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I guess my main event is going to be today.

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March 6, 2020

I'm using my one victim puke here.

This morning I made the apparently unforgivable mistake of waking my wife up with the hair dryer and shutting the front door too loud.

That led to this little conversation.

For clarification, her "sickness" is just a cold. Her "exhaustion" is because she stayed up until midnight watching TV, and her "early wake up" was at 8 am. Standard shit test making a huge deal out of things.

I'm going to go have a couple beers with my boss, go home, and get the house in order for my parents coming over tomorrow. She definitely won't clean in this kind of mindset.

Honestly my wife seems so wound up it looks like she might actually petition for divorce. That's fine if she does, I'm not about to roll over and whine for her.

For the guys out there who have had their main event, I would appreciate a little feedback as to how this goes. Is it just a standard shit test, but bigger? Should I record the conversation in case she tries to pull a DV lie on me? Is it appropriate to provide comfort at any point during this, or do I just keep doing my own thing while she loses her mind?

See you guys on the other side.

Edit: I guess she has the papers for me to sign. I'll make her formally serve me, and then lawyer up if she does.

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Title I guess my main event is going to be today.
Author Balls_Wellington_
Upvotes 45
Comments 154
Date 06 March 2020 05:04 PM UTC (9 months ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/352691
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/feghbw/i_guess_my_main_event_is_going_to_be_today/
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domestic violenceshit test

[–]RStonePT[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children) | Copy

k, you've squeezed all the sympathy out of your victim puke.

Consider this your 'get to work' notification

[–]JudgeDoom6922 points23 points  (18 children) | Copy

Stay the course. Hold your frame. Maintain 100% outcome independence.

Your relationship is about to reset. Either with you in it or not, but there's no going back from here.

[–]Balls_Wellington_Main Event + Coronavirus[S] 11 points12 points  (17 children) | Copy

I knew this would happen eventually.

It's probably going to be the end of our relationship. Wife is stubborn as hell, she'd cut off her nose to spite her face. I wish I'd had more time to implement dread and really increase my value, but it is what it is.

[–]FoxShitNasty8326 points27 points  (14 children) | Copy

Don't turn this into a big thing. It's just a silly little girl having a drama.

"Love isn't English" save that for her Christmas card :)

[–]A-Merks-ican14 points15 points  (6 children) | Copy

Seriously it's like if your toddler throws a fit do you put them up for adoption? Of course not.

[–]Balls_Wellington_Main Event + Coronavirus[S] 11 points12 points  (5 children) | Copy

Try telling that to my son, hope his new family loves him

[–]AnyHead6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

This divorce case number? You mean that silly little thing?

Plenty big of a deal for me. I’d be asking where to sign and making sure she filled out all the fields correctly, since she’s prone to typos.

[–]Balls_Wellington_Main Event + Coronavirus[S] 5 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy

Yeah, you're right. I've probably over hyped myself on what the main event will be like. Just another day.

[–]hack3geRed Beret15 points16 points  (3 children) | Copy

My wife threatened divorce - I told her to hold on a second, went to the front door took a picture of it, sat down and texted it to her and said you know where that is.

Women are capable of crazy amounts of drama especially if they are not used to a man with boundaries who is dead set on getting what they want.

It sounds like a main event but could also be a nuclear shit test - I got quite a few of those before I got the actual event - stay the course you know what you want in life I assume. If she’s blowing snot bubbles it’s time for you to outline your vision for what you want in life otherwise treat it like a shit test.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

could also be a nuclear shit test - I got quite a few of those before I got the actual event

I agree, probably just a nuclear shit test. Waaaay too much shitty comfort here and not enough plain comfort testing.

[–]Balls_Wellington_Main Event + Coronavirus[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I mean just got called crying, saying "why are you doing this, do you not love me anymore, what is wrong with you, etc" so...maybe?

Phone call wasn't much better than texting. I need to do this in person.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Unless you hear these near specific words accompanied by snot bubbles, it is not the main event:

"What can I do to fit into your life, I will do anything."

It will be complete submission to your frame. Then you lay out your vision. Once and only once.

Until then STFU and pass comfort tests if you want to.

Time is on your side here.

[–]mabden13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

My wife threatened divorce once. I told she is free to do what she feels she has to, then STFU. Went about my business as a father and a man, ignoring her for the rest of the week. By Saturday, she was pulling me into the bedroom, pulling my pants off and swallowed. Pussy was wetter than in a long time. No more talk about divorce.

[–]Tyred_Biggums8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

I wish I'd had more time to implement dread and really increase my value, but it is what it is.

Sure - but you don't. So how are you going to treat this?

There are a lot of parallels here. Big important question for you right now: Do you like your wife as a person?

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

This. So much this. Do you like her? I don’t care if it’s comfortable most of the time, or if your afraid of being alone, finances, worried about the kids, or anything else. Do you like this person?

