Should I just hire a prostitute to lose my virginity?

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March 5, 2020
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Im 19 and I feel like I subconsciously put sex on such a pedestal that it‘s nearly impossible to talk with girls in a playful / cool way. Generally im touch starved and each time a girl kind of gets touchy it‘s just such a big deal to me and I start being awkward asf. But also I dont wanna be that guy that lost his virginity to a prostitute cause I couldn’t get it another way. And I wouldn‘t want to lie in the future to somoene about it, I wanna be honest to people. What do I do?


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Title Should I just hire a prostitute to lose my virginity?
Author throwaway817228
Upvotes 81
Comments 146
Date 05 March 2020 10:06 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]Quanginni126 points127 points  (32 children) | Copy

My personal opinion would be no. I lost mine when I was 20 or 21. I hadnt even kissed a girl before that. I was oblivious when it came to girls and the only reason why I had sex that night was because the girl was leading me into bed. She asked if I was sleepy and I wanted to sleep over. I went to bed and tried to sleep until she asked if I was gonna come over her side on the bed. Thats when I realized she wanted sex. For me its a story Im not embarrassed to tell because I just look at myself at that age as a too innocent kid that didnt know anything. Its something in the past and Im not like that anymore so Im cool with it. Its like when you were a kid you probably did a lot of stupid stuff that is just funny to tell people.

Dont overthink sex, its just an activity horny people like to do. Losing my virginity didnt change how I was, I was still the innocent ignorant kid after that. Nobody thought I was a virgin, nobody noticed I had sex. I felt happy the next day ofc but that went away pretty quickly and I was back to normal. How I talked to girls was still the same. I still didnt get laid until I figured how to socialize.

Things that changed I guess was my sex drive, it became much better, I actually wanted sex and I did approach more girls. I could actually talk about sex stuff, and understand what people ment about certain stuff

So for me, getting a prostitute is a no for the first time

[–]its_meKnightSwolaire27 points28 points  (8 children) | Copy

Wow almost same story for me. Was a month before my 19th birthday. Never even kissed a girl.. but there was one at my work with the biggest rack ever and I just had to try asking her out, regardless of my previous bad luck with women. Turns out she we was a true nympho who literally can’t say no to any man.

[–]JSJRB14928 points9 points  (7 children) | Copy

You lucky bastard. What city did she live in again?

[–]its_meKnightSwolaire3 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy

Ha.. well trust me this one is not worth it

[–]JSJRB14925 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy

A huge rack is always worth the lone bang.

[–]its_meKnightSwolaire4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

It was interesting to lose my virginity to her. Never saw boobs that big again. Turns out they were Triple D... must have weighed a lot. She wasn’t fat either.

[–]cfbovernfl1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

How long did you last? I would've came in a couple minutes haha.

[–]its_meKnightSwolaire1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It was a long time ago but I remember lasting a while. To be honest the second time was more enjoyable. The first time was all a shock. I crossed multiple hurdles all in the matter of an hour. First real kiss, first making out, playing with titties and pussy, etc all a big shock

[–]theredsperg1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

not if she's 500kg and looks like big bertha

[–]its_meKnightSwolaire0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed. A fat chick with tits is like a person bragging about being on vacation because they are unemployed

[–]tenghu9 points10 points  (7 children) | Copy

Had the same experience.

To OP: Don’t rush it bro. Let it happen naturally.

[–]babybopp8 points9 points  (6 children) | Copy

get a prostitute and get it over with. i wish i had that option. by telling OP no you guys are putting pussy in a pedestal. pussy is pussy. the only thing that bothers me about this is that OP plans to tak about it in the future.. to who? why?

if a dude cant demystify pussy, get a prostitute and get it over with. there are more advantages to it than the option. what makes a girl riding the carousels pussy better? statistically she is more likely to get pregnant or transmit a disease. also chances are OP with his virginity will not enjoy it. a prostitute will be more of a relaxing experience. just tell her and she will treat you gentle. not like the option of getting a girl who will tell the whole neighborhood that you were limp dick or premature when you have your anxiety.

stop with that advise. OP, get an escort and get it over with. dont get used to them after that is the only advise. but for a starter, fuck a ho and then bask in your glory. and again, why the fuck would you want to talk to anyone about it after this anyway?

[–]TFWnoLTR7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah, OP, listen to this guy who can't spell or capitalise his sentances. Lmao

[–]black-cattle-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

OP before you do this grow a set of fucking balls and ask 10 girls out. You might be surprised how many say yes.

[–]tenghu1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I get what you mean but one of the best pieces of advice I ever got in my life was to not pay for sex. I got that advice from an ugly, fat guy. He said if he himself never had to pay for sex, then neither should I.

Now that I think about it, a date is paying for sex in a way...🤔

[–]Quanginni1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I also I agree with you because everyone has their own life and their own decisions. Ive got tons of friends that like prostitutes and I know 1 guy that had one for his first time, he is really bad with women though so not a good example.

My point wasnt that you gonna tell people later in life and you wouldnt want to tell people that your first time was with a prostitute. What Im saying is that getting over your virginity is not gonna be the answer to be able to get laid or be more relaxed with girls. If he wants to be better at flirting and be more comfortable around them when they get touchy then thats what he needs to do. And a lot of it until the next phase. Can be with same girl or different girls but he needs to DO what he struggles with, a lot. Not just lose his virginity, thats just where he feels insecure. Its a problem from his own thoughts, not the real problem

[–]babybopp1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

i lost my virginity at 19 and this was after i had to move out of my parents house. i ended up loosening up after i got my first girlfriend. thing i am saying is that it is not the same thing fr girls and guys. There isnt a special girl to wait for any more. they already have been sexually active since they were 14 and above. some of the girls already are in double digit n count at age 18. now this depends on your location. if you are in a conservative area then banging them is also near impossible.

