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You aren't a clown. Stop trying to entertain every fucking female

by Nikelu | March 15, 2020 | TheRedPill

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Hey guys. I just want to give back to this community a bit. Pretty much everything is already said, read the sidebar, lift , do what you want in life and don't be a little bitch and when things don't go your way, work harder or change approach. And hey this sub has gone to utter shit because the "alpha" guys realised it's not all about the girls and how to do cold approach. You guys are too sex depraved to realise there are more important things in life than getting a smelly pussy.

Anyways quick post . Stop trying to entertain every girl you meet. Stop trying to find the next line in your chat, stop trying to pick up the conversation after a dead silence or pause. Why do YOU have to be the entertainer and the one to keep the pace up. Let the girl do the work for once. These b are getting too adhd by the constant likes and approval of instagram and they can't even form half a sentence nowadays.

It's not your job to do that. An interesting girl will keep the convo up. An interesting girl will ask you questions too because she genuinely cares or is just a decent human being. If you go out with a b and you feel like you are doing an interview, that's because that's what's happening. It's not supposed to be like this. I get it you may not have many common points but there are so many things to talk about if you know how to converse.

I'm not going out lately a lot, I used to do that when I was younger. Now my lifestyle has almost taken care of that lol. Girls see me doing interesting shit and they hit me up and say it'd be nice to meet you. Why? Because most people are doing nothing with their lives. I see my family all glued up to a phone. Retards. Don't be like this. And if your friends are like this, change them. Go fucking monk mode until you meet new people.

This also applies to chatting. I know many of you like this way of communication and I get it. It's instant , it's fast . But it only hurts you and your perception. Be busy. Keep texting only for logistics. Don't waste all your subjects in chatting. Tell that to her in person. And you are not supposed to be a fucking shoe carpet for m'ladies. If they are boring, if they respond with an emoji or a thumbs up, don't even bother don't even tell them to fuck off . Don't even try to think of the next interesting line. Just skip this b and live your life. Let them do the work once. Don't answer. or answer with just a thumbs up or emoji. Freak her out a bit. Don't be the average fedora tipper. Have some fucking pride and respect for yourself.

And hey, I hope it's not too late when you realise that pussy doesn't even matter. Like at all. I know, you are insecure now, and some may not have sex at all but ..whatever, experience can't be transferred. I'll try to answer to any questions tomorrow. But be your best self guys . Things are very simple and we are too retarded to understand this. Do some sports, have an interesting passion and chase it, be creative and productive and you will be happy. Having a nice company and a chick that gets you is also nice. Anyways. Gl with the covid shit


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Title You aren't a clown. Stop trying to entertain every fucking female
Author Nikelu
Upvotes 1285
Comments 139
Date 15 March 2020 09:08 PM UTC (3 months ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/355098
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/fj8m5p/you_arent_a_clown_stop_trying_to_entertain_every/
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[–]Leg__Day248 points249 points  (40 children) | Copy

Awesome post and can't agree enough. I've experienced way too many girls who don't reciprocate in conversations or texting and I've stopped talking to all of them asap and life is better than ever. You want quality in your life and that will come, just don't worry about it and waste time on it. Focus on growing yourself and going out and meeting people like yourself and the quality women will present themselves. Stop placing so much emphasis on women as well. Don't live for them, live for you.

[–]mrrooftops76 points77 points  (39 children) | Copy

Girls joke about setting thirst traps to build their self esteem. Yes, even they use that term now. Guys... don't be that.

[–]Leg__Day42 points43 points  (36 children) | Copy

Aka white knights or friend zone suckers.

Twitch has grown a new breed of men and women, for the worse.

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[–]RedHoodhandles38 points39 points  (0 children) | Copy

He's jealous. And you're acting smug. Both of you would be better off if you find your own apartements.

[–]mrrooftops23 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's only a matter of time before these drooling spergs are given their own gender.

[–]1meerita12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy

I've watched how a big streamer, got dumped by another famouse girl streamer. The couple was disfunctional as fuck: he skinny to the bones, soyboy look, completely antimasculine and she was like 100% fuckable. His posts were stinking simp behaviour and i knew what would happen: she used him for fame, he is one of the most famous streamers of twitch but she don't. In the end, hypergamy step over the current blue pill propaganda. The worst thing about this is he think we red pilled guys are the problem.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Question: if he is such a loser why r u living with him?

[–]Leg__Day5 points6 points  (21 children) | Copy

They will die out because they won't ever get to procreate.

[–]DemFineKnees20 points21 points  (6 children) | Copy

Doubt it. He'll end up being the useful virgin to some used up thot. He'll get settled down for and the girl will eventually let him put a baby in her.

You only need to check relationship subreddits to find prime examples of "virgin dude met SO who's been with 50+ partners, now happily married with 2 beautiful children."

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[–]DemFineKnees8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

He's not going to procreate because his bottom-line standards for a girlfriend are 18 year old virgin 10's who have never had their vaginas gazed upon. Not even by themselves.

You're confusing political incel and simp. They're not the same. Pol incels are tradcons who want the virgin teen who hadn't had any experience.

