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What does genuine desire from a women look like?

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dirtymint
January 20, 2020
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Found TRP and have been making my way through the rational male series and no more Mr nice guy.

I've been with the same girl since 17 am 31 now and have been married since 23 (I know the beta is cringe).

Because I have been in an LTR with the same person for this long, I wanted to know what genuine desire from a woman looks and feels like?


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Title What does genuine desire from a women look like?
Author dirtymint
Upvotes 94
Comments 97
Date 20 January 2020 03:29 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]PiperBigBell77 points78 points  (4 children) | Copy

Genuine desire from a woman looks like this: She makes things easy for you, she's not difficult, she complies, she's submissive, she lusts for you and has little to no sexual reservation regarding you, fucks you passionately, she goes along with whatever you want to do, she fucks you like her life depends on it, you don't have to negotiate to get what you want from her, she actively looks to be apart of your life, responds quickly.

[–]RPthrowaway12320 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm saving this because I feel like it's a good, concise description of everything I'd want from a woman. If I find myself wondering in a relationship, boom easy way to see if things have strayed.

[–]Truedemocracy66 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

And she doesn’t nag about shit

[–]northernhubbub2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

That’s an excellent summary. I’d add that she supports your dreams, gives you space when you want it, does stuff for you on her own accord (cleaning, cooking, favours), wants to be a team, defers to you for advice regarding work / life, drops her other things when around you (no phone usage etc). I’m sure there’s more too

[–]cornylamygilbert1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

somebody geld this

[–]HurricaneHugues67 points68 points  (1 child) | Copy

It's not beta cringe if you actually have a girl worth keeping. Don't ve fooled into thinking that playing the field endlessly is better than being steady with a good woman.

[–]Former-Rabbit6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't ve fooled into thinking that playing the field endlessly is better than being steady with a good woman.

Neither is inherently better. Do what suits you best.

[–]mr4kino27 points28 points  (26 children) | Copy

Well do you have any issues in your relationship?

[–]dirtymint[S] 41 points42 points  (25 children) | Copy

No, sex is on tap anytime I ask and she will do anything. The only issue is she doesn't initiate much but I'm confident I could easily find someone who does if I really wanted to but it's not really worth it.

[–]mr4kino114 points115 points  (9 children) | Copy

That's good for a 14 years relationship. Well done.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (8 children) | Copy

I wouldn't be so sure. It may not be desire, but rather, she may be at that "breeding" time in her life where she just wants to get fucked. Hence lack of initiation.

[–]RPthrowaway12335 points36 points  (1 child) | Copy

If he's happy with the relationship and getting sex when he wants and so on, I'd say it's pretty good too.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah course.

[–]northernhubbub4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy

This one’s interesting. Can you elaborate on how a lack of initiation and woman being the breeding stage (say in her mid 30s) are linked?

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (4 children) | Copy

Because she doesn't desire him enough to initiate, yet when it's offered she'll take it because of being in the breeding stage and generally horny. It's a well known fact women are in their sexual peak in their thirties. If that's indisputable, why isn't his partner initiating?

Much like how you don't desire McDonald's enough at a particular time of the day, enough so to go order it, but if your roommate comes home with some you'll gladly accept a burger.

[–]RedHoodhandles3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

Women's sexual peak is early to mid twenties. There's no such thing as a 'breeding phase', only pre-wall and post-wall. And her lack of initiative could be either lack of sexual interest or being submissive or both or neither.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

I heard around their 30s they biologically have a strong urge to reproduce. Hence wanting to get bred.

[–]user201806204 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Around their 30s they get sluttier because they realize that male attraction for them is fading, and they are trying to grab on to whatever they can find.

In an ltr, they get sexual to keep their man from trading up to a younger model.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well, that's if the guy even has the option to get an upgrade. If he is a beta she will know she can lock him down sexless.

[–]teabagabeartrap5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I would suggest married red pill to you, it is another subreddit.

But... mhh my point of view is this: I have this girl and I was unhappy that she wasnt initiating, when I didn't. Normally I tell her.. come to me, scratch my back or my head. Get undressed and wait here and there for me etc.

But as she never initiated herself, I put her on a freeze in that regards and didn't initiate for 10 days. We had no sex, no affection, nothing. And it was not good between us.

