LTR thinks experimenting with another girl is not cheating.

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LostInVayne
February 14, 2020
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I had a conversation with my LTR and she told me that if the moment is right and she's heated up for a girl, she'd definitely have sex with her because it's just experimenting and not really cheating. It might be a great revelation to be honest because it could lead to a lot of sexual experiences which I want.

But I realized I have done a horrible job at vetting her. I realize she can be a great fuckbody now, but she's nowhere near an LTR material. The fact that I really do have to tell her that it is cheating, what else is there that I need to tell her that is not wrong or "cheating"?

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What do you think about demoting someone like this? She'll probably not be okay with me plating her and will break, but it's either she'll be a plate or nothing for me.


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Title LTR thinks experimenting with another girl is not cheating.
Author LostInVayne
Upvotes 101
Comments 105
Date 14 February 2020 10:26 AM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/335038
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/f3qc59/ltr_thinks_experimenting_with_another_girl_is_not/
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[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (8 children) | Copy

It's only not cheating if you're involved (read: threesome). I wrote about this years ago in my standards and expectations thread. The gist of it is, for me at least, is that a women I'm seeing can have all the fun they want with other women with the implicit understanding 1. she needs to let me know what's up and 2. I'm invited to join them at any time should I chose to.

Maybe I don't like the other girl, so I opt out, or she pulls a hottie and I do want to join in. Either way, I reserve the right to threesome.. or 4some if she managed a threesome with two other women.

Is it a double standard to not have other guys? No. Why? Women can't knock them up and aren't a threat to me in that and other ways. That's my standard and expectation, they can either take it or leave it.

I'm not entirely sure you made a mistake with your vetting her. It could be, but she's also just presented you with an opportunity for a course correction and is opening door to other women. If she's the First Officer to your Captain, then she'll be receptive to your input and defer to your decision (whatever that may be). If not, then that is the time you downgrade her to a FWB.

Until you at least try to course correct you have no idea if she's amicable to your standards and expectations. This could wind up being great in the long run with her opening up your relationship to side girls. The ball is in your court, and as /u/itiswr1tten pointed out this is very often women-speak for wanting to threesome with you and another girl. You just have to take the lead and guide her through the process giving her permission in a sense. She said all this seeking your approval after all.

So now the question becomes, how do YOU feel about opening the relationship to other women? Is it cheating if it's a threesome? Is it cheating if it's just her and the other woman... if you were invited and opted out? You need to take some time and really clarify your thoughts on this before you decide on how to proceed.

[–]Endorsed ContributorNightwingTRP114 points115 points  (9 children) | Copy

The correct response is "yeah, we should totally go find a girl for a threesome."

The rest you put about her disqualifying herself as LTR material is all accurate.

[–]leotard-princess30 points31 points  (4 children) | Copy

My friend is an expert swinger and says this is 100% the way to go. Have the 3 some and discard the relationship. This is what this is a plea for... She probably doesn't actually see you as an LTR - and you're in too deep anyway.

[–]Onein1024th8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy

i'd keep the relationship as long as she's holding up her end in other ways and meeting guidelines

  1. no guys
  2. I'm always in the know about what's going on
  3. I'm always allowed to join in

Any of those 3 rules gets broken though, instant demotion.

[–]Xerexes38691 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Absolutely. What I don't understand is why it's always the suggestion that relationship should be ended. Why not just keep milking it as long as she is providing value ? Aren't we man enough to keep being enough detached when we are aware of hypergamy that we don't get in too deep. If you want aex and you are getting sex and ahe isn't affecting you negatively why not just let the relationship continue .

[–]Onein1024th0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I wouldn't break off an LTR; I would just demote to Plate

[–]Protocol_Apollo8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

Could you elaborate on how wanting to experiment with a girl is LTR disqualifying.

Is it the justification of it not being cheating (which could lead to a slippery slope)?

