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| Title | Woman Used Sperm From Oral Sex To Get Pregnant, Gets Child Support |
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| Author | mister_barfly75 |
| Upvotes | 754 |
| Date | 25 August 2015 03:10 PM UTC (4 years ago) |
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Remember: men have no reproductive rights.
You can often request a paternity test, depending on the local laws.
Note that, gentlemen: often. Not always.
Pretty much says it all right there.
Often? Why not always? you could just say I don't believe it's mine or we didn't have sex etc.
If you're in Germany, France or Israel, the results of a paternity test will be ignored and you'll be fined/imprisoned. Fun, eh?
THAT,IS,FUCKING,OUTRAGEOUS.
This essentially gives a woman a free pass, under the guise of ''keeping the families together''
any info on how this came into play?
Its all for the
child'sstate's benefitIt's only illegal to do it by yourself outside a court-ordered decision.
In France it's illegal to take someone's DNA by your own initiative and give it to a private company that will analyze it. Court-mandated paternity test are of course authorized under the authority of a judge in a procedure of paternity contestation. If the result show that you're not the biological father you're exempt from any responsibility and alimony and the biological father, if identified, becomes the legal father.
How did this came into play? Bioethics laws that say "maybe companies shouldn't have access to a child's DNA without any regulation on sample and data usage and retention"
Next time read the article you reply to until the last paragraph.
Because in France, proving paternity when it first became possible (80's I guess) would MAJORLY fuck up the country, due to the ... how can I put it... "war brides"/"war babies" from the 1945 German Invasion.
Also - feminism and legalised open hypergamy. "For the family" (ie for the woman).
It's fucked up - welcome to TRP.
Wow that's pathetic, a woman can literally lie and get a check for nearly two decades as a reward, a reward for lying.
It's no wonder simple morals are going out the window
Even if this wasn't women's natural prerogative, society sure as shit is still trying it's do hardest.
Hah. In Israel, it really it a competition to see who can out-jew who.
You could be on the hook for a lot of reasons. Your name could be on the birth certificate, for example.
This is worth highlighting.
Guys, if you put your name on the birth certificate, you are volunteering to be legally responsible for the baby.
If you are going to get a paternity test (and why the fuck would you not?), do it before you sign ANYTHING.
If the mother puts your name on the birth certificate, you are legally responsible in a number of states.
Yeah but even so I can think of NO SITUATION where I would pay child support without a paternity test, (outside of a relationship) regardless of what the local law says. America is (particularly) fucked up.
Generally you only have 30 days to contest being put on a birthday certificate....and if you didn't know you were named the father? Well now you're fucked.
There are no such things as rights. To acknowledge any right is to deny self-ownership and to defer ownership to the state.
Women do not have "reproductive rights", they have government entitlements.
i always laugh my ass off when women complain about their reproductive rights. have to remind them of what you said.
I think the real take away here is don't stick your dick in crazy or impoverished women.
Such fucking bullshit. If what she did was okay because it was a gift, then he should be absolved of what she does with it.
If I give someone a knife and they kill someone with it, I'm not responsible; but if I give someone and nut and they birth someone with it, I'm on the hook.
So if she used my sample to impregnate a thousand women in a secret lab without my consent or knowledge, I'm responsible for every birth that happens as a result. That doesn't look anything like a property rights issue to me.
Dude, that's diabolical. That's pure evil.
similar but different:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Jacobson
and he got 5 years for it XD
Notice how this doesn't apply to women? A woman sends you a nude pic, you are not allowed to put it anywhere. That seems much more like a "gift" than some cum in some sluts mouth. Then again, having her nude pictures out there signifies her as a slut and goes against women's main objective, being able to pull this shit works for a woman's objective, so of course it's law.
Because of privacy laws. Other thing being if its someone under 18 than it's considered child porn (and rightly so).
EDIT: You can post nudes but you can not identify her and/or her location
Yet when a woman had sex an underage boy and committed statutory rape, they still made him pay child support.
And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you're wrong and do believe it should be illegal to put a woman's nude pictures to you online, I'm just pointing out the ridiculous lengths governments will go to push their pro-woman, anti-male agenda.
its impossible to argue that men have it anywhere near equal, this whole thing is fucking laughable.
It's impossible for men to do it because we naturally think logically. Women have absolutely no problem.
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No, but the government hasn't found a way to emotionally justify scamming 500 billion dollars out of men every year over horse sales.
OT, but by storing the sperm in her cheeks, she's literally hamstering.
