Did the red pill solve poverty all of a sudden?

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January 22, 2020
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I'm a huge fan of red pill theory and what it stands for. But one thing that kinda irks me is that when I listen to red pill podcasts (Rule Zero, Entrepreneurs in Cars, & others) or even read posts on the sub, they all say they are loaded. A lot of them are guys that are barely 21 and they all talk about their "businesses" and how they were chumps just a couple years ago, and now they can't stop making money, thanks to the red pill.

A lot of it is bullshit, I know. But to those out there that reads this, and you are the exception, what exactly did you do to go from broke to baller so quickly?

And don't get me wrong, I'm not posting this out of jealousy. It just bothers me because these types of claims come off as "sleezy salesman" methods. And it may give many men false hope which can crush them in the long run.


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Title Did the red pill solve poverty all of a sudden?
Author Filmguy000
Upvotes 196
Comments 116
Date 22 January 2020 05:06 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children) | Copy

Nobody goes from broke to baller in a short amount of time unless they hit the lottery. That could be the actual lottery or otherwise getting lucky with a startup or youtube channel that makes a million dollars a year. Yeah, it happens, but it's exceptionally rare and TRP didn't really play into it.

Now I will say this, being prepared for when a big break happens is a part of the game. If luck shines on you, but you don't have your ducks in a row to capitalize on it, then you're going to regret missing your shot for the rest of our life. So ask yourself:

What do you have to lose by getting your shit together?

[–]CuriousIncel2151 points152 points  (2 children) | Copy

Disclaimer: I am not the exception.

Go and watch "The residual costs of living the Red Pill life" by Donovan Sharpe.

Red Pill is not a fucking shortcut. It takes a special kind of effort to cultivate an attitude of dominance. It's "false hope" only for those that don't understand this.

[–]TheBigPone42 points43 points  (1 child) | Copy

Just watched the whole thing and came back to thank you for your recommendation, sir.

I was striving for some motivation the past weeks and the bit after 40:50 in the speech was just what I needed. I'm going to transcript some of it to my personal annotations.

Off to an early day today, and again, thank you.

[–]tekn0_16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

Post the transcript in the main sub

[–]oooKenshiooo37 points38 points  (5 children) | Copy

While I am not loaded, I do what I love (music/teaching) and I get paid handsomely while rarely working more than 5 hours per day. Also, I get a lot of free shit and great opportunities by being around rich people a lot. More free time is always sweet as well, because time is the most valuable asset.

It is really all about abundance mentally and carving out your niche. Not having to feed a family and not having to flash money around to get with women saves you a great deal of money.

Then, Once you get above a certain threshold, you can use money to save money or make even more. It allows you to make purchasing decision out of value given down the line, instead out of the need to fix a problem.

Example: I did a 4 weeks vacation in Vietnam. I booked the flight long in advance, so it was cheap. Rented out my apartment via air bnb. bought a motorbike in the country, so that was cheap as well. I stayed in a different (sometimes even luxury) hotel every day by booking last minute. I ate out 3 times a day and pretty much saw more of the country than most locals. I bought some bespoke suits that would have cost me hefty sums in Europe.

Bottomline: I saved about 300 bucks compared to my cost of living at home.

However, if I was only able to safe that money because I was able to make the initial investment of the flight.

[–]knowledgelover9411 points12 points  (3 children) | Copy

I never thought of renting my place while out on vacation!

As a musician and future teacher, I’m curious, what is your niche? How the fuck do you make decent money with music?

[–]oooKenshiooo9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

Depends on the country.

Where I live, there is a shortage of public school music teachers, so I get to dictate the terms of my employment, which then makes it very friendly for other ventures,touring,etc.

I am also the best teacher for my instrument and genre (rock vocals) In m city, so that makes for well paying private lessons that advertise themselves via word of mouth.

Playing cover shows for corporate events makes decent money and usually works incredibly well via word of mouth.

I also write music for marketing and publishers.

The key was really to consistently show up and provide value for everyone involved.

Relaying Gig opportunities for other musicians, subbing on short notice, recommending musicians to venues, etc.

I also advise to learn non-musical skills closely related to the business - in my case copywriting, producing and marketing.

Eventually, you will be the guy, even in a fairly big city.

[–]i-am-the-prize3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Nice. My buddy that does voice work, became more valuable when he did his own production, editing, delivery and "vertically integrated" vs. being a sit-back-and-wait "talent" guy. He became someone that the content people knew, that they could call and he could "take care of his shit" and help them get out of a bind.

