is anyone having a hard time finding male friends after you got muscular and better good looking ?

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January 8, 2020

Since I got jacked and changed my entire wardrobe and took care myself, I became muscular and good looking, I am having hard time finding male friends, it wasn’t like this before, when I didn’t used to lift and look like a shit and smoked weed, I had lot of male friends and keeping them around was no problem, but since I raised my smv I find it harder to find male friends that I enjoy of course, I am still in college and tried my best to be friends with guys but they all they do is make short conversations and avoid me, now it’s pretty obvious that’s it’s about the way I look, even in my student job a girl told me ‘’ I don’t know why men hate you’’ she finally said ‘’ it’s jealousy they are envious’ ( some guy probably told her that he hate me because she was the one to start this topic), Last time there was a party every other guy was invited but me, I never gave up but today I was really frustrated, so I tried again and started talking to this guy in my college , we really was connecting, but as soon he saw how ladies talk to me and how fit and well dressed I was, all his attitude changed towards me , fu** déjà vu, it really sucks not having close male friends, because there is lot of thing I don’t find myself comfortable telling to women who are really receptive to me. why some men have to be like this ? acting all insecure when I start to talk to them in front of their female friends or girlfriends, even this guy is the gym who I always initiate conversations with him and compliment him, as soon his girl come, avoid eye contact with me and even stopped talking to me, there is also this guy in work who stopped talking to me because I Talked to his ex, just talked I swear !! and countless of stories like this, it seems that they respect me more for looking more strong but damn I can feel the envy and the mate guarding. I am not an asshole when it come to male friends, when I am talking to a male in front of other girls I always try to compliment him and not to bring him down, but it’s like a dead end. guys see me now as thereat for the reproductions chances and not a potential male friend.

where to meet close male friends who accept the way you are ? and if you have one? how did you do it ?

I talking about close male friend, not a just a guy who you talk to the gym or work from time to time .

sorry for any grammer mistake, english is not my first language

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Title is anyone having a hard time finding male friends after you got muscular and better good looking ?
Author herrazki
Upvotes 110
Comments 123
Date 08 January 2020 08:01 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]majorketone153 points154 points  (33 children) | Copy

Make friends that are on the same level or greater than you. The average soy boy is intimidated by people that are better than them because it reminds them of their averageness. Join school clubs or hobbies that other masculine men are in. Also, I am not sure how you are in social interactions but the book "how to win friends and influence people" may be helpful.

[–]Truedemocracy641 points42 points  (23 children) | Copy


You’ll also find your new lifestyle is incompatible with theirs. Drink beer every night? Spend 6 hours on Saturday watching football? Play video games? Etc

If you’re doing the right things you’ll have no time for that

[–]thechaosz19 points20 points  (5 children) | Copy

I make 6 figures, own a side business, and work out 5 days a week. I also enjoy bourbon and football. In fact, I love it.

I give myself 3 hours, once a week, for a few months (hopefully more GO NINERS) to enjoy it. I don't watch tv, it bores me, I have a hard time even caring about movies. If anything I watch standup on Netflix before bed.

I get your generalizations, but it's not true for all.

Funny part is woman will say to me the same thing about football. I then bring up the dozens of hours a week they watch shows about dating, cakes, dresses, other peoples lives, stupid shit. They shut the fuck up real quick.

[–]i-am-the-prize8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

Funny part is woman will say to me the same thing about football. I then bring up the dozens of hours a week they watch shows about dating, cakes, dresses, other peoples lives, stupid shit. They shut the fuck up real quick.

do this sparingly. it's boderline DEERing. (maybe as a pressure flip DARE).

I may do that sometimes (counter some of my sports watching, noting my wife's screen time with RealHousewives, Below Deck, whatever) but realized, no, I don't even owe her an answer, as it's my time and a fracton of what she watches. I just ignore and not acknowledge it. Or will A&A, "you're right we should get the all inclusive sports package from Direct TV and matching team logo'd loungers for our family room" etc.

[–]thechaosz1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nice. Yeah it's really only when the go full crazy I mention it, in an amused sort of way.

