Do men REALLY like “good girls”?

Jip_Jaap_Stam · 2020-02-05T00:03:58+00:00

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darksoldierk · 2020-02-05T01:30:01+00:00

> If this is the case, why have SO many of my sweet, “innocent” friends gotten cheated on? Treated like shit and abused?

Because:

> Women like selfish badboys who show they don’t care

See, every person alive is selfish and doesn't care about others at some point in their lives. It's a unique type of person that is selfish and doesn't care all of the time. Women only see a small portion of the male population as sexual beings, as potential mating partners. Those men don't have a hard time getting female attention. Women have this fantasy that a person can be one way to some, and completely different to them, they think they can change others. They can't. So what you get is the majority of women going after the "selfish badboys who show they don't care" thinking that those guys will change for them, those men don't change, and the women get treated like shit.

finch2200 · 2020-02-05T00:04:26+00:00

It could be argued that your friends’ relationships are examples of the “girls only go for bad boys” stereotype. Have they ever tried to date guys that are as nice as they are?

LikeNever · 2020-02-05T01:05:09+00:00

I’ve only been in LTRs with good girls. It was they who didn’t want me, preferring bad boys and sociopaths instead. I‘ve had felons take what I thought were good women right off my arm

Million-Suns · 2020-02-05T00:21:05+00:00

There are no "good" girls or good boys. Everyone has a dark side and has screwed somebody over at some point even unintentionally in their life.

I have witnessed so many "good girls" turned into monsters, same for boys.

aphel_ion · 2020-02-05T03:03:49+00:00

why have SO many of my sweet, “innocent” friends gotten cheated on? Treated like shit and abused? One of my friends bought her boyfriend a new gift each week (for his birthday, an entire TRUCK) only for him to fuck a well-known disgusting slut in their bed. Another one of my friends treated her man like a king (putting him way above herself) and STILL cries about him saying vile shit to her.

This is going to sound harsh, but...

I hate to say this, but some people are just asking to be abused and taken for granted. Buying a boyfriend a new gift each week (a pick up truck, for real? as a random weekly gift!?) isn't sweet and innocent, it's FUCKING CRAZY. Your friend isn't doing this because she's sweet and she cares about him, she's doing it because she's super insecure and the only interaction that doesn't make her uncomfortable is "wow thanks for the gift babe you're amazing. I love you so much." And when she doesn't get it quite as much as she needs she starts crying about how he doesn't love and appreciate her enough.

Same with your other friend. Anyone that treats their man like a king and puts him way above herself is inevitably going to throw it back in his face when she gets insecure and doesn't feel like he's reciprocating.

Your friends don't sound like "good girls", they sound like train wrecks. They're insecure women who are impossible to please. They are probably also constantly picking the wrong men because they're just drawn to whatever dude feeds them the most saccharine lines and ridiculous promises.

Red__Blue · 2020-02-05T00:08:00+00:00

Gal's got a choice, she picked an ass.

Happens more often than not: to the point where guys think they have to learn from that guy.

decoy88 · 2020-02-05T00:17:30+00:00

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Workaholiconew · 2020-02-04T23:52:42+00:00

Most men like women (for LTRs) who are:

Reasonable
Sexually satisfying
Not a bother/nuisance

This is the minimum. If you have the 3 you gonna attract almost all men.

But most good girls (like most women), when they get male attention, they choose having sex/relationships with men with the dark triad traits. Why? none is sure, some say it is bad luck, some say they like it by nature, but it just happens.

She had the choice, and chose badly. What can I say? Better luck next time?

Women who are really "good" are full of options. They just choose badly.

Pontifex_Lucious-II · 2020-02-05T00:01:45+00:00

I think this is some form of apex fallacy. Alpha dudes have their pick of the litter and have the luxury of treating women like shit. Since the majority of female attention is on these dudes, the narrative becomes “men don’t appreciate nice girls”.

Every relationship I’ve ever been in has been with a nice girl. I’m viscerally repulsed by loud, blabbermouth, dominant women who know nothing. It’s an anecdote, so take it with a grain of salt, but nice girls win in the end.

MikeRadical · 2020-02-05T02:53:16+00:00

Girls like bad boys, Boys like good girls.

