Are young women getting worse?

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April 9, 2020

I'm 30 now and i've had a go with women for years. I've seen multiple "generations" of the 18-22 crowd come and my conclusion is they are getting worse and worse and worse.

Young chicks are always more dramatic, but the attention whore levels, out right sluttiness, and open displays of this desire for the CC while shaming betas is quite revolting. They used to be more subtle about it.

They also seem to just not know what good behavior is anymore without being told. It's worse and worse each generation. Like, what healthy boundaries are in relationships, how to act etc. They don't even hide this shit. My theory is social media as it grew it made them worse and worse as it goes on, especially the youngest "crops" (18-22).

One more thing i've noticed is they absolutely dominate most men now. They don't want relationships anymore, just attention and an army of suitors to maintain. they dont want romance. It's the guys that want all this shit these days in their age brackets and the women manipulate them with it lol

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Title Are young women getting worse?
Author Just1515
Upvotes 243
Comments 208
Date 09 April 2020 12:05 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]Project_Zero_Betas137 points138 points  (7 children) | Copy

It's social media, and apparently equivalent to porn for guys. Imagine if you got to walk around all day on your phone looking at porn in public and sharing it with everyone around the world, you'd be a fucking sociopath as well.

[–]jackandjill2255 points56 points  (2 children) | Copy

That's a weirdly accurate way of putting it. I remember along time ago when this stuff first started taking off I summarized it as "overnight all girls have become like California narcissistic asshole girls no matter their geography"

Friends reply, you can thank social media for that.

[–]thoroughlythrown4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

I was having a similar discussion with my friend, I called it the Kardashian effect. The Kardashian tribe basically perfected the art of attention whoring as well as were trailblazers in using social media to fuel their narcissism and brand. Women everywhere ate that shit up and in turn became addicted to the likes and thirsty DMs every time they posted a mediocre edited-to-hell selfie.

[–]jackandjill221 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]RedSkeller8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

I’d love to go back to all my jobs where I looked at my phone for the time and a manager saw me and castrated me for it. Now it’s perfectly fine for Karen to scroll Facebook for six hours and do two hours of work. Imagine if it was porn, you’d be fired so quick your head would spin.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just think of how different things would be if a girl checking out how many likes her Gram got at work was as frowned upon as checking out pornhub before your lunch break. It's absolutely insane. Guys who do NoFap are as rare as the girls who forego social media accounts.

[–]TehJimmyy6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

nofap is a trend but nosocialmedia hasnt even considered yet.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hahaha I literally just posted this a few minutes ago:

Just think of how different things would be if a girl checking out how many likes her Gram got at work was as frowned upon as checking out pornhub before your lunch break. It's absolutely insane. Guys who do NoFap are as rare as the girls who forego social media accounts.

[–]Rick-Scumley160 points161 points  (42 children) | Copy

I agree bro. I also noticed that almost all of them 23+ are on anti depressants. Every chick I’ve hit off dating apps all had anti depressants in their medicine cabinets. It’s a strange trend I’m seeing

[–]jackandjill2265 points66 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yea, this is def the direction things are heading in. Young dudes are just Fucking SIMP trash, the girls are wild/loose AF. & The social dynamic is destabilized. Shits Fucked & it's only trending downward.

[–]Iluvalmonds837 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, we’re seeing the upswing of 3rd wave feminism affecting modern society and the way our young male generation suffers for it, and social media replacing most of our real life social interactions. Depression and other mental health issues are on the rise for younger folks too.

[–]Just1515[S] 58 points59 points  (32 children) | Copy

The biploar shit is turned up to 10 because they have a hard crack device in heir hands(smart phone). It doesn't effect men this way.

I think it simultaneously teaches them to chase chad dick, get a flood of attention on social media and dating apps, constantly can take their picture and feel ugly or get validation through editing it, compete with other women on who can look the nicest or upload the most trendy thing and get most attention, maintain an army of orbiters for support, collecting them, while also having access to talking to chad in a private way that nobody else can ever see even if they are in a relationship(ie, the next best thing is always accessible anywhere any time), and they are taught this is normal.

