So basically women will fuck the most attractive guys they can and will only settle down when they've hit The Wall?

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Title So basically women will fuck the most attractive guys they can and will only settle down when they've hit The Wall?
Author BreakBad9002
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Date 15 January 2020 10:45 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]frognads135 points136 points  (17 children) | Copy

Basically! Fortunately for you mr average, there are only so many king alphas to go around, so just be better than average and you have a fighting chance.

[–]basilisk_girth57 points58 points  (1 child) | Copy

This, it’s not as straightforward as OP thinks.

[–]TheWalkingNightmare17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

With everyone tossing around abstruse information, this thread is so much fun.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (8 children) | Copy

Yes. Not every girl will get an alpha better than you

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[–]i-am-the-prize5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

An average girl will prefer to be the part of a Chads harem

what she wants and what she can actually get are 2 diff things.

a chad on a bored/slow/drunk night, may ONS an HB5, but like hell he will invest real time in her.

I do think that the maxim "some women would rather have part of a high value man than all of a lower value man" is truer than appears, but it doesn't answer all.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Of course. But not every girl gets to be with a dude like that. Even if you're not the ultimate Chad, if you find a girl who is like a 6 or 7 (my preference) whose parents are still married, she hasn't always fucked a dude better than you. She might know of guess like that, but she can't get with one. So that makes you the standard for comparison to her. I'm with one right now, she's definitely never had better, and she treats me like a king, very little hassle.

[–]Imperator_Red0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Yes they do. They don’t get to date chad but the get to fuck him.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Alright man. I disagree that all girls have been fucked by a real Chad. Most have maybe. But some others thought they had been, but then I fucked them, so now i'm the best Chad they've had. I guarantee a few have never had better.

[–]AmIDyslexicStoner419-4 points-3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Oh god a cancerous incel

[–]mikalepkoslika-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, yeah, you are what we call a Chad and you send money to the ladies that show horny men their naked arses in internet. Ok. We got it.

[–]Imperator_Red-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why is this downvoted? This is TRP 101

[–]blurredlines123455 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy

Yea but you wife/gf 80% go and rawdog those guys behind your back.

Good friend of mine is a Fitnestrainer, how often he fucks married women when we go out absolutely rawdogging them is beyond stupid.

Are we getting more and more trad cucks in here ?


[–]i-am-the-prize5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

In my 20's, when I swore off LTR at age 24, until I was 30, I had several FWBs of my own age, and younger ONSes, but also had a steady stream of 35-45 yo married women who'd ping me on the regular. These were some of the hottest older women I'd seen/still see, very successful working, fit, sexy, smart and bored women.

A common tactic: they'd come to my place instead of the gym in the morning before work. Meaning they'd leave home, kissing hubby good bye for the day, pat their kids on the head and dressed in workout gear, work clothes in their shoulder bag, and said they'd be showering at the gym after their workout. Instead, they'd come over, slip in the backdoor (I wouldn't even get out of bed to let them in) they'd come up, morning sex, annoying my male roommates and often waking them. These women would then d shower at my place and go to work. Would hear from them every few months, some weekly.

It was concierge poon of variety and these women were fucking hungry and experienced. I know I wanted and did fuck 20-25 yo women when I was out and hunting with friends, but for some "let it fall in your lap" strange it was niiiiice.

So the OP is stating something incomplete, not only will women fuck who they want in their 20's, if the BB guy they "settle for" doesn't rock their world, they'll still go back to fucking chads (ahem) when they feel the cost/benefit ratio is in their favor. Which is: anytime they want.

The only way to avoid it (or reduce the chances) is to be the fucking prize and be a point or 2 higher SMV than your woman, give her feels/tingle, game her like a FWB, and be a man with a Mission that she knows she's lucky to have.

You're not hers, it's just her turn << that has to be your mindset.