Good girl gets cheated on by bad boy.

Story checks out. Bad boys cheat.

goneaway2thewind · 2020-02-05T00:27:50+00:00

Aren't you noticing a trend, out of all your friends they're ALL dating bad guys? Because that's the type of men they select for. They can't settle for anything less because if they could they'd leave for other types of men.

In the NFL the players are covered by women. Yet 70% of them get married, but the kicker is that 80% of them get divorced because of male infidelity. I'm assuming the 20% just live with it.

The difference is, a man see's a slut or bimbo as non datable right away because logically that person is a bad choice. They send sexual triggers but men on average are perceptive enough to denounce and avoid.

A woman will see an Alpha that gets many women and still settle with him, almost uncontrollably. All because he sends triggers in her that women clearly cant think beyond.

I don't know how many ways I have to tell you women, if you incentivize men to be players they are going to play. All the average guys you pass up for players learn, bulk up body and resources, then become players themselves. Women red pill men. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

darudeboysandstorm · 2020-02-05T01:23:40+00:00

Are you arguing that your sweet friends went after assholes? I don’t get this, all I got out of this post is you gave pretty dumb friends. Not because they got cheated on, but because they bought someone a truck lol.

SpinPlates · 2020-02-05T02:51:33+00:00

"Women want a bad boy that will be good for her. Men want a good girl who will be bad for him."

At the end of the day both genders just want attractive partners. Personality isn't as important as bluepilled normies make it out to be. As long as the partner isn't just a total peice of shit....and even that doesn't stop some people.

The reason your friends date douche bags is because they are trying to date up in attractiveness. Plenty of less attractive men in your friends DMs on Insta trying to wine and dine her and treat her like royalty but those guys are all 5'8 and chubby so girls ignore them.

bonslytoss · 2020-02-05T02:06:59+00:00

Women like selfish badboys who show they don’t care

You're clearly young, or at least have young friends. Even though a minority of the 18-25 YO men are bad boys, they have all the sex until women grow out of them. After your friends learn to stop going out with the minority of men, things will get better for them.

41013 · 2020-02-05T04:13:24+00:00

People of either gender don’t respect the desperate or doormats. Those who trust and give blindly get taken advantage of.

wekacuck · 2020-02-04T23:59:23+00:00

the few female dumpees I know ALL fit the “sweet girl” image.

You don't know what these girls are like in private. They're probably monsters like Amber Heard etc.

throwitaway314592654 · 2020-02-05T00:18:01+00:00

Absolutely yes. But they have to be physically attractive.

Jip_Jaap_Stam · 2020-02-05T09:01:46+00:00

Woman: It's so unfair! I really want a dog, but every time I get one, it bites me!

Beta: That sucks. Is it a particular breed you're going for, perhaps.

Woman: Well, I only like the wild ones. You know, big, strong, lean, beautiful long fur, piercing eyes. They do the cool howling thing and don't give a fuck.

Beta: So you're only getting wolves?

Woman: Yeah, so?

Beta: Why not go for a nice labrador or border collie? Something manageable but loving and loyal.

Woman: Ugh, that's so boring! I need an exciting, dangerous dog that impresses everyone. I'm sure I can tame one if I keep trying!

Beta: Hmm.

2020-02-04T23:59:59+00:00

They get stomped on because they choose the wrong men. Most women do.

How I define good girl. Honest , loyal, hard working, affectionate, frugal, initiates, tells me exactly what she want. Doesnt buy me gifts. A few more.

Physiologist21 · 2020-02-05T00:56:02+00:00

Hard to say.

I am "older" and back in the days, well ... YES, we did like and sough "good girls", that's why we were trained and became "nice guys". Of course not everyone, but most guys for a LTR we looked for the "good girls".

Fast forward a few decades, 2 marriages, 2 divorces, therapy and all . . . it's a different world out there, IMO the notion of "good girl" is no longer a valid one.

VexingTetrimino · 2020-02-05T00:51:27+00:00

not if those "good girls" stay with their men without the men having to work for them. remember--

Behavior Driver #1: People want what they can't have

Behavior Driver #2: (at a distant 2nd) People don't value what comes easy

this idea is true for men, women, kids, and everybody in between. young, old, rich, poor, up, down, left, right, select start.

distilled down even further:

people love the chase yo

LotBuilder · 2020-02-05T01:12:59+00:00

Nobody likes to be bored. “Nice guys” and “good girls” are boring. That’s their real problem.