[–]theherosmyth32 points33 points  (0 children) | Copy

She didn't say she wants to, as if it's some fantasy. She said she WILL. Because it's not cheating. Maybe the dude can get some benefit out of this which is cool, but to say it's not cheating because you're just experimenting is pretty retarded. Makes you wonder what else she rationalizes.

[–]Seventh_Rose11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

It is a slippery slope and it is also still cheating. She can still end up being more attracted to some other girl sexually/romantically over OP.

[–]SalesAficionado2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's the only good response.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen105 points106 points  (15 children) | Copy

Yes. Red Flag. The hamster is strong in this one.

[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten48 points49 points  (14 children) | Copy

Red flag? This is just womanese for "I have a fantasy about fucking women, please do it with me".

Not directed at you specifically but we have a lot of weird puritans hanging out on TRP nowadays.

So OP, your girl is a hoe for ho ho hoes. Exploit this and have fun with it for awhile, and understand that your LTR just gave you a nice piece of naked truth.

Demote mentally but carry on as if it didn't faze you. Or break up with her, whatever I don't give a shit

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen34 points35 points  (4 children) | Copy

Red flag? This is just womanese for "I have a fantasy about fucking women, please do it with me".

Great for a plate or fuck buddy, red flag for a serious relationship.

[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

I don't disagree to the extent she's going rogue about it. If she's confessing a fantasy.... Different story.

I am also in an OLTR situation so I'm biased

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

If she's confessing a fantasy.... Different story.

granted

[–]Protocol_Apollo-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Interesting.. so you wouldn’t LTR a girl who wanted a FFM three way with YOU (and by extension any girl who’s ever had a 3way full stop).

But why? What’s wrong with a girl who wants a FFM with you?

[–]QueenSlapFight9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

You're moving goal posts. OP said his LTR wouldn't think she was cheating if she did something with a woman. This implies it wouldn't be with OP (how would it be cheating if it was something they did together?), and it wouldn't be with OP's permission or blessing. That's ballparks difference between having a threesome with some girls.

A woman willing to have a threesome = not cheating, and not in and of itself a red flag. A woman who will perform a sex act with anyone without your approval = cheating.

Source: Have had multiple threesomes with an LTR and even a three woman foursome.

[–]RedLegendx5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Red flag. You know what the next question is gonna be?

Well, since we had another women in bed, it’s my turn to have Kevin from sales fuck my asshole.

[–]Bone_Coat1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

FUCK, that's true.

[–]Nighthawk_Black_2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

But she's not wife material should he not text her and explain why he's blocking her number and social media accounts. /S

[–]antariusz1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

AWALT, some are just smarter about vetting their boyfriends and not letting the betas know what she does for an alpha.

[–]warburgio1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

good advice yo

[–]sebastianconcept61 points62 points  (5 children) | Copy

Plate having sex with anyone else is not cheating.

LTR having sex with anyone else is normalization of cuckoldry.

[–]QueenSlapFight-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

LTR having sex with anyone else is normalization of cuckoldry.

So if a guy has an LTR and some plates, and they all have sex together, he's a cuckold?

[–]RedLegendx36 points37 points  (2 children) | Copy

Just like women only count relationships in their notch counts even though they’ve fucked over 40 men minimum.

Brace yourself, she’s starting to give you warning signs.

[–]LostInVayne10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

Haha, yeah I see it how it is. I will just tell her it's okay to be experimenting now and demote her.

[–]Ill_mumble_that14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

Better yet, experiment with her. 3 sum

[–]Big_polarbear11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

Then what about you experimenting with another girl ?

[–]Enlightened_Chimp9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ya OP, tell her you’ve never banged a Latina but if the moments right and things get heated you’ll do it cause it’s not really cheating, it’s experimenting. Bottom line, not LTR material, demote.

[–]Nighthawk_Black_8 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy

I think you mean fuckbuddy. She sounds young and doesn't sound like LTR material I would keep her around and try to get a threesome or something. I've seen girls like this around before chances are you'll both be out drinking or at a party and she will be eating the face of another girl.

