How to respond to girls who like to subtly brag about their sex life and or the attention they get from other guys?

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January 10, 2020
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I've noticed this more and more recently where girls love to bring up either positive traits about their ex, previous sexual partners or just in general humble bragging about their SMV, as if they try to DHV, qualify themselves or shit test a reaction out of you (bragging can fulfill either or all of those purposes I assume). Happens during initial flirting, dates, pillow talk -- it's something I've definitely picked up on a lot more as I've become more conscious of trying not to brag to girls myself (should I be?).

They'll often start with "one time this guy..", "this one time with my ex..", "my ex was really good at.." "this guy I hooked up with last week.." or more situationally, "that waiter is cute", "this creep asked for my number the other day", "a guy bought me a drink", "I'm getting so many looks in this club", "some weird guy just messaged me", "haha, the bouncer just asked for my number". It's very reminiscent of how guys brag to each other about their sexual conquests, but much less direct.

Am I missing something here? I like to think I'm successful with girls and a handsome fellow (not to brag, ironically), but I make a conscious effort not to bring up anything to suggest how "easily I get laid", my body count, past relationships, girls I've been with etc. I find it lame and insecure to do so, like its such a forced way to demonstrate value and pre-selection.. but is it actually the most effective from a female perspective?

So it's actually quite off-putting when I hear such bragging, qualifying, whatever -- a girl shamelessly telling me that I'm the third hookup she's had in a fortnight drops her value to the bottom of the ocean for me (and then they wonder where they went wrong). For context, I'm a 24 year old, recently bored of casual sex and looking for a LTR, so maybe such behavior just bothers me more now (I also notice it more from younger, less mature girls, student types).

  • So why the hell do they do it? to spark jealousy?
  • How do I respond?
  • And should guys do the same to girls? am I not displaying SMV or high value as much as I could by not similarly bragging myself?

They're pretty much pointless comments that can be perceived as red flags and cause loss of attraction, I see no benefit -- are girls just that clueless with how to demonstrate value verbally (like they even need to..)? Giving the benefit of the doubt here.


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Title How to respond to girls who like to subtly brag about their sex life and or the attention they get from other guys?
Author AvatarTwasCheesy
Upvotes 142
Comments 76
Date 10 January 2020 04:11 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]Fresh_Pulse186 points187 points  (13 children) | Copy

Typically this is a shit test, they're trying to gauge your reaction and / or get clues about your sex life in order to gauge your SMV.

Anecdotally, I've been seeing this behavior more often with women that are particularly un-feminine. Since they tend to believe men and women are exactly the same, in their mind what they find attractive in men should make men attracted to them. In an attempt to raise their value in your eyes, the opposite effect occurs.

[–]commmons3nse80 points81 points  (9 children) | Copy

My experience can confirm that part about non-feminine girls bragging about this. Imo they think it is hot when guys hear their past experiences. For me, opposite equals true.

[–]Hungboy696942048 points49 points  (8 children) | Copy

Or they think since men get points for bragging, they can too. Nahhh not how that works honey

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (4 children) | Copy

Exactly, a woman bragging about how many guys she can get with is meaningless. Like, ok, lotta guys will fuck anything that moves, you ain't special.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy

Literally if you put an 5/10 girl and an 5/10 in the middle of let’s say a beach or something and both would wear a sign that says “free sex” the girl would never be able to walk again while nobody would probably touch the guy.

[–]red2hilt1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I've been reading and implementing TRP for a couple of years, and I think your beach example is wrong:

I bet some women would go stand next to him or even go up and start shit testing him, which is the woman's equivalent. If you put a 5/10 guy with "perfect game" on a beach with a sign that says "free sex", and he has positive energy, talks to every girl who comes within earshot, flips the script, example:

Girl: "did you lose a bet?"

Guy: "don't you have somewhere better to be than talking with a guy wearing a 'free sex' sign?"

... then he could very well slay massively more 8/10, 9/10 and 10/10 pussy than the 5/10 girl.