Man, I practically heard the rimshot when I read that.
But, she's not "literally" hamstering if a literal hamster is not involved somehow. (If it was, I don't wanna know.)
This reminds me of that movie "Bad teacher", where she says that the NBA players she was hooking up with, would take the used condoms with them.
They had to, or flush them down the toilet. Because some women fished the condoms out of the trash and impregnated themselves, and the courts still made the men pay CS. The NBA had to put out a letter to all their players about it.
Hell I always take mine with me and I have no where near the smv of a pro athlete
It's not about SMV, it's about your bank account value.
Your bank account doesn't even necesarily come into it.
If a certain woman wants those sweet government benefits, she can fuck an unemployed guy, get pregnant, and get them.
She'll get the benefits and it's up to him to make the child support payments from there.
I understood male SMV to be different then female SMV. It encompass all sorts of features not just how good looking he is. Job, social ability, political power, house, bank account, and appearance....
It does encompass all those things, but in this case the bank account is the only part that matters
Heh. Okay, fine. Then anything she does with it is her responsibility, and he doesn't have to pay a dime.
I'm okay with that. Either sperm becomes her property when I shoot it into her, and she's on the hook, not me... or it remains my property, and she has no right to make it into a child without my permission.
Seriously this logic makes no sense. If I give a hunting knife to someone as a gift and they stab someone with it, I'm on the hook?
Fucking femnazi judges man...
How can an educated person not see Whisper's logic above? I mean, really. They are clever, they must understand that.
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considering a lot of the fat feminists take to blaming mcdonalds and such for making them fat rather than themselves for eating too much. i would not be surprised to see some of them try to sue for that in the future.
That's fat shaming dude, just wow
Interesting, though not surprising... if you read enough of the comments, you find women saying things like "he willingly had sex with her at the time, and gave her his sperm. You can't retroactively revoke consent."
Why didn't our ancestors ride hamsters into battle? They are ferocious and cunning beasts, capable of insane reality-warping feats.
Correction: You cannot retroactively revoke consent unless you are a woman.
This has been shown by multiple instances in the news and media.
Also in the courtroom unfortunately.
Are we to the point where I have to grab a woman by the throat after I am done face fucking her and make sure she swallows like some defiant child trying to cheek a pill?
People wonder why men hate the idea of getting married and having kids.
you have stroke it down her throat like when you give a dog pills
I actually push their heads down or have them continue blowing me for a bit after I cum to make sure its a done deal. But I suppose choking them might work. Be careful of that grip though.
Wait, are we not suppose to choke them?
Lol good point.
Guy: cums and chokes her till she swallows yeahhhh, you like that? thinks to himself, "you better swallow bitch! You won't catch me slipping"
Woman: I love him!
Have you been watching through my bedroom window?
I've noticed you perform better when you have an audience.
Wait... Are you saying this isn't normal?
If this is wrong then, good sir, I do not want to be right.
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This is why I'm getting a vasectomy on my first paycheck.
Still waiting on that vasalgel.
I want something permanent.
Vasalgel supposedly lasts easily 10 years, and is a quick injection. That's a long time. I'd have no problem getting a quick injection every 8 years to be safe.
You'll be 100 years old by the time the FDA approves it, if it works at all.
Imagine the lawsuits for PTSD when women unknowingly date infertile men.
All they need to do is legalize it in one country. If they drag ass on approving it here it's black market time bitches.
Point 1. I don't live in the US (thank fucking god).
Point 2. Even if I did, I can always travel to a country where it's approved Kappa
What are you talking about? It does work.
You guys are fucking crazy playing around with your fertility, I googled the product and it has known toxic ingredients, (although they claim that when combined are ''non toxic'') I wouldn't take the risk if it was me. anything that destroys your sperm, or damages them so that you cannot impregnate a woman, will be damaging to your health in some way, at least with the current technology and likely will be that way for sometime.
If only there was a process that existed for testing whether it had harmful effects... something like testing on animals first, then some kind of clinic trials? Who knows, with our current technology we may be able to come up with some kind of process.
Sodium reacts violently in moisture, and chlorine is extremely toxic. How do you feel about table salt?
People downvoting you are hamstering, plain and simple.
what you say is perfectly true.
Dumbasses, do you really think you can take someone able to poison your nuts so much to keep them infertile for ten. fucking. years. Without no drawbacks at all?
You know that shit must be dangerous. But you don't want to admit it to yourelf.
And so comes the hamstering, and the downvoting to not hear anyone popping your bubbles.