[–]xxx69harambe69xxx1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

ill need to watch out for milf hunter roommates

[–]RoughTeddy0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

How were you meeting these women? It sounds like it was pre-app era, so were these just public encounters that you gamed?

[–]i-am-the-prize0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I was young dumb and full of ___ so two were from work, one for the same company, diff department; the other was a vp/director/whothefuckknowsorcares-bigwig of sales for a vendor who visited the site for a preso and I got stuck helping her with her crap ["you're strong, help this nice lady with her swag"]. talked them both up, etc.

another I met walking my roomate's dog, he was an airline copilot so was out of town a lot. she had a dog. we had dogs. we did it doggy style a lot. coincidence? I don't think so...

another was a BFF of one that co-worker above, their husbands golfed together. she blabed drunk one night on a girls-night-out and her friend sought me out later. yup. I used to "threaten" this one that I'd tell the original one to have a 3some. She didn't like that and got jelly and cut me off for a month, so it wasn't mind games, she wanted her life very compartmentalized.

another at the neighborhood pool, she was there with her kids and kept staring. [I was sub 10% BF and 5'11" and 196#].... she just kept staring so when her kid went in the pool I sat down near her, but didn't face her, made it like a cia/covert drop. i simply asked her if she was bored with her life (by then the others had told me they did it for: the feeling of a younger/harder body, the validation it gave them to know "they still had it", or the excitement against the backdrop of a boring life of monotony) she squealed and said she was bored silly. I offered to "fuck her silly", and she LOL'd and we met within a week. get to a point where you just don't care and you know you have the stuff. a few years before that, I couldn't have imagined saying shit like that. A few years later, in my current LTR I remembered 'that guy' like a distant cousin... too distant, that was my issue, and why I found MRP to fix myself and take back my manhood.

[–]Imperator_Red0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I don’t know if it’s tradcucks... it’s just totally uniformed blue pillers.

[–]iphone500074 points75 points  (7 children) | Copy

Yes, but it’s all about their perception.

If they perceive you as the prize then you win! Improve yourself and your life so you don’t see perceive yourself as a ‘regular’dude.

[–]pilot33310 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy

This is true. The amount of times girls hook up with literal losers who they see as the "prize" - it's crazy.

[–]Greek-God-Brody2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

They hook up with them in ONS, but they don't enter into LTRs with them. Girls have higher standards when it comes to LTR's, especially when they're younger, under 25.

[–]mikkeldaman1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Girls hook up with "losers" for various reasons. Otherwise you'd have a world full of alpha males. Yet, ironically, women get a stronger and stronger voice as the day passes.

[–]KingGerbz0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Do these chicks choose these losers bc they’re the prize or are they the prize bc these chicks choose these losers?

[–]pilot3330 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

first one, even though it’s artificial

[–]sjswander9412 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Any single mom that needs a payday is going to see betabux as the prize. As long as you see yourself as the prize you win is a more accurate statement.

[–]Former-Rabbit3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, but it’s all about their perception.

If they perceive you as the prize then you win!

This. Women pine only for the most quality guys in the community, but their ability to judge who's actually on top is not flawless. If you know what you're doing, she might see you as the best guy available even if that's not objectively true.

[–]iCeeYouP25 points26 points  (13 children) | Copy

Yup. Today's technologies made this 1000% for women to easily do. Just remember it's important to not hate the player(the top guys getting laid), but the game.

[–]pilot3331 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Just remember it's important to not hate the player(the top guys getting laid), but the game.

I always get into dominance disputes with some of these dudes. I believe they're jealous because of my professional success. I don't know if I should back down from the drama and make friends or what.

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[–]pilot3332 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't know. I actually hooked up with a girl in a bar, then there was a fight, she ran over and got involved, she ended up hooking up with one of the guys in the fight and I left with my group.