After 10 days I said fuck it, this one is done, but I will get my little friend wet before I drop this. And well... I did it, and commended her around and on the next day she told, that she is happy as hell and don't know why. She doesnt understand herself.

That was the moment I understood, that if you are married or together long term. You need to be better than the rest of the world and always have to work. That is really harder than all the stuff here, where you just want her for a while. You can never let your guard down and be the leader of the relationship. At least if you want a happy wife...

I came to peace, that I have duties... and on the other side hey... I am in Command. We do what I say. Great feeling. Makes me happy. After I swallowed this very hard pill I tried to talk away for a lenghtier while...

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side note: this is not canon here... surely I will get downvoted. But maybe this is something that helps you. Didn't sound too bad what you wrote. Imho no need to go too far too fast. This will cause more harm then good.

Have fun!

[–]Whitefarmer11 points12 points  (10 children) | Copy

Initiating sex is your job. Initiating blowjobs is her job

[–]dirtymint[S] 10 points11 points  (8 children) | Copy

Initiating sex is your job.

I've been wondering about this for a while. It is still nice if she initiates though and sex usually happens after a blowjob

[–]BarcaLiverpool2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

What are some ways to initiate sex?

[–]omega_dawg9321 points22 points  (3 children) | Copy

don't talk... just kiss a lot, grab ass like you mean it... kiss more... and KISS HER PASSIONATELY. then just pull your hammer out.

my favorite move is to turn her around, cup her breasts from behind, kiss her neck while rubbing my unit up/down her butt cheeks. not many resist that one because she's feeling my hands, my mouth & my dick all at the same time.

note: submission begins with trust... trust begins with turning your back to the person. see the animal kingdom for natural examples of this.

if she hasn't grabbed on to your dick by then, place her hand on it. she will get to work if she wants it.

again... STFU and just act.

[–]Trposh0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

then just pull your hammer out

lol nice

[–]omega_dawg930 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

it's a legit move. girls like dix... why deny her what she wants?

they also like to be dominated. one of the most dominant physical things you can do is (confidently) grab your hammer and offer it up for servicing.

if she wants you, there will be no hesitation in her part.

[–]Trposh0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Fully agree. I was lol’ing at the terminology, not the move itself.

[–]Whitefarmer4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah that’s true to. I just except that s the way it is. I think deep down they want to submit and initiating just doesn’t feel right to them. If she’s more than happy if you initiate that’s desire

[–]Nergaal1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

it also has to do with habits. if she isn't used to initiating, and there is no change with you (you didn't add a noticeable amount of muscle recently, you haven't been hit on by hotter girls in front of her, etc), you shouldn't be surprised she isn't initiating

[–]diehard11941 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

A feminine and submissive woman will not initiate sex. She might throw hints at you (new lingerie, certain looks, innuendos) but it’s your responsibility to make sex happen. You lead she follows. You tell her what you want her to do to you. When the reverse happens, she initiates more than you do, and she takes the lead sex is likely to be transactional - “I do this so he can do what I want later on”. Eventually, she’ll use it to manipulate you.

[–]BrickSandMordor0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

A blowjob’s still a job.

[–]HurricaneHugues1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't be a moron and drop one in the hand for two in a bush. You're the man, you lead. Unless you're built and you can invoke genuine sexual desire from her with just your body, don't expect her to he initiating a lot. Do u lift?

[–]OfficerWade1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ah, the grass is always greener approach. Don’t worry. Any women worth having won’t initiate and you can believe she isn’t initiating with any other guy. You gotta take the good with the bad and the ugly. Sorry bud.

[–]W_O_M_B_A_T-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

The only issue is she doesn't initiate much but I'm confident I could easily find someone who does

Apply more dread game.

It's clear to her competing for your attention and interest isn't necessary or rewarding.

[–]biezpiens139 points140 points  (22 children) | Copy

she will break her own set of rules for you. she will do shit for you. she will compete for you. etc.

had this plate recently- fucked her on the first date, after a month or so of dicking her she said: "you know i normally don't sleep with guys on the first date if I think there could be something serious between us and since i saw you smoke ( I smoke cigars when i drink ) i thought 'ok this guy smokes so i won't see him again anyway'" and so she proceeded to swallow that protein 2 hours after meeting and kept coming back for more. perfect example of genuine attraction and how they'll break rules for alphas make rules for betas.