The_Mole_Dizzle · 2020-02-04T23:57:13+00:00

women casually ignore what men actually are like, if the man has high testosterone, he is more likely to "cheat" if you are so offended that he fucks people you are ignoring the reality of human biology

men aren't like women

go pick the beta boy who can't get laid if you want an iron solid foundation and 4 kids

don't pick the alpha male, use your brain for 2 seconds

jfedj · 2020-02-05T03:05:04+00:00

Because anecdotes are a terrible measurement.

P.S. The alpha beta stuff is pseudoscience quackery.

SherbertBacon · 2020-02-05T00:35:23+00:00

If this is the case, why have SO many of my sweet, “innocent” friends gotten cheated on? Treated like shit and abused?

Liking someone and being faithful to them are two different components. Womanizers, for example, love women... they just happen to love more than one and won't be monogamous.

To me it seems like all you get from men from being sweet and giving is taken for granted completely stomped on.

Nah, they just need to be more judicious in who they commit to. There are men out there want something committed and monogamous and can keep their word.

Are my experiences just rare or do men TRULY like good girls?

I love good girls. Being sweet/kind is high up on my list of qualities I find very attractive.

Bntt89 · 2020-02-05T01:04:49+00:00

This question already triggers me, this seems like the equivalent of a "nice guy". Look I think maybe some guys like doormats who do whatever they tell them. But sometimes banter is fun a women having their own hobbies is fun too, even better if we share the same ones. But ya if your just straight up a bitch or crazy like Heard no guy is going to like that, stop pretending like men actually like this shit. If guys are with women like that they probably are manipulating them or something because guys dont like bad guys or some retarded shit.

mydikishomofobik · 2020-02-05T02:41:05+00:00

Your stories provide more evidence of women (including "good girls") choosing assholes. Also the question isn't how men treat good girls, the question is whether decent looking sweet girls have trouble finding boyfriends in the first place. And we all know that the answer to that is "no". Whereas if a guy commits the sin of being nice to a girl while wanting to have sex with her he's a nice guy TM and worse than Adolf Hitler, Pol Pot, Jeffrey Dahmer, and Satan put together. And no girls will date him.

SeemedGood · 2020-02-05T02:57:08+00:00

Maybe because...

Women like selfish badboys who show they don’t care

Five_Decades · 2020-02-05T03:40:21+00:00

Your friends sound like they have low self esteem

87AudreyHorne · 2020-02-05T03:54:13+00:00

One of my friends bought her boyfriend a new gift each week (for his birthday, an entire TRUCK) only for him to fuck a well-known disgusting slut in their bed. Another one of my friends treated her man like a king (putting him way above herself)

No one who doesnt have something huge to compensate for would possibly be trying this hard... probably also explains why they also picked the lamest guys. A lot of desperation here

2020-02-05T04:45:32+00:00

Its not always "girls vs. boys", in this scenario it is usually people recreating their childhood dynamics. Those girls probably had unloving parents who expected them to take on the caretaker role, so dating these types of losers is familiar to them, and they feel a sort of love and chemistry towards them because our brains love patterns.

to answer your question, plenty of men like good girls, especially those who were raised in healthy, loving households. I do believe it is critically important for women to work on being assertive though, which is a quality both men and women admire.

Pastelitomaracucho · 2020-02-05T05:21:11+00:00

I do.

CMOAN_MAYNE · 2020-02-05T05:39:41+00:00

Yes, we do.

exit_sandman · 2020-02-05T09:50:02+00:00

If this is the case, why have SO many of my sweet, “innocent” friends gotten cheated on?

Because despite being sweet innocent girls who cared they still went for selfish badboys who obviously didn't?

abaxeron · 2020-02-05T11:45:13+00:00

In my humble opinion, "good" girl is like a tasty vegetable. "Bad" girl is like a shot of heroin.

wtknight · 2020-02-05T14:25:17+00:00

Hilariously enough, some them were out of their boyfriends’ leagues.