[–]bilabrin1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's about a number of things. Birth control removed the negative consequences of sex outside of marriage. There is no longer a social stigma for that or for divorce. Child support means that divorce is no longer disincentivized. Social services are available for women when birth control doesn't work, even if they don't know who the father is. We have made free housing and food available to almost everyone regardless of thier behavioral patterns so there's no consequence anymore for behavior that would have ruined people in previous years.

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[–]alpha_bravado2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Could not care less!

[–]Coolguy1699100 points101 points  (11 children) | Copy

Pretty much

[–]Ludwig_von_Kill_U15 points16 points  (10 children) | Copy

Isn't that what guys do? I mean that's what I try to do anyway. I go for the cute chicks.

[–]Enlightened_Chimp29 points30 points  (3 children) | Copy

Guys fuck the most attractive girls they can, but typically have to fuck down because the sexual market is completely imbalanced these days (unless they're in the top 5%). They also don't hit a wall, they appreciate well into 40s and 50s if you take care of yourself and work hard.

[–]bionix9010 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

It's imbalanced for everyone, the top 5% just get to benefit from said imbalance.

[–]Enlightened_Chimp5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Right that's what I meant

[–]alpha_bravado1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The problem is that more young Chad's come through and that women who are fertile will want to be around similar age range, especially in modern culture where Instagram is king and they want be in pics with young guys who have a compact mid face, hunter eyes and a good ramus and filtrum.

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[–]theyearsstartcomin4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

And if there’s no drama they will create it.

For thots, yes.

There's no incentive to being in a relationship with a thot and you should be able to discern between a HV woman and a thot long before you consider an LTR.

HV women will substitute drama for achievement as a unit.

Rare though that is.

[–]blissfullyaware009 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

Try reading the Rational Male. Men peak at 35 and can easily slay pre-wall women well into their 50s if they are fit and have money. Everyone has seen the 50 year old dude with the 27 year old model.

Women peak at 24 and by the time they are into their mid 30s, most men won't give them a second look.

So no, this isn't what guys do. You are the prize, don't settle for shit.

Edit: nm, I didn't see ops comment below the heading. But the info above is still correct in general.

[–]J-baller0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

So the key component is to have money

[–]askmrcia2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

So the key component is to have money

Yes, the older you get the more money you should have. The guys who are slaying at an early age have money. Yes the drug dealers too because they have fast money.

Money attracts women. Now money alone doesn't attract women, but it helps a lot. The same way a college degree doesn't guarantee a good job, but it damn sure puts you in position to get one.

[–]laserdicks0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There's one extra factor: guys don't have the marriage safety net.

[–]RedSkeller50 points51 points  (8 children) | Copy

Mostly, not every woman is AWALT but the second you start making exceptions it gives all the purple pill folk glimmers of hope. Nowadays even wall women just hit the wall and lay there, they don't even find a dude to take care of them because they refuse to drop their standards and drink themselves to death in their lavish apartments with their golden retrievers.

[–]iwviw7 points8 points  (5 children) | Copy

On point. Taking trips to Thailand and shit

[–]RedSkeller3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

I mean if you're going to take a 20+ hour plane ride to bang hookers go for it

[–]sullenday3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Lol effort still pales in comparison to gaming americunts.

[–]Dallas366 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

sounds like a guy whos salty and doesnt put in effort into his life to attract hot women so pays for them instead

[–]clausternn3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

You always pay for women one way or another. Whether it's with money or with time.

[–]Pluglord9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Complaining on Twitter about Chads not wanting them

[–]Itshighnoon7771 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

"with their golden retrievers" lmao so fucking true 😂😂

[–]watchguy450 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Haha so true. Last girl I was with had a bulldog which was so clearly replacing a child she wanted deep down but wouldn’t admit she wants .

[–]volvostupidshit13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's an oversimplification of the situation but generally true.

[–][deleted] 41 points42 points  (27 children) | Copy

That’s the reality for 80% of western women (CC). It’s a tough pill to swallow but realize that almost every man has the potential to get to the top 5% of men, at that point you can either fuck girls on the CC or try and find a high quality LTR, it’s your choice but you gotta be a HVM if you wanna play the game.

