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Throw in the towel, or a life raft?

by redpillruminations | January 13, 2020 | askMRP

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28, 125lb, 5'3", 5x5, squat 205, bench 125, OHP 95,row 125, dead 220

Read: MMSLP, NMMNG, WISNIFG, SGM, 6 pillars of self-esteem, currently book of pook

Been working MRP for about a year. Seeing physical gains. Lost 50lb. T is low 300s and I'm making an appointment to fix this. The gym has created confidence in myself. My small frame presents issues (physical and mental) that I'm learning how to deal with.

Anger stage hit hard and lasted for months. The info here is amazing once you "get it" but was hard to break my initial programming (career beta). Took time to marinade. I got into hobbies, and get out of the house 2-3 nights a week.

It seems that the more progress I make, the more my wife resents me. She likes me less, seems less attracted. The shit tests are bitchy and often shitty/comfort. I pass (A&A, AM, kiss on the head, short hug, STFU) but a lot of themes are recurring each time. I see her giving others her best, but it's never given to me. I've been testing out upping baseline comfort but can't shake the feeling that I'm rewarding bad behavior.

I want to know when to throw in the towel, or to send a life raft. I haven't spoken my mission into existence, so I wonder if that's a missing piece. There's no common thread pulling us forward. The tow rope doesn't seem to be tightening, I just see her getting smaller in the distance. I am working on my daily leadership, as that seems to be the next stepping stone to progress (giving her jobs, planning daily activities).

Am I just a dancing monkey that's not getting the reaction I desire? It seems like at this point, I should be seeing some progress from her in one way or another.

Abundance is an issue for me, which I'm actively battling. I'm becoming more comfortable chatting up strangers and I know that with more practice, I can succeed here. I had oneitus for years, but the farther I get into this, the less value I see her bringing to my life. I just care less and less about her as I focus more and more on my mission. She seems to care less too.

I'm a valuable man (finding and believing in my own value again). I am willing to walk away if that's what it takes to live in congruence with who I am.

Consider this my entrance. See you in OYS.


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Title Throw in the towel, or a life raft?
Author redpillruminations
Upvotes 18
Comments 79
Date 13 January 2020 02:36 PM UTC (6 months ago)
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[–]MrChad_ThundercockBig Red Machine51 points52 points  (6 children) | Copy

“ I see her giving others her best, but it's never given to me.”

You aren’t the Prize. Faggots don’t get her best, they her worse tm . Women are programmed to reward their Prize with sex.

Are you getting that? When is the last time You got a great unsolicited blow job? Powerful men get great blow jobs. Not fag boys with self esteem issues.

“seems that the more progress I make, the more my wife resents me“

She resents you because you've been a faggot the entire marriage.

Your wife will work overtime to keep you Betarized. Women have a dual mating strategy - unfortunately, you were part of the second one- beta bucks. You sound like a nice guy. She found her provider (you). You’re probably responsible, go to work, Contribute to your 401k, pay for vacations and shopping sprees, come home immediately after work on time everyday. Nice little provider boy.

She doesn’t want you improving and calling the shots. She needs the status quo to remain the same - you providing all the resources ($) to her. If you improve and increase your SMV, other women might start to find you attractive. She can’t risk that. That’s why the intensity of the shit tests and bitchy ness will increase ten fold.

She can’t have you walking around everyday feeling confident and self assured.. fuck no., she needs you beat down, trapped in your own head, and to keep you unattractive as possible so no other woman would want to fuck you. She doesn’t give a fuck about you or your wel being... she only cares about herself and how you make her feelz.

How long have you been married? Only been at this for a year? Took me 2 1/2 years to get where I needed to be-after a decade of dead bedroom situation.

Shut the fuck up soldier.

[–]redpillruminations[S] 13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

Been married 4 years. The last time I got an unsolicited BJ... What's an unsolicited BJ?

[–]wheremyballsgo7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

When she tells you to lay down as she's putting her hair up with a hair tie. Then crawls in the bed between your legs and sucks your dick to completion.

