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How Do You Guys Even Trust Your Girl?

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December 30, 2019

I started reading the Red Pill side bar again a few weeks ago. After reading almost everything there, I wonder how do you guys even trust your girl isn't gonna cheat on you for a guy with higher SMV even if you're doing everything possible to up your own?

I know I should NGAF but at the same time I think I'll feel betrayed if I trust my girlfriend and then she does something to betray that trust. How do you deal with that feeling?

Sounds like I have no balls, I know, but I'm just genuinely asking a question about trust here.

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Title How Do You Guys Even Trust Your Girl?
Author AttractiveMofo
Upvotes 18
Comments 58
Date 30 December 2019 02:51 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children) | Copy

[–]part_wolf22 points23 points  (5 children) | Copy

The short version is, I only trust my wife to do what’s in her best interests. Then I work as hard as possible toward my mission in a way that puts me in the position to be her best possible option by far. If you understand what your woman needs and wants, it’s not difficult to incorporate those things into your mission if you so choose.

[–]Onein1024th12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

I wonder how do you guys even trust your girl isn't gonna cheat on you for a guy with higher SMV even if you're doing everything possible to up your own?

Dude, she should be wondering if YOU'RE cheating, not the other way around. Get your shit together. 12 Steps of Dread. Do you even have an active social life apart from her? Are you involved in a group that gets you out with others away from her once a week?

[–]cholomiteMod / BP Downvote Magnet24 points25 points  (6 children) | Copy

The only thing I trust my gf to do is to act like a woman in any given situation.

[–]AttractiveMofoNever Listens[S] 2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

What do you mean by that?

[–]cholomiteMod / BP Downvote Magnet14 points15 points  (3 children) | Copy

Briffaults law, branch swinging, being the most responsible teenager in the house....etc.

She will be abiding by those principles in any given situation. Will she immediately jump ship if a hotter guy smiles at her? Probably not, but don't expect her to throw her drink in his face either. My gf knows my boundaries, all you can do is lay them out for her and try to not let her make you look like a bitch. If she does, cut her loose, if she abides by them, then reward her by being an awesome man.

Your real problem is that you have oneitis and lack confidence and frame. Work on those and spend less time worrying about what your girl is up to.

[–]RStonePT5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Jesus, when did you come back? I've not seen you on here for a hot minute!

[–]cholomiteMod / BP Downvote Magnet0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Glad to see you're still here too.

Just got a little busy with personal stuff, plus some burn out from telling newfags the same shit over and over again. I can see not a lot has changed, but I should be around a little more now.

[–]mrpmonk2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Being the most responsible teenager

This is gold. Now matter where it gets written, I chuckle and remind myself who we are really dealing with!

[–]SorcererKingMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fuck you. Go read the metric shit-ton of material on MRP and TRP. This is a waste of everyone's time.

[–]fannyfire37 points38 points  (4 children) | Copy

I usually text my wife every half hour or so and just ask her to tell me she loves me and promises to never cheat on me. Our relationship has never been better.

[–]mrpmonk9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

Text is not enough. You should call. It feels better, trust me !

[–]ImNotSlash7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

GPS, faggot. Get that shit implanted

[–]NeoTheJuanDJ2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don’t forget the daily automatic rose-delivery service, and hand-written, tear-stained poems. Daily. In between phone calls to say I’m sorry for no reason. She’ll never cheat. Works like a charm.

[–]ahackercalled4chan7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]macheagle21 points22 points  (16 children) | Copy

My gf isn’t mine to begin with. I do my best to make sure her interest in me is actively maintained, but at the end of the day I am at peace with the fact that she is not mine - it is only my turn. That is a fundamental part of TRP - to let go of what you ultimately cannot control. Any control you feel you have had has been an illusion all along. And the fact that you care so much indicates possible scarce mentality. Practice abundance mentality and naturally you will also care less, because you know you have likely equally good options and alternatives everywhere.

This is the very premise that you’ve gotten wrong. Make sure you fix this before going into an LTR my friend.

[–]AttractiveMofoNever Listens[S] 1 point2 points  (15 children) | Copy

Alright but you have invested time and energy in the relationship, right?

I got other girls numbers and text them from time to time when I feel like it so it's not exactly that I have a scarce mentality but more like not wanting to disrespected and betrayed by someone I've decided to trust which is usually not easy for me to do.