So the mantra that guys should all wait for the perfect girl, is not the right thing to teach a whole generation of millions of virgins in these times. Guys need to rip the bandaid off, fuck an escort to catch up to the game and demystify the pussy. it is the only way they will have a fighting chance and not end up with roses and on bended knee asking sluts to the prom. What i can say is that CONTINUALLY buying escorts is what is the problem. Use them to break the seal and up your game from there. I have a friend of mine that had this crippling anxiety when the thought of fucking a girl came to mind. He literally would go semi catatonic. He was a virgin at 24 and broke down to me in a trip to vegas, drunk and a slobbering mess. Got him a prostitute and long story short, he fucked her. he could not believe his dick was inside a pussy. She ended up staying the night and the dude railed her like he would never hit pussy again. After that, he changed. That pussy worship that had him running errands for girls who never fucked him, being designated driver, dropping of girls to dudes homes,paying for shit with the hopes of getting a crumb of pussy.... vanished! He turned into a pussy slayer and ended up fucking some of the same girls he was a pussy to. OP needs to get that over and done with. Guys are already playing with a loaded deck.

EDIT: grammar

[–]Quanginni0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I dont think you understood my point. Never told him to "wait" for the perfect girl to take his virginity.

Ill say it for the last time. He struggles with getting a girl because when he flirts and they get touchy, he gets nervous and freezes. He THINKS its because he is a virgin.

I am saying that he is wrong. Its not about him being a virgin, hes overthinking it. Nobody knows he is a virgin until he says it out loud. And even if he got laid with whoever, nobody will still notice. So it is an internal problem he made by overthinking it and his actions shows it.

So what Im telling him is not give a fuck that he is a virgin because nobody else cares. So why the fuck should he care. His problem is not "not having sex". His problems is being uncomfortable around girls when flirting/touching. He cannot get a girl to bed. Thats his problem, and thats where his focus should be. So he should be out there talking to as many girls as possible to get over nervousness when talking to them

[–]Studyr3ddit4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

How did you learn to socialize? How can I learn even though I think that I'm pretty good.

[–]Quanginni7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

It depends on what your weakpoints are. What are you bad at.

Being social was part of my job so I had a colleague/mentor telling me my body language was too locked up. I had to spread my arms and legs when talking to people. Actually helped a lot but was very awkward the first few months because I had to exaggerate. Also because of my job I could practice there, talking to 20-30 people a day.

Another thing I was bad at was smalltalk, asking how they are. How their day has been. Hows work, how was their weekend. Once I learned a shit ton of questions there was so much I could learn about them. And when you remember stuff you keep asking about them and just over a few conversations they will like you so much they smile when they see you and come running to tell you new stuff without you needing to say a word.

I was also very closed off personally, I didnt share anything about me until people asked and people rarely asked because I never asked them stuff. But I learned that if you can relate with something relevant just share it. They will open up themselves the more open you are.

If you see very outgoing people, learn from them. Actually ask them how to get a good relation to people. You dont need to be funny, witty or have the loudest voice in the room. In fact when theres more than 3 people, I am totally quiet because a group conversation is a totally different thing that I know nothing about.

Also first impression, always smile and say: Hi how are you? Or hows it going or something similar. Follow up with some more questions to show interest in them The people that lead conversations are the ones asking the questions. Theres also people nonstop talking telling stories and stuff which are nice I guess but that is not my thing.

As I said, dont know anything about you but this is what I had to improve

[–]Studyr3ddit2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Thanks! Something that a female colleague told me yesterday was that she doesn't know whether to approach me or not. My resting face looks really sad when I'm locked in the computer programming and she doesn't know whether I'm angry or having a bad day or something. She said my energy is low and when I get away from the computer it increases and she feels more comfortable talking.

I guess I should smile more and practice having softer eyes when I'm by myself.

I also have trouble introducing myself to new people and when it comes to talking to people at a party, I sometimes freeze up when I want to flirt with women.

[–]Quanginni1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I was known for having a death stare so I kinda get what you mean by your face scaring people off. Youve encountered people on the street, mall, store, work where they always smile when seeing someone. Smile is easy, no need to fake a whole personality. Dont worry about how your face look otherwise, the smile is enough even for the scariest looking person.

Flirting and parties are a different thing as well. Im not good with parties and flirting Im only good at 1 on 1. And everyone has a different approach. Theres a lot of materials out there but I think if you have basic body language where you look confident. Keep eye contact, lead conversation and also good compliments. I would start there if youre not comfortable because its very straightfoward and simple(not easy). And then be more and more daring as you get more comfortable

Introducing at parties I do same approach: smile, say Hi, shake hands and say your name. Then say hows it going. I just keep 1 on 1 conversations because thats what I know. 10-15min with a couple people and the rest of the night your their friend. Also be extra excited about everything they say.