Simps are often just guys who want something to chew on and don't overthink it much. A simp is a regular incel, not a political one.

Even if he did land the situation you've described, those ain't Sperg's kid, bro. They're someone else's.

Be real for a second. life isn't a MGTOW video where each and every baby born is a case for paternity fraud. The examples of dudes losing their virginity to their slutty girlfriends who "got tired of dating and want something stable," marrying them on a whim and popping a baby inside are quite frequent.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

There are 30+ year old ex-hoes that settle down with some simp with a good high paying job everywhere.

[–]DemFineKnees1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yup. There is a lot of wishful thinking going on by MGTOWs or some other Red Pill communities (like this one) about 30+ women and how they're 'lonely'. Women will never have a hard time getting either lays or relationships, at any point in their lives.

The only thing that would prevent them from getting any would be their own standards. If a woman decides to settle down for a chubby hard worker with great pay, they will 100% find one, there are far too many of them. Hell I'd wager they make up a significant chunk of the male collective.

[–]barnowl51 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Just found this...might be an interesting read: http://www.dearcupid.org/question/my-wifes-promiscuous-past-still-haunts-me-after.html

The retroactive jealousy is eye-opening.

[–]DemFineKnees1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

What's more interesting is how the major advice given to these men is to "smother" the jealousy. in reality they should have never settled for sluts. Shey have learned to date and have their own experience so they can eventually settle with some peace of mind.

Oh well, that's western society for you.

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[–]Leg__Day14 points15 points  (7 children) | Copy

Lmao. I don't know how people have roommates, I can't and won't ever do it.

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[–]Leg__Day10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'm going to pray for you tonight. God speed my brother.

[–]EPArt1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wah there's two fuck that think I would rather pay for hotels and do em there.

[–]alien_race_4200 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

$$$$$

I've managed to save up a nice down payment

[–]glikojen5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

What the fuck is wrong with that?

[–]le_artistic_madlad0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

they are not products of genetics, these people will continue to be created.

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[–]Leg__Day2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's one toxic and pessimistic take

[–]SavvyVolley60 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ew

Dude needs to be euthanized.

[–]andreas-mgtow-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

My roommate ... bleh, bleh, bleh

Stop being a weak cunt and get your own fucking place.

I tell you this as a true bro. Thank me later.

[–]yomo865 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Thinking of teenage boys and young men we have to be equally empathatic as we are tough on them. Imagine being younger man longing for the soft caring touch and approval of a woman in her peak years after coming from a broken fatherless home. Being a simp by default is the norm. Being hurr-durr me-alpha isn't the answer. Whenever young guys in my white collar corp doing their little fool's dance for a girls attention I quietly talk to them using a RP lite form. Usually it helps more in their lifes than just being a dick.

[–]Leg__Day5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wow, you do that? I had a mentor 6 years ago that I just gravitated towards in my work space. I was in my mid 20s and he was in his either late 60s or early 70s and just about the best guy I've ever met or known under my father. We are still in touch to this day. We talked about so much and his advice (whenever I asked for it) was always so rational and perfect.

He's currently retired and racing cars like a crazy old man, but I love the guy.

The one piece of advice that has stuck with me to this day is this: You are in a position of power when you have options. Never find yourself in a position without options.

This can be applied to literally any area of life, but one thing I want to make clear, whatever your agenda is with women, I personally don't take it to mean always have several girls on the side of your main one. I take it as weed out the ones that drain your energy and effort and come to one that enhances you and your life and be sure and confident in that decision from an aggregate of life experiences. When this happens, you can be safe and secure.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Girls should be chasing you 80% of the time maslows law

[–]mmfootball9271 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Shame is a thing of the past for them in terms of this. Really is crazy how publicly girls can talk about manipulating men for attention and no one even batting a fucking eye

[–]brofessor190187 points88 points  (4 children) | Copy

If you have fun and entertain yourself/bros, females will have fun to.

[–]Shieldless_One56 points57 points  (2 children) | Copy

“Women love anything with a sense of belonging” Patrice O’Neal

[–]MrAnderzon34 points35 points  (0 children) | Copy

His radio show Black Phillip all of us should watch monthly to keep our pimp hands strong.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLh8oUx_ONafXHhcA45m43A7eNGf9vIrpX

Rest In Pimp Patrice O’Neal

[–]Drive_Thru_Sushi13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think the important thing to note here is that you can’t catch them all, so stop trying so god damn hard unless you’re here for straight PUA advice.

[–]zUltimateRedditor63 points64 points  (17 children) | Copy

Having friends in life is a HUGE deal. I think it all starts with making friends first. And then take it from there.

[–]Sumfuc36 points37 points  (16 children) | Copy

I lived most of my life as a ”Lone Wolf”, & I wish I had not. Addressing this & I realize friendships are earned & needs to be constantly cultivated(work).

[–]zUltimateRedditor22 points23 points  (15 children) | Copy

Yeah man, it sucks because you can’t force them. Having friends opens so many doors to hobbies, experiences, girls, money etc

[–]Sumfuc28 points29 points  (14 children) | Copy

Recently got introduced to a HUGE group of fellas that roll together because of related professions (law enforcement), veterans & various hobbies (guns, motorcycles, cigars). After a tremendous BBQ dinner we met at a very exceptional cigar lounge & spent a total of 11 hours smoking cigars, whiskey & mercilessly busting each other’s balls till 3AM. Not bad considering my first time ever meeting this crew.

