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How to build social life from scratch?

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January 10, 2020

My last couple OYS here:

I’m 10 months in to MRP. Up to this point, I had thought my situation was less dire than average. I was basing this diagnosis on not having a dead bedroom at any point in my 25+ years married. The last few weeks, feedback from this community has made it crystal clear that I have one-it is really bad and little social network aside from my wife’s work/church/general circle of friends. Also critical gaps in my competency set as described in my OYS.

The past week, I have been pulling back from smothering/clingy/needy behavior at home. Wife’s response has been to cut me off sexually. Not unfriendly or hostile, just smug and perky: If I’m not going to pedestalize her princessness, then I don’t get my validation handout sex. Enough about her, Rule 9. If this is just a bump in the road, no problem. You can’t make an omelette without breaking eggs. It’s just a place I have not been before.

Emotionally, I’m pretty raggedy. Am attempting to be OI about not getting laid, but there’s zero chance my wife is buying any of that, my frame is weak as hell. I understand, textbook-wise, about developing abundance mentality so the OI is genuine and unforced. I got married as a 28 year old almost-virgin, so have never experienced abundance.

To my question. I’m recently retired. My hobbies are largely cooking, writing, car restoration, and aquariums. I also sail several times a week, and attend a weekly BSDM class and post-class coffee meetup. I backpack solo for a week every year, and sometime another week with my brother. MRP 12 Steps of Dread indicate that I need a hefty increase in time spent away from the house, opportunities to make friends, and a robust social life. This leads to a quandary. For the most part, being a home-body is compatible with 99 percent of my mission. The guys I sail with are chill, uber-competent, and stoic, difficult qualities to find in the general population of humans. It’s hard to schedule sailing crew, so I solo the boat a couple times a week as well. 80 percent of people I run into randomly, I find fat, beta, pathetic, and annoying. I don’t see how they would add value to my life. Becoming more social solely in order to get laid also seems like it violates some foundational MRP principles.

BJJ is out, my skeleton is too fucked up. Although an MMA dude at my gym generously worked with me on hitting the heavy bag. Ditto for say, rock climbing, but that’s exactly the kind of people I like hanging out with. At 56, there’s also the problem that I’d be “that old guy” hanging out with all the young people. Church is out, because I can’t fake believing in the alternative history, science, and the invisible guys.

Help me to get my head screwed on better. I'm experienced with the beat-down style of this forum. Bring it.

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Title How to build social life from scratch?
Author Goobergus_Gubbins
Upvotes 13
Comments 86
Date 10 January 2020 04:02 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret19 points20 points  (4 children) | Copy

Am attempting to be OI about not getting laid, but there’s zero chance my wife is buying any of that, my frame is weak as hell.

Well, then don’t attempt. Stick with STFU

Ditto for say, rock climbing, but that’s exactly the kind of people I like hanging out with. At 56, there’s also the problem that I’d be “that old guy” hanging out with all the young people.

Quit making so many damn excuses. If you could pull off rock climbing with young people at 56, dread would be through the roof. I just read your lifts, and you are just plain skinny. You need to get in the gym and start bulking. Have you had your testosterone checked?

I guarantee you’d have fellow women climbers in their 20’s and 30’s flirting with you in the rock climbing group if you added some muscle and frame. 56 is not that old- you just lack confidence. Start day gaming and flirting more. You might be surprised, if you bulk up... the results and IOI’s you’ll get. Women love older men who have decent muscle. You don’t have to be super witty as you implied in OYS. You just have to maintain strong eye contact, have frame, and some muscle wouldn’t hurt

Start doing activities around your hobbies...

My hobbies are largely cooking, writing, car restoration, and aquariums.

Yeah lots of women cook and write. You wrote in OYS that your hobbies were “hairy” man hobbies, but looking at your list here, that’s not true, is it?

Bottom line is you are making excuses to even try because failure is more scary to you than not trying

Let that sink in. Also quit making statements about your weaknesses in present tense. It’s just more excuses... you’re essentially saying “that’s just how I am and I can’t change it.”

You can change anything you want. Make a decision to do it.

[–]hack3geRed Beret5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

Just a faggot making excuses all over the place.

Any who says they are too old to hang out with young people is fucked already. I mean look at fucking George Clooney - dude fucked probably thousands of women in their twenties with no issue - granted celebrity - but he’s a man who takes care of himself, dresses well and has that old dude swagger - no homo.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

George Clooney - dude fucked probably thousands of women in their twenties with no issue - granted celebrity - but he’s a man who takes care of himself, dresses well and has that old dude swagger - no homo.

