Moved in w/ LTR, big fuck up...

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January 19, 2020

LTR quality took a nose dive after moving in, need advice

So I went against iron law # 4 and now i know why its an iron law to not move in with a significant other unless ur getting married.

Anyways, I realized I want out of my LTR and lease but will most likely just wait it out and bite the bullet. In the meantime, I was looking for any advice that could make the situation better for me until the lease is up.

The Situation: LTR is always on social media, (tiktok,reddit) and loves to just lay around all day and look at memes. She has no career prospects, hardly fucks me now (1/week if that), acts arrogant, cannot admit fault, and cannot take any form of criticism well. I find myself dreading coming home most days. I feel like I need to fake being happy around her. I dont feel any intimacy. When we bang Im doing all the work. I can count on one hand the number of times she’s sucked me off.

Her overall effort is just unacceptable and I really feel like she stopped trying. Wtf do I do? Just dread / gym? Help

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Title Moved in w/ LTR, big fuck up...
Author _reset_me
Upvotes 105
Comments 91
Date 19 January 2020 07:29 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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dread gamelong term relationship

[–]DerekMorganBAU345 points346 points  (34 children) | Copy

Alright my nigga I got you. Here's a step by step guide.

1) Check out. I mean really mentally check out. Game other chicks, go on dates with other chicks, etc. Get on dating apps, the whole nine.

2) Treat her like a roommate. She's treating you like one already anyways.

3) Stop trying to escalate with someone that isn't jumping on your dick. Your hoe should be slobbering on your knob every night and taking dick like the good slut that she knows she is. Leave her alone. Get it from another hoe.

4) Stop paying for her shit. No more buying her food, clothes, snacks, whatever. Tell that bitch to get a job if she wants shit.

5) And most importantly, live single. She nuked your relationship so now you're free. She's not your child, she's another man's dumb slut daughter and you don't have to take care of her.

Your actions will communicate that it's over. Don't express it overtly.

I've never been in your shoes because no hoe is dumb enough to try this shit with me but here's how to handle and manage your bitch.

[–]Musicgoon96 points97 points  (3 children) | Copy

This right here is a good take on dread game. Withdraw your attention from her. I would like to add 2 things.

  1. Go out dressed up really nice and dress like a fucking bum around her.

  2. Go lift. Get hella jacked. Either she will shape up or you'll have several bitches on your dick in no time. Probably both.

[–]ghosthumper_6951 points52 points  (0 children) | Copy

Go out dressed up really nice and dress like a fucking bum around her.

now that's a pro gamer move lol

[–]brique87913 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lmao at #1

[–]Vynxe-Vainglory8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

.#1 is exactly what LTR chicks do anyway. It’s beyond fair game.

[–]dasani778 points79 points  (1 child) | Copy

Alright my nigga....I'm black and that made me laugh so hard lol

[–]VigilantSmartbomb13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

bahaha sameee laughed so good - "Are you, me?" lmfao

[–]_reset_me16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

Im doing a portion of 1. (Mentally check out) and Ive been doing 4. Really good advice thanks

[–]imtheoneimmortal9 points10 points  (24 children) | Copy

6 take a girl and bang it in your room while she’ll be there

[–]COLIE5344 points45 points  (21 children) | Copy

Wrong. This is how you get into situations. You dont want drama, you either want a new girl or her to figure it the fuck out.

[–]ducaati0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed. Nothing in her face. Let her infer everything.

[–]imtheoneimmortal-3 points-2 points  (7 children) | Copy

She’ll make dramma and she’s already testing him

If he wants to fuck another girl why not

But you’re right maybe she got the house and he can’t do much

[–]_reset_me10 points11 points  (6 children) | Copy

Hes right, I could not afford for her to move out. We split the rent w/ other roommates.

She already makes a lot of drama and feeds into negativity

[–]zzt_zf_thz_blzz10 points11 points  (5 children) | Copy

You’re with the wrong girl, my man. Feeding into negativity is near top of my red flags list for someone I’m getting into a long term thing with. It’s the sort of girl who’d casually mention breaking up just to get a rise and your attention. Not worth it.