[–]FoxShitNasty834 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

She can’t have you walking around everyday feeling confident and self assured.. fuck no., she needs you beat down, trapped in your own head, and to keep you unattractive as possible so no other woman would want to fuck you. She doesn’t give a fuck about you or your wel being... she only cares about herself and how you make her feelz.

Solid gut punch

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good to see you back here giving solid advice MCT.

she needs you beat down, trapped in your own head, and to keep you unattractive as possible so no other woman would want to fuck you.

OP's wife has succeeded at this despite anything he says.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

/u/mrchad_thundercock

I’m wish I could upvote your comment to the top. Can of whoop ass, but so many helpful RP truths

Edit: looks like the cream rises to the top anyway

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret9 points10 points  (9 children) | Copy

Am I just a dancing monkey that's not getting the reaction I desire? It seems like at this point, I should be seeing some progress from her in one way or another.

You've answered your own question by asking this.

Consider this my entrance. See you in OYS.

If you would have started OYS a year ago instead of fucking around like a retard this would have been clear to you a long time ago and you would have made much more progress.

Your woman sees right through your bullshit. No wonder the distance is growing. She doesn't like faggots.

[–]redpillruminations[S] 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy

You're probably right, I could have gained a lot by posting throughout the last year.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando6 points7 points  (6 children) | Copy

No "probably" about it. If you post in OYS, someone will see your blind spots.

If you're lucky, they'll tell you.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

Except 8 months ago OP did post in OYS... once! Then quit. So, did OP just half-ass it like everything else he does or did he let his ego (apparent in the post here) get in the way?

Probably both if I had to guess.

Take a wild guess what the advice was.

[–]redpillruminations[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

I wanted to be alone with the ideas for a while. Took them as far as I could, now see the benefit of the locker room.

[–]Cloudy_Pirate1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

> I wanted to be alone with the ideas for a while

Stop ruminating. Start doing.

https://psychcentral.com/blog/why-ruminating-is-unhealthy-and-how-to-stop/

[–]hack3geRed Beret1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Nope you were a scared ass faggot who didn’t want the guys here exposing the truth about you - it’s the same story all the time.

You knew you were being a faggot and didn’t want us to tell you just how much of a faggot you were actually being.

First off your lifts and weight don’t even compute - you are a skinny fat faggot who needs some muscle. You are short and so it’s going to be even more important to be jacked - I’m 5’8” and at about 190 I started having a bigger presence.

Second - of course your wife isn’t going to be happy with your behavior who said any of this is for her? You need to read the post by Rian Stone called “What did you think she was going to do?” (https://rianstonept.blogspot.com/2016/07/what-did-you-think-she-was-going-to-do.html?m=1)

My wife went fucking psychotic for like 9 months - hated me, said she couldn’t live like this, was leaving me, tried to actually kill me at one point - you haven’t seen the half of what a woman is capable of. Fast forward to now and we fuck multiple times a day, I get BJs to completion whenever I want, she begs me to fuck her ass and on top of all that I do whatever the fuck I want when I want because she is irrelevant to me and she loves it.

[–]redpillruminations[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Maybe you're right. I was hoping to avoid some of the noob mistakes, but I didn't. Thanks for the link.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Username checks out.

[–]ArborioRice0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You read at least one book

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando8 points9 points  (27 children) | Copy

The info here is amazing once you "get it"

It is. It's just a pity you still don't get it.

Here's what you've done in the last year:

- lifted a little bit ;

- talked to a couple of randos;

- created some artificial dread (aka. Beta Dread Games) by leaving the house a few evenings a week, and;

- read up on a few RP principles and sprinkled them over your life in the hope that your wife would spread her legs wider.

You haven't internalised anything. You haven't learned to be your own judge. And - despite what you think - you haven't become a man of high value.

If you truly believed that you were a HVM - and that you had to kick her to the kerb in order to live in congruence with who you are - you would have done it by now and you wouldn't be here seeking approval from the forum.

