"Men are literally freezing women out of the workplace"

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August 3, 2015

Summary: Not content with the progress women have made in the workplace thus far, at least one woman is now targeting the next frontier: A long history of office based environmental abuse against women at the hands of their oppressive male overlords. Watch this hamster spin.

Body: Ahh, the big, bad boogeymen, always trying to keep a girl down. The latest scandal of the patriarchy: The office thermostat. According to the author of this article, "Office temperatures are designed for men."

New "research" based on a sample size of 16 women (!) has led this crazy cunt to rally around "Ending the AC double standard." Yes, she actually wrote that. Apparently, women are more comfortable with room temperatures of around 77 degrees, while men prefer temperatures closer to 72. Even the U.S. Government appears to be in on this plot, clearly catering to men by recommending office temperatures of 69 to 73 degrees. Won't somebody think of the women?

The author will, of course, and her solution is simply genius: "Adjust cooling levels to account for women's comfort" and "dramatically slash energy consumption" while you're at it. (Clearly she's never met the post-menopausal vultures at my office.)

There is no mention of men's comfort. I don't suppose that even crossed her little mind.

Even if we find her data realistic (which I don't, but for the sake of argument I'll play along), her big beef is that women in offices can't wear - her words - "a breezy blouse and matching culottes." Instead, they're stuck "swaddling themselves in cardigans and thermal socks." She wants men to suffer in an office that's too warm for them just so she can look cute. Her choice in fashion is simply more important than the men she shares that space with. We gave these bitches full membership in the good old boy's club complete with better-than-equal opportunities and this is how they repay us: Bitching and nitpicking about every little thing and a total disregard for our feelings, desires, and needs.

Let's hope this nonsense doesn't gain any traction... if it does, you'll find me sitting at my desk in nothing but a speedo for a few hours until security drags me out.

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Title "Men are literally freezing women out of the workplace"
Author 1independentmale
Upvotes 353
Comments 229
Date 03 August 2015 10:16 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/35267
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3fo9wo/men_are_literally_freezing_women_out_of_the/
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[–]GoodOldCharlieFord357 points358 points  (55 children) | Copy

Everyone's overlooking the obvious.

If people prefer different temperatures it's better to err on the side of colder, because it's easier to put on a sweater than to stop sweating.

Not that complicated.

[–]1thiasus69 points70 points  (3 children) | Copy

Not that complicated.

That'd be a solution if the person in question were interested in one, but here the point is to get published and get some press for presenting something outrageous which will however find its inevitable glut of retarded support. Rationality doesn't enter into it.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

If this is the same article I read a few weeks ago, she goes on to say that, "Women dress for summer, and men don't, so why should the women have to suffer?" That is not a direct quote, just a shitty summery of it.

[–]BetterRedThanRed12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

"Women dress for summer, and men don't, so why should the women have to suffer?"

Because it is a workplace and people are supposed to be dressed for work.

You can dress for summer on the beach.

[–][deleted] 138 points139 points  (0 children) | Copy

Not that complicated.

You just figured out why women have a fundamental problem with it.

[–]KarYotypeStereotype62 points63 points  (0 children) | Copy

And the other obvious point, which is that we men have no choice in what we wear to the office. We wear wool slacks, an undershirt, a long sleeve shirt, a tie, and a jacket. Women can wear pretty much whatever they want. Only one gender here has the freedom to adjust their attire for the temperature, and yet somehow the air conditioner is the sexist part of all of this.

[–]Mattpilf19 points20 points  (2 children) | Copy

The other obvious solution is relax men's dress code so they can wear lighter clothes, instead of making men cause the office to smell like your gym with all the sweat and Body oder. Also hot temperatures make people lethargic, so do super cold temperatures, but that more in the 40s than 72.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

I've worked in an office that allowed women to wear capris and dresses-- but would send men home for wearing shorts. HR was called out repeatedly and, suddenly, changed the dress code after someone called their lawyer friend.

[–]6482622 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Here is the plan: raise temperatures, make men smelly, get them fired for lack of hygiene. Women win all.

[–]TRPn00b15 points16 points  (12 children) | Copy

I shit you not, this argument probably helped lead to the failure of my marriage. In the summer time we would fight over differences as small as one degree F on the AC setting while trying to sleep. 75 was the absolute max I could stand, without even a sheet.

Now I sleep with with it at 68 or sometimes lower, and a winter blanket. Bliss.

Hit enter too soon edit: It sounds silly on the face of it, but several weeks/months straight where one person or the other is cranky because of a shitty night's sleep will take a toll on a relationship over the years.

[–]NidStyles4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

At least I am not the only one. If it's above 73 I wake up in the middle of the night sweating like crazy.

[–]JackGoldsteinWrites4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

My LTR and I sleep in separate rooms... people think it's weird, it's actually a life saver.

[–]TRPn00b2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I've read about some studies that find this works really well, actually.

[–]Surf_Or_Die0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I'm the opposite. Below 75 and I'm walking around I jeans and a long sleeve to feel comfortable. I remember in college I always had a hoodie in my backpack even if it was 100 degrees outside cuz inside the ac was blasting and I was freezing.

[–]TheCarm3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

As a Florida boy who webt to college in DC, I almost never went without some sort of jacket... figures my roomates wanted the temp turned to 65 all the time so i just enjoyed the feel of a hoodie even at the gym... women just cant fucking adapt and improvise to their environment, its not in their programming

[–]veyron3003-1 points0 points  (6 children) | Copy

You should have allowed it, but made her pay for the months gas bill.

[–]anon3381 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

No, that is trying to reason with them through logic. We know that will not work and is not the root of the problem. This woman was loosing respect and attraction for the guy. He has to up his game, regain frame, dread game, satisfy her hypergamic impulses, leave blue pill stuff behind. Then he will tell her he is uncomfortable and she will give him comfort.

[–]TRPn00b1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Too late, but if you want, check my post history for "TRP nearly saved my marriage and then I decided I didn't want it to."

[–]anon3380 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Its cool. Thanks.

Yes when the motivations and SMV become apparent, some good reality check hits hard.