[–]_reset_me6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy

I see that now, it just sucks bc to me it feels like she changed into a completely different person. I need to be more observant of red flags in the future.

[–]zzt_zf_thz_blzz18 points19 points  (3 children) | Copy

It’s all good, bro. You’ll learn.

Keep one thing in mind about the red pill philosophies through, they aren’t exactly how the world is. I found it when I was a younger and already didn’t have an issue getting girls but seemed to have a problem keeping them. And what I’ve realized over the years is that the red pill is exactly spot on about how you need to be extremely high value. But the outlook it has towards women as a whole is not a 100% correct. Close, but too much lack of nuance.

So yes, keep it in mind and follow it, but I’d suggest form your own pill because your reality is always going to be your own, and sex might be the beginning but it isn’t the end of life, there’s a lot more to it. My main takeaway from trp is becoming the best version of yourself. One mistake a lot of people here make is that they do it for women.

Nah, do it for yourself.

[–]_reset_me3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

That last paragraph was straight gold

[–]zzt_zf_thz_blzz5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Thank you my man, I appreciate it. You seem like you’re still early in your self-improvement journey so if you ever need one to one advice about shit, you can hit me up. Peace.

[–]VigilantSmartbomb-5 points-4 points  (11 children) | Copy

Not Wrong. This is how you fuck two bitches at once. Dog. You never ACTUALLY want a new girl, you want them all. You want to reject them if theyre not to your standard but it's never really "over" - You'd likely fuck them if they got their shit together

Point being, fuck all the bitches lmao I just had 5 on my dick last week easy as fuck - just be present

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (10 children) | Copy

You shouldn’t ever plate an ex. It’s unnecessary drama and you’re playing with her feelings. Just be honest and move on instead of playing a stupid game. There is enough pussy.

[–]CatK206 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Are you kidding? I do this all the time and it works great. I'm still hooking up with my ex, plating one other, and if everything goes to plan I will plate another new girl. When my other ex comes down to visit we're going to meet up and she's a former plate so things will be going there. Ex's are easy plates if you do it right. You're missing out

[–]VigilantSmartbomb2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy

You can be honest and still fuck your ex’s you know that right?

And trp is amoral so no thanks

I’m gonna get the pussy I wanna get and if she’s still fire she’s still fire if I fuck with her she knows what it is period. Idk how you live your life but

Yeah there’s enough pussy and it’s all with me.

I was fuckin with 5 bitches at the same time last week and my ex was with them.

Do you bro my girls down to fuck bitches and just causes she’s an “ex” doesn’t mean I straight up excommunicated her.

Live your life tho 👌🏽

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

Trp itself is amoral but it teaches you to go your own way and forge your own morals. my way is to not play with peoples feelings.

It’s nice that you fuck 5 girls in a week but I barely have time because of my company to fuck so much lol but even if I would rather fuck 4 instead of 4 and my ex

[–]offbeat_glass1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Idk bro ex's already know what you like and how you like it. I fucked two of my ex's at once and it was nirvana.

[–]VigilantSmartbomb0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Again, that’s your assumption stop bein a bitch

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

When did I bitch lol

[–]VigilantSmartbomb0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

“My way is to not play with peoples feelings” you’re trying to justify your actions to yourself by declaring our actions different and yours more moral. Never said I didn’t keep it 100 and being real with myself isn’t playing with their feelings. Look if I end with them in the end that’s great, but it’s not there now so I’m not going to “play with their feelings” and act like it is. I don’t want to be in a relationship with them. I want to fuck them. If I still fuck with them I do for a reason and they know that.

[–]IvyExcess3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yall shake your heads, but this is the exact right move.

[–]imtheoneimmortal5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

She’s acting like roommate and he wants to fuck her

I don’t fuck roommates

[–]VigilantSmartbomb-5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy


  1. DARE

  2. Dread

  3. It was just your turn anyways

  4. Keep 2 in the pocket (so you don't over commit)

  5. iron rule # fucking 4.

I feel like we should talk using theories cause if dudes aren't reading the sidebar like they should then honestly fuckem

[–][deleted]  (1 child) | Copy


[–]Enlightened_Chimp2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ya, just tell her u want out and leave, it's simple. Gonna be awkward until u find a new place tho.

