16 Things You Should Know Before Dating a Woman Who Has Her Shit Together

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Title 16 Things You Should Know Before Dating a Woman Who Has Her Shit Together
Author 1independentmale
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Date 20 April 2015 07:14 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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[–]thereticle 60 points60 points [recovered] | Copy

sigh just another laundry list of commands to obey like a good little boy.

"Things you should know before dating a woman who takes lists like these seriously"

1: DON'T

[–]bitterRedpills15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy

I expect a steak on the table, a beer in my hand and your lips on my cock every night when I walk through that door

I don't know when it will happen, but I am going to engineer a situation where this sentence is applicable and use it.

[–]3409852034 11 points11 points [recovered] | Copy

To be suggested that you could "learn something" from that article is not only rude, ill-mannered, and deeply entitled, but it is also beyond arrogant. That compounds with the contents of the article itself, especially since the suggestion to learn something was delivered meekly, but the words in the article are shouting arrogance and entitlement. It speaks to a deeply-embedded mindset. Which is I guess another way of saying it's a shit test.

That said, good job with the analysis and handling the situation.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Exactly. My first thought after reading the first 5 entries was "if she really believes that crap, I sincerely hope for OP that he can replace her on a whim because she's practically begging for it".

[–]3409852034 2 points2 points [recovered] | Copy

I agree. I think I have a short fuse today, but the situation irritated me (on OP's behalf).

OP's girl is implying he should shape up and behave as she expects. It's even more galling since the suggestions are not for OP's betterment, or to improve their relationship, but for her benefit. She doesn't even have the courage to come out and state her expectations openly.

I'd be mortified to suggest something like this so passive-aggressively to anyone I respect. The whole thing has an air of complacency and superiority. When those attitudes leak into a relationship, it's hard to recover the respect.

What's more, I'd wager that in her mind she already thinks she can do better. Why else would you have the nerve to send something like this? Is the article is a warning shot? Perhaps it's not that dramatic - maybe she's just testing the waters to see what she can milk from OP.

Lately, I've been trying to run these situations through a gender-equalization test. If OP wasn't fucking her, would he put up with a random girl sending him this? What about a guy meekly saying "check out this article" with advice that clearly indicates OP should turn his life around? Would you send a list of management tips to your boss, or your colleagues? It's passive-aggressive and disrespectful, and takes nerve to even suggest this.

No disrespect OP, but she seems like a low-value woman. You destroyed her shit test, but keep your eyes open.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I agree. I think I have a short fuse today, but the situation irritated me (on OP's behalf)[...] It's even more galling since the suggestions are not for OP's betterment, or to improve their relationship, but for her benefit.

Well said - it's another laundry list of "stuff men should do for women because they're so awesome". Every time I read drivel like this I wonder how it did come to this - that women are so wonderful that they deserve to be pampered exclusively while men have to be so happy that they got one that they have to do everything to keep her. There wasn't even a single fucking line in that stupid list what a "woman who has her shit together" can do for him.

(and when reading this, I also wonder where (self-identified) bluepillers take the balls from to claim that our culture doesn't pedestalize women)

[–]1independentmale[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

OP's girl is implying he should shape up and behave as she expects.

That's exactly right.

I know where this is coming from: I've been running a lot of dread lately. I used to do a lot of those cute boyfriend things girls love so much, but that was back when she used to charm me. She's become complacent over the past several months and has been demanding more and more of me while simultaneously giving less, so I've taken a big step back.

I know I can do better. Hotter, younger girls hit on me frequently enough that I'm not worried about upgrading her. If her past relationships are any indication, I'm the best guy she's ever going to have. So I'm giving her the opportunity to realize this and turn the charm back up. Otherwise, we'll drift apart and break up. Either way I'm cool.

We don't live together so this is all very easy for me.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

lol at the contradiction:

  1. she wants you to make plans
  2. be specific
  3. make decisions
  4. feminist
  5. won't be dicked around

so yeah decide everything, but nothing

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

My thoughts exactly.

Take everything (inlcuding responsibility) out of her hands, but don't be obvious about it.

[–][deleted] 10 points10 points | Copy

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[–]pahispua6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hah, nice work keeping frame!

