I don’t want to go into detail because I am still not divorced legally. (Separated)
Long story short I found out that my child or so I thought was not actually mine. My wife cheated on me with her ex, I found out messages. She had been cheating on me on and off through out our marriage.
Found out too my wife never loved me, she only married me because she was in her 30s and I was a responsible guy that would make a good father.
After finding out I was devastated. I have always wanted to be a family man and hearing this crushed me. I have met her ex in person before too. And finding out my son would grow up to look like him well that was too much.
I decided to break things off completely with my ex. I don’t want to raise another mans kid. And I want to be able to start a new relationship and have children of my own.
However even my parents are saying I am in the wrong, that I should not turn my back on my son. I don’t agree, it hurts but I think in 5 years I would have made the right choice.
[–]Hakaisa398 points [recovered] (46 children) | Copy Link
God damn, all the hamster wheel comments. "The child didn't do anything wrong" "How can you just turn love off like that."
On and on, just man up and take responsibility for someone who has drowned you in fraud every step of the way.
[–]Shekelstein1488 262 points263 points264 points (7 children) | Copy Link
Whores gonna whore. Nothing is more important to them than themselves. Almost no one is berating the mother for stealing an innocent man's time and betraying his trust and loyalty.
[–]BeatriceSantelloCute 93 points94 points95 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I think about half the people there who are saying he isn’t the asshole assume they don’t have to berate her because it’s obvious enough and that she’s just a cheater
[–]RedLeaderRedLeader 84 points85 points86 points (4 children) | Copy Link
Shes going to steal more than that. Husband WILL be paying the child support. Shes going to steal from this man for 18-21 years and she will justify herself as the victim the entire time.
MGTOW is the answer. Do not give women anything more then casual and make sure you guard your sperm like its your life, because it is.
[–]MxCmrn 25 points26 points27 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Nah. He’ll most like able to get out clean. The proof of infidelity and paternity testing will allow him to get off, because he can name the Sancho.
[–]RedLeaderRedLeader 42 points43 points44 points (1 child) | Copy Link
If hes (ex) a scumbag (which he probably is) the courts will likely still slap OP with the child support "in the interest of the child (state)". Probably will depend on how much money OP wants to dump into attorneys and how far hes willing to take the fight.
[+][deleted] 24 points25 points26 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It depends on the state and judge they get. Furthermore it's rather pointless to say "this is how it works" when family law is not public positive law and has much more leeway to be adjudicated. The real take away here is to avoid entering franchise agreements (marriage) with their (women) state, then you don't have to worry about what the state is being instructed to do with their property (you).
[–]MarcusAurileus70 11 points12 points13 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Amen to that brother. None of them can be trusted and they will rally around their sisters no matter how horrible they are.
[–]playitagainzak_ 15 points16 points17 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Well to be fair the thread is asking about him. So they aren't necessarily giving her a pass. Her actions aren't conflicted and pretty unanimous.
[–]OptimalAdhesiveness 92 points93 points94 points (9 children) | Copy Link
My fave was ‘both are culpable.’ Oh good to know that even when the woman cheats the man is to blame for whatever outcome manifests from it. Shocker.
[–]Ragnarok314159 43 points44 points45 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Apply this same reasoning to any crime, and it’s nothing more than victim blaming. Where are these people when hen-pecked husbands snap?
“It’s also her fault for drinking a ruffied drink, she should have watched it closer”.
Victim blaming is awful.
[–]KingOfPomeraniaJr. Hamster Analyst 40 points41 points42 points (4 children) | Copy Link
This is mentality of many women in a nutshell. If he cheats he's an asshole, but if she cheats then they're both assholes (and he is often framed as the bigger asshole somehow).
[–]AbrocadoPie 23 points24 points25 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Clearly she cheated because HE DID SOMETHING WRONG! /s
[–]The-Worst-Bot 9 points10 points11 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I appreciate your enthusiasm for sarcasm, but to become a master you mustn't use /s.
I'm a human being, and this action was performed manually.
[–]AbrocadoPie 7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Good...bot?
[–]KingOfPomeraniaJr. Hamster Analyst 8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Haha, yeah that's the standard response. Now try saying that to them when the guy cheats and watch them explode! 🤣
[+][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It was his fault for letting a historically deceptive and manipulative creature have unfettered access to his resources and property.
[–]MarcusAurileus70 7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Female logic
[–]platysoup 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Well yeah, my mom pulled that shit on me when my ex cheated. I left her speechless when I went on a spiel about my only fault being emotionally absent sometimes because I was busy paying the bills. Also why the fuck are you defending someone else's daughter who betrayed and hurt your own son?
[–]ubcsucks12 53 points54 points55 points (1 child) | Copy Link
His love for the child was contingent on the child being his, which is not at all unreasonable. He realized the child is not his. Worse than that, the child was the product of an affair his wife had. When he looks into the child's eyes, he's looking at another man nutting in his cheating wife. There is no "love" after that.
[–]BewareTheOldManWAATGM Endorsed 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't get how there are people who don't understand these very basic concepts. For crying out loud, why is he expected to raise another man's nut to adulthood?
[–]ChiTownBobAnalyze this finger bitch! 50 points51 points52 points (1 child) | Copy Link
And they're not asking that about the "wife" - nope.
Double standard = corruption
[–]oodsigma 7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The post isn't about the wife. It's about the guy, and most people are saying he's NTA. People aren't commenting on the women because she's obviously horrible. It isn't interesting to discuss.
[–]Zach983 34 points35 points36 points (0 children) | Copy Link
These people want him to sacrifice his happiness for a kid that isn't even his thus doing exactly what the woman wanted. Fuck all of them, dude should peace out and never see either of them ever again.
[–]Idpolisdumb 34 points35 points36 points (1 child) | Copy Link
How could she?
[–]WesternhagenDiamondback AMOG 27 points28 points29 points (0 children) | Copy Link
"How can you just 'turn off' love? Ask my ex-wife." -- every divorced man ever.
[–]8BitsIsEnoughForMe 30 points31 points32 points (3 children) | Copy Link
It’s not like he can’t still love the kid and have a relationship with him like an uncle would. He just doesn’t want play step-daddy and be financially responsible for the kid that is not his. The comments act it has to be all or none.
[–]ubcsucks12 66 points67 points68 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Only a cuck would "still love the kid". By "loving the kid", he's helping normalize this sort of behaviour. We need to make women afraid of cheating again. Men need to be prepared to say "no", I refuse to love or support you or your bastard.
[+][deleted] 24 points25 points26 points (0 children) | Copy Link
This. If he's bonded with the kid and wants to continue a relationship, its up to him. It doesn't seem that way, though. He shouldn't have to be financially responsible for a kid that's not his.
[–]RepostGhostCst2Cst 14 points15 points16 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Wtf no. That whole situation is toxic as fuck
[–]disposablepurplepill 29 points30 points31 points (4 children) | Copy Link
Women lack the capacity to empathize with how men feel about paternity fraud. They have evolved to not empathize with men's plight as it pertains to paternity fraud. They wouldn't be able to cheat otherwise. Men experience cheating differently to women and women, evolutionarily only "lose" short term security or resources. Men lose their progeny.
Have a police officer or social worker tell a woman that their 3 year old was the result of swapped babies in the hospital and see how she reacts. THat's the closest equivalent to what men go through when they find out they've been cucked.
[–]AndAnotherThang 7 points8 points9 points (2 children) | Copy Link
The woman in the swapped babies scenario still has her own baby out there somewhere. A cucked man has nothing.
[–]PMmepicsofyourtits 1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
In this scenario, the first one gets aborted.
[–]SamsAdvice 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The equivalent of his sperm being denied...by birth control/denial of sex/timing of cycle.
