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Recently divorced, end of my rope

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April 2, 2020
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EDIT: Thanks to all you who commented, even the not so supportive comments, I was and still am in a dark place, and maybe hugs isn't exactly what I need right now.

I know the collective culture of TRP thinks that a man must be a rock and unflinching, but I guess even men are humans, I am not in the state of having ultimate abundance mentality nor the body of a greek god and the mind of a greek philosopher. My current state won't make my ancestors proud, but it is what it is.

What you should know is that I am still fighting, looking out for my mental health and trying as hard as I can to better myself, so your advise wasn't wasted. I WILL come out of this stronger and better. So thank you for your thoughts, and for briefly caring about another human being you don't know.

Hello brothers, long time lurker...

I will get right to it, I am recently divorced, and I guess the breakup is taking its toll. I feel unimaginable pain, and my productivity is pretty much zero. I wish this was fresh, but it happened 2 month ago.

To give a quick background, married for 7 years, first everything, middle eastern country so its not uncommon, I was a lurker here for a long time and this place benifited me immensely, but apparently I didn't fully internalize a lot. I thought just because different culture, some things don't apply...you know where this is going. She left me because I was boring and didn't give her tingles, despite a stable career and decent money flowing.

I read the sidebar. I started exercising and lost a ton of weight (but still fat, too fat), I was on my way to better things and then the quarantine happened. Sitting alone most of the day is making my brain eat me alive. I miss her, yet can't forgive her, I miss the emotional intimacy, the sexual release. The fact that i am working abroad, completely alone and cut off family and friends isn't helping.

I need your help brothers, ever since the divorce my motivation is shot, I simply can't do work or anything serious, aside from working out (used to gym, now home workouts), I used to chase after my career hard, now I don't give a fuck. I can't find the motivation/discipline to work or be productive. Why bother? If I become homeless and die... Why bother? I won't be more alone or more in pain. My heart literally hurt, actual pain from the emotional toll.

How can I get over her during a quarantine with no ability to socialize or date? (and honestly, no energy). And how to regain my mission? Right now nothing matters. I want to be a man on a mission, and I know how, just can't find the energy to do it.

Appreciate you help, brothers. I literally have no one else...


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Title Recently divorced, end of my rope
Author throwawaypain345
Upvotes 18
Comments 63
Date 02 April 2020 05:59 PM UTC (6 months ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/359310
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/ftr3pc/recently_divorced_end_of_my_rope/
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[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando40 points41 points  (11 children) | Copy

I will get right to it, I am recently divorced

Congratulations and welcome to the start of the rest of your life.

[–]throwawaypain345[S] 5 points6 points  (10 children) | Copy

I just turned 30, I know logically that I am young, but I feel old. Very very old. When ur dumped and have severe scarcity mentality, and completely rudderlees, the future doesn't seem bright...

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando32 points33 points  (7 children) | Copy

You got a lucky break - you just don't know it yet.

Pain is a temporary emotion. It will pass - it always does.

[–]Tyred_Biggums7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

He needs to get out of his negative mindset. It's been two months and he still has Oneitis over his ex.

Pain is a temporary emotion. It will pass - it always does.

Not only does it pass, but it makes a man stronger. The greater the pain - the better you can use that to forward yourself, but have to drop the victim mentality to do that. OP is nowhere near being able to do that yet.

[–]throwawaypain345[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You are right. I did drop the victim mentality, victims don't do anything. But I can't get over the negative mindset. And while I wouldn't call her a oneites, she was my wife for 7 years. I don't want to get back together, but you are right. I am just content not thinking about her everyday all the time

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Pain is a temporary emotion. It will pass - it always does.

But it’s been a whole 2 months after a 7 year marriage. She should be cured since he’s a “long time lurker.”

But, seriously OP, the thing you are missing is you have a severe case of ONEitis. It’s a disease. Man, what a blessing it is to be free to take RP Principles and hit up up some fresh poon.