[–]DerpJungler17 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy

My guy you were almost raped lol

[–]Quanginni15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy

If a hot girl like that want to rape me now Im just gonna play along

[–]VigilantSmartbomb5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sameee lmao

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[–]Quanginni0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Yes but losing my virginity didnt solve my game with girls. Him losing his wont either. Being a virgin is not his real issue. Its something he is insecure about. But getting over it wont make him better with girls which is his real problem here

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[–]Quanginni0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

But he struggles with getting a girl and that only becomes easier once youve done that like you said. Not skipping that part and just have sex

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[–]Quanginni0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I do agree with you to some extent. I just think that having sex and getting a girl is two entirely different things. Having sex wont make you better at getting a girl. And knowing how to get a girl wont make you better at sex because they are different.

What I think would help him with his confidence and such is if he managed to get a 9 or a 10 girl. Then getting any other girls that are under that is gonna be more comfortable. Like your example with heights. But this isnt the solution to his problem either.

Another example is if a not so good looking guy has problems with talking to girls because he thinks he doesnt look good enough and has low confidence because of his looks. Then start workout out to get ripped is still not the right answer. It might help as getting laid helps getting over overthinking his virginity. But I dont think its the right way

[–]laserdicks98 points99 points  (8 children) | Copy

Nup, skip the prostitute. I mean, you do you but it's just going to be disappointing and awkward. Might as well do disappointing and awkward for free.

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[–]holyrasta11 points12 points  (5 children) | Copy

Faping and paying will be escape goats for ever if you go down that path. Trust me.

But if it is a experiment/ experience you wish maybe its a good ideia just once. I mean if your desperate maybe it will calm you down or wanna test something b4 you go to the real game. Any other case this will not fullfill you.

[–]johnjohntv6927 points28 points  (4 children) | Copy

escape goats

🤨

[–]holyrasta-2 points-1 points  (3 children) | Copy

Scape goats are things you do that take you away from the thing you have to face. Kind of this.

[–]johnjohntv696 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

Lmao, it was the fact that you wrote ESCAPE goats, not scape goats. Even then, you aren't using 'scape goat' correctly either.

[–]holyrasta3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

I am not english

[–]Ill_mumble_that1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Damn frenchman

[–]PM_ME_THICC_GIRLS1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Might as well do disappointing and awkward for free.

Dude you just blew my mind hahahaha

[–]Jessor6918 points19 points  (7 children) | Copy

How many girls have you approached?

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[–]Jessor6938 points39 points  (2 children) | Copy

It's a numbers game man

More approaches better the chances, if you're looking for permission to use a prostitute to lose your virginity then I here by grant it to you. But don't get sucked in the bottomless money hole that is paying for pussy.

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[–]Jessor6917 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

Touch starvation is deadly man, but you're definitely putting sex on a pedestal. Why would you using a prostitute ever come into conversation anyway? Just do it and keep it to yourself, and if it does do what you said and lie.

[–]MagicPiper1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sure you do. You said there’s a city 20 minutes away with 100,000 people. That sounds like plenty of opportunities to approach. I mean it’s 20 minutes. What excuse do you have to not make that trip?

[–]tikna0011 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Do u know a good working girl that can show u around? If not ask around and maybe some friends might fix ur introductions.

Working girls are also a different ball game, go to a well know one.

Rest, keep at it.

[–]DerpJungler10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

Start lifting, raise your testosterone and develop a DGAF attitude.

You are still young. I got laid for the first time way older than you and it only happened when i stopped giving a fuck about a fuck.

Seriously, lift and dgaf. You will also find approaching women more natural and less awkward when you start being outcome independent and not giving any fucks about scoring.

[–]ovrload-4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

you dont need to lift to pick up girls.

[–]Vamlack8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dude, trust me. In itself, sex is just "meh". It's not great, not bad. A regular wank is better than bad sex, and sex without feeling is just like a good wank.

Just wait for a true experience. Even a one night stand with a girl you just met at a pub is better than a hooker (talking from experience), because at least there is some form of alchemy.

I never had sex with a hooker, but my first time was with a girl I had no feelings for, and it was shit.

Just wait for it. It will come sooner than you expect.

[–]VSelf4717 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

I did at 24, 26 now.

Does not help with game/anxiety at all.

You are going to be tempted to do it again.

At least you get over it, it will be somewhat awkward however you look at it.

If you do it, find an attractive hooker, seriously, will make the whole thing easier, up to you if you tell her it’s your first time, I did not.

I don’t regret it, eventually I managed to get a girl home and it was way more satisfying. I even use hookers from time to time when I got the money and when I really don’t want to spend energy gaming.

Nobody has ever asked how I lost my virginity.

[–]nateydanger3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

While I can see how this solves the immediate issue of not being a virgin anymore it doesn't solve the deeper "awkward around women" issue. You paying someone to sleep with you is putting a band-aid on a broken arm bud. You'll just be the guy awkward around women who slept with a prostitute to lose his virginity. I argue that it deepens the problem and doesn't really solve anything.

The real question is where does this fear of the opposite sex come from? Typically it comes from fear of rejection or fear of intimacy. These situations are only solved by putting on your big boy pants and pushing through them. How do we do it?

