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Woman Used Sperm From Oral Sex To Get Pregnant, Gets Child Support

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August 25, 2015
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A short one here:

tl;dr: Woman Used Sperm From Oral Sex To Get Pregnant, Gets Child Support

Main Body: Here's a fucked up story I stumbled upon in TIL

Basic story, a doctor has an affair with physician. They never actually have sex, but she goes down on him. One night she stores the cum in her cheeks, spits it into a test tube, and uses it to impregnate herself. Fast forward two years and she files for child support and fucking wins because: his sperm was given to her as a “gift,” “an absolute and irrevocable transfer of title to property from a donor to a donee,”

Lessons learnt: Keep your jimmy wrapped, take your condoms home with you or make sure she fucking swallows. Some women are just devious, selfish bitches out to separate you from your wallet and will willingly use kids, even ones she conceived in shady circumstances, as weapons against you.


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Title Woman Used Sperm From Oral Sex To Get Pregnant, Gets Child Support
Author mister_barfly75
Upvotes 754
Comments 294
Date 25 August 2015 03:10 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/35853
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3icb3m/woman_used_sperm_from_oral_sex_to_get_pregnant/
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[–]2popthatpill321 points322 points  (62 children) | Copy

Remember: men have no reproductive rights.

[–]5 Endorsed ContributorStayinghereforreal96 points97 points  (58 children) | Copy

You can often request a paternity test, depending on the local laws.

Note that, gentlemen: often. Not always.

Pretty much says it all right there.

[–]Primemale7 points8 points  (57 children) | Copy

Often? Why not always? you could just say I don't believe it's mine or we didn't have sex etc.

[–]csehszlovakze 58 points58 points [recovered] | Copy

If you're in Germany, France or Israel, the results of a paternity test will be ignored and you'll be fined/imprisoned. Fun, eh?

[–]Primemale44 points45 points  (19 children) | Copy

THAT,IS,FUCKING,OUTRAGEOUS.

This essentially gives a woman a free pass, under the guise of ''keeping the families together''

any info on how this came into play?

[–]ioncloud932 points33 points  (5 children) | Copy

Its all for the child's state's benefit

[–]wordjedi 18 points18 points [recovered] | Copy

One of these days they're going to start running bachelors down in the street, arresting them, randomly assigning them a child in the expensive foster care system, and forcing them to pay child support. Virgins, gay men, everybody. Have dick? You must pay.

[–]trpftw0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

The state doesn't benefit. It's feminists that benefit and they go out and vote and pressure politicians. You guys don't.

[–]ioncloud90 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Sure they do! Now YOU have to pay for welfare for that little whelp. They dont have to pay a dime.

[–]trpftw0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The state only cares about welfare because the voters want it.

They care about corporate welfare because corporations want it. Poverty welfare because the middle class and poor want it. feminist welfare because the feminists want it.

[–]pink_ego_box10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's only illegal to do it by yourself outside a court-ordered decision.

In France it's illegal to take someone's DNA by your own initiative and give it to a private company that will analyze it. Court-mandated paternity test are of course authorized under the authority of a judge in a procedure of paternity contestation. If the result show that you're not the biological father you're exempt from any responsibility and alimony and the biological father, if identified, becomes the legal father.

How did this came into play? Bioethics laws that say "maybe companies shouldn't have access to a child's DNA without any regulation on sample and data usage and retention"

Next time read the article you reply to until the last paragraph.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon7 points8 points  (11 children) | Copy

any info on how this came into play?

Because in France, proving paternity when it first became possible (80's I guess) would MAJORLY fuck up the country, due to the ... how can I put it... "war brides"/"war babies" from the 1945 German Invasion.

Also - feminism and legalised open hypergamy. "For the family" (ie for the woman).

It's fucked up - welcome to TRP.

[–]pink_ego_box1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy

You couldn't be farther from the truth. Don't try to pass your opinions as facts.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon-1 points0 points  (7 children) | Copy

You couldn't be farther from the truth. Don't try to pass your opinions as facts.

Do you have any sort of counterpoint, reasoned argument or logic ?

[–]pink_ego_box0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

"war bride bullshit blahblah"

  • Why would the paternity of people who were 40 year old at that point matter?
  • Women who slept with Germans were known. They were publicly shaved and humiliated at the Liberation.
  • Some degree of paternal testing was available since the 1920's with blood typing.

"Also - feminism and legalised open hypergamy. "For the family" (ie for the woman)."

Lol. It's not about women. It's about bioethics. Paternity test are only authorized through court orders, in a judiciary process that involves state-owned labs, and not by shady-ass companies that are not regulated and keep the DNA samples and data indefinitely, like in the US. That's all. It's not a feminist conspiracy, dude. Just a bioethics decision to protect genetic privacy.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon-4 points-3 points  (5 children) | Copy

Why would the paternity of people who were 40 year old at that point matter?

Of course it would matter. It always matters. If it doesn't matter, why make it illegal? They didn't say "oh, but you can do paternity testing after the age of 18 if you're curious, when child support doesn't matter any more". Nope - it's illegal at all ages. For a reason. And that reason is legalised paternity fraud committed by women and supported by the state.

Women who slept with Germans were known. They were publicly shaved and humiliated at the Liberation.

Not all were known, they couldn't possibly be. Not all pregnancies were known. With so much shame at stake, there is an incentive for any woman who suspects she is pregnant to find a French guy to fuck and blame, and do it fast.

Some degree of paternal testing was available since the 1920's with blood typing.

Yes, and it's illegal in France.

Lol. It's not about women. It's about bioethics.... hamster hamster shady companies hamster hamster not a feminist conspiracy hamster hamster bioethics again hamster hamster genetic privacy.

Bioethics - sure, like all the other ethics that doesn't involve biological entities.

This is about ethics and best interests of women. It's only men who want paternity testing, and it's these "male ethics" that are thrown out of the window.

Men have a right to know if the child they are raising and paying for is actually their own. This is a right you are saying they should be denied.

Now you're entitled to your viewpoint lady. You can certainly say "men have no rights to know if they are the father of their supposed children", as and indeed you are.

But don't confuse this with "bioethics" and "privacy" and all the other smokescreens you're putting up, in standard female "distract from the basic argument by throwing shit at the problem in the hope of burying it".