[–]usa_foot_print 26 points27 points28 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I want to throw up at some of those comments. He isn’t taking anything out on the kid. If people actually cared about children they would have sex with people they could see themselves marrying. Or they’d get off reddit and volunteer at a local school. No. They fucking don’t. Fucking hypocrites the whole lot of them
[+][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points (1 child) | Copy Link
This is my favorite thread and fuck it's pathetic.
[–]nsfwalt900 12 points13 points14 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh my... reddit is more cucked then I thought. Back to voat lmao
[–]PermAnxiety 11 points12 points13 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I can't believe some idiots are blaming the guy for walking away.
This is how the off-switch work for all of you who don't get it.
You love ice-cream, right? Imagine that someone takes a huge shit, right on it.
It's still ice-cream , you like ice-cream. But things have changed. That particular ice-cream isn't what it used to be and there's no way to fix it.
[–]DicamVeritatem 6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That anyone sees anyone but the whore wife as the A-H is amazing to me. THEY are the true A-H’s.
What that skank did was worse than male-on-female rape. The former is forever, the latter transitory.
[–]Blackphish88 4 points5 points6 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Women taught me how to instantly snuff out feelings of love. So I can genuinely love someone till they cross me then they're dead to me forever. Thanks ladies.
[–]houseoftolstoyUnchivalrous Christian 5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
They are right that the child did not do anything wrong, but they are missing the point completely. Why not have the biological father actually take the father role of providing for the child? Is there something wrong with the biological father that he should not take on the father role?
The biggest villain is his cheating wife, who no matter what the guy does, will have a dark truth to learn about how terrible a woman his mother is.
[+][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Lots of good comments as well, though.
My personal favorite was someone claiming Reddit has no empathy because lots of people were saying leaving was a totally acceptable decision to make in this situation. Apparently empathy doesnt include empathy for a man who was cheated in and lied to by a woman who never loved him.
[–]AncapGhxst 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
They should be hounding the real father then.
[–]MetaCognitio 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
He possibly can't turn off love just like that. I am sure it pains him greatly and there will be many years of wondering if he made the right choice... but he also has to love himself and do what is in his interests too. Along with the child, he also has the right to be happy. Placing the responsibility on the father to stay encourages mothers to try to do this. If they know that the father will almost certainly walk away, they will have to reconsider their actions.
[–]AngryCockOfJusticeHarbinger of Dom Play, Purveyor of Skirts, Paragon of Hoe Tricks 253 points254 points255 points (23 children) | Copy Link
The second comment which implies something akin to "so what about the child". Before starting reading the comments I guessed that someone, most likely a woman, will come up with this and bam...wasn't disappointed.
Simply put: Shame the victim. Mommy is off the hook and enjoying her Starbucks somewhere while planning her strategy to get a hefty divorce settlement, child support and spousal support.
[–]TonyZ554139 points [recovered] (9 children) | Copy Link
All of those types of comments are from women who would want OP to act a certain way if they ever put some man through what OP is going through now. So they are going to shame him online as a tactic and as an example to other men.
Classic example of solipsism and a large scale shit test.
[–]kaolin224BFF Annihilator 96 points97 points98 points (4 children) | Copy Link
This is my conclusion, too. The complete lack of logic, accountability, and making sure they come out on top. There's no other reason why they'd vehemently argue for the man to stay in such a garbage situation.
It reminds me of when my cousin cheated on her boyfriend and he kicked her out of the house. I let her crash with me for a few nights and my soon to be ex, who I had suspicions about as well, suggested we go for drinks and talk.
I flat out told my cousin that she fucked up big time, the relationship was over, and that if I were the dude I wouldn't take her back. The entire night the ex was arguing that anything can be forgiven, love deserves a second chance, and how it was just a teeny, tiny mistake.
She squirmed when I pressed her on why she expected absolution when she's known how I've got a black and white line when it comes to loyalty. I finally caught her a month later and dumped her ass.
The next day her mom, sister, best friends, and even some of the women in my family (like my cousin whose dumbass boyfriend took back) were blowing up my phone, trying to shame me into letting her get a pass. Apparently I was, "throwing out a lot of history and love can fix all things. "
They shut up pretty quickly when I added their husbands and boyfriends to the conversation and said, "Behavior like this doesn't come out of nowhere. It's usually discussed with someone close long before it actually happens, and somewhere along the line at least one of you gave the nod. Maybe you should start taking a closer look into all of your relationships. "
"Gotta condition the guys in case I ever decide to do this one day! "
[+][deleted] 35 points36 points37 points (0 children) | Copy Link
You played that nicely!
I never had the whole "post breakup brigading" thing happen to me, but the thought of being mentally prepared for it crossed my mind.
[–]Imperial_Plastics 23 points24 points25 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Nice shooting, Ace
[–]Stahlboden 5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Your cousin was caught cheating.
Your ex was caught cheating
All your female acquitances press you to forgive cheating
Hmmmm...
[–]The_one_who_learns 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Gotta admit. Boss move.
[+][deleted] 43 points44 points45 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Yes, very true. So that the handy societal norm is established "just in case".
I've seen this so many times, how they want a "good person" to be a scapegoat.
Because they know an asshole would never do it, but a decent guy can be pressured into going against his own interests.
Fuck that.
[+][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points (0 children) | Copy Link
yeah...op gets called the deadbeat dad meantime the wives are still fuckung chad
[–]CoMaBlaCK 18 points19 points20 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Those types of comments are from people who go on an anonymous website and act to a unbelievable level of fake kindness for internet points.
Would any of them cuck themselves on purpose in the same situation? Absolutely not but they’ll tell you to do it if they’re going to get updoots.
[–]MadeUpMellyWahmyns 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
As a woman, I’m so disgusted by women. I guess that’s why I have no friends.
[–]BeatriceSantelloCute 64 points65 points66 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I commented in that thread and knew it would end up in this sub yesterday. A lot of them are shaming the dude with “gross” and “disgusting” “that you can just turn your back on the child you tucked in at night and protected when they felt scared” paraphrasing. If the Mom wasn’t such a whore then they wouldn’t be in a lose lose scenario. “You guys are obsessed with genetics and the bio father” Yeah well the kid is a representation of the affair and you have to be a fucking loser to stick around and take care of that bullshit. Any man with a minute amount of self respect isn’t dealing with that bullshit
[–]Stahlboden 25 points26 points27 points (1 child) | Copy Link
If Women woudn't care about genetics, they'd adopt en masse instead of making their own babies.
Adoption is free of pain, stress and health issues of childbirth
Adoption saves someone from the live of an orphan
Adoption prevents needless overpopulation
Adoption will save you if you're an old spinster and unable to carry a healthy child.
Bus somehow 95% of the time the people who adopt are either infertile or looney celebrities. You see, the members of the selector gender are entitled to passing down their genes.
[–]SamsAdvice 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
If woman didn't care about genetics, they would be fucking ugly men who don't have money or any other status symbols....losers.
[–]BlogginginvicecitySr. Hamster Analyst 6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
A lot of chicks argue like soulless PR. Like with a hypotist or hard drugs, if you give them the time of day and give them an ear --a chance-- they can get you. If you come with an open mind, rhetoric wins.
If you give a sneaky salesman the time of day he'll guide you to the logical conclusion that is buying what he is selling. The only way to win is to not play, because at some time or another you will just have to say no and just shut the whole rhetoric operation down. To absolutely reject the premise is how to win. You can't figuratively buy what they are selling, and must have principles. Either way the other side of the argument will name-call.
The moment one allows a women to define what "a man" is, or to make a women not responsible for her actions, that is the moment the man loses that argument.