  1. Find a MAN (not a woman, which is typically what we as men do) who has / can do what you want. Someone who has the confidence you seek with women and ask him how he does it.
  2. Acceptance/Rejection usually happens within the first few minutes of meeting a potential partner so it's all about how you present yourself. Im not saying that you don't practice these things but take a good look at how you groom/dress yourself. Maybe it's time to get into a routine haircut schedule. Maybe it's time to take a look at the wardrobe. Sit back and analyze all these things in your life. I'm not saying you have to dress like other people, but your gear should be clean and presentable.
  3. drop the fear of rejection. It's not a situation where "you aren't good enough" for a partner it's more "you don't fit" that partner. That's okay! As someone who is average (at best) with engaging women I get more rejections than i get numbers. The answer is always no unless you ask.
  4. If you disregard everything I say in this take this one piece of advice with you. Women can sense intention. If you go into ANY situation with a "Just trying to get laid" mindset it will be easily spotted. FOCUS ON YOURSELF. I dont go out to get girls, I go out to have fun. My life does not revolve around girls. I do the things I like to do and I wear the clothes I like to wear and I hangout with the people I like to hangout and that gives me confidence and in turn that confidence will be easily sensed.

Have faith my dude. Work on yourself and it will come.

EDIT: I assumed gender in this so my bad but this advice can go for any pronoun you choose.

[–]84JPG4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

I will go against the consensus and say yes if being a virgin bothers you so much, it will be awkward and you won't enjoy it much but it will mentally help you by taking that off your mind and will make sex seem less of a big deal for you which will give your more confidence in the future.

As for losing your virginity to a prostitute, no one needs to know.

[–]Transport1271 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That’s exactly my thought too

[–]thrwy754792 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You're young. A lot of people around your age are virgins. You're not alone, and it's nothing to be concerned about.

As long as there are prospects around, and you're not living in Antarctica, work on gaming. The long-term rewards are better.

Also:

And I wouldn‘t want to lie in the future to somoene about it, I wanna be honest to people.

There is such a thing as being "stupid honest", and you won't survive in life if you play it that way. In fact, you'll be eaten alive.

[–]lvpvsdacvs20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

Do whatever you want. Dont ask strangers for validation on the internweb. If i were in your situation i would do it

[–]nameisahmad4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

DONT DO IT, again, DONT even let it cross your mind. Paying for sex IS THE WORST THING YOU CAN DO, there are plenty of people who will say that either way you’re still paying for it, its not and it will never be. Having sex the standard way, requires game, social skills, confidence. Youll improve yourself socially, become socially intelligent, a skill that is fading nowadays from too much social media and real life interactions. Why would you skip all the benefits from approaching a girl to going on dates, developing a connection, new experiences to just the least important part which is sex? Are you that desperate? Id say work on yourself, become your mental point of origin. And dont even think about it, resist the urge, just the thought or the risk of catching an std will make you change your mind. Believe in yourself, your much more powerful than you think you are.

[–]pointster_VSK4 points5 points  (13 children) | Copy

How old are you?

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[–]pointster_VSK1 point2 points  (11 children) | Copy

On a scale of 1-10, how good looking are you?

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[–]pointster_VSK26 points27 points  (5 children) | Copy

Ok. Unless you live in some town where there is only 5 girls, women in your age bracket and pretty much begging to be fucked.

If you’re going to join a sub like TRP, then why not use the information provided to become a pussy slayer, instead of asking a group of men for permission to buy a prostitute when we don’t advocate buying pussy.

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[–]depressedfuckboi7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

20 mins is a really short drive. I understand it's not your home town and out of your comfort zone, but I can guarantee doing this the natural way will lead to a much better experience than hiring a hoe. You said you rate yourself a 7-8 looks wise, you're young, you got that going for you. Time to take that trip to the bigger city just 20 mins away. City that big there's guaranteed to be some night life. Go get em tiger

[–]Ill_mumble_that4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Leave the nest motherfucker.

You don't start out as a man. But spend enough time in uncomfortable situations and you will become one. And the discomfort you previously had will become power.

Go to this town. Go there frequently. Get to know people. Don't make sex your goal. Your goal should be to find people just to hang out with there. Specifically find Guys who are getting laid, and chicks that like to party.

[–]aDrunkenWhaler1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you live in a big city it usually takes at least 30min to drive anywhere. If you go on a date, usually 30 min drive or by bus. To a club? Same thing. To work? Probably more. 20 min is actually close. The only difference is that the city has a different name, which means nothing.

[–]ovrload0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

youre probably a 5-6. because men who are 7-8 on the looks scale have no trouble, unless they are full on autistic

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[–]ovrload2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

you do realise a 5-6 isnt ugly? and rating yourself an 8 is model tier

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (9 children) | Copy

Download tinder man. If your goodlooking youll get matches easily

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[–]depressedfuckboi3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Expand your search radius. When I had mine set to 20 miles I'd run out of potential people to swipe on as tinder would say there's no new singles in my area or something of that effect. Changed it to 100 and the age to 18-40 and voila

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Really? Move to another area lol

[–]On_The_Tweek_Again0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Then travel to the nearest college town. My town is kinda small too but there’s still a decent pool of women. Whenever I run out, I just switch it to like Tallahassee. Endless supply of women.

Lower your standards. Find a girl who is a little insecure herself and dominate her. Fake it till you make it. Be funny on your profile and take good pictures. Stop overthinking it. They’re just women and there’s literally nothing to worry about. Rejection happens but you gotta keep moving.

Whatever you do, don’t fucking loser your virginity to a prostitute. That literally will mean nothing and is a dangerous idea (STDs and against the law). Fucking a prostitute won’t build confidence or game. Work hard, find women who are a tad below your SMV and work your way up.

[–]shitpommesfrites-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Well, maybe you shouldnt aim for the hottest girls around for your first time...

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You're dumb, he might as well pay for it if he can't get it up.

[–]ovrload2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

nah you need solid game and holding frame for tinder matches bro

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I would. No shame.