[–]rockyp324 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

But what sucks is all of us can’t succeed. We couldn’t all be top 5%

[–]GandMeChattri7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

Vast majority are cucks though. It's not that hard to be top 20% by just having a lean muscular body. Earn better then 10%.

[–]theyearsstartcomin1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Not even that. Just don't be an emotional faggot and be comfortably in control (not a control freak) and you'll be fine. With the right girl of course, but any girl that isn't the right fit for that isn't worth having.

Why wife a thot?

[–]rockyp320 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I agree just by being ripped and having a job any where I’d like top 40% those guys may not make as much but they’re saving more than they’re doing better off

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[–]iwviw18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s not only about if their virgins. There’s a lot that makes a women “quality”

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

If that’s what you consider high quality, sure. They would fall under the 20% who aren’t CC

[–]dynospectrum76 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

Let me tell you right now, think twice before you take the virginity of a religious woman that is >25 years old.

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[–]theyearsstartcomin2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

If she's high quality, why couldn't she find a decent man before 25?

Food for thought

[–]pen3153 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Most of the religious women marry at 20 have 2-3 kids then divorce at 24 because feelings and tingles Edit - religious American women

[–]Imperator_Red0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

I heard that in some religions pre marital sex is basically forbidden?

You heard? Lol isn’t this like the basic foundation of every religion?

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[–]Imperator_Red0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Oh ok I see what you mean. Yea that’s just the cultural standard more than the religion itself. All the Abrahamic religions say basically the same thing about pre-marital sex and slutting in general - its bad.

Some cultures have managed to hang onto the strict interpretation; this is basically Muslims, Orthodox Jews, and a few isolated pockets of Christianity. The problem is that you really need to be part of one of these groups to participate in this culture. You can’t just say I’m converting to Anabaptist and I’m finding an a conservative Anabaptist woman and her religion will keep her faithful. You have to actually be part of the Amish Anabaptist community where their cultural practices influence the woman’s behavior.

If you live in mainstream culture it’s not going to work. She can opt out whenever she wants and society will enable her.

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[–]Imperator_Red0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Can you read?

[–]Merica9112 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

It’s a tough pill to swallow but realize that almost every man has the potential to get to the top 5% of men

And I think you haven't swallow it by this statement.

No, not every guy has the potential to be the top 5%. DNA plays a HUGE factor in also being in the top 5%

If you're short, Bald, just have an ugly face.. There's nothing in the world you can do to change that.. Yeah you can have a 6 pack, drive a lambo, dress like James Bond... And at the end of the day, you look great what you have to work with but there's going to be a hand full certain class of women that's just isn't into you. And yeah you might even pull an 8 or an 9 here or there.. But let's be honest, if you look nothing like a professional sports athlete, like height 6'5" avg, you're not going to "potential" your way up.

You gotta understand now where we're at in 2020 Global economy, High speed social media Internet etc etc... Your tribal social Circle just went from 50 to quarter of 1 million over night. That cute girl that you grew up with down the street WILL find herself a fire fighter that's 6'2".. The point I'm trying to make, the internet ( Instagram and tinder) now just made the upper class of good looking girl enabling them to allow to link up with Chad with minutes and not 10 years like pre social media. Give them the ability to never not have the sense of being alone even if they're just texting Chad all day and both people are many miles away.

Remember. The real top 20% guys fuck 80% of the women. Girl will not care if Chad has 20 other girls on the back burner, if a girl wants to fuck with a certain type of guy, she will and nothing going to stop her and there's nothing you can say about the situation

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You’re right, in a lot of aspects with your response. I do not however think you understand what I’m saying, and I’ll reiterate “EVERY man has the ability to climb to the top 5% in SMV”. That statement is nearly a fact when you take out severely disabled people and mentally challenged people from the equation.