[–]progressiseverything1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's a good comeback...abt the stereotypical shows that target women. Gonna use it.

[–]Truedemocracy61 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I love football too, especially around the playoffs. But there’s a difference between enjoying something and living around it. I have friends that you can’t schedule them to do anything Sunday because they will miss their football games. Or they live vicariously through their teams.

Trust in yourself to find moderation

[–]thechaosz1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oh it's just the 49ers.

Anything else I'm open. It's a generational thing.

I laugh at beta men who skip games because their nagging broad has some ideas and gives them shit.

MEANWHILE, they watch 60 hours of reality TV a week, but a 3 hour football game once week for 4 months is a problem

[–]amrit21chandi12 points13 points  (4 children) | Copy

That book is amazing. I'm currently listening to this on my commute. And I've realised so many things that all those years before my father and mentors tried telling me. And the things that it tells bring a change into your perspective.

OP if you haven't read this book yet. Do so immediately. One of my favorite quote from the book. 'Make the other person feel important and do it sincerely'.

[–]schroedinger110 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Which book are you talking about?

[–]amrit21chandi2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

"How To Win Friends & Influence People"

[–]schroedinger110 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

That's a great quote but wouldn't making the other people feel important be equivalent to putting them on a pedestal?

[–]amrit21chandi2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

If its not done at your own expense Then No, its not putting them on pedestal. There's emphasis on sincere part because when we're sincere we don't have ulterior motives and are outcome independent generally. Book explains it so much better with examples.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (3 children) | Copy

Facts, every 'man' that excells goes through this.

I got buff(15-16) my stoner, bad boy, druggy friends did not like it, hated on me, got jealous, due to girls. I said "fuck it" went off with the football team, was popular and respected, they kept being 'wannabe badass' out in the town.

I had one that was the typical 'fake best friend' type, when you're together he's cool, but in public or behind your back, talks mad shit about you, jealous and thought he was doing you a 'favor' to be friends...

I'll never forget he'd say shit to me like(as he's pointing at a janitor, or kids on a chaingang, picking up trash) "that's gonna be you and me, Polojames" and I'd get pissed and be like, "i'm going to college, I don't know what you're talking about", and h'd reply mockingly "Yeah, right, yeah right" etc....

Well, I quit being his friend at age 16(sophmore year), he got kicked out of school, I became a track star and football player, I went off to the top college in the nation, way higher than anyone in my high school(which pissed my entire shit town off), and got into graduate school...

Last I saw him, he was 27 years old, like the dude from "Dayz and Confused" that was kicking it with 'High school kids" but he was trying to sell drugs and punk teens, I just shook my head, spoke to him, same bullshit, same bitterness, same jealousy, same loser, and trying to get others 'hooked on drugs' so he isn't the only 'fuck up', man... fuck that kid.

Such is life, one thing I learned in life is this 'friendship isn't free' what I mean, they have to 'bring somethig to the table', if you're a pretty boy buff guy, our job is to 'get and bring girls' to the guys, and get us into clubs, or parties.

One guys job is to bring booze or drugs, or spots to go too.

One guy is the "tough guy" that can fight, or diffuse situations.

One guy is the 'safety guy' in a sense, keep us from getting arrested, calm each other down, or be the voice of 'reason'.

The fat guy, his job is to take teasing, the jokes, the humiliating things the group does to bond, and be the 'glue' that holds the group together when the guys or the Alpha males fight, since the fat boys job, is to be the one that everyone can go to, and feel they have a guy on their side... That's how it works, that's how you make a legit solid group of friends.

Good luck.

[–]D_Marquis4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Ugh I was the funky looking minority who took shit like the fat guy. Funny thing is: I was an ace student & all those verbal abuses made me incredibly resilient, witty & emotionally strong. Can you talk more about the different roles? That makes so much more sense now that you mention it.

[–]lokilis2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I also find the roles thing very interesting, and want to hear more.

[–]Dane501 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed. All part of the transition.