Exactly like the women refusing to read about health related risks and permanent infertility or subfertility as consequence of taking the pill.
Take your fucking responsibilities! You want to do it? Fine, but don't downvote someone with a little common sense in his head only because you don't like what he has to say.
Fucking ridicolous.
It destroys the sperm physically not chemically
I'm guessing you're "anti-GMO" also
They also forget that it can be reversed and you can still freeze sperm if the reversion fails. Too bad it's illegal here so I have to get abroad first.
It's also a safeguard against myself, I try to be RP and MGTOW af but I know that if the "right girl"(no such thing) walked into my life, my lizard brain might take control and direct me into making some dumb decisions. For me, a vasectomy is an ultimatum, a private statement to myself declaring that I will never have kids or get cuckolded!
Exactly. Never under estimate women. They can fuck with your brain to no extent. But anyway, with time you will be less and less likely to get fooled.
It's been two years since I got mine. Totally worth it. My recommendation would be to get it at a place that specializes in men's health.
I got lucky. They brought in a 70+ year old doc that only does vasectomies. Barely felt a thing.
Got min scheduled for Sept 1. Pretty excited. Reminds me. Gotta pick up some more frozen veggies peas and corn for the jiblets.
Hopefully they hook you up with some oxymorphone or something good.
I was told on hear that it's rather painless, just a sore feeling for fora couple of days. I think it's a same day thing with just local anesthetic.
Mine has been daily pain for 4 months now.
Listen carefully kids - nothing is risk free. For 990 out of 1000 guys, their vasectomies will go fine and they will be back to work in a couple of days.
For a small percentage though, they will be impotent after. And for another small percentage they will have something called post vasectomy pain syndrome that the doctors don't know what causes it and don't know how to stop it. They 'think' it will go away on its own. Eventually. But that's all they can do.
Source - vasectomy in april. In the ER the weekend after. Ejaculated blood a month later, and 3 urologists later, still no closer to understanding why I'm in daily pain.
TL:DR - Everything you do is a risk. Understand them fully before you jump.
And that's why I don't want people slicing my balls open.
Thank you for shedding light on the dangers of vasectomies, I've read a lot of horror stories when I was looking into it. Make sure you get your testosterone tested, low T is common with it.
I had a vasectomy 8 years ago and can tell all about the experience.
They put you in the abortion chair. The one with the stirrups that holds your legs apart. He also tapes your dick to your pubes so he won't have to deal with it swinging around when he's working.
I was afraid of the shot. They stick the needle right at the base of your dick where smooth meets wrinkles. It was actually no big deal whatsoever.
What I didn't know is that they use a clamp to expose the vas deferens. The clamp causes that sick to your stomach balls feeling you get when you sit on a bike wrong. You just have to deal with it until he's done. He does this for each testicle.
After he was done, he untaped my dick. I was stuck in that uncomfortable ball feeling the entire time and was also afraid during the surgery. I looked down and my dick was so shrunked that if the tape wasn't there, it would have gone inverted.
The next day, I took off the bandage. There was a huge bruise on my ball sack that hurts just thinking about. They say you can go to work within 3 days. This is not true if you go down stairs. Each step is like a kick in the nuts. Getting in and out of the car is also very scary and painful. Again with that sick to the stomach feeling.
Finally I got over it. I don't even know where he cut in, the entry point is hidden within the wrinkles. I have had no side effects and am glad I had it done.
Jesus. Reading that made me cringe.
Your doc musta sucked. I was up no problem the next day walking round. Never even needed any of the oxy.
Thanks all for the replies. Forgot I'd posted this. Yea I'd read about the small percentage of pain cases and fortunately I work at a desk in my home so commute is non existent and I can take care of my guys while they heal. Entertaining stories all ty
It's changed Alot. Mine was two small incisions. One in each side of the sack. Like pea size. 1 Valium Pill. Made me give no Fucks.I even hit on the Dr's nurse and she was 5 months preggo. I didn't know. Or care.
Two weeks of pain but I had it done on Thursday and back to work Monday.
I still get tingles at the incision sites when I shiver from cold. Like a tiny electric shock. Kinda neat.
But took 20 minutes. Easy.
My supervisor had a vasectomy after his third kid.
Something went awry and after a day or so at home and in agonising pain each of his bollocks swelled up to 'twice the size of a tennis ball' and his sack went strange colours.
Went back to his doctor who basically threw him into an ambulance for emergency surgery.
Fucking blasts the shit out of his surgeon but has 0 regrets about getting it done.