[–]throwawaypain345[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

The cure for it is as u said, fresh poon. I have zero confidence in my current, fat, depressed self to get that. I am working, hard, to stop being that person, but it will take time, time where I won't be getting the poon, and hence, will still have oneitis... Any advise?

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lift heavy, eat less, buy some new clothes, read the sidebar, post in OYS, do the upcoming 60 Days of Dread and quit being a whiny little bitch.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That’s bullshit. You should have been working in your game all along. If you have a reasonable amount of game and frame , you should easily be able to get laid.

What is your height/weight/lifts?

[–]throwawaypain345[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I logically know that. I logically know a lot of stuff. Emotionally I am not quite there yet

[–]TheBlockedUser4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

30... Lol, you ARE young.

[–]pirisca1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just 30? You lucky bastard.

[–]Tyred_Biggums22 points23 points  (4 children) | Copy

Listen - 2020 has been a crazy ass year for me - separation, civil DV charges, a global pandemic... etc. Here's the thing to always remember - no one can take away your happiness and a positive mindset except you. And your mindset really sucks and is fucking you over.

I won't bullshit you - I felt similar to you for a few days after the separation and there's definitely times when I fall into negative thinking, but coming on here and whining about it won't help. What helps is for you to be able to recognize the thoughts and figure out WHY and WHERE they're coming from. Journaling and meditation has helped immensely. As is having IRL male friends.

Alright - so let's break this down...

I will get right to it, I am recently divorced, and I guess the breakup is taking its toll

Best thing that will happen to you. Seriously, start framing your mindset in this way.

I thought just because different culture, some things don't apply...you know where this is going. She left me because I was boring and didn't give her tingles, despite a stable career and decent money flowing.

AWALT. You know this, don't ever hamster yourself into another line of thought in the future. Yes there is a spectrum of AWALT but it doesn't change the fact that AWALT.

I feel unimaginable pain, and my productivity is pretty much zero. I wish this was fresh, but it happened 2 month ago.

Why do you feel pain and where is it coming from? I 100% know the answers that you may give, but you need to figure this out for yourself.

I read the sidebar. I started exercising and lost a ton of weight (but still fat, too fat), I was on my way to better things and then the quarantine happened.

So you've been at this, what? 2 months? That's nothing. How old are you? What are your lifts? I've been at this for 15 months and am nowhere near my full potential, but I'm ok with that as I continue to grind forward.

I won't be more alone or more in pain. My heart literally hurt, actual pain from the emotional toll.

I'm stealing this from someone who told me this a few months ago... "So you're lonely? Cool."

How can you change this into a positive?

How can I get over her during a quarantine with no ability to socialize or date?

Do other people or the ability to date women change your value or how you feel about yourself? If so, why. Why do you seek this validation. I get it - not socializing or dating isn't ideal, but it is what it is. So focus on yourself.

I want to be a man on a mission

You have no idea what your mission is. Your goal right now is to focus on you. Yeah you're depressed, so that sucks but only YOU can change that.

How can you improve yourself?

  • Re-read the sidebar books and do any exercises in them
  • Post in the weekly OYS thread. Every fucking week.
  • STFU to yourself about dumb shit out of your control
  • Figure out some shit you can do by yourself that you like
    • Put together a model of something
    • Jigsaw puzzle
    • Catch up on movies you wanted to see but haven't
    • Read fiction you wanted to read
    • Read non-fiction
    • Focus on a side project
  • Buy some dumbbells or a power rack or whatever and continue to lift. Keep doing body weight if you don't have space / money but up your exercise right now. If you're exercising 3x a week 30 mins a day make it 6x a week for 90 minutes.
  • Get out and take a walk for 30 minutes
  • Create a routine to live by right now
  • Get in touch with friends (good friends, not faggot friends)

[–]throwawaypain345[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

I got out of bed to reply thoroughly, so here we go:

Why do you feel pain and where is it coming from? I 100% know the answers that you may give, but you need to figure this out for yourself.

lots of reasons. i made mistakes, so shame for that. i was willfully blind, so that too. I feel very betrayed, as my ex didn't even bother to ask how i am for a month during a global pandemic (despite the whole lets be friends crap, and this woman was family for years), the absolute abrupt end of friendship/emotional intimacy/sexual intimacy, i can taste the whiplash, but most importantly, pain from knowing that till now, i truly learned nothing, and this can happen all over again next time. (i did analyze and learn, but no concrete evidence that it wont happen)

So you've been at this, what? 2 months? That's nothing. How old are you? What are your lifts? I've been at this for 15 months and am nowhere near my full potential, but I'm ok with that as I continue to grind forward.

uh, too little i know, and i still have a loooooooong way to go. i am very fat, so losing weight will take some time...

I'm stealing this from someone who told me this a few months ago... "So you're lonely? Cool."

How can you change this into a positive?

I really don't know. i am cut off of everyone, literally in another continent. I cant see how this isolation can be beneficial...

Do other people or the ability to date women change your value or how you feel about yourself? If so, why. Why do you seek this validation. I get it - not socializing or dating isn't ideal, but it is what it is. So focus on yourself.

This. This is the hardest question anyone has asked me...

I won't bullshit you, yes. other people and ability to date women affect my perceived value , i dont know why. i have no idea why i seek this validation, but it's there. I wish i was my own point of value, but i dont know how

i will do your suggestions religiously, and hopefully will have good results to report.
I appreciate your feedback brother. I will take it and use it to the max. Thanks

[–]Tyred_Biggums2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

lots of reasons. i made mistakes, so shame for that.

Can't change the past - learn from it, move on. Have to drop the shame and the "what if I did X?". It's easier said than done (believe me), but stop those thoughts in their tracks when you have them.

I feel very betrayed, as my ex didn't even bother to ask how i am for a month during a global pandemic (despite the whole lets be friends crap, and this woman was family for years)

Do you have kids with this woman? If not, no contact. If yes, then keep it only to the kids. I've had to spell this out for my STBX clearly - "we are not friends, I am not your husband, you're the mother to my children and that's where our relationship begins and ends".

i am very fat, so losing weight will take some time...

I'm not sure what "Very fat" is. I'm 6'2" and was 270 two and a half years ago. No lifting, ate like crap. It takes time, but it's all about discipline and changing your habits. There's no quick fix. I'm 195 now and my lifts are... not completely embarrassing anymore. You have to rewrite your brain, NGAF when people try to get you to eat like shit, cut out sugar. Track your calories religiously.

I really don't know. i am cut off of everyone, literally in another continent. I cant see how this isolation can be beneficial...

You have a huge gift, you are actually FORCED to focus on only YOU right now. This whole thing forced some introspection of myself and growth that is immensely rewarding.

I wish i was my own point of value, but i dont know how

This is very simple - you don't see yourself as the prize. You think you're "not enough". I don't care if you're still fat or don't date. Changing this mindset, even if you have to fake it is everything. You need to get to the point of NGAF what others think, know what you need to work on, but be happy with who you are. It's a tough long road to get there, but it's 100% worth it. There are no shortcuts by the way and it's painful to look inside yourself and unravel all the poor mental models and bullshit in your own head.

[–]throwawaypain345[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

thanks. i have no kids, and no contact is already initiated. I am walking the path, changing the mindset is very very difficult, but i will do it. Thanks brother

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Change your name to BIGGUNS. And claim your fucking berett. And a beer. This was pure gold.

[–]Vonfahtz6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

A quick rundown on what your brain is experiencing now, from a biochemical standpoint:

The stress center of your brain has been lighting up like a fucking Christmas tree, and has probably burnt itself out. You've been pair bonded, and are witnessing the devastating effects of this bond being severed. We are wired to wig the fuck out when that bond is severed in a way that we deem *unfavorable*.