You came here in the hope that your wife would fuck you more often. Everything you do is an effort to get your wife to fuck you more often. And now you're wondering why you're left standing there, with your dick in your hand and no-one to suck it for you.

Poor lil' Monkey Boy.

[–]redpillruminations[S] 1 point2 points  (20 children) | Copy

My question is how can I move on from dancing? I am working the program autistically, are there obvious next steps to being more natural? It's true that I started trying to get my wife to fuck me. She isn't. I'm still steadfast on working on me.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

My question is how can I move on from dancing?

Stop dancing. Quit looking over your shoulder to see how she reacts to what you do. Don't judge your success by the quantity or quality of sex you may or may not be getting from her.

Then work on becoming the man YOU want to be. Not the man you think that she - or any other woman - might want you to be.

Decide what it is that you want in life. Make a plan. Then execute it.

[–]AlohaMaui8081 point2 points  (11 children) | Copy

It's true that I started trying to get my wife to fuck me. She isn't.

I'm still steadfast on working on me.

robot voice: does not com-pute

You are still steadfast on working on getting her to fuck you. Your motivation hasn't shifted to doing it for you at all.

My question is how can I move on from dancing?

So really your question is, how can you get yourself to move on from sex being your mission? Or is it worse than that, is it,

How can you get yourself to move on from sex with her being your mission?

Are you still using porn and masturbation to tide you over while she isn't having sex with you? If so, I'd try cutting off those crutches to start.

Have you had a consultation with a lawyer, and found out how your life would look after divorce? Have you accepted that as a legitimate option and as a viable possibility for your future? One that you aren't afraid to implement at any time if you needed to?

Let's start with just those two things. Answer those two questions truthfully, first, and let's go from there.

[–]redpillruminations[S] 1 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy

Quit porn. Haven't met with lawyer.

[–]AlohaMaui8081 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy

Have you quit masturbation?

Make an appointment with a local divorce lawyer. Bring your financial info he will need, like individual and joint bank statements. The goal here is, find out what the outlook for divorce is in your state, can you get raped, is it a no-fault state (as in cheating won't be held against you) in point of fact or in name only (some states are no-fault but judges are still known to be biased based on infidelity) if you have kids, what would your child support look like, what would alimony look like, if any.

Once you find that all (and more!) out, it becomes much easier to accept that life without "her" exists, it can work, hell could even be good, and then the stay plan can really become the go plan because you know what you want each possibility to look like, and can work towards that outcome. (Its the same picture of a changed MRP you, just whether she fits in it anymore or not that makes the difference, and you don't control that, at all. She will make her own choices and once she does, you will choose for her to stay or go. Most guys make the mistake that "stay plan vs go plan" is for THEM to stay or go - isnt it your house? Didn't you pay for it? In nearly all cases, she's the one that's got to go, not you.)

[–]redpillruminations[S] 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy

I jerk off once every couple weeks, or if I get blue ball pain. I found a lawyer to meet with a month ago. I'll make an appointment (is first consultation free?) Think it would be a pretty simple deal given we don't have kids. House has a small amount of equity at this point. Dogs would be the main issue. I put up down payment out of my personal account so I might have claim there. Wife makes 2x my salary fwiw

[–]AlohaMaui8080 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

You have multiple sessions/orgasms or just one time?

First consultation (with a lawyer you'd actually want this info from) will not be free. Couple hundred, usually between 200-300. Worth it, and will also conflict them out (they can't represent your wife later) even if you decide not to use them, wife won't be able to either. So at least it has dual purpose.

[–]redpillruminations[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

One and done. Used to bang out a few a day. No desire at this point. Thanks for the info. I'll meet someone and talk about it.

[–]AlohaMaui8080 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Remember to take the follow up step of mentally simulating what the basics of your go plan life would look like post divorce. That's the most important part, to use the info you get from the consult, not just sit on it. I'd also check if your state allows uncontested divorce, where you and wife can do the process without a lawyer if all parts and pieces are agreed upon. My state has it, makes the whole process cost less than $1k in court and lawyer fees. Something to consider. You can always lawyer up if you can't work out the details and it becomes obvious it would be contested.