I still want to have children when I'm older. And a vasectomy is way too permanent. What if when I'm 40 I decide I really want to have kids?
Sperm banks. I know it's not manly to impregnate your woman with a turkey baster but it beats getting ass raped with alimony from a one night stand where you were too drunk to cum on her face...
And how messed up is that, that it has to be done in self defense. What if you actually want kids later?
I wouldn't; it'll emasculate you with time.
Horseshit. The testosterone is still produced, and when it travels down the vas deferens it reaches the cut point, and enters the interior of the scrotum. It is there absorbed into your body, just add androgel is absorbed through skin.
Don't post about things you don't understand.
It's interesting that this meme has successfully propagated on TRP, despite being clearly maladaptive by almost any metric - other than TRP's limited scope of pleasure sex. This mind virus actually convinces men to willingly kill their own genetic line. It preys on male innate hedonistic desire to infect the host who shortsightedly gives up his most important asset: his ability to reproduce.
This vasectomy virus is similar - though much less extreme - to another male parasitic mind-virus that infects it's host with a promise of future hedonism but actually tricks it's host into acting in the most maladaptive way imaginable: Jihad.
You're overlooking the group of men that I'm a part of. I have a child, all the children I want, and I don't want to get tricked or trapped into having any more. For me, and men like me, this makes all the sense in the world.
Who cares? Those who don't procreate will dissapear from the genetic pool and things will get back to normal. A genetic line is of zero value to an individual.
How can you so easily trust your doctor to do right by you? A neurosurgeon in this country deliberately killed and paralyzed his patients for the hell of it, while a dentist extracted all 32 teeth of man who only wanted to have only 3 removed.
Vasectomies are a good idea for those who don't want to have kids, but the risks of trusting your body to a doctor in this country are too high. Our society doesn't punish sociopaths with enough severity to prevent the aforementioned incidents from occurring.
I wouldn't have a surgical procedure done here; I would save my money and go to Canada, Scandinavia, Germany, or Israel where there's less "dog-eat-dog" culture and more emphasis on consumer protections.
That's a bit paranoid. Do you also not cross the road because you might not run over. These examples are less than 1 in a million.
Also we have this thing called Yelp now. Helps weed out the sociopath doctors.
Yelp has a reputation for extorting money from businesses for favorable reviews to show up first.
I have seen that too, but has that ever been confirmed by a reputable source or journalist?
I work in Tech and have friends at Yelp, so I am not neutral, but that accusation always seemed a little made up to me.
I'm relaying this from personal experience. Take the warning and protect yourself.
Go back to watching Fox News and leave us alone
What's your personal experience?
I went to a top 5 hospital for an issue I had been suffering from for 7 years. At 19-years-old, I consulted with the Chief of General Surgery about the procedure and was told by him point-blank that there would be no side-effects after the surgery. I was extremely sheltered back in those days and believed him since he was a very well accomplished physician with numerous accolades and worked at one of the best hospitals in the US. He was a charming man with a type A personality and had extremely good interpersonal skills.
After the surgery, I started having symptoms and discussed it with people online and realized that he had deliberately lied to me. I'll take responsibility for my actions: I should have done my own research regarding the procedure but I was so desperate to get relief back in those days that I was all too ready to believe in someone who claimed to have a solution.
Shame on me for not doing my own research and shame on him for concealing vital information that could have saved me from what I'm now experiencing.
TL;DR 19-year-old me made a terrible decision to trust a doctor with my best interests. I will never make that mistake again.
Educate yourself
Source
Medical errors are completely different to fucking up people's surgery on purpose.
Not sure why you got downvoted, considering there's a poster in this thread describing how he's been in constant daily pain for four months due to a botched vasectomy. There are a lot of horrible stories about vasectomies out there, because there's really no safe way to slice up testicle tubes.
That shit should be classified as sexual assault.
At least one man has gone to jail for poking holes in a condom.
He was convicted of -- you guessed it! -- sexual assault.
More like fraud... I don't see how this is sexual assault.
Because telling a women you are wearing a condom and having sex with her when you aren't wearing one can get you arrested for rape.
It's a bit of a stretch, but you could make the case that women are so terrified of sexual assault because it may force them to have a child against their will. Well, this too forces someone to have a child against their will.
Viewed in this light, you could see "oops I forgot my pill and got pregnant, tee hee" as sexual assault too.
Only if you expect feminists to be consistent.
I expect them to consistently try to screw men over, regardless of facts or reason.
I expect you to not be disappointed with that expectation.
so much equality around us!
