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Is religion something weak people use to make life predictable?

by libertyininequality | January 06, 2020 | altTRP

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Religion mainly teaches people morality (and fear). Thing is: between two individuals that respect each other, morality will form because you'll probably want to keep in each others' lives. But between two individuals that either don't know or respect each other, why would I want to act morally just and be nice?

It seems to me that morality as a systematised set of rules is mainly for weak people to not get fucked. So they try to force other people in adopting morality as if it were a right. Sorry, but no one has a right to anything and no one has the absolute right to respect.

In the same regard, climate change debate. Yes, climate change exists. And it seems that we probably do contribute. But the big question is: do I care? Do I care about my future offspring that won't have to deal with this for generations to come? Maybe. But do I trust people that I don't know to be as co-dependent as I am in reaching this goal? Do I invest in a luxury not knowing if they'll do the same?

Mind you, we're a competitive species and sooner or later someone will want to climb to the top, and the easiest way to do so is just ignore climate change (e.g. China). It's like a zero-sum game, because trust can't just be given to everyone.

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I believe strong men don't live by religion or morality, because they're strong. Of course this doesn't mean that you get to #metoo the shit out of everyone, because even in the most selfish way that'll affect you, but we don't need a set of morals to do what we think is best. We affirm ourselves in this world and enforce strong boundaries because we know that's the best way to determine whether someone's worthy of our trust.

By the way, I use weak and strong as terms for different sets of people. It's amoral, but it's there nonetheless. We're a species of social primates, and, yes, we have hierarchies of competence / fitness that reflect our chances of survival and reproduction.

*It's just a thought, feel free to comment, bash, elaborate to your liking.


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Title Is religion something weak people use to make life predictable?
Author libertyininequality
Upvotes 9
Comments 8
Date 06 January 2020 12:02 PM UTC (6 months ago)
Subreddit altTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/304330
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[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

I find people who look down on religion like this to be even more arrogant and condescending than religious people.

Saying religion is for dumb and weak people makes you no different than religious people believing they have the one truth and everyone else is wrong.

In my experience, atheists are more insufferable than theists. And I say this as someone who is non religious.

[–]libertyininequality[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Not an atheist but looking at the topic from an existential level.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Lol "existential" level? Can you explain what you mean by that?

[–]libertyininequality[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Religion is rooted in empathy which weak people use to hedge their bets.

[–]JurJur0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Like you, I use to think religion was total BS for the masses. Mind you, I went to a Christian school for 9 years too. And, Yes no one has a right to absolute respect but i believe it is something we should work towards for as men. Respect should be given to everyone but not expected. After finishing up college, I have begun going to church for the first time and am opening up my mind to the positive ideals that Christianity promotes. I initially went with the intention to meet girls but overtime, some of the teachings have begun to stick on me. I believe everyone has a right to choose what to believe to take out of the Bible and taking it all word for word is futile. I’m not trying to be Christian per say but I do want to have Christian Values such as forgiveness, respect, and love.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

religion is to adult people what parents are to children. "Somebody will take care of it for me".

[–]libertyininequality[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly. Born out of weakness. Children are weak because they're mentally and physically dependent on their parents. Religious people are weak because they're mentally dependent on god.

[–]SomeWelshBloke0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Religion is for the weak minded who have little to no social skills and are scared of the world. Religion is a societal cancer that needs to be banned.



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