[–]BetterRedThanRed0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You misread here. His way would be more expensive.

[–]IronMeltsinmyHands0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I like this idea. If women want higher temperatures they can pay for it.

[–]TRPn00b0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This was in the summer. Lower temperature costs more!

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself31 points32 points  (1 child) | Copy

And nothing is stopping women from wearing pantsuits instead of fuckme blouses and skirts. But they want to be sexually harassed (by Chad of course)

[–]steelerfaninperu12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women and logic don't generally go together.

[–]INomYou8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

Stop oppressing me with your core temperature privilege. You are cold raping me!

[–]getRedPill17 points18 points  (19 children) | Copy

You are not seeing the obvious. For Marxism and modern "soft" marxism, which feminism is it's most successful branch, there 's no will in solving problems. They just to create more problems and division (it's goal: divide and conquer) by sowing the seeds of envy and confrontation where there's no need to be confrontation.

You might think it is curious that this type of annoying people only exists in Europe, US and developed countries in general. You wont see this kind of strugles or feminists in Iran, Zambia or Haiti, where they are really needed. That's no coincidence. Yes, indeed, they have too much free time and comfort.

[–]tyrryt16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

this type of annoying people only exists in Europe, US and developed countries

Comfort is a prerequisite for feminism and all the other sjw foolishness - only when survival and basic needs are guaranteed do people resort to this nonsense to keep themselves occupied.

People who really don't know where their next meal will come from or who have a legitimate fear of survival don't have the luxury of holding screeching protests over the use of the word "he".

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is called "critical theory" and it's the crown jewel of social Marxism invented at the Frankfurt school. In a nutshell, it consists of endlessly complaining about what is wrong with the system, and making problems where there are none. When enough people become complacent in this type of victim based thinking, eventually they blame "the system". The system is whatever group is perceived to be in power: capitalism, patriarchy, white privilege, etc. Once the system is blamed, it will fall via revolution and Marxism will take it's place.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (15 children) | Copy

For Marxism and modern "soft" marxism, which feminism is it's most successful branch, there 's no will in solving problems.

I love Red Pill but that is the biggest stinky load of shit I have seen here for a long time. It's a first world capitalist "individualist" culture problem.

Fucking unbelievable. People read some fucking books from other countries & not just make shit up.

It's as insane as calling Obama a socialist.

The guy is a capitalist shill who got the mass of Americans making mandatory payments to private FOR PROFIT corporate insurance companies but people go around calling the guy a MARXIST, COMMUNIST & SOCIALIST.

It marks a person immediately as being uneducated.

[–]6482620 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There is absolutely correlation between the idea of classless societies and equality between genders though. And it just happens to be that they're both dysfunctional.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Modern feminisme is definitly a branch of socialist thought. Their insistence on being allowed to decide over others and the lack of belief in personal freedom, marks Them as opponents to liberal free markets and capitalism in general. That is also why feminism is most often radically opposed to capitalism.

[–]OmegaParticle0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Individualist problem? Have you ever talked to a feminist or a social justice bigot before? There is no individualism there. They're basically codependent collectivists. The problem is not individualism. The problem is the growing trend in interdependence and collectivism. Individualist cultures have higher respect for basic human rights, and progress at a much faster rate scientifically, technologically and morally. There's a "fad" in our culture where everybody thinks individualism is the problem and collectivism is the answer. I think it's one of the underlying causes of our culture's decline.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Individualist problem? Have you ever talked to a feminist or a social justice bigot before? There is no individualism there.

Yes, I have talked to many. They all exhibit "own special flower" characteristics.

-Individualist cultures have higher respect for basic human rights, and progress at a much faster rate scientifically, technologically and morally.


[–]NidStyles0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Yes, because making a coherent argument is a sign of being uneducated, rather than shameless attacking and negging that person instead.

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[–]NidStyles-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, because you are the only judgement of what is coherent, right?

Perhaps you should try looking the definition of the word up.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

These dudes would sell their castle for a million tins of shoe polish. They haven't a clue what Alienation represents, and they still believe that religion is the equivalent of an opium addiction.

[–]getRedPill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Why not socialist... uhm, your name pretty much says it all.

[–]king_of_red_alphas-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Lol. Yeah the ongoing attempt from many TRP'ers to marry their political ideology to the amoral / apolitical rules of the SMP. Indeed, These are the same people that call Obama a socialist / Muslim / etc.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm sorry but you are plain out wrong. There is a Big difference from acknowledging the political roots of feminism to claiming Obama is a socialist. However, if you understand how the politiical history of America has shaped convictions Then you would see why some people Think this way. There is a deeper political discussion behind some of the things people say, even if they are not aware of the roots of the watered Down ideas they hold.

[–]Lt_Muffintoes-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

What is socialism? What is capitalism? ELI5.

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly what I was thinking.

[–]Thursday0880 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly, nobody wants to be the guy or be around the guy that can't stop sweating at 75f+ with a tie and long sleeves on.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ok, now, seriously, what is wrong with you?! Why are you trying to solve a problem in a rational way??!? You misogynist!

[–]Purecorrupt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Pretty much. You can always wear more clothes, but you can't get more than naked.

[–]BlackHeart890 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You fucking neckbeard. Thats why you can't get any pussy, you cold loving bastard! Btw, recommending they put on a sweater instead of getting naked is sexual harassment, you pervert!


[–]jdgsr0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Quit Whining And Put On A Goddamn Coat: My Journey - Onion Talks - Ep. 8


[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock229 points230 points  (24 children) | Copy

Women are too comfortable. They need drama to live and have a nagging unquenchable need to spout out nonsense to test men. Men being men, they invented things to make the household chores and activities easier and more efficient: the vacuum cleaner, microwave, conventional oven, wash & dryer, sweeper vac, sewage system, the toilet, the sink, the refrigerator, the freezer, etc. The problem is that by relieving women of hardship, they have nothing keeping them occupied and are left to their own devices to entertain themselves. When the environment fails to create anxiety, she will conjure it. Manspreading, gender plowing, patriarchy, rape culture, gamer gate, 'equality in the household chores', etc is all a manifestation of women's need for drama and shit testing.