If that is an option, prep the required paperwork ahead of time, make your offer truly fair, or even a bit better than fair (for example a 50/50 split on house equity) and just have it stored somewhere she can't get it and others can't see. Update it when circumstances change.

[–]redpillruminations[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

I like the idea. Lotta horror stories on here but I think a 50/50 split is most likely (if it's a legal option). Just not that much to fight over. I'll look into that too. I've thought about my go plan. Part of me wants the house and part of me would sign it away for a new life in a new place. Leaning toward option 2, but I love my dogs. Edit: yes it's a few hundred dollars for uncontested in my state

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

Just quit being a faggot and start doing OYS posts. Someone already told you that, but you want an instant cure. It doesn’t work that way

[–]redpillruminations[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

I went the opposite way. 8 months of deep thought isn't an instant cure. Probably equally as unhelpful though.

[–]ImNotSlash1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Here's the thing though, taking that time for deep thought only helps if you understand what it is you are thinking about. Your post demonstrates clearly you don't.

OYS can be a guide to keep you on path. Wander in the proper direction and you may go unnoticed. Stray afar and quite likely get called a faggot and then-some.

It is your responsibility to put in the work. Your lifts strongly suggest you have not. That's fine. But I nor few others here will waste their time on you if you continue to demonstrate lack of desire. You're going to fuck up along the way. Again, that's fine as long as you learn from your mistakes. Having "deep thoughts" will not expose those mistakes. Not at this stage. Not for you. Not yet.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

OYS can be a guide to keep you on path

The biggest benefit I found doing OYS is simply seeing my own BS in writing. Do it weekly, and you start to be less of a faggot because you have more awareness of your pitfalls

[–]ImNotSlash0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Long as you know what the pitfalls are, yes. I was going to do a sky diving analogy: you wouldn't pack your own chute based on a couple books and forum posts you read. Some of this shit's just harder to click. Those "aha" moments are what I looked for.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’d agree with that. The “aha” moments should come naturally if a person is doing the required work- lifting, read and reread the entire sidebar, and more importantly practice material from the sidebar. Everything is just a theory until it gets put into practice.

There was a guy who heard about a cow? And how they make delicious milk. So, he went out and found the exact description of a cow, saw the milk and drank it. He died . What he thought was a cow was a statue of a cow, and it was dripping white paint. He drank the paint thinking it was milk.

The point is RP should be taken slowly and with discrimination. If done that way, you won’t drink paint and die.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You have to take action. Practice STFU, lift, work on frame, hobbies, read the ENTIRE sidebar, OYS... etc

[–]RoccoPinkman0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

He was going to be a HVM but.........(insert excuse)

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

He was going to be a HVM but went to HMV instead.

[–]RoccoPinkman0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Went to buy his wife a Marvin Gaye CD to see if it would get her in the mood.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Marvin always gets me in the mood.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Someone's been reading their pickup manuals.

[–]RoccoPinkman2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Never fails, 30 seconds in, she’s wetter than. Otters pocket

[–]ImNotSlash4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

The tow rope doesn't seem to be tightening

Because

The info here is amazing ... Took time to marinade

You're walking. Which is fine. Set your own pace. But, all this...

It seems that the more progress I make, the more my wife resents me. She likes me less, seems less attracted. The shit tests are bitchy and often shitty/comfort. I pass (A&A, AM, kiss on the head, short hug, STFU) but a lot of themes are recurring each time. I see her giving others her best, but it's never given to me.

Its delaying you. You're quantifying your results with something you can't and don't control. So, stop.

Keep lifting. Do your hobbies. Perfect deflecting the shit tests. And stay focused. Forget about the rope. Maybe one day you'll realize it's nice and taught. But today you're nowhere close.

