Are there older men (30+) in the United States who actually are bachelors and live this kind of life?

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March 3, 2020

It seems like a stuff of fantasy and I have heard this sub attack that life as well but I am talking about a life of

1 - A lot of money

2 - A lot of partying (nightlife, clubs, events, alcohol, etc.)

3 - A lot of random sex with lots of different women

4 - A lot of friends who also do the first 3

Are there actually older guys in the US that live that kind of a life?

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Title Are there older men (30+) in the United States who actually are bachelors and live this kind of life?
Author highighhopes
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Date 03 March 2020 11:53 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]thrwy7547976 points77 points  (1 child) | Copy

Most of the forever bachelors I've seen last till their late 30s. Then, it's marriage, and early 40s they popped out a kid, or two.

It's the sensible thing to do.

Of course, they've all cheated on their wives now and then because they know their SOs can't do better. And, they're loaded, and connected, so they still go around creating mischief by fucking around with the have-nots.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

"its the sensible thing to do"




[–][deleted] 154 points155 points  (3 children) | Copy

Yes and they are not wasting time on red pill message boards

[–]Wtfbyamey14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

But they are living the original red pill life🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️😂

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev22 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, actually, you'd be surprised. "Against boredom, the gods themselves struggle in vain" n'shit.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev76 points77 points  (19 children) | Copy

52 checking in. So, what you are really talking about, because I'm guessing you are a (very) young guy, is having a life where you have a lot of control over what you do, how you spend your time, and have regular access to sex with attractive women.

The reason I say that is that what you are describing is what you imagine your ideal life would be as a full grown man. Why do I think this? Because as a grown man you want to spend a lot less time in clubs than you can imagine, now. Or maybe you are a not-quite-so-young-guy who is pining for a life he didn't have at university (fraternity, sports team, whatever).

1 - Having $ is like having an option on the future...I like the optionality of cash and it's a good idea to have enough of it to last you through a year of expenses and shit. You have to figure out what you're good at and monetize that. And don't get caught up in too much consumerism and buying a lot of shit you don't need. Think of money as a took that can get you things and experiences that you want. Get (and keep) your $ straight.

2 - Partying. Booze. Oy. I enjoy spending time with people whose company I enjoy. This can be by a fire, with a drink, it can be by a pool (whether mine or at a resort), it can be on a boat (better to have a friend with a boat, rather than owning it yourself) or it can be elsewhere.... but this is less and less likely to be in a club with a pounding bass and a dj screaming "IS NEW YORK IN DA' HOUUUUUUUZ?!" When I was in my mid-30s I ran with an early/mid-20s crowd, so sometimes that happened, but now? Fuck that noise. OTOH, if I want to bounce to Europe, Hawaii, wherever, I do it. See #1. If I want to go to a concert or an event, I go.

3 - In my old age, I prefer to at least like the girl as a person. I run a soft-harem of 20-27 year old girls, with one woman in her 30s who is committed to fitness and has kept it right, tight and in the light. Picking up randos is more work and less fun than enjoying sex with women you know and like. Girls are added or subtracted from the rotation as necessary - maybe they decide they want different things, maybe I decide that it's time for them to go. I like being able to have multiple young women I can bang, rather than having ONE woman who is 50 years old deciding if I'm getting laid that night.

4 - You will have less friends who do this as you get older, either because of attrition (a good buddy of mine drank himself to death at 50 - you have to be able to recognize when you need to throttle down, and no amount of interventions from his family and friends would stop him), or marriage, etc. I'm generally in the "APPROVED" category for the wives of my friends (i.e. the wives will not toss a fit if the husbands come hang with me because nobody gets wasted/arrested/dead). Also, you will pick and choose. So when GnR reunited a couple of years ago, I decided I wanted to go. So I picked a friend of mine who I knew would be into it and could swing his half of a pair of front row seats, and I picked a date that was in a city where he lived and he got a hall pass from his wife. It was a great time. If I want to go to Vegas (Spoiler Alert: This isn't all that often. I am a 'casual user' of Vegas) there are a couple of guys I can call and then we go. Also, some of your friends (statistically ~50%) will get divorced so some of them will be more available, but they might have less cash if they got divorce raped or have kids to pay child support on.

