primal and as a result leads me to perform better.

[–]i-am-the-prize13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

I get that, but be careful.

[–][deleted]  (4 children) | Copy


[–][deleted][S] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

No why would it? Look out of the 10 body counts I’ve had, only 1 girl had bad hygiene. It’s not all that common, at least for me so far it isn’t. I’ll never ask out a dirty looking girl.

[–]PuleaSpataru694 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's not about bad Hygiene. But it's urine, sweat. It cant taste like nothing. Unless it's right after shower.

[–]Heybuddyyyyyy2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Did u still eat the dirty one's cooch? Yea....u did!! Nasty Lil boy...don't worry one of my friends especially likes the funk!!!

[–]Ill_mumble_that0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I too prefer the funk. But I also make her do ATM. I'm nasty.

[–]riggedved0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I thought the same thing after reading the post. Yuck.

[–]Lambdal70 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Not really except herpes (if you are vacinnated against hpv) and the chance for that is really low.

Everything else you can cure in a few days of taking medicine.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy


[–][deleted][S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

What’s horseshit? I’m curious who you’re replying to cause I value your opinion a lot vandaalen. Haha

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Eating out a woman isnt dominant either. Its pretty disgusting for the most part.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFereallyRed60 points61 points  (10 children) | Copy


[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten88 points89 points  (9 children) | Copy

What red means is "the overall image you present is incongruous with your sexual self"

TRP is iterative, you've gotten the fucking part down but still need to focus on frame and presentation. Basically, your marketing is confusing the girls.

[–][deleted][S] 9 points10 points  (8 children) | Copy

How do I focus on frame and presentation?

Also, can you expand on my marketing is confusing girls?

[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten29 points30 points  (1 child) | Copy

You're advertising yourself as socially passive, but then active and dominant in bed. This is what draws the comments in your OP.

There are a million posts on frame, it's probably the most important intermediate RP topic. Go to red's profile, his personal subreddit is all curated content. Search for frame and skim a few posts until something jumps out at you, then slowly and carefully read that one.

[–]Standgrounding1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

How can one market himself as a socially active person?

(And have you seen "Yes Man"? are these 2 concepts somehow related in anyway?)

[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten14 points15 points  (4 children) | Copy

[–][deleted][S] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Thanks dude! Really appreciate helping me out like this.

Honestly I’ve focused too much on Game articles and books and not enough onto the frame. Cause I got a lot more to read cause this will be my biggest challenge yet. Even bigger than eating right or lifting.

[–]Ill_mumble_that3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

When you have frame. You don't need game.

Frame is bigger than anything else. You can be a fatass with pimples, but if you have frame, they'll crave sex with you.

Think of it line a girl at work. There are no female entrepreneurs. They need the structure, they crave it. Historically it's not that big a deal, except right now it's everything. There are so many pussy footed men that don't have any frame, if you have it you are special and different.

[–]johnexperience1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Congruence, this comes in hand with your self perception and security in yourself, how you get validation from others, after resolving that you should be able to construct a frame, with your beliefs and principles and not be fucking sensitive if you are wrong, you are progressing which is good, enjoy the journey

[–]mrpthrowa117 points118 points  (4 children) | Copy

big goth girls

ate her out good


[–]zenman12316 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

  • tinder thot

[–]DrizzlyShrimp3629 points30 points  (0 children) | Copy

hahahahhaha same

[–]Ill_mumble_that13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

I like to eat them out after I give them a good bareback creampie. Like a good champagne, it's better on a cold day.

[–]mrpthrowa2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

[–]__TheDon__31 points32 points  (18 children) | Copy

Develop a more masculine look. Lifting should fix that problem.

[–]TheGillos17 points18 points  (17 children) | Copy

OP can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm getting the vibe he probably talks in a feminine, wimpy way. Lacks eye contact. Bad posture. Apologizes and is unsure.