[–]SubjectiveCompass2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Its delaying you. You're quantifying your results with something you can't and don't control. So, stop.

Re-read this, it's a lesson that took me too long to learn. I think this is a common pitfall of early progress.

[–]redpillruminations[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Don't look back. Got it. You're right, I'm nowhere close. Need to get on the path and keep pushing.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No. He's saying that you are quantifying your results based on your wife's reaction. That's the thing you don't control.

You're supposed to be doing this for you, not to change someone else's behavior.

[–]gameoflibidos1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You say you read NMMNG... but you must just be missing the fact that your entire post is one big covert contract. You are doing all this it seems for the sole purpose of her reaction and validating you and your changes. So you get angry and depressed when it's not going the way you expected or wanted. She's over there having no idea that you're doing any of this or why you might be having such emotions. So all she smells is depressed angry faggot.

Work on YOU for YOU. Repeat that simple sentence to yourself every time you find yourself slipping into "why isn't she getting on board and noticing how great I'm getting" mode. Only when you finally cut that cord and it becomes part of your psyche will real change start. Women spot emotion like bloodhounds... you can try to hide it but you can't.. she smells your disappointment, anger and bitterness from miles away. She'll see right through your poker face and smell that inner faggot inside clear as day. That's why STFU is good, but not the end all be all.. it's just a beginning step to stop the arguing. It's better to STFU than argue with the oldest teenager in the house. It takes a lot of time to graduate from STFU to I truly DGAF. Only when you truly believe that you are only doing this for YOU and she can come along if she wants or not.. you don't really give a fuck will then she realize something has changed.

[–]redpillruminations[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

"I work on ME for ME." That's my new mantra. I need to burn it in, because I am worse than a depressed angry faggot, I'm an entitled one. Thank you. You're spot on with everything here. I opened NMMNG again this morning and started again. Doing the goddamn breakouts this time. The first time around planted a seed but my bitterness and anger wouldn't let it grow. My whole life has become a giant covert contract, I let my ego fuel.

[–]0io-Tsundere2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

I'd get the T fixed first (you want it over 800) and then see how the next year goes. If you can get pretty jacked that should help a lot. It's hard to make any of this stuff work with low-T, and the anger phase is generally pretty unattractive for everybody. Also remember that you want to be fun to be around. Your wife shouldn't feel like you're "punishing her" or anything like that.

It sounds like you're still looking to her for validation, but you're not where you need to be yet.

Once you have the T fixed for a year or so and you're looking like a swimwear model with your shirt off if there's still no interest or attraction from the wife and you're not obviously on a much better course (as a couple), then it would be time to part ways. Right now you've lost a lot of weight, which is a great start, but it doesn't make you super-attractive.

Getting the T fixed might be a real game-changer for you, especially if it has been low for a while. In the meantime, I wouldn't have kids until everything is obviously sorted out and going in the right direction for a few years.

You need for her friends to be saying things like "OMG your husband is in such great shape, oh la la..." before it really starts to kick in for her. Women need to be grabbing your arms, pulling you in tight for hugs, stuff like that. It's a long path.

[–]redpillruminations[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I'm looking forward to starting TRT.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

300-400 is not a bad level if you've been on a permanent cut. Before jumping into full blown lifelong TRT I would suggest actually putting in some fucking work with bulking and lifting.

I'm not against TRT. I'm against using TRT as a shortcut magic pill like you're doing with everything else.

Edit: I changed my mind. You're a 5'3 manlet that won't lift. Go ahead. You're fucked.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Before jumping into full blown lifelong TRT

That is like turning down getting your ass ate on Date 1.

Fucking big rock could fall out of the sky and kill us all at any time.

Dont fucking wait for shit.

Now, the time is now.

[–]Red_Beards1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Am I just a dancing monkey that's not getting the reaction I desire?

Yep.

I want to know when to throw in the towel, or to send a life raft.

You want a bunch of internet strangers to tell you when to kill the puppy? You should know this your own damn self. That said, I don't know shit about you, but I'm pretty comfortable telling you that you aren't anywhere near ready for this.