[–]BadDeath73 points74 points  (6 children) | Copy

Sorry to break it to you but there is nothing better that proves that ‘’AWALT’’ is true like the phrase: ‘’you know I normally don’t sleep with guys on the first date’’.

[–]Truedemocracy626 points27 points  (1 child) | Copy

Lol have heard that almost every time

[–]RedditCantGetMyEmail0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

What's a good answer to this?

[–]2319Skew19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

"Wow. Must be your lucky day. My boss never let's me take off 2% off the out the door price."

[–]Greek-God-Brody3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Only with players. So if your game is tight, she will sleep with you on the first date. She will not be able to resist it.

[–]BadDeath6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

She is not LTR material if she sleeps with every player made avaible to her.

[–]muricanwerewolf17 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Welcome to the state of the western world.

[–]Truedemocracy631 points32 points  (0 children) | Copy

Spot on. Betas literally pay for sex. See sorry husbands I’m friends with who’s women only get horny when it’s after getting a new car, vacation, or time for a new kid.

A woman who wants you will blow you in the restaurant bathroom

[–]mickenrorty10 points11 points  (8 children) | Copy

True but they also say this for plausible deniability, they want to portray to you that they’re not slutty, not just for you specifically but for their image in the social network graph of people you mutually know. She doesn’t want you telling the boys etc.

[–]mrmaika100 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Well yeah obviously

[–]lakazepo-1 points0 points  (6 children) | Copy

I've had women say they won't sleep with me on the first night then text me literally the very next day, not even 12 hours later, looking to hook up haha. I find that shit so dumb that I just reject them everytime.

[–]muricanwerewolf13 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

I can’t imagine turning down sex for a reason that dumb.

[–]lakazepo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

To each their own.

[–]mickenrorty0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Haha yeh, turning them down for that reason... sounds like homey ain’t into women

[–]lakazepo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Or... I have standards? Lol

[–]mikkeldaman2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Haha... I reject girls who offer me sex all the time because I am so alpha. Bitches be so dumb. Right guys? Right? High five? Anyone?

[–]lakazepo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

... calm down there lol. I think you just took a hit to the ego. I reject them because they try to use dumb ego boosting tactics. Its unattractive to me.

[–]theUnBannableHulk10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Man this is the thread ender right here.

Learn this by heart . 👍🏻

[–]VigilantSmartbomb2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

First I've heard that but it's beyond true. Hoes don't have morals for the right one.

She'd prolly kill for me

[–]HurricaneHugues6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

What she actually said was: "You know, I don't fuck guys on the first date unless they're Chads. But I almost strictly only accept dates from Chads"

[–]ForeverInYou1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Ehh some of them will also just lie to make you think she's a princess. It's a double edge sword, it's hard to really know a girl if she's that much into you

[–]mikkeldaman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Words can be deceiving indeed so maybe you should stop paying attention to them. Pay attention to actions instead.

[–]hoopingblob49 points50 points  (3 children) | Copy

When she goes to the witch doctor to perform a blood sacrifice so your business can prosper 😍😍😍

That's true love

For real tho: If she does anything to make you happy and feel appreciated.

[–]W_O_M_B_A_T9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

Hold on there. You're into some real sick shit.

.....You and I could get along.

[–]hoopingblob3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Let's go to Moshupa there are the best witch doctors my brother

[–]hatefulreason1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

this is why women are scared of the internet :)) they'll never bond like men

[–]Foolishoe13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's not beta to be married dude. It's beta to be married and not living a great life as a male.

That means staying strong and keeping your castle in good order. That means being able to tell your woman what you want and she is supportive of your desires and passions.

​

Beta is being a doormat, getting talked down to, laughed at by your wife, who is supposed to be your life long 110% down for whatever road dog.

It's hard to magically get that, and it takes years of work and constant work to maintain it. We all live different levels of that with our partners, our plates, but that is what we are out there prospecting for.

​

We are looking for the essential things that make our life great, complimented by the presence of a female in our lives.

You should be fine on your own, secure and comfortable, sociable, capable. You work to make yourself that way, but with your wife, you should be stronger together, better.

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[–]KAWA_TOY6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

LMAO! This is gold.