To state the truth simply, without embellishment, is to amplify the content via the form;
[–]WesternhagenDiamondback AMOG 49 points50 points51 points (3 children) | Copy Link
The kid can either get support from his actual father, or die like a rat in the gutter, either way no reason for the cheated-on guy to care.
[–]DarthBroker 18 points19 points20 points (0 children) | Copy Link
strong, quite strong
[–]CavannahWAATGM Endorsed 2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Not his progeny, not his problem
[–]SamsAdvice 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Great statement!
[+][deleted] 21 points22 points23 points (3 children) | Copy Link
"Won't someone please think of the children!"
[–]WesternhagenDiamondback AMOG 12 points13 points14 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Sure, I'll think of the children. The ones to whom I owe a duty. In other words, my children, not any other guy's children.
[+][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points (0 children) | Copy Link
but but but... being a father isn't about genetics!
[–]SamsAdvice 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Why didn't she? Her body, her choice who she had the children with...
His body his choice to raise his own children.
[–]FactCheckOnTheFlySr. Hamster Analyst 13 points14 points15 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Mommy spreads her legs, man inserts cock, child is created, and another man should raise that child. WTF is wrong with this country?!?!???
[–]moorekomUrban Hoe Guerrilla[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (20 children) | Copy Link
All thanks to her whore mom. It's not because of his pride. It's because she is a lying, cheating whore who cannot be trusted. Women like this, with idiots like you in assistance, will turn men against women. What did you expect? That she will get impunity and a payout? The kid can blame his mom for all his misfortunes. She should have either married the guy she wanted to have kids with or she should have stayed faithful like a decent human being to the guy she was married to. But she didn't, did she? Men love their own kids. We don't give a fuck about someone else's spawn nor do we give a shit about this "for the welfare of that kid whose mom is definitely not at fault" bullshit. Let her take responsibility for her shitty choices in life. If she can't do it, put him up for adoption.
[–]Diarrhea_Van_Frank 52 points53 points54 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Right? That is a stranger’s child, not his. He’s not obligated to give half a fuck about it.
[–]moorekomUrban Hoe Guerrilla 33 points34 points35 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It's a subtle manipulation to make you see her concerns as your concerns.
[–]Ragnarok314159 16 points17 points18 points (4 children) | Copy Link
I kind of like my close army buddy’s kids. It’s more of a “I would fight a bear to try and keep them safe” situation, but I don’t want to raise them.
[–]moorekomUrban Hoe Guerrilla 24 points25 points26 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Like vs love might be a better way of putting it. You love your own kids. You like other people's kids at best.
[–]BlogginginvicecitySr. Hamster Analyst 7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I feel it. I try to agape love my community by showing respect, cleaning up trash, not blasting my music, etc..
But if someone in community were to have scammed me, I wouldn't be under any obligation to raise their kid. And if they put that blame on me, well that's another one of their problems. If I want to adopt, I'll adopt.
That response putting the blame on men is another example of the gynocentric instinct to blame men for everything. "Not like the greedy lying slut had anything to do with the EFFECT of being a greedy lying slut. Nooo. She couldn't have!"
[–]Jazeboy69 7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
If he knew they weren’t his and raised them then fine too. It’s the fucking lying. How could you ever trust her again.
[–]SamsAdvice 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
But this is ONLY because of the association you have with your army buddy. Anyone that is very close to your army buddy, you also care about to a degree...because of your army buddy, otherwise you wouldn't give a shit.
OP has no association with the other guy.
Similar to this, I'm a little more polite, kind, considerate to my male friend's girlfriends/wives. She might get "friend-benefits" by association. Change a tire, if my friend was out of commission or sick. Or something like that. But if my male friend had no association with her, she would just be some random chick I wouldn't give a fuck about.
[–]IAmNuclearMan 13 points14 points15 points (5 children) | Copy Link
If it had happened in Middle East, the woman would be stoned to death, and the bastard will end on the street dead or alive.
I stopped feeling sorry for them a long time ago, because these paternity fraud committing pieces of human waste have had it unfairly good for so long, and it's gotta stop.
[–]Flojoe420 12 points13 points14 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Good luck getting women to stop lying lol
[–]EU4N00B 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Lmfao
[–]j_arbuckle2012 8 points9 points10 points (1 child) | Copy Link
It's not going to stop.
Don't get married.
[–]IAmNuclearMan 6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Always the plan.
[–]SamsAdvice 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Nothing discourages cheating like a good stoning.
[–]kevin32Reddit's Ambassador for NiceGuys™[S] 10 points11 points12 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Will you sticky this comment?
[–]moorekomUrban Hoe Guerrilla 8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Done.
[–]ducaati 9 points10 points11 points (0 children) | Copy Link
This is a no-win situation for all involved. Child suffers, man is disgraced, bitter, ashamed. Woman is outed as a cheater. Man is likely out a lot of money, and is likely off the market, permanently because of the cheater. Bad deal all-round.
[–]StuckOnThePlantation 3 points4 points5 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Exactly. She could turn off her love for him like a switch, why is it suddenly a crime when he does the same to her kids?
[–]moorekomUrban Hoe Guerrilla 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep. No one talks about how she basically lied to this guy about being in love, being faithful to him, being loyal to him, standing by him in sickness and health etc. Everyone conveniently blame shifts to him for "the good of the children". Well she should have thought about that before she cheated on him.
[–]NeedSomeMilk126 points [recovered] (25 children) | Copy Link
Do people really believe into that "DNA doesn't matter" bullshit?
Or this sub is just filled with single moms trying to brainwash people that raising another guy's kid is the most manly thing you can do?
[–]Land_of_the_Losers61 points [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link
Well, in cases where babies get mixed-up in the hospital and mom might have the wrong one, people do seem to think DNA matters.
[–]beatles-lover19 points [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
Yes, imagine if a study came out showing that even 1% of babies were accidentally switched at birth and mom got the wrong baby. Can you imagine the freakout that would ensue? Of course legislatures would IMMEDIATELY spare no expense to make sure this never happened again.
The fact is that DNA matters a lot, it's just that it's difficult to get people concerned over male problems.
[+][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Imagine if, say, 4chan were to meme a bogus 23AndMe study that a surprising percentage of babies must have been switched in the hospital because the expected mothers don’t match. Hmmmm
[–]UshankaDalekRuns Hoeception Services 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
This is...so brilliant.
[–]polakfuryInvested heavily in Questions pre-2008 28 points29 points30 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Its the most retarded thing a man could do in his whole life
[–]WesternhagenDiamondback AMOG 28 points29 points30 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Women do if they're older and infertile and you suggest using a donor egg with the husband's sperm. Then it’s all “but it wouldn’t be MY baby, just his!”
[–]oodsigma 17 points18 points19 points (8 children) | Copy Link
Why does this sub hate adoption so much?
Broad strokes don't cover this very well. The people saying DNA doesn't matter, and you implying that it's all that matters are both wrong. The problem isn't that the kid isn't his. Millions of people raise and love non-bio kids. The problem is he was tricked into thinking otherwise.
[–]houseoftolstoyUnchivalrous Christian 11 points12 points13 points (2 children) | Copy Link
I don't think if his statement was meant to address adoption, but rather willful deceit. There is no DNA defrauding when it comes to adoption, unlike cuckoldry. I am at least one man who thinks adoption is a positive thing, since it provides a home for children who otherwise would not have parents (or bad parents).
Some people might not personally want to adopt children, and it is better that they don't if they have qualms with it. Since the topic in this thread is paternity fraud, my guess is that adoption would not fall within the periphery his statement.
[–]oodsigma 2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I agree. The problem is the hate boner most of this thread has is causing them to ignore that subtlety and make egregious, sweeping, and therfore wrong, statements.
