Just found my now ex-gf has been fucking 50+ sugar daddies in the last 9 months. I'm sick to my stomach.

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February 17, 2020

Long story short, been dating a super hot 24 year old who works at a sports bar place like a Hooters. When we were together, she played the innocent little girl the whole time. Is in school 4 days a week, works the other 3, then sees me after school a few times during the weeks. Told me she wasn't seeing anyone else, she loved me, wanted a future with me etc. She never flaked on me, paid for me on dates, did everything that made me think she wanted me.

However, she was a party girl. After works she'd go out, without me of course, with her whore friends and do coke and get blacked out. My emotional attachment to her prevented me from ending things.

Anyway, her best friend, a hot 21 year old with 50k+ instagram followers has a sugar daddy she sees regularly. 60 something years old, drives a Rolls Royce, worth hundreds of millions, and pays her $5000 every time they fuck.

My now ex claims that she would never do that. Low and behold, I get suspicious and find her on the most popular sugar dating website, and I called her out on it. She says her friend made it for her when they were drunk and she doesn't use it. Yet when I read her phone, she was laughing about me finding out and lying to me.

She came over the other day, blacked out drunk, and for 5 hours I went through her phone. I read every dm, and every text message. She was messaging at least 50 or more different sugar daddies, all offering $600 or more to fuck or for a blow job. She''d text her whore friend saying she's gonna suck their dicks so good they come back every week. She's also been fucking her ex, and multiple other guys. If I had to guess, in the last 9 months, she probably fucked 60-80 guys while telling me I'm the only guy she sees.

I drove her to her car after she woke up from the drunken stupor, told her never to contact me again and that was it.

But I'm still emotionally saddened by this. I got played by this girl for so fucking long, nothing but lies the whole time, while in reality, she was just a legitimate whore the whole time.

How do I fucking get over this and shake this? I haven't slept, ate, anything. I'm so fucking disgusted by this.

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Title Just found my now ex-gf has been fucking 50+ sugar daddies in the last 9 months. I'm sick to my stomach.
Author hopingforclearskin
Upvotes 262
Comments 254
Date 17 February 2020 05:31 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/337594
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[–]monky-loves-you467 points468 points  (39 children) | Copy

We call them red flags for a reason:

works in a hooters

party girl

slutty friends

What happened to you is a direct result of you ignoring these in order to LTR up this walking fleshlight. Don't feel too bad, it's happened to many of us. Learn from this experience so you don't get played again.

[–]Endorsed ContributorUEMcGill183 points184 points  (33 children) | Copy

I know a girl, she's a part-time hairdresser, works at hooters the other 3 days a week. She has blue hair and a full arm sleeve. I know that in college (she dropped out) she had a reputation for a party girl, but that's not verifiable. She fucks like a racehorse and can suck dick for hours. Also, she goes radio silent for hours at a time but she always gets back to me.

I feel like she's worth taking a chance on.

LTR material or what?!?

[–]hopingforclearskin[S] 91 points92 points  (27 children) | Copy

Lmao so close to being accurate. Except it's a chest tattoo, half sleeve, dropped out of high school, wouldn't text me back at night but always in morning and would say she fell asleep. Lmfao it's like a big fucking slap in the face.

[–]RPthrowaway12363 points64 points  (6 children) | Copy

Chest tattoos are the biggest turnoff for me...who the hell decided that was an "in" thing?! Lol

[–]mortalcoil12 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

[–]spndxwra6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

"once i got off my anti-depressants.." click. end of watching for me..


/ 0_o \

[–]PirateWave1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Are you me? literally clicked off at the same point.

What a mess...

[–]mortalcoil11 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Well it's how she hates all of her tats.

[–]PinacoladaSauce11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oh I fuckin love em my guy. Would never LTR a girl with them they’re like massive slut indicators but I think they’re fucking hot. Plus... target practice ;)

[–]Ivabighairy18 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

Even better: The chest tattoo is a guy’s name.

[–]Ill_mumble_that3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Or a giant penis, with a guy's name on the shaft.

[–]Batman-von-Pepe1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Or the face of the dude from twilight.

[–]sirdaaz5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

As Corey wayne would say: “c’mon man!”

[–]Tambamwham2 points3 points  (15 children) | Copy

No it’s not. It’s par for the course. You shouldn’t even have said anything and just let her be fuck buddy that you hit up twice a week to nut on and then focus on improving yourself and your own path in life. I wouldn’t even have told her I knew and if she found out I did know or tried to come at me about my distance or finding out about me pursuing other women... I would have put her in her place by telling her I don’t care that she has sugar daddies and we are just casual. I think she was perfect fuck buddy material

[–]dkt231 points32 points  (3 children) | Copy

fe. I wouldn’t even have told her I knew and if she found out I did know or tried to come at me about my distance or finding out about me pursuing other women... I would have put her in her place b

Faggot loser advice. Definitely don't spend anymore time around this manipulative energy suck. I see this advice too frequently here. Take it from my first hand experience, don't listen to this guy.

[–]GonadGravy12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

I’ve been saying this for years. But someone in this sub always comes out and suggests to keep having sex with a lying manipulative slut who humiliated them.

Guys, don’t give up your dignity and self respect for a rotten cunt like OP’s ex. Keeping that slut in your life will only hurt you the pussy is never worth it. In OP’s case, she was a sex worker fucking anyone with enough cash. Women like that are walking talking Petri dishes. Her vagina is like a Motel 6 bed, anyone with a few bucks can slide in for the night. At the least you’ll catch something nasty, worst she fucks you up for life.

[–]askmrcia6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’ve been saying this for years. But someone in this sub always comes out and suggests to keep having sex with a lying manipulative slut who humiliated them.

People on this sub have so little options that they will take sex from where ever they can get it.

Its very common to see people on this sub to give advice on to keep sleeping with their exes. I also believe that a lot of people here get their validations from women only. Like they feel validated that an ex still chooses to sleep with them.

To be fair I don't see this from endorsed members or guys who seem to be older then 30. Its usually mid 20s and younger, which seems like the demographic that gave this sub a bad name.

[–]hopingforclearskin[S] 2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy

Nah you're absolutely right, but I grew emotionally attached to her. I tried for over a year not to but I wasn't able to.

[–]spndxwra0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

yeh if ya like slops..


[–]Tambamwham-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good luck finding a girl where you’re not...

[–]Huntbutt2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]RodDiddy3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I hope yoi guys are wearing a HAZMAT suit when your fucking these walking pitri dishes!

[–]WasteIntern1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Tradcon wife material. She won't cheat even if you lose your job.

[–]Balls_Wellington_1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

fucks like a racehorse

I'm not sure this is a good thing

[–]PizzaAndProtein0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

A plate broke last night and I'm so glad I read this.

Despite knowing it wouldn't last, it still stings a bit when it happens.

[–]1jacques_cousteau00710 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

You won’t find it on the sidebar, but you need to hear this shit heavy

[–]aLL1HU10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hahaha, that brought back memories.