[–]redwall921 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Towel or life raft ... whew. Tough choice, bro.

I found RP at 38. So ... maybe give yourself another 10 years ... then you'll have progressed to making decisions on your own.

[–]RoccoPinkman4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Tampon

[–]JudgeDoom691 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Right now your MAP is just a huge covert contract to try to get your wife to become attracted to you.

You need to work on developing Outcome Indifference. You are on your own mission of becoming an Alpha Male, someone who is physically fit, attractive and owns his shit.

Quit worrying about her reaction.

[–]RoccoPinkman1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

My small frame presents issues (physical and mental) that I'm learning how to deal with

My 12yo daughter can lift more weight than you, you were fat and now your not, you should have way more muscle, what exactly have you been doing in the gym for a year? CrossFit?

You must be doing great, it’s taken you 339 days to make this one shitty post. Do you have any tips?

[–]NeoTheJuanDJ0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Yes. Daily tear-stained hand-written poems, a bouquet of roses on her desk in front of her coworkers with a copy of Marvin Gaye’s greatest hits, buy her and her friend Chad a car, constant emotional vomiting and communicating your vulnerability to her.. just wait until you’re in bed to do that, don’t forget to tell her how much you love her while crying, and staring her in the eyes so she really gets it, daily, and then set shared accounts for everything with no prenup. 3’7’’ 97lbs 27% bf MRP for 3 hours and came here from deadbedrooms, and do t know what lifts are. But my p90x is working. Thanks guys.

[–]RoccoPinkman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So that’s where I’ve been fucking up!

[–]Cloudy_Pirate1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

OYS #1 “Tear Me Up, Boys, I’m ready” (April 30, 2019)

27M, married 3 years, 2 dogs, 5’4”, 133lb (start: 160, goal: lean 125)

OHP: 75, squat: 140, bench: 80, dead: 140, row: 80

Today - 13 Jan 2020

28, 125lb, 5'3",

5x5, squat 205, bench 125, OHP 95,row 125, dead 220

You started off small and somehow managed to get even smaller in the 8 months you've been here.

WTF dude.

You need a reality check.

Before you decide to "throw in the towel", let's take a took at how you are doing vs this list of ways to fail at MRP

  1. You don’t lift hard enough - check. Your lifts are improving but still suck.
  2. You mistake your idea of a real man for being alpha - not enough info for me here
  3. You listen to your wife - check
  4. You’re upset your wife is angry - check
  5. You think your wife is a puzzle you have to solve - check
  6. You’re angry at how women are - check
  7. You go rambo - check
  8. You won’t play dread - check
  9. You half-ass it " Some guys waste months twiddling their thumbs, working out a bit, trying to be funny, then wonder why it isn’t working." Check, check, check. ok - the his name is Alex Anderson thing actually was funny as shit. you get 1 bonus point.
  10. You don’t switch into dominance and boundary enforcement - you aren't far enough along to fail at this one yet.

[–]weakandsensitive0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

How do other women feel about you?

[–]redpillruminations[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I get some interest from girls at work. I can hold conversation and be charming. Get smiles when I walk around. I don't have women dropping me numbers in the wild and know I have a lot of work to do in cold approach. Recently been to some parties though, chatting it up with other women, making them laugh, and my wife will grab my arm, hug or kiss me. About the only time it happens.

[–]AlohaMaui8080 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

The fact that all she thinks it takes from her is a hug or peck on the cheek to mate Guard you really says it all, don't you think?

Most guys who ask questions, will have side anecdotes about how that one time they flirted with a girl around the wife, and she fucked their brains out that night. So they think they're making progress and doing well. They find out they're wrong too, but you, she doesn't even think you merit the dread-fucking.

Doesn't that tell you where you're really at?

Stop making excuses about posting OYS. Do it every week, religiously. If you're such a deep thinker, you should have plenty to talk about, every. fucking. week.

If you're still doing it a month from now, maybe I'll think you're actually serious and talk to you again.