That is some crazy value.
It's hilarious he wouldn't put his dick in her. It scandalous what she did and it's criminal what the court did.
That woman and judge should be facing some repercussions.
"All gone?"
"Aaaall goooone"
At the point that that happens, off she goes to a shallow grave in the desert.
I always wonder how that doesn't happen more often...
At that point doesn't it make financial sense to pay some guys to take her out there?
And by pulling something like this I imagine it removes all negative feelings even a normal person might have for killing someone else.
I, personally, would not hesitate to higher some goons to make a woman disappear in such circumstances.
This is the kind of thing you shouldn't say on the internet, or in public. It's okay to think it, but maybe not so safe to say it.
Probably fine to say on the internet unless your reddit username is your full name.
I meant if he were ever in that situation, and was a subject, they would check his browser history using his ISP.
Probably watching too much CSI...
But who knows I guess.
Not watching enough news. Its the NSA and their ability to invalidate your privacy that you need to be worrying about.
I haven't been arrested yet...
I think it's the mindset. She pretty reasonably believes the sperm donor isn't going to do shit so she's happy to pull that stunt. I don't think she would've done the same thing if it had been a different guy. Lesson learned, don't let women push you around or think that they're in charge.
If you wear a condom, just go to the sink, rinse it, toss in trash. You hate the smell of old condoms if she asks why, then start looking for someone else if she starts acting fishy...
If roles were reversed this would be called rape. A guy going down on a chick and spitting in a shot o'cum with the intent to get her pregnant. Especially if it's some other dudes seed.
"Mommy, where do babies come from?"
Well dear, when a woman loooves a man's money very much, but doesn't know how to make him stay with you, she squirrels him by storing his nut in your cheeks, then you take a test-tube and impregnate yourself. Then you wait two years and take the man to court.
This is like saying, don't get out of your house because you might get robbed or hit by a car. This is incredibly unlikely to happen, much more real dangers from unprotected blowjobs include: Herpes, hepatitis or straight up AIDS. So, either use a condom or be more selective. Women using your sperm for child support is the least of your issues.
but...flush your condoms and get rid of the sperm
ill be doing this but still think this is gonna suck for a lot of plumbers. rip
The likelihood of contracting HIV as the recipient of a blow-job is very low indeed. There's nearly no chance, although a more realistic figure is about 1 in 50,000 per blow-job, and that obviously only applies when the person giving has HIV. So, you need to be unlucky enough to first meet somebody who is HIV positive (1 in 100, probably less in developed parts of the world?), and then be unlucky enough to be infected (1 in 50,000ish).
Sperm-jacking should probably be higher on your list of concerns.
1 in 100? No fucking way that many people have HIV... maybe in Somalia I guess? But in a place like the USA??
Thanks for the stats. I always thought that, even though HIV is unlikely, other diseases are likely to be transmitted by blowjob. So I always use condoms for oral. Does anyone know what are the most common diseases to get from bjs?
How the fuck do you cum from a blow job through a condom? How do you even stay hard?
Gonorrhoea, Herpes and Syphilis are the three you need to be most careful of. Gonorrhoea is one that doesn't always present in women, in terms of symptoms, so the woman on the end of your penis might not know she has it. Men, on the other hand, generally do have symptoms.
the likelihood of my school burning down was incredibly low too but that didn't stop the state from demanding a fire extinguisher be in every dam hallway and classroom now did it?
No one gets AIDS from a blowjob. You're more likely to get struck by lightning twice right after winning the lottery.
As a doctor, he can easily relocate to a different country, work there, and leave the bitch hanging.
He got hit for $800/month. For a working doctor, that's not atrocious, and almost certainly not worth expatriating.
Holy shit, maybe I've been working minimum wage for too long but $800 a month is fucking insane.
That's about 10 G's a year, or 15 G's before taxes. If you're a physician making $130,000, it's not the end of the world.
Now, if you're a minimum wage worker earning $25,000/year, losing 10 G's of that would be life-ending.
Not the end of the world but after taxes loans etc etc it's still not fun.
Is that all doctors make in the US?
Depends on your specialty, but yes. A brain surgeon, for instance, could make upwards of $250k. A resident, on the other hand, starts at about $60k.
That's pretty common for doctors without specialties.
That's not how MD's work at all dude. He would have to be accepted to a residency training program in the other country and complete years of training before being allowed to practice.
That is very weird. Why isn't an MD globally transferable?... Is medicine that different country to country?...
Yes. For example, in England homeopathy works. That's why it receives government funding.