Sure it meant that for several years, he was on short deadlines and stressful schedules, but pay your dues early and enjoy life later (or flip it and be more miserable)

[–]oooKenshiooo1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, that is a good point.

Vertically integrated creative services is what it needs. Once you find a few other like minded freelancers, it becomes easier, because you can work as a collective of loose cannons. ;)

Regarding the enjoyment part...

I suggest picking a grind you actually enjoy. Cause if you don't, you might burn out before you ever get to enjoying life. I would do my job for free, fortunately I don't have to. :D

[–]botet_fotet4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Damn dude, in a similar boat. Do music and private music teaching for income only 4 days a week. Less than 30 hours.

Am able to save at bare minimum $500 a month which I then invest.

With the flexibility of my schedule, I’m able to work freelance out of state. I do very specialized teaching, which people told me to avoid, but has been a huge plus to my career since I worked a lot at it.

Definitely agree, find a niche your excel at and fine the market that needs you. Without a fam currently, it’s much easier to save.

[–]mrpoopistan26 points27 points  (3 children) | Copy

what exactly did you do to go from broke to baller so quickly?

Am I allowed to pipe in if I got my financial situation cooking before I came over to the dark side? /s

I've always been good with computers and coding. I just sort of kept stacking one hustle on top of another.

When I was in my late teens/ early 20s, I started out buying junk computers bulk and rehabbing them for resale -- I skimped every nickel of my student loan refund, btw. Eventually I used the money from that to purchase good enough machines to handle coding and graphic design work and to purchase server space. Money from that was used to buy more advanced servers that I hosted in my house to handle bigger work, such as transactional accounts that required serious encryption.

Eventually I end up with a large collection of domain names through that and started selling those. That worked well, so I automated the buying process and started selling more.

That's about the time I got redpilled. I actually started bringing in enough money and had time that if I wanted to go party four days a week, I could. Overseas travel, too. Eventually, that led to some questions that needed answered because I had never been a club scene person due to being honkingly fucking broke. I'd say I started getting there TRP wise around 29 and hit my stride around 31.

Since then, I've also ventured into analytics and machine learning because why the hell not.

[–]jackandjill228 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

Wtf. Even with that I do not at all understand your business model.

[–]mrpoopistan5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's called keep hustling and keep extending your wins.

[–]bluesnsouls0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I honestly felt like i read about different business models.

[–]laserdicks75 points76 points  (5 children) | Copy

They're selling a show. They're literally paid to come across as successful in order to be worthy of your time and influence. What was the purpose of referring to their wealth?

> they can't stop making money, thanks to the red pill.

Sounds like a fucking get rich quick scheme to me. "Buy my book on how to get rich" = "Mash that like and subscribe button".

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[–]1DubbleFUPAwitCheez4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

TRP is borderline mainstream nowadays

This is true. Borderline. Surprised how I can hear the word "neg" randomly. They have no idea what it is but then again neither do a lot of the guys around here

[–]SalporinRP2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Just like rappers rock $100k chains and drive $500k cars.

People won't take you seriously unless you cultivate the image. Perception is reality.

[–]SavorThePill1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Leased chains and cars, but yes

[–]laserdicks0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Only for some people.

[–]Endorsed Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil20 points21 points  (3 children) | Copy

While we will never know the contents of their bank account, we do know what they physically look like and how much they talk about lifting. The gap between how much they talk about lifting and their body is also probably the gap between their stated success and their bank account.

The definition of the Red Pill is a truth so powerful it socially unacceptable. If a person claims Red Pill and then sells you a fantasy, then he has a poor handle on his definitions.

But to answer your question if your in you early 20's you can earn 50+ an hour personal training women. Selling personal training to women will also help your game.

[–]celad_pls4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

How do you go about starting something like this? Just post up advertisements for your services?

[–]Endorsed Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Get hired at a gym steal their methodology and then go rent a space at a fitness studio

[–]Chaddeus_Rex0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

even better than selling $50 sessions to women - sell old ladies surface go's when they come by to buy a notebook.

Why do they need a notebook? that's a part of the past! They don't seem like a lady stuck in the past!!!! no way! Have they considered the future? What do you mean what's the future? you can literally write on your computer and access it anywhere and you don't need to carry a notebook around!!!1! isn't that great news? Also, would you like to get the surface pen with that?