My buddy played this for me when I was venting about a ho I fell in love with back in the early 2000s that I randomly bumped into at a busy restaurant while she was with another dude.

I remember feeling like shit that day, then he played that song, and I realized that I was being a jackass. Good times.

[–]markinsinz77 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

The real problem though comes later on when this hooter girl becomes 27 or whatever and is now cleaned up her act. How the fuck do you make the judgement call then?

[–]GGrub82 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Blunt and to the point, without unecessary patronizing and contempt to OP. This is the kind of replies we need here.

[–]spedoid100 points101 points  (14 children) | Copy

Imagine marrying a disgusting skank like that. The sad thing is literally every single hot girl these days has considered this. It's free money. Why suck some college kids dick for free when you can blow an older guy for five grand? These slut women are just making money off the system. Hard next

[–]Hungboy696942041 points42 points  (10 children) | Copy

Confirmed im on sugar daddy websites and was during college. Met many girls from my college and neighboring schools who fucked dudes for cash on there. Honestly can't blame them. $500 to suck a dick for an hour? You ain't making that in the office or waiting tables

[–]flipthecatjack8 points9 points  (5 children) | Copy

Hell, that’d beat a shitty 9-5 any day of the week

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[–]Standgrounding10 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy

Tbh I would

[–]NoMoreUncontrollable6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

You can. Do it

[–]Standgrounding8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

would u pay tho

[–]NoMoreUncontrollable0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I could find you people who would. 30/70

[–]NoMoreUncontrollable4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Why don't you suck dick then yourself. Good money dude

[–]Hungboy69694200 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Maybe I have ;)

[–]NoMoreUncontrollable0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Maybe you make so much money doing it that you wonna share that with a random me.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

same I have an extensive amateur porn collection from the college whores I have fucked. Love tracking them down and looking at their happy couple photos on Insta. Women are trash these days. Use them like disposable cum dumpsters.

[–]markinsinz713 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

The truth is someday some guy will. Oh and this guy might not even end up being a weak ass bitch nah he would be a 6ft+ jacked tattoo, decent dollars in the bank with a great social life basically a high smv guy and he would marry this whore.

This is what the game has become with technology.

This is why marriage actually sucks. Yes 1 downside is the financial fall but the real core of the problem is you could have the most alpha frame and perfectly manage your relationship with comfort and she'd still go and suck some random dick, why?

Cause her pair bonding is fucked.

Long time ago she got addicted to different guys , just like porn this addiction creeped in slowly

Oh and Just so guys around here stop taking solace in "oh the bitch will hit the wall"

Guess fuckin what (and I'm speculating here but a point is being made) nearly all the pornstars of the 90s 2000s and now 2010s settled down with kids all the while husband not knowing his wife used to be a whore.

The truth is these girls only eventually lose the attention but they'll still have a chump ready to get down on a knee.

[–]immortal_wound4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah I married one, OP lucky mofo tho lmao

[–]halleluiaiaia9292134 points135 points  (4 children) | Copy

How do you get over this? You kidding right? This is a blessing man. Virtually nothing better to help you get over it.

I can understand struggling to get over a relationship where maybe you made mistakes, were too needy or so on and feel regret because she left you.

But in a situation like this? What the hell is there to get over?

She is a thot.

[–]RedditCantGetMyEmail31 points32 points  (1 child) | Copy

You guys often act like we men don't have feelings / emotions. Sure, it's damn good riddance, and in a couple of months he will look back and be thankful for the lesson he was taught by this incident. But for the first couple days/weeks it's completely normal to feel devastated.

@ /u/hopingforclearskin:
Something I reminded myself when I was in a similar situation emotionally: remember that the pain you're feeling is normal and to be expected. But that doesn't mean that you have to suffer. Pain doesn't mean suffering. Suffering is just the result of trying to fight against the reality that's causing the pain.

Give yourself time to suffer. But not more than a couple of days. Set a specific end-date. After that date, you go back to being a man, hit the weights, read some books, connect with friends and grow as a person.

[–]halleluiaiaia92925 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agree. He still needs to internalise what i said tho. That will help him “get over it”.

[–]think_909090924 points25 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah seriously, it's not like it's a big loss.

[–]LostInVayne0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I am not in a similar situation but what you said made me think about something I am currently going through. Much appreciated.

[–]Elprez9135 points36 points  (1 child) | Copy

Nothing surprises me anymore, keep that in mind with everything brother.

[–]nathan55bailey14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nothing should. Even the most conservative girl in an Islamic country can cheat on you if you don't notice the irregularities in her behaviours. And the sad truth is that you may not even notice them.AWALT. They're pretty good liars. However when in doubt, trust your gut feeling. Because most of the time it works.

[–]Riddick_40 points41 points  (0 children) | Copy

Your ex... well. You can call them sugar daddies. Or whatever the fuck: older dudes paying for sex. Stop telling yourself lies. She's a prostitute. And that's not going to change. At this point why would you care. I'm sorry this happened to you. Get tested and move on.

[–]Lateralanouncer30 points31 points  (7 children) | Copy

That’s what a single woman’s phone looks like. 100+ tinder matches. Sugar daddies. Free holidays. Etc.

[–]Hungboy69694203 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy

I mean sugar daddies are on specific sites and not all women go there. Tinder is much more common

[–]Lateralanouncer17 points18 points  (3 children) | Copy

This is what a cc riders phone looks like. Tinderalers, sugar babies all the same. A plate showed me her tinder gold account. 180 men messaging her with all kinds of offers. Shopping. Gifts. Travel everything. She could scroll through her matches of attractive 6 sixes men. She could get a fuck whenever she wanted and she did. She had a Monday guy. Tuesday guy Wednesday guy etc etc.

I just googled it. Damn it’s more common that we think.

SeekingArrangement's “sugar baby university” campaign encourages college students to join the service as a way of combating student debt. Approximately 3 million college students in the United States are registered on SeekingArrangement, making up about 37 percent of the more than 8 million sugar baby users.

[–]CrazyNicholad11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is sick. It makes me sicker than what this hooker did to OP.

[–]Hungboy69694205 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yea like I mentioned in another comment, I met many of these girls. It's spreading socially very quickly

[–]hopingforclearskin[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is what she was on. And this is how she's probably been paying for her tuition, and everything else.

[–]smgtn4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

This slut I met from Seeking Arrangement was for a moment confused if I was from Tinder. So I obviously asked why the confusion and she said guys are sometimes offering her "arrangements" on Tinder as well.

[–]Don_Draper2771 points72 points  (19 children) | Copy

Don’t do LTR’s and get yourself tested for STD’s ASAP

[–]hopingforclearskin[S] 46 points47 points  (17 children) | Copy

I went this morning.

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[–]hopingforclearskin[S] 24 points25 points  (13 children) | Copy

I've never cum from a blowjob before her but she definitely knew what she was doing. Two hands, spit, you name it. And she had the tightest/best feeling pussy I've been with. Shit was like heroin but whatever. More to come.

And are you saying I should be proud because I got it for free?