[–]mr4kino36 points37 points  (3 children) | Copy

No you don't dread/gym to solve this. You do this whenever you can, LTR or not.

You package your stuff, leave and go no contact with this "LTR".

Typical girl you are describing here. Once you moved in with her you sent her the message "it's your win". I mean some of them at least fake it for couple of months then display this good-for-nothing behaviour. Looks like yours didn't even have time for this.

[–]_reset_me15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy

Its just so crazy, she changed into a totally different person after moving in. She was really good to me before. Ur completely correct

[–]boardrider737 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

It happens man! Thats why it's an iron rule. Cut yourself some slack though. It's all a learning process. Theres some good advice on here. Just get out now and rip the band aid off.

[–]weaglf37 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly, dont let bitches change your mindset and frame, focus on your mission again. Do not do anything because of her actions. If she bothers you, do not invest anymore and leave (especially in your current situatuon).

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (7 children) | Copy

I think the problem is you. She's just a girl and you vet her yourself.. you chose the woman with no hobbies and you expect her to be your personal cum slut? She may or may not be trash but the choice was yours. Dread will help temporarily. But it won't fix her emptyness. Are you fit, are you busy? Do you keep yourself sharp and have options? You most likely do not. The problem is you. She's just a mirror of what you are. Move on, take an L and improve yourself.

[–]_reset_me3 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy

Accurate portrayal, but i do keep busy working fulltime / college, physical hobbies. Gotta ramp it up

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Either way, start gaming other women. Be less available. Again, it is temporary fix. It won't make her into another woman..she is what she is.

[–]VigilantSmartbomb7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

He shouldv'e never stopped gaming women- even if you get married the game doesnt stop. Doesn't mean you need to fuck everyone still but still need to make your wife drip lol

[–]VigilantSmartbomb1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

What hobbies besides lifting?

[–]_reset_me1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Surfing and snowboarding (when i can). Open to suggestions on hobbies that get me out of the house

[–]VigilantSmartbomb6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Lift more, if you're not prime physically then lift more. It'll help with your other hobbies anyways.

One of the best hobbies to get into is bouldering as well. Great community and a great work out.

[–]_reset_me0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ill look into that

[–]RPNorvell[M] 17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy

Don't be there as much as possible.

[–]wheremyballsgo6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is what helped me the most with my wife of 10 years. Combined with abundance mindset and oi.

[–]WiterS213 points14 points  (4 children) | Copy

Before you let a woman move with you, she has to be a plate, and you have to have her perfectly trained into being totally submissive, and doing anything you ask.

You also have to be sure that she is occupied, and if she is unemployed, you need to give activities to her. It doesn't matter if you don't need anything. You have to come with some bullshit, so she follows your lead.

At minimum, does she cooks and clean?

[–]_reset_me4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

She used to cook a lot for me but rarely does. She cleans but i feel like she does things for me to use as a bargaining chip later (“Look at all this stuff ive done for you”)

[–]WiterS26 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

You have to reward women immediately after they behave good, and punish after they misbehave.

(of course, punish doesn't means physical violence. Just dress and go away to pick other women)

That way they learn that, to get the good side of you, they need to please you.

Look, women do not play by the rule of "I owe you because you did something for me in the past". Women don't give a shit about anything you did in the past, even if you sacrificed everything to save her life. Women live in the moment, like dogs.

So you owe her nothing for anything she did in the past. She only says it, because she knows that you believe it, and it makes you manipulable.

She will always overvalue any minor thing she did, and will undervalue anything you did. It never is an honest attitude, but just gaming you.

Look at what a woman would do if the tables were turned. She would say "yes, you cooked, but didn't added enough garlic". "Yes, but you don't set the table properly", with a voice tone meaning that she actually cares for it, and it totally ruins what you did.

Everything you do for her, or she does for you is in the moment.

When you reward and punish, you are leading, and women feel good, because they know what to do to be loved. If you don't, there come the shit tests, and the dry cunts.

If she stopped cooking, is because she no more see the value of it. She already owns you, and there is no incentive to work for it anymore.

She already has you in the pocket, and now there is only a thrill into hunting a new man.