I creates a complete fucking crazy hysterical mess

[–]helppc49383829 points30 points  (27 children) | Copy

What's the alternative? Is it better to find a woman that has never had a real BF before? I'm dating a 20 yr old girl and I'm her first bf. Shes always dtf, and treats me like a king, but sometimes I wonder if shes better kept a plate, but it's hard to find non damaged woman

[–]jackandjill2223 points24 points  (9 children) | Copy

I don't think non-damaged millennials really exist en-mass. Tbh it's mostly a privilege like not having debt after college or something. People are too self-interested, the normal social boundaries that used to guide people have vanished so people make enormous self-destructive mistakes.

[–]helppc4938380 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy

What about foreign woman (Asia, europe) etc?

[–]jackandjill2212 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy


That's a weirdly accurate way of putting it. I remember along time ago when this stuff first started taking off I summarized it as "overnight all girls have become like California narcissistic asshole girls no matter their geography"

Friends reply, you can thank social media for that.

[–]golgynat0r10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

it applies to all women everywhere, im from southeast europe and the common misconception that european women are different is astounding ....

[–]2redhawkes3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Can confirm, it's a spectrum, but no unicorns here. Once you see the shit for what it is, you can't unsee it. AWALT

OTOH, foreigners who come here with the idea of unicorn hunt, end up with the horn up in their ass and empty pocket.

[–]dusara2172 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

The grass is always greener. Acting like men aren't made unbelievably stupid by social media, as well, is a touch ridiculous. All of us in the early-twenties age bracket have a two-second attention span unless we specifically seek to fix the issue.

[–]jagdecat5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Asian and Indian are getting the virus but the culture still holds them in place. It's a telling trend that white men are increasingly marrying more from Asian / Indian cultures then their own. One reason is that they're still highly prized in those cultures.

From a personal experience, three of my friends married indian girls and one of them (friend) was a black guy.

[–]wyota1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

SE Asia is the best choice. China is becoming increasingly powerful and nationalistic, and no doubt they'll soon look at you in disgust for being non-Asian, but SE Asian girls are much less prudish but more traditional and still put a premium in foreigners. Especially Cambodia, Laos, Philippines. But Vietnam and Thailand as well.

[–]imjustaman930 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Polish living back home are still decent but those that migrated to UK etc adopted local standards of attention seeking whores.

[–]communistcontrolact13 points14 points  (4 children) | Copy

Then stick with her and don’t fuck up.

There’s so many bitches and crazies out here. Don’t even bother with them

[–]helppc4938386 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

But lately shes been complaining that we don't have much in common. I've been running dry on texting her since shes gone to a different city for four months. How does texting only for logistics work for that?

[–]seefromabove1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

How does texting only for logistics work for that?

Sex over SMS.You just describe what you'd do to her and her reactions in fragments of sentences in text messages 30+minutes apart. I've done it as 1 week foreplay before seeing an LDR. She told me she had been waking around wet for a week.

Something to consider: you can get her too horny so that she seeks a "local release".

[–]drunkPKMNtrainer1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You either lock down or put a lot of effort jumping thru hoops to keep things fresh with her. At the end, it's all a game. You choose what path/game you wanna play.

[–]communistcontrolact-5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy

In this case your only communication should be a call just to check on her, and only do it once every other week

[–]cman94elder4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I fucking hate texting. It is so shallow and a inferior form of communication.

[–]wyota0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Why the hell would you complain about this? I dont see how this makes her more likely to cheat. Unless you're not particularly attracted to her, and cant stand all her doting.

[–]OrphanedVigilante0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Enjoy her while she's lasts and isn't a cunt.

[–]skriker251 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy

Oh nice, thats great, are you alot older then her? I've also got a 19/20 year old interested in me as well, also thinking of pursuing as i am 26 now.

[–]helppc4938383 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy

Shes 20 I'm 21. But she keeps busting my ass about how we don't communicate as much and how "we don't have much in common". Are conversations are like two pieces of a puzzle, anything not related to romance or love or cute she cant do

I wont see her for another 4 months because of quarantine and I don't feel like texting her stories all day dreaming about her cuz that's not me.

I'm not her first fuck but first BF. Shes only had sex once before me.