[–]legitniga11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

A ton of those guys are pretending to be rich so they can eventually sell you courses on “how to get rich.” They sell a hundred suckers a thousand dollar course where they explain how to make shitty profit margins from reselling low quality products via dropshipping on Shopify stores and bam! they’ve made 100k for the year.

[–]cydestiny11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Rollo mentioned in one of the recent Rule Zero: Red Pill can't save everyone, especially those who can't even put their life together. They seems loaded because they are happy with their lives. or is on their way making their life great.

The red pill has a few levels of meaning, to some people it is just the disturbing truth that was buried under the new age, i.e. pleasing everyone and not focusing enough on themselves. Once they started doing that, replacing chasing for girls with creating contents like e-books and youtube videos,then things changed (read, replacing external validation for internal validation).

The result might be bad but the process is, somewhat of value especially to those deeply plugged in.

[–]CasaDeFranco27 points28 points  (32 children) | Copy

TD;DR Worked like a dog and built my own startup which I am selling now.

I started my own technology startup, made $0 for the first few years, grew the team, raised investment from venture capital and strategic partners, got listed on Forbes and now I'm going through an exit.

Before this, I was earning below six figures but saved and decided to make the jump whilst I was in my 20's. It took a lot of hard work, luck, and good timing, and in hindsight was probably one of the best worst decisions I've made. I've written about my startup in a previous post in more depth but it was a technology for OEM's that greatly reduced the supply chain costs of a consumer device, whilst generating additional revenue using a B2B SaaS model.

Compensation wise I'm in the $200k's, I know I can get more given I'll be working mostly in the Bay Area but I have a good work-life balance, I travel a lot with work and I'm on track for advancement unless I decide to maybe start another company. That said, even with an exit and a good salary, I live within my means, I don't drive an expensive car and live frugally, I travel using economy and don't have too many expensive toys. Money is really a means to an end, freedom, but you can do that without creating a business, in fact it's probably easier to track through corporate by working more than 80% of the folks which isn't hard as most leave at 5:05pm.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (26 children) | Copy

I want to be an entrepreneur so bad. Something to slave and put serious hours into, a passion, knowing if I put in the hard yakka I will be successful. Whatever that means. Any tips?

[–]CasaDeFranco9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy

Join a pre series B start, get a salary, join at growth stage, cut your teeth and you’re awarded equity for a future exit or IPO. Honestly being an entrepreneur is pretty shit, it’s stressful and 99% not worth the investment. I could have worked for McKinsey for the same hours and been awarded a similar compensation in total without the risk.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

i'm in australia, so i dont really have the silicon valley oppurtunities someone in the US would

[–]CasaDeFranco3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Mate, I am also. You got where the opportunity is. I consider myself Aussie but technically born elsewhere. I’ve been away for awhile though.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

youre australia?

[–]jackandjill223 points4 points  (20 children) | Copy

It's not fun. That's a tip.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (19 children) | Copy

I'm willing to put in the work though.

[–]jackandjill223 points4 points  (18 children) | Copy

People really don't get this shit tbh. I've had tons of people my age say the exact same words & most of them are fucked up.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (17 children) | Copy

Well if I knew I had to work 100 hours a week for two years to become a millionaire I would. It's just the risk of time being sunk into what may become a failure which I guess entrepreneurship is all about.

[–]jackandjill222 points3 points  (16 children) | Copy

It's way more complicated than that bro. Like alot more. There are 2 fundamental things people don't understand:

Money isn't easy. Unless you're selling drugs it just doesn't stack itself. It's tightly regulated & controlled & people sue & betray close friends for it.

There isn't a clear path. You have to do something right. It doesnt drop from the sky it isn't some straightforward road towards it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (15 children) | Copy

So you're saying don't bother?

[–]jackandjill221 point2 points  (12 children) | Copy

No. I'm just saying be realistic.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy

I want to be rich so bad. I want a Tesla 3 performance but I can't afford it.

[–]baron_vladimir-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

As an entrepreneur myself (kinda hate that word), I guess what he's saying is that you either have it or you don't.

If you're in it for the money, then stop right now and go get a job and climb the corporate ladder. It's way easier and your chances of making money are higher.

If you really love grinding away and putting everything into a project you believe in, then do so. Tips? Fail early and learn from your mistakes.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I made an online business before where I'd make $600 a day but I just don't know how to work AdWords which killed me. Need to get back into it.

[–]Giagle-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Same

[–]jackandjill221 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

So, what in trying to figure out is if you committed securities fraud or managed to sell false hope to people long enough to sell off a company valued at something not nearly what it's worth to escape responsibilities before the bottom fell out.