[–][deleted] 41 points42 points  (5 children) | Copy

In my workplace, they're mostly just looking for reasons to not work. AC to high? Patriarchy! AC hiccups and the mercury hits 80? The entire HR department will bail en masse.

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[–]TunkaTun14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

Meanwhile all the men do all the work....

[–]ConfirmedCynic5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

AC hiccups and the mercury hits 80? The entire HR department will bail en masse.

I like the way you think. AC "incidents".. hmm.

[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is the correct answer.

When we say, "women are like children," this is part of what we mean. They don't know how to garner positive attention, so they complain and throw tantrums to garner NEGATIVE attention.

Infants and toddlers do this shit. As any parent can tell you, you do NOT kowtow to a child's tantrum; you ignore their bullshit and lay down the law. Paradoxically, this reassertion of leadership calms the child. One could call that, "passing the shit test."

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[–]RemyPrice6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

A high-ranking female brought up to me the drama women start from nothing.

The only females that make it to executive level are the ones who learn this valuable skill: keep your personal opinions and drama to yourself.

[–]ModAerobus26 points27 points  (4 children) | Copy

It's sad when you think about it. Men invented and developed so many tools and pioneered new technology, in an effort to help other men and women.

Men have been grateful, of course, but women don't appreciate what's there and stir up drama for the sake of stirring up drama. You are so correct when you say that they need drama to live. All my experiences with women viewed through a red pill lens pretty much confirms the TRP maxim: a woman would rather be insulted than bored.

[–]BetterRedThanRed4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just last week I walked on a sidewalk and there were roadworks making the sidewalk a bit smaller.

Two women (~50 yo) walked there.

Woman 1: "These roadworks are here for two weeks already."

Woman 2: "Yes! This is an imposition!!"

The solipsism is real.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy

Lol so in anime when the world is ending and shit, I bet the old ladies are very happy because they have something to complain about and shit.

[–]ModAerobus0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

In anime, young schoolgirls feel embarassed when a man sees her underwear and exclaims that she can't get married anymore because of how slutty that appears.

Anime is not representative of reality.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Anime is filled with mangina behaviors. It infested dragon ball z in the movie, "Battle of the Gods". Bulma cut her to the professional indypendent short style. Bulma acts masculine. Super saiyans fear to displease their human wives and girlfriends, walking on eggshells. The great vegeta acts like a bitch. It's disgusting.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy

Manspreading, gender plowing, patriarchy, rape culture, gamer gate, 'equality in the household chores', etc is all a manifestation of women's need for drama and shit testing.

Indeed. That's why in the Red Pill we say that feminism is "one giant shit test of society".

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And so far society is failing miserably

[–]BlackHeart893 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

When the environment fails to create anxiety, she will conjure it.

Before I came across TRP, I realized that during/after an LTR. I was convinced that I would only be able to keep women around if I kept drama. I concluded that I must gain a few side bitches...

I ended up decided to just stay single and plate women. Drama for them, relaxation for me.

[–]IronMeltsinmyHands0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I've been telling people, bitches be having too much free time on their hands. Get em married and keep em away from the shrieking harlots out there.

[–]Grompher-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

She has to go cheat on her man cause Thundercock can keep her occupied.

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[–]SleepNowMyThrowaway11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Via Wiki

In 1913, refrigerators for home and domestic use were invented by Fred W. Wolf of Fort Wayne, Indiana with models consisting of a unit that was mounted on top of an ice box.[6] In 1914, engineer Nathaniel B. Wales of Detroit, Michigan, introduced an idea for a practical electric refrigeration unit, which later became the basis for the Kelvinator. A self-contained refrigerator, with a compressor on the bottom of the cabinet was invented by Alfred Mellowes in 1916.

Perhaps Fred was woman's name back then, or he was actually transgender?

[–]evileddy68 points69 points  (4 children) | Copy

Hey there aren't probably any office thermostats deep down in a coal mine... why not work there ladies? In fact.. I demand equality and we put MORE women into coal mines.

[–][deleted] 50 points51 points  (2 children) | Copy

There definitely aren't any thermostats outdoors. How about some construction work? You can help build those gigantic, hideous, energy-chugging McMansions you all want us to buy for you.

[–]evileddy16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy

They can take turns adjusting the AC on the garbage trucks!

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman65 points66 points  (2 children) | Copy

I honestly feel dumber just reading that.

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deleted What is this?

[–]DrScientist8120 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is some childish MGTOW stuff. Not Red Pill worthy

[–]mrmeyhemn60 points61 points  (3 children) | Copy

perhaps she would prefer to "slave over a hot stove" instead of working in an office?

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (2 children) | Copy

Haha. With women, the interval between too much and too little of anything has a width of zero.

[–]mrmeyhemn18 points19 points  (1 child) | Copy

well anything other than paying them to sit on their asses while men do all the work is oppression.

[–]hartke20g19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

But then you're robbing them of their right to work!

[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS36 points37 points  (12 children) | Copy

Slightly off topic, my friend moved to a place where propane for heat had to be delivered by truck which was stupid expensive. His wife had a habit of turning the thermostat to its highest setting if she felt cold, and would never comprehend explanations of how a thermostat works and admonitions to turn it up a few degrees and wait.

So he made a circuit that caused the heater to kick on for a few minutes when the thermostat was moved, but then it reverted to the control of a hidden thermostat his wife didn't know about.

In my own house I had the same problem with basically every GF ever, but I was more obvious about it and put a stop screw at 75.

[–]1independentmale[S] 36 points37 points  (6 children) | Copy

My fucking ex wife would turn the AC way down in the summer, then open the windows when she got too cold. I got a $475 electric bill one July and lost my shit. Our heat pump burned up later that summer... Compressor overheated and seized. Cost me eight grand.

What blew my mind was that no amount of discussion could fix this. She would listen to what I had to say, to my explanations of how this system worked and how much money it cost and so on. She would tell me she understood and would "do better." Then I'd come home from work a week later and lo and behold, AC on full blast and half the windows in the house wide open again. It was as if everything I said to her went in one ear and right the fuck out the other.