If you want to get married later in life that's always an option. If it's in your own age cohort, you will have the advantage of less baggage (no kids, ex-wives, not divorce-raped) and you can pick up younger women if you take care of yourself and learn the signs of young women who prefer older guys.

At any rate, you might profit from reading the "After Hours" and "Advice to Young Men" sections of "CorporateLand" on the sidebar.

ETA: you seem to be focused on externalities to make you happy. Happiness doesn’t come from the outside, it comes from within.

[–]TheTastelessBatman9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

This dude lives.

[–]Protocol_Apollo5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

“Picking up randos is more work and less fun than enjoying sex with women you know and like. Girls are added or subtracted from the rotation as necessary”

How do you go about replacing plates then? Do you just use social circle game? Or do you go daygaming once you have a reason to (when a plate breaks)?

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Both. Less social circle game now - in my 30s, once the female friends of the wives and girlfriends of m friends hit the "Epiphany Phase" and realized that their loser boyfriend was always going to be a loser, I got set up (largely without my participation until it was fait accompli) on a lot of dates. Then, as now, I day game like it's my job. I'm an extrovert and have mastered a "mildly subversive" vibe, so I can chat up women on both the overt and subtextual levels.

[–]DoesItMatterTooYou5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Also 52 and this man is spot on. Best years of my life now and not stopping anytime soon.

[–]TigerTamingSword2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

In hindsight, would you do it all over again as a 20-30's something year old?

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bought Apple at $4 and Amazon at $100 (or whatever).

More seriously, I’d have gone to NYC and California earlier. But who knows, maybe if I had things would not have worked out? The experience I got in the hinterlands put me in position to make $$$ later on.

Oh and I would have FUCKED THE SHIT out of Holly McGowan1 who was VERY CLEARLY green-lighting me when we were 17, but to which I was oblivious. /shrug

More seriously (again) you tend to regret that chances that you didn’t take, and I took my fair share. You can’t torture yourself over shit.

1 In fairness to me, I did nail her sister Heather a few years later, On a visit home, so I count it as a wash.

[–]user201806201 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy

I can confirm the demographic of early 30s guy who completely missed the college partying and 20yo club scene. Nothing can bring back my youth, but I'd kill to have the life you're describing.

My sticking points right now are

  1. I need to get into the ownership side of the coin. I've been saving like crazy for years, and I'm about to take my shot in real estate. Try and get an income property up and running. I've got to get free of the corporate 9 to 5 grind... It's killing my soul, and it takes most of my time. Time that should be spent a. Earning more money via ownership b. learning valuable skills to make me interesting as a human (and as a high value male) c. Gaming girls, particularly day game. (Like you mentioned, I find that the club environment is pretty loud and shitty)

  2. I need to get rid of about 20 pounds of chub. Mainly from my waist and my chin. And bulk up the arms. The arm bulking is actually going reasonably well... The diet changes to get thin are harder, but I'm committed to winning this battle.

  3. I need to find a personal stylist to help me figure out what to do with my hair (starting to go bald) and clothing (I just don't have great fashion sense, and it has to be a style that's congruent with my personality)

  4. I have to decondition the fuck out of my life time of training to be a nice guy.

  5. I have a hard time finding places to meet girls. (Especially with work taking up most hours) I'm thinking about going back to school for an MBA or something in psychology, primarily to have the opportunity to meet college girls (or more specifically, grad student girls)

I don't know what I'm trying to say here. I just got back from a night at salsa, and it was such a slow night, with few prospects (most were in pairs with guys) and while my salsa group had some fun, several guys were just so much better than me. Granted I've only started lessons about a month ago.