Now I’m on a mission to get my pistol permit & MC license before the riding season starts.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (10 children) | Copy

Now I’m on a mission to get my pistol permit & MC license before the riding season starts.

so jealous of this. i feel the 1 thing holding me back is i have 0 guy friends... putting more effort into this but it hard af

[–]chocolatecomedyfan5 points6 points  (8 children) | Copy

Mate. My two unsolicited cents. I moved to London a couple of years after having lived in NYC for the longest time. Didn’t know anyone here except people from work. Joining local Reddit groups and meeting people at events led me to make a small but tight group of friends with whom I do different types of hobbies. Try and see if your local area has a subreddit and invite people to do random things with you. It’s hard work but very rewarding. Good luck mate.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy

this is great, thank you.. it seems my biggest issue is either i come off as an arrogant fuck or i feel guys are hyper-competitive to me because of my age + income. (over REMOVED, in my 20s, tech etc). i try to not mention it but my work is also my life so it eventually comes up. i get on well with 30, 40yr olds but not too many are keen of a "kid" friend. any advice here?

love the uk btw. just came back from staying in north yorkshire w/ a girl i met on reddit 🙃

[–]chocolatecomedyfan3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Cheers. Glad you enjoyed U.K.

I have encountered that too. For context I’m early 30s, management consultant, so I earn a good amount of change. I just don’t bring it up or just downplay my actual job. If someone asks me how much I earn, I don’t answer. It’s not their business and really brings out the competitiveness in people.

As for you coming across as arrogant, think about what you say to people that might seem like that. A very important part of self improvement and being attractive is self reflection and being a good person. Maybe ask some of your closest friends on what makes you seem like that? I also recommend Charisma on Command YouTube channel. Helped me unpack a lot of good and bad behaviors of mine. If anything else, DM me and l I’ll be happy to chat further. Good luck!

[–]JurrasicBarf0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Sweet, how’d you meet girls on reddit.. everyone’s anon?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

edit - annnnnd we are not gonna repeat this story

[–]JurrasicBarf0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Hahaha, interesting story!! I was at an databricks event event recently. Love what you guys are doing!!

[–]DONT_reply_with_THIS-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Join the military, law enforcement or fire department.

[–]SkullBoyFive-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

This sounds fucking badass

[–]Spurnout50 points51 points  (2 children) | Copy

RIP to all the clown performers subbed here. No one respects clowning as a profession anymore, lol.

[–]MisterSlippyFinger20 points21 points  (1 child) | Copy

Anymore? When was it ever respected?

[–]Spurnout7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ouch! Good thing I'm not a clown!

[–]TheRealMewt46 points47 points  (0 children) | Copy

Very good write-up.

Being a girl's fucking court jester isn't how you treat yourself as the prize for her to win. It's the very antithesis of the idea. It's not to say don't have fun or to not make her laugh or whatever, but if you're putting in way too much energy to receive a pittance of her attention, it's time to reevaluate your strategy.

[–]Maxofwarcraft41 points42 points  (1 child) | Copy

These b are getting too adhd by the constant likes and approval of instagram and they can't even form half a sentence nowadays.

100% this. Chicks will literally make a post and then link the post to their story asking their followers to like it. Like it's some form of currency or drug.

Great post.

[–]le_artistic_madlad6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

that's just putting a number on validation. it makes competition easier.

[–]Cfwydirk67 points68 points  (4 children) | Copy

Great post. Too often I read posts where men do the redpill so they have a better chance for a 9 or 10 in looks. How about being 100% redpill and go for a 9 or 10 good person? Has her own life not depending on you for everything, glad to see you, few games or drama, mostly on time, somewhat thrifty, doesn’t feel entitled, one who you want to be around!

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[–]Cfwydirk2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well good. Good for you! Perfect round fake tits!

[–]lolomotif1225 points26 points  (4 children) | Copy

Exactly! When ever I see "I wAnT sOmE OnE tO mAkE mE LaUgH" on a woman's profile in OLD no matter how hot they are it's a hard NEXT. I am no bitches clown.

[–]Acidwanker3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

I want to make people laugh but I'm not waiting for someone to come entertain me smh. If they're funny as well great, but there's no better feeling than making someone else laugh.

[–]631_Exuberant_Bias0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Unless they're laughing AT you.

[–]Acidwanker0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Shit I laugh at myself sometimes lol

[–]Depressedkid199848 points49 points  (15 children) | Copy

Its hard when so few females actually validate u and give u pussy u get attached as fuck, i have to pretend to not give a fuck and slowly die inside then they always come back but it shouldn’t be this hard

[–]russian-jewboi53 points54 points  (13 children) | Copy

That’s because you’re putting pussy on a pedestal. Learn how to not do that (see: finding your mission) and then you’ll stop giving a fuck about women and realize that sex and pussy is pretty fucking overrated.