[–]Slapeeey21 points22 points  (3 children) | Copy

That's a hell of a text chain. The worst I have ever seen. Hope it works out for you

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Worst = hilarious.

[–]Balls_Wellington_Main Event + Coronavirus[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

It will. Either way is fine with me.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, keep telling yourself that.

[–]Blarg_RisenRed Beret20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dude. Just....dude. I want to tell you, because you are one of the many cases of Stockholm syndrome sufferers on this sub. Normal people do not talk to each other like this. Normal relationships are not like this. Not even close. Not even 20% of this. This is not AWALT. Your wife is a bitch in the fullest sense.


What I advise is forget even participating in a main event. Just go file. Seriously. Get out. I feel like this is like when women post on /r/marriage about being abused and everyone is saying get to safety, get out. Thats you. If you even have a notion of staying in this relationship for any reason, then what follows is all your fault. This is just toxic toxic toxic.

[–]Tyred_Biggums14 points15 points  (3 children) | Copy

Aww, that was cute. Wait until she starts emailing friends and family about your 'abuse' and pulls the DV card.

See a lawyer - be prepared.

[–]BootySlayer9114 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Exactly what happened to me, haven't seen my kids since November since spanking their behind with my hand means I'm a violent danger to their development. All I really am is a faggot.

[–]BarracudaRP1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Damn. I wasn't allowed contact for 90 days, but I put my fist through a wall.

We all learn and move forward. This sucks, hang in there. Consider writing an OYS if you haven't, for your benefit and for ours.

[–]Tyred_Biggums3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don’t hit your kids. Epic frame loss when you resort to that.

[–]SubjectiveCompass13 points14 points  (11 children) | Copy

"You're not being a rock"

What did you say to her that prompted her to throw this little jab?

[–]redirectedfs11 points12 points  (3 children) | Copy

This is EXACTLY why we don't talk about fight club.

NVM confused rock for oak.

[–]part_wolf15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy

Rock is woman speak for “I can’t be accountable for my emotions so you have to maintain control of yours!”

[–]redirectedfs6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Damn wolf, I didn't know you spoke woman. How about this one "I don't want this anymore. Love isn't English". Might be able to help out OP.

[–]Balls_Wellington_Main Event + Coronavirus[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

No, that's not me teaching her RP verbiage here. That's my wife's own words from a previous fight being brought back up. I'm not dumb enough to tell her anything about my journey here.

[–]Balls_Wellington_Main Event + Coronavirus[S] 5 points6 points  (6 children) | Copy

She's mad that I'm not picking up my phone or responding to her texts.

In a previous fight she mentioned that I was her emotional rock early in our relationship, and I expressed a desire to be that same source of stability and strength for our family.

Since she knows that is something important to me, she is hoping that she can get an emotional response by saying that.

[–]SubjectiveCompass4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy

I see. Generally best course of action is to continue to STFU if you're early on in making yourself better. Playing into her frame and acting like everything is a comfort test will just kick the event down the road a bit. You need to decide whether or not you are comfortable with the "worst case scenario" of her actually going through with divorce proceedings.

Blow ups like this are often high energy tests to see if you really are enforcing a frame, super evident by the language she chooses. She is literally attacking the "rock" status your weak frame is feigning. I wouldn't give any ground here, if anything text less than you are. Don't be reactionary, she should react to you.

[–]Balls_Wellington_Main Event + Coronavirus[S] 6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy

I'm not sending another text today. She knows what the plan is.

I'm tempted to skip beers just because I'm a little excited to get on with the main event, but I think it could also be counterproductive. If she gets the idea that I'm scared of the divorce or submitting to her tantrum I'm just going to end up kicking the can down the road.

[–]hack3geRed Beret16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

Do not change your plans whatsoever - my wife found out I had a lawyer and papers and told me I better be home to talk and I had plans - she stole my keys and my shoes and I walked down to my buddies, borrowed shoes and still went out.

Look at it this way - if she files what’s that really mean? It means you don’t end up in a relationship with someone who doesn’t want to be with you? Seems pretty healthy to me - why would you want to be with someone that doesn’t want to be with you?

[–]A-Merks-ican9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

I would not recommend skipping beers with your boss just because she's throwing a fit.

[–]NightFire458 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is all from this MORNING? Damn that's a lot of drama.

Back to the issue at hand. Those messages are so disrespectful I don't know how you made it this far in the relationship. She clearly has zero respect for you.

[–]JoeAccidental2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't get too drunk going into a main event situation, you will need a clear head to STFU and not be drawn in, stand strong. Worth considering kicking the Main Event can down the road until your SMV is higher and the 1000 ft rope tightens. For me, the main event never really happened (yet), she stopped shit testing me as much and sex massively improved in quality and frequency. As I got stronger and more OI, she got more feminine, creative and generally nicer to be around. It's never over though, the mission to improve myself is my focus, everyone else is one of my passengers.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret23 points24 points  (13 children) | Copy

Man, lol. I'm having flashbacks over here and all I can do is laugh.