[–]PM-ME-YOUR-BO0TY4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

If she told you that about her n count, just be ready for the number to actually be higher... What do you say when she nags you about the whole ‘not communicating enough’ thing?

[–]helppc4938387 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

Well I'm not a mind reader but I'm pretty sure shes telling the truth. Shes told me her relationships were all in middle school, and she hooked up with a guy one before me. Her Smv is not that high, so I don't think she'd get a lot of attention from men, shes slightly on the chubby side. Also shes very inexperienced, from what I've gotten from the 15+ times we fucked. Shes also down to try other things like tying her up.

I genuinely care about her well-being.

I've been trying to comfort her, and shes always upset if I don't give her more attention.

For example, it was her last day and I wouldn't have seen her until september OR when quarantine was over. She got mad at me because my mom wouldn't let me leave quarantine, and I didn't comfort her (all I basically said was I'm not allowed to come, please don't be mad) The next day I didn't text her all day until night, and she got mad, worried or a mix of both.

She has been watching those couple vids on youtube and is fixated on building the perfect relationship.

Just now I tried to make conversation asking her what her favourite cartoon was. She said I had to Google it, and that "I feel like we have nothing in common."

I asked her what she meant by that, and she said sorry and said this long distance thing is going to be harder than she thought.

We vibe well in person though

[–]Waymar_Royce4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

I remember my ex constatnly watching that couple/family on youtube, forgot whatever the fuck their name is. When that dude skydived and propsed to his girl, my ex started crying , bitched how she had the worst proposal and wedding, and said that she wishes that in the future she will have someone love her the same way that dude loves his girl. That's where i should've withdrawn and soft nexted her, but I was stupid.

I tried explaining to her that what she sees is just a facade, she got mad and said they never fight because she never sees them fight in a their videos. Girls are fucking dum, delusional, boring, and with the emotional intelligence of a young brat

[–]helppc4938380 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Who broke up with who?

[–]Waymar_Royce0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It was a pretty complicated situation, as she was gonna help me get a green card. I was basically her betabux, but when I saw how much of a whore she is my pride couldn't handle it anymore and I broke it off.

Long distance deterioted our relationship pretty fast , also me being a fatfuck didnt help either lol

[–]KidGrizz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You still young. Sounds like she want to go fuck with someone else. That in common sht is just an excuse. Let that bitch go. If she see grass not greener she will be back. I wouldn’t take her back but that’s on you. If u think she will stay with u the rest of your life and live happy ever after, it’s not gone happen. Not with her acting like that. Just brace yourself cuz she on sum dumb sht. Knowing what I know now, I would give her the option to leave and then I would get other women. Even if she stay I would get other women!

[–]Rick-Scumley12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

You are right dude. Bitches these days need constant validation and instant gratification. It’s sickening but it’s today’s dating scene. I’m glad My buddy put me onto TRP so I can learn how to best use this to my advantage instead of being a friend zoned loser.

[–]RedSkeller0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You’ll just never be enough, she’s used to 50 likes a day, check ins, good mornings and you’re trying to work for a living, hit the gym, chase your passions and make tingles for her. The two lifestyles are almost incompatible.

[–]iVirtualZero0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I don’t really know man. The women i’ve been around with are quite shy, chill, some are honest. But then again i don’t live in the US.

[–]Noodlesoupe212 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

More men are as well too. People are more depressed in general

[–]willbrown726 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

While I agree it is a somewhat alarming trend, I would also argue that psych doctors did not diagnose mental illness nearly to the extent that they do today which I think is a good thing. Also, if you were to present the exact same world as this one but without anti-depressants or anxiety meds, then I would much rather stick with this one than the looney bin world thank ya very much.

[–]trpppp1235 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

Funny you say that, last few chicks I've slept with also had anti-depressant meds in their bathrooms. I think I called one out on it pretending to not know what it was and she said it was to "help her sleep/relax" lol

[–]notWhatIsTheEnd8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

I used to check people's medicine cabinets... When I was a raging drug addict lol. Is this more normal than I though? Great insight seems to be gathered this way.