I do have one new friend that's a great guy, and a fantastic dancer, so I'm going tomorrow his brain and see if I can accelerate my learning. I can see how being really good at dancing could be great for game. But I've got a ways to go.

Just feeling kinda depressed.

Thanks for your story man, it shows that a good life is possible. At least, I hope it is... I've got a hell of a lot to fix, and time goes so damn fast.

[–]TangoHack4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy

I'm 46, single, no kids. Average job (I don't have much money), live by myself.

Keep dancing, I do the same in order to increase my social circle. Sometimes you don't get to actually pick up so many girls from salsa, bachata and tango (I do all those dances), but you interact with so many hot girls, that it helps a lot with the "abundance" mindset. And it's a great antidote against depression. I was a little depressive, and ever since I started dancing (5 years ago, never stopped) I feel so much better, more positive. It boosts your confidence because a lot of hot and young girls start flirting with you and becoming your friends. Then as a nice side-effect, eventually you end up fucking more girls than before (sometimes not from the dancing community itself, but as a result of a boost in your confidence).

It takes time, though. Same as going to the gym (I also go to the gym, lift and watch my diet). You have to allocate about 6 hrs per week to social dancing (salsa, bachata and/or tango). I recommend going to social ballrooms at least twice a week, to keep your dancing sharp. And throughout the first year, you need to take dancing classes (mandatory) for at least 6 months. It's almost impossible to learn those dances by just going to the venues. You have to take classes, for a few months.

But then, classes themselves can also be quite fun (it's so much better than going to the gym, which I feel as an obligation) and if you are lucky, you can make your first female friends in the dancing community as you go to beginner's classes. The best excuse is "let's practise those moves that we learned today in class".

Like I said, don't expect to get laid directly with the dancing girls (although that may happen from time to time). But DO expect a tremendous boost in your self-confidence as a result of interacting with young and gorgeous girls, daily. You don't even need to buy them a drink, they just want to dance and talk. Plenty of kino, as well.

It's definitely worth your time. And its like having "one more tool" to pick up women and increase your SMV (you still should try and go to the gym, follow a healthy diet and try to dress elegantly). Money doesn't matter that much, having a good vibe is everything.

[–]askmrcia4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

This guy is spot on. I too do social dancing and if anything it will boost your social circle. The more you go to events and classes the more your network within the social dance community will increase.

You don't have to date the girls from class, but girls you meet in class will have friends and you can meet them outside of class. Also I don't think I'm good at all, but everyone thinks I am since I know all the basics. I am not in any competitions or anything, yet just being average is good enough.

The key is keep dancing because its fun and you enjoy it. Trust me after that, the girls will come because a lot of them too join social dance clubs to meet people and date.

[–]user201806200 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I know a guy that does swing dancing, and any city he goes to, he has a new pack of friends within a week. Dance people are friendly, especially if you dance well. And they are less afraid of physical touch. And that's huge for me. I need touch, and I was raised to be super skittish about it.

I wonder if you can go into a bit more detail about how you meet girls that are friends with dance girls? I'm not sure how knowing dance girls from the club would give me access to their nondance friends.

Thank you for the encouragement... After the week I've had, I need it. I keep at the dancing ... I enjoy it, and I'll get good at it... And I'll keep my eyes open for girls that I can escalate with.

I keep forgetting that girls get lonely too. Honestly, sex aside, It would be nice to just be a little less lonely together.

[–]askmrcia0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I wonder if you can go into a bit more detail about how you meet girls that are friends with dance girls?

I do swing more then anything so I can answer. In my swing clubs, there tends to be a lot of people just sitting or standing around waiting for someone to ask them to dance. During that time I make small talk with the girls there.

Simple topics like why they get into swing, where they go for travel and what they like to do in their free time. If you keep seeing these same women over and over you build up rapport and eventually they will add you on facebook or you can get their numbers.

The more you see them the more you can talk to them about whatever. "What you do this weekend? I did xyz this weekend, next time I go I'll invite you out."