Your amygdala is where all traumatic memories are stored. Why? So when shit hits the fan the next time this happens (and it will if you don't learn and fundamentally transform from this experience), it knows to send your body into a fight or flight mode. When the relationship was truly severed, did you notice that your legs felt like they wanted to run? What about your fists? How well could you have done a math problem in those moments? Not very well. When the amygdala is in control, cortisol is released and literally chokes your prefrontal cortex. Any higher order thinking will not happen until you calm the fuck down. Read this whole fucking thing.

You're totally alone in this, and that is the perfect environment to transform into someone who is truly independent. In the meantime:

Pain? Endorphins. Lift, run. Now.

Unfulfilled/Lacking confidence? Serotonin. Learn.

Bored? Dopamine. Lift. Hobbies.

Miss that intimacy? Spin plates.

The MAP and the sidebar will make sense once you apply the steps and put some distance between you and this train wreck that was your marriage.

[–]throwawaypain345[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You are absolutely right. this is spot on. my biggest fear is that it will happen again, but at the same time i dont want to give up, i want to experience life, cant run away from the first defeat...

the problem is finding the energy to get out and do something. sometime i cant find the energy to play video games! :D

[–]Vonfahtz1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Enjoy your fade into obscurity, quiet desperation and a truly miserable existence then.

For the longest time, I couldn't understand why vets on this forum would sound off on people who seemed to be at their lowest point. But I get it now. Sack the fuck up and sweat out this shitty mindset.

[–]stoicstephen4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

Did you have a mission to start with?

It sounds like your mission was your marriage.

You get over this by exercising your body, mind and spirit.

Work out, do bodyweight exercises. Read, re-read what you already read. Meditate, and if possible go into nature.

Install Tinder, "socialize" and game.

[–]throwawaypain345[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

I am ashamed to say that yes, marriage was my mission. Or rather, the "married life". My main focus was career, to be able to provide and live a better life. All that is gone, so what's the point?

My problem now is lacking the energy to search for the mission. I was always a man of a mission, now there is non, and nothing is attractive enough to seek...

[–]Tyred_Biggums2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

All that is gone, so what's the point?

Because life is fucking fun and entertaining as hell from the right perspective.

Come on, look at your divorce and then a global fucking pandemic as a concept so preposterous that it's hilarious.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

then a global fucking pandemic as a concept so preposterous that it's hilarious

I was eagerly awaiting our World Leaders to come out yesterday and annouce "April Fool".

Sadly, it never happened. We just have April and a load of fools.

It's not a pandemic. It's a media epidemic.

[–]throwawaypain345[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

it actually is hilarious. the pain from my old life falling down completely negated any anxiety from the pandemic and its results. what happens happens

[–]FoxShitNasty832 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy

How can I get over her

Bang strange, but your in quarantine what a pickle!

Get busy doing shit, make lists stay focused stay busy. Don't be gay about it.

Or

"It seems you're having some trouble In dealing with these changes Living with these changes (oh no) The world is a scary place Now that you've woken up the demon in me

Get up, come on get down with the sickness"

[–]throwawaypain345[S] 2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy

Banging strangers is next to impossible sadly. I have a lot of work to do on myself before I am "bang a stranger" smv level...

I am trying my best not to be gay about it, but every plans for the future are evaporated. I practically have nothing to live for (or so think the bitch in me, but hard to reason with that bitch right now). I simply lack the energy to kick myself up like I always do

[–]Tyred_Biggums1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I have a lot of work to do on myself before I am "bang a stranger" smv level...

Well that mindset won't get you anywhere.

[–]throwawaypain345[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

but how to change it before i am actually good looking or have a good body?

[–]RStonePT0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

I have a lot of work to do on myself before

Since you know this, why bother posting at all? Wanta hug? Want to cry into Bobs big tits? If you say you have testicular cancer will you be able to sleep?