[–]Rushed774 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hope you didn’t see any valtrex

[–]spcparks0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That or adderall

[–]Snowboard1870 points71 points  (8 children) | Copy

I think a very big part of this behavior is social media. A lot of younger girls are basically full blown narcissistics now because they are basically worshiped on social media. And there is generally no consequences to their actions because yet again, most dudes worship them.

[–]iwviw27 points28 points  (6 children) | Copy

They get worshipped in real life too not just social, it’s because they’re really fine and dudes are really horny. Trust me really hot guys get the exact same energy directed at them. a man needs to be good looking and have swag if he wants top tier looking women.

What I’ve learned recently is the characteristics that make someone a good lay and the characteristics that make someone a good spouse are 2 different things. Sorry but most of the time the best spouses are not the hottest looking ones. It really fucks with your head having people treat you weird because you’re hot. Most of the time your modesty goes out the door.

[–]TheProfitMotive6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bro its called the Madonna / Whore complex. The things that make a woman the perfect whore, are the exact same things that make her the worst Madonna (homebody relationship driven girl).

I spent a year of my life being unhappy with my relationships bc I was trying to find the two things in the sane woman. It DOES NOT EXIST. You can only ever find it in two separate girls. But once you have these two girls you won't need any other girls. I had this for a while with 2 girls, and it was the happiest I've ever been in terms of relationships.

[–]blackbird1932 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

The key word there is swag, socially inept good looking guys are basically inferior beta males, despite their looks

[–]iwviw14 points15 points  (3 children) | Copy

Hot guys can get 5’s pretty damn easy even if the dude is autistic. I think he can get 6-7.5 by literally just opening his mouth and being normal. To get 8’s and up he will need to be slightly above average charisma

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[–]iwviw0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Not caring is sexy tho

[–]dusara2174 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Can confirm. Was socially autistic for years, still had fives and sixes looking at me like a piece of meat.

[–]cman94elder3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I know it is insane. Mildly attractive attractive over weight women put on make up, take 100’s of pictures, put little stupid #’s, quotes and emoji’s to seem deep, get 250+ likes consistently - they think, act and walk around like they are hot shit.

This is why I deleted social media and will soon be getting a modern flip phone or blackberry. It disarms them.

“ Fourth-wave feminists often use print, news, and social media to collaborate and mobilize”

[–]i-am-the-prize41 points42 points  (22 children) | Copy

it's 2 things

  • the external validation hyper-drive of social media rotting them, and their legion of soyboys too afraid to approach/escalate IRL so they show thirst via likes, follows, and orbiting - you see, it hurts less to be ignored on an app than rejected F2F. So that's why they use the app, rejection pain avoidance.
  • you are RedPill'd so you see these women as they are, plain as day. Not "women, can't figure them out!" like some old BP loser at a recent houseparty I was at in 2019. (he actually said "happy wife happy life" and "women, can't figure them out" within 15 min of each other, I thought I was being punked, and looked around for a hidden camera). He was miserable and his wife an out of control bitch. MF'er, I've got your fat cunt wife figured out just fine, it's you who's lost.

I think as the young thots continue their more aggressive AF/BB and CC riding, the amount of rage in BP-nice guys is gonna climb. I predict more angry nice-guys pushed to their breaking point. I am in no way justifying it, but I see it coming. An orbiter/emotional-tampon getting the "you'll meet a nice girl one day... i need to go fuck Chad, bye for now" and just losing his shit being more common as the next crop comes out more and more rotten from HS and college continues their descent.

[–]dtyler8621 points22 points  (11 children) | Copy

100%. 33 years old. I slowly learned redpill on my own after high school and college relationships ending largely because I was insecure, jealous and thought kissing my gfs asses was how to make them care more, be loyal, etc. welp. After one turned into a modern feminist in college and acted like one, the next 5 year LTR cheated, you bet your ass you’ll learn a few lessons. Now it’s me watching my also 33 year old friends ask their wives and gfs permission to go out for a beer (never granted, obedient hubby stays home), you can’t not deal with this useless thot culture and not emerge a redpilled, driven and better man. If you don’t evolve and learn, you deserve the spoils of beta

[–]Unlikely_Composer20 points21 points  (3 children) | Copy

The line about men asking for permission to go get a beer made me feel sick. I’d honestly rather just die alone than have my entire existence as a man controlled like this. But any man who allows someone to control them like that isn’t a fucking man.