[–]CavannahWAATGM Endorsed 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Absolutely not. It’s so well understood that DNA fraud isn’t an issue in adoption that it doesn’t need to be restated at all.
[–]Bacon_Kitteh9001 9 points10 points11 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Adoption is fine because it is voluntary.
[–]oodsigma 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]ThatDamnedRedneck 4 points5 points6 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Actual adoption involves a great deal of informed consent. Being cheated on and finding out your kids are someone else's is basically the opposite of that.
[–]oodsigma 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[+][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I can't speak for others, but I really like the idea of having kids that are MINE (in a genetic sense). I could offer rational reasons for this, but at the end of the day, it's really about feelings. Men's feelings matter.
[–]Darkster20 14 points15 points16 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Wonder if a Woman were pun in this same positio, theoritically of course where the child wasnt hers and the husband lies.
Do you think she would say "DNA DOESNT MATTER"? No she would be pissed.
[–]CoMaBlaCK 9 points10 points11 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Redditors for the most part read everything on the website like a story and never consider what they would do in a situation.
[–]usa_foot_print 6 points7 points8 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Single moms. Never met a dude in person who truly believes that.
[–]oodsigma -5 points-4 points-3 points (2 children) | Copy Link
You've never met an adoptive father?
[–]usa_foot_print 2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Of course I have. But his wife didn’t cheat on him with someone else and lie to him about the dad. An adoptive father has a different mindset
[–]oodsigma -3 points-2 points-1 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes. But your statement was an absolute, there's nuance.
[–]Stahlboden 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
No woman who chose childbirth over adoption has the right to judge a man in this situation
[–]Jazeboy69 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Radical feminists thinks you can choose your biological m sex now so nothing surprises me anymore.
[–]kragshot 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It's biology; women can't help it. If it's assumed that mothers will kill for their children, then it follows that anything less than violence is on the table, which by default includes lying, cheating, and stealing. All of those women have to defend that woman because it could have been them, circumstances pending.
[–]DeeplyDisturbed1FDS Dinner Donor 132 points133 points134 points (8 children) | Copy Link
OP will walk away, and his woman WILL contact the real daddy. They will now be able to have sex without it being considered an affair. Everyone wins here - except, of course, the kid, as usual.
[–]sixfootfish81 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
...and the OP who very well may be slapped with alimony.
[–]bellevueunderground 52 points53 points54 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly, you know, “because he’s such a good provider”.
[–]aceshighsays 17 points18 points19 points (3 children) | Copy Link
The kid wins his biological dad.
[–]the_unseen_oneSr. Hamster Analyst 26 points27 points28 points (2 children) | Copy Link
If the bio dad gave two shits about the child, he wouldn't have conceived it to begin with.
[–]aceshighsays 11 points12 points13 points (1 child) | Copy Link
But it’s not the responsibility of some random dude that was lied to.
[–]the_unseen_oneSr. Hamster Analyst 12 points13 points14 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Of course not, just pointing out that, realistically, all the kid will have is a wore mother who only keeps it around for gibs me dats from daddy government.
[–]Russki1993 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
You mean the government? This OP is gonna get bent over the barrel with alimony and child support even if he built up a good case with the paternity test and evidence of the cheating. Doesn't even matter if he's not the father, to Uncle Sam he is the asshole here.
[–]notyourdude201 116 points117 points118 points (4 children) | Copy Link
Well, all the reason more not to marry older women.
1 - They no longer have the ability to pair bond or love someone after getting stuffed by cocks all throughout their 20s.
2 - They are experts in playing goodie good wife as they deliberately prey on the beta provider types.
3 - They just love to cheat and have affairs, especially with their ex-boyfriends, for even the tiniest reasons.
Also, I'm not sure if we can get a lawyer to do this, but we can try to make a deal that paternity testing is done immediately for each newborn, and if it is proven that the baby is not ours, it's immediate grounds for proving adultery and divorce.
[+][deleted] 26 points27 points28 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, all the way through the nose, ass, not to mention the pussy.
[–]beatles-lover23 points [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
There do exist jurisdictions where paternity fraud is grounds for avoiding child support. So yeah, what you envision may be possible.
But that's not the smart move because it relies on the fantasy of a straight-shooting system that enforces agreements, holds women to their promises, and does justice even if it will inconvenience a woman.
The smart move is to quietly test your infant children without mom's knowledge. This can be accomplished using fake names and a home paternity test from a drug store. You will be literally the only person in the world who knows the results or even knows that a test was done. If the test shows you aren't the father, you don't freak out; you don't confront the mom; you don't say a word. Instead, you spend the next few months planning your escape.
[–]Touch_It_Boi 3 points4 points5 points (1 child) | Copy Link
For example?
[–]Shekelstein1488 99 points100 points101 points (4 children) | Copy Link
Lol some of those pathetic whores are saying he should divorce then sue for custody. Fucking clown world.
[–]muricanwerewolf1Mansplaining on Nightmare Difficulty 56 points57 points58 points (1 child) | Copy Link
HONK HONK!
[+][deleted] 22 points23 points24 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Honkity Honkis
[+][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points (0 children) | Copy Link
🤡🌎
[–]SelectAirline 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I actually don't hate that idea, because it throws the mother's "think of the kid" tactic right back in her face. I wouldn't do it and I doubt OP will, but it's better than the cucks encouraging him to share custody.
[+][deleted] 86 points87 points88 points (5 children) | Copy Link
Reddit has made me lose a lot of respect for women. The fact that other humans can think the way they do is actually disturbing.
[+][deleted] 54 points55 points56 points (3 children) | Copy Link
They’re not thinking, my man. They’re feeling. They’ll use pseudo-logic to rationalize whatever feelz they need to. I don’t really respect anyone, male or female, who hasn’t earned it. There’s just a whole lot less women I respect because of the way the vast majority of them behave today.
[–]DK_Knight135 18 points19 points20 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Most of those hoes just want a meal ticket
[–]RealMcGonzoJr. Hamster Analyst 12 points13 points14 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Men need to put "Right now I feel like" in front of everything women say - ranging from "You're my one and only" to "I love you" to "I want to have kids with you and spend the rest of my life with you." She runs on feelz. Feelz doesn't feel the future, it's all now. That's why all the old jokes about women's prerogative to change their minds. They aren't actually changing their mind, they just feel different.
[–]teabagsOnFire 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Idk, man. It's a combination. You don't just show up to court without thinking it through. Proper execution of dual mating requires some thought.
It's destructive thinking, but still thinking.
[+][deleted] 58 points59 points60 points (7 children) | Copy Link
There’s a lot of comments in there from women saying things like “the mom sucks but I would never be able to date the dad because I couldn’t trust a man who just walked away from his child. It shows he can ‘turn off love’”.
They look at a man uncucking himself as a red flag. Amazing. Men are expendable in the eyes of society and our emotions are belittled, gentlemen. Be incredibly careful with women and relationships.
[–]WesternhagenDiamondback AMOG 61 points62 points63 points (2 children) | Copy Link
LOL ask any man who ever got dumped, women can “turn off love” like a light switch. Nothing more cold and ruthless than a woman who is done with you.
[+][deleted] 38 points39 points40 points (1 child) | Copy Link
This is where they act shocked and ask you “who hurt you so bad in your past?”, completely ignoring the fact that if it was a woman who was hurt in a relationship, there’d be an outpouring of emotional support and telling her it’s not her fault.
[–]CavannahWAATGM Endorsed 16 points17 points18 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It's classical projection
[–]aussielanderForks roasted sockets 14 points15 points16 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Uncucking is a red flag to these women, if he doesnt want to be a cuck to one woman he likely wont be a cuck to them.
[–]Macphearson 8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Walking wallets, that's all we are to them.