Besides Saas, thats so vague. There's amillion of those around & most of the time no-one can explain wtf they do other than "cloud services".

[–]CasaDeFranco1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

The company generated a revenue, depending on the industry multiplier the company will be valued at annual revenue x multiplier. It’s not fraud, it’s business.

And no, I’m not going into specifics so I don’t dox myself.

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You don't understand what I'm saying. Also, sure.. I'm sure your company was Salesforce or something.

[–]CasaDeFranco1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't understand because you're unable to communicate clearly.

I've already been verified by the mods for my previous post, all you've done is detract from this conversation.

[–]mickenrorty6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

I don’t think I’m very successful compared to many, but I make about $180K pre tax and bs... I drive a sports car, I own my own apartment, I’ve worked in tech as a software engineer/project manager/advisor for a large tech company...

I’m currently working hard so i can exit the industry... and I really don’t earn enough to do that comfortably... gonna need to start my own company soon I think.

I got there from hard work at uni; hard work at work... 9-5, for the past decade.... best years of my life traded away for money... it’s still better than most jobs like ever... If my family were wealthy and I could take more risks... I would have

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That's my goal too. I want to start my own company as well, but only when I become a more experienced engineer, thinking 4 to 5 years would be ok. It would be a fallback plan in case my business terribly fails. They say that 80% of all startups fail, right?

However I wouldn't plan to completely quit the industry. I'd switch to consulting. 2 days a week if possible. You can work on your startup or just enjoy the free time.

[–]RuthlessAndMotivated6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

TRP much like anything else you strive for in life requires a level of effort and dedication, successful people aren't red pilled and being red pilled doesn't make you successful. People that are successful and well off typically have some level of either; luck, dedication, drive, knowledge or just a case of being in the correct social circle.

The red pill for the most part is meaningless however its all about what you take away from it and how you interpret it. Reading the bible every day won't change your life however depending on how you interpret each page and what you take away from it? It could very well inspire you to change your life.

At the end of the day it's about the drive and willingness you have deep down in yourself to make changes, it's still simple though, ask for a raise, look for a better job, get further education, book yourself on that course for that certification that makes you more qualified or whatever. You have to make the effort and start moving your life forward, no book, teaching or magic spell is going to do that for you.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I am someone you can an exception. Although my success is not something mind-blowing, but I have been working at a Fortune 70 company as a Software Engineer since I was 20.

I don't have a college degree, I chose to skip college and just study everything myself. It took me about a year to fill my resume with projects and relevant skills.

Job search was pretty hard, until I threw in some bullshit freelance experience on my resume and changed my immigrant name to a more American variant. To a certain degree it was the Red Pill that pushed me to really understand the game and gave me enough confidence to take action on it. If there are plenty of blue pills when it comes to relationships with women, same must hold true for other things in life, right?

Although I am not making 6 figures (close to, though), I am happy to have been able to avoid student debt I'd end up accruing, had I chose the traditional college path, and start working in the industry and saving money this early.

It has been pretty taxing on other areas of my life though. Initially because of a long commute, now because of working my ass off in preparation for a job switch. So not much social life outside of work and zero dating. Hope it's going to get better in the future.

[–]MoneyStreet9414 points15 points  (26 children) | Copy

Not chasing women gives you a lot of "free time" and "mental capacity". I started my second business April last year. We did 300k in revenue in 2019, will do around 1 Million in 2020. I do not have time for drama with women. Just find your mission

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

What is your business?

[–]MoneyStreet944 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Currently marketing services but I will transform this into an Investment holdings company 2021 / 2022

[–]Filmguy000[S] 2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy

Did you come from a single mom who would was making 10k a year for almost 15 years? Im not trying to talk shit. Good luck to you and I hope you succeed. But there is truth to being privileged vs. not. Thats my point.

[–]MoneyStreet942 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

My mother does not work she is depressed with suicide risk she has been her whole life. She's in an asylum. Didn't have any contact to her for 2 years so yes I am privileged as fuck

[–]Filmguy000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sorry to hear that. Good Luck.

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[–]Scared_Dare222 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

For the majority; the socio economic class you grew up in is where you’ll land as an adult.

