I (27M) never wanted to get married, LTR is changing my mind

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February 10, 2020

I'll keep it short and toasty - I fucked up. But hear me out, this isn't another unicorn circle jerk session. I tried plating a female colleague for a few months but she wouldn't budge. She's (23F) a muslim girl, wears a headscarf, the works, she was just awfully sweet, respectful and hides her nice ass which for me was a mindblowing turnon. After about 3 months of me flirting my balls off, we started going out and one thing led to another, we were dating for a year. Fuck. She was a virgin, she wanted to keep herself till marriage, but is in love with me and we had a blood fest on the sheets which to this day I feel a tad guilty about. She's pretty much perfect wife material: she's financially independent, when i come to her house she has a meal ready, has cookies or some awesome shit made, and gives me tons of backrubs. Seen as she hasn't had anyone in her life before she's pretty much... clueless when it comes to sex and I was used to some very rough fucks, but that's a minor issue and is changing for the better. She's realistic, caring and very good with keeping finances, in our city she's appeared in newspapers for doing charity work.

My question fellas as I am desperate. I thought marriage was as stupid as paying to step into a bear trap. But I'm liking the idea of having this girl around and I've vetted the shit out of her. She's a practicing muslim, I am too on paper but I have nothing to do with the religion, which means we'd be getting married in terms of Sharia, no "losing half your shit" kinda shtick. She's really in love. And when I say really in love, I mean greeting me at the door like she was my dog, and taking off my shoes and giving me random ass footrubs to the point where I feel like this is a prank. From your perspective as folks who have dived into the risk pool; should i give this a try?

She has never asked me, but I know culturally if I dont marry her I will break her heart for good and I'll have messed her up for taking her virginity before marriage. Im kind of in the shit here. Anything is appreciated, really. Thanks guys!

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Title I (27M) never wanted to get married, LTR is changing my mind
Author kuramakira
Upvotes 27
Comments 104
Date 10 February 2020 04:22 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/331931
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/f1smuv/i_27m_never_wanted_to_get_married_ltr_is_changing/
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[–]FoxShitNasty8350 points51 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you want to get married get married if you dont then don't.

Give less fucks about what other people want.

[–]arm_candy33 points34 points  (2 children) | Copy

this isn't another unicorn circle jerk session

Clearly it is.

What you’ve told us is that she’s a unicorn and you’re nice guy. You left out all the stats and facts, so we can assume that this is a new relationship still in the honeymoon phase (you say LTR but it sounds like you haven’t been fucking for most of that time), that you have no abundance, and that you don’t lift. You’re now considering marrying a practicing Muslim while you apparently aren’t religious because you feel guilty. This is going to end well for you.

[–]redirectedfs10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

If only there was some sort of organized list of resources that explained this...

[–]Onein1024th49 points50 points  (14 children) | Copy

  1. TRP is a toolbox for you to live the life you want to live
  2. Marriage will fundamentally change any relationship due to the man's loss of options
  3. If you're not living your best life, socially involved, physically active, etc. you will look like a chump to her.
  4. if you have any addictions or weaknesses (videogames, pot, alcohol, porn, etc) they will eat you alive, she will see those weaknesses and lose respect for you
  5. once she's lost respect for you, you'll have to be on your A-Game for a long time before getting it back, if ever
  6. your SMV will rise, hers will decrease

if you're comfortable with these things and this is the life you want to live; don't let me stop you. I am married and would not do it again

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

Re: #4

No, just find a woman who loves the same drugs as you do and you will be fine.

[–]teaandtalk1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Tru. We partake of a couple in our marriage and it works QUITE well. BUT, it wouldn't work if either of us was hooked.

[–]Luftbrucke3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

nice summary !

[–]kuramakira[S] 1 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy

I dont have any addictions, I lift and I have a decent paycheck. I've been plating women for 2 years while keeping frame 100% and kicking them to the curb once they want more than meaningless fucks. But that's just it. Do you regret your marriage because you'd rather go back to quickdick some 20 somethings with daddy issues? I grew tired and bored of this, but if it only goes downhill from here then fuck that. I'd rather have a psycho chick ride me then.

[–]coinbaserep8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Grass is always greener.