[–]skippwiggins16 points17 points  (10 children) | Copy

Man sex is awesome. I will saying being into dudes is nice because you don’t deal with any of this. You literally say “hey handsome why aren’t we fucking yet?” And you’ll be fucking that night. If you’re really good and really hot you can do this with women too but it’s rare. Guys just want to fuck always and don’t hide it. For the record I’m into both.!

[–]party_dragon3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

^ biggest downside of being strictly straight :*(

[–]russian-jewboi9 points10 points  (7 children) | Copy

Good for you bro haha. I’m personally not gay but I can definitely see what you’re saying. For me, sex honestly feels like a chore. Maybe there’s something wrong with me but who knows. I just think it’s super overrated and I’d rather choose to spend my time doing more useful things.

[–]tbonemcmotherfuck3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Maybe have your testosterone level checked.

[–]russian-jewboi0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I actually just started TRT two weeks ago lmao. But I've been this way my whole life, where the chase to sex is great but the actual sex is meh

[–]MisterSlippyFinger1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You ever get into tantric sex? If not, then try it out. It’s like a whole new world.

[–]Seeno1-2 points-1 points  (3 children) | Copy

It’s a chore cause you probably got shitty stamina.

[–]russian-jewboi1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Definitely not bro. I have to force myself to cum. I’m pretty sure it has something to do with condoms because when I wear a condom I basically don’t feel anything.

[–]skippwiggins0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Oh well that makes sense. I never use condoms with women.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Read this aloud every morning in front of the mirror for a month.

[–]stevecapw5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

You either aren't focusing on your own goals, or are getting over-invested/outcome independent with them.

[–]db1000c26 points27 points  (1 child) | Copy

I agree with the sentiment here for the most part. The thing is though, a substantial chunk of people are very boring/annoying. Generally speaking. Think about it, if you go out to a bar and strike up a conversation, or match with a girl on Tinder, what percentage chance is there of them being totally boring. I'd say it's upwards of 75%. 3 in ever 4 people will be a bore. Sometimes you have to be the change you want to see, you can bring people out of themselves with some liveliness on your part. Don't be a clown, and don't chase a lost cause, but don't think socialising should take no work on your own end, that's the slight downside of the "you're the prize" mentality here. Yes, the end goal is to realise you are worth more than you think and to change your mindset to be less desperate. But that doesn't mean beginning to act like every chubber with too many matches on Tinder who now thinks she's HB9. You are the prize but you need to be a prize worth claiming. The Lottery jackpot might be £15million, but if they don't advertise that no one would ever play.

[–]nickdimitrov6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

This right here. Most people are bored because they have been conditioned by constant stimulation to be boring and never take initiative. Most people are a drag, but you can still have a quick conversation or a one night stand with them. Vetting for people with value is for male friendships and girls you keep around.

Most people are in a half-asleep state where they expect for good emotions to be served to them on a plate, it's just how things are nowadays. A quality man should see to his own good emotions and transcendent life - people will be attracted to that reality you maintain for yourself - you can then set boundaries to only keep high-quality people around to enjoy that experience.

I agree that you have to be the change you want to see - people are attracted to presence and conviction, because they see security and good emotions in that. When overwhelmed with anxiety, people default to a closed-off uptight state, where they numb their own emotions, but when a man follows his mission and takes responsibility for his fun, he is no longer clinging to people and things to satisfy those needs for him - people gravitate to that strongly.

[–]MarbleWheels7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

You. You are right. Translated in more general worlds: THE goal is to have a cool life, that will make you attractive. A strong man strives to have a cool life not "being attractive".

[–]FeniZio946 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thankfully there are still people in TRP who actually understand that these guys entertaining every single hoe they can see, are basically glorified blue pill betas... with a 10% TRP brain

[–]strikethrough1235 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Rule of thumb is don’t overinvest. If she isn’t matching your energy then next her. Keep it simple.

[–]thanusall8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

yes dont be an entertainer, but men do have the burden of performance, we cant change nature

[–]slip-down7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

If they are boring, if they respond with an emoji or a thumbs up, don't even bother don't even tell them to fuck off . Don't even try to think of the next interesting line. Just skip this b and live your life.

Exactly this. There's another top post about how you're not her top option, or something like that. Basically, if she's slow to respond, doesn't seem available or is giving one word replies, next her. It's freed me. So many men out there are trying to be strategic and witty. Don't waste your time. This will also give you more of an abundance mentality and IDGAF. Which serves to help you later. Good post.

[–]KuanLuPi10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

A lot of blue pill running through this post. You don’t have to entertain them if you don’t want. I don’t know what you’re looking for exactly, but if you are looking to get out and meet women then this advice will go over like a lead-beta-balloon. If being charming, funny, or interesting in a natural and sincere way seems too hard for you it’s ok. You don’t have to. But the crusade you’re on is existing solely in your head. The women you stare at blankly are not going to be learning the bizarre lesson you are trying to teach them.

[–]1empatheticapathetic21 points22 points  (4 children) | Copy

This post is so unfocused and missing the mark. So much for preventing the sub from going to shit...