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[–]hopingforclearskin[S] 21 points22 points  (4 children) | Copy

I tried for months to keep my emotions out of it but once they developed I couldn't get rid of it. It's better for me that she's gone permanently instead of just fucking because I'd never be able to keep it to just that.

[–]MardGeer2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

That sucks brother, emotional control is super hard. You did the right thing.

[–]alittletoosmooth7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

These situations require a "rip the band-aid off" approach. Cold turkey is the only way. Hope you enjoyed the ride OP! She sounds like a good time! What app was this? For research purposes of course.

[–]hmsthinkingmeat3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

The crazy ones always give the best sex.

It's an ironic red flag.

[–]According-Cod2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

No dude, you should have demoted her to a fuck buddy, kept getting your nuts off

[–]hopingforclearskin[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah oh well. I'm sure I could get her back as a fuck buddy if I ever have a change of heart. Unlikely though. Won't be hard to find someone else

[–]babybopp13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nah don't listen to such bad advice..

She cucked u

Made fun of u..

Put u at risk for STDs..

Herpes ain't no joke. Move on, slay some new pussy.. Leave the community pussy be..

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[–]hopingforclearskin[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'd love to know why I developed feelings for her. Just so I can avoid doing it in the future. I truly don't know why I did.

[–]According-Cod0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yooooo FACTS

[–]Don_Draper277 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good luck. Always wrap up, don’t date these types of girls. Just learn from this.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev34 points35 points  (19 children) | Copy


^ This right here. She's not your problem anymore.

My now ex claims that she would never do that. Low and behold, I get suspicious and find her on the most popular sugar dating website, and I called her out on it. She says her friend made it for her when they were drunk and she doesn't use it.

Trickle truth.

She came over the other day, blacked out drunk, and for 5 hours I went through her phone. I read every dm, and every text message. She was messaging at least 50 or more different sugar daddies, all offering $600 or more to fuck or for a blow job. She''d text her whore friend saying she's gonna suck their dicks so good they come back every week. She's also been fucking her ex, and multiple other guys. If I had to guess, in the last 9 months, she probably fucked 60-80 guys while telling me I'm the only guy she sees.

Good riddance to bad trash.

But I'm still emotionally saddened by this. I got played by this girl for so fucking long, nothing but lies the whole time, while in reality, she was just a legitimate whore the whole time.

Harden the fuck up. You were getting for free what other simps were paying $600 for.

How do I fucking get over this and shake this? I haven't slept, ate, anything. I'm so fucking disgusted by this.

Man the fuck up.

[–]hopingforclearskin[S] 21 points22 points  (5 children) | Copy

This is true. I didn't pay for anything ever. And the best thing that came out of reading her texts was her telling her friend that I was the best at sex that she'd been with. I guess there's solace in that.

Thanks for the comment.

[–]Rememberthecodex8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Imagine sucking dicks and thinking about how good was your ex instead of this fat old guy with pubic hair going in her mouth and understanding that all of this shit is going on because she is a fucking whore.

[–]MrRoxo4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

Now you know why she was paying for everything

[–]hopingforclearskin[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Lol are you saying because she was fucking dudes for money so that's why she was paying for me?

[–]MrRoxo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


[–]RedPill20180 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Your a sick fuck

I love it

[–]holddadoorhodor11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

I like the getting the free pussy part. I wish I had looked at it that way when I went through a similar situation.

OP just know that this hollow shell of a human you dated will never be happy and in 2-5 years she’s going to look like Amy Winehouse if she had woken up and you’d be wanting to trade her in for a better version.

You win long term she loses.

[–]According-Cod10 points11 points  (11 children) | Copy

What really gets me is that he was the ONLY one getting that good wet wet for free but his emotions bested him

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev18 points19 points  (3 children) | Copy

It’s no fun getting played, but if he had the Frame to get that ho’ for free he should be spinning her, her hot friend, plus 1-3 others.

Verdict: The OP just got redpilled, hard. I hope he LURNS.

[–]According-Cod9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

Let that be his origin story🤘

[–]Standgrounding0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

A field report

[–]mickey__1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Like a true uncle

[–]Tambamwham-1 points0 points  (6 children) | Copy

He’s an idiot for even saying anything. He had a girl to practice his game on... and his stroke game on as a matter of fact....and and he had an out if he ever wanted to take it. He could have practiced the art of NGAF but he had emotions for her? Why? I can’t imagine what she did to earn his emotions besides just being a girl that said yes to him.

[–]hopingforclearskin[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I had emotions for her because I met her when I was depressed about my previous ex cheating on me so she replaced her and I had developed oneitis for her.

[–]HurricaneHugues0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

No it was too late. The disrespect was already done. Only way to reverse this is if he literally became her pimp and had her fucking and sucking so he can collect cash.

[–]Tambamwham0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

There is no need to reverse it. Just plate her. Could easily be done.

[–]HurricaneHugues0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Plating her isn't gonna do anything but show how pathetic and weak you are.

[–]Tambamwham0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Plating her would show the opposite of that. He spent the last year being weak and pathetic.

[–]Tambamwham0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The disrespect has been going on for you for a year. And he responded to it incorrectly.

[–]aynullwithyourmom10 points11 points  (8 children) | Copy

Def sounds like a sociopath. You probably weren’t her only boyfriend and she probably never gave a fuck about you. That sucks bro must be traumatizing

[–]hopingforclearskin[S] 8 points9 points  (7 children) | Copy

She never cared. That's the hardest part of this for me.

[–]Nastynatee19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dude that girl isnt capable of loving anything or anyone. Its meaningless. you fell in love with the ideal, the image you projected onto her, while at the same time ignoring who she really was. Cut the shit and find other girls man.

[–]holddadoorhodor0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The person you fell for never existed, and the fact that you left with your dignity and killed the “relationship” on the spot should give you solace.

[–]Tambamwham0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That’s the part that should have made you the most excited andnfeel free.

[–]Westernhagen0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Even the ones who do care, it's only temporary, and they too will inevitably reach a point where they truly believe (and act like) they never cared.

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[–]Nastynatee0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Oh stfu dude this is pussy soyboy advice for Christs sake. Fuck.. smh

[–]aynullwithyourmom1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This guy sounds young and inexperienced and his first relationship experience involved being manipulated by a sociopath. Dude is probably fucked up emotionally. Lifting and fucking new bitches might cover up the pain but he probably has some issues in his psyche now that need to be dealt with by a professional

[–]2319Skew10 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy

Be glad you never married her. Her relationship to you is over. You can grow from this and let this make you into a better man.

She will hit a wall. She'll find some chump and downplay her slutty ways. He'll feel lucky to find someone that made him work for her sex because she's a good girl.

Fast forward 2 kids later and he's stuck working 60 hr work weeks to pay for the family not knowing one of those kids isn't his. Each time she'll bitch about how he never takes her anywhere because her friends all have husbands who are awesome and he will masturbate to petite Asians online because she is not in the mood.

Meanwhile, you're banging women in their 20s while enjoying all the money you saved from not getting married and doing whatever the fuck you want.

You should be sending her flowers and thanking her for this lesson.