[–][deleted][S] 8 points9 points  (16 children) | Copy

I don’t know about feminine. I’m a 6’4 Mexican with a naturally deep voice. Wimpy? Maybe.

I would say I’m good at eye contact. Bad posture I try be aware of. I’m always constantly fixing it in public. I don’t really apologize but unsure sounds about right to be honest.

[–]no_re-entry5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

height has nothing to do with it, you could be tall and lanky.

more ideas--

could be how they see you interact with other people besides them on these dates as well

[–]TheGillos2 points3 points  (13 children) | Copy

You're blessed with height, voice, and skin that looks great tanned. Good you're working on that. Get to the gym, eat well (no stupid vegan shit), you'll start seeing confidence grow. Until then less is more. I'm a firm believer in pick your words, keep it brief, and let her imagination fill in your mystery.

[–]izaacibanez97-2 points-1 points  (6 children) | Copy

you do know animal products contain a ridiculous amount of saturated fats and cholesterol.

[–]TheGillos0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Yes, and?

[–]izaacibanez971 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

so maybe that “vegan shit” is actually healthier for you than it sounds.

[–]uwotm8910 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Lol relax, vegan. Red meat and eggs won’t kill you.

[–]izaacibanez970 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

they will tho. cardiovascular disease is a thing

[–]uwotm8910 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I’m sure we could both find studies that refute each other’s assertion...but why go to the trouble? We can agree to disagree on the topic.

[–]TheGillos-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I have no problem with veggies. But a diet without eggs, fish, meat, and dairy is not for me. Plus if you look at blue zones (long living communities) only 1 is vegetarian. The others have plenty of animal products.

[–]no_re-entry-4 points-3 points  (4 children) | Copy

hell yeah no vegan shit!

Did you see that Arnold Schwarzenegger went vegan? R.I.P. muscles

[–]TheGillos0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

I don't believe him. He's probably eating a steak right now.

[–]no_re-entry-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Maybe so but it’s bad propaganda for the carnivores in the world....

[–]TheGillos-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

True. It's not the first, it won't be the last.

Whatever, tonight I'm having steak, blue cheese, picked eggs, and beer.

[–]PhaedrusHunt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The best thing you can do for a posture is pull ups and push ups and neck rolls.

You chest and shoulders will open up and get more flexible and your shoulders will naturally be drawn back more you'll stand up straighter you'll be taller.

[–]Don_Draper2716 points17 points  (6 children) | Copy

You're overthinking it. Obviously you display enough alpha traits to get these girls to your place on the first date. If they saw you as beta they would've came up with some excuse to leave the date early.

I think you're going from 0 to 100 too fast. Sure, you're getting results but in your head you think you're beta and you're faking the alpha traits and in their eyes they feel like you're alpha and you only pretended to be beta to get them to your place.

Be very careful with your intensity on the first fuck. Most girls will be okay with it but it only takes 1 instance for you to spend hundreds / thousands of dollars on a lawyer because you were accused of sexual assault.

Focus more on vetting your girls properly vs. adding to your notch count.

[–]red_philosopher-3 points-2 points  (5 children) | Copy

Most girls will be okay with it but it only takes 1 instance for you to spend hundreds / thousands of dollars on a lawyer because you were accused of sexual assault.

Record them on your phone. If they are moaning the whole time and say things like "ohhhh you fuck so good. . ." the whole time, there's no chance in hell that's going anywhere.

[–][deleted]  (1 child) | Copy


[–]alittletoosmooth0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

What if my only move is a jackhammer 360° piledrive?

[–]Don_Draper270 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

In some areas it is against the law to record someone without their consent.

It is better evidence to have a text exchange after the interaction. Something as simple as: "Hey I had a great time. Let's meet up again soon."

her: "Yeah me too (;"

Screenshot and email to yourself.

[–]red_philosopher3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sure, but would you rather go down for sexual assault/rape and spend hundreds / thousands trying to clear your name, or would you rather them try and pin you for something way less severe?

I know my choice.