It can go a variety of ways and it really depends on the flow of conversation you have w/ them. If the conversation stays platonic either you or them can say you are doing xyz this upcoming weekend and invite one another. I had girls randomly hit me up on messenger saying they were going to a live music event or a club where they bought their friends. They invited me because I was one of the more popular people in the Swing Club and I was cool with them as we talked everytime I saw them. Or I scheduled a bowling event just for fun and people could bring whomever. The more you go and the more you interact with people there, the more people will be comfortable around you to hang out with you outside of class.

After college people join these groups because majority of them are trying to find friends or find someone to date. That doesn't mean go balls to the wall and hit on every girl there. The more you go you will naturally attract women by default because they will simple know you from seeing you there all the time. Some girls there may have boyfriends. If they do, still hang with them platonic because they may invite you out to some party or something where there will be other women.

Also everything I said can be applied to other stuff as well like co-ed bowling leagues, co-ed rec league sports, improv classes, ect....

[–]user201806200 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I know about salsa through friends, and actually had a ldr for about months with a friend of a friend. The mutual friend was her ex... And the two of them met at salsa. So at least sometimes, it seems, dancing cane lead to dating and sex. And it does thankfully tend to attract a younger crowd.

I'm definitely depression prone, although I've dealt with it for so long that I can generally disregard lingering belief that life isn't worth living, and I can see how mastering dance could be a huge tool to help with that. I notice I always feel great when I'm in a flow state or when I'm acting in a domain where I'm competent. And this could hit both of those switches. Plus being close to pretty girls, and in a context where sensuality is encouraged, like a sexy tango, or grinding merange, would be nice.

I've just become the webmaster for a local dance group... So I think I can leverage that into free dancing and classes if I play it right. Of course, some of the dances like ballroom have a much higher average age. Still... I think it's a good avenue to pursue.

I'm very technical about learning, so classes are helping, and I intend to keep them up. And you're right, the classes are actually quite fun... Although, mostly they lack single young girls. Those girls tend to just show up at the club, because is doesn't take that much to be a follow... it's the lead that has to know what he's doing.

I am already starting to see some interest from the ladies in my dance class... hinting at practicing outside of class. Which I'm down for, even from just a strictly pragmatic reason.

And honestly... Once I get over the initial hump of sucking... I can see how I could genuinely enjoy myself dancing, and that right there is the vibe I need to have, a guy having a blast, and the girl can feel it. Then when the dance ends... Chat outside, and take a walk. Etc.

Thanks for your detailed reply man... I appreciate you taking time for that. Cheers!

[–]TangoHack0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

the classes are actually quite fun... Although, mostly they lack single young girls. Those girls tend to just show up at the club, because is doesn't take that much to be a follow... it's the lead that has to know what he's doing.

That's right, that's exactly how it works. Nicer & younger girls learn faster, because they only need to learn how to follow. And because they are hotter, everyone wants to dance with them. So they learn faster. It's kind of a darwinian selection of the fittest and youngest girl, if you know what I mean. So paradoxically, older ladies (Milfs and such) tend to take more classes, because they don't dance that much at the social dance. Don't be discouraged by that. Continue to take classes, and become their friend. Your first goal is to become a member of the salsa dancing community. If it only helps you to get rid of depression (and doesn't lead to sex), that's still a huge, major improvement in your quality of life. But in the long term, I promise you it will help you to get laid, too. In an indirect way. Every woman loves a man who can dance.

[–]handfulofnuts1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

There will always be guys better than you at salsa. Cuban dudes hang out in the salsa clubs here in Tokyo, and even the salsa teachers can’t keep up with those guys. Doesn’t matter. Keep at it and in two years you’ll be good enough that any chick would enjoy dancing with you, whether other guys are better or not. You’re not dancing competitively, so you just have to be good enough to have fun.

[–]user201806200 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Food points. And I can see it....I can see moves, the relationship between the moves... It would be easier to see at 1/3rd speed... But it's there..I can visualize it if I try.