[–]hopingforclearskin[S] 6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

It's amazing how much better I feel today than I did yesterday. It's like a huge weight has been lifted from my shoulders that she's no longer my problem.

[–]2319Skew8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

Good. Write down all the reasons why. Keep that list. When your mind goes back to the delicate wall flower that you remember her to be then read that list.

[–]Rememberthecodex2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy


With time your mind will search her back if you don't have other pussies.

You have to write something that will last and understand that the interest was only driven by sexual qualities that a lot of other girls have.

Focus on the bad things and remember, because those will save you from misery in the future

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Meanwhile, you're banging women in their 20s while enjoying all the money you saved from not getting married and doing whatever the fuck you want.

Hey! You stole my bio! /lol

[–]SalporinRP12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy

You LTR'd an uneducated hooters waitress whore with too many red flags to count because you sacrificed your standards for pussy, and you walked away with no charges, no physical injuries, and without a kid.

I'd say you got off light.

This girl was bad news from the start and you knew it but you charged blindly ahead anyways. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

[–]hopingforclearskin[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You couldn't be more right. I'll know better next time around.

[–]CrazyNicholad0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

He did get off light. Hurt emotionally but nothing that'll be a weight around his neck for the rest of his life like a kid or a felony charge.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (8 children) | Copy

I'm sorry to hear that man. This is going to seem radical, but there really isn't a way to come back from this and not be thinking about this every second of every day. You need to work on yourself hard, mate. You need to find a mission. I believe you know you shouldn't have even been with a girl like that from the get-go, and the signs were blinking neon red for you to not be in a relationship with this type of girl. This to me reflects an inherent self-disrespect and low self-esteem. You are way better than the situation you allowed yourself to be.

I would honestly try to find yourself and build yourself up to be the best version of yourself and get a new identity where you can't allow yourself to remember something like this again or to be a sucker again. I'm sorry, man, i feel for you, bro. It's a messed up world, and she kept you around bc you made her feel good. And she wasn't even going to tell you, or even come close to suggesting it. But good, innocent girls don't do coke and black out regularly.

Bro, here's my suggestion. You need to go the opposite direction of your life and do something like volunteer. Surround yourself with good people, and learn to have faith in people again. Because you are going to have trust issues. Workout, develop a skill, change your name if you have to, bc this will hit hard. Once you change from who you are now, you will be like I didn't get cheated on, but the old person did. Time will pass and it will heal, but do not make the mistake of filling that void and emptiness by chasing more girls. It's an endless cycle. Going against the TRP grain here, but I don't think fucking more girls to make yourself feel valuable is the long term solution. Your foundation needs to change, and who your essence is has to change. Good luck, man. That's a tough situation, and I'll pray that you find the guidance in your life to improve.

[–]hopingforclearskin[S] 4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy

Thanks a lot for this comment. There were red flags that I'm embarrassed to mention that I knew she wasn't going to be good. But being with her helped get over my previous ex who cheated and I ended up liking this girl more than anyone I had been with. I don't have a purpose in life, don't have an abundant lifestyle outside of work.

Yes, I made her feel good. But for the longest time I had a feeling she didn't care about me until she told me she loved and had feeling for me for a long time but was always waiting on me to say it first. She couldn't even remember my birthday or things I talked about so I know she really didn't care for me as close to as much as I did for her.

As for chasing after girls, that's the last thing I want to do right now. If anything this all just makes me want to avoid them for a long time.

Thanks a lot for your comment.

[–]riggedved2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

She couldn't even remember my birthday or things I talked about so I know she really didn't care for me as close to as much as I did for her.

My ex-LTR, who I ended it with because of red flags did this on my birthday:

5 days before, leading up to the birthday: A "handmade" gift everyday. some of them required hours and hours of work.

On my birthday:

She gave me a hand made card, where she draws a female crotch, and writes "wish you were here"

Gifts me a Limited Edition Vinyl of Radiohead's latest album, a band who I'm a HUGE fan off. They produced only 200 copies of the limited Vinyl.

Vinyl?? Hth am I supposed to play them? Well, she gifted me a vinyl player too.

Still, I broke up with her in 2 months. Why? Because of Red Flags. One of the red flags was on my damned birthday itself. I was watching a movie with her. She says "my head's aching, lets leave." I was actually enjoying the movie, but I took one for her and we left the movie theatre. My plan was to watch a movie with her and then meet my cousins because they bought a cake and everything for me to celebrate my birthday. So when we exited the movie theatre, I sat with her for 10 minutes. Then I told her, "I gotta leave for my cousins"

My lil cousin sister, only 3, video called me saying that shes waiting for me. My aunt called me multiple times, saying that dinner and cake is ready and "we're all waiting for you.". This was all happening in front of my ex. Yet, when I said I'll leave, she completely lost her shit. Saying shit like "you dont care about me" "I'm not feeling right, but you've got other things to do rather than be with me."

That day I realised that she didn't respect my family. That was the only Red Flag (TM) I needed to cut it out with an 8 (sexy eyes, 5'8", beautiful slim body, the most gorgeous and tight pussy)

I liked the tip where the guy asks you to volunteer. Volunteering will really help you get out of your situation. I feel sorry for you brother, you deserve better. She is already damaging herself psychologically by being with so many men. Her life is gone. You still have yours. So you still have the power. Use it.

[–]volvostupidshit1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good job on spotting the red flag and doing something about it. That bitch is going to manipulate you into oblivion.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

no problem, bro. Find your mission and put yourself in environments where you can give value and be appreciated. You wasted enough time on dead end people.

Surround yourself with excellence and try to look beyond your environment, and things will be better. Destroy the beta, and release the alpha. Inspire yourself out to be great. Good luck

[–]Hadabah2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

My situation ain't as bad as urs. But basically, a girl kept me around cause I made her feel good. Saw the red flags, ignored it.

Was at a low point in my life, my dad had died, family issues came up & she was more or less my only outlet- big mistake. Plus, being assaulted as a toddler by a woman did a number on me- always blind sided me; whenever a woman feigned the slightest interest even remotely, she was to be worshiped! silly me.

In psychotherapy for a few months now. it is working. Still a long way to go though.

My plan for this year; Increase my savings, plan for investing, self growth, focus on my hobbies (am going to concerts, events, doing math & programming, etc), planning for my masters, career. I dress better, I work out at least 6 hours a week, sleep better. I like how am growing.

Focus on urself. For the first few weeks, don't ignore those lingering painful feelings u have for how it ended, instead, u can dedicate a scheduled time off each day, say for like 10 minutes at the end of the day, to process those feelings. And for the rest of the day, don't think abt them- remind urself that u have set aside a time to go over the fact that she just used u and discarded u like a toy.

Funny bit: I now have more female friends. genuine nice people- helps to view women as just that; people! and also helps to get over trust issues with women in general- they are just people; some are shitty and some aren't.

[–]Westernhagen0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

A damaged person like her is probably incapable of caring.

[–]Hadabah0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

he kept you around bc you made her feel good

I fuckin put her on a damn pedastool!.