Your tired of banging 20 something year olds with daddy issues

I’m married and together with my wife for 18 years (we fucked 8 times last week and I need a couple days off) and I think about banging 20 something year olds with daddy issues

Will I ? Probably not because apparently like you I will grow tired of it

Do what you want. Don’t marry her because you are afraid of breaking her heart. That’s stupid.

Sounds like you need to grow up a little

[–]Onein1024th1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I regret it because I did not have my shit together when I started.

Parenting is incredible

[–]Qba19940 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Incredibly difficult or incredibly amazing or actually both?

[–]Onein1024th0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

well its work but so is anything worth doing.

I meant that its incredibly amazing. Others say differently, YMMV

[–]DonnaB999D-18 points-17 points  (5 children) | Copy

You know how empty that life is. Take a chance. She's intelligent. Sit down with her and discuss your fears. Let her know your hard limits (e.g. being disrespectful, getting in-laws too involved in your lives, getting fat). Set expectations like sex 5 times a week, discussing problems calmly with no shouting, etc.

My daughter and her husband spent 2 months writing and negotiating their Nikah marriage contract. Just the two of them with no one else's input. They covered sex, number of children, where they would live... They each signed it, rolled it up and stored it away. Even I have never seen it. Each year on their anniversary they pull it out and reread it together and recommit to honoring it and each other.

[–]redirectedfs16 points17 points  (4 children) | Copy

Are women always this easy to spot?

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret[M] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Taken care of.

[–]simbarlionRed Beret4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

did you cyber bang her?

yes, with a g.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yes, because there's typically some version of "as a woman, blah blah blah."

[–]simbarlionRed Beret7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

and the username 'donna' of course

that sex contract does not sound at all problematic to me

[–]part_wolf13 points14 points  (4 children) | Copy

...hear me out, this isn't another unicorn circle jerk session.

(Proceeds to have a unicorn circle jerk session)

[–]kuramakira[S] 7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

Goddamnit man

[–]part_wolf9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

By all means, go ahead and make important life-altering decisions based on what random assholes on the internet think.

[–]kuramakira[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I guess when you say it THAT way it sounds retarded

[–]RoccoPinkman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


[–]UEMcGillI am become McGill, Destroyer of Blue Pill12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy

On the one hand, redpill is amoral and doesn't give a fuck about you, her faith or your lack of it. What does any of what you driveled on about have to do with it?

Here's the redpill question any man should ask without the moral baggage. "Do I have the sex life I want?" Rule zero is paramount.

How does she answer that question?

What I read that you should be really conscious of is this nice little woman is desperately trying to please you with her servitude and sexual favors. She's engaged in a high-risk adventure to secure your commitment. And guess what? It's working. You have her on a high pedestal, with spotlights and brass plaques and you're trying to tell the world what a special unicorn she is.

Marriage is a business proposition. I'm in it, as I see it as a way to raise my nuclear family, and it works for me. It was poorly entered into on my part, and yeah I could have done it differently in terms of legal status, but it doesn't change the fact that I wanted and now have a family.

She has never asked me, but I know culturally if I dont marry her I will break her heart for good and I'll have messed her up for taking her virginity before marriage.

You think so? I lived in the North East and used to bang Conservative Jewish Girls and a Bengali girl. All of them moved onto have traditional religious marriages. All of them to the letter told me, "Hey this is on the down-low. If my family/friends found out they'd disown me" I think your princess would move on faster than you know.

[–]kuramakira[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Thank you for the enlightenment, and as for the other comments that have knocked some sense into me I've reread my post and noticed that I do indeed have oneitis. It's fucked, I'm fucked and I need to get my head out of my ass.

[–]mrpmonk2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Start your OYS posts, faggot

[–]tom-anonymous11 points12 points  (6 children) | Copy

You keep bringing up muslim like this makes her different than any other unicorn woman out there. Muslim women are just as hypergamous as any woman. Just look at his Chris Hanson "To Catch a Cheater" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG23rPIyy6Y. The muslim woman in this video is just as much of a whore as any other western woman and blames the guy for working 16 hours per day while she sits at home whoring around.

So what does getting married in terms of Sharia even mean? Are you living in a western country? Do you have to file for a marriage certificate? If so, the courts don't care when they're determining how much you have to give her.