[–]NoMoreCuckServative16 points17 points  (2 children) | Copy

Was your ex a literal retard?

Who the fuck opens windows with an AC on?

[–]hirjd6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

In the car. Don't tell me not to do this in the car, asshole.

[–]holytrpbatman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

AC cranked, windows down... Re-re alert..

[–]BetterRedThanRed8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

That attitude is very common and not only with women: "In theory this might be right but this is the real world. Science only applies to school!"

[–]NidStyles6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

She probably ignored you completely.

[–]ToiletIcer1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

My friend had a dumb ass like that

[–]Grompher8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

Stop screw.

Did she figure it out? No ex of mine would have.

[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS20 points21 points  (1 child) | Copy

No, the stop screw was me putting a decisive end to their passive aggressive game of turning up the thermostat to max then denying it or dismissing the cost etc. It was a deliberately obvious oversize screw that went through the cover, backing (not the vitals) and into the wall itself making it tamper resistant as well.

The even better (because it got closer to the underlying problem) solution was not to have girlfriends living at my house.

[–]Grompher11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ha ha. That is the best solution. My girls would have told me "there is a screw sticking out of the thermostat." To which I could have said "it was falling apart, so I rigged it". They would have let it drop at that.

None, not one, knew north from east when taking directions. Standard crap that 8s do not know cause they have a man doing it for them.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Oh my God they're like children

[–]bz102833 points34 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's shit like this that makes people revert to the anger phase.

[–]ironblacksmith31 points32 points  (4 children) | Copy

New "research" based on a sample size of 16 women

I couldn't make it any further..

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (1 child) | Copy

You read it wrong, it meant size 16 women.

[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

LOL, that's what I thought the first time, I had to read that part again to make sure.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Scientific methods are a tool of the patriarchy

[–]DeathDealer80 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Cmon man, don't lie. You know you're absolutely enamored with the war on thermostat temperatures.

[–]Fleetwood_Linux20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

When I was younger, I always got put in the hot, sweaty, manual labor jobs outside. I wanted to work inside in the office, but that was always for the ladies. Inside had no bugs, no backbreaking work, the same or better pay, access to the bosses, and that glorious air conditioning.

Holy shit, if the AC is just a little too cold, maybe consider going to work some of that backbreaking and dangerous work outside. There will be a young man, very happy to take your place.

[–]RealRational20 points21 points  (15 children) | Copy

What do you do if you're too cold?

  1. Put on more clothing
  2. Go get a hot beverage
  3. Do some exercise, stretching, walking, etc...
  4. Get a small space heater for $20

What do you do if you're too hot?

  1. Suffer

[–]tallwheel4 points5 points  (9 children) | Copy

To be fair, you could also put an electric fan on your desk like I have.

[–]RealRational3 points4 points  (8 children) | Copy

That doesn't actually lower the temperature though. So the actual temperature still has to be pretty close to where you're comfortable.

As a walking furnace I can personally attest that fans don't work :)

Hell, if I have a temperature of 98.6 I have a fever. Multiple docs that I've had over the years say my "normal" temp is near 96.

[–]LuvBeer2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

[–]ToiletIcer1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Same I have to keep my house at 65

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I don't know why you're being downvoted. If it's fucking hot, a fan doesn't do as much as putting clothes when you're cold. We are warm-blooded, it is easier for us to get warm, than it is for us to cool down. Simple fucking shit.

[–]RealRational1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

There's dumb people in every sub. Most people don't understand physics even if they take it.

[–]tallwheel1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Nobody said that fans actually lower the temperature. I wouldn't say they 'don't work', however.

[–]RealRational0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I didn't say they can't work, I said they don't work. (the obviously implied: "for me" shouldn't need to be stated.)

[–]hirjd1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Actually they are useful. Ask the billion Asians who love fans.

[–]skoobled0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This. Our office is crazy hot lately and almost nothing we can do. I think WFH is probably due

[–]unknown_host0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Space heaters in an office nope. That shit is a hazard

[–]RealRational0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Every office I ever worked in had em. Normally with the more petite girls, and a few older guys. I live in the good ol USA.

[–]Tarnsman4Life1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That sums up my office, thinner girls have heaters, fatter ones have sweaters.

[–]unknown_host0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Also in the US we got them banned straight away. We moved into a new building and after days of resetting breakers we were able to get rid of them.

[–]Acx3 22 points22 points [recovered] | Copy

Once again, Feminism has proven that there is no glass ceiling when it comes to reaching the upper limits of mental retardation; that even the natural confines of average intelligence quotient can be overcome through hard work and dedicated cognitive sacrifice.

[–]OmegaParticle1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Only two things in existence are infinite: the universe, and the stupidity of feminists, and I'm not sure about the universe.

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In 2 years there will be articles complaining about...no more like: right now there is an article about 4 degrees of the thermostat. This should be the wake up call.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You mean glass floor... retardation is something that's a downward direction not upward.

[–]1cover2039 points40 points  (10 children) | Copy

She wants women to be able to cocktease better.

Fuck her.

[–]hartke20g38 points39 points  (9 children) | Copy

  1. "It's too cold to wear my office-inappropriate low-cut, backless mini dress"

  2. wearing said mini dress "Ugh all my coworkers are creepers, their glances are making me uncomfortable and they're complimenting my style sexually harassing me"

  3. "I'm gonna wear a sweater over my inappropriate clothing to shield my body from their sexist eyes. Oh hey, this thing is nice and warm..."

[–]tallwheel8 points9 points  (8 children) | Copy

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (5 children) | Copy

Sent home? It says he asked her if she could run home and change unless it would be too much of a bother. And then she quit. Two whole weeks and she quit, real hard worker there.

And seriously, pants and shirts are sexist?

[–]tallwheel18 points19 points  (4 children) | Copy

Apparently J.C. Penney has the exact same "no shorts" dress code for both men and women, and somehow the dress code is 'sexist against women'. You can't make this shit up.