Do you have any idea what you are talking about?? the answer is no, just in case
and if you think this is either easy or logistically doable, please tell me how. wow.
Wow, indeed, what a useful fucking post. By you i mean.
I especially liked the part where you bothered to suggest he might be able to move to third-world countries A, B and C but that more Developed countries like X, Y, and Z wouldnt work because they wouldnt allow him to dodge US child support law.
Thank you for taking the time to do all that glorious research and not to just be a cunt.
" As a doctor ".
Unless you are a US physician his is where you shut your trap.
I don't need to do the research as you so eloquently suggest. I am aware of student loan laws that he most likely has and that given the current state of medicine , medical pay structure and ability to self support in those countries as a foreign physician.
I am also aware that given his likely loan burden that can't go away with something as simple as relocation to almost any country the inability to support himself in that situation.
So your one liner just showed assumption after assumtion regarding doctors.
Good job on assumptions. Great job thinking before rancid shit leaves your mouth.
Wow you're an angry cunt. Calm the fuck down.
yes I can see why you would say that. Arrogance and anger did get me pretty far in life.
What are "those countries", you fucking autist?
You sound like an idiot, insisting on generalizing and bushitting instead of getting SPECIFIC.
You dont get to claim a position of authority when you havent done any goddamned research and are just shooting off at the mouth. We have countries that wont extradict motherfucking child rapists, and you sit there like a belligerent incel and insist there isnt a country on earth that wouldnt take a Doctor in?
Fucking shitstain.
I didn't say they wont take a doctor in.
so that its clear, in most countries you have to go through their vetting process ( residency, language exams, etc and then comparably shit salary to US physicians.) in the meanwhile credit agencies / banks from which you get loans for school dont go away.
I am not inclined to give you a fucking list because if you are curious you can do the research yourself. I did a long time ago and ruled out most first world countries where I would like to live as possible due to salary disparity and the fact that I would need to get "educated" again for years before earning a similar position to here.
Just because they wont extradite child rapists, due to the fact that the crime did not occur on their land, doesnt mean that they will welcome and pay most US docs.
and I am being general because asswipe I was responding to a general statement that a doc can just "get up and go"
your inability to hold a conversation without saying deep and meaningful shit like shitstain and incel tells me more than I need.
my qualifications : US trained MD who has worked in other countries and has field experience with the process.
whats yours?
again I asked a question : tell me about the logistics of how its done. Educate me oh wise one
Most doctors are arrogant quacks.
Yeah, Not so easy to do. He might be able to go to Canada but just beacuse you're a doctor doesn't mean you can just work in any country in the world
American citizen and Medical student in Sweden ;)
I know a few people who were doctors in their native countries and are driving cab or similar in the US because the license to practice medicine does not transfer.
My thought exactly. In fact, I would consider being a doctor to be the best profession for finding work in another country.
Even if his pay dropped, his standard of living would probably go way up.
As a welder, I have to professionally disagree. Tradesmen are valued world over.
This sounds weird-- I thought sperm die quickly in an environment like the mouth which is slightly acidic and has a number of enzymes working on it.
How could this have worked unless she like instantly spit it into a test tube?
The mouth is actually slightly alkaline
Saliva is alkaline, but I was under the impression that the average mouth is slightly acidic (though I guess it ultimately depends on what you've eaten/drank)
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/7024930/ns/health-sexual_health/t/sperm-gift-keeps-giving/#.Uu_svxaulEA
"Dafuq you whining about boi? Be a man and suck it up!"
Seriously this made me want to punch a hole in my screen. Men are pretty much fucking spat on if they try and engage in any sort of claim for sympathy, even if it's well deserved.
The part about the "the 5 year old boy, how would he feel if he knew his FATHER was ill because of his birth".... ARE YOU FUCKING FOR REAL? How would he feel when he finds out his mother was so incredibly devious that she spat cum into a tube then shoved it into herself to deliberately get herself knocked up to fuck over his father.
Goddamn this makes me want Vasalgel ASAP.
Or perhaps I should just get snipped... Not really my favorite option.
Vasectomy is key. Never trust a women with birth control. And if you use condoms make sure to rinse them out in the sink afterwards and take them with you. The laws are to shitty against males you need to take precautions.
you do know many condoms come with spermacide right?
They do a pretty good job of killing them
you do know many condoms
comeused to come with spermacide right?you can't buy it in a tube anymore, or have the condom pre lubed?