Sounds like you have onenitis and you're using religion to convince yourself that she's special and she won't go down the same road any other woman would once they tie the knot.

[–]Whatev2213 points14 points  (3 children) | Copy

Plus he feels guilty for plucking her flower

[–]arm_candy-5 points-4 points  (2 children) | Copy

“Plucking her flower”? Are you writing a romance novel?

[–]Whatev220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That’s what rolled off my thumb. I was going to add that he should just knock her up and then he doesn’t have to make a decision... he just HAS to marry her.

[–]DonnaB999D-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hahaha LOL

[–]kuramakira[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

What the fuck did I just watch. Women are women. Thanks for the enlightenment. I needed the suckerpunch

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Chris Hanson "To Catch a Cheater"


fuck you I just went down a youtube rabbit hole of laughing at betas.

[–]chrisindub6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

As long as you understand AWALT, she sounds like she is everything you would want in a wife.

Traditional, conservative, religious, respects family and would probably be a kick-ass wife and mother to your children.

But, are you decent husband material? Are you capable of being a man, father, and husband?

Ask yourself very honestly if you are ready. It's a lot of fucking work you are signing yourself up for.

You have to picture her at her worst, and if you are not the man she expects you to be, she will become a disaster to deal with just like any other married female with a husband who isn't what she needs.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy

You want to know if you should marry your virgin Muslim unicorn or not?

Get a magic 8 Ball.

Do what that says.

[–]NeoTheJuanDJ0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, OP we have winner here. Let that 8 Ball take the lead you don’t have the stones to take. Also, I have a bridge to sell you. 50% off bro. And, for a limited time only!, you can strap this 300lb vest your chest and within seconds you’ll have access to 70 virgin Muslim Unicorns! Detonation switch not included, see road-side market stands for details. You can be alpha and open your hoes’ bobs for 29.99z buy your ticket to 70 unicorns paradise now!

[–]kuramakira[S] -1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

Yeah yeah kick a man when hes doozy and beta loaded. I get it, i have oneitis i see it too now

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Reply hazy, try again.

[–]kuramakira[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

AWALT, have many options open, there are no unicorns. Never lose frame, the moment I show my oneitis beta vagina she'll abuse the shit out of it, turn into a fat leech and make me dread coming home.

[–]arm_candy3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ugh. RP buzzword bingo.

You’re too concerned about “her”. What do you actually want? Aside from validation from Internet retards.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret9 points10 points  (18 children) | Copy

Get married if you want to get married. We aren't here to make decisions for you.

Couldn't you just take 3 more wives anyways if this didn't work out?

[–]part_wolf4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Couldn't you just take 3 more wives anyways if this didn't work out?

This is some next level big brain strategery right here.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Hey - didn't say it was a good idea. But an idea... but what if you truly were a perfect blend of AF and BB - and had 4 wives. Imagine the social hierarchy games being played in that house and having to live with those 4 women. FFS my head would explode.

[–]FoxShitNasty831 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Think of the mouth noises! Chat, chat, chat, chat, chat....

[–]RoccoPinkman2 points3 points  (12 children) | Copy

Oh shit, how easy is it to convert? Bar all of the praying and no bacon, it actually sounds amazing

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy

I've been thinking about this today actually. Seriously, in this scenario is there a head-wife who manages all the little sub-wives running around vying for my time/attention? That's the only way I can imagine it working, it would take up too much of my time.

Who's writing the next guide on MRP Polygamy?

no bacon

Well fuck I'm out.

[–]RoccoPinkman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah when you put it like that it sound like a headache and the bacon is the final nail.

Surely somebody on this sub is in a poly relationship?

[–]Temp_Shelter0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, always gotta have a bottom bitch

[–]mrpmonk0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

head-wife who manages all the little sub-wives running around vying for my time/attention?

I don't think this is how it works. The man runs the household and game his wives and keeping each on a different level of dread.


[–]part_wolf0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

Just gotta change your name to Rocco PIMPman.

[–]RoccoPinkman0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Flair suggestion?