[–]swaghole6954 points55 points  (4 children) | Copy

The average male will find you intimidating because you might steal his gf/crush/sister/mother the more attractive you get, all while reminding them of their own mediocrity. Sad reality, but true from own experience on both sides of the coin. When i was still heavily BP i would always assume the bigger/attractive dudes were douchebags until i swallowed the pill and started to look at them as big bros who could teach me a thing or 2. But most people dont go through that phase and will always see you as too superior so your only option to find quality friends is in the same enviroment you thrive in (sports, hobbies)

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy

Story of my life, it's hard for us "Chads" in life...

When I was a scrawny fck at age 14, I had a lame group of friends, but friends, they would befriend me, to make jokes, etc.. but when I got into sports, started to do 'well', instant hate, all those friends turned on me, etc... I said 'fck it' went with the jocks, made some friends, but even then, I was 'too buff' etc.. I was 'intimidating people' etc...

Then in college I said, "fuck it", and I'm just me, buff as fck, handsome, but give off my humor hard, make jokes, and act like the 'jock stereotype' and I still get a lot of 'hate' but, I have best friends too, and they're usually bigger, or fat guys, that can see past the shit, and see a 'good friend' but I'm loyal as fck, and would never 'f*ck their girl' and have their back, and I'm like 'wont bend my word' type guy...I liken it to being Jamie Lannister or Jon Snow in Game of Thrones, people hate you from the onset, then you gotta show them you're not 'what they think of pretty boys'.

If I had a quarter for every friend that I've had that told me, "When I first met you, I thought i'd hate you", or "When I first met you, I thought you were a cocky piece of shit, but you're one of the best guys I know!"

Haha, I learned to deal with it, with the pussy, comes the hate, such is life. It's what happens when you pray to 'Brodein".. haha

[–]Forsaken43211 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yep this. Male friends are called bros for a reason. For gods sake go order fucking himym bro code :D

[–]Endorsed Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil51 points52 points  (32 children) | Copy

Why don't you just be friends with gym dudes?

[–]herrazki[S] 34 points35 points  (27 children) | Copy

It's a honor that you replied to my topic, I do enjoy all of your posts on TRP.

I have a lot of people that I know in the gym, but I find it hard to became close.I mean to hang out outside the gym.

I enjoy women trust me but sometimes you just want a good bro who will understand you if you're having a hard time .

[–]voyager1424 points25 points  (3 children) | Copy

“Yo man, wanna grab lunch after this?”

[–]Greaterbird43 points44 points  (2 children) | Copy

"It's 8PM"

[–]Ill_mumble_that1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

"For you"

[–]Endorsed Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil17 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy

Just eat with them after. What's the problem?

[–]Sweetune2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

sorry i don't like eating out, it's not a part of my diet.

[–]Ill_mumble_that5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Invite them over to your house then to eat. Have a brojob and some paleo.

[–]ejaculatingphallus12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Then slap each other's asses, "jokingly," in the shower and sauna, like all gym guys, everywhere, all the time, admiring the smoothness and muscularity of the gluteus, but it's okay.

[–]bayfarm3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Are you sure it's not the vibe you are giving off?

[–]bert_cj21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy

I started my fitness journey with my friends at age 17. I got buff. I still had the same core group of friends so nothing really changed. When I went to college I still made other friends. Idk man no one has ever been salty toward me. If anything I got nothing but positive recognition from guys. Asking what workouts I do, how do I eat, stuff like that.

I’m not saying what you’re saying isn’t valid. Maybe take a step back and view how your attitude and interactions are with these guys. One of the most jacked guys at my gym is the most popular dude there. This dude is huge and super jacked but he’s such a nice guy and super charismatic that everyone loves him. I was never super jacked but I was definitely noticeably muscular. 210lb, 6’0, 12% body fat. Most dudes gave me positive recognition. It was almost annoying at times getting so much attention from dudes. I consider myself a super chill guy. In college my two closest friends were really small dorky guys, but they liked me. Often would make remarks about my muscle but I mean it was never negative.