This is hard to fix. It is much easier to start training a new girl, than to fix the fuck up you did.

[–]_reset_me1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Now thats a redpill

[–]alphakari16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'd get some side, and not really hide it either. Probably hint at the end of the exclusivity, or even outright inform her before I even found another bitch just cause I don't like lying about it.

The solution to a bitch causing problems is most easily fixed by finding another bitch.

[–]Aeiexgjhyoun_III4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Isn't this exactly why you should move in with someone before getting married. Now you see her true character without the binding contract of a marriage.

[–]WiterS29 points10 points  (4 children) | Copy

If you accept that behavior:

-You deserve it.

-She loses respect. And comen can't love men they don't respect.

Tell her to move away. Tell her that it is not what you expected, but do not explain why (or she will irrationally out-argue you). Do not get into arguments.

[–]_reset_me2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Would take this route if i had the money. She does pay rent. What do u think about me paying my remaining rent and moving out early? (to parents while i finish my degree)

[–]BePrivateGirl2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sometimes you have to make hard choices. Now, later, personal decisions, business decisions. Some choices are hard because there is a cost involved.

So what’s six months rent? $2000, $8000, $12000.

If the situation was reversed, and you weren’t going into debt, but instead getting paid, would you act like a wet towel weak bitch for 6 months? There’s a lot of psychology in this, conditioning your brain over a long period of time to accept your weakening status and submit to a bunch of bullshit.

What’s your price? You can go back to your parents you said. Maybe she can jump on a thirstier guys dick. It seems like she wins, but in the the long run she’s even more screwed than you are.

[–]WiterS21 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You need new women. If you can't have sex with new women, because she lives in your place, then you are no better than living with your parents.

[–]theUnBannableHulk2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy

So many threads wouldn’t be needed if we made

50 Shades of Red


Even before reading that. There have been a couple 9s who’ve spent a few days at mine and I just can’t see myself living with a woman for more than 3-4 days at a time.

I just cannot.

Harems were built for a reason so these chickendheads could be larked in comfort to squawk all day away from the Emperor.

[–]_reset_me6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

Hey man ur right. 90 percent of posts are just idiots hamstering w/ their dick about an ex or someshit. But i am young and naive and I went against the sidebar. I acknowledge that

[–]theUnBannableHulk5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

We all fuck up man, that’s how we get experience.

I would just suggest you do one thing

Sit down and calculate whether nuking your relationship and breaking your lease is worth to make you happier and affect the more important parts of your life positively.

If yes, then don’t tell her shit, just sneak move the fuck out and break up.

If no, fuck, I don’t know...I never think it acceptable to sacrifice my happiness and peace of mind for a rental agreement. I’d rather pay the fine and be free and happy of a shitty situation specially with a bish.

What happens if you break up and stay and she brings over some loser to shag, now you’re more depressed.

What happens if she MeToos you, now you’re fucked.

Ask all the guys who got took for their stuff in divorce if they would have preferred to sell the house and hide their money (lost it in an accident, my dog ate it) and ass than go through the divorce court torture mill and they’ll tell you without exception they would have taken 1000s of dollars in losses over the absolute emotional shit show which fucked up EVERY other healthy aspect of their lives

[–]_reset_me0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Amen. Thanks for the wisdom

[–]burn-all-bridges5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy

[–]theUnBannableHulk1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy


[–]burn-all-bridges1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Thank you for sharing, I hadn't seen this yet. This is why I go so deep into the comments. 🙌🏻

[–]theUnBannableHulk0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Anytime 👍🏻

[–]oldertybasterd0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks for the link

[–]Livecrazyjoe2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I see alot of of bad drama filled advice here. Instead just be a grown up. First of all don't be afraid of her. She's a small women. Sit her down and tell her you want to move out. Whether you want to still bang her or not is irrelevant. Then decide the logistics.

If she bitches, complains, or tries to make it work don't listen. Set a date and make it happen.

[–]Billuman11 points12 points  (4 children) | Copy

I don't get why this is an Iron Law. Seems dumb. This way you get to check it out before signing in the dotted line (literally). Now that you know more about her, you won't ever marry here.