[–]slater12080 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is really good advice

[–]PiperBigBell14 points15 points  (2 children) | Copy

This is the importance of acting like a total fun player in the beginning. I don't worry about womem lieing to me because i don't give off sweet boyfriend vibes. When you give off the player vibe, and through conversation she knows you're up on game, she'll tell you whatever you want to know.

Body count. No matter how high. Who she's fucking. When. How rich. Craziest experiences. All of that. I don't give her any leverage for wanting to be dishonest. And once I fuck her good a few times, I slowly reveal the full extent of my personality and knowledge.

I start from a position of strength and only get stronger.

[–]holddadoorhodor6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’ve always tried to do this naturally, it’s the only way to veg for LTR. Hint impossible nowadays. You definitely articulated this well.

[–]HurricaneHugues5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

This 1000%. I just assume they're all hoes and act accordingly. They tell you everything.

[–]Psychoticface[🍰] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

This is good for you, it's your initiation into the red pill. Just like a secret society has a painful initiation it is a necessary part of changing a life course. Without it, you would have no real life experience and online knowledge alone would go over your head.

[–]watchguy454 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I would agree.

Reading all this theory is great and necessary, but to be able to go out and apply it and take it seriously you must experience it firsthand

[–]beholdthemaverick4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

This sucks to hear ma man, but welcome to your Redpill Batman Origins moment. Your gut knew she wasn’t good for you before you promoted her to LTR, but you probably ignored the glaring red flags. You wanted to make it work. It’s okay. It is what it is.

Your ego is going to be in shambles for a little while, let’s call it what it is. You’re only human. But the silver lining is that you’ve been blessed with emotional leverage to take your life to the next level.

As long as you channel this anger, frustration, and pain, you can one day wake up and be grateful this happened to you.

[–]juliank475 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Learn and move on.

Next time make sure you vet your LTRs and don’t end up with another piece of shit like this.

[–]volvostupidshit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

LTR only if you know how to play the game well.

[–]quickdrawmccaw5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Atleast you are familiar with this community. I would find a way to pay her back for this one. Without violence or anything like that. I’d expose her to her family. Nothing more embarrassing than you’re entire family knowing you’re literally a whore

[–]rangat424 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thank you for sharing this story. Many guys need to read it and learn from it. Guys need to learn to NEVER get into a LTR with a girl like this:

However, she was a party girl. After works she'd go out, without me of course, with her whore friends and do coke and get blacked out.

[–]IMADETHIS143 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yo bro went through a similar situation with my ex who I dated for 5 years.towards the end of the 5 years she started selling pics phone sex etc. You don’t want to turn her into a fwb it will do more damage than good. My advice would be to block her on everything you shouldn’t give a shit whether you look hurt or not, she’s a prostitute nothing more nothing less. Feel free to message me if you need any support

[–]RPthrowaway1233 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

She screwed over 50 sugar daddies in 9 months?!

All jokes aside, first of all get tested. Second of all, she's a whore and there's nothing you can do now but move forward...which has been covered extensively by everyone else. So all I'm going to say is stay strong, remember awalt, get tested, and hit the gym. Throw yourself into something that will give you a distraction and a positive direction.

Look at it this way, a lesson you learned the hard way is a lesson you'll remember.

[–]lukesterboi13 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Birds of a feather flock together.

And dude, she works for fucking Hooters. That's like Sluts Incorporated. Do NOT catch feels (or a disease) from anyone who works there

[–]HurricaneHugues3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

"Long story short, been dating a super hot 24 year old who works at a sports bar place like a Hooters."

Let me stop you right there.

[–]ta_red_light17 points18 points  (9 children) | Copy

And this is why, dear gentleman of TRP, you should never commit to a women. While she's with you - she's probably getting dicked down by other men. All are like that.

There are no unicorns. In an age where female hypergamy is at it's max, committing to a woman is the thing you should never do. OP learned this the hard way.

Read these posts and learn from them cause they are your warning signs.

[–]CharruaNative9 points10 points  (6 children) | Copy

Not true. You can LTR with proper vetting that’s redpill basics

[–]ta_red_light0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

I'm aware of the so called "hard mode" which is being a LTR/Married red pill. I know some guys in the Manosphere are like that, even Rollo Tomassi, but I personally do not subscribe to this idea nor do I recommend it.

In my eyes it's a waste of your time and potential. Regardless of how good your game is, there will always be better dudes than you out there and if your women is still in her prime years and she can attract those dudes who are better than you - she'll do it. AWALT.

OR, your women will eventually lose her looks while your status will go up if you keep on grinding and following your purpose. And of course, with her hitting the wall and depending on her looks, she wont be able to attract a more HVM than you anymore, so of course, your LTR or marriage will go good.

Just like a fat women - your women would have no other choice but to make things work out with you or else she'll lose you and would have to settle with a beta bux.

So yeah, not my cup of tea and not my recommendation for guys.

[–]Jdpnobs0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

This is the sad reality, why go hard mode when life is already hard when you are not in the Chad bracket. All those time spent on your purpose just to bag 1 woman who may be unicorn-like is simply a waste of time when compared to how easy it is for Chads to bag these women. This is 100% reasonable thinking.


Most men don't even know their competition, because of the internet how easy it is for women to get validation (even low level women) from thirsty men and high level guys. Even if she does not cheat and you are the only sexual partner she had, she will eventually see your weaknesses, lose attraction, see you slip all the while being gamed by a younger, taller and more handsome guy she fantasizes about and will probably fuck if opportunity presents itself.


The more pretty a woman the more likely she used that beauty to fuck around. Even 5s can fuck around as much as high level men it is ridiculous how thirsty guys are.


I've seen it with my own eyes, men are tribal and loyal whereas women will cheat if they can get away with a guy 2 levels above you. I came to a realization that for me to see my child, I have to impregnate a woman, won't marry her and do what I can to keep her around for the child to reach an age I can take him and let him learn my ways.


HumanSockPuppet was able to pull off 2 LTRs (both know) and plates, it is possible. Btw u/HumanSockPuppet how the fuck did you pull it off? Do all girls know? The closest thing I can think of is Islam and Cult, make them believe.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I will write a post on this, since it seems to get asked quite a bit. Thanks for your tag.

[–]CharruaNative-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

I get what you’re saying in that there can always be someone better than you - but I feel like you’re taking a defeatist approach to it. You’re saying since there can always be someone better why even try? Because you can reduce your chances of that happening with properly vetting a good woman. Also this may not be true for you, but not everyone wants to keep banging plates till they croak. I for one, want to have kids and extend my lineage as my father and his father before him. How can you do that if you are never in an LTR?

[–]ta_red_light1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's called being wise and not throwing yourself into the lion's den.

When I know what the situation out there is, I'm not going to put my head on the guillotine for it to be brutally chopped off.

You want a family? That's on you. I cannot give you advice for that since that is not my boat to sail in.

[–]hopingforclearskin[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]silvereddi3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sad but true.

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[–]hopingforclearskin[S] 11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy

idk how it goes. Just glad I'll never have to be a guy that pays for pussy.

