Why ugly / average girls on social media / Tinder are disrespectful?

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March 3, 2020

I'm lucky to be somehow good looking so i'm getting a lot of matches on Tinder and such apps

I don't give a shit i use an auto clicker on my phone to like everyone, and then i send the same copy pasta opener line to every girls "Does that mean we are bf and gf now" ? for the lolz

Most good looking girls answer in a very fun way and enter the game, and it lead sometimes to cool dates and fuck

But ugly and average girls "No" , "You gotta deserve me" , "You won't have this chance" "You have a lot of work to do for that"

Do ugly girls and average girls thinks they have a lot better SMV than hot girls ?

I will never ever notice them IRL and reject them all if they approach or anything

i feel like every single girls think they are extremly good looking now because of those betas spamming them on social medias / tinder apps

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Title Why ugly / average girls on social media / Tinder are disrespectful?
Author lyniaa
Upvotes 194
Comments 100
Date 03 March 2020 09:25 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/352049
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/fd1t0i/why_ugly_average_girls_on_social_media_tinder_are/
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[–]AJ_KG_JG209 points210 points  (15 children) | Copy

It's probably the way they bolster their ego, since they ain't good looking, they try to make themselves feel better by putting others down, etc. I've noticed similar things IRL (uglier girls having bitchier, more entitled attitudes).

[–]CarlCarlton71 points72 points  (10 children) | Copy

There's a girl in my uni classes, who unironically reminds me of this everytime I look at her. She is the most disrespectful, snarky, uncooperative and bitchy teammate I've ever had to deal with.

I've seen her complain a few times in the comment section of a university Facebook meme page that she wish she had more friends, on posts related to loneliness and meeting new people. I almost want to create a fake account just to reply "How about you stop bitching every goddamn second of your existence? Maybe THEN people wouldn't be loathing your mere presence."

[–]PhaedrusHunt4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Man I went to grad school with this bitch that was so fucking fat, ugly, entitled, and super annoying. Liberal, virtue signaling, really unpleasant voice. She was good in school and we worked together on a couple projects.

But one time after class where we happened to be sitting next to each other I had a question and just sort of tapped her on the shoulder a couple times, said, "Hey, I was wondering something." This bitch . "DON'T HIT ME! KEEP YOUR HANDS TO YOURSELF."

Bitch, don't worry. I won't. Never-fucking mind.

[–]Kabuki43113 points14 points  (8 children) | Copy

Why fake account? Call her out that way she knows theres a man out there with balls who won't put up with her shit

[–]CarlCarlton73 points74 points  (6 children) | Copy

My dad taught me an important lesson; if you're gonna retaliate on someone, don't do it in written form under your legal name, unless you're prepared to have your words used against you in the worst way possible. I graduate in one year, I don't want shit from the administration for harassment or whatever. But, if I do have to deal with her crap in person again, I won't beat around the bush.

[–]LordFa98 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

At very least use a fake female account so she cant whip out the pussy pass against you

[–]HurricaneHugues0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She's gonna sick one of her beta tech lords on OP and then discover his real identity. RIP

[–]HotelMohelHolidayInn6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

"Advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." ― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring

[–]lust-boy3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

as long as you say it righteously and reasonably detached from spite I think you should be fine

[–]TheDopestPope2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's a good point. But it also speaks to how superficial and bullshit text-based interactions are. If you secretly want to post on her facebook, then just tell her that shit in person. Don't be a dick about it because she won't listen but just hit her with the truth bomb and walk off. Then your dreams of becoming a supreme court justice won't be tarnished, you special guy.

[–]AntonioOSalazar0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah that's a no from me, universities are infested with lefties and white knights if he does it those fuckers will cry wolf to the administration and she might accuse him of rape. Don't pick unnecessary fights.

[–]madfrombrad80 points81 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ugly girls also love the “no hookup” line while hot girls straight up say they wanna get their cheeks clapped in their bio

[–]jkeegan1230 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

It's true that all of the SJW's you see are definitely not easy on the eyes.

[–]i-am-the-prize0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

of course not. they're rebelling from a system that values what they don't have: physical and facial beauty.

if they had both or a lot of either they'd be parlaying those assets for VIP club passes, dinners and dates with AFCs galore.

they're bitter because they got the "short straw" in the looks dept, and as guys we value a woman's looks primarily in initial attraction, period.

[–]Ezreal30 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is true and many other commenters have said something similar but I'll add to it that his pick up line would magnify this response.