[–]cock_pussy_up4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

Men generally don't care what degrees women have or how much money they make. I know this is a difficult concept for some people, but men and women are attracted to different things.

Example: A good looking, sweet, 18 yo female virgin is very desirable to men. But a good looking, sweet, 18 yo male virgin is considered a gay uber-loser by women.

Likewise, women may be attracted to a man with a masters degree and good-paying job. Men, on the other hand, don't really gaf about a woman's degree or job, and judge women on other criteria.

[–]Jigsus0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Sorry but I care if she has an education or not.

[–]drunkandstoned3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Why? I care if she's intelligent, but not if she's been indoctrinated at university.

[–]Jigsus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Because it shows she is able to complete something as simple as getting a degree.

[–]balanq5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Mate, this is actually real advice. All i read from this article was:

  • Be a leader. A competent leader.

  • Give me attention. I'm important.

It doesn't matter if she "has her shit together", every woman wants to be taken care of like a little girl, but made feel like a big girl. If she's pointing something out to you, ignore the materialistic shit and try to understand what feels she's getting from it.

Oh and don't hold women to the same standards you hold yourself. You'll only be disappointed.

[–]scamper_221 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Time for a mini rant. Maybe it's morning and this resonated with me, but here it goes.

There's this show called Scandal. For whatever reason, quite a few women in my life watch this show. It's not a bad show as far as shows go, but there at times I am literally repelled by this show.

The main reason being everyone in the show gives a self-righteous speech every 5 minutes. It's like they lost the art of dialogue.

It wouldn't be so bad except their speeches have so little bearing on reality. This is especially true of the main star (Olivia Pope).

This women is literally not a good person. She's as flawed, corrupt, evil, disloyal, cheating, manipulative... as any of the other characters on the show. Maybe that's the point (God let it be the point... because it would restore some faith in the writers). But here's what drives me mad, somehow in the show she still sees herself as a self-righteous warrior. Then to top it off, half the characters in the show act as if she is this righteous warrior. It's like living in looney ville.

Having a flawed main character is not exactly a new thing. I've been watching Mad Men too and Don Draper is definitely a flawed character. Sure, you watch the show and can appreciate his allure lets say, but no one is going to celebrate his family values or think he is fighting for justice. It's just a tale of his journey in life.

Perhaps it is that Olivia Pope is meant to be this women who has it together. She's the go-to top dog of Washington Politics in the show. She wants nothing more than to come home and be pampered.

But here's the thing. She is truly a horrible person. Yet she is celebrated on the show by everyone, despite her actions in the show being simply horrible and corrupt in both her personal and work career. She's so messed up, she has to create an alternate identity in her head with some guy she just met, just so she can have casual sex with him without it being complicated.

It's not like the show doesn't have good people worth celebrating. There's a new female VP who really does care about politics and doing good for America. Fuck, make her a popular character, because she is actually someone with morals.

Yet, people in the show and those watching, must celebrate Olivia because she is the women who has it together. I don't know I just find it so interesting. Why the show has to make her as a person seem wanted and great and a warrior for justice, when she is simply not.

Did some research, this is the same producer who does Grey's Anatomy, How To Get Away With Murder...

It really is women living in looney ville. Lord, I hope this producer is conscious of how these characters are and she knows she is toying with viewers :P There is a shield placed around certain women characters in the shows, that no matter what their actions, they are still viewed in the show as good people who can do no wrong.

It's kind of funny.

[–]Redrog11 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

This read more like: how I as a woman wish I was but I'm not.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

  1. Don't do dumb shit on social media, like post photos with other girls. She will see it and won't be impressed. She is not in the business of being made jealous because you went out with your boys and took a picture with the bartender.

Oh yeah, but flip the script when she takes pics out with the girls dressed up like street walkers and there's some guy(s) in the picture.. Then you're just an insecure jealous little man.

That or do what I prefer to do.. Don't even bring it up, keep hitting that pussy til something better comes along, then leave her on the side of the road for some BB scavenger to snatch up.

[–]ChokedOnRP1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

9) Don't have dinner with her with your phone on the table. Being on your phone with anyone while at any meal of the day is just plain rude. Plus, she's just as busy as you are—if not more so—and she managed to make time for this date.