[–]part_wolf2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

Imam Rocco Al-Pimpmani

[–]RoccoPinkman2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Anything has to be better than ‘cucked by machines’

I’ll take Imam Rocco Al-Pimpmani, any day

[–]part_wolf1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Agreed. Whenever the mods think I’ve stopped bullshitting myself they’ll probably change mine to ‘CrossFit is Super Gay’.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Well you haven't stopped bullshitting yourself yet...

[–]part_wolf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Believe me, it's not for lack of trying.

[–]Tyred_Biggums1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Couldn't you just take 3 more wives anyways if this didn't work out?

That’s a lot of spreadsheets and scoreboards to keep track of.

[–]kuramakira[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lmao honestly awesome point. Fuck yes

[–]redwall924 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

It sounds like you're getting everything you want. What more do you want?

[–]RoccoPinkman4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

He’d like to make his oneitis legally binding

[–]kuramakira[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

From the perspective of people who are basically "chained to the female" is it still not worth it? Has someone, anyone actually had a good experience from this fucked up ritual. My parents had the nastiest divorce, all my friends are either unhappily married or unhappily single. And I'm not getting any younger, I just don't want to fall into the trap because my surroundings are making me desperate and clouding my judgment.

[–]redwall920 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It sounds like you're getting everything you want. What more do you want?

You're asking questions about "worth." What are you looking to get? What are you gaining? You've got to be able to articulate what you're shooting for in order to determine if it's "worth it."

It sounds like you're getting everything you want. What more do you want?

[–]RoccoPinkman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You’ve found a unicorn, marry her before she escapes

[–]markreadsred3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think only getting married in the faith is the best thing you could do if you are getting married. don't get the law or government involved.

If she's adding value to your life and it makes sense then go for it. but no one here can help you with that.

[–]HeckleandChide5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

First, there are 3.5 billion women on this planet. There are literally millions of other girls that can do every single one of the things you mentioned. Stop getting so damned hung up on this one girl. Oneitis is a great way to turn a sweet, submissive girl into a nagging cold fish.

Second, suppose I told you about an investment opportunity. You have a 10% chance to make an excellent return, a 20% chance to make a small return, a 20% chance to break even, and a 50% chance to lose money. Would you take it? That’s marriage today. Screw the “lol Sharia law” nonsense, marriage is still a huge investment of time, energy, emotions, etc. even apart from money. Using the investment strategy, you can improve your chances of an excellent return - in the marriage context - using MRP but it is no guarantee. We fix the man, not the marriage. If you vet horribly, you won’t change her.

Third, as for the taking her virginity, that’s a moral decision for you to deal with. We aren’t your conscience; MPR is amoral. Deal with that shit in whatever way you need to in order to look yourself in the mirror and like what you see.

[–]Roach_Senpai1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Where are you guys from ?

[–]kuramakira[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She's tunisian, I'm albanian we live in Germany. I grew up here, morals and all; i have nothing to do with my culture, lived my life fucking whomever whenever I wanted. She lived here too but she's not into that lifestyle.

[–]Livecrazyjoe1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Honestly if she's that awesome I'd wait. Remember women will act perfect till you marry them.

It happened to me. Girl was perfect till married. Then everything went to shit. She did a 180 and changed. Take your time. She'll reveal her personality as a year or two rolls on. Keep dating for a while and see what happens.

[–]RStonePT1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

She's pretty much perfect wife material: she's financially independent, when i come to her house she has a meal ready, has cookies or some awesome shit made, and gives me tons of backrubs.

I call these sunhat goddesses. When they want to lock down a man, they throw on a sunhat and summer dress to hide tattoos, take some pictured in a wheat field while looking down and to the left and fufil every mans fantasy of a TRADWIFE.

you're being taken for a ride my friend. She may be good, or not, but you don't know that.

Try telling her no, see how she reacts. You're welcome

[–]Over60_FireTempered3Red Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

She was a virgin, she wanted to keep herself till marriage, but is in love with me and we had a blood fest on the sheets which to this day I feel a tad guilty about.

..at this point she took ownership of you, and you accepted it. You, like so many men before you, want to trade your freedom for pussy, and just one pussy at that.

Yes, you have fucked yourself up. You know this, but you know nothing. In fact, you are so ill informed, that you bring this mess of poop here, hoping, hoping, that someone here will change your path that you are so dead set on going down. You really know better, that is why you are here. But you are hooked on pussy and can see nothing else. Sad.