[–]LostInVayne8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy

Yeah, she's at that age. She's not at fault thinking what she's thinking, rather I am at fault for getting in a relationship.

[–]Nighthawk_Black_13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

My friends younger brother had a gf that would have sex with girls while in a relationship with him she would tell him it's only a girl it doesn't count. This went on for a few years even after they had a kid together she eventually came out as a lesbian.

[–]QueenSlapFight2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nice job recognizing your role in it. If you can really accept in your head that she's not yours, it's just your turn, and realize this relationship likely has a short term expiration on it, and isn't a marriage or leading to one; then I say there's still room for proceeding forward for the time being. Lay out how her doing anything with anyone else without your permission would be cheating in your book. Don't mate guard and negotiate and tell her she's free to do whatever she wants, that's just your view on it and you will react accordingly. But if she has a desire to experiment with women, that desire alone isn't a betrayal and there could be some circumstances where you'd allow it if it was something you did together. If you could handle that, it could be good sport, but you'd have to realize there's lots of room for it to blow up in your face, so you have to have an eject plan mapped out and an easy ability to sever if it takes a left turn.

[–]xxx69harambe69xxx0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

alpha wise head

good luck bro

[–]xandrewsxano17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy

Women sometimes blabber shit without thinking about it. Maybe she’s slightly attracted to women but who the fuck cares what she is. I’d tell her that the stuff popped back up in my head and I’d be up to bang her and another chick in a threesome and then close topic.

If she shows more redflags dump her.

[–]ThrowawayYAYAY2002-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

/thread.

[–]1Red_Pill_Brotherhood7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you're exclusive, its cheating. Its definitely a red flag. Get a 3some out of it and demote/dump. This chick is perfect plate/fwb material but not LTR material.

[–]beingamannotadayjob5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ok buddy, I think that you won’t wife that girl anyways.

Therefore; let her do her thing but don’t give her permission or something. Say that you’re okay with it as long you play a role, may it be watcher, photographer or actively taking part.

It is easy to score threesomes like this.

[–]alphakari3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

When you demote her, don't tell her what you're doing. Just treat her like a plate/fwb.

[–]theUnBannableHulk3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Not LTR anymore, why do we have dipshits come here asking for “wut do” on BLATANT DISRESPECT:

You don’t need to find the Red Pill, you need to FIND YOUR BALLS.

[–]RedLegendx1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

EXACTLY, these random relationship advice and incel redditors coming in here talking about letting her do whatever she pleases with whoever she pleases, what the fuck is the point of being committed to her if she can fuck around with whoever she wants? We’re talking about an actual committed relationship here not a random plate or fwb. Yes she can do whatever she pleases but that means the committed relationship is over for good, that’s the whole point of locking yourself down with a woman.

[–]NoMoreUncontrollable3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why would you wonna date a girl that wants to fuck other girls? She clearly doesn't find you enough. Imo girls who fuck other girls are not worth my time. They have gone into a slippery slope of sexual travesty. I am good with straight females. Take the broken ones for yourselves

[–]Velsoxof_256 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Experiment with other chicks too

[–]LostInVayne4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

ROFL

[–]Heybuddyyyyyy2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Plate all these hos!!! U gonna kiss your wife and let her kiss your progeny after she been eatin ass????? Imagine that...then delete this soft ass post.

Why do you need to tell her anything just do what u know u need to do

[–]ananyo0078 points9 points  (14 children) | Copy

The fuck is up with TRP being a bunch of insecure bitches these days? It blows my mind how they take a shit on the concept of mate-guarding but they'll do the mate guard on steroids themselves.

OP, maximise your opportunities. Ask yourself, is your girl being into bikini bizkits really a bad thing?