[–]amphix33916 points17 points  (4 children) | Copy

Become friends with older guys

They'll have less ego because you'll be competing for different things in life, more or leas

Its easier said than done ofcourse, but that's who I've gravitated towards more. I'm 19, very good looking and muscle bound, in college you'll meet guys in their 20s who have their shit together.

I see them as learning opportunities more than friends. The way focused men conduct themselves can add a lot to your game, with women and otherwise

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[–]Kink32 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You can meet a ton of cool blue collar buddies at car meets, drag strip, riding motorcycles. Mostly just find a hobby you're into, keep an open mind about meeting new people and it'll happen.

[–]Forsaken43212 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

.. friends never compete, they work together and share the price of war

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is my experience on the matter:

Yes, 100%. It's not just limited to that however.

I've got more muscular, my face looks older, I've developed my own style, I've matured a lot, I've experienced more in my life, I've learned a lot of about people, I've massively increased my confidence, and I've found my purpose in life, and it is a purpose that I work towards everyday.

I'm comparing this to when I was 15, back then, I was lost, the facts above did not apply to me then, but funnily enough, I had more friends compared to now. I would consider myself average back then.

I'm 18 now, and I could count the number of friends I have right now on one hand. It's worth noting as well, my definition of a friend isn't someone who I know and get along with, these are what I consider acquaintances. I have a lot of these, but only a few minute amount actually become someone who I consider a friend. A friend to me, is considered a brother.

A lot of people who I class as my acquaintances, are people I would consider average. The biggest thing I judge a person on, to class if they are average or not, is if they have a purpose in life. A lot of people do not have a purpose in life, or they think they do, but it's not what they truly want. I've found that people without a purpose in life, are more likely to be lacking in confidence, more likely to waste their life away doing unproductive things such as drinking every weekend without fail, chasing women too much, playing too much video games etc.

When I pick up on this, I have little to no interest in wanting to spend more time with them. This ain't a conscious decision either, subconsciously, they just don't challenge me. They agree with everything I say, and try to please me all the time. Like, for fucks sake.

It can be very frustrating at times, sometimes I wish someone had the balls to be completely blunt with me, or raise their voice to me, or even fight me. I'm not saying no one ever does, but right now, about 95% of the people I meet (ESPECIALLY my age group) haven't got the balls to. However, I've found that a lot of older blokes have the balls though.

I like someone who challenges me, someone who isn't afraid to say what they think, and tell me straight up. The reason why? Well, they do challenge me on that subconscious level, these are the people that will get shit done in life, these people will challenge the status quo and question everything in their life. They are free thinkers. I am absolutely fascinated with these peoples opinions, especially when they have the ability to talk extremely deep about what they've got to say, it shows that they are searching for the answers in life.

These people ultimately become my friends.

Have you ever noticed that celebrities have a lot of friends who are also celebrities? This even applies if the two celebrities are in different industries, Brad Pitt and Chris Cornell for example.

The average attract the average. The champions attract the champions.

[–]orishasinc223 points24 points  (3 children) | Copy

Young man, I sense a tid bit of narcissism in your story. Sounds like a woman who just grew her first pair of titties and think of herself as a princess. Look, there is more to life than looks and muscles, for a man especially. Your fake humility is quite obvious by reading your lite biography, and you sound quite immature. Now, combine immaturity with musculature and you wonder why most guys aren't too keen on having you around! No one is obliged to like you or embrace you. No, it is may not necessarily have to do with your sudden growth of biceps and chest hair. You might just perceive it as such since your self absorbed self cannot think outside of a bench press or protein fartin shake. It might just be that you have developed a shitty personality since you purchased that cheap Mike Rashid's made in Bangladesh " Alpha" shirt. It is you my Friend who has changed, for the worse.

[–]ShenFrog4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Can’t believe I had to scroll this far to hear a similar reaction.

So let me get this straight, this guy has friends. Then lifts weights. Somehow believes that makes him too good for his old friends. Then wonders why people don’t like him? The poster sounds like a giant D bag. I have friends who lift or don’t just like I have friends who go to school or never did. Friends are friends and he sounds like a shit one I wouldn’t want and I don’t even know him.