Get ready to step in the ring for the largest battle of all: Her hamster vs. Your frame.

Frame is everything. Lots of shitty comfort testing in here.

[–]Balls_Wellington_Main Event + Coronavirus[S] 19 points20 points  (11 children) | Copy

Want to laugh harder? Like really laugh?

We just found out she was potentially exposed to coronavirus at her work and have to quarantine for two weeks.

Fuck me.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret14 points15 points  (10 children) | Copy

OP delivers.

Jesus fuck I'm rolling bro. Rolling. My fucking sides.

Verify this with her work. Otherwise this is some real next level hamster.

[–]Balls_Wellington_Main Event + Coronavirus[S] 6 points7 points  (9 children) | Copy

This is real. She told me about her patients on her first day, and next thing you know one with that exact description in that neighborhood is all over the damned news.

I also overheard the call she got telling her to come in and get swabbed immediately. She's there now, sent me a picture of everyone in masks setting up the isolation room.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy

Well, good luck. This is hilarious. Pass those comfort tests if you want... or die trying.

Damn, I love MRP.

[–]Balls_Wellington_Main Event + Coronavirus[S] 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'm just laughing at this point. Shit tests may be an uncomfortably literal reality soon.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Gives a whole new meaning to the term bro. Best of luck passing them. In reality this is a great opportunity to lead that's fallen into your lap. Everything can be used to your advantage here.

Maybe run around asking are you threatening me? Lead. Have fun.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Post a update in OYS next Tuesday.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

What a fucking joke. The coronavirus is basically a lite version of the flu with a very slightly higher mortality rate. You don't see isolation rooms being set up every time someone comes down with the flu.

The hysteria that's been created around it is far more dangerous than the virus itself.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

5% death rate in the us right now. Most of it is because they aren’t getting tested in time before pneumonia Sets in. As long as it’s detected early it seems to be easy to control.

[–]RStonePT3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Unless you're 80 years old your chances are still <1%

Remember what you did during SARS or Zika virus? Do the same thing here because it's the same thing

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

5% death rate of those infected.

Number of people affected, 300.

Number of people in America, 372 million.

Total fucking hysteria.

[–]FoxShitNasty830 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


[–]AlohaMaui8085 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Am I wrong, or is this not a main event?

It sounds a lot more like a combination of her lack of respect for him/his lack of enforced boundaries/Frame, and his own inability to STFU.

I really don't see much in here about her asking directly or even indirectly where she belongs in his life.

She's just being shitty and he isn't passing, he just keeps responding.

I don't get how this is a main event.

[–]odysseysredDavid Koresh trying MRP19 points20 points  (7 children) | Copy

I second that. I have text chains saved as a reminder of this. I left with very little notice to go hunting and my wife was pissed. She's texting me all kinds if crazy shit about moving out and not caring about her etc. I completely ignore all texts and calls. By the end of day 1 she was sending me nudes and begging for my cock. It's just another form if shit testing and if you can't game you better stfu. When you respond unless you're gaming you're just chumming the water.

[–]Onein1024th12 points13 points  (6 children) | Copy

I was noticing that his responses were just fueling her crazy.

He should have just blocked her number for the day

Either way OP should hire a divorce lawyer ASAP. Either call her bluff or don't get fucked over if she isn't bluffing.

At least then he'd get some hysterical bonding on the way out if it doesn't turn around

[–]Balls_Wellington_Main Event + Coronavirus[S] 5 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy

Ugh, lawyers are fucking expensive though. I'd rather wait to see if it is actually going to court before I drop the money.

[–]Imaginary_Historian15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

Get a lawyer.

[–]BootySlayer9119 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Get a word of mouth referral for an excellent family law attorney who knows the local judges in your area. Spend the $300 for a consultation and make sure she's the one that abandons the house if it comes to that. For what its worth I'm a way bigger faggot than you. But you're still a big fat faggot.

[–]SteveSan826 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Get a legal consultation. It may save you more money in the long run.

[–]Serbianthuggger2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Look on the bright side, if the coronavirus kicks in you'll save a bunch of money for the lawyer.

[–]Balls_Wellington_Main Event + Coronavirus[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

She already said she's looking for a refund for the paperwork.

Just another shit test.

[–]HeckleandChide8 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy

Jeez. Exactly how does she add value to your life that makes up for this kind of nonsense?

[–]Balls_Wellington_Main Event + Coronavirus[S] 9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy

She's a good mom, a good cook, and when she isn't having a meltdown, a good friend.

I'd prefer to keep her around if I can get her past this sort of misbehavior. If not it seems the problem will solve itself.

