Coincidentally, every woman that I know who loves to complain about how much they hate men all have a history of dating horrible men. It’s one thing if you’re tricked by some asshole, but when you have a history of constantly dating the worst men possible, then you need to accept responsibility for choosing these shitty men.
I’ll give you some examples. First of all, these women that I know all dated men in their mid 20s back when they were in high school. They were shocked when these older guys used them for sex and took advantage of them. Now, these women are in their mid 20s and they’re still dating shitty men.
One girl kept getting back together with a man who constantly cheated on her, and she knew that he’d cheat again, but she kept going back. He had to be the one to break it off for good. Then, there’s the ex who everybody knew sold hard drugs to high school kids. Surprisingly, he turned out to be a huge piece of shit. One ex was a known pedophile. He ended up cheating on her with a 15 year old girl. Another girl was warned by a dozen women that her man cheats on every girl that he dates, but she still dated him and was shocked when he got another woman pregnant. There was an ex who was a known woman beater, and this girl still dated him. She somehow didn’t expect that he’d beat her, but he did. Luckily, she got out early. I could go on and on listing examples of shitty men that these women have dated.
The thing is, the vast majority of these men were obviously douchebags. Everyone could see it, but every single time these women would think “well, this douchebag seems nice,” and then when things inevitably don’t work out because he’s an asshole who mistreats her, these women always complain about how much they hate men.
Don’t be mad at men because you don’t know how to choose a good one. It’s not our gender’s fault that you date the worst men.
[–]Chairman_Ellen_PaoPuts extra mayo on his roast beef tacos121 points122 points123 points (7 children) | Copy Link
Women are addicted to drama. They can't live their lives in peace and quiet.
[–]Zandra0112 points13 points14 points (5 children) | Copy Link
Is this why men have stands?
[–]slayer-booty29 points30 points31 points (4 children) | Copy Link
Women are the gate keepers of sex, men are the gate keepers of relationships.
Without a woman's permission the only one night stands a man will have is with his hand.
[–]Zandra017 points8 points9 points (3 children) | Copy Link
does this mean that Woman about to get ora ora ora?
[–]Pootisburd4414 points15 points16 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Relevant pic
[–]TGWWHOW2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
more like star finga and then go emerald splash
[–]the_unseen_oneSr. Hamster Analyst2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
https://66.media.tumblr.com/8947f5cbf10dc4435a964da0f2b9e10e/tumblr_op7mfwTG2F1ufq0ayo1_500.jpg
[–]OniiChanStopNotThere5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
A woman would rather be angry and frustrated than bored.
If there is no drama in the relationship, she gets bored in leave. Thats why they are engineered to ask you questions like "does this dress make me look fat" which will get them upset no matter what you answer. They are looking to stir up drama.
You have two options: 1) The winning move is to not play i.e. MGTOW 2) stay in a relationship creating as much drama as possible so that she will stay fiercely attracted to you.
[–]sleepyweaselisawakeNeighbor of the Beast100 points101 points102 points (17 children) | Copy Link
From the comments section: "Why isn't your argument "Men need to be held responsible for being shitty partners?" Why is the onus on women? If I choose to associate myself with assholes, the assholes bear no responsibility for being assholes?"
The onus is on women because women choose their sexual partners dipshit. If waited more than 3 hours to fuck guys you meet on Tinder you juuuuuuuust might learn whether or not the guy you're about to spread for is a piece of shit. But, that means practicing restraint, having standards, and not riding the dopamine rush of your impulses.
[–]moorekomUrban Hoe Guerrilla52 points53 points54 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Blasphemy!
[–]books_are_friends17 points18 points19 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Respect is earned not given. still I would say the onus is on both for sucking hard as people generally but where it certainly and without a doubt falls on the woman is when they choose to allow a child fathered by these assholes to develop and be born into the world. She is the sole person in control of this decision and women make terrible ones at the expense of children. If you’re going to choose to have sex with assholes, I really don’t care. When people are irresponsible enough to create children from those situations, that’s what upsets me and I believe is important to be vocal about. If your impulses affect no one but you, great. None of my business. But protecting children is everyone’s business and some people should not be allowed to make babies.
[–]Land_of_the_Losers 1 points [recovered] (9 children) | Copy Link
I think you bear some responsibility for manufacturing excuses for them, validating them, cleaning-up their messes and flattering them, yes.
[–]SirKolbathYeah, yeah. “Mods are incels.”13 points14 points15 points (7 children) | Copy Link
I keep saying this.
“If you meet an asshole in the morning, you met an asshole. If you meet assholes all day, you’re the asshole.“
If the only men you date are assholes, either you have shitty taste in men, or you are the asshole and they were actually decent guys. It’s not uncommon that women rewrite history to make themselves the victim in every fucking relationship they have.