There are a lot of factors that go into a male’s SMV: Looks (Where we are most limited, as you rightly pointed out), Game, Frame, Social Status (the most improbable factor), etc. You hit the nail on the head with the social media aspect where your girl next door can get high quality dick at a moments notice if she so chooses. You also hit the nail on the head with the DNA comment as that is ingrained primal drive from a female to get the best possible DNA (Again, thanks to social media her abilities to get high quality DNA have now skyrocketed). I whole heartily agree with you that these are huge limiting factors for your average male and it should be mandatory for any man who calls himself redpilled to maximize his potential physical attractiveness. Game and Frame are another talking point I don’t want to get into right now but are also mandatory IMO.

Social status is where any man has the potential to set himself apart (No, this isn’t a self help pep talk to low self esteem faggots who can’t get pussy, this is a fact). Best case scenario in terms of social status and recognition is a man of extreme wealth and power.

EVERY man has the POTENTIAL to acquire extreme wealth and extreme power.

A man with extreme wealth, power, and recognition can make up for horrible genetic flaws. If you take a man who has the looks of Danny Devito (worst case scenario for a man), and give him rock solid Frame and Game, but also give him this extreme power, recognition, and wealth, you will undisputedly have a man in the top 5% of men.

For the record I’m not a salty Incel or a desperate faggot looking for a way out of the red pill, I have lived these truths and see it all the time.

I have yet to see a man who never stood a chance at a successful life with women. (We can discuss the aspects of Alpha bucks Beta Bucks another time). No, you can never make up for your genetic flaws and there will always be someone who has better DNA one tap away on her smart phone, but there is almost always a way to win your game.

[–]theyearsstartcomin0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

And at the end of the day, you look great what you have to work with but there's going to be a hand full certain class of women that's just isn't into you.

If you're HV why do you care?

Stop being a fag. You're the catch, not her.

She's a thot? Great, one less woman to consider.

[–]Tacale-3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You on the other hand look like you may have swallowed too many pills

[–]Merica9111 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

So dumb.

[–]Vivek0001-1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy

Can you what CC and HVM stands for? I know LTR is long term relationship.

ps where do you guys learn these abbreviations, I keep seeing a lot of them in these subreddits.

[–]send_it_for_the_boys4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Cock carousel, high value man

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Read the damn sidebar

[–]Vivek00010 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

how to read side bars? I am on my smartphone. unable to see any such thing.

edit: do you mean the main page details?

edit2: thanks I got it.

[–]CainPrice19 points20 points  (4 children) | Copy

Instead of worrying about what women are doing, worry about what you can do.

If you look slightly above average and your game is good, you can join in on the casual sex game, too. You don't even have to be hot. Just a little above average. Keep your diet clean, work out, get your social skills up to bar, and learn game.

The only ones who don't get to play are ugly weirdos. The ugly weirdos are going to try to convince you that average guys don't have a chance and that women only fuck super-duper-ultra hot upper echelon men.

Don't fall for that bullshit. Average guys have dates, sex, and relationships. Most average guys end up married. Guys who try to tell you that only super-hot guys fuck are bottom-tier losers (ugly weirdos) who are trying to convince you, everyone else, and themselves that they're average. But they're not. They're losers.

[–]Imperator_Red1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Average guys don’t have much of a chance unless they improve themselves and become top 20%.

[–]diladusta0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Damn you are cold.

[–]CainPrice4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

One of the worst problems for men today is the internet.

It's given bottom-tier men a voice and the ability to congregate.

When bottom-tier men congregate and share experiences, it makes them feel more normal. It lets them believe that they're average and that many/most men are just like them. It lets them stop feeling like the losers that they are.

This has many consequences.

It makes them complacent so they don't improve themselves. They think they're normal and society is to blame. So the ones that might have become something more just wallow and fail at life.