And then you have evidence that it was a straight up fabrication, and can take her to court for perjury and other damages. It's no longer a he-said she-said.

[–]PuleaSpataru6930 points31 points  (5 children) | Copy

Have fun dying of throat cancer

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[–]PuleaSpataru6910 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy


[–]Greaterbird3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah you know me

[–]PhaedrusHunt7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

He's talking about getting HPV from eating out every chicken meats off Tinder

[–]Domebeers4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you act 'like a gentleman' on the date and then act like a 'sexual savage' when you get her back home you will get these comments. I get these comments because I do that jekel and hyde act.

Ie if youre laid back and chill on the date and then youre tying her up and tossing her around when you get her home you will get this stuff. I'm not sure it's a frame or lack of frame thing as is being suggested in other comments. Especially considering these are ONS stuff, if your frame was so 'terrible' they wouldn't be coming over to begin with.

[–]PIGamer862 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

“I have a weakness with big goth girls so sue me.”

This reminds me of the phrase ReAl MeN lOvE wOmEn WiTh CuRvEs! Nah, a man loves whatever he wants.

[–]PUA_Fan17 points18 points  (43 children) | Copy

I tell you what bro.. After i learned pickup my game was shit(19 y/o) when i started to throw away useless pickup habits and started working out(+sprinting is very important) my game changed into this masculine raw physical game. Basically was making fatties suck my dick in 15 mins etc. :D

Was cognitive disonance for me because before i thought i needed to chat with girls and now i was pulling them in university toilets :D (at 21 y/o)

Felt like God himself rly

[–]vngus71 points72 points  (25 children) | Copy

Don't ever brag about making fat girls blow you, lol...

[–]PUA_Fan10 points11 points  (24 children) | Copy

Hey man whatever, shit happens, was young horny kid

Its not like they dont have their betas now :D

[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten52 points53 points  (18 children) | Copy

If the spergs here would just go fuck a slutty 5 or get fattie head their whole journey would progress much faster

Instead they want to go straight for 8s and fuck it up, throwing them right back into rage pill and stagnation

[–]LeatherBoundWisdom13 points14 points  (11 children) | Copy

As a former sperg who started out fucking 5s, I emphatically agree.

[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten23 points24 points  (9 children) | Copy

Yep. It gets you to "oh shit, it's just pussy" real fast.

I had a fraternity brother in college who had basically zero standards. His standard was "it all feels the same". Interestingly, this put his Not Giving A Fuck at maximum overdrive.

So yeah, he smashed plenty of fat Asians (that was his go to, lmao especially the wrestling managers) but would pull all kinds of quality stuff because he knew he was a "come over" text away from sex on demand.

He ended up LTRing his future wife (whose virginity he took) his senior year, who is a joy to be around and they're happy together.

I'd say that guy did a great job sexual strategy wise

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Sounds like a guy I knew, straight up fucked everything, even a cripple girl. Sure the strategy can work if your objective is to get laid, but god damn if he isnt the most useless undriven and sad excuse for an individual.

[–]Ill_mumble_that1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Sex is my primary motivator. I used it to.create my current business and I keep using it to thrive.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

An exception to the rule, in sure it would be an interesting trp post.

[–]LeatherBoundWisdom1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

I joined a fraternity this semester and that sounds exactly like me lol. I don't know what it is, the Asian and Indian girls are very loose. Maybe rebellion against strict immigrant parents.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

Asian and Indian girls are very loose.

awalt mate, indian chicks are the biggest sluts

  • Indian guy who was super bp and thought they were so pure and shit until i discovered trp. Chicks here in college dress fully and cover their skin so much but let you finger bang them any moment they get some privacy.

[–]i-am-the-prize5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

Chicks here in college dress fully and cover their skin so much but let you finger bang them any moment they get some privacy.

crazy. only been with one indian girl (dot not feather) and same, from 20 min of flirting in a student lounge/study area in a dorm at Uni, both freshman, to fingering her and getting head behind the couch at the end of the room, on the floor. WTF. college was a blast...