Men have a right to know if the children they are raising and paying for are there own, and for the love of god that should be the fucking end of it.

[–]OldPinkertonGoon0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Germany invaded France in 1940. The US and UK invaded in 1944. It would be my guess that a lot of French kids born during that time did not have French fathers.

[–]unassumingusername70 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

And by 1980 when paternity testing came around, those babies were 36 - 40. Child support ends at 18. I'm not sure why paternity testing is less available in France, but I don't think it has much to do with Nazi war babies.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

Wow that's pathetic, a woman can literally lie and get a check for nearly two decades as a reward, a reward for lying.

It's no wonder simple morals are going out the window

[–]marty2k3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Even if this wasn't women's natural prerogative, society sure as shit is still trying it's do hardest.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hah. In Israel, it really it a competition to see who can out-jew who.

[–]federalfarmer7 11 points11 points [recovered] | Copy

You could be on the hook for a lot of reasons. Your name could be on the birth certificate, for example.

[–]Turkerthelurker30 points31 points  (15 children) | Copy

This is worth highlighting.

Guys, if you put your name on the birth certificate, you are volunteering to be legally responsible for the baby.

If you are going to get a paternity test (and why the fuck would you not?), do it before you sign ANYTHING.

[–]forgtmnot26 points27 points  (14 children) | Copy

If the mother puts your name on the birth certificate, you are legally responsible in a number of states.

[–]MadeSomewhereElse7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

Christ, can I find a list of these states so I can not live there?

[–]2popthatpill2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Texas is probably one of the states.

[–]nillotampoco1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Do you know of any articles or periodicals that discuss these sorts of man-traps?

[–]Hsrock4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

If that's true, why don't the crazy women haphazardly put down the names of rich famous people like Elon Musk, Trump, Steve Jobs, etc. when they don't know the father? I can see something like that setting a precedent, if it were to happen, but why hasn't it yet?

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

Almost certainly because it would be easier for someone with that kind of means to easily squash it in a legal battle.

[–]nillotampoco4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women aren't crazy when it comes down to securing resources for their offspring, women who don't prioritize that have been heavily naturally selected against.

They put their best bet down putting the name of some far & away rich person is just preparing to fail.

[–]forgtmnot0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The articles were posted either here or in men's rights a few months ago. I didn't save the links unfortunately.

[–]NecroticFury0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

its not a legal document binding you if you dispute it. you can sue her as well as the state directly.

[–]Lt_Muffintoes-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy

What's more expensive, 20 years of child support, or a hitman? Hell, do it yourself and make it look like a burglary gone wrong.
Once you've had a paternity test, eliminate the mother, and you can raise your progeny right, preventing the corrupt whore from destroying the kid's soul through singe motherhood

[–]Newdist21 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Cops aren't stupid.

OK, some cops are stupid. But the guys who investigate murders typically are smart enough to take a long hard look at any man who's fucked the murder victim, and especially at her estranged ex who is paying her child support.

[–]Lt_Muffintoes0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The vast majority, over 90%, of crimes go unsolved, and criminals are morons.

[–]Primemale6 points7 points  (14 children) | Copy

Yeah but even so I can think of NO SITUATION where I would pay child support without a paternity test, (outside of a relationship) regardless of what the local law says. America is (particularly) fucked up.

[–]Tingly_Fingers14 points15 points  (13 children) | Copy

Generally you only have 30 days to contest being put on a birthday certificate....and if you didn't know you were named the father? Well now you're fucked.

[–]GainzdalfTheWhey4 points5 points  (10 children) | Copy

So any women I know could file paternity and not let me know and after thirty days in liable to it? There's nothing I can do? What?

[–]Tingly_Fingers6 points7 points  (9 children) | Copy

Some states have laws in place to prevent a mother from lying on. The birth certificate. California is one such state. California law will not allow a father to be named on the birth certificate unless he is present to sign the official document. A lot of states do not do this. Many states allow the mother to just name the father and after the birth certificate becomes an official government document it is hard to overturn and refute. In the time between finding out and going through court trying to prove your NOT the father you will be held responsible for child support. You can be put in jail while going to court fighting the birth document.

[–]GainzdalfTheWhey2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy

After you manage to prove it's fake after being sent to jail, can you sue her and have her go to jail?

[–]BigDiggerNick742 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hahaha no. I mean you could, but you'd probably just end up having to pay her court fees.

[–]Tingly_Fingers0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Honestly that is the extent of my knowledge on the subject. Maybe you could but there's a lot of loop holes in favor of women.

[–]Tingly_Fingers0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Honestly that is the extent of my knowledge on the subject. Maybe you could but there's a lot of loop holes in favor of women.

[–]NecroticFury0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

no women are not held accountable. If you want retribution, sue in family court. With a good lawyer you can take her for a ride but other than that you have no legal recourse.

If you want her dead you'll have to do it with your own hands. If she wants you dead, she can tell someone else to do it. Dont like it? Leave.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No, it's not a criminal case.

You can sue her for monetary damages but if you're paying child support chances are she doesn't have much to give you anyway.

[–]TyPerfect0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

So, lets say I'm going to be a father in CA. I am there for the birth of my child and sign the Birth Certificate. Can I then do a private paternity test and not end up on the hook for the next 18 years?

[–]Tingly_Fingers0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I suppose so since it is your child But you may still be on the hook because you voluntarily signed up for being the kids father. I live in illinois where the mother can put anyone on the birth certificate so I don't know the whole of California paternity law. I just Googled paternity laws.

[–]Primemale1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

So you are saying they can put you on there, without you being notified? then if you are lucky enough to be psychic, you have 30 days to say you didn't fuck this dumb bitch? I would send them a letter back saying you have 30 days to prove I am the father

[–]Tingly_Fingers2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Depends on the state. California doesn't allow this. I replied to another commenter. I'm on mobile so read that. But that shit happens. Google "baby Jessica custody case 1993"

[–]1nzgs25 points26 points  (0 children) | Copy

There are no such things as rights. To acknowledge any right is to deny self-ownership and to defer ownership to the state.

Women do not have "reproductive rights", they have government entitlements.

[–]NoFatChicks882 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

i always laugh my ass off when women complain about their reproductive rights. have to remind them of what you said.

[–]prodigy2throw1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think the real take away here is don't stick your dick in crazy or impoverished women.