[–]Carrera328616 points17 points  (3 children) | Copy

Too much of your self worth is invested in her then. You are who you are, if she “disrespects” you then she clearly wasn’t worth bothering with anyway, so who the fuck really cares? Why beat yourself up trying to manipulate the actions of someone else when all you have control over is who you are and what you deem worthy of your time and attention?

[–]macheagle6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly this. It is evident the OP’s self worth is based on the GF he may or may not have at any given moment. Very bad idea.

[–]AttractiveMofoNever Listens[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Thanks for the advice. I feel like you are completely right about this and I will definitely try fixing this in myself.

[–]Carrera32864 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s not an easy process or a simple one or a short one, but recognizing it’s an issue you have is half the battle. It probably took me the better part of 10 years to really correct it in myself, and it’s still a battle.

[–]macheagle6 points7 points  (6 children) | Copy

I invest time and energy yes - but who said I expect a certain degree of returns?

It is an expectation issue possibly on your end, not a trust issue.

In real world, betrayal happens. That is the nature of relationships (of any kind, from business to romance). You’ll need to accept that to get into the business of relationships is to expose yourself to both the upsides and downsides. To go into any relationship expecting only the upsides would no doubt be extremely naive.

And you don’t need to text girls to feel abundance mentally. Ultimately it is the strength of your internal, self-validation from within you. You should be able to abstain from texting any girl for weeks and still feel abundant, because you are a high value male in who you are and what you do. As you age, this may become easier to internalize once you have built a career and have gained more experience in both business and relationships.

Granted, there are many people who are “loyal”, but then again, even loyalty has its downsides - their motivations and incentives for staying loyal matters too. Are they loyal only because they feel they have no options outside? If so, perhaps there are insecurities and self-worth issues to deal with. These may be red flags. We can go on and on about these.

Recalibrate your expectations and live life with “outcome independence”, my friend.

[–]The_LitzRed Beret1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Good call, they are always replaceable, like a car.

[–]NeoTheJuanDJ0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

They also rapidly depreciate in value with time, like the second you pull out. Also, don’t go for the ones that have hit a wall. Does a real number on the paint and makes a perpetual noise that can be rather painful on the ears. Loose ball bearing or something like that.

[–]AttractiveMofoNever Listens[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

How do you make the feeling of outcome independence stronger for yourself? Anything you recommend I should read?

[–]macheagle2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Are you happy with yourself and are you happy alone, when single? I mean happy as like happy as fuck. As happy as you can be. Answer that first.

[–]aita28990 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Stay on your mission, the side bar yo.

[–]DeadGreek-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

The trolling is strong with this one.

[–]RisingUpAgain7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

Ah, you text other girls randomly when you’re “bored.”

That screams you rely on others, your girlfriend, random bitches for validation and your self image.

So if your SO cheated on you it would wreck you because you draw your self esteem and self respect from her opinion of you. And if she cheats on you, you must be trash.

You’re not your own mental point of origin.

[–]AttractiveMofoNever Listens[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Thanks for telling me this. I feel like this is actually true. Any advice on how I can stop this and be at my own point of origin? Anything I should read that you found helpful on your own "journey" (I hate that word)?

[–]FoxShitNasty835 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I am in this process right now. What you need is a complete mindset change. Your doing all this shit for other people. It's time to be selfish and start doing what you want. Have the mindset of "what can she do to keep you". Give her stuff to do, have a mission and stop chasing or worrying about her. Give her two thirds of what she gives you. Build abundance in all areas of your life. Your a busy man now... Get cracking, make lists work on your MAP

[–]SepeanRed Beret5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

The guys with higher SMV are banging 20 year old models, I don't see the worry here.

[–]RoccoPinkman4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

I disagree, the average beta chump is higher SMV than OP he lives In his wife’s frame and makes posts every week to ask if his GF of 5 minutes is cheating.

[–]scarmine344 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I actually typed out a response and then I saw SteelSharpensSteel's comment/link:

[–]TheRealCheekClapper6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just keep on clappin cheeks and/or getting your cheeks clapped. It will work out in the end.

[–]-Acta-Non-Verba-5 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy

You need to know her character. She should not have become your girl if you don’t trust her honesty, truthfulness and fidelity. And don’t believe everything you read on the internet. Red Pill assumes every woman has low characters and will cheat under the right circumstances. Low character women willl. Women with a strong moral code won’t.

[–]skuttt3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Women with strong moral codes still will cheat. Just less often requiring greater circumstances to align.