[–]ginger610Noped out of the pussy cartel 8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
This was one of the most disturbing things I read in the comments. Umm how about understanding the mind fuck the guy went through living a lie because of his thot wife?
[–]SelectAirline 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
He's already been preselected as a beta by the woman who cucked him, so his only function in their eyes is to be an ATM for their fuck trophies. If he's not doing that, he's worthless. Notice how none of them (in that thread or anywhere else) say that they wouldn't date the guy that knocked her up.
[–]LordSithaniel 52 points53 points54 points (0 children) | Copy Link
If you are a cuck stay.
"Your" son is like 3 years old. Now its perfect time to leave so he doesnt get too attached to you. Imagine finding out when hes 8 or something. While if he is a teenager or adult its a different thing, the time you spent is so long that he understands, will probably hate his mom and still sees you as your dad.
Its your decision afterall, but your chance is pretty high getting another woman you are more comfortable with since she didnt cheat on you. Get your own kid and dont raise a cheating girls son. Nothing against the kid though, but your life is usually more important than anyone else .
[–]a0009Jr. Hamster Analyst 46 points47 points48 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Never stay in a dead relationship 💑 for the kids. And mostly never stay in a dead relationship for a kid 👦 who isn't yours.
[–]Jesus_Faction 50 points51 points52 points (9 children) | Copy Link
The real fucked up thing is the he can still be on the hook for child support in this case
[–]ginger610Noped out of the pussy cartel 15 points16 points17 points (8 children) | Copy Link
Indeed. Especially if he signed the birth certificate as the father. He’s going to have a hard time shaking that off til the bio dad is found.
[–]ReptilesbladeHoneymoon Cuck Assassin 11 points12 points13 points (7 children) | Copy Link
It's pretty clear in the post that he knows and has even met the real father of the kid. There will be very little looking needed.
[–]dorkydragonite 4 points5 points6 points (6 children) | Copy Link
Doesn’t matter.
[–]Klldarkness1 points [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link
No, this one is actually pretty simple.
Well, not simple in that he will need to go to court, prove he's not the father by DNA, and compel the court to test the potential father.
But it is doable.
He may still get slapped with alimony, and lose half of everything in the divorce, but he has a path out of child support.
[+][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Some places it does not go that way. If the man has already raised or even intended to raise a child than the woman seeks child support, the state will come after the last willing man to recuperate its' losses. Child support isn't an order to pay the woman, it's an order to pay the state. The judge then gets a commission for the duration of the payments.
However these kinds of cases become high profile easily, so many would probably not force the man to pay based on PR alone.
[–]anyoneinamerica 1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Some states recognize a child born into a marriage as a product of that marriage, regardless of true paternity. Additionally, some states recognize the husband (or live in boy friend) as the father of a child if he provided paternal support for the child for a certain period of time. Once these criteria are met, there is no way to get out of it. Especially since the majority of the family/domestic court judges and lawyers are female; not one of them can think using logic and rational thought.
[–]ginger610Noped out of the pussy cartel 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. However, I foresee an ugly, uphill battle for OP. The court system won’t let him easily walk away since he already has been taking care of the kid and accepted responsibility (because of a liar and cheater). The bio dad will probably not take on his responsibility without being forced since family court doesn’t really care who is paying as long as someone is.
[–]ginger610Noped out of the pussy cartel 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. However, I foresee an ugly, uphill battle for OP. The court system won’t let him easily walk away since he already has been taking care of the kid and accepted responsibility (because of a liar and cheater). The bio dad will probably not take on his responsibility without being forced since family court doesn’t really care who is paying as long as someone is.
[–]LiberiAdExtremum34 points [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link
I would like to see how this bitches would react if the tables were turned.
[–]CreflowDollars53 points [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link
Theres a comment in there by a woman noting an old thread in there where some old broad gave up a 5 year old for adoption theyd been raising because it was her husband's mistress' kid and the husband died. She noted how most of the comments where on the side of the woman and the "emotional trauma of raising another womans child" but this thread was the opposite. There arent many of them but there are still a FEW women who recognize the madness
[+][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points (0 children) | Copy Link
You mean the blatant hypocrisy.
[–]anonimanforyou 4 points5 points6 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Please do link that specific thread when you've got the time. I would love to read it.
[–]Orfeu_da_Conceicao29 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Textbook example of RP theory. Guy is victimized by a cheating bitch and the women have the audacity to shame him for leaving her lying ass and his nonexistent fatherly responsibilities can't be a father to a kid if you've never had a kid to begin with.
[–]TheLegend1992 34 points35 points36 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Everyone commenting that he sucks as well is a piece of shit. Sorry he doesn't want to raise some baby from a man who fucked his wife. Reddit has such a fucked up view of relationships and responsibilities. What a bunch of cucks.
[–]Tossed_Away_1776 16 points17 points18 points (1 child) | Copy Link
The fact that they're angry with him is astounding.
Cause it ain't his fuckin kid, people.
[+][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That shit was so disgusting. At least 10x I saw "Everyone Sucks Here" with fucked up verbage like that.
It ain't his kid, his life was a lie and it's not his problem to stab a dagger into his heart and eyes and to try and love it like it is his.
[–]Azuzu88 26 points27 points28 points (4 children) | Copy Link
He’s going to leave the wife no matter what, so the question is whether or not he will maintain contact with the child. A child that is not his, will have no memory of him if he leaves now, and who he will have limited/no parental rights to once the divorce is finalised. The wife will undoubtedly limit contact and alienate the child from him after the divorce anyway; the child will never be able to form a strong bond with him even if he wanted to stay around.
[+][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Bingo. It’s not the kids fault, and I would feel terrible if I was the dad because I WOULD love the child. That’s what makes this so heart wrenching. Most women will never understand that from the perspective of men because they show and feel love differently than men do. But there’s no way to still see the child without being around the ex-wife. He just needs to move on and learn from this. Like you said, she’ll poison the kid’s mind towards him either way.
[–]Macphearson 9 points10 points11 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Women can't feel love. They're duplicitous and selfish. They are, however, great at faking it. It's why they made such great spies in occupied lands.
[–]RealMcGonzoJr. Hamster Analyst 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Sure they can feel love. Just not for men. Men love women like women love children like children love puppies.
[–]ReptilesbladeHoneymoon Cuck Assassin 6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
He's breaking off all contact. The woman's little cheating fuck trophy just became the victim of a broken home.
[–]Undead_Chronic 26 points27 points28 points (3 children) | Copy Link
That thread is full of cucks
[–]ginger610Noped out of the pussy cartel 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I’d bet they are all single moms shaming him.
[–]ginger610Noped out of the pussy cartel 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I’d bet they are all single moms shaming him because they all want a random guy to play daddy to their bastard(s).
[–]lorum_ipsum_dolorJr. Hamster Analyst 21 points22 points23 points (2 children) | Copy Link
This is the stuff tragic operas are made of.
[–]IoSonCalaf 3 points4 points5 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Il trovatore all over again, eh?
[–]lorum_ipsum_dolorJr. Hamster Analyst 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
At least it's not brother and sister banging each other like in Die Walküre.
[–]MGTOWtoday 19 points20 points21 points (2 children) | Copy Link
We need federal legislation that requires DNA testing at birth for any man whose name ends up on a birth certificate.
[+][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol federal legislation. Not sure if you are joking but they need oil for their slavery machines, not sand. Federal government can do anything it wants with its property. If it doesn't want it's property to have guns, then it takes them away from all federal benefit recipients. If it needs it's property to be used to prop up m'lady then it shall exercise it's granted power to cuck some of its properties.