EDIT: J.C. Penney does deserve some blame, though, for putting those clothes in the "career" section.

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Ikr? Every single department store Ive ever seen has the same dress code. Khakis and a collared tshirt the same color as the companys logo. Maybe shirt and tie if youre a supervisor.

Why? She wore a "career" clothing to a minimum wage, department store job. Thats not a career.

[–]hartke20g2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Honestly though, all it would've taken to avoid that whole debacle is reading the employee handbook if you're really not sure if short shorts are professional or not. Hell, just ask yourself "have I ever seen someone who isn't a lifeguard wearing short shorts on the job?"

And trusting the department markers about what is "career" clothing and what isn't is pretty dumb in itself. I've seen parkas in the "summer" wear section of stores- stores in south Florida.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes it's JC Penny's fault! Don't they women are children and can't pick out their own clothes?

[–]Lt_Muffintoes5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

"They didn't show anything other than my legs, which I don't think is too provocative."

Solipsism dialled up to 11

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sure, if you're looking for a career serving hot dogs on sticks along with delicious lemonade!

[–]1sardinemanR17 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yeah, like men WANT to wear stuffy shirts and suits.

No office I've been in enforces the dress code on women. So either you get rid of the dress code for men or at least you put in some goddamn A/C, especially in the summer.

But my solution is even more sensible: either kick women out of the workplace again or at least segregate them. Mixed workforces have been an unmitigated disaster.

I've run a small business before, and women are the absolute worst workers I've ever seen and cause ridiculous office drama where there doesn't need to be any. At least one week out of every month they are even more inept than they usually are. If you have several female employees they can be awful all month long. It is funny in a way.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

So glad engineering is still a male dominated field.

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (0 children) | Copy

See now this is why this girl is stupid.

If she went to her boss with the suggestion, "why don't use less AC and see if we can save some money on power without losing work productivity" she might have gotten her way, a slightly warmer workplace.

Instead she had to frame it as, "turn up the thermostat otherwise you are a woman hater" and turn the whole thing into a big deal where the boss is now damned if you do damned if you don't.

[–]rockinhard13013 points14 points  (2 children) | Copy

Go home feminists, you're drunk.

[–]1sardinemanR4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

This isn't feminists, this is all women. Feminism just took the cuffs off women. Now they get to verbalize and act out every idiotic idea that pops into their heads, regardless of consequences. For men this would be known as Autistic. For women however, it is considered "empowering."

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

No this is how they always are. They will complain about a piece of lint on your shirt representing patriarchy in about 1 year.

[–]cx29514 points15 points  (3 children) | Copy

Standards for comfort in the working environment are set by ASHRAE Standard 55 and are very dependant on relative humidity. The numbers and models might have been developed in the 60s but the standard was updated in 2013. In fact, just looking at wikipedia page for thermal comfort gives 4 different models so this stuff runs pretty deep and gets quite complex. This is an entire field in academics that starts at the master's level in mechanical engineering but I doubt our intrepid author wants to go that deep. Better to just insist that my collection of 16 people's opinions overturns this entire field and all the research that they have worked hard doing.

[–]hirjd3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Actually one person's opinion would. Can't believe there is such research. I spent one month in vietnam either outside or in rooms without AC and couldn't stand a room temp less than 80F when I got back. When I had AC to sleep I'd set 25C, put on ALL the covers, and turn on a fan. Seemed like a nice combo. And I'm a Minnesota boy who thought 90F was hotter than hell. I'd wear shorts and and t-shirt as soon as snow started melting in the sun. It's acclimation.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Vietnam vets told me that. They said they'd wear combat jackets when it was 75 outside.

[–]dromoney2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This comment should be higher. ASHRAE figured out the range of temperatures and relative humidities that most people are comfortable with inside an office. If you are in a related field I recommend checking out your local ASHRAE chapter and going to a meeting or two. Great networking opportunities and usually an interesting tour and speaker at the meetings.

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy

If it is literally too cold they can take up the job of trash collector. Here in Texas it reaches a nice 90-100+ degrees in the summer!

Some how women won't be clamoring for 50/50 equality in that profession

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW1610 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't believe it. I worked in 2 companies that were 99% women. They always bitched and moaned when the temp was above 72 and made a point of asking around to see who changed the temperature. A witch hunt over the thermostat! LOL. There is always some older woman getting hot flashes. They hate nothing more than to sweat.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

Just told my dad about this and he told me they had this same drama in the 80's at his workplace. They solved it by rigging the thermometers to show 3 degrees more than the actual temperature was and all the women were happy with how warm it was after that. The lesson of the story is quite obvious

[–]Hennez1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's just gold. That's how you solve things with them. Make them believe they got what they wanted.

[–]trp_angry_dwarf6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

This popped up on the Australian news website I read this morning. In the Aussie version they also managed to wedge in the whole 77% pay garbage and it was much more aggressively written. I was going to post it but you've already done the heavy lifting.

All the comments on the article were predictably boring.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

"Adjust cooling levels to account for women's comfort" and "dramatically slash energy consumption" while you're at it.

Assuming you're cooling and not heating. For much of the year in much of the world, this would mean more heating rather than less cooling, for a net increase in energy consumption.

You'd think women would want it cooler so they can put more clothes on and escape all this workplace sexual harassment I hear so much about. From women.

I'd be fine with a higher temperature, so long as I can take my shirt off.

[–]TheRealMewt3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Having been to Iraq and lived in Europe, air conditioning isn't nearly as widespread as it is in the US. You learn to dress for your environment and stay hydrated if you're overheated.

These girls wouldn't last two days outside the US.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Are you suggesting that this is a first world problem and these women don't suffer at the hands of the thermostat patriarchy?

[–]1thiasus8 points9 points  (6 children) | Copy

According to the author of this article

I gotta ask though: why are you giving a fuck about this? it's another lazy talentless hack trying to score point with the easily outraged and the campaign-happy slacktivists who will get behind a "raise the temps" pseudomovement. Something like this comes out pretty much every hour.