I'll keep at it... And I do genuinely have fun. It feels like ice skating... Intend to from alot, because it's fun.

And that attitude, I think, is the key. Isn't it. Thanks

[–]estrogenmilk0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

any tips with the personal stylist part? I need a barber/hairdresser to fix me that isn't a dude in his 50's that takes 5mins to cut it and doesn't give a fuck. and someone/thing for clothes would be good too

[–]user201806200 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Not from me man... That's a thing I'm trying to figure it myself. I feel like I need a legit personal stylist.... Like Jennifer Aniston played on "friends".

Well... One thing I thought of is just going to a woman's salon... The kind of place that does 50.dollar hairdos. They might be able to envision a new style for me would suit me. But IDK

[–]2319Skew0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Well said and thank you for your contribution to the sub.

[–]creating_my_life16 points17 points  (9 children) | Copy

The funny thing about getting older is that #1, #2, and #3 are less important. But you will never understand why until you are older...

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev8 points9 points  (8 children) | Copy

^ This. Well #2 especially, and #3 with randos, anyway.

[–]creating_my_life7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

1: you realize money is a way to live the life you want.

2: Hanging out with my good friends is gold. Partying at clubs? pffft.

3: Knowing that women want me and I can get women if I want. Choosing to do what I want with my time, which might be a woman.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

I think one of us is misinterpreting the other. I read your post as "#1, #2 and #3 are less important" - which is why I responded that #2 and #3 are - meaning that #1 (having enough $ to live as you choose) is still important, but clubs/events/alcohol are not nor is banging randos (as opposed to enjoying regular sex with women whos company you enjoy). Your reply seems more congruent with what I think, generally, but not sure how to square it with your prior one.

[–]creating_my_life1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I was just agreeing with you in more words. OP said, "How many dudes are partying like a college guy in their 30s?" You and I both said, "us older dudes are living life on our terms, and it's pretty damn awesome." rock on.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Right. I think the OP asks in that way because he lacks the context of being older. Or maybe he really wants a “club” life.

[–]agoodcrayon3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

Just curious, how is life at 52?

Do you have regrets or anything you may have missed out on?

How quickly does time fly and what happens when you realize you’re not the young buck you once were?

I’m 25. I wonder what life has in store for me for the next 25 years. In a way, I’ve only started living 7 years ago.

[–]toilets7772 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Also curious about this. 27 over here and am in a bit of a quarter life crisis. Always interested when I see older guys posting here.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Later on you will look back at your "quarter life crisis" and think "WTF was I THINKING?! Things were GREAT!"

In general, guys going through a QLC are (most likely) not as settled as they want to be, and/or have some left over FOMO.

Don't beat yourself up. Go Read the second two sections of CorporateLand, then head to the beach for the weekend.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just curious, how is life at 52?

It's like being 30, only with less gas in the tank.

Do you have regrets or anything you may have missed out on?

No. I'm pretty happy, actually. Are there things I would have done differently? Sure, but you can't torture yourself over that stuff. I've built a pretty good life for myself, as I reckon it.

How quickly does time fly and what happens when you realize you’re not the young buck you once were?

You don't realize that you've lost a step until after you've lost a step. And you must focus on fitness. Not "obsessively" necessarily, but it's easy to fuck things up, and not as easy to un-fuck them as when you were 20.

I think too many guys - and this is how I read the OP - have kind of a "reverse FOMO" where they feel like they already missed out on the "college experience" of partying and getting laid all the time, etc., and somehow have to "make up for it" now, which isn't really how you live your best life in the present. I had a version of that lifestyle, I suppose, where I was on a sports team and was in a house. The important thing you get out of those is the camaraderie at the time and the friendships later, it's not how much you drink and how many sluts you fuck.

I’m 25. I wonder what life has in store for me for the next 25 years. In a way, I’ve only started living 7 years ago.

You are way ahead of the bluepills and bucket crabs. Go to "CorporateLand" on the sidebar and read the "After Hours" and "Advice for Young Men" sections.