It makes them entitled. They think that because they're normal and society has screwed them over, they are owed things. A few of them even go bat-shit crazy and shoot up public places.

They reflect on other men who are actually worth something. These guys are whiny, feminine, entitled, potentially dangerous, strange, creepy, and deluded. On top of being losers. And now that they're out and proud about it, larger parts of society think that "men" are whiny, feminine, entitled, potentially dangerous, strange, creepy, and deluded.

Bottom-tier losers used to live under rocks. They need to go back there.

[–]Gawernator6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy

The good news is it’s not that hard to be above average. If you take care of your diet and exercise and learn a good trade or job field you’re doing well above the rest

[–]ovrload-4 points-3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Cope you can’t fix your shit genetics. Example being you can’t grow if you’re short

[–]jm512 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

you can’t grow if you’re short

Plenty of short guys have done well.

Work at developing whatever talents you have. When those talents are good enough to impress, people won't care about your height.

Dudley Moore was a shortarse that had women lining up for him. Even before he got famous.

[–]ovrload-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just be a clown bro! Meanwhile 6’4 chad comes around does nothing to attract women and still gets attention just by his looks and height alone.

Sure, if you’re good looking it may work out, anything else is just being a beta provider or becoming her personal jester.

[–]Gawernator2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’m average height, just under 5’10”. Never stopped me. Tom cruise is short af, so is joe rogan. Etc

[–]mrpoopistan12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'll disagree here.

They'll settle down when they feel they've maxed out their optimization. Remember, there's a two-point rule for SMV (a 6 can't really do better than an 8 and wouldn't humor below a 4). What everyone is really looking for is someone who breaks the two-point rule because (fear/weakness/upbringing). In other words, the ideal is a mate who's too hot for you, but they've made repeated demonstrations of loyalty. (The 6 wants an 8.5 who can't help themself.)

If that sounds crazy, then congratulate yourself because you've figured out the source of the problem.

[–]wawakaka4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

they will fuck average guys too but will ghost cause they are chad widows.

[–]ovrload1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Average guys need to provide more for a chance to get sloppy seconds JFL

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[–]inkoDe4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Like men, women will fuck what they can at the time when they feel like fucking. Women don't break out spreadsheets and software and shit. If you are charming and nice she might just settle on your toad ass.

[–]mikkeldaman4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Unless you are sixteen hooking up with a girl about the same age in your high school, you're pretty much going to get someone's sloppy second. Of course in some religious circles you might be lucky enough to find an older virgin but honestly, I'd rather play my luck at the slot machines.

[–]hibloodstevia4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Worse, every woman comes pre-alpha widowed just for you!

This is the future for anybody who is not in the top 1% of all men, every woman you fuck will have fucked somebody better than you, and they'll be comparing you against that guy.

There won't be any non whores, anywhere.

Your average good girl will be exactly the same as the trailer park trash of 1980.

[–]inkoDe2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

Have to add a second comment, i am pretty high and missed a big part of what you were asking. The notion of sloppy seconds will fuck your sexuality up for the rest of your life. The best sex is with someone with practice.

[–]omawolfmusic0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Facts but I think OP is referring to potential LTRs or marriage if he wanted one in the future. Having to settle down with a woman whose N count is high is not appealing.

[–]inkoDe0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

The fact is trp is about increasing his n-count, if you are a guy that has slept with 30 women it isn't realistic you are going to be able to easily make a relationship with a woman that has slept with 2.

[–]Greek-God-Brody1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

TRP is about increasing the n-count because the game is rigged, and if it's rigged, might as well play along and profit. Also, for a guy , having a lot of experience with women, will give him a lot of advantages with a potential LTR.

Your dream woman will thank you / benefit from you learning game.

[–]inkoDe0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Saying the rules of the game is kinda narcissistic in the first place, says in effect first you have the authority to draw the rules of a game of life to begin with, and second othrrs should somehow contort their will to these principles you have made up, projecting outward. All us "bros" have no problems forming relationships or getting laid, what is going on here is something else entirely.