Actually he would be rejecting girls. They'd be crowding around trying to get a piece of him. (If he has good game.) He'll builld a small social setting with the guys and girls who are talking with him, and the woman who goes off with him while he's wearing a "free sex" sign will somehow still hamster it away that it just happened.

Will hot, buff guys touch a loser 5/10 girl wearing a "free sex" sign? I wouldn't.

So the 5/10 guy with game will get better girls (8's, 9's, 10's) than the 5/10 girl can, using your example.

And yes they will just go up to him to inquire about the free sex. (In my opinion.)

[–]Hungboy69694206 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Right especially if they're fucking loads of mediocore men. If you're a hb6 and you manage to fuck some dudes who is a 9, good for you. But even then, everyone fucks below the belt sometimes

[–]VigilantSmartbomb1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

"Nah not how that works honey"

I feel like this happened to you recently lml

[–]Hungboy69694205 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ha a few times over the last few years. Recently was an hb8-9 who was piss drunk bragging about how every guy wants to fuck her. Congrats , you have a pulse!

[–]askmrcia1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oh they do get points for bragging. It tells me how easy they are to hookup with. Because they brag means I won't be taking them on any real dates

[–]Vynxe-Vainglory31 points32 points  (0 children) | Copy

The vibe I’ve gotten when chicks talk about their past sex life with me is that they think I’m too much of a “bad boy” for them or something, and they want me to think they are naughty and cool.

As you said, this does not have the desired result for them....at all....

[–]Foolishoe7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

She's "One of the boys"

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Wow. Interesting.

[–]MikeAlphaGolf50 points51 points  (4 children) | Copy

They see you as the cool guy who ‘gets it’. You get laid. They want you to see them as a sexual being too, not a good girl. They’re trying to raise themselves to your level. They want you to treat them like a slut, not a good girl like every other beta nice guy ™. Give them the good fucking that they expect from you.

[–]Sacredbonezll10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is it right here chief..

[–]AvatarTwasCheesy[S] 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

Which is funny, because we'd always rather see LTR material as picky "good girls" who are hard to get, than man-whores who spread their legs at every opportunity. If only they knew!

Less subtlety, a girl showed me her "list of fucks" on her phone after sex the other day whilst putting my name down (I was lucky #18) -- it's honestly bizarre what goes through their heads, might as well have written "slut" with permanent marker on her forehead and driven the both of us to the nearest STD clinic. Impressed I was not..

I mean even if she didn't want to give off the impression that she's LTR material.. wack (very rare as most want to keep you chasing and maintain attraction).

[–]jzekyll61 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don’t hold women to male standards

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Then she should just tell me that lmao, otherwise I won’t even look at her

[–]rockemsockemlostem40 points41 points  (0 children) | Copy

Never had a female try to brag about another dude's sexual prowess, but if they did, that'd be a no from me dawg.

[–]ThatOneDrunkUncle23 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah it's a shit test. What else would it be? If you don't do this subtly with girls who are into you, your arsenal is lagging. Don't do it with the wrong girl though, it's definitely off-putting if they're close to your smv or aren't sure about you yet. I wait until a girl brings up an ex first to bring up mine, but play it off in a fun way.

[–]2redhawkes20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

Im sure you're familiar with the saying "Your actions speak so loudly, I can't hear what you're saying."

Now, get this thing first in your head, if some chick talks about sex with you in any context, she's thinking of doing it with you.

Another one, solipsism, which adds to the previous line. They are attracted to the guys that other girls are attracted to - preselection. So in her solipsistic mind, if that works on her, it should work on you too. Your gut reaction is right tho, disgust, but they think it's DHV.

Last, don't talk about chicks you've banged, show it in your attitude. Guys who talk about fucking all the time are the ones who haven't seen a pussy irl. Do not kiss and tell.

It can be a shit test too, gauging your reaction. Simple AM, ignore, or A&A, then change subject. Don't take this shit seriously.