[–]HeckleandChide8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Man, I get it. But there are a ton of women out there - if you are a good leader - who are good cooks, good nurturers, and good friends. Some of them are pretty damned hot too.

[–]mrpthrowa1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dude move on. The amount of disrespect here is through the roof. There is no salvaging this.

[–]SteveSan82-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wives are never friends. Do friends do crazy shit like that?

[–]SepeanRed Beret7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

You say she has been in a good mood this week. I assume you guys are fucking and she shows clear signs of being attracted with you, mixed in with periods where she thinks you’re the biggest asshole on earth. The good periods have been getting better and better, the bad periods worse and worse.

Those are the signs of am impending event. That’s how a girl reacts to a man turning alpha - responding to his increasing SMV while still trying to maintain control of him and testing him to see if his frame really has become stronger and he isn’t just faking it.

The main event is the alpha exam, where you go from almost alpha to full alpha if you pass. If you fail, you have to monumentally fuck up to drop down into divorce territory, I can’t even imagine how you’d do that. Main events get triggered by high value and all of that won’t go away.

So all this divorce talk is just posturing, it’s just another shit test. She’s going to test you fucking hard, for days, with shit tests and comfort tests and shitty comfort tests. Just hold frame through it, careful of whatever emotions that could roll you over - her tears are fake, her anger is fake, her threat to leave with the kids is fake. You’re not hurting her or risking your family, it’s literally just a shit test.

If you’re not fucking and you haven’t had days where she seemed happy with you, then you’re not having a main event and you might have something to worry about.

But the main event, it’s like the SEAL admission test, you’re not getting kicked out of the marine corps for not passing it.

[–]Balls_Wellington_Main Event + Coronavirus[S] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

I assume you guys are fucking and she shows clear signs of being attracted with you, mixed in with periods where she thinks you’re the biggest asshole on earth. The good periods have been getting better and better, the bad periods worse and worse.

Absolutely this. Yesterday she told me I was the best man there ever was or would be. Sang it to me, actually.

Today I am apparently the kind of man my parents would be ashamed of.

It's sort of funny. Hard seeing the stress her hamster puts on her though.

[–]SepeanRed Beret6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah, classic main event, or close to it. The good days are the real reflection of how she sees your SMV.

Everything she says during the main event is bullshit, emotional manipulation and empty threats. A&A, amused mastery, STFU. You don’t fix this by talking sense into her, calming her down or appeasing her - this is about testing your frame, nothing else, nothing more.

You fuck up by doubting what every vet here says about main events, or your frame failing under her emotional storm. It sounds like maybe sympathy is your biggest risk.

Good luck bro, it’s awesome on the other side.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

His hamster vs. Her hamster

Epic battle she wants him to win.

[–]Tiway227 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Goddamn she sounds exhausting. Honestly, let her divorce because no man should be with a horrid witch like this.

[–]UEMcGillI am become McGill, Destroyer of Blue Pill[M] 25 points26 points  (16 children) | Copy

Your first fuck up was texting. Texting is for logistics. I say again, texting is for logistics. That's your warning.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

I will be home at 6:00. Two options. Option one, be naked. Option two, be naked with heels on and your hands cuffed.

Like that?

[–]UEMcGillI am become McGill, Destroyer of Blue Pill8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

It really is that simple.

[–]Balls_Wellington_Main Event + Coronavirus[S] 0 points1 point  (13 children) | Copy

I tried to keep my responses limited to "we will talk tonight." You're right though, I think even that was counterproductive.

[–]UEMcGillI am become McGill, Destroyer of Blue Pill14 points15 points  (7 children) | Copy

The first response was wrong from the get go. She came at you snarky and bitchy. You should have shut it down or ignored.

I don't know your story, but this kind of shit come from trying to own her feelz. Every time she responded you engaged her and her bad behavior. Then you tried to make her feel better "I hope you have a good day"

My wife starts raging on text, I either call her or state simply "I see that you're upset and doing this over text wouldn't be fair to you or me."

Then go radio silent. She raged because you let her use that avenue for it. Then when you tried to change the subject, calm her feelz etc it got worse. See why texting is for logistics?

[–]Balls_Wellington_Main Event + Coronavirus[S] 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yeah, I do. I thought she would wear herself out if I gave her nothing to rage against but obviously I played it poorly.

[–]part_wolf9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s best to take the needle off the broken record when it clearly isn’t working, but I’m not sure it would’ve made a difference. Her hamster’s running like fucking Adrian Peterson.

All of the new guys, take note: this shit happens because you allowed it to happen or even enabled, endorsed, or rewarded this behavior.

Generally I let this shit marinade until my wife calls me, but even then I’ve got better shit to do unless it’s urgent or an emergency (which, sometimes it is but most times not). Best of luck with everything, but this seems like a call for help.