Edit: Don’t scroll any lower the guy just quoted something about it being lonely at the top of the pyramid... Jesus Christ

[–]oldertybasterd10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

Finally. I had to scroll to far to see this. I’m surprised he didn’t say he has trouble shitting because his dick won’t stop touching the toilet bowl ever since he started lifting and his dick grew

[–]PepeApuSmidgeMarvNog3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hey dude, my balls are so big and hang so low they actually hit the water when I sit down to shit. I have to get on gear just to properly evacuate.

[–]CuntMonteCristo13 points14 points  (9 children) | Copy

I have the same problem, might not help you, but at least you know you are not alone. Look for the few that are on your level close or not envious, which will not be plenty as we know but that is the price of greatness.

The top of the pyramid is not a crowded place but has the greatest view...

[–]herrazki[S] 9 points10 points  (7 children) | Copy

''The top of the pyramid is not a crowded place but has the greatest view...''

That's got to be the best quote I read today

[–]BeLeafer_19678 points9 points  (5 children) | Copy

You’re nowhere near the top of the pyramid. You have no friends........

[–]CuntMonteCristo0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Frustrated people like you should be removed from this sub, all you make are those envious shitty comments that don't contribute anything at all to someone trying to improve their lives. You should go back to your Semenretention Sub where you came from...

[–]BeLeafer_19670 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Nah you’re trying to prop him up and make him feel more high value than he is. This whole post was an approval seeking humble brag and you enabled his behaviour and make him feel special for being a loner. If people don’t like being around you it’s not because you’re “so great”

[–]CuntMonteCristo0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Sure dude that is why all the achievers here share the same problem except you..if no one is jealous of you, it's because there is nothing to be jealous about...

[–]BeLeafer_19672 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Are you blind to the fact that the most high value guys tend to have big social circles and people that idolize them? Sure there’s going to be jealous guys, but these guys have large groups of friends who are also high value and can learn things from each other. Not saying I’m that but to think that having every single guy want to be nowhere near you is a good thing, that’s hilarious. You really just sound like a bitter loner who’s let TRP affect your ego

[–]CuntMonteCristo1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You are welcome my friend, just try to find guys that are around your level without too much of a difference. It happened to me more than once and probably to you that when you meet these guys with their girlfriends for the first time often the girl scans you, like we all do when we meet someone new to know where we stand, and they give you that look like "You can have me if you want" so it is understandable that these guys feel like that but if you hang out with guys that are around your level that usually does not happen. Unless you have a buddy that is much lower SMV and accepts that and his girl is so ugly he knows you won't bang her, that is another option. That is why Brad Pit hangs out with George Clooney. They know they are on the same level and can relax..

A little motivation..this is how it looks from the top of the pyramid when you dare what other's won't...

Good luck buddy...

[–]z2a1-90 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The top of the pyramid is not a crowded place but has the greatest view...

good shit

[–]brennyflocko4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

No only you

[–]PinacoladaSauce4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

As you level up so should your friends. If your current friend group seems stagnant and unsupportive than you need new friends simple as that. Try and find people with higher SMV than you because they will only bring you up the totem pole

[–]dzkkne4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

All my friends I have made through out life was through one and only method- you find a male that you like (looks cool, behaviour, does something you like etc) and you test him by - challenging him to compete, test his frame by dissing a little bit or just invite to do some stuff together - if you like how he respond i.e. doesn’t get defensive, understands your vibe - then you proceed to get closer by doing more activities.