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy

I did in my 30s, but lately not so much. Just don't have the drive to go out like I used to. At this point I prefer to do things low-key and have the fun at my place.

Why compete against an entire venue for someone's attention when I can bring them into my world, the small pond, where I'm the big fish with the highest status. That's how you stack the deck in your favor.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

If one is spending too much time "in da club" at 50, one's life is probably not that great. /shrug

[–]i-am-the-prize24 points25 points  (6 children) | Copy

i am married and late 40's. one of my friends (near 20 yr friendship) is 51 and single. he was engaged once, but never married. he has no kids. he does well financially but is not a business owner, pulls like quarter mil salary + bonus, but we live in an expensive city. he's not rich, but without kids and no debt, he travels, dresses well, has a sweet place to himself and does a lot of eating out and concerts galore.

he's RP without knowing RP. I've hinted a few things to him and he's like: "no shit, what's the hook?" he's a Natural, truly busy living life. He's about 6'2" average to handsome, lifts for fitness (not size) but it's his natural game that does it for him. he. talks. to. every. body. he bangs 23-27yr olds routinely. he has a few cougars (hot hot ass signle moms) on speed dial as they are "less headache to bust a nut" but pulls kidless tail half his age all the time. what we call plates he calls 'dates' and he has 3-4 girls always in his rotation. we share a block of tickets for a pro-sports-team season tickets, so go out as a group 3-4x a month during the season as a group, and I meet his plates. they are no shit hot, not just young, nothing below an HB8, like turn heads hot. social proof big time b/c when we go out to dinner before hand, or bars after, he seems to know everyone, and the hotter his date, the more competition from the women he says hello to (ie: they begin text'ing him within minutes, and he shows me his phone and grins). he gets selfie nudes (aka: self shots) from prevoius plates to get his attention, he uses "clean your room" and shit like we read about naturally, it's a sight to behold. (and no, these games are not a first date. a chick only comes to dinner and the game with us *after* they've fucked, our seats are top notch courtside, so he doesn't waste them on 'maybe' girls, only confirmed lays). oh funny part, since we're courtside we're really easy to spot on TV and my wife usually quips the next morning, "so, XYZ's date last night was rather tall and blonde and busty..." me: "she's alright... lots of pretty women out there..." so instant dread vicariously through proximity. ah good times.

f2f: he's not an asshole to them, quite the opposite, meaning he always acts a gentleman** when in a group setting, unless they shit on him overtly, then tells them to bounce (mid date) and pay for their own cab, but chicks boomerang to him a lot, when they drift because they met up with someone 'steady' but then get single again, they call him back for sex and no commit fun.

**gentleman who's only weakness is he doesn't put up with shittests. I tell him it's normal and that means they like him, and are testing him, but he does an instant n.e.x.t if it's anything more than spirited banter. that's his one weakness. I know it's awalt and part of the female vetting process, he sees it as an annoyance not worth putting up with - and his abundance gives him that choice.

when I take my non-RP business contacts and non-RP friends out with us to the pro-game/dinner/drinks, their jaws drop. it's funny to watch BP married guys see "what a lone wolf" who eats what he wants for dinner, looks like in the wild.

yes, he's real, yes it's fun to go out with him, but no, he's not common. even in the wild he's an easy 1 in a 100.

I've asked him: do you want kids/family? him: yeah, it's crossed my mind, but haven't found the right one yet. so he's not anti-anything, just picky and enjoying the best life for now.

[–]user201806209 points10 points  (4 children) | Copy

God damn. How in the hell do I become him?

[–]IATAsshole3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Create enough abundance.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

You read my posts on the sidebar.

[–]i-am-the-prize2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

funny, other than the music thing you do when i read your posts i thought of him and you two being similar. no shit.

he's a huge music fan, like travels out of the country for festivals and around the US monthly to concerts, but he can't carry a tune or play an instrument, unlike you.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

when i read your posts i thought of him and you two being similar. no shit.