[–]Filmguy000[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Because when you grow up in poverty, you aren't afforded the "follow your dream" lifestyle. Especially when you're dream costs money to pursue. You're stuck having to go straight to work to survive. Sure some are able to make it out through some circumstantial luck. But there are also many intelligent people and hardworking people that never are able to break out because the cards are stacked too hard against them.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Nope. I grew up in poverty. Drunk ass pops would blow his money in the poker machine on payday, and his friend that was a bank manager would float him rent, but then we would have to go 5 or 6 months without power cooking all the food my brother and i got from the food bank on a wood stove after collecting driftwood or downed lumber from the woods nearby (NW oregon coastal town).

Moms wasn't much better, being an 80's Debbie coke addict. Moved out onto the streets at 16. Spent the winter of '96 sleeping under a tarp in a hole in the ground I dug out by the creek, older brother spent the winter in a laundry room in the hood we were living in before we left moms.

older borther's a CPA making 90k/year, but he spends most of his money on liabilities.

I stack assets making 20% less than him with a net worth in the 6 digits after paying off student loans, despite getting zeroed out in a divorce 4 years ago and finishing the last 2 terms sleeping in a tent down the hill from the campus with the rest of my shit in a storage unit, all the while paying 33% of my NET income in child support and holding down a place in San Jose, CA; arguably the most expensive place in the country to live.

You're just a faggot making faggot excuses. Take control of your life. Where does the power to control the direction of your life lie when you conveniently adopt excuses for your predicament? Hint: outside of your control.

Stop believing the faggotty victimhood rhetoric. That's for women, complainers, and quitters. Only losers have that mindset. You'll never meet a successful person that spends all their time ruminating on what DIDNT happen for them. Successful people focus on what CAN happen ahead of them. It's as simple as that.

Why anyone is upvoting your excuse making victimhood-based drivel on a red pill forum is beyond me. Total faggot shit. The premise behind your initial post reeks of hipster faggot bullshit.

[–]Filmguy000[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

If what you say is true, then all your shit talk makes sense. You're obviously not a dumb person. But you're an angry little boy living in a man's body. I actually feel bad for you, believe it or not. But keep ballin', my fellow faggot.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm not the one that falls for blaming the world for the situation one finds themselves in.

The world doesn't owe you anything. The natural result of standing around doing nothing of value, is having nothing of value.

If you were air dropped onto a foreign planet having nothing would be the natural state of things. Would it be the planet's fault for not rendering unto you a bounty of stuff to have to your heart's desire?

Poverty is just that; allowing random circumstance to dictate to you, what you get from this world. Stop being a pussy ass bitch blaming the world for your lack of direction. You claim to be red pilled, but you're still trying to bargain with reality. Reality doesn't negotiate. It just is.

[–]MoneyStreet941 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

And to clarify: I did not post the exact revenue numbers for bragging. I know they are not that high. That was not the point of my answer so stop shittesting

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[–]sehns3 points4 points  (7 children) | Copy

Also "Revenue" .. doesn't mean much if your margins only 7%, or even in the negatives. Anyone who understands business knows that revenue is always the brag number and doesn't mean anything

[–]MoneyStreet942 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Talking about margins if you are focused on growth is a waste of time. We can do around 40-50% margin as soon as we stop to focus on growth.

[–]Jowemaha-1 points0 points  (5 children) | Copy

Lol not at all. Revenue is the single most referenced number in business. You are bullshitting.

[–]sehns0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Cool, so i'm waiting for the part where you break down my point and prove me wrong. Go right ahead.

[–]Jowemaha-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

Nothing in your point to break down. You're just wrong. Many companies have no accounting earnings but they have revenue and earnings potential. In that case revenue is frequently more indicative of earning power than accounting earnings. So that is a very simple example where revenue is important and "not meaningless."

Again it is also the most cited number in business. Business people are not retards. Salesmen usually have revenue targets to hit which would be strange if it were meaningless for the business

[–]sehns0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

My point was that top line revenue and net are wildly different numbers and the average redditor automatically assumes people boasting these figures are talking about profits. They are not, and there's a massive difference. We're not talking about Airlines or the Fortune 500 we're talking about a guys SME startup. Margin matters. People pulling $1M a year in revenue on a 7-10% margin are making 70-100k a year. But those same guys will boast about "doing 7 figures last year".

[–]MoneyStreet940 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You are right. Where I am from there is a much clearer distinction in words between revenue and profit. I totally get your point and I agree, that revenue alone can be fake as fuck most of the times.

But as already mentioned, this was not abount boasting.

I know I am still a small fish, 99% of companies fail bevore 1 million revenue so I know my place, do not worry.