Edit: how in the holy fuck have you been doing this for nearly a YEAR and that's all you've read?!?! I've been doing this for barely 4 months and I've read twice as much as you. You're dipping your toe in the pool of MRP. jump in or fuck off, faggot.

[–]redpillruminations[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This one hit home. Thanks.

[–]Big_Daddy_PDX0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You’re barely capable of making a decision about posting in OYS, you’re in no position to pull the top cord on your marriage. You haven’t learned anything. No wonder your wife is not on board.

[–]wtr6650 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

"Am I just a dancing monkey that's not getting the reaction I desire? " You don't dance for her, you dance for you.

It seems counter intuitive but if you change you get tested more. That's what you are experiencing. Please live the IDGAF life, and don't care about her until she gives what you want. And please don't let that what you want be strong affection (signs for approval) or huge sexual drift (kills affection).

[–]Toowhammy0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

There a big difference and a lot of time between filing for divorce or separation and actually getting divorced. Filing for divorce, telling her why, and focusing on Improving yourself Will be the best thing you can do for your marriage.

[–]redpillruminations[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I'll bite. What would be the benefit to actively starting the divorce process vs. quietly improving?

[–]Toowhammy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Read your third paragraph. File, tell her why, improve yourself, find your own life, let her chase you.

[–]rightsided0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Like the analogy implies, she will either join you as co-captain or you/she will severe the tie.

As to when, you decide. If you're miserable, the sooner the better. If you know she was better before, and can be better in the near future, keep working on yourself and her.

Ofc she puts on a façade, all women do. Have you put time into seducing her? Just kino and kisses on the forehead are not enough. Do something exciting and be daring. Sounds like you're doing all the right things for yourself, but what about her? Engage her emotions, as well.

Nice gains, btw.

[–]Rifleshoot0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Your lifts are tiny and you weigh practically nothing. Put on some muscle before you start looking at your wife. You say you lost 50 pounds. Great, you lost a lot of fat. But now you are tiny and weak. You need to put on muscle. The first inclination that most men have, myself included, is to blame your wife. Don't. You can't control her behavior, you can only control yourself. So get disciplined enough to get into the gym and raise those lifts. Make sure you are eating enough to build muscle. A small guy like yourself probably doesn't eat as much as he needs to build that muscle.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy

125 and 5’3” Manlet.

Sorry my Asian friend. Life is a roll of the dice and you lost.

Nothing any amount of RP can fix for you.

[–]redpillruminations[S] 4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

I'm not even Asian. Lol

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

Well, what do you want?

Another Gold Pin for being a fuckboy?

What do you want? How can a 5'3" Manlet who weights 125# ever get a woman wet simply by looking at him?

You are fucked. You need to start injecting 1G of Test into you a week and at least be a big, strong manlet.

You are small, fucking weak and the only people you are bigger than are 16 year old boys and girls.

So either find out who the new Jeffrey Epstein is and hop on that wagon, or stuff Cupcakes in your mouth till you are fatter than the average white girl over the age of 16.

[–]redpillruminations[S] -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

TRT does seem a necessity for me.

[–]WolfofAllStreetz1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

No, 1G of test is.. you need more than 100mg a week trt dose to fix this fuckup.

You need to eat like an animal.

Id post more but you disgust me.

Someone message me where i can get pharma grade test online im sick of this shitty dose doc has me on.

[–]JoeBuckYourslf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This guy knows.

I left my endo 6 years ago and took over my own bloodwork and protocols.

[–]Cloudy_Pirate1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nothing any amount of RP can fix for you.

Tainpanshimshon would like a word.

[–]NeoTheJuanDJ0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you are Asian, If your calf genetics are there, it can make up for the rest of your dimensions. Just do calf raises, while reading the sidebar on kindle, and pray to god there is a light at the end of this tunnel.

[–]RoccoPinkman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

At least Asians are genetically predisposed to having big dicks...........oh, no, wait, I got that wrong.



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