[–]LeatherBoundWisdom4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

dot not feather


[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

there are some very very reserved girls out here as well but thats some 5 in 100 here now,it used to be very different before when the cancer of feminism did not exist. Chicks used to be virgins till getting married etc.

[–]damaged_goods4203 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Real talk

[–]vngus3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

You'll learn nothing from fucking fat easy women. It's really no different than beating your meat. An easy route.

[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

An INTERMEDIATE guy has nothing to learn. A college virgin? Different story.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

I disagree. In wrestling, most new wrestlers start competing at a novice tournament so they can get a feel for how things work. Then they work their way up to JV, then varsity, and increasingly difficult levels of competition as their skill increases. If your first competition is a tough tournament, you're going to get your ass kicked and lose confidence; however, working your way up the food chain builds confidence over time.

If you aren't a natural with women, then starting with fatties or other low value women is a good route to build experience and confidence on the way to better looking, higher quality women. Lower value women are also easier, so it helps in maintaining a mentality of abundance. Personally, I don't like fucking fat women, but I'll bang uglier chicks with great bodies because it's fun and helps me maintain a mindset of abundance.

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[–]LethalShade1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The guys I know that get laid the least are the most picky. They won't even go talk to a girl that's a 6-7 but have never made out with a girl in their life.

Blows my mind 🙉

[–][deleted][S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Do you still bang the fatties?

Like others have said it really helps with that abundance feeling but that’s because in my journey so far my SMV hasn’t been risen enough to regularly bang even 7s:

[–]PUA_Fan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I would bang 7s in the same time just took little more time to seduce

[–]PUA_Fan-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy

Its not that i was bangin chubbies... Its.. I was so horny bcus of testosterone i was basically rapin them... And they enjoyed it

[–]ColossalEngineer-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

bro thats fucked up, get some help you douche

[–]PUA_Fan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Go mgtow bro TRP is amoral

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

good morning pussyslayer

[–][deleted][S] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

So what you’re saying in a nutshell is:

Lifting and Fitness is the best Game there is?

[–]i-am-the-prize8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

no, Game is for when you are engaged in Conversation and are interacting.

Getting: fit, ripped, strong - gets you to the convo easier - if you approach from the front, or she sees you from across the room/bar/pooldeck/party - your physical appearance (body/face/fashion) is all she has to 'go by' to rate you. It's been said: she's already decided if she's willing to talk to you before you open your mouth, based on how you look.

Once you open your big mouth, then Game takes over. You have to be "good looking enough" to get to the Game stage, at a minimum. Being really good looking, buys you some latitude, but it's not required, plenty written on that.

[–]Standgrounding0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Best relaxation routine / hobby there is

[–]SuperiorDrip2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy

Why is sprinting important?

[–]Adorable_FecalSpray14 points15 points  (4 children) | Copy

Heavy compound lifts (squats, deadlift, ohp, bench press) + Sprints will build your muscle and strength, will help shed fat and increase your cardio endurance. All important things for looks as well as actually being able to put into action in bed.

T-Nation has some good articles on Sprinting while lifting.

[–]Ireallydownknowhey0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Sprinting won't shed fat lol, weight loss/ gain is determined by your calorie intake.

[–]PUA_Fan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Well you are stupid then

[–]PUA_Fan4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sprinting and swimming is great for that chiseled low body fat slayer look :)

[–]WinterRice0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

How often are you sprinting? What does that routine look like? I’m trying to incorporate it more, I’ve mainly been doing long distance.

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[–]WinterRice0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Great, appreciate it.

[–]SleazeballG0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Those girls must have a strong stomach. I can't even go to uni bathrooms without having a disgusted face

[–]PUA_Fan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah i guess u study in mexico or africa right :D

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[–]red_philosopher8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Not everything that comes out of their mouth is a lie you know.