Red pill doesn’t assume every woman is “low character”. If you think that you misunderstood it. RP gives you the data you need to understand women and that’s it. It makes no character judgement.

[–]-Acta-Non-Verba-2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

If she (or you, for that matter) cheats, she does not have character, by definition. It's like saying an honest person steals, given a chance. No, if they steal, they are not honest. The circumstances do not change the character, they reveal it. I have had many chances to steal. I don't do it. Same with cheating.

[–]AttractiveMofoNever Listens[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

This is literally the first time I've read something like this on any of the RP subreddits. Do you have any pointers on knowing what someones moral codes are? Or is it just something you trust your gut with?

[–]-Acta-Non-Verba-2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

These are some essential character traits. Then you look for indicators of how much these things matter to them. For example, are they OK with lying? How about lying a little bit? Are they too smooth and comfortable when shading the truth? Are they always truthful with everyone? If a cashier gives them too much money, would they return it? If they forget to pay for something at the store (say, it didn't get scanned on the self-check out), will they go back and pay for it? When they find something lost, do they try to return it to their owner by, for example, taking it to the Lost & Found? When they borrow something, do they return it? Have they cheated in the past? How about flirting or getting in questionable situations while committed? Are there circumstances under which they would be OK with cheating? Are all their exes jerks? Are their close friend good people, people of character too? Or do their friends cheat, lie, and steal? Do they keep their promises, or at least, try very hard to do so? Are they a person of integrity? Do they say what they mean, and mean what they say? Would you trust them with $1,000 in cash for 3 months, knowing that your money is safe? Are they responsible? Are they measured and careful when it comes to consuming alcohol? Do people who know them well trust them?

[–]Carrera32860 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There is no short answer to tell you how to get to know someone deeply enough to intuit their moral code and the degree to which they have the strength and character to adhere to it. It’s worth mentioning that the biological imperatives that govern us can almost always overpower the will of your average human being, so I would say trust can never be complete, which is why you can’t worry yourself excessively over the “what if’s,” she will do what she will do, you just worry about being who you are and reacting appropriately.

[–]Pete_Worst2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Because I'm high SMV. It's useless to worry about shit like that because if she cheats, then I'll just move onto the next one whereas she'll be chasing and failing with guys like me forever while being miserable. Stop posting shit like this

[–]boy_named_su6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

How does a bank trust you'll pay your loan back? They check your credit (her cock history)

[–]2wo2wo3hree4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

This post belongs in the Red Pill Women category.

It seems like your boyfriend is your life mission. Don’t do that. Your partner is never #1.

Forget about other men’s SMV. Worry about yourself. It’s the only SMV you can control.

“ I know I should NGAF but at the same time ”

-you’re basically saying, I should not look into the barrel of this LOADED gun with my finger on the trigger but at the same time...”

Dude... you are not getting “IT”. You need to REALLY read the books in the sidebar. Also... you talk like you don’t lift. Go lift.

[–]WolfofAllStreetz1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Be better than her.

[–]yarmysmardarm1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ancient proverb: Trust in God, but tie your camel.

[–]RoccoPinkman1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you had any value at all you would NGAF because it would be her loss if she decided to cheat.

Other than that, check her knickers are clean every time she comes home.

[–]aita28991 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You don’t. You have an abundance mentality and understand if that bitch runs Off you have others to take her place at all times.

[–]IATAsshole2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Until my girls fucks a higher SMV man we’re good. In the meanwhile I’m not going to spend my brainpower pondering if I can trust her to not do so.

[–]throwawaybpdnpd0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That’s it.

And if she does, next!

[–]redwall920 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sounds like I have no balls, I know, but I'm just genuinely asking a question about trust here.

There's your problem. Stop worrying about her, and find your balls.

[–]nantucketghost0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's all about you being the best you that you can be and making yourself better.

There will always be a higher value guy out there. Whatever. Your girl isn't going to jump ship unless you're a lame fat lazy guy that she can't brag about.

This of it this way: Your girl is in a group of girls and they are bragging about their man. Can your wife brag about you? Ideally you're the guy that all the women wish their man would be. Even if you're in the middle of that pack your fine.

But if you are the type of guy that your girl is embarrassed to talk about or she has nothing good to say about what you're doing or accomplishing, then she is the girl that will jump off your ship if something better comes along.

You don't have the be the guy on the top of the mountain, just be the type of guy climbing the mountain.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I do not trust anyone.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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