For instance if his pick up line was just "hey", less good looking girls would be amused enough to respond. But probably the same number of ugly/average girls would respond with something more normal

[–]moneymcgotti76 points77 points  (5 children) | Copy

Good quote that I think came from comedian Kate Quigley: “Any anger a woman has just needs to be fucked out of them” Or something like that.... these women are prob getting wack dick..... women can be incels too lol Hoped this helped brother

[–][deleted] 52 points53 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes they are called feminists lol

[–]spedoid12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]GonadGravy4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

I’ve seen her on the Church of what’s happening now...my takeaway is that she’s a vapid, self absorbed bimbo who needs constant validation. Similar to what op describes about average looking women.

She certainly has hit the wall, wistfully describes her CC days and sports a thousand cock stare.

[–]moneymcgotti1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]Hungboy6969420-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Always thought this when I saw a not so great looking woman melting downn

[–]1rugged7964 points65 points  (0 children) | Copy

Most of the previous comments are correct.

I'd add that they're faking it 'till they make it.

They probably landed a Chad or two on a rainy day Tuesday in December. Never got any to stick around, but now they think they think they can keep a Chad. In reality, fucking one and keeping one are two different things.

Imagine a guy goes to Miami and rents an expensive car for the weekend. Buys a fake Rolex and borrows a pair of Gucci shoes from his friend.

He's going to be really aggressive in trying to land a bitch, because at midnight, his ride is gonna turn into a pumpkin. He's on the clock, so he's gotta milk it. Same shit.

[–]DwyzieGoat3296 points97 points  (10 children) | Copy

Two words. Attention hyperinflation. Every guy on these apps is simping and boosting the egos of these chicks into the stratosphere. If you were getting 200 messages a day from girls willing to do anything to take you out I think your ego would probably go into overdrive too.

Unfortunately this is the nature of the game these days and it’s almost impossible to experience any success on these apps it’s the hardest way to succeed with women. It’s like wanting to learn to play soccer and taking on Ronaldo in a free kick competition, it ain’t gonna go well and will just knock your confidence.

Leave tinder. These girls are low value disrespectful hoes, waste of your time.

[–]mega_kook13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

This. You will have MUCH more quality interactions IRL with girls and the bitchy ones won't be able to hold a conversation with you. Like the comment above me said, I feel that dataing apps are a waste of time, especially considering the ratio of rewards you get to work that you put in.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (5 children) | Copy

This doesn't answer OP's question though.

[–]Isbjornsolo1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

The first paragraph explains it perfectly. Put yourself in a women's mind for a couple of minutes.

[–]NightFire453 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why aren't the higher SMV women bitchy is OP's question?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

No, it explains the reason for the ego boost but not why low smv girls seem to have more.

[–]Isbjornsolo2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It effectivly shifts their perceived attractiveness. They maybe a 4, but on tinder they are being inendated with messages. So they think they are an 8. If you are a 6 & message them, they believe they are higher in SMV than you. So won't "stoop" down to your level.

This is why face to face is a better strategy for 90% of men. I'm probably a 6 in attractiveness but i've dated 8s because i did it in person. Tied together with a strong frame and my personal mission.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hot girls already know they are hot, so there is no change in their self-perception. Fat ugly cunts, OTOH, are falsely led to believe they are hot, which then creates a perception discordance, because is non-simps be like, ”Wut? Her? FUCK NO!!” when fugly bitches act like they think hot girls act.

[–]McVaghunter1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

it’s almost impossible to experience any success on these apps
Leave tinder

Instead of bitching about not getting any matches, I suggest you level up your SMV and take some pictures worthy of swiping them right.

Every guy on these apps is simping and boosting the egos of these chicks

You mean most guys: low SMV cucks who double and triple text girls who ignore them, cucks who like every post made by girls who never like theirs. Just don't behave like a cuck and you'll be fine.

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[–]IronPollack0833 points34 points  (0 children) | Copy

Even ugly average girls get a lot of matches on tinder.

That’s an ego boost for them since they never got that amount of attention.

They have always been disrespectful, but now they think they can show it to anyone they seem undeserving.

[–]ThrowawayYAYAY200228 points29 points  (4 children) | Copy

Because "online" is the only place these clowns get attention.

Out in the real world, without filters, and with real competition from attractive women, these women go unnoticed.

[–]Livecrazyjoe5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

This is the best answer I've read. Especially the line about the filters.