That’s what you think, but it’s obviously not what those men thought if they cheated. The fact that they could cheat alone means that they were probably fairly high quality men and that your portrayal of these men is not particularly accurate.

A man will stay with “sweet“ women if he doesn’t feel like he can do better and eventually develops feelings for her. He will cheat if he doesn’t feel like she is in the same league as him and that he can do better, and because she is not high quality enough in his mind that he isn’t willing to make the decision to commit to her monogamously.

DraconianDebate · 2020-02-05T16:18:10+00:00

The women you described are not nice girls they are doormats. They are so passive and insecure that they will let their boyfriends get away with anything.

createweirdstories · 2020-02-06T18:08:21+00:00

Men are so stupid they only understand brutality. That's why they love bad bitches and treat good girls like shit. They relate to the bad girls more cos that's how they would act if they were a girl.

It sucks because my literal sexual fetish is taking care of someone but men hate this and have no respect for it.

MuleFool42 · 2020-02-04T23:58:57+00:00

"They seem to feel a disgust for these women VERY similar to what women feel for “betas”" So this is confirmation that women do, indeed, feel disgust for BP betas.

I suppose the only thing that's left is for men and women to continue to treat each other with contempt. What a wonderful world we live in now.

As to your question, I think a lot of men would like and appreciate 'good' girls, but to your admission, but as most of them are probably BP betas, what good does that get them?

Barely-moral · 2020-02-04T23:59:21+00:00

Wanting some kind of woman as a partner and being able to treat said woman well are two different things.

Silly analogy. I want to have a puppy. I have no idea how to take care of a puppy and I am irresponsible as shit. The result is... when I get a puppy, that puppy will suffer because I am an asshole.

That was hypothetical. Just saying.

SazeracSlap · 2020-02-05T01:32:30+00:00

Men want to fuck bad girls, they marry the good ones. It’s the Madonna/Whore complex forever and always...

It’s incredibly difficult for a man to see a single woman as both the Madonna and the whore, that’s why after we have children the attraction and sex fade... it’s why the younger women are always being chased... same thing for if we become their mothers telling them what to do and bossing them around...

The kind of women that are chased and sought after for sex aren’t always the same ones that are perused for marriage and family....

And as far as the “bad boy” argument is concerned, swap the “bad boy” label for “immature” and it becomes more accurate as it is my experience that grown men have a pretty good understanding of this Madonna complex and they don’t let it color their judgement

siberiansummer · 2020-02-05T00:37:48+00:00

Nope. Men have zero respect for pickmeishas. Facts

Jip_Jaap_Stam · 2020-02-05T00:30:08+00:00

idk, ive never bothered hiding my crazy from men and i've always kept a man tbqh

FatmanSlim93 · 2020-02-04T23:54:31+00:00

I just want her to not have slept around, treats people with kindness, and wants to sleep/snuggle with me. That’s about it, and if that makes them “good” then yes I do.

Skept1kos · 2020-02-05T00:47:48+00:00

You can't be dumped by your boyfriend if you dump him first.

It may be that your less-sweet friends would also be dumped, but because they have less patience than your sweet friends they do the dumping in their relationships.

Second point, I think there are diminishing returns to niceness. After someone reaches a certain pleasant level of niceness I don't think being nicer is going to make me like them much more. (It might make me feel guiltier about not being interested in them though.) Someone buying gifts for me every week might even feel weird enough that I would like them less. Also definitely dump your boyfriend if he says vile things to you, tolerating abuse is not part of being a sweet or good girl.

pongaminbloom · 2020-02-05T01:51:22+00:00

Men like genuinely good girls. They don't like co-dependents, cowards, fakes, manipulators sympathy seekers, game players, stonewallers, passive aggressive mouses, and spineless people-pleasers who care more about what popular acquaintances think than about their SOs.

Goodness needs to be accompanied by strength and sincere concern for the well being of others.

mazeforgays · 2020-02-05T12:51:02+00:00

What all of the retards in this thread are saying is:

Person A is a mean cunt.

Person A fakes being a good guy to charm person B.

Person B starts trusting person A after a while.

Person A stops faking being good and starts being a cunt to person B.

Local incels: wow person B is a dumb slut why do they always pick dem bad boiz!!1!