Also, google the author's face. She couldn't get more stereotypical "professional bitchy lesbian turbofeminist" if she died her hair pink. It's another cunt trying to cash in on social media feminism, let's just ignore her.

[–]RealRational4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

This is how to handle shit tests. Which as people point out every single time something like this is posted, is all this is.

[–]unassumingusername74 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

TRP fails the shit test every time.

Funny how that works.

[–]RealRational1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Or sad?

Depends on if you have the attitude of a winner or a loser. It's either sad or sad to the point of funny. Like things children say with total sincerity.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

So if this bitch was doing this at my office I'm supposed to just ignore her until she finally gets the AC turned up and I have to sweat my ass off?

[–]RealRational2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You have missed the point of my comment.

[–]csehszlovakze0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Have you forgotten manspreading already?

[–]Hamilton950B8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy

She has confused the US with Canada. Canada recommends 69-73°F, the US recommends 68-76.

Also, "literally freezing" would mean a temperature quite a bit below 32°F. Maybe somewhat pedantic, but "literally" is a good word with no good substitute and I hate to see it lose its meaning.

[–]Mattpilf8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Too late, dictionary already relaxed the use of literally. That fight is over. We lost.

Also I think the expression freezing to death for hypothermia, even in say 40 F gives this use of literally a bit more tooth, as supposed to the much more figurative use of freezing that could be used.

In addition your definition is only legitimate for freezing water(while the most common use) , but something can be cold enough, say to freeze metal, or fats, or a variety of other substances, hence any cold temperatures might be a literal sense of freezing something else. A technicality, but still true, it's lirerally freezing something.

[–]csehszlovakze3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

The word "literally" in this case is a "white girl filler word" and nothing else.

[–]Lt_Muffintoes0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I got a vivid image of the guys from Mad Men stuffing a bunch of secretaries into a commercial walk in freezer while laughing maniacally

[–]1favours_of_the_moon3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

They have to come up with something new and unique in order to really get ATTENTION.

[–]malthuswaswrong4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

For the love of god please stop giving this idea any attention whatsoever. I work for a dumb hippy feminist cunt and if she sees this she's going to start running the heater in August.

[–]The_Man113 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

"Put on a fucking sweater!"


[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Everyone is more alert and efficient in a cooler temperature. If you're too cold, put on a sweater.

Paid for by the committee to elect wolfraisedbysheep for President.

[–]1Claude_Reborn6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

Actually it's more than likely the fat females in the office who are responsible for it being colder than Hillary's twat in there.

Every office has a fatty, who insists on it being super cold because they are covered in mounds of fat.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

Have you ever worked in an office? Its always a constant struggle between the men wanting it cooler and the women wanting it warmer. My advice to the women if the office, maybe if you actually wore enough clothing to fit into the dress clothes policy you wouldn't be so cold all the time.

[–]1Claude_Reborn5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Offices I have worked in, always had at least 1 fat ham who always complained the aircon wasn't cold enough.

I mostly avoided the issue, because my system was usually linked to the Server room, so separate thermostat

[–]ForensicFungineer2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Half the women in my office bitch about the environment while running a space heater full bore for 10 months out of the year at their desks. It got so bad that our parent company actually had to ban them because they had almost doubled our electrical costs.

They're almost all in the over-40 set, I have no idea if that has anything to do with their incessant bitching about the temperature.

[–]smokeybehr1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Space heaters under desks have been the cause of more tripped breakers and fires than many of us would care to count. Just after I started dating my wife, her office had a massive fire, which was traced back to a space heater under a desk left running overnight.

[–]Tarnsman4Life1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Holy shit this, half of our front office girls use space heaters year round. The other half always have sweaters on.

[–]Doctor_Mayhem2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Jesus fucking Christ... This whole thing just REEKS of First World Problems.

Seeing shit like this is making me, more and more, open to the idea of Sharia Law.

[–]PEE_ON_MY_CHEST2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I do commercial hvac for a living. No such thing as a comfortable temperature for a woman. I find the placebo works best. Just say I made whatever adjustment and they are validated in thinking they used their power to solve it. Seriously, complaining woman make up for 30-40% of my work load.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

lmao I think you just solved it. Let's get a display that now says 77 on all thermostats. They'll all shut up when they think a woman changed something or some such shit.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

This is true where I work, but that has more to do with being an old building with uneven AC. It can easily be 75 degrees in the main office spaces and 55 in some of the conference rooms.

The irony here is that the HR department is always the first to bail en masse when the AC hiccups and the mercury hits 80.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

the HR department is always the first to bail

And no productivity was lost that day

[–]throwaway_holla1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I am quite sure she or the editor meant "Men are figuratively freezing women out of the workplace." Unless there is actual freezing involved.

[–]Brewjo1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yup, we call it Operation: Glass Cutter.

A sneaky plot to find the hardest pokey nipples in the office.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lol reminds me of the Family Guy 50's cutaway:

It's shame, she had not-so-pointy boobs puts resume in useless pile

[–]garlicextract1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

This puts a further nail in the coffin of the Wage Gap Myth. Unless some feminist can explain why a for-profit corporation would employ any men at all, when they could just employ all women instead, save 33% of salary expenses, and spend less on AC/HVAC.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

And another nail: women have the time to complain about this shit, further demonstrating their uselessness

[–]mikesteane1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Get warm by working harder.

[–]TheGravyGuy1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well women aren't forced to wear fucking tie, suit and jacket are they? They waltz in wearing whatever they want each day. Goddamn female manager walked in yesterday wearing jeans, which are supposed to be prohibited.

I'm glad my female co - workers aren't massive fucktards when it comes to "feminists" like these. They just put a coat on when it's too cold. You know, like anyone with the ability to think outside a hive mind will do.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Y'know that stove in the kitchen will keep the ladies plenty warm.... ;)

[–]TheRealMouseRat1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Actually if you look at the biology women have more body fat which is a great insulator, which means that women on average can be comfortable in lower temperatures than men.

