The propaganda still effects me to this day

mein-shekel · 2019-04-14T05:02:10+00:00

The further i distance myself from social media and redpill, the more alien its worldview looks. It gets easier. Its like a reverse mirage. The closer you are to it, the more real it is. The further you get, the harder it is to understand why someone would fall for it. At least that's my experience.

roguish_rogue · 2019-04-14T10:25:22+00:00

I am very sympathetic to the guys who go looking for something like TRP or Pickup Artistry, its usually guys who are confused and in alot of pain, usually because they had already been on a misguided path because they bought into alot of pop-culture nonsense in regards to men/women and were understandably frustrated.

In my experience female friends will ask for favors and need help with things alot more than male friends, and are more likely to want to have long conversations that can sometimes be draining. I just say I dont have time, to avoid being the "boyfriend without the sex", but I dont blame the girls, men and women are simply different, if I play into a dynamic that annoys me thats my responsibility. I have told girls outright that I dont want to be the guy she only calls when she is sad and needs to vent or when she wants help with something, but I have also have had to tell male friends something like that(tho rarely).

raziphel · 2019-04-14T18:33:44+00:00

Recognize these feelings as intrusive thoughts and treat them accordingly. Lead yourself away from it calmly, as if you were gently correcting a puppy. "No brain, we know that is not true. Think of [this thing] instead."

Another method is the Spock method. Imagine Spock counseling you. "That is illogical, Captain. Your friends care about you, and if they were upset about something, they would tell you so it could be resolved."

Perhaps they ask you to do things because they consider you reliable and trustworthy. If you ask things of them (of a similar nature), do they do it for you? If so, that is the standard give and take of any relationship. There's absolutely nothing wrong with doing nice things for people, and frankly... that is literally the crux of Dale Carnegie's book "How to Win Friends and Influence People."

But yes, that's what cult programming does. It's insidious and preys on our insecurities. You get through that by building trust, self-respect, and self-worth within yourself. Show yourself that you are valuable. Do things you enjoy that are challenging, and succeed.

Also, examine those core emotions, look for the deeper roots, and address those as best you can. For example, do you have a fear of abandonment? Everyone has things like that hiding in the background of their minds, and the best way to deal with that is to do so directly, and ideally with the help of a professional.

cagedtiger999 · 2019-04-14T08:28:33+00:00

Yeah I'm a recovering redpilled person too. The way to cope is to examine your emotions carefully. Are you getting more cross with them than male friends? More disappointed when they cancel?

The truth is subconsciously you want to have sex with them all. It's natural to want that and part of man's biological makeup and not something to be ashamed of.

It can be really hard to remove the possibility of sex from female companionship and be 100% plutonic.

My advice is to think carefully which of those female friends, if they got in a long term relationship with a good man would you be seriously happy for. If you'd be jealous - then everything about beta orbiter and friend zone is probably true.

BiggestOfBosses · 2019-04-14T21:29:15+00:00

TRP says that all women want is to use you, that's false of course. But if you feel used by people then you're being used, why does it matter if they're men or women?

TheMadWoodcutter · 2019-04-14T16:12:36+00:00

You are what you surround yourself with.

redditicantrecall · 2019-04-16T02:50:53+00:00

Yea, try the Purple Pill. It's a balance between the Blue Pill and the Red Pill, and makes the most sense imo.

[deleted] · 2019-04-28T18:29:27+00:00

Ignorance is bliss, at least that's what people say.

Title	The propaganda still effects me to this day
Author	LeRedditGentlesir
Upvotes	19
Comments	17
Date	April 14, 2019 3:03 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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