[–]AncientMGTOWWISDOMSaves beached High School whales 16 points17 points18 points (0 children) | Copy Link
you did what had to be done, you should be proud bro
[–]Planner_Hammish 15 points16 points17 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Your parents support cuckoldry? That's the most fucked part of this story. No man, definitely ditch. Tell the kid the truth and blackpill from a young age.
[–]deanakayxo 15 points16 points17 points (1 child) | Copy Link
The comments made to OP along the lines of "i hope you never procreate again" make no sense to me
Technically he didnt even get to, seeing how the kid wasn't his
[–]BlogginginvicecitySr. Hamster Analyst 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
And nothing for the father and mother. Just criticism for the man leaving the scam. And people wonder why men have to be aggressive. Gotta push yourself through the gaslighting of the world to succeed as man.
[–]LetsEatCongress 14 points15 points16 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Lmao, those fucking comments. Seriously fuck all those people saying he shouldn't leave. At least I know where to find some quality doormats now.
[–]Flesh_Pillow5 14 points15 points16 points (1 child) | Copy Link
They keep saying "YOUR CHILD" as if it was his ejaculate that spawned that child. Pathetic
[–]PhilMcCracken760 5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
"Your child" when you need his money, "my child" when it comes to parenting decisions. Women.
[–]RealMcGonzoJr. Hamster Analyst 11 points12 points13 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Why don't some of these "what about the child" bitches go help out the kid? It's just as much their kid as the poor guy.
[–]TenderWalnut 9 points10 points11 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It’d be nice if in this situation he could sue her for fraud too and recoup the tens of thousands of dollars he spent raising that child
[–]CoMaBlaCK 10 points11 points12 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Hey reddit white knights and mentally defective feminists Am I the asshole for not purposely cucking myself?
[–]funpostinginstyle9 points [recovered] (10 children) | Copy Link
Don't courts make you pay child support for someone else's kid in this scenario? Like I think you still get fucked and then have to try to sue the kid's real dad for damages
[+][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points (9 children) | Copy Link
Not when you have a DNA test and you can request the court for one, they cannot enforce you to pay for a child that isn't yours
[–]funpostinginstyle11 points [recovered] (7 children) | Copy Link
They can say you bonded with the child and accepted a fatherly role and thus the kid is yours. Because the court cares more about the kid than they care about you
[+][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (5 children) | Copy Link
Still, legally they cannot enforce you, maybe in clown world
[–]ZodiacBrave98 10 points11 points12 points (1 child) | Copy Link
HONK HONK
http://www.newson6.com/story/34240493/ok-man-ordered-to-pay-child-support-despite-not-being-father
[–]anyoneinamerica 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
There was a story a few years ago about a male victim of statutory rape (14 or 15 year old boy having sex with his teacher), she got pregnant, they got caught, and she was charged and convicted in criminal court. Then the kid was hit with child support payments by the family court.
THE INMATES RUN THE ASYLUM.
[+][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I hate to break it to you......
[–]funpostinginstyle 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Detallado, you best start believing in clown worlds
[–]DK_Knight135 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Nah you'll still have to pay
[–]aussielanderForks roasted sockets 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That isnt necessarily true, differs by area and court. Dna test by itself doesnt help unless the courts agree to release you...and that is far from given. There is a reason why dna tests are now starting to be banned for paternity, example france.
[–]Lis456 7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Jesus the wife cucked him, he has to forget that child now (possibly build a relationship when the childs older and out of it's mothers claws. He deserves to pass on his own DNA. Mandatory paternity testing when a child is born!
[–]Captainbuttman 10 points11 points12 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Verdict Not the Asshole.
About time that sub grew some balls.
[–]hsgp 8 points9 points10 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I know it is not a popular option here, but I wouldn't mind adoption. In adoption, people don't have the same DNA, but it's known and consensual. Even in baby switching I think i would still love the child, because there wouldn't be betrayal, just an incredible horrible situation. But here, the guy is completely right; it is founded on lies and betrayal.
[–]PermAnxiety 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Adoption is absolutely fine as long as you know it's not your biological kid.
[–]OuterSpacePotatoMann 8 points9 points10 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I’m torn because I don’t blame him one iota. It’s a shit situation and I’d feel used and abused to the extreme after something like this.... that being said, I couldn’t be with a puppy for more than a week without feeling massive attachment - how you can leave a 3 year old child who you thought was yours is incredible to me. Awful situation all the way around
[+][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I think he said he wouldn’t be dipping out of the kids life entirely.
[–]RepostGhostCst2Cst 9 points10 points11 points (1 child) | Copy Link
What the absolute fuck? The comments section in there is fucking disgusting. "what about the kid?" Fuck the kid, he's not his. Can't believe so many people trying to shame him into staying with the lying bitch for some bastard that isn't his. When the kids had a shit life he can blame his whore mom
[–]BlogginginvicecitySr. Hamster Analyst 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It's like if someone cake up to you at a store and tried shaming you for not buying them lunch that instance. Worth a chuckle, but simultaneously infuriating
[–]IAmNuclearMan 8 points9 points10 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Life Pro-tip to all men: It's better to be an asshole/misogynist than be a cuck.
Mic drop
[–]BlogginginvicecitySr. Hamster Analyst 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
You're saying it's better to say no to salesmen when I don't want something, instead of hurting their feelings by saying no!?!?
It unfortunately has taken most of my life up to this point to learn this lesson.
[–]magicmikefx 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I love how the narrative is always directed at the man. How horrible of him not wanting to raise another man's kid. Hardly a mention of the womans role.
[–]Seca2Bro 6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Let Chaddy Daddy raise the freakin kid. Problem solved. Chaddy Daddy needs to man up and be a real man.
[+][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Damn that's a cuck filled mess.
Every other comment is take care of the kid that isn't yours for his emotional development.
Fuck that bullshit.
Never raise a child that isn't yours.
[–]tinfoil_hats 6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
all the comments in that thread being like "if I found out a guy left after finding out he's been cucked I'd cut contact with him so fast because omg that's sociopathic" and "family is more than just blood"... bunch of whores looking for their next victim and thirsty soycucks
[–]KingOfPomeraniaJr. Hamster Analyst 6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
From what I can see so far, all the comments condemning the OP are women. The level of narcissism and pure tribalism is so moronic that it's almost funny. I say 'almost' because you have to remember that these utter bitches are actively demanding that the guy to continue suffering his torture.
[–]ActiveShitter5 points [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link
As predicted all the women are outraged at him and blaming him.
This is why we need Sharia. You don't have to worry about justice as that bitch would have her skull cracked open with a thousand rocks while buried in dirt.
[+][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points (2 children) | Copy Link
For real?
[–]JFB31000-2 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Can you argue against it at this point?
[+][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Uh yeah I can. Let’s not become a 3rd world country rife with religious violence.
[–]sshevie 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
All of the women bitching the guy should still be a after to a kid that's not his must be Thots looking for a sucker to be daddy's to their basterd kids.
[–]yabadabs13 6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
NTA
Your 'wife' caused this. You owe nothing to this kid. You owe nothing to your wife Although it would be hard to walk away from this kid after three years.
The kid did nothing wrong, but such is life. She put you and the kid in this mess. Let her deal with it.
Have some self respect and preserve your dignitiy and don't listen to people on here saying yta.
This could turn out to be a life lesson for the kid. A hard one that he may have to go through. But just let it be known when he's older what his mom did.
[–]Nnnnnnnadie 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
A nightmare right there. Its incredible how the people is so cold against the victim in that thread, oh well, internet can be dehumanizing sometimes.
[+][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I think the only situation I would ever raise someone else's child is if the parents were close to me (suck as family or good friends) and something happened so that they couldn't take care of them.
Raising the child that some whore tries to dump on you? Never.
