One way to tell that an incel story might be fake is if it suggests that being angry over rejection and dating difficulties is a bad thing, that the men who express it are wrong, or if it pushes a "women are people and need to be respected" narrative.

where_muh_good_mens · 2018-10-03T13:59:16+00:00

"I'm not all that attractive. I have a speech impediment. I'm not good socially"

"it let us feel like it wasn't our fault"

Wait, does being at fault for things you cannot change actually grow selfrespect? I think not. In fact, that line of thinking causes self destructive behaviors and depression.

This has got to be fake or at least exaggerated. Men that women despise for problems they cannot control don't just wake up one day and decide women still despise them but at least it is their fault that they do. That is just absurd and ridiculous, especially after such an individual takes the black pill and finds out all the lies they have been told. It's infuriating and definitely not "a substitute for what you are missing".

oirectine00 · 2018-10-03T14:12:56+00:00

Think about it this way: if he told it how it actually is, it would probably be taken down right away. The only way an incel's frustration can be heard is through carefully curated and trimmed language and by taking all the blame onto oneself.

I say this from experience.

I've said less than this when I explained why I'm going my own way. I left "I feel women owe me a chance" out of the equation entirely. Yet I've still been given the "You're scary", "You're an incel", "You hate women" by feminists. I didn't even say women were at fault: I said I was giving up online dating because it felt like casting all my efforts into a void because women are inundated with endless male attention.

I simply said "I'm going to wait for women to come to me and impress me" and essentially framed it as "I'm not what they're looking for so I'm going to focus on myself for now", but that apparently makes me "Elliot Rodgers" or some bullshit like that. Unless the suggestion is coming from HER, you're a misogynist pig or a basement dweller or an incel or whatever.

You can't even slightly APPROACH criticizing them because that's an attack on all womenkind and a manifestation of millennia of oppression apparently.

loneliness-inc · 2018-10-03T14:59:51+00:00

I may have to disagree with the shitlord, his majesty sir Kevin.

Unfortunately, there's more than one generation of men who are raised by single mothers + a female dominated school system. They therefore have no idea how men ought to think because they grew up away from toxic masculinity.

These men are confused. Really confused. Super duper confused. Until they wake up to TRP and its truths, they'll believe all the bullshit they're fed, contradictions and all. This is the sad reality of life in the west. Unfortunately, this story is all too real for so many people.

escalover · 2018-10-03T16:06:45+00:00

I still haven’t got laid, but my chance will come in my 30s when one of my female cohorts needs a man around to help with Chads kids.

MentalRecluse · 2018-10-03T18:55:40+00:00

"It let us feel like it wasn't our fault"

Is this dude saying that it actually is his own fault that he was born unattractive has a speech impediment

Also, why does his post not mention how he "got out"? What changed? Or is he still the same ugly, stuttering loner just now he doesn't "identify" as an incel any more? BS.

Harry_Teak · 2018-10-03T19:57:05+00:00

While the poster's analysis of why people join hate groups and the benefits they get from it are quite valid, I think it's a little too valid to be an authentic post. I'd say it was written by someone trying a bit too hard to define inceldom as a hate group. They're taking a page from the Jesus freaks that claim to be a former Satanist, libertine, drug user, or whatever the sin du jour might be.

Sure, incel forums are hotbeds of frustration. I mean, these are guys who couldn't get laid in a whorehouse with a fistful of fifties to hear them tell it. That sort of frustration is bound to either generate sorrow, rage, or both and the lads do go overboard from time to time, but a group of people expressing frustration is not a hate group.

ransay3277 · 2018-10-03T18:33:59+00:00

Sorry buddy, I read it. Your still not getting laid.

Please_Be_My_Friend · 2018-10-03T19:24:23+00:00

As someone who got stood up this very afternoon, I’m not angry, I’m extremely depressed. It’s 3:30pm and I’m already in bed. I’m not feeding off the anger, I’m just laying in a cold dark room.

Chairman_Ellen_Pao · 2018-10-04T01:44:48+00:00

Everybody knows that real men don't use Instagram! #ThisIsFake

BluepillProfessor · 2018-10-03T16:04:04+00:00

This is what happens when one of our brothers listens to a woman.

O My people! Their oppressors are children, And women rule over them. O My people! Those who guide you lead you astray And confuse the direction of your paths.

News flash: It aint going to get you laid brah.

[deleted] · 2018-10-04T13:36:00+00:00

I can't figure out if this is fake or if it's the most shameless example of white knighting that I've ever seen.

Blogginginvicecity · 2018-10-04T03:28:14+00:00

Well I believe it because it sounds like my situation and it sounds like he isn't passing too much judgement, as though he is trying to explain his experience.

At the same time I totally see what you mean, as I can also imagine some soyNY fellow writing this.

I believe it's legit primarily because this sounds like how I explain my red pill site interest to my very blue pilled friends. I might say there is "pseudoscience," (in many passionate community there are circlejerkers who make exaggerated statements because people know the context), but at the same time I don't say the relative amount of what I find to be legitimate science 😉. I'd make the analogy of the single woman on reddit leaving out the details of why she broke up with her last partner. We understand that when it's overwhelmingly guys fault, the woman won't shut up about the gory details. For me, I'm seeing the words he's not saying.

Gamopetalous · 2018-10-04T19:05:01+00:00

If you've put yourself out there with self depreciating yet entitled creep vibes only to come away with deepening psychosis upon receiving what one might rightly expect to receive, rejection, it IS your fault!

The best thing for any of you to do is realize this, and actually put some effort into becoming a better human being. (Warning though, you're in danger of actually loving someone else when you begin to love yourself)

Nov51605 · 2018-10-05T02:49:07+00:00

Holy shit, it's really tough stomaching the r/niceguys posts. How primed are they to gettin pegged if they ever got the time of day from one of those THOTS ?

harharry · 2018-10-05T03:06:01+00:00

Sounds like a Stasi confessional. Absolutely revolting words. He did nothing wrong, why does he think that beating himself up on the internet is the right thing? It’s not.

Sure women often are terrible. No better than any man out there. It’s life, to an extent it’s a shitshow.

If a woman wants to waste her best years on guys who won’t do her any good, that’s her choice. We play our part by reminding her that we owe her nothing when she returns a ragged whore looking for money.

Mr_Meme_Machine · 2018-10-12T17:01:55+00:00

Nice guys is such a horrible sub, people there are worse than incels.