[–]Kabuki43117 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy

Everyone pays one way or another. Time, money, stress, emotions.

My conclusion is if she's HB5+ chances are she's done this, doing this or considering doing this in future.

[–]hopingforclearskin[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

True that

[–]Hungboy69694202 points3 points  (9 children) | Copy

Lol yep I would tell them just about any number to get them on the date cause I knew I could close if we met up. Worked many times

[–]theherosmyth0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy

You keep playing like you'll pay them? Or are you upfront on the date?

[–]Hungboy69694202 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy

It's just a front to get your foot in the door. Once on the date she doesn't even care half the time and wants to bone

[–]smgtn0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

I don't know, my experience is different. Even those who didn't explicitly ask for money, made it pretty fucking clear eventually during the date and wouldn't even go near my place. Could be cultural-geographical differences, I'm in London.

[–]Hungboy69694200 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Yea big cities might be worse. I did it in a college town and it was great. Tried it in Miami and the girls were much more cut throat

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

In Toronto here. SA peaked awhile ago. Got some great college sluts from 2013 to 2019 to the point where I could start an amateur porn collection. Most sluts on that site now want to make money for minimal action - the amount of whores that strictly want platonic relationships can go to hell. Joining SA was a massive red pill for me. Most of the worthless whores I fucked and photographed had long term boyfriends. I wish I could expose them to their significant others but the country I live in has laws that actively protect whores from any sort of deserved reckoning.

[–]Hungboy69694200 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Or they just wanna sell nudes SMH. there's still some diamonds in the rough lol

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Absolutely. Went on a crazy run last year where I fucked and documented 6 girls. One of them was a math major and aspiring actress. I painted her face like a Jackson Pollock.

[–]Hungboy69694200 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Me too bud must have fucked 20 women last year from SA alone

[–]silvereddi6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Bro, Reading this even makes myself sick. I feel like i want to throw up and it makes me unbelievable angry. Another proof that you just can’t trust any women on this fucking planet. They all lie. Ofc there are girls that have less red flags and some that have more, but just imagining having a ltr with a girl that is acting all sweet and innocent but in reality is sucking 100 cocks is just insanely disgusting. Fucking makes me wanna never enter a LTR ever. How can a man not get trust issues after such proof of despicable reality? Bro, I hope you‘ll get better. I really feel you in this. Time for you to fuck ten other bitches and cumshot their faces.

[–]hopingforclearskin[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hahaha for sure. I had to jump out of the shower to throw up just thinking me kissing and going down her when in reality she probably fucked some guy hours before me.

[–]FrenCan3162 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Step 1: STD test

Step 2: Learn for this (red flags)

Step 3: Get over it, move on

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K182 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

The feeling of being duped is tough.

You need to fight to get over it.

You won. She's turned into a prostitute. They all get hooked on the money until they absolutely nosedive in life.

Nothing to do with you. She got influenced by her fucked up friend, and decides to fuck how many guys just for money? It's levels above full retard.

[–]boy_named_su2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

party girl, hooters, blow, blacked out, whore friends.

you done goofed, son

you made a mistake. you're human, it's allowed. but learn from it

be grateful you found out now, not after she told you she was preggers with your baby

[–]Strongproudwoman4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Live life for yourself man. All these girls are hoes nowadays. Start lifting and get some hobbies. Work on your career and just fuck these girls like they are human sex dolls, clearly they like being treated as such.

You invested too much into her. Invest in yourself.

[–]line_life6 points7 points  (6 children) | Copy

Man the same thing happened to me. I found out 4 months away from our wedding. She was even very stupid at one point she got pregnant and had an abortion. Also one day she got scared of herpes and went to the dr, she was clean but the medical bill was $6000. I helped her pay it off. I forgot to mention she was a church girl and a singer in the choir. And yes, she slept with the choir leader.

When I found out, I literally got sick. Throw up and couldn’t sleep. I confronted her and she basically cried rivers and regretted everything. She even confessed to more fucked up stuff she did that I didn’t know about.

The only thing I was thinking about was revenge. So I forgave her. In the next 8 months, I gave her the love she can only dream of. I mean I went out of my way and showed her the best love. In the meantime, I made sure she had nasty break ups with those men. Very nasty break ups that involve blackmailing them. I needed to make sure it will be very hard for her to go back to them. Next step was to fuck up her friends circle. I started manipulating her and she broke up with them in a very nasty way. To the point they can’t be in the same place anymore.

At this point the only people in her life was me and her family. You have to understand her family is very religious and think their daughter is an angel. Well, I sent screenshots of her conversations with men to her mum, dad, and the pastor (including blurred pictures with the choir leader). I also sent the screenshots to the wife of that choir leader (for some reasons I hated this guy with my guts even though we never talked). The screenshots included all evidence needed to convince anyone. Her family cut her out of the family and the church did the same. Now she was completely alone with me. Of course she came crying to me saying that the wife of one of those men found out and she is out to get her (I pretended to be the wife of one of those men when I was sending screenshots). Two days after all that went down and she was sick and sad, I dumped her and told her that I can’t be with her now that everyone knows about her. I told her my family doesn’t want her in the family.

To this day she is lonely as fuck, it has been a year and half and she is still asking me to take her back. I completely fucked her social life. She will have to move or something like that to be able to have friends like she did before.

To this day she doesn’t know I am the one behind it. I spent 8 months smiling and pretending while I was fucking her over. I have to say it was all worth it. People say revenge doesn’t feel good after doing it but I gotta say it felt pretty good and to this day, I would do it again.

While preparing and planning my revenge, I found out about the Red pill. I am still in transition but I am happy where I am. I have a good understanding of women now and I don’t take shit from them anymore.

[–]hopingforclearskin[S] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Sounds like too much work when I could just be done with her.

[–]line_life2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah it was too much. But the hurt was too much and it was worth it in the end.

[–]volvostupidshit5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

You are evil. I like you.

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[–]line_life0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Not even a bit. Might be different for you though. I like to make people pay for what they did. And it will also depend on what you do. Just don’t do anything illegal or very fucked up. Just do something petty that feels like justice to you. For me, to tarnish her name was the best thing because she lived two lives and I exposed the life she didn’t want in public. It was petty enough for her to feel the hurt I felt.

[–]PinacoladaSauce1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Honestly dude be grateful. You got out now before further commitment/emotional investment whatever.

The worst thing you could do here, is NOT LEARN. You now know what red flags look like first hand. You know what you like and don’t. Don’t LTR a whore like this again brotha. For your own sake.

Don’t worry about fucking up emotionally and not converting this girl into a plate instead of dropping. She’s not worth it man, she had good pussy, ungodly tits, good head game? Cool, there’s another girl out there probably within your current square mile radius with all those and a better ass. Plate her instead. You’ve put too many emotions into this just cutting it off now is smart because worse case scenario you plate her and she goes crazy on your ass and breaks all your stuff or tries to kill you or something. It happens. Cutting her off now is smart don’t worry, there will be other girls who make better plates. There is ALWAYS a better girl.