Wsate your own time, don't waste everyone elses.. Sidebar is over there, get to work >>>

[–]throwawaypain345[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

the reason for posting is having zero energy to "get to work". I was getting to work, shredding my workouts and reading tons of books. then it went to hell. i can't. just can't. I cant really explain it, normally i am lazy and unmotivated but i do the job. i push through, even when the gas is low. now there is no pedal. I am asking for advise on how to get back that pedal...

[–]FoxShitNasty831 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Jolt yourself out of it you sad sack of shit. People are dying, young, old, healthy it dosent matter. Man the fuck up and move on with your life.

[–]RStonePT0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Exactly. Testicular cancer meeting so you can cry.

You're here to work and provide value or I'll show you the door, your move sport

[–]PillUpAss1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This chick Marla Singer did not have testicular cancer.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red5 points6 points  (9 children) | Copy

You have no one here or IRL.

[–]throwawaypain345[S] 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy

Ok, but it's a very scary thought. I thought "normal" people would have someone who cares about them. Guess I thought wrong

[–]FoxShitNasty8311 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

Nope, no-one cares. It's a good thing, you have my permission to care about youself only.

[–]throwawaypain345[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ha. Ur absolutely right. Me first and foremost

[–]Tyred_Biggums1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Ok, but it's a very scary thought

Why?

[–]throwawaypain345[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Humans survive in groups. Getting shunned meant death for a long time for us.

I can't explain why it's scary for me, but it very much is. I feel the walls of my place closing up on me. I truly fear that this is it. I will always be alone for the rest of my life. I dont want to be alone, and most people who say they do are lying

[–]ChokingDownRPRed Beret1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

You think anybody gives a fuck about you? That's hilarious!

[–]throwawaypain345[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Human are wired to live in communities. It's unnatural to - at least- not want someone to care.

But after this, I now KNOW no one cares. It's a cold world, but it's the card I was dealt

[–]wtf_ever_man1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

No offense man. I didn't read your post because I don't care about the story but how toy are handling this is all wrong. Not sure if your wanted the divorce or she did but now is your time to focus on you. Get your shit together and focus on you. What do toy want? What have you learned? Who the fuck cares about her? You? Why? What's that say about you?

I get it, I do but you need to slap yourself in the face and wake the fuck up. Your not a good damn victim, so making yourself out to be one and do something with your new found time and spent up rage that your should be feeling. Get out in the garage and punch something, lift some metal, build something. Do something and dont come back here.

That's just my two cents man. Best of luck.

[–]throwawaypain345[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

i know all that, but no will nor energy to do it. how to get it back?

[–]wtf_ever_man1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

No offense but not my problem. You need to be the one to find it. Dont go to others looking to solve your problems for you. I think your a man so be a man and suck it up and get back up.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5JAHAFvcr2o

Do what you have to do and dont reply to me again. That's all I really have to say to you man. Get out of the house and go do something. Get your head in a different place.

[–]Maximus_Valerius0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

This is not the place to make you feel better (now).

You sound suicidal.

Contact a suicide hotline or chat service. Get help and come back when you’re in a better place.

[–]throwawaypain345[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

i wont use the S word, but the thought crossed my mind. I dismissed it tho, i am not suicidal.

My entire world, values, mission, and place in the social hierarchy came crashing down. I might be depressed tho, cant do much about it in this lovely pandemic.

[–]Maximus_Valerius1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

cant do much about it in this lovely pandemic

That’s an excuse. Start downloading the sidebar books and get the fuck to work.