Best case scenario, you expand your harem. Worst case scenario, she leaves you for Butchess, the Bearded Clam Destroyer at which point you have some introspection to do about the state of your relationship in the first place.

Either ways, it's no use mate guarding her, especially from girls. She wants to experiment, let her.

Because if you don't, it shows. The insecurity shows.

[–]RedLegendx10 points11 points  (9 children) | Copy

Don’t mix “insecurity” with blatant cuckoldry, this is an LTR, not a random plate. LTR, you know? Like, they’re committed to each other, you know?

[–]QueenSlapFight1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

It blows my mind these days how much the kids treat an LTR like a marriage. Even with a marriage, she's not yours, it's just your turn. Sure, if she betrays you or commits some cardinal sin you end it. But that's just abundance mentality. Why deal with bullshit when there are so many younger cuter fish in the sea? But in OP's case she literally has shown she's likely not marriage material (I am of the opinion no woman is, but I digress), but then again, it's just an LTR. He's seen her cards, now he can either end it if he's emotionally too weak to ride it out; or if he has some balls and doesn't give a fuck he can turn it into some kinky threesome experiences before ejecting once it doesn't serve his purposes anymore. How that makes him a cuckold is beyond me.

[–]RedLegendx4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

“Ending it” is not being emotionally weak, are you fucking serious?! The whole POINT of being red pilled is to understand female nature and to ABORT when shit is getting shady so you don’t get PLAYED. Women will ALWAYS have way more options at sex than the average man.

You can’t have threesomes with committed relationships, LTRs and shit like that, why? Because unless you’re a fucking sociopath or psychopath there’s gonna be an emotional connection there, that’s the whole point of having an LTR, some of y’all TRY SOO HARD to sound “alpha” and you just come across as a clinically insane man or a straight up cuck. Threesomes are only good with ONS or FWBs, there’s nothing there between y’all just sex.

[–]QueenSlapFight0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

All of your capitalization makes your argument so much more convincing.

Being redpilled means accepting reality for what it is. That doesn't mean someone has to take their ball and run home because a girl was a big meanie to them. It means if you accept the way the world is, you can try to live in it and use the way it works to your advantage. If you aren't a big open wound about the disloyal nature of women (which you should've already assumed in the first place), you can accept it and use it to your advantage. That doesn't make you a cuckold (god damn you like saying that, it's like the 50th time. Fetish?)

You can’t have threesomes with committed relationships, LTRs and shit like that, why? Because unless you’re a fucking sociopath or psychopath there’s gonna be an emotional connection there

Lol look at this little flower thinking sex is always an emotional connection. Jesus christ guess I'm a sociopath because I've had a looooooot of sex without an emotional connection, and guess what? The girls didn't have one either.

Look, just because you (try) to talk loud doesn't make you right. Call people cucks, sociopaths, clinically insane... whatever. That's your prerogative. But when your position really doesn't match the sidebar of the forum in which you're speaking, it's gonna fall on deaf ears. You're just going to have to accept it.

[–]RedLegendx0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I’M TALKING LTR (COMMITTED RELATIONSHIP) who the fuck said I’m relating sex with emotional connection. I’m so done with this argument, it’s actually like talking to a female.

[–]QueenSlapFight1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol k. Way to melt down and maintain frame guy.

[–]LostInVayne0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

I agree with you. I already told her that I wouldn't have anything like that. You think just saying it popped in my head again, and letting her know it's okay for her to experiment, is the way to go about it?

[–]ananyo0074 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Be cool about it. Say something like

Oh I thought you said you'd have me experiment with other girls

Then let her know you're cool with her experimenting. Slowly escalate with asking her how it's going, all the way to getting in on the action.

Most importantly, enjoy your relationship bro. Long term relationships are not supposed to be a marathon on eggshells with constant vigilance.

[–]LostInVayne0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I see. Don't you think that'll make me in a weaker spot though? Allowing something like that to happen, can lead her to think I am not really firm with what I say and stuff like that.