[–]ofthewhite1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

No, you'd be squandering one of the few opportunities for a guy to feel empowered.

[–]Strip_Bar1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes

[–]nexther1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don’t you dare. Learn game the hard way. You’ll fail. But guess what, the guys who fail the most get laid the most.

[–]mrrooftops1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nothing beats sex with people who are totally into you. Prostitutes won't be.

[–]OgScz1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Go for it. Its nice.

[–]RevolutionaryPea71 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't do it. You'll lose your virginity eventually, especially if you're a 7/10 as you claim. Nobody cares when or how you lost your virginity and if anyone asks about N count you'll lie just like every other guy (that one time you drunkenly kissed a woman in a bar was sex, right?)

[–]backizwack1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

My friend lost his virginity to a prostitute when we were 19, visiting San Diego To see our friend graduate from the marine corps. He said he enjoyed it, but he passed away a couple years ago.

Life’s short. Fuck it.

[–]VigilantSmartbomb1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Imagine buying a prostitute. And then another, and then another, and then another instead of learning how to socialize with chicks. Man that’s create the opposite effect! I feel like this is the same argument as why or not to use porn. It might seriously fuck up ya brain and take a minute to reverse if you go down this path. Just wait it out man. If girls know you’re a virgin a lot of them will want to fuck you just because of that. I told this one girl I wanted to lose it finally and she took the lead instantly and was like oh I’ll teach you, this, and that. And then later found out she just wanted to take my v card lmao just be you! Go get some sex bro 😂

[–]muricanwerewolf11 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

A lot of guys are virgins at 19. I took another two years after that to lose it. A lot of 19 year olds are awkward as fuck. Keep talking to women and keep lifting. You are lifting, right?

[–]LeatherBoundWisdom1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I was in a similar position to you, was a 20 year old virgin, placed an inordinate amount of significance on my virginity.

For me, there was perhaps some irrational symbolism in my mind about losing my virginity "fairly". I had never been intimate with a woman, and I had a fear that I was fundamentally inadequate. I wanted to abolish that fear from my mind, and the only way I could disprove it was for a woman to actually validate me. For that reason, I pushed to lose my virginity without paying for a girl to fuck me. After lifting and approaching for 3 months, I pulled from a club and had the worst sex of my life, but my dick went inside and that was a win for me lol.

I don't think it really matters either way. The irrational psychological significance you're going to place on your virginity is pretty much unavoidable. Even after you fuck the first time, it's still going to be there. Losing your virginity to a prostitute likely won't change that. You just have to keep gathering experience and you'll see the true mundane nature of sex, and of attraction.

As far as deep underlying fears of inadequacy, I don't think those ever go away either. Even at 7 bodies, I still think on some level women only want to fuck me because I'm in a fraternity, and if they saw the "real" me, without the fraternity image, they would think I'm inadequate. But behavior isn't so deep. You can eat a cookie without thinking about the existential worth of the cookie, just like women can take a dick without any significant calculation. Just random, flippant, wee woo randomness with rough guidelines.

[–]mugatucrazypills1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wait till you lose your virginity and THEN try a prostitute if you feel like it. Will keep you from thinking the first woman you lay has given you a supreme super magic gift. A problem with prostitutes is that they don't have your best interests aligned any more than any other woman trying to play you in society. If they can make sex a broken thing embarrassing thing that you need to go to them for, you'd be the ideal customer.

The ideal relationship with a prostitute IMO is described by a french poet. A place where you deliberately go outside society/marriage/relationship-contract and all it's burdens transgressive somewhat conspiratorial, direct epicurean sexual relationship-transaction. Have a sandwich first, before you try expensive exotic foods.

" If things don’t change for him, he’s gonna marry the first girl he lays, and she’s gonna treat him like shit, because she will have given him what he has built up in his mind as the end-all, be-all of human existence. She won’t respect him, because you can’t respect somebody who kisses your ass. It just doesn’t work. " Ferris Buller

The sooner you realize it's no big deal at all the better you'll be in life. It's psychological. Go for a run, go to the gym,do or learn something awesome, if you're still horny ... rub one out (fuck you NoFappers). Whatever you need to do.

I don't care how Chad/Brad Pitt you are(and most of us aren't anyways) there's going to be times in your life where women will play the "no pussy" test card. The more awesome you life is the less you'll care, or want to listen to her shit anyways. Or next her.

Of course before you've lost your V card it all seems overwhelming and I understand. - Have a cookie. You'll feel better in a moment.

[–]rnsbrum1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thats exactly what I did lmao. No regrets, it gave me one of the best sex teachers ever

[–]PolesWithGoals1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Literally just no

[–]EdvardMunch1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dont. I was 23 when I lost it. I was so hungry having held out for religion that it pushed me into just going for it one night with a friend. She first hesitated if I really wanted to lose it to her and I said who better. She thought about it then I got my first BJ. Next thing I know she was trying to mount and I was like "woah! On second thoug-" and boom that pussy slipped down and there was no goin back.

Point is dont let it be some transactional bullshit. Have some fun with it man, its life not homework.

[–]mythrowawayyouknow1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I would say no. You’re too young to go down that road. Work on yourself like working out, learning how to talk to girls, have good hygiene, have interesting things to talk about etc.

Yes it’s easier said than done and you’re wondering how do I do those? Go check out some Corey Wayne videos on YouTube, maybe read some stuff on pick up artist stuff to give you an idea how to talk to girls, read the news and books so you’re a smart guy and know stuff, be passionate about what you like so you’re someone full of passion, etc. The YouTube and internet is the source to the solutions, hard part is being disciplined and doing it.