[–]mrpfuckarounditis0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Man I feel your pain. Many of us have been there. It will get better, really, just stop the inner dialogue and focus on the "now" . Start doing things. Whatever. Productivity will be shit until you start. Cut drugs and alcohol. This shit just postpone the thoughts, but you need to face them sober and let them go. Meditation helps. Go to the mirror and smile to yourself. It's gay but you like you, don't you? This motherfucker there has done a lot of things he is proud of, has had a lot of fun and has still a lot to give. Do a daily plan and try to stick to it. Write your schedule for the next day in advance, put it in a paper and carry it with your lazy ass the whole day. Every time you have a bad thought that interrupt whatever you want to do, go to the floor and do 10 push ups. You will have a lot of thoughts, go for the push-ups every time. It will feel better, and worst case is you become a fucking iron chest. And really, yes, nothing matters, we are alone and all that... Give it a try: read, lift.. Be patient. Write OYS weekly and I hope you will be better soon.

Edit: for fuck's sake, you used your throwaway to ask a day ago about a fucking video-game? Was it for a kid or yourself?

[–]throwawaypain345[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

thanks man.

No, it was for me, no use lying about it.
In my defense, quarantine and zero energy, which is why i am posting this...

[–]amalgamator0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

There are a few dark clouds, but the sky is still blue, the clouds will pass and change. Start working on yourself. Consider a bit of individual therapy if you are too lazy to read the sidebar and I know the gym may be closed, but start with 10 sets of fork out downs and table push aways!

[–]throwawaypain345[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

i think i will give therapy a shot. I am not too lazy to read the side bar tho. i will. thanks

[–]JCX_Pulse0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I was going to say something completely different, but after reading a few of your responses it’s clear you need to stop being such a faggot and stop feeling sorry for yourself.

That’s step 1. How you do that is up to you, but it can’t be by doing the same thing you’ve been doing. As someone who had his wife leave him for another dude, I know what kind of shit spiral that can potentially lead to. But I fed that anger and resentment and shame into trying to improve myself.

I went on a trip internationally. I woke out 2-3 times a day even with this quarantine. I read. I create projects. No man here is going to hold your hand through this shit, especially if you can’t even find the will to do something for yourself.

If you can’t help you, why would anyone else?

[–]rockstarsheep0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Start writing. Let it all out, by putting it all down. Seems like you’ve been bottling everything up. Now it’s time to let it go.

Stay away from booze. Stay away from drugs.

[–]Awakeningof170 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Use this time as an opportunity to forget about your ex and forget about banging new fucking poon for now. This is a chance for you to reset. No external distractions, this is your chance to look deep inside and discover who you really are. I'm guessing you don't enjoy spending time with the person that is you? What does that fucking tell you? I'm recently divorced too and living separate from my kids. How am I coping now in this current situation? I've forced myself to wake up at 5am every fucking morning to do 100 burpees, that sets my discipline level for the day. I then work 6am - 5pm, after which I do my home gym workout. I'm eating clean, dropping bodyfat levels and using my extra time to read good books. When this shit blows over, I will emerge from quarantine with more money and less debt. I'll also be ready to bang all the horny sluts that will have dumped their fat, whining, complaining betas. Will you be ready?

[–]coachdad80 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Practically you need to workout, diet, read the sidebar relentlessly, and have lots of discipline. This will increase your confidence and make you a better man.

She left me because I was boring and didn't give her tingles, despite a stable career and decent money flowing.

That's what you told yourself. Reasons don't matter. What matters now is how you improve mentally and physically so the second half of your life is better than the first half.

[–]hack3geRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Some men just aren’t cut out for this faggot - figure out how badly you want the life you have always dreamed of and what you are willing to do to get it.

[–]60cman590 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Pick up heavy things in your house, put them down...repeat.

[–]Vegasman200020 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Divorced and no kids? And you want sympathy? How about envy...

[–]GastonUre0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Rember there's always another hole. Don't get attached to one and you'll be good. And if you ask "why bother?" just about anything, you're right. Don't. Lie down and die. Stop wasting perfectly good oxygen you weak willed maggot.

[–]throwawaypain345[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

i wish i would die, but it aint that easy, and i wont die just yet



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