[–]Chairman_Ellen_PaoPuts extra mayo on his roast beef tacos 3 points4 points5 points (1 child) | Copy Link
"I have met her ex in person before too. And finding out my son would grow up to look like him well that was too much."
So is this Tyrone's kid or what? 😄
[–]kragshot 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Or Chad...or Sancho...or Huang Lo...or Sven...shit...it could be a lot of guys!
[–]FactCheckOnTheFlySr. Hamster Analyst 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Our modern model of cuckolding depends on men who not only opt in, but to knowingly devote their resources to raising the children of other men. The men who don’t are shamed, dunned and dismissed as “not good enough”.
I’d rather die in a war before raising another man’s child.
Let me know when the next plane leaves.
[+][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
This was a response to another poster saying people have been in relationships with young mothers and were court-ordered to provide child support after breaking up.
Jesus Christ this thread is filled with redpills. Not only should you date single mothers, but you should understand you're responsible for her kids too when you do. Every guy should be shown this entire thread as a wake-up call. Most women will see you as a child's financial support and babysitter and if you try to escape that then why did you hurt the poor kid how can you be so selfish???
[–]lucajones88 4 points5 points6 points (1 child) | Copy Link
How can you turn off your love for the child the second you know it’s not yours?
Well, pretty fucking easily actually! Most animals eat the young of their mating rivals, kids lucky!
[–]kragshot 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Shit...back in the medieval period, there were countless accounts about second wives of widowed noblemen scheming to kill the guy's children from the first wife so that their children will inherit his title/lands. Outside of the magic and monsters, a lot of those old fairy tales were based on real shit that was going on.
Even today, we have stories about step mothers abusing or otherwise treating the step-children like shit...But men are supposed to "man-up."
[–]texanapocalypse33 3 points4 points5 points (1 child) | Copy Link
this has to be bait
[–]BlogginginvicecitySr. Hamster Analyst 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Manipulation involve a lot of bait.
[–]loneliness-incLvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Gentlemen,
This is a perfect example of the concept of "enabling bad behavior gets you more of the same".
OP is a victim of fraud in the most disturbing and disgusting manner. Not only did his skank of a wife deceive him with her fake love, she also wasted years of his time, years worth of his resources and she used his fatherly love instinct against him.
And for what? Just to satisfy her own selfish desires. The cunt deserves all that's bad in the world and she's the one who's solely responsible for this mess.
OP is faced with a conundrum: walk away from this mess that she created or stay for the child because the child is also an innocent victim and OP is the only father the kid ever knew.
Many people in the comments are suggesting the latter. Many are shaming OP for wanting to leave. Aside from the blatant hypocrisy of placing all responsibility on OP - a man - and ignoring all responsibility of his wife - a woman - I'd like to focus on the element of enabling. Here are a few points.
Point one - the kid isn't his. He holds no responsibility towards the kid. Period.
Point two - the mom created this mess. It's her mess to fix, not his problem.
Point three - his love for the child was predicated on the premise of said child being his son. When it became known that the kid isn't his, the premise for the love vanished and with it, the fatherly love.
And yes, the love of a father to his child is vastly different from the love of friends, neighbors and humanity. Night and day comparison.
Point four - and this is the most pertinent point - if he assumes responsibility for the child, he'd be enabling her bad behavior. Her plan would have succeeded because all along she was using him as a sucker and now that he finds out, he'd be rewarding her deception with guaranteed sucker provision for many years to come.
No. He shouldn't reward bad behavior. He out to go scorched earth on her. He needs to sue her stinky ass six ways to Sunday. He needs to punish her in every legal way possible. He should then not be involved with her or the kid ever again. She needs to eat the consequences of her actions.
Ayyyyyyeeeee, the kid? Yes, it sucks for the kid. However, 1. That's not his problem. 2. It is her problem. 3. The kid will have challenges regardless of whether he stays or not. 4. Enabling bad behavior is a terrible example to set for the kid.
So if the kid wants to reconnect with op as an adult MGTOW in 15 years, sure, he and op can connect over both being screwed by the same woman. In the meantime, it's of crucial importance that op not enable bad behavior.
[+][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
What a bunch of fucking morons. Did anyone else see the total and complete idiots talking about how the child will be “traumatized” because of OP leaving. OP didn’t even say he’d cut off contact with the child.
I mean the kid is fucking 3. They don’t even know what a father is, much less that one was “swapped out”. They’ll probably never even know the difference, much less be traumatized or even understand what it means.
And then you have the dumbasses still referring to it as “his kid”. It’s not his kid, never was.
[–]Flojoe420 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Idk.. I've raised a few sons I can can say with certainty a 3yo does know what a father is and very well 'could' be traumatized.. that being said, the blame should fall directly on the lying bitch of a mother. She ruined her son's life.
[–]ImmersionVoidParagonProbation as of 6/4 - call for violence 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
People genuinely think this man should suffer for the rest of his life for the child's sake? Imagine when the kid grows up knowing OP isn't the real father. The kid is is to suffer if OP sticks around. I would instantly be emotionally detached after learning what happened. The kid is only three. I don't even remember anything at that age. The kid will be fine. That's one of the most humiliating things a man could endure. Not everybody raises and loves a kid just because theyre some kid. Most people prefer the kid be biologically theirs.
[–]Bacon_Kitteh9001 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Hmmm, why are young men dropping out of wider society?
[–]kyledontcareChristian Comeback Kid 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Good for him.
[–]SirKolbathYeah, yeah. “Mods are incels.” 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
He is not the asshole. Mom is.
[+][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
“There’s more to the father son relation than being a sperm donor”
Any man will do! Love wins!
Wrong. This is just animalistic female behavior that needs to be controlled. Namely, the man’s trust in his wife has been broken and it’s gonna take a lot to build that up with another woman. Now that he’s been hurt that bad, it’s gonna be hard for him to blindly trust any women with whom he is in a relation.
He should just leave her and be done with his “family”. If the kid’s not his, then he should owe nothing to the woman and child.
[–]Jazeboy69 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow the comments on that sub are incredible. Reddit is a cesspit sometimes. It’s the radical leftism here. The left loves to tell other people to make sacrifices when they don’t have to do any work themselves. Virtue signalling rubbish. Much like clips asking people about taking in illegal refugees. They say yes but bring a real person and they say no way and freak out lol.
Eg: https://youtu.be/Py1NZT5_NlA
[–]PhilMcCracken760 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm sickened by those absolute cunts in that thread. They're using the exact same logic to shame OP into staying as battered wives use to justify staying in abusive relationships. Gotta grit my teeth and take it for the kids!
[–]ThisIsWhyTrumpWins 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
They locked the comments. Of course. Lol
[–]BlogginginvicecitySr. Hamster Analyst 2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]TheseAcadia 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
We should turn it into a motto or something.
[–]BluepillProfessorMRP Mod 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Not gonna lie. This one hurts a lot. In a sane society the "mother" would be stripped naked and thrown out of the village into the cold. Then the cuckolded father could take legal responsibility and raise his child with the truth. It would be up to the father whether to give up his parental RIGHTS or whether to pursue Chad for Child support.
Yes, that is what I said! Chad should pay Dad for child support and for Dad not killing him by defiling his wife. That is what a sane legal system would require.
In this legal system? I think cuckold "Dad" (with no rights but all the responsibilities) is on the hook for child support and he is going to be rudely surprised.
[–]Stahlboden 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
She humiliated him thrice:
First time when she has been exploiting him through the fallacy of traditional "relationships" where you put your money, gifts, devotion, affection, validation now for the Vague Promise of Sex (VPoS) sometimes later, leaving him with blue balls and the feeling of being undesirable emasculated thing.
Second time when she fucked chad the minutes after he told her some cheesy pickup lines.