[–]sehns0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

For the record I don't mean to target you specifically, what you've accomplished is still awesome and totally valid. I was making a general point that tons of guys don't understand and hoping to educate those people because when they see those numbers and get the wrong idea they might feel like losers because they aren't overnight millionaires..

[–]MoneyStreet940 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Not in the first 22 days, for the whole year.

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[–]MoneyStreet940 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Yes sorry english is not my first language. 1 million for 2020 complete

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[–]MoneyStreet94-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

yeah well a lot of shittests coming my way I edited my posting for clarification

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[–]AceMav211 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I really want to do that but I’m always drunk in my free time for no reason.

[–]covertpenguin33902 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You infer in one of your comments that you weren’t “privileged” due to poverty. While it’s true, the rich get to coast through things and are afforded more mistakes as they age, if you’re in America, jumping up socioeconomic classes is pretty easy as long as you work at it from a young age. Don’t have money for college? Then make sure your grades or good or use the military, or go to community college while you work. Don’t have any networking? Join clubs, groups, whatever via school or the internet. Don’t want to pay for a certain skill that you don’t need a degree for? There’s a million books and the whole internet out there where you can essentially learn the worlds knowledge for free.

But yes, being a platinum baller at 21 isn’t feasible for most and guys on a podcast are either the exception or putting up a character to drive their show.

I didn’t come from poverty but my parents didn’t have money for much and never guided me towards anything. Luckily high school sports are free and i made sure to always strive for good grades. Those two things alone (combined with getting a perfect score on one of those college tests, which took a ton of studying) opened up the door to choose literally whatever path i wanted. I chose a military college scholarship program (ROTC) and went to school for pennies on the dollar. I made some mistakes in college that delayed my career but even while i was unfucking that i decided to try out the service industry. All i had to do was work harder than every one else (easy since most are lazy), not steal as a bar tender and be somewhat social and i sky rocketed through the ranks. So even without my college degree and cool current military officer career just by working hard and not being an idiot i could’ve had a decent paying career somewhere else. This isn’t to humble brag, it’s to show that there are many paths and options to at least get you off the ground making enough money to have fun and be secure. Or save up to start a business if that’s your interest. Though i have no experience in that realm.

Get the woe is me I’m not privileged shit out of your head. It makes you sound like a weak faggot that deserves an atomic wedgie and will only enable you to continue making excuses instead of changes.

[–]letmereadthatshit1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Focus on money instead of women why chase girls if you are broke and not happy with your lifestyle

[–]Ed4all151 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just my opinion, but Richard Cooper is more PUA than Redpill.

[–]i-am-the-prize1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

what you find is the ability to put yourself first, translates into gainz beyond just in the gym and with slaying poon - it allows you to put effort and seek results in business, too.

I've consulted for people with potential early in their businesses, millionaires, many deca-millionaires, and one Billionaire. The winners had the ability to focus and push their vision forward, their Frame, was the dominant one, when it was time to hit the gas pedal.

Sure, they listened to smart people around them, took in data and insight, but when it was time to decide, they did so and then they ACTED.

It's agnostic RP detached from poon. yet it translates well to the poon/attractive side of RP.

Now, there are plenty of high earners who are absolute BB/needy losers. So being financially successful is no guarantee of being RP'd.

But, I will say that if you are RP, you're a natural for being either a freelancer, bus.owner, or an employee who is strong in their footing for "abundance" and picking/choosing their employer ("I am not theirs, it's just their turn")

[–]TheIGKing1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think it’s the other way around.

I think people who are entrepreneurial focused from a young age are more attracted to red pill theories as they get older. I don’t think a lot of people first discover the red pill and then decide to become entrepreneurs.

I think a big portion of the red pill audience are high energy, driven people who come together to discuss ideas. I think only a small percentage of the people here who give advice were “losers” who then later became driven and successful. That’s how it seems to me.

I’ve been naturally entrepreneurial since age 12. I started lifting weights my sophomore year in high school, and I never gave that up. I had D1 scholarships lined up in two different sports as I finished high school. I’m 24 now, and I started my 6 figure marketing company in 2016. I first discovered red pill literature in 2017, and I fully swallowed the pill in late 2018. In early 2019, the red pill benefited me a lot with my recent breakup with my then-LTR. I only was interested in relationship dynamics back then. I’m not the kind of guy that needed a lot of the advice that the red pill offers, but once I started figuring out how everything worked together, my eyes were opened and everything made sense.

People gravitate towards information that applies to them. A lot of the red pill literature is focused towards people who already have their life together, which may be the reason why a ton of the people offering advice here may sometimes seem full of shit, because the people answering questions are disproportionately successful compared to the general population.