Congratulate yourself.

[–]palsnotkcots1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Dosnt seem like a big difference to a guy but to a girl who actually owns the apartment/ house is heaven or hell

[–]Billuman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hence rented house.

[–]Casanova-Quinn1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The 4th Iron Rule states “NEVER under any circumstance live with a woman you aren’t married to or are not planning to marry in within 6 months.”

Keywords: planning to marry

So yes, you can live with a girl to screen her before marriage.

[–]_reset_me0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Better way to look at the situation, thanks

[–]DTron23322 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well, looks like it’s time to move out. You knew the consequences of breaking the iron rule, and you did it anyway.

You have 2 options. Move on, or continue to put yourself through bullshit with a girl that doesn’t even care about fucking you, knowing there’s other women out there that would love to be deep throated by you. Pretty easy decision

[–]RatMan291 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Getting married is not an exception. It would only make it even harder and more expensive to get back out.

[–]Toowhammy1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Truth is... this is how’s its going to be. Every woman you ever live with will be like this. Your marriage will be like this. Especially when you allow it. You mine as well learn some of these skills now. You’ve done nothing. Ignoring it and then bouncing is pussy shit. That’s what women do. Step up, say something. Tell her how you feel and what you plan on doing with your future if she doesn’t drastically change many things about her behavior. And that if she’s got any problems with me... nows the time to speak up. Kicking the hornets nest, holding your ground, keeping your frame and following through is the bare minimum skill a man needs if he’s ever going to lead a relationship.

[–]MisterRoid1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think you should sit her down and break up with her. If you are lucky that will make her uncomfortable living with you and she may agree to take over the contract so you can move out, or she will be at the apartment less often while still paying rent. So don't even pretend to be content with your "relationship". Pussyfooting around the issue is only good for her, not you. Women are more afraid of conflicts than men and prefer to avoid them. And yeah, your main priority is obviously to get your living conditions in order and then not allow a woman to get this sort of power over you ever again.

My girlfriend lives with me and I'm on the contract. That puts her in a weak position and ensures obedience. If the relationship ends she has to move out and find a new man or a new place. If I was in your position I'm sure I would suffer the same fate (which is why I refuse to get a big apartment with expensive rent making me dependant on another person).

[–]strainer1230 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Can't you kick her out? It sounds like you're paying all the bills, just tell her she should go back to where she came from, maybe her parents house, and be careful, common law might kick in soon if there's such a thing where you live.

[–]_reset_me0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I cant because her name is on the lease and she does pay rent (on/off jobs, support from relatives). We have other roommates

[–]strainer1231 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Oh, so you're fucked, yeah do that dread thing, gather all this frustration and anger you feel towards her, and when you fuck her, rage-fuck her, thats what I did when I used to live together and I couldn't end it yet, build that rage instead of letting it go, and deep-dick the shit out of her, then when you can move away end it and be free again.

[–]_reset_me0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Havent thought of it that way, sounds like a good idea

[–]seemsonormal19790 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Fuck all of these tactics that just circle back to her & her behavioral response. It's no longer about her- fuck gaming other bitches & lifting for now. Your #1 priority should be immediately prioritizing your financial situation as a means of getting the fuck out. Everything else is merely clutter relative to that objective. Strategize, make it your mission as if your life depends upon it. There's a great sense of resiliency & creativity that comes alive in masculine energy when you properly activate those fight or flight stress receptors in your belly. Utilize short term stress as a means to long term relaxation. Follow your gut.

[–]VigilantSmartbomb0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Man why the fuck are you going home if you dont wanna go home - That's wtf gets me. Grow some balls dog.

[–]_reset_me2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

I know its like im a lifecuck - cucking my own life. It really just comes down to money at this point

[–]brique8791 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Being broke would be worse than you current situation. Sounds like your young in college. Move with you parents or stay active while you save up. Shop around maybe you can find a good deal to live somewhere else. You also need to calm down a bit this will change soon.

[–]VigilantSmartbomb-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]Timetochange101-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Go lift

[–]HurricaneHugues-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol sounds more like your problem than ours. Why would anyone bother give you advice now, when you've already proved that you don't care about RP advice?

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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