[–]mortalcoil12 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

P.S. Unless you find a virgin (lol) Every woman is someon's sloppy seconds, or thirds, or fourths.... or fifty-sixths, or one hundred and ninety-seconds, but it's okay, because the next guy will be your one hundred and ninety-thirds.

Women have sex. Men have sex. Are you complaining that the women you meet aren't virgins?

Also, plenty of women get married before they hit The Wall, and yes, it's even possible to marry a virgin. My sister and her husband were deeply religious and didn't have sex until they were married, and no, they weren't lying. Obviously that's the exception to the rule, but it happens.

Too many women are in fact alpha widows that have a very high N count who will then try to beta bucks some loser in their high 20's/late 30's, but this isn't always the case.

but none of that should be important to you. Getting angry at women for having sex will not accomplish anything. What is important is to be able to tell a woman who is LTR material apart from a woman who is pump and dump material.

[–]Hungboy69694206 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

What even is sloppy seconds ? If you want virgins exclusively, seek help. For real tho, I know what ya mean. Don't view them as leftovers just view the relationship as temporary

[–]muricanwerewolf15 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Not necessarily. Keep reading.

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[–]boywonder2005 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

You're boiling down a complex issue into one sentence. Its like trying to discuss a woman's hypergamy and the sexual marketplace and you say, "All women are sluts, right?". Read more.

[–]Lateralanouncer4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Firstly woman don’t fuck men. They get fucked by men. Secondly. Yes that is how trp c it. What I am seeing is the first lot of the cc riders are hitting the wall now. By thirty. They are no longer monogamous. Have high mileage and still have sex value. Post wall Can have a monogamous relationship for only 2-4 years and as all round alphas have options with younger woman they are opening there legs to younger men.

[–]minbooz1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

They don’t necessarily have to be attractive, they can also be rich

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[–]PUA_Fan1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Unless youre a manlet lmao

[–]Zanford1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy


So you better remember the first two rules.

The only exception to this is societies where men avoid wifing up women who already banged a bunch other dudes.

Spoiler alert: you are not in such a society.

[–]Terdmuffin1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

No if youre just an average dude surely you'll get 10/10 Virgin unicorns.

[–]TRPGaveMeLife1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You’re missing one important thing - look at the other guys. EVERYONE is such a fucking loser.

If you lift, have discipline and invest in yourself you stick out like a sore thumb in this giant fucking ocean of muscleless, charismaless, ability-less, alphaless, frameless, soy-latte popping, inverse males with no prospects and no ambition.

Believe in yourself, everyone else is a cuck.

[–]mikalepkoslika-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oh come on please with your copes. Everybody and his brother Robert lift today and wear fancy clothes, know all the fancy PUA schemes and pretend to be John Travolta and Elon Musk in one person. Your competition is unbelievably strong. Under 185 cm of height, over 8 % of BF, without a good car, extroverted dominating personality - your chances are miserable.

[–]RevolutionRose0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The bus analogy is always true, it's just your turn for the ride

[–]PolesWithGoals0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Basically they can settle down whenever their carfax reaches multiple owners, high mileage, etc.

[–]DDD50_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Nope, women will not settle down when they hit the wall. They will merely give the appearance of it.

[–]Nergaal0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

you are missing the point if that is all you got. the PUA version of it is about that, but TRP is much more than PUA

[–]Infernir0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You're assuming the most 'attractive'/highest smv guy to them wants to fuck them. Or can even fuck more than one women at a time.

Threesomes are damn rare, especially with plates and fwbs. If you think these type of girls only have 1 sexual partner. YOU'RE IN FOR A RUDE AWAKENING. Throughout all my experience i've found the opposite to be true, but you should never give a shit about what women do ever. Unless it's a LTR. But especially with any women you're not in an actual relationship with. They tend to get around, especially if they're sexy.