However, if you walk around a lot, stressing, working hard, your body temperature will rise. But if you sit still doing close to nothing you will create much less heat. So how hard you work, and what clothes you wear affect how comfortable you feel in a current room temperature.

I prefer higher temperatures myself, and consider 23 Celsius (73.4 fahrenheit) to be the perfect indoor temperature, so I can wear just a tshirt. However, in most government and office buildings they keep it lower than that. 20-21 celsius (68-69 fahrenheit) is common. In my country it is to save money on heating though, and it is a factor that people get more lazy in warmer temperatures.

[–]merkmerk731 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

One thing to realize is that you're better off with people being chilly than hot

People who feel too hot are far more irritable and there's nothing you can do about it. If my office is almost 80 degrees I'm miserable and sweaty and disrobing isn't an option.

If my office is 55 degrees I wear a jacket and I'm fine.

[–]1Snivellious[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

And this woman is (metaphorically) freezing herself out of the office by writing a thousand words on thermostat temperatures instead of developing a useful fucking skill. I guess it all works out in the end.

[–]DuncanMonroe1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wow. That's all I can say. This reads like an extreme parody of feminism.

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[–]Mattpilf1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy

You aren't wrong. My electricity heated and cooled apartment. Even with a shit AC unit, making it 72 in the summer and 66 in the winter, it took about 3 times the energy to heat the place. Scientifically, it's caused because and AC moves heat out of the room to outside and thus can actually operate at above 1000% (yeah)efficiency. A heater just takes electricity or gas into heat, lower efficiency. (50%?)

Any place north of the Mason Dixon line probably has this issue, although if you live in the deep south, this could be the opposite since with rarely cold.

[–]TRPn00b2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

I'm gonna be that guy for a second and let you know that an electric heater is 100% efficient, because literally all of the electricity used gets turned into heat.

[–]Mattpilf0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Well this is technically true for any appliance in your house. Even your television and lightbulbs, but that's not really important. You are forgeting how energy reaches your house. That's the real measure of efficiency, and since so much is lost getting to your house and making the power plant, versus say having gas delivered to your house. There's a lot of inneficienies when trying to get energy into heating your house, it would be absurd to ignore them, since they are built into the cost.

[–]TRPn00b1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Sure, there's losses at the generating stage and transport, but that's true of the electricity you cool the place with as well. 100% of the kilowatts you're paying for get used to heat the place, anyway.

I'm not too keen on the explanation of how the air conditioner works though. Part of the reason the heat bill is higher probably has to do with temperature gradient depending on where you live. If it's 90 out and you're cooling to 72, that's an 18 degree difference, so only an 18 degree gradient trying to get through your insulation. If it's 32 out and you're heating to 66, that's a 34 degree difference.

[–]Mattpilf0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

100% of the kilowatts you're paying for get used to heat the place.

No. You are paying for the waste in each unit of kilowatt too. yWhile it's proportional increase, the electric companies don't run a loss. You pay for it in you per kilowatt rate.

If it's 90 out and you're cooling to 72, that's an 18 degree difference, so only an 18 degree gradient trying to get through your insulation. If it's 32 out and you're heating to 66, that's a 34 degree difference.

Yeah, that's part of it, but honestly If I just did heating and cooling cost the number would be probably 5 times the cost, well over the temperature difference or more(still need to pay for hot water and stuff so it's hard to know.

anyways if you still doubt


I guess the technical term is Coefficeint of perfromacne. Long story short AC are more efficient because they move energy, instead of changing energy.

[–]NidStyles1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Tell that to my electric bill during the summer.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

No it has to do with the difference in temperature between hot days and cold days. I'm not sure where you get the idea that an AC unit has 1000% efficiency. That's physically impossible. If that were true, you could power your house from your AC unit because the temperature gradient it produces would give you more energy than it took to create. Also, many places use a heat pump which is basically an air conditioner run in reverse. It heats the inside and cools the outside.

[–]Mattpilf0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy


While their numbers were more like 400% and the technical term is coeficient of performance, I was off by a factor of 2.5. Anyways it's way more effiecent that heating.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

CoP is very different from efficiency. You can't directly compare the two.

[–]Mattpilf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Very different? meh... not really. Efficieny is reasonably defined as(technical definition google gave me)

"the ratio of the useful work performed by a machine or in a process to the total energy expended or heat taken in."

while CoP is heat supplied/removed(useful work) over is the work consumed by the heat pump(total energy expended).

While the difenition of "Thermal efficiency" is well defined and different from CoP, CoP does meet a technical definiton for efficiency. So it's a measure of efficiency, just not "thermal efficiency"

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

This is due to Newton's law of cooling. The rate of flow of heat is proportional to the difference in temperature. Let's say the office is temperature controlled to 70F to make things easy. During the summer, it might be 80F outside. 80-70=10. During the winter, it might be 20F outside. 70-20=50. In this example, you lose heat five times as fast on the cold day as you gain heat on the hot day.

[–]jaredschaffer271 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

A sample size of 16 women? If you live in any decent sized city in the country, you could triple that sample size in a half hour by just hanging around outside and asking chicks questions.

[–]narazz0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Honestly i dont think it relates to men or women lol. i work min wage but i work out in 90-100 degree temps. 1st thing a women does when she comes outside is say it's too hot out there but im use to it! i will admit though i pretty much leave a window open in my room during the winter time. house gets too hot. :)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This was the most out of place comment I've ever seen on here

[–]awyden0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I keep my house at 72. My wife is a sahm. I'd gladly turn it up to 77 but she (and the kids) gets too hot. Does that make her a man?

[–]cascadecombo0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Because mens suits are so cool and refreshing to wear.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Mine is lined with a material invented by NASA for astronaut suits - doesn't matter the environment temperature I'm always at a cool perfect 72F.

[–]beginner_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

They should move to Europe. Most buildings do not have AC. So it will be hot in them in Summer. But else I somewhat agree. Cooling down to 70 when it's 90 outside is a waste of energy. 77 (eg. 25 °C) is perfectly fine temperature when it's 90 outside. This should work in most office environments in which you aren't limited by a dress code. If men have to wear suits and women dresses, then one could see that this is a problem.