Basically all my good friends are guys who are competitive, have purpose and don’t get offended easily. Kind of bros you can use a lot of dark humor, say fuck off and fuck you and know they won’t get bitter about it. Of course there are situations where you show them that you respect them on high level. There will be situations in your relationship where it will be tested sooner or later and that’s when it’s important to show that you can be on his side i.e personal life problems, motivation issues or practical issue where you can help out

[–]patspr1de982 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

No, if anything it makes it a lot easier

[–]shrimenow2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I can understand brother.I used to big and buff, I used to bully people ,this was way back in school , I came to college lost a lot of weight went from 90 kg to 65 .I went to the skinny side of things.Peoples outlook towards me changed , they looked at me if I were a nerd , or I eve tease women, my peers used to physically bully me .Then when I started getting bigger the bullying on me intensified because now they had a perception of me a certain way because these friends were in college and they always knew me as super skinny.Then when I told them about my phases they laughed and beat me up.True story .This is how sensitive men are .Then now when I work out ,the other guys at the hostel look at me as a threat.Even worse I go to the gym with a very good friend of mine.They try the weirdest things to get to her.They will overhear our conversations about workouts and say the exact opposite thing to her to make me lose my stand. I know I could just be wrong but the number of times this has occured is no coincidence.

[–]theUnBannableHulk4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

In biological terms, you are a reproductive threat because your sexual market value is higher than theirs and men are designed to dislike reproductive threats.

Sauce: I’ve got extensive experience with the idiots trying to fight with me because theirs girlfriends won’t leave me alone

[–]strainer1235 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

You sound arrogant and self-obsessed, try dropping this whole better than you attitude and people might start liking you, I can feel your entitlement from the way you write.

[–]Galaticchild1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Absolutely lost a few of my Manlet friends who felt sized up! Just join wrestling and make friends who are on the same vibration as you! When I was fat and sloppy I had a friendw who I hung out with all the time! Flash forward seen him years later still short gave me cold shoulder and a mean mug was still civil but cold about it! Then he started puffing his chest every time he walked past me!

[–]Dboy22331 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s crazy man they wana keep you down shits ass backwards

[–]EdvardMunch1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Because you're a threat. This is like redpill about men men often dont see. In some cases you might be welcomed when its about attracting women around you period (very low smv guys). But the moment you come around and everyone of these dudes is tryna work angles on some ladies youre right in the way. Not only will they feel insecure but theyll be angry youre stealing the attention.

It kills their tricks, their good conversation abilities, whatever these dudes might hold onto that makes them unique and attractive to a girl. If you have too much of it all they'll be like fuck that guy.

I just started hanging out with women, its the best move.

[–]toughenup20161 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sure. People are jealous that you are more muscular and better looking than them and they start accusing you of being on steroid because they don't think it's possible naturally. Like the saying, it's lonely at the top. It sure is.

[–]thechaosz1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Please guys. This is a reddit plague. I don't know if the decided to not teach English in school anymore (seriously, so many pots are like this), or you're special.

Paragraphs. Please.

[–]belowAverageStudent11 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I feel you bro, its the same for me, its tough being at the top of the food chain because of all these gains brother. Hold tight and keep grinding and good things will eventually come

[–]Dboy22330 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Since the gains people have been trying to get you off the gain train shits so Comical

[–]i-am-the-prize1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

it's their problem, not yours.

just keep on your mission and gravitate towards other DOers. Guys comfortable in themselves won't mind your higher status, nor hate you for it. Only self-doubting losers. The up and comers will want to be your wing, just like you'll want to be around guys doing bigger and better than you, when you want to hang/go out.

aside: your social skills may have become soft, too. 2 of my Weed using Friends, found that post weed/post college, they had more challenge making new friends when the bong passing wasn't an instant connection prop, fwiw.

[–]SpecialSpnk1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Get into BJJ or MMA training. You will find masculine friends who are excellent people that will push and drive you to be better.

[–]aDrunkenWhaler1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You are either arogant, full of youraelf and not very likeable, or surrounded by very low quality men. I'd put my money on the first.

[–]LordFlakkko1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Look at it this way. I'm 5.10 and decently built. I have a 6 pack and I'm lean. If a 6.2 dude cokes along whos the same women will look at him no matter what. All women are whores. I,know rp philosophy says women are replaceable but unless your 6 feet or look like a model its hard to get good replacement plates.

What am I supposed to do? Watch and laugh while you take my bitch?

[–]Lesibihonest0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No, but I keep a small group of friends anyway. I will say men and women (mainly women) be trying to know everything about me and hangout with me.