In fact, I don’t really think there are that many assholes out there. I think it is vastly more likely that women break up with guys because they are branch swinging to someone else, and then simply fabricate a line of bullshit about that guy that they left. I know for a fact I treated my ex-wife very well. I also know for a fact that she’s made up a bunch of nonsense about me. When I caught her trying to lay the groundwork for being “afraid for her safety“ I cut off all contact with her immediately and told her that if she made another whisper along those lines I was going to make our divorce look like Brad and Angelina and I would bankrupt both of us. If she wanted the house she could have it, but she was going to keep her fucking mouth shut and stop fabricating bullshit about me.
And, in all honesty, my ex-wife was at least halfway reasonable. Some of these bitches are definitely not.
[–]loneliness-incLvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
No my dear sir. If you meet assholes all day long, you must be a toilet!
Most men are naturally nice to women. It's part of our protector / provider instinct. But when you reward behavior, you get more of it. When you punish behavior, you get less of it. Women reward asshole behavior with wild monkey sex and ego boosting approval galore. They punish kind and caring behavior with the friendzone and shaming language.
[–]Land_of_the_Losers 1 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
It sounds like you played your divorce intelligently.
My ex-fiancee probably goes-around telling everybody that I used to chop her into pieces with a chainsaw. And I was so masterful at chopping her up that I left no scars behind whatsoever.
[–]SirKolbathYeah, yeah. “Mods are incels.”2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah. Weird, huh?
[–]douglas_p2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
If it is advantageous in any way for a woman to fuck over someone else, she usually will take the opportunity. If need be they’ll concoct some elaborate bullshit in their head to justify it to themselves and others. Women are remarkably good at believing their own lies. And I’m not just talking about romantic relationships, they do this shit in all aspects of life.
[–]askmrciaJr. Hamster Analyst2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes and no. This depends on the girl. If it's hood rats and trailer trash complaining about assholes then yes, they really are dating assholes.
If it's your typical basic woman then yes they are dating decent guys while branch swinging.
In both cases they refuse to take responsibility just like you said.
[–]twittyswister1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That's what I just commented.
I don't know why it's a male habit to just take a woman's word for her story about how "abusive" her ex was. Every chick I've ever met has a story about an "abusive" ex. Well, I know some of those guys and I saw them together. She was almost always the troublemaker.
[–]allodermate0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
“If you meet an asshole in the morning, you met an asshole. If you meet assholes all day, you’re the asshole.“
The only exceptions, would be if you're that .00001% that got butt-fucked by life, e.g. being born black in Mississipi/Missouri.
[–]sleepyweaselisawakeNeighbor of the Beast6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Agreed. Women can tell when a guy is an asshole and will manufacture any excuse to justify the relationship. "He wasn't like that when we met," is the most popular. Unfortunately, no woman can resist the siren song of the alpha cock.
[–]CavannahSr. Hamster Analyst6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Women select for sexual reproduction. This is basic biology. If women select for certain traits, those traits are effectively “rewarded” and will not only continue to exist but will also spread. Shitty people will always exist. The point is that the one group of people who can disincentivize shittiness to the point that it suffers extinction choose not to do so. Assholes of course are responsibile for their assholery, but you are so much more responsible for making sure that assholery is not rewarded and is not propagated since your are the one who makes that decision and choice.
Get over yourself and accept responsibility for rewarding shitty people and encouraging their shitty behavior.
[–]loneliness-incLvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It's very simple. Women are human beings and men are human doings. Therefore, responsibility is always on the shoulders of men.
I don't need to stop rewarding assholes by choosing them, men need to stop being assholes.
I shouldn't be told not to dress like a sex object, men need to stop objectofying women with their stare rape.
It isn't my fault that I got raped while dressed like a slut, blackout drunk and after grinding on guys dicks all night long at a house party, men need to learn not to rape.
We can go on and on with examples. Bottom line is that men always bear responsibility because we're human doings.
[–]Stahlboden4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
"If I enter the cage with tigers why can't I blame tigers for biting my face off instead of myself?"
[–]korkyshadow3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Best part is men shape themselves to what works with women. If women stopped fucking assholes, assholes would dramatically reduce in number.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Here are some things you need to understand about Purple Pill Debate:
--most of the women are from the coasts, white, uppermiddle class, and educated.
--the few women who don't meet those criteria, are dyed in the wool radical feminists, or from the UK, or a member of some aggrieved minority. But they are still upper middle class on up, and "educated".