[–]DonnaB999D3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

As a Muslim man, you wouldn't have gone this far, knowing the consequences for her, unless you were pretty sure. I, like you, am marginally practicing so I get your dilemma. Bottom line, regardless of what all these other guys think of marriage, you know that you have already made a de facto contract with her, based on our faith. Besides, they hate marriage because they deal with selfish women who don't understand partnership and trivialize their men. That's not our culture. btw I'm African-American and American to my core.

All this personal growth is about being the best man you can be. So be a man and honor your responsibilities to this amazing woman. If you don't it will break your own heart as well. And you will carry that pain and guilt with you forever. And while you're at it, spend some time thinking of the things that you can do to please her just as she does for you.

Remember, you pursued her, not the other way around. She went out on a limb and put her trust in YOU. You found the unicorn. Now man up at marry her, Inshallah :-)

[–]kuramakira[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Thats weirdly wholesome man.. But I think this whole one-woman-forever thing is just not for me. I was never the marriage guy, and I won't be. The other people calling me out on my oneitis and beta shit are right about that. And I needed that wakeup call to remind myself of what I want

[–]arm_candy8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

You were planning to marry this woman and because some internet morons tell you not to, suddenly you’re not a one-woman man. Are you actually not capable of thinking for yourself?

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret[M] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Banned, concern trolling, doesn't have a penis.

[–]Tyred_Biggums0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Do you want to get married? No one can answer that for you.

[–]WolfofAllStreetz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

ITT: Perfect example of how religion can fuck up a relationship/bro stuff.

[–]CrazyLegs780 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think you might be missing the point on some of the replies. You should have a written list of things you want out of life. Engrave it on some wood, frame it, or tatto that shit on your forehead so that you see it everyday. Real stuff, like retirement property in the Bahamas, sailing across the pacific, raising some awesome kids, three chicks at one time, etc...

Does she fit in to this list? Can she help you get there? Will she bring any value to your accomplishments?

If you think she can, make your expectations known to her. Let her know, through your actions and boundaries, that you will happily cut her loose if she fails to meet your expectations. People are unhappy in marriages and alone because they have no fucking clue what they really want or how to get there. It's all on/about you, not her. Keep in mind marriage is not far removed from parenting, oldest kid in the family, adolescent mindset, etc...AWALT!!

[–]Rock_Granite0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

How do you know that she won't turn into one of those women who believes that sex just "naturally becomes less important after you're married for a while"? What will you do when your devout muslim gives you a dead bedroom? Have you asked her how many times per week she should be servicing you now and in the future? Does she agree that even with kids you still need sex?

[–]pussykiller0090 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you’re a muslim , you can still use the polygamy status as a dread.You can marry 3 more wives, so she’ll better treat you well. Marry her if you feel like it. You don’t have to follow what people here think about marriage.

[–]SteveSan820 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

My wife was the same way when we were dating. Then we got married and she changed.

Your girl is a Muslim so you have to deal with that added drama too. And what makes you think she was really a virgin? For all you know she waited for her period to have sex. You think Muslimahs don’t know how to fool men?

[–]nantucketghost0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Get married if you're ok with just her. Met my wife and knew that's what I wanted. Got married. The whole MRP thing works best when your red pilled before you get married. It's the guys that decide to do it mid what that have to go through the shit show with their wives. You're in a good spot. Go for it.

[–]tap09885340 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It really depends on the laws in your country. Are you getting married under sharia or is there a non-sharia government who will fuck you over if you put her out on the street. A true sharia marriage will give you the power, so it's not a bad deal. It's up to you to define the power dynamic. What would she do if you said you wanted to marry her so you could take her by force whenever you want, and make her obey your every command. If you can't say this, you're not ready to be married. If she balks, then she is just auditioning for commitment, and it is a bear trap.

[–]odysseysred0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Time is your friend. Slow the fuck down. You are getting what you want from this woman currently. If she presses the issue in another year or two perhaps you'll be ready to convert or keep stringing her along. If she starts turning into a bitch or denying you sex or slightly disrespecting you then she is slowly bringing you into her frame. Think big, fuck more women. Have you even grazed your potential? Doubtful. Focus on your damn mission.