[–]Smuggler-Tuek13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

All of my friends are like this. All of them. If I inquire why they have to ask permission it’s usually “cuz I wanna stay married bro haha.” I agree, it’s sickening.

[–]dtyler867 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

When they tell me, eh, she’s not feelin’ it (wife is sober, or gf is always sick) I want to puke, find new friends and punch a wall.

[–]RedSkeller3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yup, my friend lives 4+ hours and I’d go visit him, his GF would get a migraine every time and then we couldn’t go out together. I gave up on him after a few tries.

[–]i-am-the-prize9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

It is pathetic. (for the record, fuck that. my LTR knows my season sports tickets with my bro's are for me. my guy trips are for me. my whiskey/beer/cards nights are for me - and ALL non negotiable). it starts early, set the Frame. Hold Frame. Don't be a bitch.

So, not only do you need to maintain male friendships, your woman needs to know that you go out, without her, and miss her zippy during that time. she needs to remember that you exist without her. she needs to "smell fish on you... to act right":

^^ I keep posting this in some of my comments... sorry not sorry. it's fucking gold.

[–]jagdecat5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hallejujah Bro. Same story *fist bump*

[–]seefromabove2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

my also 33 year old friends ask their wives and gfs permission to go out for a beer (never granted, obedient hubby stays home),

Cutting somebody off their habitual social circle is a basic thing done to increase control over the victim. It is done by authoritarian cults, pimps and these thots. Notice that wives always have their brunches or girls' nights out, etc.

[–]dtyler861 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yep! My Gf says similar things like, you don’t like when I go our with my girls. Funny thing is, her girls are half single and half with older men that won’t marry them (wealthy men). So the single ones want to go to clubs to act like skanks (all late twenties), girls with LTRs wont let their bfs come. No shit i don’t want my gf going to that kind of environment. I’m always like, good. Go. Meet your new BF

[–]seefromabove0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Realistically, nothing can stop anyone from cheating, it doesn't take that long. So fretting over that isn't useful. It's like obsessing over competition in business. The only constructive way to handle it is to make yourself better. Your customers may try someone else's product, the goal is to make them stay with you long term.

girls with LTRs wont let their bfs come

That's telling.

I’m always like, good. Go. Meet your new BF

This is a jealousy test. You sound upset even through text here.

This below is old PUA advice but I implemented it with good results. My LDR LTR hinted at other guys a couple of times. I replied, verbatim,

"No problem, sleep with him if you want. Just use condoms, safety first. Actually, it would be interesting for me to screw him while he's screwing you. This way, well reach closeness with you that's not possible to reach by other means". She was shocked

I added themes of my homosexual domination over another man here. I'm not homo, but dominant gays are SUPER dominant. This trick was copied from old PUAs.

Also, I showed that I didn't really care that much. When we walked down the street, I would even point out to her guys who checked her out and say, " See, others approve of my choice ;)".

She never repeated those conversations again. I don't know, of course, if she actually slept with anybody. But, I know that not too many men could give her 5-8 orgasms per session, so that helped my unique value :) Also, I spent a long time on sex, foreplay, and afterplay. I enjoy it. She called me her sultan several times (she was Middle Eastern) and didn't play those games again. We still broke up in 3 years because of her disrespect, even though she wanted to stay with me.

[–]party_dragon1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

2 things I never understood:

1) Asking for permission to live your life

2) Obeying when someone tells you that you can't sleep in your bed

Castration is no longer necessary if you've got men (people) who do this

[–]dtyler860 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Especially number 2. Hellllll no

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

I predict more angry nice-guys pushed to their breaking point.

to be honest i'm glad.

not cos i want these dudes shooting up schools or anything like that.

but because i want SOMETHING to wake these dudes up. the simping has to stop. Cos all i see around me is guys being little pussys around women. even dudes with girlfriends are fucking whipped as fuck and it's disgusting.

guys need to wakedafuckup. cos these girls are just... ARGH, don't even get me started.