[–]SorcererKingMod / Red Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That would have been true... if you stopped responding. Every response you made gave oxygen to that fire.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

I am notorious for not responding to texts timely. Pisses off my wife something fierce. Unless it's something important, in which case I will call her. Maybe I'm more old school, but I prefer a phone call if someone has to say something.

[–]UEMcGillI am become McGill, Destroyer of Blue Pill6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

We have a rule in my house. If your text doesn't say urgent, it gets responded to when the time is right.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

Rule in my house: if it's urgent, call twice in a row.

If anyone calls twice, you stop what you're doing right there and text or call them back.

Wife has only used it once. I got the two buzzes at work overseas and stepped out of the meeting immediately. Daughter had broken her hand.

Otherwise I respond when I have time.

[–]An_Actual_Politician2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Love that rule. I'm adopting it. Thanks.

[–]InChargeManRed Beret10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

You're an idiot, stop trying to protect that ego, it deserves no protection. The first response was solid. That should have been it, then turn phone off or block her if needed.

[–]Balls_Wellington_Main Event + Coronavirus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Makes sense. Lesson learned.

[–]FoxShitNasty837 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

You forgot to STFU. Nevermind, when you get home hold frame and look her straight in the eyes with a cocky grin. Silly pumpkin!

Oak that shit if she comes for comfort otherwise pack your bags and head out to the iron temple to pray for forgiveness.

P.s. your a dick, such a dick. You even made me cry on valentine's... Wanker! Love foxy x

[–]Balls_Wellington_Main Event + Coronavirus[S] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'm not packing shit, she can leave if she wants.

I'll put in extra sets as penance.

[–]BarracudaRP1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm not packing shit, she can leave if she wants

Absolutely right answer - we don't move out and sacrifice our rights to the home we live in.

But u/foxshitnasty83 was just saying to get your gym bag together so you can leave and lift.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret11 points12 points  (9 children) | Copy

Way too much texting. Texting for logistics only and for sure not for fighting You fell right into her spider web by responding. You should have ghosted it and then acted like the text never happened when you got home. She might start thinking she’s married to a real man who she can’t easily pull into her frame.

Basically, what happened is she’s not attracted to you, so she found a BS excuse to not have sex with you.

That’s not a shit test. Learn the difference between shit tests and disrespect/contempt

Not only that by her response about sex tells me there’s covert contracts in place.

I’m not sure why you think a main event is going to happen, but that’s the least of your worries. Hit the weights, sidebar, and STFU

[–]Balls_Wellington_Main Event + Coronavirus[S] 2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy

Basically, what happened is she’s not attracted to you, so she found a BS excuse to not have sex with you.

Not only that by her response about sex tells me there’s covert contracts in place.

None of her responses were about sex, she is just swearing.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

None of her responses were about sex

no fucking adventure time for you late at night if u can’t let me sleep in the AM ass hat

That’s not about sex?

Look, you come on here looking for advice and then you argue with people trying to help you - you’re missing the mark by breaking some standard MRP tenets like texting only for logistics . You’ve taken enough of my time.

[–]Balls_Wellington_Main Event + Coronavirus[S] 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

adventure time

No man, that's a cartoon she was watching with me.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

Well that’s even sadder

[–]BarracudaRP4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dude, I thought Adventure Time was their faggot code word for sex too

But it's literally the cartoon show

I'm dead

[–]SelfFramedAlfa Prom King1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

One was something like... 'if I dont sleep, you dont get laid' somewhere in there.

[–]Balls_Wellington_Main Event + Coronavirus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I checked again, there's one that says "fuck spending the night with you" but she means staying awake to see me.

Nothing about sex unless I'm blind.

[–]screechhaterRed Beret9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

LOL that was some funny shit

You ain't fucking her hard enough, if you were you could turn AC/DC on @ 2am, and you'd be Hawght

Frame is everything

Divorce ? Main event ? you weak kneed pussy, this is all shit testing @ the most, if even that. Lack of respect of you not being a man

[–]helaughsinhidden4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

What is a main event?

I like to think of it as the end of the 1000ft rope. At this point, you should already be completely identifying and passing shit tests. You should be in shape, dressing better, smelling better, gaming better, and other women should know it, and you should know that they know it. You should have changed directions from being on the faggot train and now on the Alpha express. Full stop. If you aren't owning your end, you are just a faggot who has said one too many dad jokes when she was legitimately pissed off, you aren't attractive, you aren't a loss if you leave.

If you are the shit, then the main even is her noticing that you are leaving her behind and she has reached out for the last bit of 1000ft rope to cling on to you in the last moment and is pissed at how fast you are moving away from her. I gotta be honest u/Balls_Wellington, reading your text message, I don't think this is HER main event. I think you are a very drunk captain and she's legitimately fed up.

Where are your MF stats? Lifts, BF, Test, Macros? What books have you read? How long you been doing this? What level of dread are you operating on? Did you operated on each level of dread, did you keep it up for at least a month before moving up?