Third time when after he learned about #1 and #2 she actually expected him to swallow it all and take her back, being the spineless beta boy that he was.
And the commenters are saying he is the asshole for snapping out.
Alpha fucks, beta bucks. The coworker may not be a real alpha, but nonetheless he seized the opportunity and was rewarded, instead of investing himself into LTR like the beta OP's ex did. I think it's clear what straategy is more rewarding.
[–]Bing_Bang_Bam 1 point2 points3 points (4 children) | Copy Link
How old is the kid?
[–]Tossed_Away_1776 1 point2 points3 points (3 children) | Copy Link
3 years old
[–]Bing_Bang_Bam 1 point2 points3 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Hmm that's pretty rough situation. It's not the kid's fault his mother is a hypergamous whore.
[–]playitagainzak_ 2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
To be fair, in hindsight the kid IS better off with him than with her.
[–]Bing_Bang_Bam 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, I'd tend to agree. If the kid really loves him. The kid wouldn't care if he wasn't really blood. People raise chimps and animals that love unconditionally even though they aren't blood. The mother is a demon though...
[–]Luffysstrawhat 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Is it me or are the betas finally rising up trying to defend the man I guess the hamsters were trying to go too far.
[+][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Good move...run and don’t look back bro
[–]faintingoat 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
wise decision. i m 100% with you.
[–]Starcruiser28 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Since "daddy" knows who the real father is he should sue him for damages to start, he has 5 years of monies invested in this man's child. Then he should look to paternity testing and getting the child's BC updated to reflect the correct parent. Then he should divorce the wife, I am sure you could also sue her for damages and deception.
Men need to start doing this to set the precedent that these thots cannot get away with stealing a mans resources.
[–]yareyaremodsarekeks 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The amount of people suggesting he be a good little cuck and raise the bastard is crazy. This world is going to shit.
[–]Gooch_du_jour 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The kid hasn't.... yet.
People like this always make the assumption that the kid is going to treat this guy like his dad for the rest of his life, when the bio-dad is already known and accessible.
Shit, I've had an adopted male in my family (when in his 60's) track down his bio-mom. It always stuck in my craw a bit. Like, WTF, you never even knew your bio-family and seemed like a slap in the face of my family the amount of work he had to go through to sleuth out his past.
You can't discount biology. This kid's bio-dad is right there. This poor chump just had his father status instantly reduced to step-dad without his permission.
It's one thing to sign up for that, it's an automatic "nope" when sprung on you.
[–]castlefrankie1 points [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
75 cents and a suppressor. Done.
Why we allow these demons to continue there oppression defies logic.
[+][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (1 child) | Copy Link
We don't promote murder here. He is right to leave her however.
[–]ConnorGracie 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It's also not the child's fault in an abortion is it?
[–]rationalthought314Jr. Hamster Analyst 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Why does he have to sacrifice for his wife's fuck up? Let her ex take care of his own damn son and let OP be free.
[–]RegiusGeralt 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Husbank denied.
[–]willyj19 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Men are always the blame for the misfortune of women. Love and dating is a joke.
[–]GamingYourMom 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Let me ask these women a simple question: if I swapped your child out with someone else's child when they were three years old, would you be alright with that, or would you let your "pride" get in the way? Smh.
[–]GamingYourMom 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
First of all, did she kidnap a man's child for 3 years? She stole a child from the bio dad? If so, why the fuck is she not in prison?
Second of all, she committed fraud. At least take the child away from her.
Third of all, the child already has a father, the bio dad. Make the bio dad aware that he has a child, and find him responsible for the child. Problem solved. You can even reimburse the fake dad for his getting defrauded, and get the money out of bio dad vecause it's actually his responsibility, without hurting the woman's finances, even though she's a criminal. Somehow, women will not settle for that.
Fourth of all, when did women become so concerned about fathers? Women retain primary custody of the children 92% of the time. The regularly do not let fathers see their children, or children their fathers. Why the panic about the child not having a father? In 2019, 82% of children are born to a single mother, so where's the outrage about those father-child relationships? Those children knew their father's for a decade in many cases, before mom up and moved to Maine for work, leaving holiday-dad in Kentucky. This very common occurance doesn't seem to bother women in the slightest.
It seems women only care about the "relationship" between fathers and their children when it means daddy has to pay mommy money. Women would lie to their child, their child's father, and their cuckold husband just to get a providers money, and women will grasp at any argument to make this sound moral. The fact that many women support this view should enlighten men to the idea that women only see us as a "use". We are not people, certainly not with rights.
[+][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
This woman could have easily taken the secret to her grave, as many women before have. Why did she not manage to do it? Because of her sense of entitlement. Feminism, with it's inflationary effect on female sense of entitlement prevents them from feeling shame for anything. This is why we can read about women wanting to "share their pregnancy" with some cuck. In many ways, feminism is working against women and is preventing men from getting cucked. I believe there will be ever less cucked husbands in the future, as women don't bother to hide it anymore.
[+][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
This man fell for the oldest trick in the book.
[–]September40 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Even in the context of putting the kid first, after finding this out there’s no way this guy could ever treat the child’s mom, or possibly even the child, the same ever again. The mother may hold it over his head, threaten him with taking the child because he has no real parental rights, she may try and bring back the real father and leave Mr Stand In high and dry. More likely than not, his relationship with the child’s mother would grow horrifically toxic and terrible for the child to witness, so the kid is screwed either way. And it isn’t this guys fault.
[–]DesertBull-9 points [recovered] (11 children) | Copy Link
The woman in that scenario is definitely a fucked up piece of work. Whatever happens to her happens and I don’t give a fuck.
But that kid...his one fucking chance of being a strong man is this guy he calls “daddy.”
If you’re not moved by that, you’re fucked up, too.
[–]Macphearson 17 points18 points19 points (4 children) | Copy Link
Incorrect. Don't try to shame men into fixing the mistakes of women. Do not victim blame. Do not white knight.
Let the woman go find the sperm donor. I'll bet dollars to doughnuts he makes a lot less money than the duped OP.
[–]Captainbuttman 7 points8 points9 points (1 child) | Copy Link
This. Women do this shit because they know men continually allow them to do so. This behavior stops as soon as the incentives stop and the consequences are known.
[–]BlogginginvicecitySr. Hamster Analyst 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Children, men, women, animals, yes yes yes yes. Changing my own life required incentives and known consequences more than anything else. Your comment x infinity
[–]DesertBull-2 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
I victim blame.
When women do stupid shit and suffer, I think they should accept much of the blame for the consequences.
This guy was too stupid to know he was involved with a whore?
Why should he not be held accountable for his mistakes?
“White knight”
THAT is comedy gold.
[–]Macphearson 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
If you're repeating some variation of the tired old line "think of the children" (which you did) you're engaging in white knight bullshit. Its "feels not reals" that liberals and women engage in. Not his kid, not his problem.
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I’m definitely moved by that, but what’s this guy supposed to do? He either stays with the whore and raises the child, or he cuts both out. He can’t maintain the relationship with the kid while also leaving her because she’ll do everything she can to undermine him.
[–]Macphearson 8 points9 points10 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Not to mention she's going to try for the full wallet-ectomy because courts are biased towards women; even lying, cheating scum like her.
[+][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Yep. I hope he can prove the child isn’t his. Even then, government still has a vested interest in making him pay for it. Otherwise she’s another single mom sucking the welfare tit. You’d think they’d learn the solution is to discourage whores and divorce from a social, financial, and legal aspect, but no. Our feminist overlords are still openly encouraging female hypergamy.
[–]Captainbuttman 2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
He posted in a comment that he had a paternity test. He is not the bio dad.
[–]NovelMaterial 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Or, is he? Hey Vsauce! Michael here.