I was a virgin til I was 21 and I got lucky. Now that I’m older, I’m not even thinking about Sex all that much because I have more important things to worry about. If you don’t act desperate then you’ll look good. Have some female friends that you’re not attracted to but can be a friend. A guy looks better to other girls when he’s surrounded himself with girls. Learn how to chit chat and talk to girls about random stuff and not hitting on them. That’s why it’s good to have nonchalant female friends. Go conquer the world, don’t take the easy path

[–]Thrawy1272 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

There's a plethora of Munters of tinder that would swipe and shag anyone.

[–]Mr-Blonde1232 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Go fuck prostitutes if that’s your only option...the problem you have no other options. What are you doing to improve yourself? You seem to think your owed something from a woman, you want something from them but what do you offer in return. There’s always a transaction my friend. Up your game or opt out and take the easy route. Choose your path

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[–]Ill_mumble_that7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

You're god damn right motherfuckee.

Women are not scary. The most they can do is reject you.

If you can handle hanging out with men, women are easy.

  • Women can't beat you up.
  • Women are less aggressive
  • Women are less competitive
  • Women like to be lead
  • Women aren't going to steal yo girl

Hang out with the bros and realize women are a lot easier than men to win over, because if you're a strong good looking male you by default have an authority and power over women.

[–]excalc0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yikes

[–]Silas10670 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I didn't lose my virginity until just after my 20th birthday. Then had pretty steady girlfriends after that.

[–]mrnuttty0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes. Get it over with. Not a big deal. But don’t be silly and get addicted to them.

[–]Appex10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Just take a trip to Asia(preferably Thailand) and use Tinder there. Assuming you're a white guy, most girls would want to fuck you there. That's how I lost my virginity at 19. The only thing that changed was that I could no longer say that I was a virgin. I felt exactly the same before and after and I guarantee you're gonna be mad at yourself for pedestalizing losing your virginity so much only to realize it's not that big of a deal after all.

[–]AuberyBitoni0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Don't do it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No, ew

Edit: save the money and invest it in VTSAX or something, at least you won't be wasting it

[–]Greek-God-Brody0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Do 3 months of hardcore nightgame and daygame cold approaches instead.

[–]GrooveDive0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Probably not, plus you're only 19. No way you can afford it; if you can, that money should go towards an education-- set some goals and do what you can to achieve it, a decent hooker will set you back some financially for not that much reward. Just irresponsible in my opinion, unless you're already loaded with a good career path (in which case you will be able to find girl's without having to pay them).

[–]TFWnoLTR0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Having been with many prostitutes myself, I'd say no on using them for your first time. It's not going to make whatever change you're hoping getting laid will cause for you, and it's not going to.make you feel more confident knowing you paid for your first fuck.

Sex with enthusiastic and willing partners is far better than sex with prostitutes. Even if you manage to find a top of the line call girl, you'll still have that "shes only doing this for the money" feeling underlying it. Most western hookers are terrible at making it feel natural and real, and few even try at all in the first place.

All that said, you do you. This isn't a decision with serious long term implications, as long as you don't end up in legal trouble over it.

[–]Trengingigan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I would say yes

[–]TacoMedic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Copied and pasted from another comment I made on this sub:

I used to pedestalize women because i was a virgin. Then i lost my V card to 4 German hookers over two days. Its been 3 years and I’ve slept with 19 (unpaid) women. It would likely be more if it wasn’t for 2-8 month relationships.

Once you realize that sex is just not that big of a deal, you stop looking up to women and start seeing them as equals.

The only thing that’s changed is I’ve added another notch to the belt. Sex is overrated man.

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire20 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

"You don't want to be that guy..." "You don't want to lie about it..."

Then don't do it.

"I'm touch starved."

Take up social dancing. You will get plenty of touch there. You may meet some women who are interested in you. In any case, it will demystify women somewhat.

Also, it is VERY typical for young men to put pussy on the pedestal, especially if they are virgins. You are young, you are inexperienced, your hormones are raging, you are inexperienced with dealing with that, you are surrounded by young, fertile women. Their body chemicals are acting on you. Nobody prepared you for how to deal with this.

By the way, there is nothing wrong with seeing a prostitute, if it is in a legal jurisdiction, and you can be reasonably sure that the women are being well-compensated and not abused or ill-treated.

It is, after all, just sex. You could just easily have sex with a non-prostitute and have it be a damaging experience in some way: unwanted pregnancy, disease, unwanted emotional reactions, etc.

Sex with a prostitute will teach you several things:

  1. Prostitutes are people too. You can have chemistry with them, or no chemistry with them. You can enjoy their company, or not enjoy their company. Some people like to shit on prostitutes, but they are just running a business of selling sexual services to make ends meet. They make lack better economic opportunities, or they may prefer prostituting their bodies to prostituting their minds like all the other non-stigmatized workers out there.

  2. Sex isn't that special when there isn't anything else behind it, like actual feelings for the person. However, only actually having it can drive this point home.

  3. If you really "need" sex, you can just pay for it. Consequently, you may realize that you don't really need it, but this actually creates abundance mentality, because you are no longer looking to every attractive woman you meet as potential source of sex.

[–]wowkwo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Nope.

Sex isn't what you are really after.

Be a fucking man and improve yourself.