You can't take anything in this sub seriously, I'm keep coming here just out of morbid curiosity. It's like a car accident, disgusting and sort of funny, but you can't look away.

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doggie_smalls · 2020-02-05T00:48:16+00:00

Depends on who it is I guess. The dating scene has all these codes and conventions which lead to pyramids.

Stereotypically IMO women want to be loved and valued whereas men want someone to cuddle and have sex with. Getting deeper into the stereotypes, it’s probably because these douchebags who see women as nothing much more than fleshlight-equipped body pillows use their tricks to seduce women into being with them, by implying to the girls ‘I want you, and I will value you’. Unfortunately these girls fall for it, and these men end up becoming another sick joke. Not to mention the fear of being alone

Honestly the dating scene is a cliché and toxic mess that boils down to biology and society.

But whatever I guess, just what I think

maelstromsteel · 2020-02-05T01:28:58+00:00

I'd like anyone who shows interest in me tbh. I mean I can't really say I have a preference but outside of like middle school crushes I've pretty much only had crushes on girls I've been friends with for a while. Some of them of each type so no real disqualifying factors.

King_Loser27 · 2020-02-05T01:31:51+00:00

We dont necessarily like goody two shoes girls who have never had a good time in their life, but that doesnt mean we like women with no self control

MajIssuesCaptObvious · 2020-02-05T01:56:04+00:00

I don't. Of course, I don't keep bad girls around for too long, though.

By good girls, I mean quiet, church going girls. Also, I don't like gifts from women, because I've had them hold gifts over my head. To add, I don't like it when a woman makes me the center of her world. That's actually bad for long term relationships, anyway. People end up losing their individuality which can turn to resentment over the long haul.

Your friends probably liked assholes, btw.

piguy31415 · 2020-02-05T02:45:47+00:00

Yes they do. That doesn't mean there aren't shitty men who will take advantage of them.

throwawaybpdnpd · 2020-02-05T02:53:29+00:00

Your friends have bad boundaries, they’re free to go whenever they want but they decide to stay stuck in their shi

Yes, great men like good girls

thug_nihari · 2020-02-05T03:02:43+00:00

Good girls that are naughty in private

Daffan · 2020-02-05T04:18:33+00:00

Hell yes.

Girl next door is a thing you know.

geyejoe7 · 2020-02-05T05:05:21+00:00

I always looked for cute and sweet girls. Feminine aswell.

I don't want to date some self centered, feminist, that curses all the time, dresses like a slut, is loud in public, etc.

I wanted a nice, sweet, good girl. And that's exactly what I found. Couldn't be happier.

Because they're the best of the bunch. Do some guys take it for granted? Yes. Are those dudes trash human beings? Absolutely.

I wish your friends all the best. And hopefully they find good guys.

RemingtonFlemington · 2020-02-05T05:16:03+00:00

What these friends are lacking is a little thing called self respect. It's one thing to be gracious and express yourself in the love language of your choosing; its wholly different to do so and allow a complete lack of reciprocation of any love language.

Anthony-waltzs · 2020-02-05T05:26:12+00:00

Of course no healthy sane guy wants to be with a bitch, unless your into that kink but that’s more of a mental issue I’m not going to get into detail. The reason good girls get hate sometimes is because their usually not really good girls their just acting like that because it’s a image they want to project.

PrincepsOmni · 2020-02-05T05:32:41+00:00

Most men, as a general thing want a woman who is a Nun in the streets, and a Whore in the sheets.

Being sweet to a man is only part of the package. And none of that means diddly squat if the woman hasn't properly vetted the man to ensure he's the kind of man who will appreciate her effort in the first place. Women who do 'wife stuff' for a man who hasn't demonstrated commitment get what they deserve - just as men who shut themselves out of the 'sexual markeplace' for a woman who isn't demonstrating loyalty and submission to his frame get what they deserve.