That’s ok. Leonardo DiCaprio is my man crush- no homo

But to your point...Jack Nicholson... still pulling poon in his 70’s... Mick Jagger, Steven Tyler...same because of swag and didn’t get fat

[–]hack3geRed Beret1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

DiCaprio is another good one - I loved when people started giving him shit for banging all the young 20 somethings and he was basically like “meh” and it all went away without another word. Frame and balls of steel.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yep, he did not give a fuck and it literally lasted less than a week.

[–]johneyapocalypseThe one that says "Bad Motherfucker"6 points7 points  (27 children) | Copy

Ex-socialite, ex-a-few-other-things-not-fit-for-print.

The way you get out there to "cultivate a social life," is, simply, to open your pie hole and talk to everyone. And I mean everyone.

p.s. Note that your description of yourself makes you sound like some lame-ass dungeon-mastering weirdo who beats off to anime... so likely you need to solve that first.


I do this naturally but not everyone does.

  • Kid's get-together? Talk to every adult there and congratulate every kid.

  • Kid's birthday? Shake every dude's hand, kiss ever woman's cheek (twice) - fuck the handshake with women - and introduce your spouse where needed.

  • Random get-together - invite the other dads out for drinks. And fucking talk to people, including (gulp) women (aka moms).

  • Walking down the street, see a cool couple? Fucking talk to them... you're not a retard, right?

  • Waitresses, bartenders, bar managers, hostesses, and their bosses... all perfect fodder for hooking up and establishing a connection. So fucking connect. They expect every dumbass walking in the door to be blasting out of walmart with extra tacos, so you show 'em what's up and they're goddamn appreciative. For fuck sake I know the name of every damn bartender on the beach - Miami beach - and it affords me some "sociability" hillbilly op.

Just don't be a goddamn introvert. Introverts have their place in life, but "getting out there" and making a social life from scratch is not one of those places.

[–]Goobergus_Gubbins[S] 0 points1 point  (24 children) | Copy

I'm introverted to the bone, however I can do everything you're describing in my work environment. I talked to everybody across departments and other agencies did favors and asked for favors, sent head-up warnings so the guy wouldn't be blindsided. I'm not a social retard, it's just that i never did any of that stuff off the clock. When I attempt to branch out, I feel like Detective Adrian Monk try to talk football with the guys based on notes written on his palm. I can have occasional friendly conversations with baristas, dental techs, etc. but those people are paid to do so. Cold approaching randoms is where I need to be, and I'm dubious about taking the plunge. Edit: spelling

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'm introverted to the bone,

More excuses. You seriously need to take a look at that

[–]Goobergus_Gubbins[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I'm listening. Will cut that shit on next OYS.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ok, but cut it in your mind also. It’s a thinking habit you’ve formed over many years to protect your ego.

[–]RStonePT7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Introvert isn't a death sentence.

I'm an introvert, and all that means is I occasionally sneak off at parties for some quiet time.

Being social is a skill not a feeling

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I occasionally sneak off at parties for some quiet time.

You and Jona Lewie

[–]AlohaMaui8083 points4 points  (18 children) | Copy

Holy shit, you suddenly, as of this moment, have a new job in life - called being social. Its pro bono, but fuck it you decided you want to give back to your community (you are the prize, right?)

There I fixed your lame ass excuse.

Read Day Bang, practice for at least 2 hours a day on the street making cold "day" approaches on all types of people including 18+ yr old girls who just might think you're creepy gasp if you don't follow the material and use what should be natural to you! Elderly Chat goddamnit. Master it.

[–]Goobergus_Gubbins[S] 0 points1 point  (17 children) | Copy

18+ yr old girls who just might think you're creepy

Alright, will do. I've found that grandmothers have no limit to how much obvious flirting they like, but have not been approaching anyone I find attractive. Need to learn to love rejection and not fear it.

[–]AlohaMaui8081 point2 points  (16 children) | Copy

You havent read/listened to Day Bang. I can tell because you didn't recognize the term I just used. Get started immediately.

They would find another 18+ guy their age creepy too if he approached them wrong or wasn't ripped as fuck. It's not your age that makes you creepy.

Go read the book.

[–]hack3geRed Beret3 points4 points  (15 children) | Copy

Guy doesn’t realize old man game is like the best shit on the planet. You can literally talk about anything to a chick and the real communication happens in your body language and the way you say things.

Back when I first started gaming my sons preschool teacher who was 18 and teased the fuck out of her, ran some solid AM and made it well known that she could only be so lucky if I was interested in her. I found out from another teacher that she kept saying how much fun she had flirting with me and how hot I was and she didn’t understand why guys her age weren’t like that.