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[–]LLL3peat2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Simple. 6’4” 212. Depends on your body fat and what clothes you wear. There’s a difference between looking decent , prepped to impress, and like a gentleman compared to someone who dresses a little more causal with a hint of edginess to them.

Clean cut with button up and freshly pressed clothes is awesome and amazing. Depends on the girl. Usually this makes the woman want a relationship/lovey passionate sex

Slight 3 o clock shadow with simple good fitting T shirt and something that screams mysterious/dominating (usually my black rocker studs do the trick with cloth belt) screams presentable but what’s this emo/dad side that’s slightly there? Usually this leads to animalistic sex and the response you are experiencing.

Figure out your edge. Goth emo girls show it, show yours a little and continue to have fun

[–]thrwy754796 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dominance requires energy.

A lot of CEO types have submissive fantasies because being socially dominant all the time wears you out. They eroticize the feeling of relinquishing control, as pointed out by Seltzer:

What’s perhaps most interesting in all this is the psychological relief that many alpha males in socially dominant positions experience in identifying with the submissive role. Fantasizing themselves as “liberated” from all the responsibilities that go with functioning in dominant professional roles offers them a respite from always having to be in control. And, of course, because they get to choose the fantasy material that most turns them on, they haven’t really given up control in such a way that might produce anxiety. So it’s something like having their cake and eating it, too. It’s certainly significant that Ogas and Gaddam emphasize that BDSM play, unlike other sexually ritualistic practices, isn’t generally geared toward inducing orgasm. Instead, it’s about taking care of a need—which, I would add, has been fervidly eroticized. You might even call the whole thing an “alpha holiday.”

Look at how you feel after fucking. If you're like most people, you're relaxed, and perhaps tired. This is why guys that are getting pussy are chill, and laid back. There's less angst due to a lack of sexual frustration.

The key is to find that optimal spot where your behaviours don't signal 'wimp', and you're not coming off as a try-hard dom, being a dick to everyone, which, apart from creating negative social consequences, can be exhausting.

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[–]SteveStJohn0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Remember with woman "it just happens" so of course they'll say they were not expecting it.

This should have more upvotes.

[–]XT3M31 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

you fucked her did you not? how can that be a bad thing. you managed to get her into your bed and fucked. a true beta wouldnt even be allowed to bring her back.carry on with what you are doing.

[–]1XXXMersenne1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

You were being a fag over the course of the interaction before you guys fucked and so they expect you to be consistent with that.

Since you posted this & don't lift, it's clear this was not satire on your part.

The issue here is one of congruence, which you lack. You need to be consistent in your frame & behaviour, but if you lack character this is difficult because you have no frame to stick to in the first place and your conveyed personality is the equivalent of a bunch of TRP one liners.

You need to wake up so:

[–][deleted][S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

But why would she fuck me then if I was being a fag?

[–]1XXXMersenne3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Because she's a big goth grrl and she's used to being around scary faced nougat balled emos

[–]SteveStJohn0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Read cool shit

Julius Evola, was an Italian philosopher, painter, poet, esotericist, and occultist. He has been described as a "fascist intellectual", and as having been "the leading philosopher of Europe's neofascist movement."

Sounds like a fun guy.

[–]11-Eleven-111 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Who cares?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Is it me or does this guy sound like a fucking douchebag?

[–]FUCK_YEA_GLITTER0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Probably because he's talking about how the girls were saying he fucks them well, and your ego is somehow getting in the way. I had the same thought

[–]TFWnoLTR0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's not a bad thing. I've had a few girls say that before too. It just means you don't come off as aggressive until the moment is right.

Don't start judging yourself over comments like that.

[–]Nevermindever0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

How many were 7-10?

[–][deleted][S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Only 2.... or if I’m being honest with myself just 1.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

The answer is 0, ZEROOOO

[–]HurricaneHugues0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy

Im assuming you're fairly attractive. It's your game leading up ti the encounter that made you seem weak. Either you weren't sexual and upfront enough initially, or you texted way too much.