[–]ananyo0070 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you're good with words, there's millions of ways you can kick the topic of conversation around to get to the point where you can talk about what she said earlier.

You're reading too much into this. She won't mind as much talking about it as much as she'd subconsciously register the fact that you are insecure about her just bringing up the idea of wanting to experiment with other girls.

[–]KrissVectorEOC3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

  1. Stop fucking talking to her about it. You're not going to be able to reason and it doesn't matter what she says anyway because you might or might not believe her since she can say whatever just to get you to stop bringing it up.
  2. Continue on in the LTR as you wish. Move on mentally in regards to this. Don't let the shit stew in your brain and fuck anything up. Continue to watch out for actions that are red flags, work on yourself/lift/career, and if shit hits the fan where you need to dump her then you'll already have other girls lined up to see because you still remained social and attractive in general.

[–]Bedtimeshine2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’d tell her she’s free to do as she pleases because I wouldn’t commit to someone that disloyal and that has such low boundaries. And I’d tell we are now casual

[–]grillinsteaks1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Not cheating because she told you before hand. Be glad she told you now. Consider if you really want her as LTR, as in married some day, and if a bi girl is your style, and if you’re into this type of open relationship. For now, enjoy her honesty, take control, pick the girl and have a threesome. If she just goes behind your back and fucks a girl, this is bad. Really bad. How did you allow that to happen???

[–]Musicgoon2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

"Cool! I like the idea of you sharing a side of your sexuality with me. Now we can explore this together".

If she doesn't jive with this idea, the rule is; if she's allowed to date other women alone you will do the same.

So she tells you about her date with Karen and you inform her of the concert to you took Julie to when she was out.

[–]fretty5550 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Deception is the only felony. Keep that in mind when you ponder what things such as cheating really mean.

[–]loox14900 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sloots gonna sloot

[–]sicoks0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hard next

[–]UsernameIWontRegret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It’s not, as long as you can join in.

[–]W_O_M_B_A_T0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

....Also, experimenting with her ex.

[–]TheCarbonProject0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

What is an LTR

[–]mysteryfist0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

"If you can fuck em, so can I." Lay down the law.

[–]GiraffeOnWheels0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

All outcomes are not the same my friends.

[–]WiterS20 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Be proactive instead of reactive. Don't wait for her to go looking for a girl. Tell her "let's go picking the hottest girl".

[–]McVaghunter-2 points-1 points  (9 children) | Copy

The term cheating implies she's yours, so I assume you didn't read the sidebar to learn that a girl is not yours and that it's just your turn, therefore there's no such a thing as cheating RP wise.

AWALT means there are no special LTR material ones. So cut that blue pill monogamous moral bullshit and LIVE a little.

I'm so sick of this "demoting and promoting and green flags and not LTR material" bullshit. Deep down most of the fuckers in this sub are still dreaming of finding that special girl, and it's time to wake the fuck up.

[–]xX_bullitt_Xx4 points5 points  (8 children) | Copy

What you should be sick of is the "it's just your turn" trope. Agree that a girl isn't yours, but if you're the prize you won't have this mindset. Flip it around; if you're a high value male she's lucky to get a shot with you.

[–]xxx69harambe69xxx3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

to deny the just your turn idea is delusional

its in their nature

if you build a relationship unnaturally, and your smv isnt astronomical, youre likely to fail. you must be at peace with the natural world we live in

[–]xX_bullitt_Xx5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

Why isn't it "just their turn?" You're ignoring the essence of my argument. I'm not saying a man should expect anything other than AWALT, but the idea that we're "lucky" to have the chance to spend time with a girl is just idiotic. They want a prize male next to them just as much as we want a tight pussy next to us. Don't deny nature but don't deny that they can be the lucky one just as much as you can.