[–]transitivecurves 84 points84 points [recovered] | Copy

his sperm was given to her as a “gift,” “an absolute and irrevocable transfer of title to property from a donor to a donee,”

Such fucking bullshit. If what she did was okay because it was a gift, then he should be absolved of what she does with it.

[–]BallisticTherapy82 points83 points  (4 children) | Copy

If I give someone a knife and they kill someone with it, I'm not responsible; but if I give someone and nut and they birth someone with it, I'm on the hook.

So if she used my sample to impregnate a thousand women in a secret lab without my consent or knowledge, I'm responsible for every birth that happens as a result. That doesn't look anything like a property rights issue to me.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock30 points31 points  (3 children) | Copy

So if she used my sample to impregnate a thousand women in a secret lab without my consent or knowledge, I'm responsible for every birth that happens as a result.

Dude, that's diabolical. That's pure evil.

[–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK21 points22 points  (2 children) | Copy

similar but different:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Jacobson

At least seven instances were identified in which Jacobson was the biological father of the patients' children, including one patient who was supposed to have been inseminated with sperm provided by her husband.

DNA tests linked Jacobson to at least 15 such children, and it has been suspected that he fathered as many as 75 children by impregnating patients with his own sperm.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

and he got 5 years for it XD

[–]marty2k16 points17 points  (4 children) | Copy

Notice how this doesn't apply to women? A woman sends you a nude pic, you are not allowed to put it anywhere. That seems much more like a "gift" than some cum in some sluts mouth. Then again, having her nude pictures out there signifies her as a slut and goes against women's main objective, being able to pull this shit works for a woman's objective, so of course it's law.

[–]spicedncoke -1 points-1 points [recovered] | Copy

Because of privacy laws. Other thing being if its someone under 18 than it's considered child porn (and rightly so).

EDIT: You can post nudes but you can not identify her and/or her location

[–]marty2k6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yet when a woman had sex an underage boy and committed statutory rape, they still made him pay child support.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you're wrong and do believe it should be illegal to put a woman's nude pictures to you online, I'm just pointing out the ridiculous lengths governments will go to push their pro-woman, anti-male agenda.

[–]NecroticFury0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

its impossible to argue that men have it anywhere near equal, this whole thing is fucking laughable.

[–]marty2k0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's impossible for men to do it because we naturally think logically. Women have absolutely no problem.

[–][deleted] 2 points2 points | Copy

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[–]Peter_Principle_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No, but the government hasn't found a way to emotionally justify scamming 500 billion dollars out of men every year over horse sales.

[–]HappyScribe68 points69 points  (2 children) | Copy

OT, but by storing the sperm in her cheeks, she's literally hamstering.

[–]libglip1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Man, I practically heard the rimshot when I read that.

But, she's not "literally" hamstering if a literal hamster is not involved somehow. (If it was, I don't wanna know.)

[–][deleted] 53 points54 points  (7 children) | Copy

This reminds me of that movie "Bad teacher", where she says that the NBA players she was hooking up with, would take the used condoms with them.

[–][deleted] 67 points68 points  (6 children) | Copy

They had to, or flush them down the toilet. Because some women fished the condoms out of the trash and impregnated themselves, and the courts still made the men pay CS. The NBA had to put out a letter to all their players about it.

[–]theredspill14 points15 points  (5 children) | Copy

Hell I always take mine with me and I have no where near the smv of a pro athlete

[–]fucktales37 points38 points  (4 children) | Copy

It's not about SMV, it's about your bank account value.

[–]ThrowyMcGruder4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Your bank account doesn't even necesarily come into it.

If a certain woman wants those sweet government benefits, she can fuck an unemployed guy, get pregnant, and get them.

She'll get the benefits and it's up to him to make the child support payments from there.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I understood male SMV to be different then female SMV. It encompass all sorts of features not just how good looking he is. Job, social ability, political power, house, bank account, and appearance....

[–]fucktales0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It does encompass all those things, but in this case the bank account is the only part that matters

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper35 points36 points  (6 children) | Copy

the court rejected that stance, saying his sperm was given to her as a “gift,” “an absolute and irrevocable transfer of title to property from a donor to a donee,” according to the court decision.

Heh. Okay, fine. Then anything she does with it is her responsibility, and he doesn't have to pay a dime.

I'm okay with that. Either sperm becomes her property when I shoot it into her, and she's on the hook, not me... or it remains my property, and she has no right to make it into a child without my permission.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (5 children) | Copy

Seriously this logic makes no sense. If I give a hunting knife to someone as a gift and they stab someone with it, I'm on the hook?

Fucking femnazi judges man...

[–]Redasshole8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

How can an educated person not see Whisper's logic above? I mean, really. They are clever, they must understand that.

[–][deleted] 3 points3 points | Copy

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[–]genericusername3482 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

considering a lot of the fat feminists take to blaming mcdonalds and such for making them fat rather than themselves for eating too much. i would not be surprised to see some of them try to sue for that in the future.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's fat shaming dude, just wow

[–]zxDanKwan32 points33 points  (2 children) | Copy

Interesting, though not surprising... if you read enough of the comments, you find women saying things like "he willingly had sex with her at the time, and gave her his sperm. You can't retroactively revoke consent."

Why didn't our ancestors ride hamsters into battle? They are ferocious and cunning beasts, capable of insane reality-warping feats.

[–]NotUpToAnythingGood20 points21 points  (1 child) | Copy

Correction: You cannot retroactively revoke consent unless you are a woman.

This has been shown by multiple instances in the news and media.

[–]Renoir_242 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Also in the courtroom unfortunately.

[–]Tarnsman4Life133 points134 points  (10 children) | Copy

Are we to the point where I have to grab a woman by the throat after I am done face fucking her and make sure she swallows like some defiant child trying to cheek a pill?

People wonder why men hate the idea of getting married and having kids.

[–][deleted] 46 points47 points  (0 children) | Copy

you have stroke it down her throat like when you give a dog pills

[–]BlackHeart8911 points12 points  (5 children) | Copy

I actually push their heads down or have them continue blowing me for a bit after I cum to make sure its a done deal. But I suppose choking them might work. Be careful of that grip though.

[–]jerry_rigger7 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy

Wait, are we not suppose to choke them?