[–]MrTrizzles8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

You’re her world. She longs to just be in your presence. One form that takes is her curled up on the floor with a blanket and a book, while you work at your desk close by.

She will start to lose her mind if she cannot see you for more than a couple weeks or so, slowly consumed by her worst fears—that you’ve left her, or met with some calamity, or are hurt, whatever. She won’t be able to help herself.

When seeing you she will get misty eyed if it’s been a couple days, tear-faced if over a week. Other times she will weep with relief and joy such that she won’t be able to stand.

[...] She puts her life in your hands and trusts you know what you’re doing.

I still can’t wrap my head around how it is that women feel safest when they are at their most vulnerable. Just the word “submissive” even sounds evil.

It’s no surprise they have a special kind of anger for men who are able to conceal an ugly nature and exploit her trust.

[–]-Skizzy2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Damn that was actually beautifully written.

[–]_quote6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

When you look her in the eyes she looks back and gives you a big smile every single time. She walks right by your side whenever you walk somewhere, not 3 feet away. Laughs at all your jokes even if they aren’t that funny.

[–]W_O_M_B_A_T4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

She regresses to the level of a giggling 5 year old.

[–]liquorbaron3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Surprised no one has mentioned it but your situation is a bit of a different case. Since you were dating her since you were 17 (don't know her age at the time) there's more of a chance that she pair bonded to you. What was her sexual history like (if any) before you?

The more men a woman fucks, the chance for her to ever be able to pair bond goes down dramatically. This is why so many women that ride the cock carousel for so long will NEVER end up in any sort of stable relationship. It becomes unnatural to them. This is also why female virginity has been prized forever. Not only is there the aspect of being "untainted", there's also the aspect that there's a greater chance she will stick with her first true love.

As with anything it's not a guarantee but in your case (considering how early and how long you've both been together and barring any sort of nefarious, unknown actions on her part) one could conclude that there is a pair bond.

Because I have been in an LTR with the same person for this long, I wanted to know what genuine desire from a woman looks and feels like?

She likes to do shit for you without you asking in order to appease you.

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[–]dirtymint[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

I meant that about getting married so early before I realized my potential value in the future

[–]TreatYouLikeAQuean-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I know the beta is cringe

you forgot to add a space. but i do agree it's like he was trying to lessen the onslaught of incel judgey dudes that bombard threads with "FAGGOT" if they read a line that goes against the sidebar.

[–]MisterRoid-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't see beta as a weird term, but yeah, I agree. Many guys here are idiots who think they are the shit cause they can cite the sidebar in their sleep and use the word "plate" to describe any girl they have had sex with. You are just another beta cuck when you blindly follow Rollo's word and not much better than the blue pilled guys you are bashing...

[–]RP_COGuy5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

You need to go to the married red pill sub. Women are the same, but how you play the game is a little different. It's essentially hard mode. You will have more reading to do.

[–]1Red_Pill_Brotherhood4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

She will make everything easy. She will be enthusiastic, will quickly and effortlessly make plans with you, you'll fuck within 2 dates, she'll break her rules for you, she will make an effort to please you, and you are her top priority. Things will just flow.

[–]I_LOVE_CHIPS2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy

Put some personal experiences below, but this article will show you what women who desire NFL players are willing to do.

  1. When she goes out of her way to hang out with you: I've had so many girls flakes for X, Y and Z reasons. But I've had LTRs and plates go to unbelievable lengths just to spend time with me. One girl drove 8 hours from Auburn to New Orleans to spend a 2 day weekend with me. In the meanwhile, over the last 2 weeks I've had 6 dates lined up and 3 flaked day of.

  2. When she picks out outfits to wear for you, especially ones that only you will see. (lingerie etc...)

  3. When she starts texting you a bunch of stupid shit, generally it means she likes you. It's her way of saying "pls respond so I know that you care / pls pay attention to me"

  4. Breaks her "rules" for you. If she is attracted to you, there are no rules. Just do the Brad Pitt test if you ever hear any one of these:

"I'm too hot/cold/dirty for sex"; "I just changed the sheets"; "The sheets are tool old"; "I'm not some slut you can just use when it takes your fancy"; "You are always on about sex, give me a break"; "Stop pestering me, I feel threatened"; "Every couple tails off sexually at some point, sex just isn't that important to me anymore"; "We have to get up early tomorrow"; "It's too late for sex" followed by three hours on netflix; "The neighbors/baby/dog/local pub/ will hear us"

[–]omega_dawg930 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

they don't desire nfl players... they desire nfl level $.