Don't make me feel old, why in gods name would they not be available. I can pick them up like that, but the handful at work if I want
You can still buy it in a tube, but it irritates the vaginal lining causing more urinary tract infections and a higher rate of transmission of STDs, particularly AIDS.
So the condom manufacturers all dropped it, in spite of the fact that the studies that pounded it were from prostitutes using it many times per day. I think there was also an issue that it didn't really make much difference in contraception. They were originally added because it was thought they protected against HIV, but that turned out not to be the case.
Whatever. I eat gluten, I like saturated fats, and I won't worry about simple shit.
If it's available, use it. it's there for a reason. If the girl you're with gets irritation because you're jon #5 that day, then it's not my problem
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I usually use a mixture of bleach and ammonia. Bleach does the job though
Bleach and ammonia gives you the authentic smell of WW1 trench warfare.
Adding tabasco or bleach is a pretty good safeguard. If you are just going out the door and you see your girl running past you down the street naked and yelling, it should give you a clue.
I use flashbang hot sauce, it's really more effective (shit's like 10x hotter than ghost peppers)
Or just be poor. Aint nobody trying to steal my little guys for a nonexistant paycheck.
The paycheck will exist, or you will go to prison.
Is there something wrong with flushing them?
Not good on your septic system, I suppose.
Used to do plumbing in high school with a friend's dad, many a condom were found in clogged pipes.
just rinse em out and chuck in the trash, thats what I do
I didnt even know this was possible. I thought that once sperm was exposed to air and a certain temperature that it starts to die.
This is a myth that will put you in trouble. Sperm is a bitch.
Vasectomy. Winning all the way down her throat.
Well, I guess it's time to get comfortable with snowballing.
So a woman brought a life in this world through cheap methods, just to have child support...
I bet her kid is really gona love his/her mom.. WOW MOM YOU HAD ME THROUGH A BLOW JOB JUST SO YOU CAN GET PAYCHECKS ?
anyways anyone got sources on how authentic that story is?
It'll be the first thing to come up if the kid ever Google's his mom's name.
This is an older case: Phillips v Irons, 883 N.E.2d 1151 (2005) that adopted a treatment of sperm as property approach. Many other courts have viewed this situation from a contractual perspective, i.e. did the man intend or risk that his sperm would be used for procreation? That approach leads to more favorable results for men, for example:
http://caselaw.findlaw.com/pa-supreme-court/1033446.html
If you are concerned about this sort of thing, the use of a spermicide within the condom would assist. For blowjobs, I guess you could make sure she has a drink of some liquid prior to leaving your sight. Fuck Illinois and that stupid precedent.
Illinois. Explains everything. She bought the verdict. Probably had to suck some more cock for best results.
As a male Illinois resident, fuck that woman and fuck the court system and crook county. But figuratively fuck the woman of course. Don't want to be giving my entire paycheck away
You know society is in deep shit when actual news stories start to become confused with The Onion news stories.
Should be considered rape. He didn't give consent!
This is one of my worst nightmares.
Didn't she maintain that they also had sex, and that the child was convinced normally?
If the sperm was a gift then it was her sperm, which makes her the father. But who gives a fuck?
That description is the reason I give up.
It's a good story, and a worst case scenario.
Keep in mind, this is the top 1% of crazy, and no one in here will experience anything like this. More likely, you'll get your very standard hypergamy... By nature, women are not going to go too far outside the norm. It's a good story to knock your unicorn off it's pedestal, but I would probably not use this example for your MAP.
The lesson here is solid, do your due diligence. The example? Not so much.
remember, IUD's are there, and they are hands down, the closest you get to the snip. No forgotten pills, no muted mood swings based on the pill, basically removing human error
Don't we have like 100,000 users on this subreddit or something?
I think someone in here might experience something like this.
I did with one of my first serious gf's, back when I used to think that was a good idea
I fucked her in the ass one day after class, went home. The next day she's happy and tells me like it's a funny story how she waited for some cum to come out of her ass so she could put it in her pussy and we could have a baby
from that day forth, I knew bitches be cray.
Jesus, weapons grade crazy. High risk of getting a UTI or worse doing that just to try baby trapping someone.
Top 0.1% might be realistic, I don't think AWALT applies as much here, this is some next-level shit. Actually, it does. I rescind the previous statement about that.
1 in a million. You can win big putting all your money on 00 in roulette, doesn't mean it's smart to plan for it
i did, i wrote it in the other reply to you
you may not experience my story or the OP story, but the point is they will do some crazy shit at some point which will blow your mind and take you by surprise if you're not expecting it. Whether it's claiming rape, trying to say she was hit by you, poking holes in condoms, etc
They do insane shit. AWALT
yeah, a worse case scenario. I've seen my share of crazy, but this is an outlier, or it wouldn't be news.