A woman with her shit together dates up, not down. As OP points out, they dont actually tell you what having your shit together means, allowing the feminists reading this to convince themselves this applies to them.

Yet, if she truly 'has her shit together', no doubt she's snagged some dude working an equally hard, more likely an even harder job. Oh, and he's already got the shit end of the stick because he has no pussypass to make his life easier, so 100% of the time he will be more busy than her.

One need only look at the image of a 'strong independent black womyn' at the top with bonus exotic bird haircut to see this is bound to be full of shit, and it is.

[–]1independentmale[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yet, if she truly 'has her shit together', no doubt she's snagged some dude working an equally hard, more likely an even harder job.

Exactly my point. I work far more hours than she does in a significantly more demanding position and make twice the money. She thinks she has it hard and needs me to do all this extra pampering? Bitch please.

Don't get me wrong, I think my girl is a catch. She does work hard. She pays her own bills. All the fancy clothes and shoes and jewelry and bags that she rocks, she bought that. However, and I don't mean to sound like an arrogant ass, but I'm going to anyway: I'm better. Her SMV ain't shit compared to mine. She's dating up and she knows it, but she's become complacent and is throwing more and more shit tests lately. So I'm running dread, destroying her tests and just doing me while planning for a future without her.

[–]thedude1224871 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is what I actually said: "Sounds high maintenance."

Yep. You didn't need to say any of that other shit because it was completely implied by that single statement, and she picked up on it.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I should really make a post based on these shitty clickbait stories titled "Why third wave feminism-free riding millenials are the worst".

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Women love to top from the bottom.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

  1. She wants you to make plans. (She wants you to lead.)

  2. And please, be specific. (When giving commands, give details.)

  3. She also wants you to make decisions. (She wants to you lead.)

  4. She's a feminist. (Don't talk about the red pill, don't debate her using logic. Red pill actions speak louder than words.)

  5. She won't put up with being dicked around. (When you plate her, tell her you're keeping your options open.)

  6. She won't sugar-coat anything. (If you lose frame, she'll shit test the hell out of you.)

  7. She's not impressed by your band. (You need to keep your frame, and keep the things that you enjoy before the relationship, even if she disapproves.)

  8. She expects you to actually listen to her

  9. Don't have dinner with her with your phone on the table. (As a man, you're the grown-up in this relationship, you need to set a good example.)

  10. She wants you to call her. (She enjoys missing you, it's frustrating, it's feelz. However whatever you do don't phone her all the time. Neediness is ugly.)

  11. And if you do text, respond in a timely manner. (Which is when you feel like it; you are not at her beck and call.)

  12. She is not a commitment-phobe and doesn't want to date one either. (Don't go on dates. Make sure you're af and not bb. Make sure she understands her role in your life.)

  13. But don't bring her to meet your parents unless you think you have a real future together. (Mental note: never let my girlfriend meet my parents)

  14. Don't do dumb shit on social media, like post photos with other girls. (Don't do social media unless you're networking for work.)

  15. She wants you to be spontaneous. (Understand women work by feelz, not logic.)

  16. Do what you say you're going to do. (She looks to you for emotional stability)

[–]Transmigratory0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Remember to them, feels matter more than facts.

Recall how feminists said science was sexist because not enough attention was paid to fluids...

[–]thedude1224870 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She's not impressed by your band.

Yeah if you're mediocre, which most bands are. If you're good then she will get the tingles.

[–]SmallEyesRoughSkin-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

Well, that was your first mistake, reading the article. Obviously it should have gone like this: Read title, see black girl face and kind of grimace back at it. Huge Nose and Teeth. Kinda cute forehead and eyes, though, fine. Title, ok, gotcha, yeah, I just got done distancing myself from a girl who calls everything she doesn't understand crazy and goes from one tragedy to the next, fine, Cool title lets go. Read the first part of each one, the bold dark text. 1,2,3,4 And on like that till the end.

I read the whole thing through. I mean, not the actual whole article but the first sentence of each numbered suggestion. If that's what's required fine. It's much too boring right now for me to focus on, whatever. Economics!.... Away!



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