[–]longjeep20052 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don’t think it’s ever going to stop, as long as social media is around

[–]jackandjill224 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Something will happen. There's no telling tho.

[–]Ravenanom5 points6 points  (6 children) | Copy


You're over-estimating them. A handful may have the capacity to do something about their anger, but majority are pacified. Video games, internet, porn, even robot 'girls' now. Their mind is broken to the point that they don't want to actually see what's going on. I mean really, we all came from that place. We all know how much delusion we pumped ourselves with before discovering trp.

I dont mind. Let them be happy with the scraps. I'll dine on the actual meal.

[–]jackandjill227 points8 points  (5 children) | Copy

No, something's going to snap. What's good for you isn't good in general. Stop being a jackass.

[–]Ravenanom1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

I'm not being a jackass. Do you think the state the relationship between men and women in this world is in now a good one? No. I'm just tired of caring about people that don't want to change.

No matter how many times I screwed up with trp fundamentals, deep down, I was seeking to better myself. If someone doesnt have the capacity to want better for themselves, no amount of change or advice will change them.

Obviously what's good for the few isnt good for the majority, but if the majority don't have the will or tenacity to want more, you cant give it to them. All you can do is show them you living your best. It's up to them to figure out if that's is truly what they want.

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

You're a dumbass. Why do you think we're cornered & women are winning the public fight? We eat each other you idiot. If we cannot even agree on a modicum of things then in the long-term we can kiss our asses good bye.

I'm not saying you have to Fuck them. I'm not even saying you have to actively help them. But don't railroad/shit on them. It's our fight.

[–]Ravenanom1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Lol, okay I'm sorry for thinking big minded.

Bro....women aren't the enemy..... This isn't a war between "waman" and men. This is about improvement of your life from a loser to a capable man. I want people to be better, to improve their lives and become whole people, because that's the type of society I want to live in. For this, I'm striving to be the person who I envision is a good role model.

If I offer a friend advice on how to be a better person and he rejects that advice, ok, that's on him. If he accepts the advice, again, thats on him. People have choice to do and be what they want.

Your frame is wrong and so is mine to an extent but I'm working on it. Stop viewing things as 'right's and 'erong', 'us' vs 'them'. Women are doing exactly what they're programmed to do. Why hate the program? Learn from it, and use it. Spread your knowledge so others can use it.

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

No. That libertarian shits played out homie

[–]Ravenanom0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I know. But what exactly do you propose instead? I made that comment in jest, but I really don't see a way forward unless we have a total overhaul of how we view everything. Anything less is like patching up a sinking ship.

[–]Fabulous-Craft32 points33 points  (4 children) | Copy

I don't think women are getting worse. Women are women.

Men are getting worse. More men are rejecting masculinity and embracing being beta, to the point they are proud of their lack of masculinity.

So what happens? Women are showered with beta affection even when it's undeserved. Of course 5/10s think they are hot shit because they have 99 likes on tinder with thirsty betas willing to worship them.

[–]cheepdogg6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

This can't be upvoted enough

[–]thoroughlythrown4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly, women will behave as badly as they think they can get away with. A dearth of masculine, strong men means they'll run wild.

[–]imjustaman931 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Needy porn watching unmotivated energy drained fucks who never read Models.

So easy to be great these days in this sea full of beta fucks.

[–]hashtagplayed0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Women want to be men. They want to be the one with the gun while the man is tied up on his knees and an apple in his mouth. Not all men can magically understand the dating game from the moment they are born. Dating can take years or decades for a man to get good at once they become teenagers or young adults. Women love to take advantage of nice guys.

[–]trpppp12347 points48 points  (10 children) | Copy

Young chicks are always more dramatic, but the attention whore levels, out right sluttiness, and open displays of this desire for the CC while shaming betas is quite revolting. They used to be more subtle about it.

Yup, I'm nearing 30 and very much seeing this as well. I think it's pretty unfortunate we've come to this level of open promiscuity and I really don't think healthy long-term relationships can come out of our current mainstream model. And really, individually, you can't really change this, and all you can do is accept this and behave accordingly.

For those of us on TRP, this is probably in the form of spinning plates and not really investing in any one girl (enjoy the decline).