I got that sense also.

[–]btrpb1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't think I'm quite the socialite your friend is, but I'm 42, divorced, managed to hold on to a reasonable amount of money, earning 6 figures, "eat what I want for dinner" and of got plates aged from 23 to 43.

It's possible. And it's fun. I learned my own lessons about women in life, so when I discovered the red pill I was like, "oh yeah, makes sense", and it has definitely made it easy for me to live the life I'm now living.

It's kinda nice I got my kids from marriage. Now life is good and I thoroughly recommended this lifestyle.

[–]nDoMitable10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’d probably think that’s prime age... peak of your career and you should have your shit together by then so why the fuck not.

[–]redpill_scientist928 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

A few of my uncles did this and it’s interesting to see how they turned out.

One of them ended up getting into drugs and is pushing 60 living at his dads. He works constantly and probably has some money but never got too far, has 5 duis and is a grandfather to 3. Dates 23 year old girls he most likely does hard drugs with.

The other is bitter as fuck-he was a player for years than found a woman that was way higher social status than him. He was in his 40s and had an apartment and was a liquor distributor, she owned a house with an in ground pool and had 2 kids. They dated for 5 years and he ended up getting dumped, he’s been bitter since. In his mid-50s, chills at the bar and talks shit about all of his friends ltrs, gets mad when I leave family events to go get laid.

The last one is probably the most financially successful, he’s been a player his entire life and has worked odd jobs forever. His jobs are not impressive but he’s a penny pincher and very good with money. He works and lives on a ranch and also works at a factory. On the side he does custom body work on old muscle cars. This is one of the most authentic and genuine people I’ve ever met in my life. He has an ltr that has her own place, but He has a cabin on the ranch that I’ve heard stories of him bringing women back to my entire life. I’ve heard stories of this guy bringing back my friends moms and random women from around town for as long as I can remember, and his ltr knows but stays with him. He’s also pushing 60, kind of a drunk and kind of sad, sometimes talks about how the only women he ever loved was his baby mama (they broke up 30+ years ago)

I have another uncle that I didn’t mention because he’s been married for 35 years and makes 6 figures.

If I could ever choose to live any of their lives it certainly wouldn’t be the first 2 and would most likely be the one on the ranch. But I don’t want to live any of these lifestyles. Honestly it kinda scares me, Many say having a kid and settling down isn’t redpilled but I’d like to by the time I’m 35 or 40, I don’t want to turn into these guys.

[–]DatRiggz7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Man that was a brutal read.

[–]alphakari7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

A lot of partying

This isn't really fun for most men. A lot of money is lost, and the environment itself is hectic. There's a reason a lot of the guys who thrive in those environments look like losers. It just isn't a sustainable fantasy. It's the type of shit people who buy lottery tickets dream up.

[–]volvostupidshit4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

It will eventually take a toll on your health and appearance. I'd say partying every now and then would be ideal.

[–]Hungboy69694200 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

When j was 19-23 or so, I loved partying/late night /drugs. At 28, I've toned way back. Maybe a handful of nights a year, especially if I'm traveling and with friends. Otherwise , im pretty over it for the most part

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yes. It is easy to achieve if you are not pathetic.

The real problem going into your later years is do you actually care about the social fabric of your culture, should you raise a family instead of just running a muck.

[–]into_being1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy


Though “a muck” seems to have some added meaning...

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[–]Cientocincuenta3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I have 2 cousins over 40 living this life. Both fuck 20 somethings all the time. Both on good paying jobs. Both jacked, confident. One bald, the other has goldie lock's curls. Both have baby mommas though.

[–]Haytch12345 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

My manager at work is 46. Got a partner 2 years ago and got kids with the partner.

He is originally from the US. Looks really good for his age. Before he had a partner he was dating around and having house parties all the time.

It happens. Wouldnt be surprised if he fucks other women on the side. It comes with the territory of being able to meet and fuck women.