[–]xxx69harambe69xxx0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

ah tru

[–]McVaghunter0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

It says "your turn" in TRP because guys coming here for help and advice are usually average looking at best to say the least (hint their pussy problems), they're still blue pilled and haven't realized that SMV matters. So, if we're talking an average looking dude with his average looking girl then yes he's "lucky to have the chance to spend time with her" because she can get new dick instantly while he can't get new pussy without weeks of trying.

Sure, when your SMV is high enough you could say "she's not yours, it's just her turn", but we're talking about a SMV level where you're the prize and girls are actually lucky to be with you. And even then, a high SMV girl will still be able still get infinitely more sexual partners than you ever could.

Let's just say "it's not yours, it's just temporary".

[–]xX_bullitt_Xx1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I agree with most of this

[–]QueenSlapFight0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

True. And now that she's shown she isn't good enough for OP should he take his ball and run home because she was a meanie, or turn it into threesomes with hotter chicks and have some lols over it? He should really embrace not giving a fuck.

[–]xX_bullitt_Xx1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You only live once

[–]RedLegendx0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly, I’ve never agreed with that stupid sentence, like the damn bitch is a trophy that you can use for a limited time, bitch IM the trophy, I’m the price, it’s HER turn with me.

[–]BusterVadge0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

If you're evil you should see if you can hook up a threesome before you demote.

[–]QueenSlapFight0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

How is that evil? She literally has shown her lack of loyalty, and a desire to have sex with other women. OP might as well get a participation trophy out of it and her bullshit waste of his time.

[–]BusterVadge0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Women are not loyal in general. And a woman's desire to fuck other women and be gay isn't evil. It just means that OP needs to end that relationship and find someone who's more suited to him.

[–]QueenSlapFight1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Point being there's nothing "evil" about hooking up a threesome and later demoting.

[–]Comeandseemeforonce0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lmao red flag. That said, if my LTR wanted to experiment with a girl I’d let her, I’d be watching though. I don’t think she’d let me join though but I wouldn’t want to if she didn’t ¯\(ツ)/¯. Inb4 soft cuck!1!!

[–]Sylvester_Sterone0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sounds like a grade A shit test to me.

Hopefully you didn't explain to her that it is cheating. Best response would have been a cheeky smile with "I'm down."

[–]Protocol_Apollo-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy

As long as the red flag(s) isn’t the experimenting thing.

[–]LostInVayne1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

What do you mean?

[–]Protocol_Apollo-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

As in, her wanting to experiment with other girls shouldn’t be the reason to dump her.

That isn’t a red flag.

[–]justin_w95-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

“Either She’ll be a plate or she’s nothing to me” Sounds like you have your answer. If a threesome isn’t what you want out of her “experimenting” and that is a boundary for you which she doesn’t respect then she’s cut off or plated

[–]LostInVayne0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You know the thing is, after I told her that I do consider it cheating. She said that she never looked at it from my perspective, and now she understands and would never do it. Which made me just question her honesty even more.

[–]xxx69harambe69xxx1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

bruh ur too smart for this slut

[–]Nergaal-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

The fact that you care kinda implies oneitis. You allowed yourself to treat her higher than what her actions are telling your gut. Partially your fault, but definitely not LTR material if it irks your gut.

[–]Zanford-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's a shit test to see how you will react - she might be trying to frustrate you like a classic shit test, or she might be dangling three-way bait to keep you interested in her (and that in turn might just be fantasy bait, or she might be genuinely interested in three-ways and girl girl stuff herself). You are correct that she doesn't sound particularly LTR worthy but if you have a We Need To Break Up conversation over this, you are overreacting (that WOULD be called for if she talked about herself 'experimenting' with other guys).

Calmly let her know that she has to run prospective 'other women' by you and that the ultimate purpose of any 'experimentation' is for her to recruit other girls for a three-way with the two of you. Don't make it sound like you are insecure about being cheated on with or left for a girl, though. Just respond like, "Let me know when you have a girl in mind, and we'll arrange a three-way."



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