... unless you think most women really like those guys if they were not pro athletes.

[–]I_LOVE_CHIPS0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I would argue it's status > money.

Either way, those stories of groupies should give OP a good idea of what women are willing to do when they are attracted to a man (for whatever reason).

[–]setsuna00 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

What's the Brad Pitt test

[–]MrBreitling4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

This is the state of Asktrp, this is FIRST DAY shit. Do none if you read the god damn side bar?

The brad pitt test is a euphemism for saying that if she said no to you, would she say YES to brad pitt or whoever her favourite hot celeb is.

If she said no and she would say YES to brad pitt, AWALT and your smv is too fucking low.

[–]setsuna03 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Why are you so mad? I remember now. I read that a long time ago but forgot the term. I just asked a question.

In fact I'm reading Irrational Male now give me a break lol.

[–]MrBreitling4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

irrational male

Is that by Tollo Romassi?

[–]setsuna00 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

fuck, auto correct lol

[–]RedPillAlphaBigCock2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

you are doing great - get off this subreddit - lift and shag /thread

[–]Trposh2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This question reminds me of a oneitis from around this time last year. Initially, we met for a few drinks, after which she followed up to confirm we’d hang out again that weekend. Fast forward to around midnight on that second date, we’re at a bar and I invite her back to my place. Her response: “I could’ve gone home a long time ago.” Touché.

That night was the best sex I’ve ever had. I’m like holy shit, this is what it’s like when a girl is legitimately into me. After making out a little bit, she’s breathing heavily af, I carry her to my bedroom, she puts my dick in her mouth and starts going to town. After we’re done, she tells me giving head “turns her on.”

For the next month or so, she’s always available. Comes over for sex whenever I want despite her having to get up early the next morning.

Fast forward a few weeks and I’ve started fucking things up big time - over investing, being too available, the whole nine yards. Next thing I know, she’s making excuses not to come over (has to get up early tomorrow, doesn’t feel like washing her hair, too tired, etc) or not to hook up when we’re hanging out (we just hooked up yesterday, we hooked up last time we hung out, etc). The last contact before we nexted each other was I tried to initiate a hangout and she “had a lot going this weekend.” I never re-initiated contact after that, and neither did she.

Highly suggest searching for mallard cove’s piece “you’re not her top option.” Truly eye opening shit.

[–]mrpthrowa2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

When she says thank you for giving her the chance to suck your cock and swallow your cum.

[–]uniquan2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm glad I read this. Now I feel rest assured with my relationship.

[–]MarkJohnPaul3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Looks like total lack of control

[–]omega_dawg934 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

"how did i end up here when i know better... why am i so turned on... i don't know you well enough... but i can't stop... let's just do this even tho i know it's wrong and will hurt my marriage."

6 yrs later & 2 kids later (with her hubby), and after 100s of fuck sessions, she's STILL saying the same shit as she cooks food at my place & buys shit on my bday.

btw, situations like this is when you realize how good preggo pussy feels. she was an absolute nympho during both pregnancies... wanted to fuck all day every day.

[–]onpuzzle2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah I'd steer clear from fucking married wives. Beta simps can get way triggered to the point where if he finds out, your life may be in danger.

[–]omega_dawg932 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

you do realize that women lie about being married right?

idk why y'all think they don't.

beta simps and their wives need to respect their marriage. if the guy(s) she fucks doesn't know, iiwii... but jealous boyfriends usually know LESS about their lying women than married men.

so there's cause for concern for all of us.

[–]Red_Raze1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

A good woman keeps your belly full and your balls empty.

[–]Lateralanouncer1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You should go to the red pill marriage sub. Trp is more for players.

[–]youngdaggrrdick2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

If she just wants to be around you doing other things than sex

[–]theredsperg2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

she wants to spend all her free time with you, give you her holes, basically she makes herself a fuckhole for your use

[–]_Ulan_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Stick to your own guns and keep your promise to your wife. Besides that, nothing hold you from being a little flirty in your day, you'll soon feel people's desire towards you, and if your not too stupid you'll stop there and call it a day.



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