--most of the Blue men there are men who haven't needed Red Pill, because they either
1) Got really lucky
2) Won life's lottery and have always had good luck and fortune with women
3) Have been with their wives/GFs since they were about 12 years old
And a majority of the posters there are
--young (under age 30)
--have never been married
--have never been through any truly trying or taxing life experience
--are independently wealthy and/or living off trust fund money and/or simply don't work
These are people who live life on easy mode. Don't forget that when you read there.
[–]Fantoche_Dreemurr79 points80 points81 points (4 children) | Copy Link
Every woman's ex is an "asshole" and was "abusive". You will never hear her blame problems on herself, that never happened in history.
[–]shetoldmeto804 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That is true.
[–]OniiChanStopNotThere0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
They are literally incapable of coming to terms with the fact that they have flaws.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
yet she marries him. actions speak louder than words
[–]beenthere7890 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
What, don't you know,? All men are conniving assholes who purposely put on a sincere loving face at the beginning and purposely trapped them them because they were all sociopathic Evil Geniuses!! The fact that this is happened 100 times in their life it's really not the woman's fault because she can't learn or understand what is happening to her, it's because all men are abusers with an agenda to trap these poor damsels in distress over and over again ... how and why do we do this to these poor unwitting naive innocent creatures?
[–]Red-Lantern53 points54 points55 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Let me stop you there.
Take it away Jack
[–][deleted] 20 points21 points22 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Jeeez. That was a cold one.
[–]CoMaBlaCK14 points15 points16 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Jack dropping redpills.
[–]NickTesla2018Built his own hamster wheel44 points45 points46 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Most women are self-destructive and only get off on dating shitheads. No personal responsibility.
[–]Whirrlz21 points22 points23 points (6 children) | Copy Link
I like how the comments are saying that the blame should be put on shitty men even though every pre-red pilled guy has blamed other men at least once in their lives. What has it solved? Jack shit except just more responsibility taken off the womans shoulders. And they want it to continue because they love the lack of accountability.
Seriously. Think about it. That's like blaming Mcdonalds and want everyobe to go up in arms against it just because it made you fat. Dumbass you chose to eat there.
[–]books_are_friends2 points3 points4 points (4 children) | Copy Link
Wait what do you mean when you say pre-red pilled guys blamed other men? Could you elaborate please if you don’t mind?
[–]Whirrlz7 points8 points9 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm pretty sure most red pill guys converted from blue pill. So the blue pill inside us wanted to always believe women no matter what. We never blamed them. We always blamed the shitty dudes.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Or we blamed ourselves. Even for things that weren’t our fault.
[–]Captainbuttman0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Have you ever read the sentiment that Simps enable shitty behavior from women? That would be blaming men for the behavior of women.
[–]books_are_friends0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes okay thank you. That’s a helpful example!
[–]houseoftolstoyHeavy Marauder of Truth Bombs1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
What the still blue pilled guys don't understand is that everyone has a responsibility to look out for the best interests of themselves. This means that you should make choices that mitigate what bad things may happen if others are assholes. This is why you lock your car, your house, keep your financial information secret, keep your passwords secret. It is simply in your best interests.
Why is it so hard to acknowledge that women should be mindful in their choices of men? Women (especially if they are attractive) wield much power in the dating world, and therefore have the ability to use that power to find many men they can be involved with. If they involve themselves with men who pump and dump them or abuse them, they are not acting in their best interest if they desire a long term relationship with a caring man. It is not a matter of whether or not they deserve treatment from these guys, but if they want better, they need to understand that their decisions can make a huge difference.
[–]CiceroVoltaireSr. Hamster Analyst26 points27 points28 points (1 child) | Copy Link
drama, passion, tingles, they think they can change them or they have the magic V. if the guy stopped being an asshole, she'd lose interest fast. If subdued and tamed Chad or Tyrone would be just another simp.
rinse and repeat.
I think Marquis de Sade was spot on, "I've already told you: the only way to a woman's heart is along the path of torment. I know none other as sure. "
[–]shetoldmeto808 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That De Sade quote is quite accurate, sadly.
I find myself having to play the "asshole" game just to keep women somewhat interested in me.
I don't like doing it, I find it unethical "don't do unto others etc..." but sadly it seems this is the only way it works...
[–]empatheticapathetic10 points11 points12 points (2 children) | Copy Link
The rationalisation in those comments are all you need to see.
[–]ReadMyHistoryBitch6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Too bad the only people who will read them already know these facts in the first place.
[–]NohoTwoPointOhJr. Hamster Analyst0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
(For those of us who attended public school, that fancy word means 'hamster'.
In the case of that thread, it means "mega-fucking-hamster-power".)