[–]Dilduo105 points106 points  (9 children) | Copy

Shit test.

Dont bring up your ex or past encounters

Agree and amplify

Shes talking about her ex like hes the shit "oh let me grab his number he sounds fun"

That guys so hot "mhm what a hunk"

Or ignore

Mildly laugh, or say "not sure why your telling me" or "sounds great you should hit him up again"

Just show her that you dont give a shit about it and you dont care to play her game of trying to one up her. Really shes trying to break down your frame while at the same time find out about your past. Dont give her any of that.

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[–]eternalgnome38 points39 points  (1 child) | Copy

i agree that ignoring is the best option.
give off a (subtle) cold vibe and she'll pick up on it and drop the subject. problem solved.
giving less attention in this case is the solution.
saying shit like "ooo he's a hunk" even ironically sounds pretty beta, just my opinion.

[–]brosky733117 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah that just sounds gay lol

[–]genital-love5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

i agree, a&a is pretty beta here

[–]TRP Vanguardnicethingyoucanthave20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

I like this one:

Shes talking about her ex like hes the shit "oh let me grab his number he sounds fun"

This one, not so much.

That guys so hot "mhm what a hunk"

Sounds too much like you're her girlfriend. I realize it's a shit test but frankly, I think you should just next a girl if she's constantly pointing out that other men are attractive. I don't know if it's even worth passing the test with a girl who doesn't have the common sense not to act that way.

As for the more general case where she's just bringing up an ex, I haven't tested this extensively but I did the following, just instinctively, with a girl who I didn't care about too much (which, ironically, is the correct frame to be in to pass any shit test) - the very first time she told me a "my ex used to" story, I just looked at her and said, "why the fuck are you telling me this?" I didn't wait for an answer; I kept walking. She STFU and followed me, and I don't think she ever brought him up again. Not that I remember anyway.

Sadly, I don't always have the balls the shut a girl down like that. It's something I need to work on.

[–]ApdoSenpai9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Girls are masters at this. Use amused mastery and laugh it off.

Anything else and they are validated + confirming you aren’t what you act like. She wants to make you into a beta, and once it happens...she’s onto the next guy.

[–]VigilantSmartbomb0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Wait why not bring up your past exs? Why should I care if she's coming to me and I'm the prize? She should know I fuck and get around right? I mean if she can tame that that's one thing- but why would I stop talking about it openly if I already do?

[–]Dilduo1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

No one wants to hear about exes ever really.

Nothing good can come of it.

A few reasons:

You never discuss your n count or past women.

She may think your not over it.

She may not want to be "one of your girls"

If you ever want to ltr her you will never hear the end of her talking about your past.

If just a plate, generally the plate breaks quicker

Let her just see other women hitting on you. No need to talk about it. Its just not attractive.

There are plenty more reasons all in the side bar

[–]VigilantSmartbomb0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you can point to me in the right direction with the side bar I appreciate it- I've been reading and need more.

So she needs to know that women want me not that I fuck a lot of women-- aight I gotta turn that around a bit llol

[–]2ComplexProjection13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

Story time: I am at a friend's, and some girls I don't know start to tell their holidays where they were taking turn bringing men into the apartment to fuck them, and laughing out loud about this. I could tell they were looking for validation, but just grossed me out.

If a girl starts to do that, ask yourself if you really want to keep the interaction going.

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[–]hijodebluedemon4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Lol, she got horny at the thought of you mentioning to go fuck him? Sounds like a backfire

[–]Zorrostrian0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Damn, that’s a good point. I didn’t think about it that way.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Look, if that really happened please never commit to her. Only fuck her but never once in a life time think about a relationship with her lmao

[–]eternalgnome26 points27 points  (2 children) | Copy

"I'm getting so many looks in this club"
This sounds like something an insecure girl would say who is trying to validate herself to others.
What HOT GIRL would ever feel the need to mention this out loud?
Curious what others think about this particular line.