[–]AbundanceLifeStyle0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

When you start to get successful you’re going to have haters it means you’re doing the right thing. This means you need to level up and get new friends and hang out with the alphas

[–]NigroqueSimillima0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Being good looking makes it easier to make friends with high quality men, and harder to make friends with low quality men.

Do you actually have any hobbies?

[–]IrvineKafka0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, I am - they all want to fuck me now.

[–]Kizzou0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Make friends who are older. Make friends who share your common interests. Join clubs. Get a social hobby (some form of martial arts is a good choice).

Stop trying and caring about hanging with these losers in your peer group. Its high school drama that shouldnt be a part of any adults life

Edit: i also have to agree with the sense of narcissim in this post. Tone down the ego. Always be humble

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorFieldLine0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I hang out with people who are rooting for me and hope I succeed, not people in competition with me.

it really sucks not having close male friends

You only need a few. I can count my good friends on one hand

[–]iwviw0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

From my experience alphas have people latch on them not off them. If people aren’t messing with you it’s probably your energy. Be social with everyone... even normies

[–]Forsaken43210 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

1st how did you manage to not keep 1 childhood friend ? 3-4 real close friends are really enough. The rest are acquointances ( sry for misspelling english is my 2nd language)

Long term male friendship is built through shared hardships, doing stuff together and loyalty. ( yes loyalty means not fucking women they like even if you could.) If one of the pack likes a girl she is no mans land.

And friends care for the weaker of the pack, .. always.

When i go out with 2 of my friends im clearly not the alpha. Jacked up 2 meter body builder dudes. But we still hunt women as a pack. And nobody will be left behind anywhere. So for example we are all somewhere but call in every other hour. Even if one is hooking up.

School friends, here im clearly the alpha, same dynamics.

I think your problem is the kindness of the weak. When you were lower level you had to be nice. So people "liked" you now you dont behave like this anymore so they dont.

And of course you are seen as conpetitor to ressouces girls etc.

Works the same like for male lions. Usually they go and compete alone.

But if there are male lion twins, they often work together and fuck up the competition together share the price.

This is the relationship you want. Eye contact in a devil threesome is forbidden btw ;)

[–]inkoDe0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There are a couple ways to look at this. 1) you are just so much advanced then your relationships now or maybe you are being a bit narcissistic. Something i really like about my frat years is just understanding brotherhooid.

[–]Nikelu0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Made both my best friends in the gym. Both are doctors 27/25yo and I'm 24 now. I just spotted them in bench and then after some chatting and now after years we are brothers . And also some of his friends are awesome so I got extra friends from the interaction

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[–]MidgetHunterxR0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You're in the wrong community for that because those kind of people don't think of women as sexual objects, like Red Pilled ppl lol

[–]TheH1dd3nFear0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Pussy worship and need. Join a Boxing or Wrestling club.

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[–]TheH1dd3nFear0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Oh god yes, back in the day it was like "Bro did u get laid yet?" Now generation beta sperg are like "Do U Have an GUURRLFREIND" (Emotional tampon)

[–]JurJur-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

idk man but this reads really pathetically cringe from my point of view. Maybe this is all in your head but i feel like your guy classmates are probably justified with their distance towards you seeing how much of a douchebag you sound. Like cause tbh you sound like a conceited asshole with how you view other guys and i wouldn't even wanna hang with you after seeing how you view others. Every guy has a at least a couple of friends to regular and normally connect with. I have never thought that everyone who doesn't treat me kindly would be envious of me. That sounds like a psychopath to me.

[–]StarbornProject-2 points-1 points  (3 children) | Copy

May I ask, how long did it take for a really good change? I'm on this path myself and so far I've seen noticeable changes in half a year, I'm wondering how things will be 2-3 years down the road. Thanks

[–]herrazki[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I have been lifting for 4 years, people always give me compliment about my body whatever I go

[–]herrazki[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I also dress really good,

[–]StarbornProject-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's exactly what I wanted to know, thanks

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