[–]Youngyoda890 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I’m gonna go against the grain and say yes. There is actually a story of someone who did this on trp or asktrp. I don’t remember. He fucked some. Enjoyed it and ended up fucking a lot.

By doing this he developed and idgaf and abundance mentality and eventually he started getting hot ass girls without paying them. He landed a beautiful girlfriend last I heard.

I’m quite a handsome man. I’ve fucked plenty of women. I really don’t know the number. I did a lot of drugs and honestly stopped keeping track. Some of those women have been prostitutes. Almost all of them would ask me why I’m doing it? Confused as handsome as I was why I would “need” to do it. And my answer was always the same. I don’t need to do it. I had a girlfriend with 150k followers (I say this to give you an idea of how hot she was) and I was getting all the sex I wanted from her. I fucked the prostitutes bc it was thrilling and simply put: I wanted to.

I’ve also had 3 very long term relationships, maybe 10 girlfriends and countless fuck buddy/ one night stands. I say countless bc I didn’t keep track. I’m not claiming to have fucked a million women or even a thousand. I’ve always been a quality over quantity guy which is why I don’t care what my number is. I’ve turned a lot of women down who have offered me sex.

I’d say you should do it so you realize that it’s not that big a fuckin deal. It’s hella nice, don’t get me wrong but once you get this out of your system you will be able to finally talk to, and fuck, real women without paying.

Is what I’m suggesting the only way to achieve that? No. But you’re already considering it for that reason so fuckin do it. It’s fun. Just be safe.

To add to this- unless you’re a natural stud, you may struggle with women in your younger years. Although I was always handsome I was blue pulled for quite some time. I remember I used to chase women to the ends of the earth. Now it’s the opposite. Attractive women approach me and sometimes I don’t feel like dealing with them. Some women offer me sex and I don’t feel like driving to them. Sometimes I stand women up on dates.

Right now I’m almost 30.I have 2 professional jobs. I have a girlfriend who’s 21. She does anything I want. She cleans my house bc she wants to. I never ask her. I do treat her well, dinners and such- BC I WANT TO. She provides me companionship. I also talk to her however I want. I call her a bitch all the time. I say things when we’re fucking like “oh you’re so sexy bitch. Keep sucking that dick bitch. Show me how much you want that come bitch. I love you bitch” shit like that.

My point is, don’t stress so much ab little things, what you out in life you will get out.

[–]liquidocean0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

yes

[–]john_L270 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No. If you have to, get with an ugly chick that's still a virgin.

[–]bnguillen0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No don’t do it. Luckily for you, you already discovered the red pill so all you need to do is work on yourself, learn game, hit the gym and you’ll be fine.I lost my Virginity to a prostitute at 24 years old. The experience wasn’t really that great. Also It wasn’t my best time. I was still on that blue pill conditioning and a girl had just rejected my approach from work (obviously a big no no now from the red pill lens) and of course I just got desperate so I was like fuck it. To me prostitutes just make you lazy in approaching girls and learning game because it opens that avenue of easy pussy without the effort. Not to mention the monetary cost of hiring hookers. Remember when you hire a hooker, you get what rollo calls transactional sex and so you’ll never get Genuine desire you would ideally want from a women.

My advice is that you hit the gym, watch all the great red pill channels to improve game. Make the effort to approach and talk to girls. Avoid porn obviously and Make money. lol bro your only 19. Your nowhere close to your peek

[–]flatox0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Do what you gotta do to be the best version of yourself. What that means, only you will know.

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I’m 20 years old and I’m still a virgin. It’s way more common than you think. Most guys our age lie about their notch count. I know a couple guys who are a several years older than me who are still virgins too.

On the contrary, I also have friends who lost theirs at 15, 16, 17 and 18 years old (AKA in high school). These are the guys who had the typical “fuck after prom” fantasies that you see in movies. You know, the scenes most guys envy... (Why is it so easy for Chad?!)

From what I’ve observed, I can say with absolute certainty that there is little correlation between losing your virginity and being happier/ more successful in life. I am doing better in life overall than many of my friends who lost their virginities in the back of a Jeep Wrangler or some shit... You would think they would be farther ahead in life, but you would be wrong. I actually have a greater desire to chase excellence than all of them combined, and it’s working. I’m making more friends, making more money, getting good grades, while all of them are still acting like children. And I know that when I do lose my virginity, it will be a genuine, authentic experience.

I’m gonna leave you with a 100% true story:

My best friend of 12 years began telling me these crazy, wild anecdotes about all the hot girls he would fuck at college. Since he is in a fraternity, naturally, I just believed him. He’s a decent looking dude and very muscular. Typical frat bro. Well last month, after about a year of telling me his wild stories about the sorority girls he fucked doggy style (I told her to turn around and I came right on her face, dude! It was hilarious)... he came clean and said to me, “Listen man, I’m gonna be real with you cuz you’ve always been honest with me. I’ve never had sex in my life.”

Chase excellence my friend, not women (or more specifically, prostitutes in your case).

[–]Senior Contributoradam-l0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You've got no hymen. Only women are virgins or not. You'll be the same after sex. If sex mystifies you so much, get a good prostitute and get it over with.

[–]Cryptomineand690 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

nah. do you wanna be 85 and look back on how you lost your virginity... and it was to a hooker?

[–]Taproot880 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

i lost my V card to a hooker and im 31 now

[–]cfbovernfl0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No, that's only for losers. If you're in college find a girl there. You're still young. If you leave college a virgin you've got serious issues.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Just do it

[–]Rodent90 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Do you hire Chinese students to write your assignments? Don’t cheat.