Vetting is everything. And often the most overlooked thing in a potential relationship. People are either desperate for a relationship and rush in, or blinded by chemistry...or both,

felis_magnetus · 2020-02-05T09:21:14+00:00

Frankly, good girls bore me. Always have, always will. There is no difference whatsoever to nice guys here. Underdeveloped personalities in both cases. Although there's nothing wrong with being nice or good, being nothing but nice or good is all wrong. Putting that at the core of your self-definition is a self-defeating strategy. It's calming people and putting them at ease and that is not creating strong bonds. Simply not how it works, how passion works. Who wants to be with a doormat? Might as well be wanking in a sock, to be very, very blunt here. Then again, men do wank, of course. But we don't become particularly attached to the sock.

Don't be just nice/good. Find out what you're about, have red lines. Offer something to rub against, have some rough edges. You can always be nice/good on top of that, within clear boundaries. How do you expect people to relate to you, when all you offer to relate to is you relating to them no matter what? It's like trying to hang a frame on a nail in thin air.

FreakXAurora · 2020-02-05T10:16:35+00:00

No they don’t.

Psych0_W0lf · 2020-02-05T11:27:56+00:00

The question is....... are these good girls really choosing those guys who seemed like good guys?

ComplexProjection · 2020-02-05T11:52:51+00:00

This post is so funny.

"Why are my friends who are only going for assholes getting treated like shit ?"

volchonok1 · 2020-02-05T12:08:41+00:00

If this is the case, why have SO many of my sweet, “innocent” friends gotten cheated on? Treated like shit and abused?

Because they dated assholes, not because they were sweet and innocent. Don't go for assholes (that is appropriate for both genders btw).

ScaredIllustrator · 2020-02-05T12:43:29+00:00

a girl being nice and sweet to her friends, family, pet, etc, giving them love

just observing that behaviour makes me think 'aw what a lovely girl' ❤

also i like girls who like cats or animals in general, like really like cats not just 'oh i have a cat and i feed it now and then'. u gotta love that shit bitch.

the sweet girls who watch tv and chill at home with their cats all day long are adorable and should be protected at all costs, especially if they dont act like sluts like women do nowadays. oh, and the sweet girls who let every guy off gently. the guy might not like it, but thats how a real girl is supposed to behave.

there are some seriously lovely girls out there who are actually wife material. but theyre so rare you think whats the point in even looking for them. it seems like my generation was the last of these real 'good girls' and theyve been replaced with phone obsessed mental weirdos. like wtf, women are meant to be the sane ones. and now they aren't anymore and life is shitty

all this slut business and calling yourself a hoe, being proud of hoe-ery, commenting on dickprints, slutty shit like that is nasty, unfeminine & any smart female would realise that and just not do it.

Finding a girl with good boundaries, thats sweet, genuinely nice for the greater good, doesnt waste yours or other ppls time, not a complete liar, smart, with zero or near zero body count (ie not a slut or dick chaser) is rare af - if you tick those boxes, you are like a fking unicorn and should be protected at all costs. ❤️

WiterS2 · 2020-02-05T15:07:01+00:00

Men like good girls, but that's not enough.

Being a good girl tend to be confused with overcompensating for lacking an interesting personality.

Also, some men simply don't want relationships, and they will treat all women that way, good girl or not.

Godot96 · 2020-02-05T16:07:44+00:00

What does make a girl "good"? Because Fedora wearing, >tfw no gf, cringey neckbeards have a female counterpart as well

the_calibre_cat · 2020-02-05T16:40:57+00:00

Yeah. The bad girl might be fun, but a good girl can be plenty good in bed - and is likelier to not ditch you in a puddle of your own feelings after a couple years when she gets bored from you.

doubled99again · 2020-02-05T19:13:24+00:00

People often get "cheated on" because it wasn't the relationship that was right for either of them. It's not always an indictment of someone.

Katapilla_Killa · 2020-02-05T19:28:35+00:00

Do men REALLY like “good girls”?

No. I married my wife of 15 years for the sole reason that I could absolutely trust her to help me bury a body. Sweet girls are weak. I need a strong, capable woman.

rosenbergstein · 2020-02-05T20:20:16+00:00

If this is the case, why have SO many of my sweet, “innocent” friends gotten cheated on?

Because when you have a girlfriend, other girls start noticing you and chatting you up for no reason. It's like being CHAD for a day, but it's also just a part and parcel of women's sexual liberation. Women can have sex with anyone they want, including men in a relationship.