[–]AvatarTwasCheesy[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I think that's as far as they can go with that one, if they try to take it a step further and talk/flirt to other guys in your vicinity as a means to further push a reaction or flaunt their value, it's time to walk surely.

It's quite sad how quickly a girl can plummet her LTR potential in my eyes by trying to DHV, when all they needed to do was nothing except look pretty..

[–]lololasaurus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She's not trying to DHV, per se, she's setting precedent. The medium is the message, she's telling you what you can expect the rest of your time with her.

[–]AshyBoneVR46 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

If a girl does that shit just ignore her. Think of it as a child bragging about getting the highest grade in an second grade elementary school class. Also, normally it's a way for her to see how many girls you've slept with. It's ok for her to have a high number but not ok for you.

[–]teabagabeartrap5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

my experience so far was, that those are the ones, where the sex is shitty.
Maybe they want to brag, because they want to do good marketing as they know it is shitty.

[–]GiraffeOnWheels4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well if you’re looking for an LTR it’s safe to say if you see any out that behavior, look elsewhere.

[–]Corvus_Uraneus3 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy

Pressure flip:

"Every beautiful girl gets that kind of attention, even from creeps, but I thought you knew how to take care of yourself?"

If she can't shut down other guys advances, you're right, they're red flags and not LTR material since you said that's what you're looking for.

As for stuff their ex used to do or be good at, I tend to think of Patrice O'Neal's response, "I'm not gonna do what your ex boyfriend did, I don't care if you liked it. Imma fuck you the way I fuck and make YOU like THAT."

[–]TRP Vanguardnicethingyoucanthave6 points7 points  (5 children) | Copy

"Every beautiful girl gets that kind of attention, even from creeps, but I thought you knew how to take care of yourself?"

I really like this. But consider dropping the word "beautiful" - it still works without giving her that unearned validation. Compliment her when she's acting right, not when she's shit testing you.

[–]miwol210 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

maybe hot or even average looking is a better way to but it

[–]Corvus_Uraneus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Point taken.

[–]redditcorrectly0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Jesus no, don't do that. So you are basically going to put down a girl to make her feel bad about herself just to have a chance with her. You are probably going to stay on her mind, remonding her of her imperfections, and yes maybe she will decide to try to fuck you to maybe feel better about herself, but that the extent of it. You are not going to find a fullfiling relationship if you dont learn how to talk to girl and just act normally without offering her services so that she will br pressured to be with you (she never will) and maybe make her laugh. OP doesnt have to negg. These girls already like him and try to get his approval

[–]TRP Vanguardnicethingyoucanthave0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

you are basically going to put down a girl to make her feel bad about herself just to have a chance with her

I'm going to ask you to explain how my suggestion amounts to "putting her down" and I feel certain you're not going to be able to do it.

...because nothing in my suggestion is a put-down. You're mistaken.

OP doesnt have to negg.

I didn't advise him too. You just misread it.

[–]redditcorrectly0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Actually I was refering to text written by Corvus_Uraneus, on the other hand I probably overreacted in my comment becouse it was 4 o'clock in the morning when I wrote that and had just found out about incels, red pils and such things so was scrolling like crazy trought all those sites on reddit which included previous mentioned, in which some of the stuff I read were just insane. But sorry if you feel offended it was't my intention

[–]Foolishoe2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Could be a shitty social habit they don't recognize is bad to talk about. People who kiss and tell, especially to potential future partners, are constantly shooting themselves in the foot. These types of people aren't really in the head space of conscious effort, this is a mindless thing they just do and talk about. This shit they say out loud that turns you off, they literally do that with 90% of the people they engage with. Typically if it is on the mind and coming out the mouth they are heavily fixated on it.

However, it also shows you that this woman is a great loudspeaker. Giving her an excellent experience magnifies your SMV through her conversation with others, just like she is doing with you, she will do with 10-50 other people in the coming weeks, months, hopefully years if you do it right.