[–]AquitasVeritas0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Dont get your hopes up son. .

My wife is turkish (not muslim but raised with those standards). She cooks, cleans, stays at home to take care of my child all the works. She is a good wife. Sweet and loving. But she is still a woman. Once that honeymoon period is gone she will turn. This is simple because she sees you as hers. Now... she still has to "conquer" you so ofcourse she will be "perfect".

I am far from being where i want to be. But what I have learnt is that a woman is a reflection of you. If you are shitty she will be. And even then... When you seem to be "perfect" she can still be a pain in the ass.

If you want to marry her then marry her. But the fact that you need permission from strangers tells us you are still a weak man.

P.S. In the "muslim culture/world" if you dont make good money you are worthless. So this is good. You better get your $ game up. Also a lot of gossip. So your "status" is important to her. Even if she is a "unicorn", women are weak for social status shit.

I would say (if i can believe you) she is a good woman) but you need to up your game. Financially, socially and physically.

[–]grillinsteaks0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Bloodfest? Losing her virginity wouldn’t cause that. At all. She had her period. Do you want kids? If so, this woman MAY be for you. Marriage is a business proposition. Sometimes the emotions and sex line up too. If anything, talk all this out with her. You have to or you’ll be surprised and disappointed later.

[–]DonnaB999D-2 points-1 points  (4 children) | Copy

That’s understandable. You have to be yourself. But FUCK YOU for messing with this girl’s life knowing the consequences for her. What a selfish act. Yep you are officially a fucking white guy. Salaam alaikum

[–]rightsided0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

So she has no responsibility in this? Fuck outta here. They had consensual sex, as far as we know. OP owes her shit, and she owes OP just as much.

Wait... Does marrying her make this all go away?/s

[–]mrpmonk1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This resonated with what Roosh is saying:

> It’s important to note that a girl who is not actively falling will still feel attraction to a good-looking man with game, but if her faith is genuine, and not something that is confined to the four walls of the gay rainbow church she visits once a month, there will be no subsequent intimacy. Attempting to break such a girl is rather grievous in God’s eyes—you are essentially playing the role of Satan in tempting her to sin.

[–]cdogg750 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

unless muslim sex is actually rape, it was consensual and it falls on her to own her choices.

[–]kuramakira[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Not gonna lie, deserved thay

[–]DonnaB999D-3 points-2 points  (7 children) | Copy

I thought that was a private DM lol. Proof I’m too old for this shit. I would have at least been more diplomatic. But it is a cultural difference. As kids white boys are like, “girls have cooties” and “no girls allowed.” That’s just not part of Black culture. Black men can be misogynistic but it’s not from fear of sex or the fear of women withholding sex. Some guys are just dicks.

Black women know one true thing. Your man is gonna fuck. Period. If you’re not fucking him at home then he’s fucking somewhere else. But rest assured. He. Is. Fucking. Very different attitude. Women of certain Northern European roots (is that less racist) think their shit is lined with gold and that their man will wait around and beg.

Cultural difference

[–]arm_candy1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

Can you seriously not tell the difference between replying to a comment and creating a top-level comment? You have created at least 4 orphaned replies here.

[–]tom-anonymous1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Baby Boomer using Reddit lol.

[–]DonnaB999D0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

I can now. And what does orphaned mean?

[–]arm_candy0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Orphaned meaning they aren’t connected to the relevant parent comment.

[–]DonnaB999D0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

My comments were clearly on topic

[–]arm_candy0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I didn’t say your comments weren’t on topic. I said that they aren’t connected to the relevant parent comment. Literally they are not connected. They aren’t in the comment chain. No one can look at your top level “replies” and see what comment you were responding to.

[–]DonnaB999D0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No idea what the fuck I’m doing, clearly. Sorry about that

[–]teaandtalk-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

You done fucked up. Can't be deflowering Muslim girls without marrying them, that's not cool.

What's her family like? Is her father happy? Are her sisters happily married?

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Can't be deflowering Muslim girls without marrying them, that's not cool.

Banned. Moralizing.

Edit: women are also banned on sight here.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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