[–][deleted][S] 2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy

Well it’s not texting too much for sure. I’ve gotten comments from girls I matched with saying “I’m not going with you, we don’t know each other and you don’t even bother to text me to get to know me, I’ll go out with you if we talk more before”. In cases like that I usually move on.

Even when I do go out with girls some of them say “I’m surprised you wanted to go out and meet. Most guys just keep texting and never ask me out.” Or “wow you actually use tinder to meet?”.

Yeah more than likely it’s my game.... or not attractive enough to pull off a “fuck on the first date” move smoothly.

[–]HurricaneHugues0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

How tall are you? Do you lift and dress nice? How are your tinder pictures?

[–][deleted][S] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

6’4 ft tall.

I dress casually. Mostly either long sleeve or short sleeved Polos that have one solid color, non-collar most of the time. But I’ll wear collar as well.

Most of my jeans are Levi’s. Not tight or too lose. Just fine. Last I wore black ones with a nice Slayer sweatshirt.

I guess my tinder pics are average. I’m sitting on 45 matches so far since Sunday when I downloaded.

Admittedly I do not life, which would solve my problem. I lifted consistently PPL 6x a week during summer and lost some good weight. I was fat last year you see. 252 Ib. Got down to 202 Ib.

But college has really taken my time. Haven’t lifted in 3 months, and eaten shitty again. I’m at 212 Ib currently. I regret it but don’t regret it at the same time. Really focused this year and gotten good grades. Even got an A on one of them and maybe get another A if I do well in this final exam.

[–]HurricaneHugues2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

"Admittedly I do not lift"

[–]alphakari0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Best way to incorporate lifting in college is to conquer your mornings.

[–][deleted][S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Man I’ve been thinking this. What hour is a good one you think?

[–]alphakari0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Depends on your gym availability and when they open.

For me, earliest time the gym opens is 5:30, so I wake at 4:30. My obligations need me out the door at 11 (Ie: Already showered, stuff prepped), and I get back home from the gym around 8.

What I know is when I don't wake up before 7, my mood is just that bit worse because even if I have an excuse, feels like I already failed once that day. There is something really powerful about hearing your alarm, not hitting snooze, and getting up to do what you gotta do. Sets the pace for what the day is about.

[–][deleted][S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

My gym is 24/7. Hmm. Gonna try maybe 6 o clock myself.

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[–]2INNASKILLZ2K180 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Reflect. What is it about your behaviour, do you think, that is making them think you're 'beta'?

There should be plenty of stuff you can identify and change up.

[–][deleted][S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Man I just think I’m not skilled on speaking smoothly, and suck at continuing a conversation. And I don’t think I’m fun. I usually stick the safe topics, like work, what school you went to, hobbies and shit.

I’m constantly feel like I’m putting up a performance in a social interaction I’m in. Whether it’s with a guy or a woman. Constantly worried if I’m being boring not not entertaining them.

Basically I’m dull, and very self conscious of my personality and poor socials skills, which hinders me even more

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K180 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Ok. What have you read? Book of Pook is great. Models and Bang by Roosh V are all good.

You're aware of some problems. Self doubt and self conscious seem the big ones. Keep reading so you get more info and hopefully can expand your interactions.

Edgy is good, cocky funny, sexualizing at the right time, teasing. There are tools to give your interactions a totally different emotional vibe.

[–][deleted][S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Man I’ve ready everything. Book of spook, Models, How to be 3% Man, Rational Male, Day Bang, Game, The Manual and a couple other PUA books.

But every time I got on a date with the mindset of “ok so I’m going to fix this behavior and stop saying this and that and behaving like this” my brain malfunctions and revert back to its beta self. Like I’ve gone on maybe 20-25 dates first dates this past year, and I feel like I’ve made absolutely no progress cause my brain isn’t allowing me too. It’s very difficult to apply all the things I read.