Take heed, take precautions, but the guys in here talking about bleaching their condoms are missing the point, just CYA
Not so fast here with the "safety" of IUDs. You know that with a little effort they can be removed by the girl. Google it and I'd say never under any circumstances trust women with anything.
I trust my ability to vett crazy.
Someone willing to do these things are crazy. If she's not on a pedestal, and you are observant, you'll see red flags.
Even cheaters give very clear warning signs. Its just unicorn syndrome has guys hamstering it away
fuck no, don't give them any ideas
Or just get a vasectomy. Problem Solved.
I recently started this thing where I tell women I just stock on the weekends and go to school.
The reason for this is because I don't want them thinking, "Ooooh. He has money! Beta bucks potential!"
Its brand new, so I don't know how it'll work for me given my situation.
And now I'm an incel again, this time by choice.
I once heard something similar happened to some NBA player on All-Star Weekend. They've done the deed, he dropped the condom in the bin and walked away. Woman took the condom from the bin, extracted the sperm, took it to a fertility clinic and you can guess the rest of the story. Gold-digging bitch got off scot-free, of course. It wasn't an isolated case either. It went that far that the League had to issue a warrning for players to flush the used condom down the toilet after one night stands on the road. This fucking world...
There is a precedent in the legal system that a criminal is not supposed to PROFIT from a crime. But of course with womyyynnn that goes out the window.
That's like the most retarded sentence i think i've ever heard of.
Like, i don't even, uh... what the actual fuck?! It breaks like a gazillion ethical stances.
The judge that came out with that monstruosity would easily find a way to demonstrate right all the most devious things that happened in history, Mao, Pol Pot, the nazis. Easy stuff, compared to this one, on the logical plane.
After this, there's nothing true, and nothing false. Seriously, if you can spin around facts, rights, centuries of legal and human common sense like that, nothing is true anymore, and nothing is false.
"The sleep of reason produces monsters."
My father has paid over $100,000 in tax free money in child support.
Had my vasectomy last Easter weekend. No kids for this guy.
Why not just flush the condom down the toilet?
Not wise. Sometimes they do come back. Happened to me when I was a teenager, and know what? My mother found it. Just throw away what´s inside, and you´re totally sure it´s ok.
She is apparently not a very good doctor, has one-star reviews: healthgrades.com
So has anyone actually brought this story up with any women? I mean seriously if you have what were their responses? If you haven't what do you think the response would be?
Operating off the premise that your genetic material is something you created you should be entitled to it. Anyone know the laws regarding the sale or use of eggs? If the same laws don't apply to men then it can be argued that we could literally be stripped of our own creation and therefore our own property.
"But a women would never do anything like this" right? Wrong! Look blue pillers, no one is saying all women pull this shit. However that's not to say that some women do. Honestly if I were to bring this up in conversation with a feminist they would outright deny a women would actually do it. The fucking moral high ground women get is astonishing.
I did. They all told me it´s impossible as semen can´t be preserved well. None of them told me "hey that´s fucked up" first. That was probably the third or fourth sentence they said... if they said it at all.
Is this a joke? Seriously, this is a joke right?
In reality this situation would not be over until that woman is legally obligated to take full responsibility for her actions.
It's a real story. During court she said, "He's lying about only doing oral". So it comes down to he-said, she-said. It's stupid. The court won't be able to find ANY evidence to support the oral-only relationship. Sadly, it comes down to "does your dna match?"
Now I can't even get a bareback BJ? For fucks sake.
If only we could get DRM protection on our sperm.
This makes me want a vasectomy. Never know when a hamster will try to cash in.
Nothing is safe but vasectomy.
Why a doctor would have to do this is beyond me. I wouldnt think its about the money. If it was some sick scientific experiment to see if it would work, I guess I can get that. Does say its an affair, so just to screw him over?
Crazy people everywhere
I might be naive but does this shit only happen in the USA?
I'm in Asia so I'm safe from this... Right?
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It's a woman's nature, so if this upsets you you haven't really swallowed the pill. /s
What a cunt, not to mention the cunts within the court system.
This is certainly a fake story. A doctor doesn't need to file for child support.
Most women don't "need" child support, but extra money is extra money.
Nor do they need to take bribes from pharmaceutical companies. And yet they do.