[–]ThrowawayYAYAY20022 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

It is downright frightening what women can do with filters (and angles).

[–]volvostupidshit1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

AND lighting.

[–]volvostupidshit1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

AND lighting.

[–]IXseed74 points75 points  (7 children) | Copy

The more avg a hoe looks, the more guys think they actually have a shot, the more cock gets thrown at her, the bigger her ego gets, the more she gets to respond with this dumb bullshit.

[–]Enlightened_Chimp11 points12 points  (4 children) | Copy

Equal amount of cock gets thrown at avg and hot girls. Avg girls just get pumped and dumped more so they have a general negativity/bitchiness about them.

[–]SalporinRP27 points28 points  (3 children) | Copy

Not true. On a night out at the bars the 6s and 7s get hit on a lot more than the 10s because guys think there is a lesser chance the 6s and 7s reject them.

Ironically this ends up backfiring because the 6s and 7s get approached by so many dudes their standards skyrocket

[–]Enlightened_Chimp6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Oh ya, I'm talking about Tinder, not real life.

[–]IXseed1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I agree with that but I'd bet women tend to take their real life "options" with them when it comes to OLD.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Charlie Harper was right all long

[–]OskarDarkness0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This comment should be on top

[–]nagix970 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Gold liner

[–]Monitorul17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think it's just insecurity. The hot girls know you're on an even playing field so they take the joke in stride but the ugly ones are like "omg a hot guy likes me" and become self-conscious so they think your line is you fucking with them. So because they think you're mocking them (only out of their own insecurity) they bite back at you to restore their fragile egos. Only people with weaknesses are perpetually offended. If someone was truly secure in themselves do you think they'd give a shit what you say? PUAs 15 years ago wrote about handling LSE (Low Self Esteem) girls and would say to tone down the negging around 5s and 6s, compared to with 8s and 9s. Same principle.

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[–]J-Unleashed13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fucking a! This is what I tell my friends. Just go talk to her, bro! If she tells you to fuck off, it's an accomplishment. I'll add this: it's better to be rejected by a 10 than it is to be rejected by five 2s.

[–]volvostupidshit6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

If only all men would have a standard like yours, these ugly bitches would not think they are 8s.

[–]Thiswaycomrads13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

  1. Because they get way more attention on line then in real life.
  2. Women act way more respectful face to face.
  3. Asking women out is a lot easier in real time. Online dating really throws everything out of wack.

[–]i-am-the-prize13 points14 points  (2 children) | Copy

it's a defense mechanism. if you're that good looking they know they have no chance and assume you're taking a piss.

the cute chicks think it's banter and banter back. normal and healthy.

lots of chicks that are ugly on the outside are also ugly on the inside. the "not pretty but heart of gold" is a fairy tale I've yet to see play out in the numbers Disney told me it would be.

[–]kingofclubsmorde0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I'll disagree with that but maybe it depends on the country you live and its culture.

In Finland, the better looking you are, the higher ego you have. Good looking girls tend to be egoistic, shallow and dumb people who've got all the things in silver plate. Uglier girls tend to be the opposite but they seem to be clingier. Ofc there are exceptions to the rule tho.

[–]i-am-the-prize1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

pretty girls are catered-to by AFCs, so they can be spoiled, lazy, and egotistical, yes.

but to me it's more about the rarity x the rarity. meaning:

If 1 in 10 women are truly hot. and 1 in 10 are truly good decent people**, it's 1 in 100 that you get a hot person who is truly also a good person in your life.

THEN you add the "if they're hot they get spoiled" maybe it's worse than 1-in-100, but i still think it's still the rarity of 2 groups intersecting (venn style) at the base level. I do not think a solid personality without major insecurities and solid family relationships will magically turn into a bitch when her tits come in. She'll just leverage them, just as you will your gainz in the gym to max your options in the smp.

** decent person does not mean she won't awalt, and have hypergamous urges. But won't cheat or act like a ho when in an LTR, that's my definition of 'decent'.

[–]G4RRETT10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

Read your last sentence and then look in the mirror you goof

[–]GonadGravy6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why isn’t this higher? Op simultaneously outs himself, by his own logic and standards and answered his own question.

This absolutely should be the top comment. How is everyone missing this?