I ended up fucking her so clearly if you are good looking, jacked and have game - you can cover 20 years of age difference pretty easily.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando2 points3 points  (14 children) | Copy

You fucked your son's 18 year old pre-school teacher?


[–]hack3geRed Beret0 points1 point  (13 children) | Copy

Yeah it’s a long story - but basically I fucked some chick from the gym and after that since I already cheated I said fuck it and hit up the teacher when she came back for Christmas break from college.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando0 points1 point  (12 children) | Copy

In for a penny, in for a pound.

Do you still fuck around these days? I find it hard not to.. I rarely go looking for it but when the opportunity arises with someone I find attractive, I never turn it down.

I have one chick that I see on the regular. Usually at my office. It's a great place for role play.

I love fucking my wife these days - sex these days is even better than when we first met. I'm enjoying that and enjoying the connection. But I also love fucking other women too.

My main vices over the years prior to getting married - and even for some years after that - were drugs, drink and pussy. That was pretty much all I cared about. Getting stoned, drunk and laid. In that order.

Last year I jumped off the wagon and am enjoying all these things again. All in a very controlled manner, compared to my party days. Still like to party too, though. And fuck. Fucking is fucking great.

[–]hack3geRed Beret0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy

Yeah this all started two months ago so I’m relatively new to this. Gym chick was only the second woman I’ve ever had sex with - I got married young to the first woman I dated.

Gym chick is 24 years old and looking for a boyfriend but she texts me once a week now to fuck so that seems to be like it’s going to be a regular thing for the time being. Teacher chick went back to college so she’s not around but I fucked her 3 times so maybe she will be a thing when she’s home from school.

Honestly the whole thing has just made me more confused - I thought that if I cheated I would leave my wife for sure but despite the sex being fucking way better I didn’t get that strong desire to leave my wife. I’m basically just going with it for now with no plan which seems dangerous but fuck it.

[–]RoccoPinkman0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

What the fuck is wrong with beating off to anime?

[–]An_Actual_Politician0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Whether they know it or not, people invariably become the company they keep. That anime bullshit is 100% neckbeard, parents basement revolting to women.

[–]Defiant-Method5 points6 points  (6 children) | Copy

Don’t find something. Build something.

Like reading? Start a book club. Like bushcraft? Start a bushcrafting group. Like writing or meditation or both? Start a mindful writers group. Bonus dread points if you can host this club at a college campus and it results in a slew of ripe, tight female friends.

Build it and host it. My dad started an AA group and sat alone by himself working the steps every week for years before other people started attending it. Obviously you can’t afford to do that, but your mindset should be like a watered down version of that. Build it and they will come.

[–]AlohaMaui8080 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

I'm surprised that OP, who is retired, didn't respond to this excellent advice. Maybe he doesn't want to make that much of an effort?

[–]Goobergus_Gubbins[S] -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Not sure what you mean. I received excellent feedback, much of which is actionable. Including yours, although I'm going to defer that Tinder/Bumble business forward a bit.

[–]AlohaMaui8081 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Do you think Defiant's advice is a good idea? This advice is I think one of the best responses you've gotten.

Starting the club/group automatically gives you AMOG status that is much easier to maintain than trying to create your status in an already established group, comes with easy/automatic DHV, allows you better ability to set the tone and tempo,

The list of the benefits to doing this are extremely long, and since you have plenty of time on your hands, the downsides are few, and well within your ability to manage as well. It will require you to step up as a leader (not a tyrant, careful!) which will also help you get over your social anxiety and introversion in social settings.

You need to read Rational Male if you haven't yet as well. It talks about these things in depth. If you already read it, time to do so again, you're looking to increase your social footprint but the social implications found in RM apparently didn't sink in for you the first time you read it, or I guess didn't connect in your mind like it did mine when I read his comment.

[–]Goobergus_Gubbins[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I like the idea. When I was working, my teams performed well and had good morale. I empowered them to be decisive and take risks, and shielded them from executive hostility when things came off the rails occasionally. Good leadership, to me anyway, means equipping your guys to do the work and not be afraid of a little resulting messiness. Now need to find a topic that speaks to my competencies and could find an audience. Thanks for the specific advice.

[–]Goobergus_Gubbins[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

That's good. The only benefit of a meetup group is if you're the guy hosting it, which automatically makes you the AMOG.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

No. The AMOG is the AMOG - being a host gives you zero status other than being the host.

You have a LOT to learn.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy

I also sail several times a week, and attend a weekly BSDM class

You should try a BDSM class instead - they're much more fun.