When you go home tonight, look yourself in the eyes in the mirror, ask yourself; "Are you a bitch ass motherfucker who needs to be checked?".

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

What level of dread are you operating on? Did you operated on each level of dread, did you keep it up for at least a month before moving up?

As a step by step playbook to MRP, BPP's book is good for about the first 4 chapters, then it turns into washy bollox like flirting with the waitress. Which isn't surprising considering it was written by a Red Pill fanboi.

MRP could really do with a better Dummies Guide to Becoming Less Retarded.

[–]RStonePT1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's funny, I was having a disagreement with Dr. Shawn Smith on Dread, since everyone is fucking retarded and doesn't even know what it is (but it must be bad). So I got back into the books and it became obvious that we were all so busy implementing dread and refining it with some of the guys here that no one thought to update the shit we wrote down!


Edit bad URL

So I did up a quick draft to deal with the obvious changes over the years. The description of it 'winning back your wife' or how Dread 9-12 are basically the same steps, forked, and how FMOFY and a few other places are completely contradictory to the idea of Frame. etc.

It's on the roadmap SB. I'm an idiot and have taken on way more things than I can accomplish, so it's not high priority

[–]wkndatbernardus4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Damn son, that text train reminds me of my ex; 0 to dramaville in 5 seconds. Her unacceptable disrespect of you aside, this is a great opportunity for you to hold frame through her emotional shitstorm. My guess is, you haven't weathered these well in the past so, they've gotten worse and worse. But, as the saying goes, "the best time to plant a tree was 10 years ago and the second best time is now" so, welcome this hysteria as a builder of your manhood. The calmer and more stoic you can be, the more she'll crumble at your feet, assuming you aren't a fatty mcbutterpants. Oh and, make an appointment with a lawyer for early next week.

[–]Balls_Wellington_Main Event + Coronavirus[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

you haven't weathered these well in the past

My old go-to was to respond to every single text and just fight all day. No frame.

I'm not really a fatty, despite what I say in my OYS. I don't have a six pack yet, but I can see my upper abs and my arms and chest look good. I'm definitely leaner than when I started.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

I'm just on the armchair here, but I bet she won't file. And b, that website she is using is slick. I didn't even realize it wasn't official. I suspect she went through and paid the fees but hasn't pulled the trigger yet.

You should probably handle any sort of conversation like a adult (also with frame). There might be a part of you that is out there, in the wilderness, having PTSD, and you're armed to the teeth and those cops that tossed you in the cell are hunting you. "They shot first, not me." amirite. Don't go Rambo, and don't make big decisions from a point of anger or your current state of fucked up. Granted, that might be too little too late, but hey, never hurts to have another warning to not go Rambo.

[–]Balls_Wellington_Main Event + Coronavirus[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

I'm not even mad right now. I know what main events are, and I've known I would eventually get one.

Mostly I feel the way I used to feel before a wrestling match. Kinda excited, kinda anxious. Very much curious to see the outcome.

You're right that she has paid the fee, I just saw it come out of our account. She's a stubborn one (stubborn enough to file), but I know she doesn't want a divorce from me. She just wants her control back. It just remains to be seen whether the stubbornness breaks down before the divorce becomes real or not.

[–]maxofreddit4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Honestly, she probably doesn’t want control, she wants to be heard and for you to listen and hear her.

Even better, your ahead of the game so she has nothing to bitch about... and if she does bitch you can hold a mirror up and say “Really?” And you can both have a laugh.

She’s bitching because haven’t been on your A game long enough for her to be convinced you can actually lead.

[–]Balls_Wellington_Main Event + Coronavirus[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

I don't think she wants control per se, but she's had control for a long time, and letting go of it is terrifying.

She feels the change and doesn't understand it, and so she fights it.

[–]maxofreddit1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Astute observation

[–]tap09885343 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Her words are just a fit. I used to get texts like this everyday. She doesn't know why her feelz are maddening or what she wants. She is on the verge of figuring out you can be her oak. Your job from now on is to be calm, fun and reassuring in the face of the dragon. You don't flood with emotions. You dont want a divorce, but youll be fine if she does it. At the end of this fit, you can fold her into your arms with a 2 min hug while she sobs.

[–]maxofreddit7 points8 points  (19 children) | Copy

You use a hair dryer? Jesus Christ.

Take me two cents for what you will... but if you had been captaining this whole time, one little thing like this wouldn’t be a big deal. It’s almost NEVER about the thing you’re “fighting” about and it’s more about true bigger picture.

She needs fucking comfort, and to feel connected, and you’re not doing any of that. It’s not just about Ramboing and being SO alpha. If you were really leading your house, you would’ve headed this off before it came to this.