[–]BlackHeart892 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Lol good point.

Guy: cums and chokes her till she swallows yeahhhh, you like that? thinks to himself, "you better swallow bitch! You won't catch me slipping"

Woman: I love him!

[–]jerry_rigger4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Have you been watching through my bedroom window?

[–]Talon12122 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I've noticed you perform better when you have an audience.

[–]jerry_rigger1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I do. Thanks, BTW, I appreciate it.

[–]jerry_rigger3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Are we to the point where I have to grab a woman by the throat after I am done face fucking her and make sure she swallows like some defiant child trying to cheek a pill?

Wait... Are you saying this isn't normal?

If this is wrong then, good sir, I do not want to be right.

[–][deleted] 63 points64 points  (80 children) | Copy

This is why I'm getting a vasectomy on my first paycheck.

[–]RageLife42 points43 points  (29 children) | Copy

Still waiting on that vasalgel.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (28 children) | Copy

I want something permanent.

[–]RedPillMat20 points21 points  (23 children) | Copy

Vasalgel supposedly lasts easily 10 years, and is a quick injection. That's a long time. I'd have no problem getting a quick injection every 8 years to be safe.

[–]grewapair20 points21 points  (9 children) | Copy

You'll be 100 years old by the time the FDA approves it, if it works at all.

[–]1aguy0149 points50 points  (3 children) | Copy

Imagine the lawsuits for PTSD when women unknowingly date infertile men.

[–]jerry_rigger2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

How the fuck would that work?

I mean I have no doubt they'd try bi it doesn't make sense to me.

[–]tallwheel0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hell, that's like, practically rape, amirite? /s

[–]Ovadox5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

All they need to do is legalize it in one country. If they drag ass on approving it here it's black market time bitches.

[–]SaiHottari-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

An equivalent injection called RISUG (if I remember correctly) has been in use in India for quite some time now. Vasalgel is based on RISUG.

[–]Ovadox2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Based on the Wikipedia page it seems to still be in clinical trials.... since 2011.

[–]RedPillMat5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Point 1. I don't live in the US (thank fucking god).

Point 2. Even if I did, I can always travel to a country where it's approved Kappa

[–]suuupreddit1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

if it works at all.

What are you talking about? It does work.

[–]csehszlovakze1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

They also forget that it can be reversed and you can still freeze sperm if the reversion fails. Too bad it's illegal here so I have to get abroad first.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

It's also a safeguard against myself, I try to be RP and MGTOW af but I know that if the "right girl"(no such thing) walked into my life, my lizard brain might take control and direct me into making some dumb decisions. For me, a vasectomy is an ultimatum, a private statement to myself declaring that I will never have kids or get cuckolded!

[–]Redasshole0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Exactly. Never under estimate women. They can fuck with your brain to no extent. But anyway, with time you will be less and less likely to get fooled.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, plus there is that dangerous chemical cocktail that flows and makes them seem perfect even though they could be a total wreck. Scary stuff!

[–]Lumby6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

It's been two years since I got mine. Totally worth it. My recommendation would be to get it at a place that specializes in men's health.

[–]1legedu5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I got lucky. They brought in a 70+ year old doc that only does vasectomies. Barely felt a thing.

[–]ChiangRai10 points11 points  (18 children) | Copy

Got min scheduled for Sept 1. Pretty excited. Reminds me. Gotta pick up some more frozen veggies peas and corn for the jiblets.

[–]wdarea514 points5 points  (16 children) | Copy

Hopefully they hook you up with some oxymorphone or something good.

[–]fortifiedoranges5 points6 points  (13 children) | Copy

I was told on hear that it's rather painless, just a sore feeling for fora couple of days. I think it's a same day thing with just local anesthetic.

[–]PanzerBatallion22 points23 points  (3 children) | Copy

Mine has been daily pain for 4 months now.

Listen carefully kids - nothing is risk free. For 990 out of 1000 guys, their vasectomies will go fine and they will be back to work in a couple of days.

For a small percentage though, they will be impotent after. And for another small percentage they will have something called post vasectomy pain syndrome that the doctors don't know what causes it and don't know how to stop it. They 'think' it will go away on its own. Eventually. But that's all they can do.

Source - vasectomy in april. In the ER the weekend after. Ejaculated blood a month later, and 3 urologists later, still no closer to understanding why I'm in daily pain.

TL:DR - Everything you do is a risk. Understand them fully before you jump.

[–]1aguy0121 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy

And that's why I don't want people slicing my balls open.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thank you for shedding light on the dangers of vasectomies, I've read a lot of horror stories when I was looking into it. Make sure you get your testosterone tested, low T is common with it.

[–]onbakeplatinum7 points8 points  (7 children) | Copy

I had a vasectomy 8 years ago and can tell all about the experience.

They put you in the abortion chair. The one with the stirrups that holds your legs apart. He also tapes your dick to your pubes so he won't have to deal with it swinging around when he's working.

I was afraid of the shot. They stick the needle right at the base of your dick where smooth meets wrinkles. It was actually no big deal whatsoever.

What I didn't know is that they use a clamp to expose the vas deferens. The clamp causes that sick to your stomach balls feeling you get when you sit on a bike wrong. You just have to deal with it until he's done. He does this for each testicle.

After he was done, he untaped my dick. I was stuck in that uncomfortable ball feeling the entire time and was also afraid during the surgery. I looked down and my dick was so shrunked that if the tape wasn't there, it would have gone inverted.

The next day, I took off the bandage. There was a huge bruise on my ball sack that hurts just thinking about. They say you can go to work within 3 days. This is not true if you go down stairs. Each step is like a kick in the nuts. Getting in and out of the car is also very scary and painful. Again with that sick to the stomach feeling.

Finally I got over it. I don't even know where he cut in, the entry point is hidden within the wrinkles. I have had no side effects and am glad I had it done.

[–]Kenny_Twenty10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Jesus. Reading that made me cringe.

[–]boredepression0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Your doc musta sucked. I was up no problem the next day walking round. Never even needed any of the oxy.

[–]user_none2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Agreed. I walked right out of the doc's office, went home and a few hours later the wife (ex-wife now) and I had sex. Crazy, right?

I've been snipped since July '08 and to this day I believe it's one of the best decisions I've made.