We are aware we shouldn't validate women excessively, but "an interesting scotsman girl would open you". No, it's your job. Women don't hit most of us up. It's up to us to do the entire approach and lead from beginning to end.

There is no binary way to look at these situations the way you're doing. She might be somewhat interested but unable or unwilling to show it. It's up to you to read the situation, and learn from any misreads or fuck ups. Some women might be worth hitting up and some not, its up to whether you think it's worth it and whether you even care enough. How you feel about that isn't the same as everyone else. The idea regularly communicated on this forum is to try things for yourself and learn what works and doesn't work for you.

But no women aren't hitting men up regularly unless you are in the top 20%, and most men are not there. Part of getting there is learning how to converse, which is what you say we should know already...

It's easy to have this attitude when you have abundance and admittedly don't give a shit anyway. I don't really give a shit and focus on fitness/work/friends/hobbies and exactly zero women are hitting me up.

Try spending more than 5 minutes writing a post next time.

[–]nickdimitrov1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

My thoughts exactly. It's nonsensical to entertain people as a social strategy, but most people are bored and closed-off by default, which means very often we have to carry the weight, at least initially. The post mentioned that we should focus more on improving our lives (which is spot on), but it's borderline insane to think that women will swarm a guy like flies just because he "has a cool life". Learning to communicate that higher-value experience effortlessly to people (and make them feel it) is a crucial skill, since you can't expect all women to be able immediately open up to any guy who chats them up.

[–]im2rad2b4go101 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah dude. There are conflicting mindsets that get passed around TRP. The first is getting laid. The second is being indifferent to whether you get laid.

This post blurs the line and makes it sound like by being indifferent, you will get laid. That is not the case for 99% of men.

If you want to get laid you have to work at it. Work on your game and frame. Being outgoing, being persistent, being experienced enough to know quickly whether a chick is worth your effort or not. Men need to get laid a lot to understand the feeling of ownership and leadership that men need to feel. You need to feel that dominance over women at some point in your life.

Telling normal dudes that by being indifferent, IDGAF, or monk mode will mean that women will hit you up to get fucked is misleading.

[–]1kenpachitz2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Girls see me doing interesting shit and they hit me up and say it'd be nice to meet you.

Paint the picture. What interesting things are you doing and how are these girls seeing it to hit you up?

[–]Nikelu[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Travelling, working out, climbing mountains/hiking etc, going to concerts , uploading myself singing and having fun trolling,driving , doing voluntary work when possible (#trashtag) / feeding homeless people.

[–]gusta_cl2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I agree a lot. By this sentence, then PUAs are the biggest clowns of them all.

[–]bemore_2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I practice meditation. I watch my mind literally look for, find and see opportunities to make her laugh. A part of it is my witty, playful nature but another part is a sense that if she laughs she likes me, ie. my intention is validation based, so I don't try anymore, if she doesn't laugh at something that's on her. All this effort because media said that women like humour. I say just save your humour for the girls that want to see you, since they like you they'll enjoy even your dummest shit anyway. So because of the mental effects social conditioning has in this sense I'd advise guys to not to be funny at all, just drop it, save it for people that like you for you. In fact do the opposite, laugh at her... If she says something witty, clever, amusing encourage it, thats the role you wanna be playing - not getting validation for your effort, giving validation for hers

[–]DONT_reply_with_THIS2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Great post, always thought the guys spending 20 minutes coming up with a "witty" opener for a chick he never met was beta.

I like to let a silence linger every once in a while. It doesn't make me uncomfortable. Also I refuse to interview a woman on a date. If she's not asking me questions or contributing to the conversation there won't be a second date.

Raise your standards bros. Some of these hoes don't deserve your dick.

[–]ebaymasochist9 points10 points  (5 children) | Copy

It all comes down to this: Women don't want to fuck the jester. They want to fuck the king.

[–]DemFineKnees2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

They ain't gonna fuck a boring ass king either. Stop making retarded analogies to describe inter-gender relationships.

[–]ebaymasochist6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

I'm not ass king, I'm telling.

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[–]Snowpeartea1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

F for me! Thank you for this!! FUCK!! MET A girl recently all she does is want to go out on "dates" and do stuff. She turned me down for wanting to stay home to cook and have a relaxing time.

So I should just say fuck it. I want to stay in, you can join me or not, either I ll be FUCKING MAKING HOME MADE PIZZA during this corona virus.

Need some fucking respect and pride for myself I am the prize.

[–]deepakjohn90001 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Some bitch : you gotta make me laugh!

Dr. Patrice O'Neal : bitch stfu, it ain't my job!

[–]custoscustodis1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

1000000%.

If she's attracted to you, she'll text you to death all day long (shiny new toy) and talk your ear off in person. She'll definitely initiate and keep up the witty banter.

[–]VividAstronaut861 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Great read. It's nice to have something that goes to the roots of this sub. I'm saving this.

RP is about opening your mind not twat chasing.

[–]1maverick97591 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Simple back to basics post. Medium is the message and NEXT. Great reminder.

[–]Standgrounding1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

TL;DR entertain yourself not them

[–]arted1231 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's amazing how boring most women are once you start actually talking to them. Hot girls end up being quite conditioned from years of a certain type of attention...most, but not all of course.