[–]bradyo22 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

OP is active in Tressless (hair loss) and accutane (acne) subreddits, as well as World of Warcraft, Seduction and Tinder swiping subreddits. Methinks the “im lucky enough to be good looking” line is a lie, and that he’s getting these rejections cause his face looks like a bumpy road

[–]Filmguy0009 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

Because the truth is that average/uglier women fuck way more men than hot women. We live in a society with sexually starved men who will fuck anything to get their dicks wet. So consequentially, they will target the lower SMV women because they are too afraid to approach the hotter women. So we now live in a world where being an ugly/fat chick is actually a sexual advantage. Many men may not commit (which may be the cause for eventual attitude/disrespectful outbursts), but they will still get dicked and validated when need be.

I mean try to observe nerd/geek social circles. They usually consist of like 70% men and 30% women and the women are usually plain looking and have weird personalities. But the few chicks in the group almost always have the dudes wrapped around their fingers, even when they have regular sex with the one or two males of the group that have the slightly better genetics of the bunch.

[–]TommyBagheera0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lol at the “sexual advantage” 😂

[–]Mobile_Pepper8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Some get on there just to tear someone’s asshole open and act like a bitch. It’s weird. Like having a good convo, assume it’s in the bag with some uggo, and go with “drinks?” “lol, no thanks.” Wtf?

[–]Domebeers14 points15 points  (4 children) | Copy

every 4 thinks they are an 8 on the internet. Yes you are correct.

One question...why are you hitting on girls you don't want to fuck?

[–]Mobile_Pepper11 points12 points  (3 children) | Copy

bored. they’re easy. easier to tell to fuck off. help you get your groove back. good drill practice. need to fuck something.

ugly girls, they can do it all

[–]rangat4213 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

Apparently they are not easier tho lol

[–]wont_tell_i_refuse_3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

It’s like the corporate ladder you start with an easy assignment you don’t start as a CEO 😂

[–]Mobile_Pepper3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

gotta learn and do your time in trenches before you get promoted bros

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Due to the sausage fest that tinder is, they got an inflated ego. They think they’re hotter than they really are. Unmatch and move on.

[–]stenay5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

I have seen this kind of behavior. I am probably nowhere as good looking as you but uglies and fatties really have a princess attitude.

One time I was using hinge and a girl was showing this kind of behavior. I told her that "princess attitude" is so unattractive. She got all mad. And kept bringing it up how she is not a princess. She is a strong independent girl. We had some arguments and she reported me to hinge. And those cucks over at hinge always side with the girl. I have contacted them many times to explain the situation but they told me that they can't give me another chance.

Other apps don't work for me and I have since moved to approaching in real life. But for reals f that attitude.

[–]Livecrazyjoe0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Why even fight with them?

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[–]volvostupidshit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

They think what makes a man attractive to them is what makes men attracted to them? A projection?

[–]1Red_Pill_Brotherhood2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Who gives a shit? You have the hot ones fucking you- are the ugly/average ones even relevant?

When chicks act difficult/arrogant, just ignore and deal with better women.

[–]__TheDon__2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s mostly men’s fault. Most guys in real life approach the ugly chick rather than her hot friend because they think she’s easier, and are intimidated by the hot one. In many cases, average or below average chicks are approached more than the hot ones all thanks to beta-minded dudes. That gets to their head, and makes them think that they are actually something to desire.

As the great Patrice O’Neal once said, fat chicks don’t deserve to have dignity.

[–]WarDiaz2092 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Over inflated ego's. They think they're worth much more than they are because of how much validation they get on social media

[–]XT3M32 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

in the online era alot of people gas up these average to unattractive girls thinking they are easy lays then that extra attention gets to their head cause they know someone better than you most of the time will dm them.

blame your fellow men for this one.

there a reason why that theory that attractive girls are nicer is true. they are used to thos so they dont need yo get gassed. or in some cases they get hit on less than the 5 in the squad so they are grateful for you

[–]wawakaka2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

ugly girls have low self esteem. most don't have much experience with men so they fear men and fear becomes hate.

hot girls have had male attention and deferment their whole lives. they know how to flirt and how to be nice. they have positive male experience and don't fear men.

[–]DrJamming2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Because they're pump & dump for higher league dudes and they know it.

So that means one of two scenarios imho:

  1. They're dellusional and think that if a Chad blew a load in her then dashed, she can and will get a perma Chad for herself, but this time around she needs to make him work for it, so he doesn't just treat her lika a fast fuck (not happening, obviously).
  2. They know full well their low sexual marketplace value, and blow you off on sight to keep their egos safe, since any form of interaction will clearly lead to the obvious result - her being at the bottom when faced with superior value male.