[–]Elodrian0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I walked right out of the doc's office, went home and a few hours later the wife (ex-wife now) and I had sex.

/facepalm

Did the doctor not tell you that you won't be sterile until your plumbing has been flushed thoroughly? How much would it suck to get yourself snipped then immediately go and knock up your wife...

[–]user_none0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Had sex. Did not ejaculate in her.

Yes, the doctor explained the whole leftover swimmers thing, and cumming around 20 times before going in for a test to check for their presence.

[–]ChiangRai0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks all for the replies. Forgot I'd posted this. Yea I'd read about the small percentage of pain cases and fortunately I work at a desk in my home so commute is non existent and I can take care of my guys while they heal. Entertaining stories all ty

[–]1Sir_Distic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's changed Alot. Mine was two small incisions. One in each side of the sack. Like pea size. 1 Valium Pill. Made me give no Fucks.I even hit on the Dr's nurse and she was 5 months preggo. I didn't know. Or care.

Two weeks of pain but I had it done on Thursday and back to work Monday.

I still get tingles at the incision sites when I shiver from cold. Like a tiny electric shock. Kinda neat.

But took 20 minutes. Easy.

[–]bitterRedpills0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

My supervisor had a vasectomy after his third kid.

Something went awry and after a day or so at home and in agonising pain each of his bollocks swelled up to 'twice the size of a tennis ball' and his sack went strange colours.

Went back to his doctor who basically threw him into an ambulance for emergency surgery.

Fucking blasts the shit out of his surgeon but has 0 regrets about getting it done.

[–]vezokpiraka4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

I still want to have children when I'm older. And a vasectomy is way too permanent. What if when I'm 40 I decide I really want to have kids?

[–]tropicalpolevaulting5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sperm banks. I know it's not manly to impregnate your woman with a turkey baster but it beats getting ass raped with alimony from a one night stand where you were too drunk to cum on her face...

[–]Ball_shan_glow0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

And how messed up is that, that it has to be done in self defense. What if you actually want kids later?

[–]ThisBozoAbove -6 points-6 points [recovered] | Copy

It's interesting that this meme has successfully propagated on TRP, despite being clearly maladaptive by almost any metric - other than TRP's limited scope of pleasure sex. This mind virus actually convinces men to willingly kill their own genetic line. It preys on male innate hedonistic desire to infect the host who shortsightedly gives up his most important asset: his ability to reproduce.

This vasectomy virus is similar - though much less extreme - to another male parasitic mind-virus that infects it's host with a promise of future hedonism but actually tricks it's host into acting in the most maladaptive way imaginable: Jihad.

[–]LetsGoAllTheWhey0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

vasalgel

You're overlooking the group of men that I'm a part of. I have a child, all the children I want, and I don't want to get tricked or trapped into having any more. For me, and men like me, this makes all the sense in the world.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Who cares? Those who don't procreate will dissapear from the genetic pool and things will get back to normal. A genetic line is of zero value to an individual.

[–]steviamies 146 points146 points [recovered] | Copy

That shit should be classified as sexual assault.

[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar53 points54 points  (0 children) | Copy

At least one man has gone to jail for poking holes in a condom.

He was convicted of -- you guessed it! -- sexual assault.

[–]nuesuh118 points119 points  (4 children) | Copy

More like fraud... I don't see how this is sexual assault.

[–]Hydris14 points15 points  (2 children) | Copy

Because telling a women you are wearing a condom and having sex with her when you aren't wearing one can get you arrested for rape.

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's a bit of a stretch, but you could make the case that women are so terrified of sexual assault because it may force them to have a child against their will. Well, this too forces someone to have a child against their will.

Viewed in this light, you could see "oops I forgot my pill and got pregnant, tee hee" as sexual assault too.

[–]Peter_Principle_27 points28 points  (2 children) | Copy

Only if you expect feminists to be consistent.

[–]2Overkillengine14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy

I expect them to consistently try to screw men over, regardless of facts or reason.

[–]Peter_Principle_4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I expect you to not be disappointed with that expectation.

[–]25russianbear257 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

so much equality around us!

[–]bacdafucoff14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

That is some crazy value.

It's hilarious he wouldn't put his dick in her. It scandalous what she did and it's criminal what the court did.

That woman and judge should be facing some repercussions.

[–]TheRealMouseRat11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy

"All gone?"

"Aaaall goooone"

[–]darthskids9 points10 points  (8 children) | Copy

At the point that that happens, off she goes to a shallow grave in the desert.

[–]ProspectiveQuant2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy

I always wonder how that doesn't happen more often...

At that point doesn't it make financial sense to pay some guys to take her out there?

And by pulling something like this I imagine it removes all negative feelings even a normal person might have for killing someone else.

I, personally, would not hesitate to higher some goons to make a woman disappear in such circumstances.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

This is the kind of thing you shouldn't say on the internet, or in public. It's okay to think it, but maybe not so safe to say it.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Probably fine to say on the internet unless your reddit username is your full name.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I meant if he were ever in that situation, and was a subject, they would check his browser history using his ISP.

[–]ProspectiveQuant0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Probably watching too much CSI...

But who knows I guess.

[–]NecroticFury0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Not watching enough news. Its the NSA and their ability to invalidate your privacy that you need to be worrying about.

[–]ProspectiveQuant0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I haven't been arrested yet...

[–]darthskids0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think it's the mindset. She pretty reasonably believes the sperm donor isn't going to do shit so she's happy to pull that stunt. I don't think she would've done the same thing if it had been a different guy. Lesson learned, don't let women push you around or think that they're in charge.

[–]andres78327 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

If you wear a condom, just go to the sink, rinse it, toss in trash. You hate the smell of old condoms if she asks why, then start looking for someone else if she starts acting fishy...

[–]Nebulose115 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

If roles were reversed this would be called rape. A guy going down on a chick and spitting in a shot o'cum with the intent to get her pregnant. Especially if it's some other dudes seed.

[–]Neuermann7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

"Mommy, where do babies come from?"

Well dear, when a woman loooves a man's money very much, but doesn't know how to make him stay with you, she squirrels him by storing his nut in your cheeks, then you take a test-tube and impregnate yourself. Then you wait two years and take the man to court.