In fact I find it amazing that this has not been identified as an area were companies can save a ton of money. Less cooling. Power really seems to be dirt cheap in US.

In contrast in Winter 70 seems ok. You are wearing a sweater anyway when it below freezing outside...And saves energy and money.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

They won't drag you out if you're hot in a speedo.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Hello, I'm a 1970s feminist transported to the modern time... And what is this article about?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There are mandatory quotas for women in all government jobs, as well as in private jobs quotas exist. There are more women in college than men, as well as scholarships in jobs where women are a minority (but none in which women are a majority of course).

Women receive half the jail time for the same exact crimes, women are outearning young men in nearly all jobs. If there is a domestic dispute, the man goes to jail no matter what, unless he is within in a inch of his life. Women can claim their husband abused them after murdering him, despite the massive spending on women's shelters. Women's diseases get millions more in funding than men's diseases, and women live longer than average on men. And that's not even the half of it. Women are still as useless as ever, men just gave in to everything they said, and continue to do so.

This article is still somehow claiming women are being kept out of the workplace, despite all of the above, but by keeping the thermostat colder...and yes humans are still warm blooded creatures.

[–]N_the_U0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I work shift work and have let all my co-workers (male and female) know that I own the thermostat while I'm on shift and it will be permanently set to 68 degrees all year long. I was challenged for thermostat-ownership once, during winter, and just opened my office window and left the door open. The challenger relented and bought himself a sweater vest and a space heater.

[–]TurgidMeatWand0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This study can't be right, any job I had were women put themselves in charge of the thermostat, it was always too damn cold, because they were obese or alcoholics sweating it out.

[–]BetterRedThanRed0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The problem with my office is that they do not adjust the temperature between summer and winter. It is always about 70 degrees. If it is 100 degrees outside in the summer, I freeze at 70 degrees. And the AC consumes an insane amount of energy. I would be okay with 77 degrees in the summer.

[–]drallcom30 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Just stop wearing deodorant then.

[–]neptronix0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Women have a ~25% lower metabolic rate than men and typically have less thermal mass to buffer temperature changes, since they're smaller and shorter. I don't blame them for complaining about it.

As for me, i went from 270lbs to 185lbs in a year and noticed that i am way more sensitive to the cold. I live with 2 women and set the thermostat to 75 degrees as a compromise.

These problems are easily solved and do not require drama fits to figure out.

[–]RPthrowaway1230 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I saw this reported on by some serious news outlets...how utterly pathetic.

[–]Diabolical_Nuke0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So, she's admitting that men are better at something (staying warm).

Fucking misogynist bitch

[–]FrameWalker0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I for one support raising the temperature as our reptilian overlords suggest. The increased temperature of the room working in tandem with underwear heat packets should inhibit sperm production and Gene hijacking. A little discomfort for long term wellbeing.

[–]call_of_doge0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The epitome of 3rd world problems

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Meanwhile men get cooked during the winter when they crank up all the heaters. I say we make a deal with women. We will set the temp halfway between those numbers. In the summer, women can put on a light sweater to keep warm. In winter, men can strip naked and jiggle their balls around in the open air so they don't get too sweaty.

Compromise, right?

[–]IronMeltsinmyHands0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

How does this stupidity survive bullying? Jeez...

[–]IronMeltsinmyHands0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The author of some bitch with a bull dyke haircut. Of course. It all makes sense.

[–]myschadenfreude0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Imagine working in a bank and being in a suite in a 77 degree office.

Put some clothes on, ladies.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Anyone whose worked in an office will tell you that women complain about temperatures all the time. However, women have much greater options in their wardrobe and are solely responsible for being comfortable. To blame this on men or anyone else is pathetic, albeit not surprising

[–]my_redpill_account0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

AC couldn't be about the computers and other electrical equipment that give off heat that need to be cool to last long and work efficiently.

I mean that's just one of the many factors. They just came up with another thing to blame men for.

You go to work to work. Not be comfortable, or wear a cute summer dress. What about the men who wear suits in this weather, or all year round?

Bring a sweater or something to keep warm.

Man these women are so dumb. There are women getting stoned to death and they're worried about who is controlling the thermostat. Glad they're making themselves look so stupid.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

My mother always said "If that is your biggest problem, You should be happy"

Where my Grand Mother would say "Stop complaining and do something useful. Take the rifle and go and get dinner"

And my Father "Son, you seem to assume I care about your piss ant problems. Now fuck off and so something constructive"

And my Grand Father would just mutter "Pussy" and walk off in disgust.

Ultimately, these bitches (Not in the sense of just women, but pussy men) shouldn't get such a complaint looked into. Take what strategy you want. I am sticking with my Grand Fathers approach.


[–]Stythe0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I was laughing while reading this. I kind of think the more of this crap that gets pumped out the more people are going to start ignoring it. It's TOO ridiculous.

[–]Cappaleti0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is just another dumb fucking story to feed the men vs. women narrative.

Everyone has their own version of what's comfortable. I'm sure some men like it warmer than 69 degrees in the office. I know I do.

[–]RP_Vergil0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's all about the entitlement for the Female Feelz!


Everything oppressing them is Evil plot against all whom possess a Vagina. Even if you have a paper tray which will cause her to bend too low for her comfort because she is wearing unrealistic heels for after friday party.

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[–]seiken2870 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The temperature adjustments in office buildings are more of an architectural/engineering issue than simply turning a themostat...

If the air handler is close by you, you're going to have a bad time.

[–]xamaru0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Just saw this exact topic on TF1, the french mainstream channel ! Conclusion was : "according to specialists, women are right because they want to use less energy on AC"...

[–]1RPAlternate420 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You know what would warm her up a bit.


[–]19thcenturywhiteman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I was just thinking about this article when you posted it. One of the "researchers" even said that part of the reason is men wear suits and ties. and women show cleavage. So maybe women should wear the same amount of clothing as men??? But no that's slut shaming.

[–]Dr_HoaxArthurWilmoth-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

wear more clothes to work or wear pantyhose and bring a sweater.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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