But also, some people are just full of shit. Tread lightly.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

[–]redpillbanana0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I see you saved the best advice for last.

[–]noserotoninforu0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I did it by getting into a dying trade.

[–]daymi0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

To know my worth and ask for what I want. You'd be surprised how much you can get when you just ask (or, really, woo) the right people.

In the end I don't flaunt it. If they do flaunt it, you'd have to ask why.

[–]Sin-Silver0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

A huge part if the red pill involves radically changing ones lifestyle and goals. this includes your career and income, so naturally peoples financial situation improves as part of it.

[–]RedPillAlphaBigCock0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Don’t trust any you tuber - these fuckers will do anything to to sell a fake story of success

However - the red pill when applied properly let’s you see REALITY and take responsibility for everything- these 2 things combined with lifting and seeing women as equals and not on a pedestal will be an amazing foundation for success

[–]oldguy_19810 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It’s about personal investment, discipline, dedication, and “extreme ownership.” A man on a mission is a powerful force. There are a lot of ways to make money, no one size fits all solution.

If you seriously take time to invest in yourself, develop marketable skills, be disciplined, and have a good work ethic, the American dream really does exist. The Red Pill preaches all of these things so people who really buy in (and not the bullshit artists you often find on various social media) should translate well to success financially.

[–]TRP Vanguardnicethingyoucanthave0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

One thing to keep in mind: if you are poor (or physically unattractive, for that matter), and you try to have a youtube channel talking about TRP it wont matter that everything you say is true, people will just ridicule you for not being perfect.

[–]Scared_Dare220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

After I discovered TRP and got past the unplugging and anger, I was able to see the world clearly and understood that working hard to become successful would improve my life. 3 years ago I was making maybe 30k a year now I’m over 6 figures because I decided to work 3x as hard because I understand where this can land me in the future.

I also discovered financial independence and the FIRE movement which was more a kick in the ass tbh.

Besides having way more cash flow, I have to organize my time better and be very vigilant how I spend it. Working 70 hours a week I have never been in better shape and getting laid is child’s play.

Tl dr: trp is a piece of the puzzle and success roller balls ?

[–]ghosts_of_me0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Confirmation bias.

Those who are in the position to drop everything and simply become a youtuber are already financially well off.

[–]LeatherBoundWisdom0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Redpill training produces a lot of growth in a highly valuable skill set, people skills. It also aligns you to be as productive and self-focused as you can. That combination immediately gives you more value in practically any field.

[–]Shortbull0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I am 20 and have a business with two others, BUT... I have not earned a single pound. The business is focused around digital marketing, so we have the option to outsource too. I have mentioned it a few times on this sub actually

I started it around 12 months after starting TRP, but was lazy with it and so didn't really start any proper groundwork until Summer last year. All I did was make the business in August 2018 so at the moment not much.

Its only been the last 8 weeks we have been ready to go and earn some money by getting our first clients so at the moment it has done precisely nothing for me. Although, many people ask what I am doing in life and I say "Im working on a business bla bla" and they think I am making big bucks, some are passive aggressive about it and some I can see wish they were in my 'position' but really that position is a website and some drafted contracts. I have no clients. I have no leads.

I have a business but I don't have a business. TRP encouraged me to seek alternative means to income than a 9-5. Just slowly build value, believe me I am no fucking expert, but half of it was just opening it motivating myself.

I kind of feel like shit because there are 90 day courses from 0 to $10000 and I have been sort of working on it for nearly a year and a half without a penny to show for it. Probably about -150 actually.

[–]Pimp_my_table0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The only people I know who have their own business are tradesmen

Two guys in this thread reach music. Did you start before you were 10? No? Then you'll never be good enough to teach others unless it's "rock band" stuff that no one can tell how bad you are.

Worn paths or no path. Being a big enough internet presence to sell your fantasy garbage I'd what most internet entrepreneurs are.

[–]Zanford0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

RP does tell you not to waste a bunch of money on women, so that certainly helps preserve and build personal wealth.

'Fake it til you make it' is a RP tenet and it gets in guy's heads and so they start blowing smoke everywhere.

B/c career success is so drilled in to me (BP and RP alike) as the measure of a man's worth and key requirement to sexual success, every chode out there talks up his personal situation to make it sound fancy. 'Has his own business' could mean he mowed lawns for the neighbors in high school.