[–]JohnnyElBravo22 points23 points  (10 children) | Copy

This is like saying, don't get out of your house because you might get robbed or hit by a car. This is incredibly unlikely to happen, much more real dangers from unprotected blowjobs include: Herpes, hepatitis or straight up AIDS. So, either use a condom or be more selective. Women using your sperm for child support is the least of your issues.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy

but...flush your condoms and get rid of the sperm

[–]MightyYetGentle5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

ill be doing this but still think this is gonna suck for a lot of plumbers. rip

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (5 children) | Copy

The likelihood of contracting HIV as the recipient of a blow-job is very low indeed. There's nearly no chance, although a more realistic figure is about 1 in 50,000 per blow-job, and that obviously only applies when the person giving has HIV. So, you need to be unlucky enough to first meet somebody who is HIV positive (1 in 100, probably less in developed parts of the world?), and then be unlucky enough to be infected (1 in 50,000ish).

Sperm-jacking should probably be higher on your list of concerns.

[–]ProspectiveQuant0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

1 in 100? No fucking way that many people have HIV... maybe in Somalia I guess? But in a place like the USA??

[–]JohnnyElBravo0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Thanks for the stats. I always thought that, even though HIV is unlikely, other diseases are likely to be transmitted by blowjob. So I always use condoms for oral. Does anyone know what are the most common diseases to get from bjs?

[–]MUSTY_illegal_shit 10 points10 points [recovered] | Copy

How the fuck do you cum from a blow job through a condom? How do you even stay hard?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Gonorrhoea, Herpes and Syphilis are the three you need to be most careful of. Gonorrhoea is one that doesn't always present in women, in terms of symptoms, so the woman on the end of your penis might not know she has it. Men, on the other hand, generally do have symptoms.

[–]holybad8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

the likelihood of my school burning down was incredibly low too but that didn't stop the state from demanding a fire extinguisher be in every dam hallway and classroom now did it?

[–]fucktales4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

No one gets AIDS from a blowjob. You're more likely to get struck by lightning twice right after winning the lottery.

[–]pcadrian 40 points40 points [recovered] | Copy

As a doctor, he can easily relocate to a different country, work there, and leave the bitch hanging.

[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar10 points11 points  (6 children) | Copy

He got hit for $800/month. For a working doctor, that's not atrocious, and almost certainly not worth expatriating.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

Holy shit, maybe I've been working minimum wage for too long but $800 a month is fucking insane.

[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar9 points10 points  (4 children) | Copy

That's about 10 G's a year, or 15 G's before taxes. If you're a physician making $130,000, it's not the end of the world.

Now, if you're a minimum wage worker earning $25,000/year, losing 10 G's of that would be life-ending.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Not the end of the world but after taxes loans etc etc it's still not fun.

[–]Elodrian0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Is that all doctors make in the US?

[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Depends on your specialty, but yes. A brain surgeon, for instance, could make upwards of $250k. A resident, on the other hand, starts at about $60k.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That's pretty common for doctors without specialties.

[–]1996398 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy

That's not how MD's work at all dude. He would have to be accepted to a residency training program in the other country and complete years of training before being allowed to practice.

[–]ProspectiveQuant3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

That is very weird. Why isn't an MD globally transferable?... Is medicine that different country to country?...

[–]Elodrian2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yes. For example, in England homeopathy works. That's why it receives government funding.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (9 children) | Copy

Do you have any idea what you are talking about?? the answer is no, just in case

and if you think this is either easy or logistically doable, please tell me how. wow.

[–]DannyDemotta2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy

Wow, indeed, what a useful fucking post. By you i mean.

I especially liked the part where you bothered to suggest he might be able to move to third-world countries A, B and C but that more Developed countries like X, Y, and Z wouldnt work because they wouldnt allow him to dodge US child support law.

Thank you for taking the time to do all that glorious research and not to just be a cunt.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (7 children) | Copy

" As a doctor ".

Unless you are a US physician his is where you shut your trap.

I don't need to do the research as you so eloquently suggest. I am aware of student loan laws that he most likely has and that given the current state of medicine , medical pay structure and ability to self support in those countries as a foreign physician.
I am also aware that given his likely loan burden that can't go away with something as simple as relocation to almost any country the inability to support himself in that situation.

So your one liner just showed assumption after assumtion regarding doctors.

Good job on assumptions. Great job thinking before rancid shit leaves your mouth.

[–]CNileDotA1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Wow you're an angry cunt. Calm the fuck down.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

yes I can see why you would say that. Arrogance and anger did get me pretty far in life.

[–]DannyDemotta0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

What are "those countries", you fucking autist?

You sound like an idiot, insisting on generalizing and bushitting instead of getting SPECIFIC.

You dont get to claim a position of authority when you havent done any goddamned research and are just shooting off at the mouth. We have countries that wont extradict motherfucking child rapists, and you sit there like a belligerent incel and insist there isnt a country on earth that wouldnt take a Doctor in?

Fucking shitstain.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I didn't say they wont take a doctor in.
so that its clear, in most countries you have to go through their vetting process ( residency, language exams, etc and then comparably shit salary to US physicians.) in the meanwhile credit agencies / banks from which you get loans for school dont go away.

I am not inclined to give you a fucking list because if you are curious you can do the research yourself. I did a long time ago and ruled out most first world countries where I would like to live as possible due to salary disparity and the fact that I would need to get "educated" again for years before earning a similar position to here.

Just because they wont extradite child rapists, due to the fact that the crime did not occur on their land, doesnt mean that they will welcome and pay most US docs.

and I am being general because asswipe I was responding to a general statement that a doc can just "get up and go"

your inability to hold a conversation without saying deep and meaningful shit like shitstain and incel tells me more than I need.

my qualifications : US trained MD who has worked in other countries and has field experience with the process.

whats yours?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

again I asked a question : tell me about the logistics of how its done. Educate me oh wise one

[–]rtf111 0 points0 points [recovered] | Copy

Most doctors are arrogant quacks.

[–]fukewe1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah, Not so easy to do. He might be able to go to Canada but just beacuse you're a doctor doesn't mean you can just work in any country in the world

American citizen and Medical student in Sweden ;)

[–]Hamilton950B1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I know a few people who were doctors in their native countries and are driving cab or similar in the US because the license to practice medicine does not transfer.