I’m NOT saying bitches aren’t crazy sometimes. I just wonder if you would’ve actively called her BEFORE the breakdown and said something like,

Hey hon, hope you had super fun staying up extra late last night watching your shows... I was REALLY trying to wake you up this morning with the hair dryer.” She would laugh/roll her eyes, then you would say. “We’ve has a rough week, and I have beers planned for tonight, but I want to set aside time this weekend for us to see a movie, what do you want to see?

-work meeting, will add more later

Edit/Continued -

LAST NIGHT - You should have been aware enough about your ship to say, “Hon, you’ve been down and out and sick for a week, I know you want to watch your shows and stay up, but I think an early bed-time to focus on rest would be an even better idea.”

It’s amazing to me how people have no communication skills at all.

[–]WeightsNCheatDates5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Your fight started exactly like the one I had last week- but it basically came down to my lack of comfort.

It shouldn’t be a problem for me to get beers with a co-worker and leave my pregnant wife at home, but it is when I haven’t done anything fun with her in a while and haven’t provided comfort.

This weekend we have a fun weekend planned, and it’s no problem I’m getting beers again with that co-worker tonight.

[–]marv86kw1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Emphasis on this. OP ramboing?

[–]Balls_Wellington_Main Event + Coronavirus[S] 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

I'm trying to put more effort into my appearance. No shame there, just trying to look good.

We haven't even had a rough week. Wife has been in a great mood up until this text chain.

[–]maxofreddit5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

It sounds like your lady likes a little drama, if you can captain properly, and get ahead of it, AND eventually get her laughing about her own craziness.... THEN you are actually her “rock/oak” or whatever.

To push the metaphor, of an oak doesn’t bend a bit in the wind, then it’ll snap. It’s not about being a hardass ALL the time. You have to bob & weave every so often before you see an opening and land one that they can’t ignore.

[–]Balls_Wellington_Main Event + Coronavirus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, she very much likes it when I do that. That said, I'm not here just to do what she likes, and if that pisses her off so be it.

[–]Redrover8574 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Don’t DEER about shit like a hair dryer.

[–]Balls_Wellington_Main Event + Coronavirus[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ha, fair enough.

[–]hack3geRed Beret2 points3 points  (11 children) | Copy

Hair dryers seem to be a hot button topic lately - my wife recently got all up in arms because she asked if I had used hers and I said know and she said she knew I did and asked why. I had completely forgotten gym chick used it that morning to dry her hair after we showered. Oops....

[–]part_wolf2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

I’m interested to know how you’re keeping those ducks in order.

[–]hack3geRed Beret0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

That was the first time I had brought her home - we usually go to her place but her parents were home so that was a no go and I really wanted to fuck her.

Probably a bad choice on my part and risky - I’ll probably not do that again though she seemed to really get off on being in my bed.

[–]part_wolf2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

You must have French doors in your bedroom, because there’s no fucking way you’d fit through a standard door with such massive balls.

[–]hack3geRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Haha - zero fucks given anymore. There are literally no downsides if my wife divorces me now.

She just got a huge promotion so if we split she’s going to have to pay me child support now plus a portion of her increased bonus. Only thing I’d be upset about is losing half of my rental business but I can build that back up since I have a good system for it now.

The more I think about it I’m actually more concerned about her dad coming home when we fuck at her house than my wife walking in at my house. You never know what a grown man will do and I’m pretty sure he has guns.

[–]Imaginary_Historian1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

You gave me a plan, as I use my girlfriend's expensive hair dryer all the time. My hair is short, buzz cut, I use it to dry my balls when I get out of the shower. So if she asks me if I used it, I will say yes, I took a girl home from the gym and she used it to dry her hair after we showered.

PS: have you heard of hotel rooms?

[–]FoxShitNasty833 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I use it to dry my balls when I get out of the shower

Power to the max!

[–]hack3geRed Beret0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Nah I don’t use hotels - we usually go to her place but her parents were home.

[–]TheBlockedUser2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

How young is this bitch?

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Old enough to make sure her parents aren't home when he is there.

[–]TheBlockedUser0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


[–]hack3geRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

22 - she moved back in with her parents after college

[–]coachdad83 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

The amount of F-bombs she dropped on you tells me she thinks you are a child and has zero respect for your leadership. Maybe get another wife and this time earn some respect?

[–]khalabrakis1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yea, not a commando or anything. But come the fuck on, if anyone thinks social media does anything for their relationship, they're insane. Her mind is filled with inspirational memes and stupid fad ideas. Get off that shit, and try not to drink beers all the time. Shits a lifewrecker.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You should've only texted her once: "We'll talk tonight"

Then turn the fucking text notifications or the entire phone OFF

[–]SelfFramedAlfa Prom King1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

She has no respect for you.

You last OSY (3 days ago) you said how sick you were, and how hard it was having the sick kid all over you.

What did your wife do to help you when you were sick? Did she come home early or call off work?

[–]Balls_Wellington_Main Event + Coronavirus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She couldn't for three of the days, she was at orientation at work and would have had to push her start date by a month.