[–]Sad_Sleeper0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I lost mine at the age of 26, so you have enough time, to fuck a lot of girls. Work on yourself, hit the gym, study, be social. And things will happen.

[–]QuinlanBothese0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It doesnt change shit. I did it , same age didn't change anything.

[–]theredsperg0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You've already admitted this yourself.

I dont wanna be that guy that lost his virginity to a prostitute cause I couldn’t get it another way.

Take your own advice mate.

[–]Totsean0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lost mine to a bar girl when I was 27, I actually flew out of my Country and had sex with a bar girl, don't regret it, my Country is a shithole. And from that moment onward, never looked back. Got a steady GF and fresh pussy on the side, every week :).

Do it, it will get you over few things. Definitely made me go like, WTF I wasted so many years waiting for the perfect partner lol. Wasn't red pilled back then.

[–]a1pple0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Haha you would just be losing money 😂 if it's your first time

[–]theUnBannableHulk0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Could probably do it.

You’re too fucking awkward about the touch thingy and sound like you’ve given up in your mind.

If you don’t want to become a pick up PHAGGOT and just want a girlfriend then you need to work on your inner game.

If you wanna bang sloots you gotta find worse places to live where women are sluts. Also if you wanna be honest about being a virgin then are you also gonna be honest about how you lost your virginity?

Balance that out.

One conversation is “I’ve never had sex”

Other is “I’ve had sex with a prostitute/ lost my virginity to a prostitute”

From your language you just sound like a socially awkward and pussy beta. Also no you’re not 7-8 I’m gonna deduct a point for BSing and say you’re a 6, because a guy who’s cute learns to fuck in school and doesn’t grow to be 19 and “touch starved” whatever the fuck that means.

If banging prostifutes will genuinely help you knock pussy off a pedestal go for it, if it just helps you excuse being a weak scared bitch phaggot then don’t.

Only you know which one it is.

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[–]theUnBannableHulk1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It doesn’t mean you’re an 8 sperglord, random women who like you will compliment ANYTHING even your clown shoes AS AN INDIRECT OPENER.

If the girls are opening you then learn to take the conversation forward, propose an instant date or get number, date then escalate and fuck.

Uour best bet is to ask out alll the girls then take em for drinks and escalate hard physically until one woman decides to let your shriveled peepee defile her blossoming vagina,

Then your peepee will grow bigger with confidence that comes from each success

[–]Annapolis_Silence0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I’m 21 and still a Virgin. It fucking sucks. The worst part is I’m actually good looking, well built, successful, confident, and funny. I compete BJJ and am an electrical engineer for fucks sake. But I fucking hate myself so much. So I’ve never tried to expand my social circle or approach girls. And honestly probably never will. I’m the perfect guy nobody knows about. And at this point I’m just hoping I get to die on a battlefield as a Marine someday.

Fuck this life. It’s horrible and sad. And I’m almost done with it.

[–]Acromion942 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bro... youre just recently developing into your body, mind, social world. About 11 months ago my buddy was killed in the battlefield as a Marine and my guy was only 25 years old. Life can be terrible one moment and great the next.

As a man, you have to GO into the situation. Women have that situation going on as soon as they finish puberty. The other main difference is that as you get older and your net worth builds, you naturally become much more appealing to girls. You must view them as an option, and not take them seriously. Girls looks will fade and there's no recovery for them so they resort to binge eating, wine nights with the girls, and their arsenal of makeup.

So many modern girls have nothing to bring to the table besides their obvious ability to have sex, use your drugs, be up in your business and getting jealous over nothing. They don't plan ahead, just act impulsively and be entitled.

Girls say nothing, act disinterested, and sometimes it takes the smallest thing for you to be up in their guts. Girls get horny bro - just hang around one and she'll either be horny at the end of the night or gross and you don't want to do her. Most girls realize that their value is tied directly to their sexual appeal, and they don't want to *appear* easy. Start dabbling and you will soon see how many of the girls out there simply are not worth the trouble (particularly after getting to know them). When you get detached from the result and just intend to have fun, meet some people, you'll realize there's a design and a way people act in certain conditions. The game is tilted in their favor, but you control the cards if you know how to deal.

[–]__TheDon__2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

“Waaaa, I am perfect!! Why won’t wah-men look at me???” You sound like a post wall hoe asked where have all the good men gone.

If you have this mentality, then you belong in the MGTOW subreddit, not here. You are exposed to all the tools you need to succeed, and yet you’re still bitching. Own your shit and stop being a pussy.

[–]PureFlames0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No lol prostitutes are gross

[–]rn78890 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lol no.

[–]ipwnedx0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Absolutely not.

Are you lifting? Do you have a nice haircut? Good fitting clothes? Are you going out?

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

yes

[–]BojidarKobakov-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy

I would say definetlet. What most of the guys dont understand is that before getting all sensitive and things with a girl they like to be treated like pigs. You grab her for the neck and say ''Ye you like that cucumber don't you''

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[–]BojidarKobakov1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Im being honest with you man. No joke or anything she wants to be manhandled before you get all sensitive and stuff.

[–]zeekt12-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ye bro, just dont get addicted

[–]nadirehsdrawdettocs-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Go ahead and do it. And then acknowledge that losing virginity doesn’t mean shit and doesn’t change a thing.

[–]plymouthSundance-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

No. You’re better than that.

[–]SpyTry-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol and watch how stupid youll feel when you catch feelings for a prostitute



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