[–]jaimewarlock0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

My thought exactly. In fact, I would consider being a doctor to be the best profession for finding work in another country.

Even if his pay dropped, his standard of living would probably go way up.

[–]hikiru4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

As a welder, I have to professionally disagree. Tradesmen are valued world over.

[–]razorwan3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

This sounds weird-- I thought sperm die quickly in an environment like the mouth which is slightly acidic and has a number of enzymes working on it.

How could this have worked unless she like instantly spit it into a test tube?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

The mouth is actually slightly alkaline

[–]razorwan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Saliva is alkaline, but I was under the impression that the average mouth is slightly acidic (though I guess it ultimately depends on what you've eaten/drank)

[–]Readleavesbluesguy3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Phillips sued Irons, claiming he has had trouble sleeping and eating and has been haunted by “feelings of being trapped in a nightmare,” court papers state. Irons responded that her alleged actions weren’t “truly extreme and outrageous” and that Phillips’ pain wasn’t bad enough to merit a lawsuit. The circuit court agreed and dismissed Phillips’ lawsuit in 2003.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/7024930/ns/health-sexual_health/t/sperm-gift-keeps-giving/#.Uu_svxaulEA

[–]TheDialecticParadox0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

"Dafuq you whining about boi? Be a man and suck it up!"

Seriously this made me want to punch a hole in my screen. Men are pretty much fucking spat on if they try and engage in any sort of claim for sympathy, even if it's well deserved.

[–]jace810 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The part about the "the 5 year old boy, how would he feel if he knew his FATHER was ill because of his birth".... ARE YOU FUCKING FOR REAL? How would he feel when he finds out his mother was so incredibly devious that she spat cum into a tube then shoved it into herself to deliberately get herself knocked up to fuck over his father.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Goddamn this makes me want Vasalgel ASAP.

Or perhaps I should just get snipped... Not really my favorite option.

[–]bea5tly10 points11 points  (18 children) | Copy

Vasectomy is key. Never trust a women with birth control. And if you use condoms make sure to rinse them out in the sink afterwards and take them with you. The laws are to shitty against males you need to take precautions.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (9 children) | Copy

you do know many condoms come with spermacide right?

They do a pretty good job of killing them

[–]grewapair2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

you do know many condoms come used to come with spermacide right?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

you can't buy it in a tube anymore, or have the condom pre lubed?

Don't make me feel old, why in gods name would they not be available. I can pick them up like that, but the handful at work if I want

[–]grewapair4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

You can still buy it in a tube, but it irritates the vaginal lining causing more urinary tract infections and a higher rate of transmission of STDs, particularly AIDS.

So the condom manufacturers all dropped it, in spite of the fact that the studies that pounded it were from prostitutes using it many times per day. I think there was also an issue that it didn't really make much difference in contraception. They were originally added because it was thought they protected against HIV, but that turned out not to be the case.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Whatever. I eat gluten, I like saturated fats, and I won't worry about simple shit.

If it's available, use it. it's there for a reason. If the girl you're with gets irritation because you're jon #5 that day, then it's not my problem

[–][deleted] 7 points7 points | Copy

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[–]phillip420692 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

I usually use a mixture of bleach and ammonia. Bleach does the job though

[–]Enchantelope8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

Bleach and ammonia gives you the authentic smell of WW1 trench warfare.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Adding tabasco or bleach is a pretty good safeguard. If you are just going out the door and you see your girl running past you down the street naked and yelling, it should give you a clue.

[–]OrpheusV1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I use flashbang hot sauce, it's really more effective (shit's like 10x hotter than ghost peppers)

[–]my_sfw_alias4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Or just be poor. Aint nobody trying to steal my little guys for a nonexistant paycheck.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The paycheck will exist, or you will go to prison.

[–]zag830 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Is there something wrong with flushing them?

[–]Workformoney1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Not good on your septic system, I suppose.

[–]Papahoff253 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Used to do plumbing in high school with a friend's dad, many a condom were found in clogged pipes.

[–]SupALupRT0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

just rinse em out and chuck in the trash, thats what I do

[–]JerkyMcGee2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I didnt even know this was possible. I thought that once sperm was exposed to air and a certain temperature that it starts to die.

[–]3rt414 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is a myth that will put you in trouble. Sperm is a bitch.

[–]1Sir_Distic2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Vasectomy. Winning all the way down her throat.

[–]RedSugarPill2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well, I guess it's time to get comfortable with snowballing.

[–]shadowq82 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

So a woman brought a life in this world through cheap methods, just to have child support...

I bet her kid is really gona love his/her mom.. WOW MOM YOU HAD ME THROUGH A BLOW JOB JUST SO YOU CAN GET PAYCHECKS ?

anyways anyone got sources on how authentic that story is?

[–]unassumingusername71 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It'll be the first thing to come up if the kid ever Google's his mom's name.

[–]NineInchPitchfork2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

This is an older case: Phillips v Irons, 883 N.E.2d 1151 (2005) that adopted a treatment of sperm as property approach. Many other courts have viewed this situation from a contractual perspective, i.e. did the man intend or risk that his sperm would be used for procreation? That approach leads to more favorable results for men, for example:

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/pa-supreme-court/1033446.html

If you are concerned about this sort of thing, the use of a spermicide within the condom would assist. For blowjobs, I guess you could make sure she has a drink of some liquid prior to leaving your sight. Fuck Illinois and that stupid precedent.

[–]FarmerWolfie6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Illinois. Explains everything. She bought the verdict. Probably had to suck some more cock for best results.

[–]etemplin0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

As a male Illinois resident, fuck that woman and fuck the court system and crook county. But figuratively fuck the woman of course. Don't want to be giving my entire paycheck away

[–]MisterMojoMan1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You know society is in deep shit when actual news stories start to become confused with The Onion news stories.

[–]xaphody1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Should be considered rape. He didn't give consent!

[–]theobro1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is one of my worst nightmares.

[–]squirtmasterd1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Didn't she maintain that they also had sex, and that the child was convinced normally?

[–]MrShoeguy1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

If the sperm was a gift then it was her sperm, which makes her the father. But who gives a fuck?

[–]foldpak1111 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That description is the reason I give up.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy

It's a good story, and a worst case scenario.