The scary and important thing about hypergamy is if you and some sexy girl meet and not long after she also meets another guy... and deems him higher SMV. That other guy is gonna see a lot more sex, affection, and being down to do things with her. Assuming he wants her too hypergamy is now in play, he has to fuck up for you to get a better chance.

[–]Domebeers0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Naw man. Relax and don't jump off a bridge because you aren't 7'4.

Have you actually ever seen a picture of Styles or Mystery?

[–]mikalepkoslika2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

There was no Tinder ten or fifteen years ago. Today’s smp is something totally different.

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

yes and that is the best summary I've seen in a long time. directly on the money my friend.

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[–]Tacale1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You look like you have the whole world figured out.

[–]mikalepkoslika1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Unfortunately, I really do look like a Russian rocket scientist. You can land a Sputnik on my forehead, although I am only sort of Norwood 2 bald in the worst case.

[–]alphakari0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Regular looking

incorrect. girls ain't as visual as us. it matters and makes it easier, and is one of the most basic things you can work on while also being retarded, but it isn't the end all be all.

girls only care about how someone makes them feel. literally nothing else matters to them until they have children.

[–]jm511 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

girls ain't as visual as us

Some PUAs I've known were hit with the ugly stick. They did ok. Some were short as well as ugly.

[–]vondoom900-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Girls are 79% more visual. Or 89% or 75%


  • pick any study from the last 30 years. *

[–]mikalepkoslika-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy

And that explains the OKCupid experiment. They can feel the Chad’s superior personality, his good soul and cool sense of humor by feeling his vibrations through the web. How delusional are you?!? Without superior looks in your prime you are invisible in the smp for the roasties in their prime. You are allowed to be the betabux later. Isn’t the life just beautiful?

[–]alphakari0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Learn how to read.

[–]mikalepkoslika0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Au contraire. Do not write beta shit.

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[–]mikalepkoslika0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

If you do not work for money, you are either a rich heir or an idiot. There is nothing „alpha“ in being poor.

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[–]jm511 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Most of you underplay the role of genetically superior looks in the modern time.

imo, Jonah Hill is a 'genetically inferior' alpha. Sure he gets to play a beta on screen, that's his gig. irl, he changes his arm candy with the seasons and afaik, no bad mouthing from any of his exes. Unlike what has happened to some good looking actors.

[–]mikalepkoslika0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The movies are one thing. The beta looking males are getting imprisoned for acting alpha in the 2020. real brave new world.

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[–]mikalepkoslika0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You wrote literally that it’s an alpha behavior not to care about the money when working and that alpha male tingles are more important. Muh self fulfilling muh feelings. What are you? A woman?

[–]IXseed-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

You can be regular looking and still be attractive to women

Women will "settle down" when their looks can't get them the guys they desire, yes. But understand she will ALWAYS be looking for that guy she really wants regardless if she's attached to a beta. Bitches be out here cheating on their dudes like it's nothing.

If you wanna call that a win, getting a girl that's past her prime and will leave you on the next thing smoking, be my guest.

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[–]whirling_cynic4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Get ready to be disappointed.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

No. This is incel content.

[–]mikalepkoslika0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

No, it’s the reality. Red pill is about accepting the reality. We’re in 2020, not in 2005. Very soon we’ll have over 40 % young men in their prime not having sex. Not because they aren’t „lifting“ or „improving“, but because they do not have the sufficient genetics to compete at all.

[–]vondoom9002 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

There is truth to this. The statistics are drawn up from trillions of interactions and results.

I think it'll eventually end up like Holland. Where the men are all 6ft tall average and just visit brothels because it's easier than gaming for sex. Speaking from experience with that - banged some guys wife who was a 9 because he just went to a brothels all the time.

[–]mikalepkoslika0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yup, the Dutchcels and the Germancels can visit a whorehouse at least with no worries. Lifefuel for them Foreigncels.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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