They just don't know better yet. They are good enough looking that enough men are still licking those boots. Until she's crested the peak of her value level and starts corrupting into a shittier version of her best self, she will probably continue to act this way. The only way to fix it is to point it out and see how she reacts.

There was a post on here a few months ago maybe? A guy was listening to a woman go on about such things and he point blank asked her if she was a narcissist. She had no idea, but to this guy, she was bland and dumb and becoming more and more unattractive by her actions. Habits are hard to break, typically such an action by a male to a female just severs the relationship. She'd rather pretend you are crazy than accept the truth that she's been a social moron for half of her life, probably her entire sexually active life.

I think you just recognize this and carry on. Women with recent partners? Do you have paperwork stating you are clean? I wont have sex with a woman who outright claims promiscuity. Every new partner for the last decade I've been pretty serious about getting sexual checks prior to insertion.

Once you have a few plates or FWB such conversations ultimately become routine and comfortable, even enjoyable talking points.

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[–]miwol210 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

or just fk her if u want, but dont take her as a LTR

[–]strainer1231 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Subtly infer they're sluts and being a slut is disgusting.

[–]imtheoneimmortal2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Actually right now I’m talking with girl that she avoid talking about her past, yeah she told me she got a bf and they fucked but told me once or twice

She’s very interested if I fuck when and what girl and if I’m committed to someone

I don’t know if that’s good but she’s interested in me so why not

[–]espionagent3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

respond with a smile, and genuinely ask them a question or make a comment that isn't needy or offended. act as if its no big deal, and she's just a friend. be fearless. have abundance.

or if you TRULY DGAF about them, then just tell them to phuck off

[–]Pockyaf4 points5 points  (7 children) | Copy

As a 300+ lay count guy, I'm gonna say it's NOT a shit test. It's just a fun topic to talk about. It's probably the same thing girls would talk about around each other. If you're her fuckbuddy, then that's the reason why she's so casual.

I disagree that you should avoid talking about your past experience with her. First, it would show DHV, and again it's suppose to be a fun topic. If that's no the sort of relationship you're looking for then just bounce. Sounds like you're wasting time on this

[–]damaged_goods4201 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

As a 300+ lay count guy

Literally how my guy

[–]lokilis4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

He spends a lot of time chasing skirts.

[–]damaged_goods420-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Was gonna say, you've gotta be a massive tryhard or literally the most gifted dude ever to pull numbers like that. No shade though, impressive numbers.

[–]Pockyaf0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

21 to 30 = 300 / 9. Not that impressive but it's just time and experience

[–]Jabbermouth0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

That’s a little over 33 a year.

The average man has sex with 7 women in his lifetime.

So in 1 year, you had sex with over 4x as many women as the average guy.

Even if they weren’t all the best looking, that’s still pretty impressive just from a pure numbers standpoint.

[–]Pockyaf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Very sad guys still think those are exclusive. But it's either experience for themselves or find a way to feel better about non experiences

[–]thestickfighter0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

What if she does the opposite? She's constantly talking bad about her ex? Brings him up almost daily but not to praise him but shs talks about all the bad things he's done or is still doing. He's ex husband and has a kid with him. She's a plate.

[–]curiousboyz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Tbh the girls that talk like this to me were noticeably better in bed. Just more into sex and higher sex drive. And ya they were more masculine I guess in their personality. Idk if it’s shit test. My impression was more they just think it’s fun to talk about or funny to make jokes / comments about sex. Like edgy or whatever.

[–]mksu9110 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It depends if I have already fucked them or not. If I haven't, I will just ignore, no need to react if I haven't gotten what I want yet. But if I've already fucked, then I like to call them out on it, because it's fun for me and I already got what I want.

[–]Ivabighairy10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Squint at them and say “That was you?”

[–]mrpoopistan0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

They'll often start with "one time this guy..", "this one time with my ex..", "my ex was really good at.." "this guy I hooked up with last week.." or more situationally, "that waiter is cute", "this creep asked for my number the other day", "a guy bought me a drink", "I'm getting so many looks in this club", "some weird guy just messaged me", "haha, the bouncer just asked for my number".

