Dark triad traits are best used in elevating the SMV/fuck appeal of otherwise attractive but passive/dopey guys who would be decent husband material ONLY without it. Brads, basically. Dark Triad is good for decent looking Brads with flat personality but FUNCTIONAL social awareness. It is a bad, counterproductive place to BEGIN for manosphere newbies, anger phasers, “low value men” etc.

Why? Dark Triad traits on attractive men suggest “so used to getting his way this is how he behaves.” On non-attractive men it suggests “creep with no social awareness who probably has severed heads in his freezer.” Who is attractive vs not? Well obviously the hot guy is, but the end answer is “the one who has made his egoism hot and INVITING.” The appeal is “come to my world where everything is easy and fun bc i make it that way.” If you’re just being as ass, there’s no “pull.”

Is that “fair?” If you’re even asking, you have no business trying to act like a harsh DT badboy. There IS a reverse halo effect at work here; the purpose of “game” is REMOVING that reverse halo. Less attractive men Will do that by FIRST disarming her skepticism and showing what an easygoing and fun guy you are who totally doesn’t just see her as a brainless hole like all the stupid whores since seventh grade who... oh. Shit was trying to be stoic there.

Again worth mentioning this even presumes men CAN successfully serve a “dastardly dark triad winner” mood and not a “hateful nerd externalizing a lifetime of rejection” mood. And yes this is correlated with halo effect but NOT entirely explained by it. It’s also above the pay grade for non-neurotypical men starting from zero.

(Because YES, that is how many women see less attractive men: as hazardous repositories for all the masculine shame and self loathing their indifference engenders without wanting to or caring).

But All Women Like Dark Triad Stuff; look at these studies! I am not disputing that, tho you SHOULD consider that dark triad men tend to value “slaying pussy” more than nice family men, so it would be concerning if they DIDN’T outfuck them; their outfucking is as much proof of their nature as women’s sexuality. But It’s all moot, because I am disputing that low success men on the internet can replicate what women perceive as dark triad cockiness.

What Should They Do Instead? Those men should start by cultivating “good vibes” in social interactions with women NOT because it is nicer but because it will get them on the sex track faster than acting like a douchebag. Having conversations where women leave smiling. Hell, being able to get rejected QUICKLY and moving on with your dignity intact to go flirt elsewhere. Basically, like many things manospherian, dark triad promises a big bad redpilling but ends up MINIMIZING the work men need to do by making it simple. (“Just be an asshole bro”)

But that Sounds Lame and Vulnerable and Hard. I just want the sex!!! Exactly. The easy promise of dark triad assholery is that you can channel the momentum of the resentment you have for women and use it to seduce them by being an asshole. This is appealing for men who don’t want to grow emotionally, but it isn’t a good path. Men who fail with women consistently are likely overestimating their ability to keep that vibe under wraps and hurting themselves.

They should instead SHELVE the cocky asshole act until they are more successful in actually having relationships. Once that has happened, they might notice a surfeit of success and start using Dark Triad type behavior to seal the deal with a woman, juggle more than one, or keep one on the hook for a while longer. NOT to start from square one in building basic inter gender communication skills.