ETA: The reason for 2 hamsters? They are hamstering so hard against accountability and agency that they won't even discuss accountability and agency.
[–]ZefirezJr. Hamster Analyst11 points12 points13 points (3 children) | Copy Link
“well, this douchebag seems nice,"...
Royal BS. They KNOW they are douches, that's why they're into them in the first place. She believes that her vagina will make the douchebag nice (to her and ppl she chooses only), then is shocked that's not how it works. Clearly she must've run into a rare case of vag-brain-washing immune jerk, a rare species indeed, which often makes her want to take up the challenge even more, provided he didn't already leave on his own (and erazed all traces of his existance), or slammed her into the wall one time too many in a fit of rage...
If they thought their douches were "nice" they would end up running away from them, same as they do with your normal "nice guy"...
[–]BewareTheOldManEndorsed2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
That's an interesting analysis. If a woman TRULY wants a Nice Guy, then just date the Nice Guy versus selecting the handsome jerk.
What's REALLY going on is these women want the Nice Guy, but in Mr. Hot Guy's body. That's the real conundrum for these women - getting used by the conspicuously handsome jerk, while trying to "convert" him into Mr. Wonderful and failing miserably in the process. That's their frustration.
[–]ZefirezJr. Hamster Analyst4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I think that depends. If it's Chad then that can be true, or should i say "can" be true, because Chad can be charming and positive and that won't cause tingles to go away. Sexy body (plus other women wanting to ride that rod) will keep tingles tingling....
But there's a lot of "Tyrone" attraction, when a chick simply goes for the thug, druggie (and i don't mean the weed smoking hippie), or serial cheater. Here she doesn't want to turn him, she wants to tame him. She doesn't want him to stop being a thug, jerk, or picture of chastity. She wants him to change for HER but her only. It's like a monster truck for her. She wants to grab the wheel and control whose sedan is gonna get flattened and whose not. She wants that control, power others don't have over him. But she does not want it to turn into a safe, non threatening, safe family car that won't cause troubles to anyone anymore!
[–]0signal0Metal AF1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Vag-brainwashing-immune jerk checking in.
[–]SilverGryphonWorking his way to the titty top7 points8 points9 points (1 child) | Copy Link
PPD...lol. For a brief time it looked like it really was a mix of red and blue pilled posts, but over time it's becoming more and more like askwomen, redpilledwomen and the bluepill.
[–]BewareTheOldManEndorsed7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
A lot it is "Not All Women are Like That" - so yeah...
[–]shetoldmeto806 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I recently became aware of some drama surrounding a 22 yo I originally thought to be a classy, smart and yes a very pretty woman.
I discovered she is currently extremely depressive because she has recently realized she had grown to have the reputation of being the "town bike". I thought: "how can this be?, she looked like she'd be quite picky and smart when choosing partners if anything"...
So I asked around and discovered she surprisingly has very low self-esteem and her "fix" is to sleep around... Ok whatever...
And then I found out who she had slept with (some guys I knew somewhat and some I didn't but ended up asking about): they all have a thing in common, they are known to be shitheads.
Now she laments that because of her reputation no man wants her beyond a ONS.
I mean you'd think that after a couple failed attempts at a proper relationship with such men she would perhaps rethink her romantic life, but no apparently she kept at it, sinking deeper in depression every time. If she was hoping to perhaps "change them" into ideal partners, she was obviously very naive... I don't know...
[–]3amDinner7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
"Women need to take responsibility"
i stopped reading here hahahahahahaha
[–]RedLetterWordSr. Hamster Analyst6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I always visit these types of threads wishing more Blue Pillers on PPD would chime in and give an explanations offering insight as to why they hold their opinions tot he contrary. It never happens. It's a lot of "nah", a lot of "yikes", and a lot of "guys do it too".
[–]rationalthought314Jr. Hamster Analyst2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
There's a difference between men and women and bad relationships. Typically most men are attracted to a woman's positive qualities and many bad women were chameleons whose negative traits were hidden and only started to reveal themselves later.
On the opposite side with the exception of the male chameleon a lot of women who have been in bad relationships were often attracted to those men precisely because of their negative traits i.e. bad boy behavior.
in other words men were not seeking bad women to have relationships with but many women do fooling themselves into thinking "he's not that bad"
[–]JakeJake1121 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
You attract what you think you worth.
[–]twittyswister0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
While this is all true, I notice that often enough people here just take a woman's word for what her ex was like. If you listen to enough women with shitty relationship histories, you start to notice that, well, hey, what do all these stories have in common? I mean, maybe he really wasn't that bad: Maybe YOU were the troublemaker. It's not like we ever get his side of the story, after all. I wonder what he'd say.