That's a hodge-podge of different behaviors.

this creep asked for my number the other day

That's just a humblebrag. She's trying to sustain that there's interest in her. A lot of this shit is self-soothing behavior that you should just ignore.

Funny thing about women -- they'll never tell others about the guy they couldn't get. You'll never hear a woman declare, "He was like the hottest guy I ever saw, but he acted like I barely existed even after I tried humping his leg."

that waiter is cute

Shit test.

I'd go with a simple reply like "7 out of 10. Would bang." Be prepared for her to drag you into a further exchange with that one. If she tries to debate you, just muddy the waters by calling her a homophobe. Doesn't matter if she comes off as homophobic or not. Just throw a grenade in there to keep her off balance for entertainment value. None of this shit is a logic test.

haha, the bouncer just asked for my number

More self-soothing. I'd probably reply with, "At least he has a job." it's fair to just let that one slide entirely, though. I just like to start fights and talk shit on people.

my ex was really good at

Alpha widowing. More self-soothing, but also a red flag if you can't sustain whatever is her vision of alpha behavior.

Also, he probably wasn't a real ex. He was probably just a pump-and-dumper or a guy who was fucking her as a side chick. Don't expect her to concede that fact, though.

If you want to pick a fight -- and this is purely for entertainment value, not to advance any TRP goal -- you can always drop something like, "If he was the good one in the sack, what's that say about you?" Again, this serves no real purpose and is just a great way to pick a fight. Fighting with chicks is a form of game you shouldn't touch if you're not genuinely into it for the LOLs, but making fun of their sexual prowess is hilarious because they all think they're the queen of blowjobs.

[–]AvatarTwasCheesy[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You're right, he was her only "boyfriend", they were together for barely 3 months, he cheated on her regularly -- yet she couldn't stop fucking namedropping him whenever she got the chance, even after a year of being single (shock) and whoring about.

I should really bite my tongue less.. people say ignore, suggest indifference, but sometimes they just don't ever get the hint.

[–]mrpoopistan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It depends on how verbal combat works for you.

I grew up in a family of combative assholes so firing back at people is pretty normal for me. I mostly had to learn to not be butthurt and just enjoy the combat.

[–]Silva_Shadow0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This shit comes from women who are either shit testing, or it comes from women who we feminists and think that they're equal to men, so they think a higher notch count and more experience actually makes them more valuable.

It's sad really.

[–]1DubbleFUPAwitCheez0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You're going to hear "shit test" a lot here but to those guys everything is a "shit test". How you respond is important but here is the bottom line: The chances these girls will make good LTR material is low but it's partially your fault.

Women mirror the men they admire. As another said, she sees you as a sexual being that every girl wants so she wants to be at your level. Since you obviously have no interest in this stupid shit (she's always noticing when girls do it but you don't notice when guys do any of this crap) she has to tell you.

Here's how you can tell if you can turn this nonsense around. Do it back. Look for an opportunity to subtly remind her that girls want to fuck you and that you have fucked girls. If she reacts negatively, that's a good sign. It means she really is just doing it for your attention and she can be corrected into someone not annoying to be around.(Bear in mind I mean something like acting pouty or annoyed not losing her shit level negative)

Indifference is more bad than good but mostly it means she wasn't taking you seriously to begin with, react accordingly.

If she acts aroused or excited in some way it's a red flag. She's just a motel for dick. It comes and goes and that's fine. Her ability to attach is damaged and you should treat her as such. I.e. No Relationship.

[–]i-am-the-prize0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Be thankful, they're clearly disqualifying themselves as an LTR, makes your 'work' easier.

I was having a discussion with a woman on this topic and didn't reply to her last, but it fits here...