[–]Zech4riah2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Ah, the ultimate TRP goal. If just all the girls could see you doing what you do, you wouldn't need to cold approach. The girls would just start falling to your lap and you could feel like a man finally. No need for cold approach.

It seems that you haven't been too successful with approaching girls or it has been exhausting for you (the bitterness tells it). When you get it down, you will enjoy interactions even with a bit duller girls. (self amusement etc.). Also personally I love the thrill of the hunt and talking to multiple girls in the night clubs etc.

Once again, it's not so black and white.

[–]Nikelu[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Well I got lucky with decent genes so any type of approach usually works. My sarcasm and idgaf attitude takes care of that. Love approaching at clubs.

Btw Im not talking abt club life. I'm just talking about texting and dates.

[–]Zech4riah0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Btw Im not talking abt club life. I'm just talking about texting and dates.

Alright, missed that, perhaps many others did too.

And hey, I hope it's not too late when you realise that pussy doesn't even matter. Like at all.

This is also scientifically proven wrong. That's just the feeling when you get to the point that you can get laid whenever you want. That's the point when pussy's value drops significantly in mans thoughts.

[–]Useeikill0 points1 point  (18 children) | Copy

Since you mentioned monk mode I'm curious, do you support nofap? I feel as if many TRPers misinterpret it(in both directions) and either think that it will solve all their issues on its own or that it's BS, where both of those views are false.

[–]salezman1212 points13 points  (13 children) | Copy

NoFap is the biggest load of shit I've ever heard. I beat my dick every single mornin before I even get out of bed and I damn sure ain't gonna stop any time soon.

The problem is having your ideals shaped by pornography. A lot of people will tell you that porn is the problem but I don't even believe that porn itself is the issue. Its the way you allow yourself to perceive the porn you are watching. If you are watching porn and you find yourself having unrealistic ideas of how sex works because you are unable to separate fantasy from reality, then you have a problem, but that problem is not the porn its you.

They also wanna act like watchin' porn is conditioning yourself to be cucked because you are watchin somebody fuck a girl you wanna be fuckin. I feel like thats pretty goddamn weak minded too. If that's your take away then, yet again, you have a problem. But that problem is still not porn, its you.

The whole thing here is to not be so fuckin weak minded that you are effected by that sorta thing. When you wanna get out there and fuck, get out there and fuck. When you wanna sit on your couch and not be bothered but still get a nutt, beat your dick like it owes you money and dont let anyone tell you not to. The real cuck move is lettin another dude tell you when and how to nutt.

[–]555WeWolf1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'm curious what is your opinion on the book "Your brain on porn"?

[–]salezman124 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I havn't ever read it because it addresses problems that I don't have. I wouldn't want to make any uneducated comments on it so I will just say that I don't have enough information to form an opinion.

[–]Reinhard231 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

YesFap is the biggest load of shit I've ever heard. I never beat my meat and I damn sure ain't gonna do it anytime soon.

The problem is turning your mind into a ball of filth with all this sexual indulgence. It's not good for your mind nor your body nor your soul.

I also used to believe in these harmlessness theories but later realized they are used to fool fools. Fapping literally makes you less of a man. When you don't fap, you have a lot more energy, feel more masculine, and feel more fulfilled in general. Your head is actually clear from all those sexual fantasies.

The whole thing here is to be strong-minded enough to restrain yourself from doing such self-degrading acts. When you wanna fuck, get married and fuck. And don't beat your dick, wasting your precious energy. Don't let anyone tell you you should, because if you actually tried retaining, you would know how amazing it is. And how your previous life was a lie. The real cuck move is indulging without any restrain and becoming deprived when you wanna fuck.

[–]DemFineKnees3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

The amount of ignorance spewed by this comment transcends human stupidity which is quite a feat.

If you are watching porn and you find yourself having unrealistic ideas of how sex works because you are unable to separate fantasy from reality, then you have a problem, but that problem is not the porn its you.

Having unrealistic ideas about sex and being unable to separate fantasy from reality is often due to having LITTLE TO NO EXPERIENCE OF SEX IN REALITY. Peoples' perceptions of things is based on what they're exposed to, if you can't properly separate fantasy from reality, it's because you've been almost exclusively exposed to sex through PORN. That's the issue and it's conditioning. Fantasy effectively becomes reality because it's all you've ever seen.

They also wanna act like watchin' porn is conditioning yourself to be cucked because you are watchin somebody fuck a girl you wanna be fuckin. I feel like thats pretty goddamn weak minded too. If that's your take away then, yet again, you have a problem. But that problem is still not porn, its you.

People get conditioned to what they're exposed to. That's how the brain functions in animals: it adapts and bases its "reality" and normalcy based on what it sees daily. Pavlovian conditioning can and does work on humans. Porn is merely one of the many forms of conditioning to which people can be subject to. Framing it as "weak minded" to fall for porn is absolutely retarded. If you've been spoonfed the idea that porn is a healthy substitute to sex, that games are a safer and better alternative to sports as a mean for entertainment: BRAVO! You've been effectively given easier alternatives to social interactions. You can and often will indulge in them because they're easy to access and human brain SEEKS easy and instant gratification. Failing in having good social interactions will push people back to instant gratification. That's how nerd culture became such a thing and how virtual is replacing real.