[–]threekindsoflucky2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

I thought he said BDSM and was wondering why no-one had mentioned it yet.

[–]Goobergus_Gubbins[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

BSDM is like BDSM but way kinkier.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Do you get to eat ass on the first date?

[–]Goobergus_Gubbins[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Given that the typical attendee is a six foot six "transgender woman" I hope I don't find out. Good people to have a coffee with though.

[–]arm_candy2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

What the hell is a BSDM class? I’m assuming not a typo since guy getting denied sex is probably not in a weekly bondage class. Search turns up nothing though.

[–]simbarlionRed Beret6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

Come on..... you can't see the problem?

You're too comfortable. You have retired, you're financially independent, you have your sailing and your aquarium and cars (nice choices btw). You know what you like, she knows what you like. You have been together for ever. Kids are gone. You are more like friends than lovers. Life's easy cause you spent 30 years making it that way.

How fucking exciting do you think that is for her?

If you sound to me like you are just planning to kick back in your velvet recliner and slide on into a coma a couple of decades down the track, what must you appear as in real life...? BJJ out, Rock climbing out, excitement out. Passion out. Sex life - hanging in there somehow.

You sound like my Dad. He's pushing 80.

And FFS, it doesn't have to be through BJJ - Go an create some fear in your life - head out in 20 knots and sheet in the main like your life depends on it. When you make it back in and your wife asks why you need to spend $300 to replace 3 sheets and 2 blocks, tell her its because you nearly died.

Stop being a Pussy

[–]Goobergus_Gubbins[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

head out in 20 knots and sheet in the main like your life depends on it.

I do this every time there's a small craft advisory. Sometimes solo, but damn that's hard. I retired so I could do that sort of thing rather than grind out another year in the office. My lack of risk is not in the area of hairy smelly man stuff, I'm good there. But socially, I'm very much fly under the radar and be a gray man. I mean, I literally dress in expensive but invisible style. Dudes run into me at parties and introduce themselves, and don't remember that we talked for ten minutes a year ago. I leave no imprint whatsoever. This year I'm going to be working through childhood shame/fear issues with a therapist, maybe that will help some.

[–]EasyDaysHardNights1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Wear a fedora.

Fedoras are poon magnets.

[–]Goobergus_Gubbins[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'll get right on that. Look how well Mystery is doing these days.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

Welcome to testing. All the whiny shit you posted about, she already knows. Rock Climbing. BJJ. Etc.

You're in the waiting game test. She is seeing progress, your time and attention removed, and is responding with the only weapon she has: her pussy.

Initiate if you want, but I would initiate hard. Expect rejection beforehand and you won't be butthurt. Walkaway. Let her know who's pussy that is. Or don't, and dread game up the ladder. Your choice. Either way you can't lose.

Best of luck.

[–]Goobergus_Gubbins[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I always value your feedback. I'm moving forward with having a more independent schedule of activities and interests. Not being unfriendly or condescending. Initiating daily with about a 30 percent success rate. Working on being more OI, which many of the responses to this thread addressed.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Initiate because you want to fuck, not because it checks a box or because someone told you to try to fuck your wife daily.

I like fucking my wife daily, so that's what I do.

[–]Goobergus_Gubbins[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

As much as I value the collective experience on this forum, I keep in mind that they are, at the end of the day, internet randos. I make my own decisions, which is why I'm not creating a Tinder profile or "fucking 10 women" as a way to find myself. I appreciate your advice and perspective.

[–]mrpthrowa2 points3 points  (9 children) | Copy

How old is your hag? simple maths you're probably 25+28 = 53, so somewhere around that?

That's probably ungame-able. Just saying, do this for yourself, because the undertone of your post is that you're doing this to get her.

[–]hack3geRed Beret3 points4 points  (8 children) | Copy

I wondered this actually the other day - can you run game on the older ladies? Was talking to a buddy about how his grandfather is fucking half of the old folks home and it’s a straight orgy. That dude is probably one of you fuckers - he’s 70, still lifts like a banshee and clearly fucks.

[–]mrpthrowa1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy

I don't know, the time vs reward is certainly not appealing.

[–]hack3geRed Beret1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

Oh I meant like do game tactics work on women who are post menopause - like when I’m 70 will that shit work in the retirement home?

[–]Maximus_Valerius0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Try gaming an older lady. It works. They are all little girls at heart and eat that shit up when you treat them like they are.

Case in point. Last week, I was second in line at the department store checkout. The woman at the register had her little boy with her and he was acting out. I turned to the 70+ lady behind me, pointed at the boy with a smile, and said, “He’s not mine.” She smiled back and said, “Yeah, right.” Then we bantered for a few minutes. She smiled and laughed during the interaction, just like a twenty-something.