These 10 body counts have been nothing but pure luck. And only 4 of them let to a FWB/plate/fuck buddy status. And usually it was me being dropped when it ended. And the other 6 were just ONS, despite trying to hookup again on my part.

This one from last night will no doubt be a ONS as well. Not gonna even try to contact her.

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K180 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There is something. Some simple mentality you haven't internalized.

Also, stop beating yourself up. Your numbers aren't THAT bad. It sounds like you're starting to judge yourself harshly, as label YOU a failure.

That's only going to make things harder. For myself, I have failures, fuckups, but I let it builds my :IDGAF and Outcome independence.

The less I dwell and blame myself, the less invested in the whole thing I am. That attitude carries into my next interactions

Instead of thinking 'oh, I fucked up before so I really want to get this right and not fuck up', I'm thinking, 'y'nkow, I fucked up before but I don't really care. All good. So let's just have fun in this fickle game'.

Women sense the laid back vibe. It's not because I'm super confident it'll work out, but because I got cool with the idea it might fail.

[–]psychotropy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you're getting laid, you're doing something right. Wanna get more confident? Do shit that raises your self-esteem/confidence lifting, working out, etc. Also get more dangerous. Take up jiu-Jitsu, Boxing, Kickboxing, Judo, anything in which youth learn to handle yourself physically. Nothing turns a girl on more , or at minimum gets their attention, than when they know you can handle yourself around other men/protect her.

[–]RedHoodhandles0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ugh. What it is this kindergarden.. You're trying to tell me that you fuck ugly sluts gooood while wrapping the question if being dominant is bad.

Ok boy. Being dominant is bad. Fucking ugly sluts is good. Eating out random tinder hoes and selling me your external point of origin is perfect. Darwin ftw.

[–]AV_Empire0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's better to be a covert dominant than an overt bitch male.

[–]dadfrombrad0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

if shes a 4 or 5 u shouldnt care really, they like to u down because they are the ugly one and ur the attractive one

[–]Haytch12340 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Why the fuck would you eat pussy? Especially tinder sluts? You are going to catch some shit in your throat. Smarten up.

Anyway, its not a bad thing. She still met up with you and let you fuck her. Any pre conceived idea she had of you not being dominant is irrelevant if she let you fuck her

[–]spaghettbaguett0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I hope your using dental dams when you eat a girl out, because: giving pleasure lasts for hours, max, unlike an STD.

[–]Drainstink0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lol wtf. Eating tinder sluts is one thong but eating out a fat slamhog u admit is 5/10 so really means 4/10.


[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

I am sorry if youre super sensitive but I just cant hold back with this one. SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU SIMP. A girl tells you that you broke her expectations and you immediately simp back to "urgh her preconceptions of me were wrong". You dumb mother fucker, half the reason they were so willing is because of those preconceptions, and then you only make them like you more when you dom them in the bedroom. How can u be in trp and not understand this shit god fucking dammit. Keep fucking fat bitches tho, I am sure that has nothing to do with your low self esteem.

[–]PUA_Fan3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Based and redpilled

[–]red_philosopher0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Anger phase is too real.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Anger phase is where redpilled men are angry at women, are you dumb? Where am I displaying anger for anyone other than the simp that is OP

[–]RevolutionRose0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

My 10th body count as of now

Is this what they're calling it these days? I think this is flat out sick.

[–]Spaghetti1776-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bro why the fuck would you eat a woman out who’s had another dick in her? You don’t know shit about her. Wait until you decide to get married to a bitch or whatever for that shit. God damn I almost fucking threw up. Eating it a fucking 4-5. Yea I’d rather have a 20 year dry spell.

I’m guessing the willingness to do that is part of the “hehe I thought you were more beta”. Also even if you are beta, never admit it, that’s beta. Try being more self centered and self serving.

Look in the mirror and make deep eye contact with yourself while you wank. “God I look like a fucking statue. If you can’t cum thinking about yourself then you’re basically gonna be beta forever. Nah really though think about yourself more. Good luck.

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