If you've been on meds your whole life, going sober at some point will break you because you don't know how the world operates without the lenses added by meds. Similarly, if your only experience of inter-gender relationships comes from soap operas or teen romantic movies, then that will be how you imagine all relationships.

The whole thing here is to not be so fuckin weak minded that you are effected by that sorta thing. When you wanna get out there and fuck, get out there and fuck.

Do you have like 3 functional brain cells that can operate at the same time ? You cannot get out there and fuck IF YOU'VE BEEN AT HOME JACKING OFF AND CANNOT TALK TO A CHICK IF YOUR LIFE DEPENDED ON IT. The whole point of porn is that it's an extremely easy alternative to sexual intercourse. You need to take a look at the demographic that constitutes the NoFap community, it's mainly powernerds. Nerds lack the social skills to get laid.

The real cuck move is lettin another dude tell you when and how to nutt.

Then all of society is cucked because modern society is essentially people conditioned by their social and legal framework to follow certain routines and morals, superseding instincts to some degree and thus forcing their expression into other aspects of life: porn for sexuality, team sports for inter-group competition, etc. We have far less control over what we do than you believe.

Don't get me wrong, the benefits people observe from NoFap are 100% placebo and make no fuckin sense but if that placebo gives them the confidence to actually pursue real relationships because of a renewed sense of confidence then that placebo effectively turned into a benefit which is associated to some degree to NoFap.

1) You need to fucking comprehend that NoFap demographic isn't constituted of regular Joes who fap once a day. A social smoker ain't gonna benefit from quitting smoke like a guy who's been smoking 2+ packs a day from the day he popped from his mother's womb. An average Joe who jerks off once a day ain't gonna feel a benefit from NoFap like a nerd whose only sexual interaction in 15 years of puberty has been with his hand and who's been jacking off 3+ times daily.

2) Read some goddamn books instead of spewing nonsense about weak mind and whatnot. It's been over 50 years since Skinner published the biggest chunk of his work.

[–]XnoContact0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Why doesn't this have more upvotes? It's dangerous that the other guy disregarded the effect of pavlovian conditioning.

[–]Useeikill0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

I agree that I also never liked all the talk on nofap about how porn is demeaning to women and how it is embarassing for a guy to watch it (unless its a clear means to a jizztastic end). The women in porn have already disrespected themselves and in my HUMBLE opinion 97% of guys who can't take their eyes off porn also disrespect themselves(by overdosing on dopamine). Everyone may do as they like but don't you agree there are objective facts that apply to you and me both?

[–]salezman121 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

I mean if we are talking about addictions or overdoing it, sure. I mean overdoing nearly anything is bad. But it just goes back to the entire premise of my post. Porn isn't the problem, somethin else is. In your example its dependency, which in turn, reshapes a man's ideals surrounding sex. It's important to properly identify the problem and not just use what sounds good as the scapegoat.

[–]Useeikill4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

100% the problem needs to be identified verbatum in exact terms, but the same clarity applies to the apriori conditions as well. To start, in my understanding fapping 1x/day especially if a person uses hardcore porn(not that softcore material where theres no explicit nudity) studies and many testimonies have shown that a man's drive, motivation and even strength decrease.

What bothers me about this is that I have a few friends and from what I understand you would agree with them, that say that they still feel at 100% even after fapping. Be honest with me, do you genuinely feel absolutely no energy drop after fapping??

[–]salezman121 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

If you mean immediately after, of course I do. But if you mean to say that I feel less energetic throughout the day, absolutely not.

I don't really think it matters if I have a short term decrease in energy considering I get up long before I actually have to do anything, which is the healthy thing to do anyway. There has never been a time when I jerked off in the morning and it caused me to feel indifferent about having sex that evening.

I don't mean to sound like a broken record, but my original point still applies. The issue is the person, not the porn. If you are the type person who's ability to do any of these things is altered due to consumption, then the problem is you not the porn.

[–]nickdimitrov1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

If you beat your meat every single morning, how do you have a reference experience of how you would feel after some time of abstinence? It's entirely possible that you have a higher-than-average testosterone that drops to average.

[–]Useeikill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Very well said mr. Borisov, I think he should try 30 day nofap and then he should see how he feels and how he reasons

[–]Useeikill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Or I think I can augment your point and we can agree, the problem is a person's specific physiological reaction to cooming, and how it affects them.

[–]Nikelu[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

It depends . If you don't get pussy and you are doing nofap supposedly you increase your test or something and you do nice stuff with that ( take initiatives , have more energy etc).

Now I have tried it, but it's not for me. I have plates etc so I can get it often but I like a good ol fap here and there. It's relaxing. If you keep fapping instead of fucking lets say the last half year or more then maybe you should consider stopping it , unless you don't care about girls and it doesn't interfere with your life.

If I fap in the morning, Ill procrastinate , I'll have a shitty workout, and be in a shitty mood . So I avoid that. At night is ideal after a good day, and only if you are in the mood. No point just whipping it out and opening porn just to do so. Do you get me?