[–]Goobergus_Gubbins[S] -2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

The flaired older gentlemen on this forum indicate that all MRP strategies work just fine on older ladies. I follow u/man_in_the_world like a mountain-top guru, a couple others are also hardcore MRP guys that kept their original wives and arrived at a good end point.

[–]Maximus_Valerius0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

MRP strategies work just fine on older ladies.

You are still focused on her reaction. The tools discussed here are for YOU. You should be your focus, not your wife’s reaction to you. Your language shows you have a reflected sense of self, as a Nice Guy you look to others for validation.

kept their original wives and arrived at a good end point.

Again, “she”-focused language. The fact that the men you speak of are still married is irrelevant.

arrived at a good end point.

Another misconception. There is no end point; you’ll always be a recovering Nice Guy.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

You'll be fucking the nurses, not the inmates.

[–]hack3geRed Beret0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Oh I hadn’t even considered that as an option - intriguing.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Samuel Jackson, Jeff Bridges, Springsteen, Iggy Pop. All in their 70s.

Keep your game tight, keep lifting and you'll still be slaying it. Might need a good dose of Taladafil daily but fuck it, I don't plan on ever giving up until the day comes where I have to fuck a woman over 50.

[–]Grimsterr1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Signup for an adult education class, I took an auto body course years ago, I wanted to restore a car and didn't want to pay to have it painted, so I learned auto body.

Get a hobby, woodworking, welding, painting, goddamn it really doesn't matter, find something you are interested in, learn and pursue it, you'll find like minded guys to talk about it.

[–]Goobergus_Gubbins[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm' on that one. I'm already planning to take welding 1 this spring so I can fabricate subframe connectors for my floppy-frame 1980's convertible. Good idea, thanks.

[–]ZTRP1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Since you're into cars how about building a fast drag car Or maybe youre into circuit racing

This would be fun and cool Plenty of young 20 something year olds that want to get into the scene without the funds or experience

You have one life take advantage of it

[–]Goobergus_Gubbins[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Autocross is cheaper, but all the young hotties gravitate toward the drift dudes.

[–]ChokingDownRPRed Beret1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

When you say your wife has cut you off sexually after you not being clingy/needy... Are you still initiating and she's storming you down, or are you waiting for mommy to give you the validation you so desire?

Not much to add on the social advice, just get out and do fun things, don't be afraid to talk to people

[–]Goobergus_Gubbins[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Not rationalizing here, just explaining how it's been up to this point. My dick works perfectly when I sense my wife is receptive and/or aroused. Visual signal of that is she dons sexy lingerie. If she's in her granny jammies and curled up under the covers, when I try to initiate, my dick goes totally limp. Clearly, I have an internal fault that will need to be cleared before I'm able to initiate like a caveman. Like I've said in other posts, my sex life was frequent but dysfunctional.

[–]AlohaMaui8080 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

You're afraid of rejection. Read my other comment, it fixes this too (mostly, but mostly you just have to initiate, get rejected, and then actually sit with and process those feelings, not just avoid them)

[–]Goobergus_Gubbins[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Gotcha. Conflict avoidance in all areas, not just sexual, is my core personality fault. Working on that should yield gains across the board.

[–]AlohaMaui8080 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Be sure to do your "processing" somewhere other than in front of your wife

[–]Goobergus_Gubbins[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Good point. I need to be reminded of that all the time. It's my MAP, she doesn't need to know how the sausages are made.

[–]PreEntertain-3 points-2 points  (8 children) | Copy

Bro, hit the bar. Get to know the regulars. Get selfies with waitresses that wanna suck your dick and post them all over social media for granny to see.

DDDrrrrreeeaaaaddded whhhheeeaat

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Welcome to the Beta Dread Games.

[–]PreEntertain-3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy

dont be jealous just cuz you didnt think of it

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't worry - I've played them all. Even won a few medals.

[–]Goobergus_Gubbins[S] 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

I liked this advice right up to this so-called "social media" you speak of. But I do know a very flamboyant bartender at a PT's full of oxygen-tank grannies. Maybe I'll start there. Baby steps.

[–]PreEntertain0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

I know Social media is a fuck of a time waster but I love throwin' down some dread up on there.

[–]PreEntertain0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Good luuck!

[–]Goobergus_Gubbins[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Counterpoint: When I see some middle aged sad sack posting a selfie with a comic-con thot, that screams "pathetic loser" worse than anything I can think of.

[–]PreEntertain-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

yeah but you aren't the target audience.

What do you think buddies wife thinks? thats what matters!

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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