Keep in mind, this is the top 1% of crazy, and no one in here will experience anything like this. More likely, you'll get your very standard hypergamy... By nature, women are not going to go too far outside the norm. It's a good story to knock your unicorn off it's pedestal, but I would probably not use this example for your MAP.

The lesson here is solid, do your due diligence. The example? Not so much.

remember, IUD's are there, and they are hands down, the closest you get to the snip. No forgotten pills, no muted mood swings based on the pill, basically removing human error

[–]RageLife4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

Keep in mind, this is the top 1% of crazy, and no one in here will experience anything like this.

Don't we have like 100,000 users on this subreddit or something?

I think someone in here might experience something like this.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

I think someone in here might experience something like this.

I did with one of my first serious gf's, back when I used to think that was a good idea

I fucked her in the ass one day after class, went home. The next day she's happy and tells me like it's a funny story how she waited for some cum to come out of her ass so she could put it in her pussy and we could have a baby

from that day forth, I knew bitches be cray.

[–]2Overkillengine1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Jesus, weapons grade crazy. High risk of getting a UTI or worse doing that just to try baby trapping someone.

[–]OrpheusV1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't we have like 100,000 users on this subreddit or something

Top 0.1% might be realistic, I don't think AWALT applies as much here, this is some next-level shit. Actually, it does. I rescind the previous statement about that.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

1 in a million. You can win big putting all your money on 00 in roulette, doesn't mean it's smart to plan for it

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

no one in here will experience anything like this

i did, i wrote it in the other reply to you

you may not experience my story or the OP story, but the point is they will do some crazy shit at some point which will blow your mind and take you by surprise if you're not expecting it. Whether it's claiming rape, trying to say she was hit by you, poking holes in condoms, etc

They do insane shit. AWALT

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

yeah, a worse case scenario. I've seen my share of crazy, but this is an outlier, or it wouldn't be news.

Take heed, take precautions, but the guys in here talking about bleaching their condoms are missing the point, just CYA

[–]no_usernames_wtf 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Not so fast here with the "safety" of IUDs. You know that with a little effort they can be removed by the girl. Google it and I'd say never under any circumstances trust women with anything.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I trust my ability to vett crazy.

Someone willing to do these things are crazy. If she's not on a pedestal, and you are observant, you'll see red flags.

Even cheaters give very clear warning signs. Its just unicorn syndrome has guys hamstering it away

[–]lantern550 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

fuck no, don't give them any ideas

[–]AaronKClark0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Or just get a vasectomy. Problem Solved.

[–]BlackHeart890 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I recently started this thing where I tell women I just stock on the weekends and go to school.

The reason for this is because I don't want them thinking, "Ooooh. He has money! Beta bucks potential!"

Its brand new, so I don't know how it'll work for me given my situation.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

And now I'm an incel again, this time by choice.

[–]valtazar0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I once heard something similar happened to some NBA player on All-Star Weekend. They've done the deed, he dropped the condom in the bin and walked away. Woman took the condom from the bin, extracted the sperm, took it to a fertility clinic and you can guess the rest of the story. Gold-digging bitch got off scot-free, of course. It wasn't an isolated case either. It went that far that the League had to issue a warrning for players to flush the used condom down the toilet after one night stands on the road. This fucking world...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There is a precedent in the legal system that a criminal is not supposed to PROFIT from a crime. But of course with womyyynnn that goes out the window.

[–]bluedrygrass0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That's like the most retarded sentence i think i've ever heard of.

Like, i don't even, uh... what the actual fuck?! It breaks like a gazillion ethical stances.

The judge that came out with that monstruosity would easily find a way to demonstrate right all the most devious things that happened in history, Mao, Pol Pot, the nazis. Easy stuff, compared to this one, on the logical plane.

After this, there's nothing true, and nothing false. Seriously, if you can spin around facts, rights, centuries of legal and human common sense like that, nothing is true anymore, and nothing is false.

"The sleep of reason produces monsters."

[–]bama79rolltide0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

My father has paid over $100,000 in tax free money in child support.

Had my vasectomy last Easter weekend. No kids for this guy.

[–]Sour_J0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Why not just flush the condom down the toilet?

[–]PeluzaHT0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Not wise. Sometimes they do come back. Happened to me when I was a teenager, and know what? My mother found it. Just throw away what´s inside, and you´re totally sure it´s ok.

[–]Hamilton950B0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She is apparently not a very good doctor, has one-star reviews: healthgrades.com

[–]themanwhosaid 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

So has anyone actually brought this story up with any women? I mean seriously if you have what were their responses? If you haven't what do you think the response would be?

Operating off the premise that your genetic material is something you created you should be entitled to it. Anyone know the laws regarding the sale or use of eggs? If the same laws don't apply to men then it can be argued that we could literally be stripped of our own creation and therefore our own property.

"But a women would never do anything like this" right? Wrong! Look blue pillers, no one is saying all women pull this shit. However that's not to say that some women do. Honestly if I were to bring this up in conversation with a feminist they would outright deny a women would actually do it. The fucking moral high ground women get is astonishing.

[–]PeluzaHT0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I did. They all told me it´s impossible as semen can´t be preserved well. None of them told me "hey that´s fucked up" first. That was probably the third or fourth sentence they said... if they said it at all.

[–]radicaldreameredward 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Is this a joke? Seriously, this is a joke right?

In reality this situation would not be over until that woman is legally obligated to take full responsibility for her actions.

[–]bumbuff0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's a real story. During court she said, "He's lying about only doing oral". So it comes down to he-said, she-said. It's stupid. The court won't be able to find ANY evidence to support the oral-only relationship. Sadly, it comes down to "does your dna match?"

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Now I can't even get a bareback BJ? For fucks sake.

[–]Neuermann0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If only we could get DRM protection on our sperm.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This makes me want a vasectomy. Never know when a hamster will try to cash in.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Nothing is safe but vasectomy.

[–]thereddespair0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Why a doctor would have to do this is beyond me. I wouldnt think its about the money. If it was some sick scientific experiment to see if it would work, I guess I can get that. Does say its an affair, so just to screw him over?

Crazy people everywhere

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I might be naive but does this shit only happen in the USA?

I'm in Asia so I'm safe from this... Right?

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[–]Philhelm-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

It's a woman's nature, so if this upsets you you haven't really swallowed the pill. /s

What a cunt, not to mention the cunts within the court system.



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