Be grateful, learn from this, and just move on. That’s how you move on bro. Trust yourself

[–]hopingforclearskin[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks for your comment. Still working on the moving on.

[–]frognads1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Damn that's fuckin' hardcore bro. Seems like seeking arrangments makes these dumb hos think they're not prostitutes hahaha

Good job getting rid of her, also if you haven't already get tested asap.

[–]smgtn2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

That site provides them with ultimate level of hamstering, as in "sugar babe" is not a hooker. Absolute majority of them do "PPM" which translates to "pay per meet". Ask me how I know.

[–]Naked-fox1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This might give you peace, she will end up lonely , ugly and with multiple STDs.

Let this motivate you to be better, work on your SMV almost as retaliation to this. That helped me a lot.

Chin up bro I fee your pain.

[–]mickenrorty1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

If it’s any consolation I’d say 1 in 10 guys entering into a relationship today are duped like you but will never know the truth.

My ex also had a login to seeking arrangements which I found when I needed to use her keychain on her MacBook to get the login for Netflix so we could login to Netflix on the PlayStation TV...

She said the exact same thing yours said “her friend created the account” etc... then I found out she was a regular on a website called fetlife... at least your one charged to use her as a whore... mine was doing it for men for free... so surprising as she was a 9/10 and really truly gave off the cute innocent persona.

Girls love to be whores and hey they love money

[–]Street_rat24260 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Maybe 1 in 10 red pilled dudes... the average chumps out there I'd say almost half get tricked into thinking a bad girl is a good girl.

[–]mickenrorty0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

True but it’s one thing to be a slut and another for a girl to be a prostitute and hide that fact

[–]ExternalNote1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

why do a lot of these posts seem fake

[–]paul_ernst1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Try to see that this has nothing to do with you and wholly belongs to her shitty personality which may have formed this way because of friends, beta guys, bad parenting, whatever it doesn't matter. Sucks it had to be you she played with. Whether she loves you or not, her personality isn't strong enough to keep herself away from horrible behaviour. Therefore she's not worthy of you. There really are better ones out there. Just don't ignore the flags. Honestly i believe there's a strong correlation between hotness and poisonouss personality. Society has told them for over 20 years that their hotness justifies whatever the fuck they do.

[–]vorgriff1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Get yourself an STD exam bud. Then, shit workout, meditate and move the fuck on. All women aren't like that I'm sure you know. You're a good person no doubt, don't let this define you.

[–]Seoul_Brother1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You start by living each day as your own and reclaiming the space in your mind that she took up. Letting her still live rent free in your head is bankrupting your ability to do other, more productive things and improving your own quality of life.

Use the anger you have to go to the gym. Anger for anger's worth is nothing and will only poison you. Turn that anger towards something productive like lifting, taking up a hobby that has cathartic value (I go axe throwing for mine), or working on your career. Slowly, but surely, other, more important things will take up that headspace of yours.

Start to be thankful for the experience. Even though it sucks, it's a hard lesson learned in life that most people never recover from or just grow bitter over. At some point, to remain angry becomes more of a choice and remaining angry never bode well for anyone. I'm thankful for my last ex (It wasn't this way for a long time though) because she brought me to TRP and my life was forever changed. I look for increasing my own self worth over anything else be it my career, my health, my hobbies, my male friendships, and what I choose to read; and in the 3-4 years I've been free, I've come to terms with all that's happened and jumped two job titles, increased by salary 4x, lifted harder, have male friends that feel like/ are my brothers, and just improved my overall life. I have an LTR now and she's no unicorn, but she is definitely a step up from anyone I dated in the past. I'm thankful for my ex happening because had she not been that shitty person in my life, I would probably still be in toxic relationship after the next and be some beta cuck simp marrying a girl like your ex and mine. Every time I think of my ex, I now realize she can't be happy with her own life no matter what she does while I know I have the ability to be happy because I can. If there is any consolation, your own worth is what you invest your time in; all she has to look forward to is the wall. Learning outcome independence did wonders for me and I think that's the path that most men should (but don't) take.

Re-invest your time with your male friends. One for perspective. Two, for the "bro" time. Sure some of them may not be aligned to your ideals (especially if you're TRP Red), but they'll show you a step back view. Also male friendships that are "ride or die" seem to be rarer these days, so finding one is a dime a dozen. I speak with my friends every day and to be honest, there is no better support group for a guy than his own guy friends. Just make sure they dont all go off, get married, and stop hanging out. I still see my married friends who have kids every year and they make sure to keep in touch. Lots of guys don't have support circles. You have to make them work.

Read. Reading right now would probably be hard, but read the sidebar for the OG TRP sub, read the book they recommend, and I highly recommend reading about stoicism.

Lastly, get tested. This should be the first thing you do. You may be able to throw in a lawsuit if positive for something depending on what your state has for laws. She should be able to cover that with all of the money she makes blowing rich dudes.

[–]hopingforclearskin[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks a lot for your comment man. Really appreciate your advice.

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[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Sure, it sux, but it's not nearly as bad as the guy whose gf denied him sex for years because they were young and she was a virgin and then she gave it up to some guy she met at "camp" after a few days.

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[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

They were kids. So the "years" were from 14-18 I think.

[–]1DullIntroduction2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dear Diary...

[–]mrsmiley8311 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You get over it by going out and meeting other girls. Have abundance mentality and never get oneitis.

[–]ApdoSenpai1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

She belongs to the streets, send her back like the stray dog she is. Oh and try to take off those rose colored glasses next time, it’s just pussy she gave you.

[–]reddick11 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You don't make a ho a housewife. Why did you even take her seriously in the first place. Should have enjoyed the free sex and second hand sugar daddy money.

[–]Tambamwham0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You got played? Huh? You played yourself dude. You wifed up a twin peaks coke head party girl and youre like “It’s so out of the blue?”

Jesus. You deserve this.

[–]hopingforclearskin[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah probably. All the signs were there.

[–]lolomotif120 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Be grateful for this massive redpill and the bullet you have dodged.

[–]Tambamwham0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

It wasnt a bullet he needed to dodge...

[–]lolomotif120 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

It was because he has oneitis for his unicorn and she wanted a future with him. He saw her true colours.

[–]Tambamwham0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Her true colors were shining bright from day one. Let’s not act like this girl was some mastermind living a double life. OP the real problem here.,

[–]southflsup0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I remember reading your post last week and I instantly knew that this would post would be coming from you soon. At least you found out OP. Remember , unicorns don’t exist.

[–]Icy-Development0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I've been there.

[–]MeRobot_90000 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy

What website's are the most common?

[–]MeRobot_90000 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy

Jesus fucking christ, I found my current partner on one. I think I'm going to be sick. seeking dot com

[–]hopingforclearskin[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oh boy.

[–]PerplexingPegasus_1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Block, get tested, monk mode.

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[–]PerplexingPegasus_1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Did a quick google search and found a list complied by an article of sites. Start here . Sorry you had to get a reality check like that but there’s no telling when she’ll think be back on the site. It’s dead at this point.