[–]SteveSan821 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's why I say go for the 9-10s. They give you less bullshit Than 6-7s.

[–]Merica9111 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Couldn't tell ya.. I don't chat with ugly girls like you do

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

So, why do you bother messaging them then? Especially if you get so many matches and responses from attractive women

[–]EdvardMunch1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Its because theyre looking to boost their insecurity.

Think about it. Lets say youre a guy out of shape but smart as fuck and you see a beautiful woman who ignores you. You might tell her looks fade, shes superficial, etc. These girls are doing their best not to feel worthless, and even better if they can say that to a hotter man.

In my experience attractive women have commented on me being hot far more than unattractive women. The more unattractive pretend like it doesnt exist.

[–]Pimpcool4201 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bruh I even got that from a girl who didn't have a profile picture. I was curious what she looked like and she just shot it down immediately 😂

[–]gbnz870 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

In my opinion it doesn't matter how attractive they are it's more so how long they've used the app. Tinder and online dating just makes everyone bitter over time as you have to go through a heap of really terrible people

Less attractive girls get a lot more attention that more attractive girls online so they will get bitter more quickly.

[–]anotherchump990 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think they just shit test everyone at the start because they have low self esteem and insecurity.

Normal self esteem or pretty girls don't need to shit test cuz they know it's a joke and y'all playin

Whaddya think op?

[–]EvelynnSpoiler0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Because alphas used them for sex and they take their frustration out on betas.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think a lot of it has to do with experiences in childhood. Generally less attractive people have harder times finding partners, they become guarded and develop qualities that those 'easier' people don't have that allow them to find worth in themselves that adds value to who they are, especially women from what I've seen. And they aren't all ugly lol.

But if you just mean ratchet ugly bitches that think they're something special with that dog shit personality and fat, no muscle mass body, then I'm with you dude, that shit drives me crazy.

[–]tb1510 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

At least sometimes, they're like that because deep down, they know they will just be a disappointment. She looks nothing like her snapchat filter pics, or she's just boring & lame. She already knows how it's going to end, and it ain't in her favor

[–]Drive_Thru_Sushi0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Because it’s safe. In person interactions are much different. Same reason some dudes go to tinder and Facebook messenger open up with outrageous shit they would never say in public.

[–]Zanford0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Meh girls have the worst ego IME. They're trying to convince themselves that they are the shit and can act like a prima donna. It's like the female version of being a tryhard poseur douche.

I feel like they actually have worse ASD too, perhaps b/c they are more worried about getting pumped and dumped, whereas the 9s and 10s know that pretty much any why will want a relationship and will be throwing lots of gifts, date offers, etc.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thats actually right! Every girl i encountered from 6-9 acted very sweet to me. 5 and below acted very bitchy to me lol

[–]winterequinox0070 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

bad upbringing. don't bother about it

[–]mrrooftops0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

They have to DEMAND because they know they can't COMMAND what they want from guys like the hot girls can.

[–]Auspexel0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sounds like a hard case of Dunning-Kruger effect.

[–]pointster_VSK0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

They are displaying what is considered a “bitch shield”

Their attraction for you is on the fence, so they throw shit at you to prove yourself. It’s called a shit test.

You could simply apply some playful banter and get them to lower it.

Just cuz w HB10 is nice to you, doesn’t mean she’ll fuck you.

[–]Sylvester_Sterone0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Social media inflates all women's SMV. Thousand of guys out there throwing themselves to them while giving them compliments. Of course ugly girls are going to act like "princesses."

Yet, of course they are going to be rude and hostile towards higher quality men. They know they barely have a chance at commitment and have probably been burned as well.

[–]SimplyFishOil0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's a game. Understand that girls are trying to avoid being hit and quitted, and one strategy they're going to use to filter out those kind of guys is by making themselves harder to get.

[–]wowkwo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Because ugly/average girls know that you'll eventually throw them to the side or ditch them.

They are used to being used as doormats.

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[–]roman99789-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

It's just like FDS: low-value women in denial. Fat-nasties think they can create demand by playing hard to get. Pintos priced like Porches. Childen imagine turning into the Hulk. Trump convinces himself we won the popular vote after subtracting nonexistent mass voting fraud and huge numbers at his inauguration.

[–]Axehead880 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

TDS strong with this one.

[–]ging-furikusu-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

hypergamy go take a look at u/faceandlms2 his youtube channel and research the blackpill. Women always look for men above their smv and feel entitled to it

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