LillthOfBabylon · 2020-02-05T23:52:51+00:00

You see it all the time in these subs. “Women like selfish badboys

Because these guys can only think in black and white.

who show they don’t care; men like sweet good girls who show that they do.”

Depends on which guy youre talking about. Some of them admit theyre fuck boys.

If this is the case, why have SO many of my sweet, “innocent” friends gotten cheated on?

Because theyve mad bad choices.

What these guys in this sub dont understand is no everyone knew their lover was a piece of shit.

Another one of my friends treated her man like a king (putting him way above herself)

Because she’s a Pickmesha. Im going to guess your friends are teenagers or early 20s. Theyre making “rookie mistake”. Giving a guy everything he wants will not make him grateful.

Vahallabar · 2020-02-06T01:15:06+00:00

The sweet girl image is the public one. Get behind closed doors and you find out they are selfish and controlling. I like sweet girls (although a little bad girl in the bedroom is okay)

I married a sweet girl who was not selfish or controlling but honestly....had to go through many a dumper to find a good one. Also, could be very sweet and all but have no desire to keep themselves healthy and looking good. Keeping yourself in shape is important to your health. Both need to do that because if you want to be around you have to take care of yourself......and with that you take care of your spouse as well.

SDW137 · 2020-02-06T01:53:45+00:00

I don't know, do girls really like "good men"?

bonusfruit · 2020-02-06T13:20:08+00:00

Men like women who like them. The other side is so willfully oblivious to the reality of mens non existent sexual value that they refuse to get this. Just showing interest makes the man want you back. No one has touched his face in 6 months. He is not sorting through his harem of options and filtering out the ones who are good girls. He's not a woman. He doesn't have the staggering privilege of being that picky

eboy4hire · 2020-02-08T05:03:03+00:00

Women like hot girls that put out easy. Just like women like hot guys. Idk about the put out easy part.

dylang92 · 2020-02-05T00:09:24+00:00

OP, let me guess. Your friends are going for the tall dude with strong jaws right? They should just pick a beta who can’t get laid by any other woman if they’re having this much trouble. Plenty of men would be willing to not only give them love and attention, but will create a strong relationship with them, have kids, and stick around.

SupremeMystique · 2020-02-05T00:47:30+00:00

No because "good girls" don't really like good men. So as a result, men don't like good girls because they ain't even good.

INB4 Niceguy

YveisGrey · 2020-02-05T01:56:06+00:00

Why men marry bitches 101.

Men only like having sex with sweet “agreeable” women but when it comes to marriage they always choose the one busting their chops. Nobody likes a pushover tbh it shows a lack of confidence and self esteem. Most “nice girls” are just insecure women with low standards and zero boundaries. I’m not saying be an outright jackass but you have to know how and when to stand up for yourself.

PMmeareasontolive · 2020-02-05T01:57:39+00:00

I don't think your friends are typical if they are buying their boyfriends trucks.

The bullshit meter is off the charts on these FDS posts lately.

uchihaitachi1237 · 2020-02-05T03:17:07+00:00

Us Guys just want beautiful sexy girls. We don't give a fuck about personality in the initial stages. In LTR we want a beautiful girl with an agreeable personality

Market_Feudalism · 2020-02-05T04:16:17+00:00

If they're so good, why don't they get married first?

Maria_take_the_wheel · 2020-02-05T07:03:49+00:00

I find it interesting that the common thought around guys ist that if a guy gets a bad girl, she is at fault for being a bitch and he was tricked. She is the bad one.

Now one would think that the narrative would be the other way around. But No... Suprise!

When a girl gets a bad guy, She is at fault as well!

Funny how you spin the narrative to never be of blame...

2020-02-05T01:33:25+00:00

Good girls are for wives and mothers, bad girls are for dirty sexual fantasies.

(Also LOL at the girls choosing selfish bad boys and now you're complaining that they get treated like shit. No fucking duh)

NeedingAdvice86 · 2020-02-05T04:07:54+00:00

Yes....

TankVet · 2020-02-05T05:08:03+00:00

Yeah, because adults don’t actually like to be treated like shit. Sorry your friends got treated poorly.

Title	Do men REALLY like “good girls”?
Author	shamefulthrowout
Upvotes	103
Comments	296
Date	February 4, 2020 11:48 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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