[–]Useeikill0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Thats very reasonable and I do agree. However in my experience fapping even in the evening is also shitty since then, under the same night-noise conditions and blue light exposure as before, the quality of the sleep is busted up, leaving a person feeling groggy and without that spark of energy in the morning when they wake up.

[–]Nikelu[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Never had that feeling mate. Good diet and working out helps a lot. Blue light etc is kinda bs for me, wake up early enough and you will be wasted when you hit the bed at 11-12

[–]Useeikill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

True that blue light also fucks up your ability to straight up go to sleep to a degree but I was talking about how it can impact the quality of sleep itself. Again like I said to some other guy in the thread I am still just as much in the dark as I was before talking with you, how is it that some people are so affected by fapping and others are not? Back when I used to work out a lot more and had an amazing diet because of it one fap would absolutely still bring me down and ruin my workout for that day, even though now that you mentioned it as if back then the knockdown effect of fapping wasn't as severe.

[–]RPDream0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is a very simple post, to the point, and yet very powerful to me. Thank you!

[–]That-Donut0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Girls see me doing interesting shit and they hit me up and say it'd be nice to meet you

What kind of interesting shit do you do? I travel a lot, live at a beach, have a sweet boat and jet skis, motorcycle, jeep, rzr, and i fly planes for fun and i wouldn't attribute any chicks i bang to this. My friends who dont have any of this get FAR more pussy than I do, like a dozen chicks a summer whereas I'd be lucky to bang 4-5 girls in a summer. MAYBE.

[–]Nikelu[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Travelling, working out, climbing mountains/hiking etc, going to concerts , uploading myself singing and having fun trolling,driving , doing voluntary work when possible (#trashtag) / feeding homeless people. All these paints a nice picture. Also helps that I'm 24,shredded,186cm with decent face genes.

Your lifestyle seems sweet btw. Why do you care about banging 12 instead of 5? it's not a numbers game is it?

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[–]Nikelu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Holy shit brother go for it man. People are obsessed with getting likes, getting high and achieving nothing. Quick satisfation. We are fucking zombies with the cellphones. Tomorrow morning, grab a 10 euro cell with just a sim card, keep it with you only for phone calls, you must check instagram and facebook maximum 10-15 minutes right before you go to bed. It's better to just delete them both but yeah, we are similarly aged probably so I get the "need". TBH people (and chicks, they are people too) will respect you more if you answer 5-10 hours later and just be hey I was busy, I was working/studying/busy.

Please go full send man, there are people out there that are good for you , you just need to know how to use each person. There are gonna be mates to push you further , there are gonna be mates that you always laugh together, there are gonna be some unicorns that are gonna be great at both, but find people with the similar drive. And until you do, "isolate". Study, work out, learn new shit, be productive and creative. grab absolute knowledge of whatever you want and ride the life wagon. Hope you have realised at this point in your life that absolutely nothing matters. Chase something you love because that's your inner self asking for it, dont just dream of cars girls and huge mansions. Live the life you want to live. Items and money won't make you happy . True happiness comes from achieving, realising and living your potential, learning new stuff, bonding and meeting with great people. That's my take on it. I personally fucking love cars. I'm on my way of making money, an enterpreneur that sells stuff, I wouldn't mind a Porsche in my garage. Wouldnt mind a Ducati either. Those are toys. And I am a man who wants to play and have fun with these. You could also be happy being a monk eating the same stuff and practising your whatever beliefs. Anyway. And also start reading stoicism ASAP

Also another thing. I stopped doing shit I didnt like with my pals. You guys wanna go for coffee, well I don't. Do you wanna hang around at a lake or a mountain maybe? NO? ok even better ill study home. They wanna be passive let them be. I wanna be active. I wanna go play bowling, ride a horse or whateverthe fuck you want. Alright?

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[–]Nikelu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Alright mate be disciplined and stay hungry. You have a purpose don't disappoint yourself

[–]menoyzoe0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

How did you keep yourself preoccupied before the quarantine?

[–]FanaticMind-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Damn bro you fixed the market!

Compensate for supply shortage by offering a lower price? Nice.

Call it Maroon Pill but too many motherfuckers right here think that going to the gym for a month and waiting 2 hours before texting back makes you a high smv man.

if that's what makes the difference for you, you managed to fuck it up against the odds and you definitely didn't read the sidebar.

[–]Nikelu[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

if that's all you got from the post then lol

[–]imatworkpleasenonsfw0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

i was the biggest clown everywhere there was a woman close to me smh.

[–]Jeviok0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You'll be pleased to know that my life is currently woman-free as I become increasingly more awesome in all my other endeavors.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I quickly realized this after I ghosted this honey I was talking to yesterday.

She would want something and I'd be like I have or I don't have and I would have to be the 🤡🤡 to start the conversation.

I just decided to ghost her last reply Yesterday and she still hasn't Talked to me even till now 😂😂😂

I realized she sees me as a Friend and that's cool,But a Bummer. But I gotta move on with my life.😎😎

[–]JasonStar79-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Some pussy stinks so good though. Can't help myself.



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