One day I told her I had a meeting and she begged her trainer into giving her a half day so I didn't have to leave work.

[–]SteveSan821 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Stop texting back. It's just fuel for the fire and puts you in her frame. Divorce sounds nice.

[–]RStonePT1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol. What exactly do you think a main event is?

[–]mrpthrowa1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you get to the stage where you’re worried about a false DV charge, move on.

[–]UnbreakableFrame1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy

I don't agree with the sentiment that this is only a massive shit test. This woman is desperate. What's the theme of all of those texts? A complete and total lack of leadership characterizes your relationship. While she's clearly flying way off the handle, this woman is so done with your beta ass that she's basically telling you to fuck off and die. This is not a woman poking you to test you.

I don't have time to read all of your OYS posts, but I read a few. You never mention your drinking in the ones I saw, but it's clearly impacting your ability to lead. Is her reaction to your 5am noise ridiculous? Absolutely. It's totally childish and unreasonable. At the start of that text thread, I was convinced she was being a BPD bitch. However, as I read further, I see more and more ways that you are being a faggot. By the time I got to the bottom, I was convinced that you are a drunk captain.

Holding frame is great, but too seldom do we talk about the constituent parts of a good frame. Holding frame about going out to drink after work is gay as fuck. What is drinking adding to your life? How does drinking fit into your MAP? A neckbeard MGTOW holding frame about loving hentai isn't alpha. If your frame is whack, holding frame is whack.

Credit where credit is due. You did a pretty good job of deflecting her text barrage. However, your current and ongoing behavior is the reason she is acting so fucking nuts. This isn't 1,000' rope and her not catching up yet. This is you presently failing to lead and being a butthurt faggot about your own shortcomings. The time you are spending drinking could change your whole life if you spent it reading or rereading the sidebar material instead.

Quitting drinking changed my life. It took me over a year of MRP to realize it was the biggest hindrance to my progress. I promise you, its impact is so much more than you realize.

[–]resolutions3169 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy

Wow. Who got manipulated by OPs wife more - you or him?

[–]bowhunter62 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Amen, brother. After a tantrum like that, he absolutely cannot cave to her bullshit, even if she files. Fuck it.

[–]UnbreakableFrame-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

What do we do here? We help men become badass. It's not relevant whether or not what she's saying is true. She may be psychotic, but it's obvious to anyone with experience here why she would be acting that way. It's a lack of leadership, plain and simple.

[–]resolutions3166 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Leadership is for HIM. Not for her. Owning your shit is for YOU. Not for her.

Owning your shit, captaining, being a “leader” and a “patriarch” -

None of this is a guarantee your wife will not manipulate you, be irrational, be emotional, etc.

Is he a fuck up? Of course.

But you can’t look to his wife and say “IF YOU DID IT RIGHT THIS WOULDN’T BE HAPPENING.”

That’s just the dancing monkey. Hoping mommy will play nice if you do your homework.

[–]Balls_Wellington_Main Event + Coronavirus[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I think you might have a bit of the wrong idea.

I haven't been a drinker for years. Beers with coworkers is one or two beers, one night a week. At my company this is basically a professional requirement to get anything done. I'll only get home about an hour later than normal, and I'll be sober when I do.

And the noise I made was at 8am. She is the one that works at 5, it is one of her days off so she could go back to sleep if she wanted. She's just tired because she stayed up watching cartoons last night.

[–]UnbreakableFrame1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

If you are positive about what you are saying and that I'm totally off base, then I would just leave her. If you truly are not in the wrong here at all then your wife is completely insane.

[–]Tyred_Biggums0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you truly are not in the wrong here at all then your wife is completely insane.

These texts are pretty tame.

[–]umizumiz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


She would've stopped if you hadn't given in.

You're worth more than to argue with anyone over stupid shit, especially when they're trying to hurt you.

[–]CryptoManbeard0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Having gotten out of an abusive relationship with a pscyho nutbag, your text chain gives me PTSD.

I can tell you confidently that when this relationship is over, and you've moved on, you will be so fucking thankful that it ended. I'm about 8 years out and my life is 1000x better without that kind of stress.

Just make sure you put in the work and figure out why you were ever in a relationship in the first place with someone who was so clearly insane, lest you end up with another just as crazy.

Get the best divorce lawyer you can, if you want to be an involved dad go to https://forum.mensdivorce.com/viewforum.php?f=12 and read some of the stuff there. There are basic mistakes most dad's make that get them in trouble in divorce court in regards to custody and visitation.

Good luck. The ride is going to be tough just take it day by day. One day you'll wake up and be thankful it didn't work out.

[–]Carrera32860 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Haha dude, not to make light of your circumstances but holy fuck that’s a hilarious text chain. Please feel confident in the fact that you’re in the right and regardless of what happens you’re better off, because that’s fucking psychotic.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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