  1. the reason a woman bringing up her SMV/access-to-cock/DHV is obtuse is because ABUNDANCE is non symmetrical between the genders. Any non-land-whale woman can get laid any night they want. Of course guys brought you a drink, and one asked for your number. No fucking shit. It happens all day long if you're not a cave troll. Welcome to being an HB5. Yet dumb women think "we're the same" but we're not. an HD5 guy cannot passively get laid on command like an HB5 woman can. (Game/PUA aside)
  2. if she thinks she needs to mention this shit it means she doesn't know that you know about female Abundance, or she does and she's a moron. or it's the best she can do for a shittest which means shes lazy and/or stupid. I mean, c'mon, you got laid twice in 2 weeks? For a girl willing to spread her legs, those are rookie numbers!

The reason it's more effective for men to DHV through having your 'female target' notice you getting attention from other women is this:

  • Abundance is not the natural state for all men, so if you have it, you're one of the "special ones"
  • women use Social Proof as a shortcut to evaluating your fitness, so her seeing you talk to/get hit on/flirt with other women really does raise your stock with her Hamster (but not the other way around, which is her malfunction in projecting her eval matrix onto your view of her)

They way you handle it is:

  • ignore and keep discussing whatever you were before, or change subject and keep rolling
  • Agree and Amplify (she tells you about a guy with great tongue action): "sounds amazing, you should go have drinks with him and I'll bang his GF" keep a smirk/smile, remember, don't be angry, she's a child saying childish things. think: "this poor little retard is trying to get under my skin, bless her heart..."

The key is :

  • to not have it bother you and demonstrate that it means nothing to you, if you get bothered, you lose. If she can bother you with this trite BS you are a weak man who has no Frame and no strength and will be a jealous bitch in her eyes. If you ignore or AA/Amused Mastery reply, she sees she isn't getting to you and you pass a 'test' in her brain.
  • to not be afraid to offend her in your reaction. that's the key to NGAF and OI, if she gets offended and 'walks away' fine. She's one of a 1000 women who will suit your needs. Have this mindset: What you want you can get from any woman, what she wants and needs she can get only from you.

in the end, once you truly RP and AWALT it won't bother you in the slightest, remember, if you continue with this chick that night, it's not for LTR romance, it's just for bodily function and practice. So no worries, let her talk like a ho, she'll get treated like one.

[–]lozboss0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Don't be phased by it mate. Mate sure you don't fail the shit test. Ignore it as if she's talking about the weather / act bored.

However, afterwards I'd often next/ ghost these plates - they are low quality.

[–]WiterS20 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

  1. That's a red flag. Never LTR one of those girls.
  2. She craves validation. It makes easier to bed, by making her qualify herself. Dangle the carrot of approval for it. Reframe it like it's cool to be sexually adventurous.

[–]redditcorrectly0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Their bragging of their exes' sexual prowess indicates their fondness of you and also a challenge. Yes you're right they want to make you jealous, and see how you react to threir teasing and find out if you like them back. But also they want for you to prove them that you can do better than mentioned exes, maybe also be a little agressive in the process. Also, if they really like you and think you are better than them,or you are acting smugg, a way to put you down to their level and show you you are not as hot shit as they think you are (if that made sense). Also gauge your reaction to see if you are intimidated by their sexual energy and by independed female who takes whatever she wants (as they think they are) So in conclusion there are alot of reasons for meantioned behavior... You should respond camly, with confidence and maybe a smirk, and just reply with simple "sure", it shows that you are confident in your ability and not intimidated by their exes.

[–]furcryingoutloud0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

"one time this guy.."

Me: "I don't care."

"that waiter is cute"

Me: I'm sure we can figure out a way to get you his number before we leave.

Agree and amplify, and if necessary, leave her there with the waiter, or ask her specifically if anything about your behavior indicated to her that you give a shit.

It's just stupid shit testing and you should forever remain aloof to those stories that are probably bullshit to begin with. Even if they are true, who gives a fuck?

You'd be pretty hungry to LTR some bitch with a story complex like that.



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