[–]wont_tell_i_refuse_3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’d be more curious if men with this life existed who didn’t make a lot of money.

[–]RFBComp3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

I play in high stakes home poker games in Los Angeles. 90% of the guys are 40+ recently divorced and loaded. It’s a crazy crowd to hang around beautiful women at the games a lot of booze and drugs. These guys are living like they are in college w/ money.

[–]goldenpoopstain2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

This sounds awesome. All underground? How do you get into something like this?

[–]RFBComp0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Yes, at peoples houses. If you play poker and get in the scene you start to get invited to all of them.

[–]goldenpoopstain0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Dope. You started by just playing local casinos?

[–]RFBComp1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, that’s how I got invited at first.

[–]ThinSpiritual1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Basically every nightlife venue on weekends in NYC lol.

[–]Hungboy69694200 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yea if you're in a big city with nightlife like NYC, la, Miami etc this is commonplace. The very wealthy move their for the environment and access to women

[–]Hungboy69694200 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yea if you're in a big city with nightlife like NYC, la, Miami etc this is commonplace. The very wealthy move their for the environment and access to women

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, although it seems like most of them eventually do get married. They'll marry a 10 who is 20-30 years younger than them when they're in their 50s, usually.

What this says to me is that most men, even those who can have it all due to looks, money, status, do eventually get tired of gaming and decide to settle down eventually. And that's OK.

It's important to pay attention to how other men turn out as they get older. Nothing is a bigger signifier of where you're heading. This is why I don't get a vasectomy even though I feel right now like I never want to have kids. Things can change. Important to remember that.

[–]Whitefarmer1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

Probably but the real men are raising kids with a woman that would do anything for them

[–]handfulofnuts4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Found the woman in the thread.

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[–]TangoHack1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

😆😆😆 You made me laugh a lot.

[–]Whitefarmer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah real men are 4 inches taller then the average soy boy

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Saying "real men" instantly disqualified your comment dude.

[–]Whitefarmer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Right on dude !

[–]disposable_me_00010 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Of course. If you have money, you can get women. Both Trump and Dicaprio have shown that.

[–]frognads0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Her husband did

[–]RedPill_Dragon0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

1 - A lot of money--> yes

2 - A lot of partying (nightlife, clubs, events, alcohol, etc.)--> Hell no

3 - A lot of random sex with lots of different women--> LOL hahaha, no.

4 - A lot of friends who also do the first 3--> No

Basically, if you are earning a lot, then you are working to death if you are a normal person.

[–]Liqurt1172 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Well aren’t you a beta bucks/wage slave

[–]RedPill_Dragon1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Over $300,000 and I'll gladly be a wage slave.

My money is for me, not for a woman.

And I'm sure Christ would love to talk with you.

[–]Liqurt1170 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lmfao what are you doing on a Redpill sub?

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[–]RedPill_Dragon0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm happy.

[–]pilot333-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s rare but yes. 0.1% of population at best.

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[–]Filmguy000-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, but not a whole lot.

[–]Cryptomineand69-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

every dude in miami that actually has money

[–]reddit_man64-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dan Bilzerian?

[–]Siyuen_Tea[🍰] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you did it right early. Your 30's are prime. You've got a good job with people you like and you've gone up enough to be able to do as you please.

If you want to see if it's true, go to the clubs. Go to the spring break hot spots. The younger crowd got there money from their parents. The 30's crowd is when you got it all your own.

Ime they don't have a lot of friends. The majority are more or less acquaintances that they invited and then they have there core of about 3-4 friends. There's always someone who wants to go out, so you keep a large group so you never go alone.

They call those acquaintances friends but the average person doesn't as they feel like they need to know more about a person to call them that.

[–]Endorsed Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

A lot of men in this position are using the power of the dollar relative to other currencies to live this kind of life abroad.

So basically expats in a place like Thailand.

The lifestyle your describing requires a lot of free time and a lot of money and relative good health things that are usually mutually exclusive.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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