[–]smgtn1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

You found your "current partner" on seeking, knowing that sugarbabes are just glorified hookers?

[–]MeRobot_90000 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

No, met her in person months ago. Found out yesterday that she has a seeking account.

[–]smgtn2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

She's a whore, 100%. Abandon ship.

[–]immortalsperm0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Update please.

[–]MeRobot_90000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

We aren't officially dating, and as much as I wanted to before, saw her nudes and all I could think about was her profile. It says she hasn't been on in a while so I don't know if she uses it.

Still hurts guys, but God was is the reminder that I needed. Focusing on myself.

I really fucking wish there was a way to know more. I'm not going to ask her, if she ever wants to be serious she has to bring it up.

[–]pehsxten0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Dam bro. Atleast you learned about women.

[–]WiterS20 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Get an AIDS test.

[–]sirdaaz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You ignored red flags. Take the blame, learn from it and toughen up.

[–]PolesWithGoals0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Bro what the fuck

[–]toughenup20160 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Make sure you test for full std panel including herpes.

[–]CrazyNicholad0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I read this top to bottom and I think you're going to be alright. I have an origins story too but I had a kid with her. He's 14 and learning how insane his mum, and women in general, is. I think you're learning from this experience and have the right mindset to go forward. Always remember that your worth comes from you, self-worth, not from some strange chick. Remember that they are all strangers and will always be strangers. Trust only family with your vulnerabilities and even then be careful. You'll be alright. Monk mode, build confidence, muscle, skills, and your bank account.

[–]Kennigmatic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

What a morally corrupt world we live in...

[–]PhaedrusHunt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sleight of hand got you.

Bro I remember getting jacked on a dope deal from a dude I knew-- I had a bad feeling but I didn't listen to it. I'd known this ever a long time but I didn't know my money had a battery invitation but you know what I got got.

Some people are just fucking assholes.

Next time... man sometimes a nice girl, a good girl, ain't so bad.

Don't fall in love with thots bro

Or strippers

Hooters girl is almost a stripper already bro

[–]eddielovett0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You sort of fucked up a good situation. Could’ve pimped this bitch out and made bank. Instead you caught feelings like a chump. I guess perspective is everything.

[–]BoyFromMiami0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This made me sick.

[–]BusterVadge0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I thought this post seemed familiar. Looking through your post history, everything that the bros here told you was right.... You should have nexted her ass THEN.

We know a thing or two.

[–]Cryptomineand690 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

“No red flags”

“Gets blackout drunk with her whore friends and does coke”

[–]Brodin690 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Why do you care and why are you still hanging out with her ex? Why aren't you seeing other women and instead getting all pissy over some chick you dated in COLLEGE (no man should date in college). Just be lucky you dodged a bullet and learned a good lesson.

[–]CareIsMight0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

RED FLAGS! Personally, take everything that I say with a grain of salt I'm not an expert on life or anything for that matter, but perhaps you were looking for love in the wrong woman. She is pretty, she knows and understands her worth. Sadly, the most attractive women are going to be pressured by other attractive women to engage in these moneymaking half-whoring prostituting-like activities because there's a lot of money to be made.

These types of women deliberately objectify themselves and turn themselves into sexual objects for the pleasure of rich and affluent men who have money to burn. Don't hate the players, hate the game. We are in our early 20s, we simply can't compete with such wealth and power unless we have inherited an absurd amount of money. The reality is that the opportunities are almost endless for a beautiful woman in their 20s. They're approached by a lot of men, for modelling, all sorts of 'things'.

I'm sad that you had to go through this but it in the end it is a wake-up call, it's a lesson in itself if you look at it with the right perspective. The grieving process is hard but you have regained yourself so you should feel content with that, you're on the right track.

I notice this in woman at my workplace, I hear them bring up the word 'sugardaddies' every now and then, I know what they're talking about and they're pretty average looking. The sex trade never ended, it simply changed form.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I would say 99 percent of College whores are on Sugar Daddy apps. College is a huge red flag. All college girls are feminist self hating whores.

[–]Bone_Coat0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

IDK what to say bro, but I feel sorry for you. hope that this bump on the road gives you the inspiration to work harder on TRP.

[–]cluelessguitarist0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It is what it is

[–]SemiLoquacious0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Sounds like you were getting some grade A pussy for free. Hit her back up and plate her.

[–]hopingforclearskin[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Too emotionally involved with her to do that.

[–]blacktortoise690 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Red flags are red flags. Her stability, relationship with her parents; her sobriety... these are all huge.

[–]____Weabooo_V20 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You got what you deserved, you didn’t vett her properly and you ingored the obvious red flags

[–]TheProfitMotive0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Welcome to females in 2020 bro

[–]misfithustle0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Not really TRP related, but I think woman are inherently evil. They can pull you in and make you think theyre the cutest sweetest part of your life when really they're throwing it back on some old rich guys junk for benjamin.

Born hustlers.

[–]CrazyNicholad2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Real shit. They are inherently evil. What makes it worth it is watching them hit the wall.

[–]smgtn0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I'm in London and I was curious, so I created account on Seeking Arrangement last month (deleted it after 3 weeks). The number of hot young girls that I saw there was mind blowing. Tens of thousands if not more in London alone (their filter maxes out at 10K, but I made estimation by playing with various settings). I was getting messages from them non-stop. It's like reverse Tinder. If you see a pretty girl on a street, chances are she's on Seeking Arrangement, I shit you not.

[–]newyearzz20200 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, it’s the same faces on tinder and bumble too. 90% chance that all our plates have sugar daddies on the side. Always wrap it up

[–]alphakari-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Try sleeping, and eating. I hear those things make people feel pretty good.

[–]SiLeet-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Shit. I got busted.

[–]newyearzz2020-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sorry to hear about this. Very sorry bro. She’s not yours, it was your turn. Never get attached

Unfortunately, this is a very very common thing. There’s a very good chance your plate is fucking sugar daddies the same week (or same day) you are fucking her. But you are the Chad that gets her for free.

For those in LTR there’s a good chance your LTR is OR was on seeking arrangements/ what’s your price.

I did an experiment where I made a free SA account just to view the girls on it in my area. It’s pretty much the same faces that are on tinder/bumble.

Every chick nowadays is a prostitute. The worlds oldest profession is coming back in full force. Not that it ever went away, but it’s becoming more mainstream and accepted.

[–]generic-affliction-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you are horrified by her texts messages you should read some of the letters your grandmother sent

[–]Beateam100-4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s because of guys like you that most guys don’t get laid.

Dude you sound like the most salty guy ever. What you need to do is focus on taking advance of your situation, like get her to do threesomes .

Instead, you are being judgmental toward this girl and now she will close up making her difficult for others to hook up with her. Moreover, she’ll lie to her future husband and he won’t get any of the benefits.

[–]RedDeAngelo-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

"super hot 24 year old "

X Doubt

[–]ReaperX441 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Most likely a 5.

[–]redpillparis-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol. You ignored way too red flags. Never ever invest yourself emotionally in any relationship from this point forward.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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