This goes triple for any guy who is trying to sell you something, especially if it's a lifestyle, they all present themselves as ballers. The Return of Kings site had a lot of this, with chodes giving themselves handles like 'Tha G' and writing articles about their awesome nightclub baller lifestyle and plugging their own e-books for sale.

[–]redpillbanana0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

TRP is not a solution to poverty.

However if you're able to see through the bullshit that society is feeding you then you'll probably be able to see through most other types of bullshit.

At worst, this is a skill that will save you money, and at best, it will make you rich.

Note that this includes being able to see through the bullshit that these self-proclaimed "TRP experts" are feeding you.

[–]alpha_bravado0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Guys like Rich Cooper charge 1000s for questionable coaching... hes always trying to push something on those shoes. Tactical soap etc.

[–]vullnet1230 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I know a guy who has a "business". Dude it's mostly Bullshit. Doesn't take much to open up a website selling whatever shit you have. Ill start claiming I have a business from selling shit in eBay

[–]WiterS20 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It made me poorer. When I discovered that I can get women without spending a cent, I stopped making the effort I was making to get richer. Now, I repent, and I'm trying to fix it.

I'm poorer than I would be if I stayed blue pilled.

[–]Kabuki4310 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

In a way yes. I refocused on who i was and what i was good at. Getting back to the person I was and focusing on what I did best. Which was making money

Focusing on oneitis destroyed me financially and emotionally. So yeah i owe RP a big one

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Pretty much. Poverty aint a life sentance. Its the natural result of being a passive little bitch willingly accepting whatever scraps someone that undervalues your time is lowballing you with. Which, in and of itself is a reverberation and reflection/projection of how much you value yourself.

So, to answer your snarky ass tongue in cheek question, it does solve poverty despite what your faggotty ass teachers tell you in school these days.

Now, once you've improved your income, whether or not you become wealthy depends on how self disciplined you are in accruing assets and avoiding purchasing liabilities. Theres a large middle ground between "impoverished" and "wealthy" despite income stratification. Most americans are too stupid to know the difference between an asset and a liability, so when they improve their income they accrue liabilities that they think are assets, then they wonder why they see themselves as poor despite being nowhere near impoverished.

Deciphering what i just told you is another red pill/blue pill dichotomy. Here's hoping you have the mettle to see what im sayin.

[–]Filmguy000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Now, once you've improved your income, whether or not you become wealthy depends on how self disciplined you are in accruing assets and avoiding purchasing liabilities. Theres a large middle ground between "impoverished" and "wealthy" despite income stratification. Most americans are too stupid to know the difference between an asset and a liability, so when they improve their income they accrue liabilities that they think are assets, then they wonder why they see themselves as poor despite being nowhere near impoverished.

Agreed.

Its the natural result of being a passive little bitch willingly accepting whatever scraps someone that undervalues your time is lowballing you with. Which, in and of itself is a reverberation and reflection/projection of how much you value yourself.

Ignorant.

[–]red_matrix0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I think a lot of those guys are “selling a lifestyle”, meaning you are the customer consuming their content. They’re all essentially repackaging Rollo’s “The Rational Male”. And they aren’t 21, they’re all over 45.

[–]Filmguy000[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

True. And yes, I was talking more about all the new stuff that's popping up with the younger wannabe dudes. There's also the one dude from Rule Zero, the guy with the aviators that lives in Japan I think. Not a fan of him.

I really like Rollo a lot though. He has been very consistent and sure, he is taking advantage of his growing popularity by making money. Good for him. But he is very pragmatic and realistic with his material. That's why whenever he had those fuckboy type guests, that would be all "yeah, I fuck wives and girlfriends, yo!", it kinda cheapens his image.

[–]red_matrix0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I would just stick to his book. Rich Cooper and Dr Shawn are okay too. But other than that, it’s just entertainment.

[–]SavorThePill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

People flexing on the internet again. Everybody lies.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (4 children) | Copy

Move to a third world country lol

[–]volvostupidshit5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

Yes. Come here and we'll do some business ventures together.

[–]ialreadyreadit333-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'm curious about going into business in third world. What advice would you give?

[–]okuli1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Previous comment was obviously sarcastic. You'll lose all your money. Only go there after you've been successful in your country and have reliable partners. But even then there's a high chance of being taken advantage of.

There's a reason why it's a third world country: legal system doesn't work and corruption everywhere. It will kill almost everything.

[–]ialreadyreadit3330 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

In the past I knew someone who did a lot of very lucrative business in central African states...

There is a lot of money to be made there.



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