Then there is MGTOW who decided to checkout of the sexual market.

And then there is mainstream, which is accept their promiscuity, deal with your "insecurities" and wife these girls up so they can teach the same behaviour to your future daughters. Whether this is good long term or not as a species remains to be seen I guess.

They also seem to just not know what good behavior is anymore without being told. It's worse and worse each generation. Like, what healthy boundaries are in relationships, how to act etc. They don't even hide this shit. My theory is social media as it grew it made them worse and worse as it goes on, especially the youngest "crops" (18-22).

Yep. Ranging from being friends with exes, getting plastered on girls nights out while having a boyfriend, having ex fuck buddies in their friend circles, etc. Again, what you can actually do about their behaviour is close to nil so don't let it occupy your thoughts I guess.

One more thing i've noticed is they absolutely dominate most men now. They don't want relationships anymore, just attention and an army of suitors to maintain. they dont want romance. It's the guys that want all this shit these days in their age brackets and the women manipulate them with it lol

The younger generation is definitely worse when it comes to this and it's because of how much abundance a decent to good looking woman has at that age. As they reach 30 and they see themselves in the mirror with looks declining, I promise you things start to change, they now want to settle down and "have wanted kids and a nice guy all their life but just couldn't find one". Right, spending their prime years hopping on CC and now that they have 1-2 years left of prime age, they want a man to wife them up.

Don't know what to say brother, accept that this is the world we are living in now. Opt-out of marriage/commitments and hopefully the pendulum will swing the other way in the future for future generations.

[–]jackandjill2211 points12 points  (4 children) | Copy

Very depressing/accurate description.

[–]dtyler8612 points13 points  (3 children) | Copy

I imagine this may likely be a regional thing. I know it’s likely exactly what you’re all saying about social media, but I live near Miami. Holy fuck, the narcissism down here, uselessness; it’s another level. My female friends and some friends’ gfs don’t do literally anything. It’s not even comical like, oh, let me see how much I can get guys to do for me, it’s like they aspire to be unemployed, boring, commanding, slutty, tatted up, drunk or hungover always and have this Lana del ray, live fast die young attitude.

[–]redhorndog6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

live fast die young attitude.

Good for a race car driver not so much for thots. Who anyways realise their pussy is only valuable till their late 20s then the guys dont want them or their baggage.

[–]dtyler86-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

That’s the great joke we all have a laugh about over here. I’ve developed my golden rule of 18. Never date a girl that is at any point 18 in your relationship. Either she is 18 and shortly after, maybe by 20, grows into a monster thot, you’re in high school, date her from 16, around 18/19 she’s a cheating attention whore, or 18 and years later she’s bored and cheats

[–]redhorndog2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

Yep. Ranging from being friends with exes, getting plastered on girls nights out while having a boyfriend, having ex fuck buddies in their friend circles, etc. Again, what you can actually do about their behaviour is close to nil so don't let it occupy your thoughts I guess.

Actually you can. Either walk off or set a strong frame from the beginning about what is tolerable/acceptable behaviour.

But yeah with the options these girls have and the attention they have they think they can control a RP guy and when he actually walks away that's when they realized they fucked up.

As they reach 30 and they see themselves in the mirror with looks declining, I promise you things start to change, they now want to settle down and "have wanted kids and a nice guy all their life but just couldn't find one". Right, spending their prime years hopping on CC and now that they have 1-2 years left of prime age, they want a man to wife them up.

And many have an inflated sense of worth. When a guy actually rejects them their ego cant handle shit.

[–]trpppp1231 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Actually you can. Either walk off or set a strong frame from the beginning about what is tolerable/acceptable behaviour. But yeah with the options these girls have and the attention they have they think they can control a RP guy and when he actually walks away that's when they realized they fucked up.

Right, I meant more broadly speaking. You might not personally have to deal with it, but there's plenty of BP dudes who will accept it. Also, it's getting more and more common, so you'll start to go without pussy if you walk away from every chick like this. I'd try to keep them at plate/FWB level for this behavior rather than just walking away.

[–]redhorndog0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I agree too many simps and men actually allow girls to be friends with exes and normalize that shit. Its quite disgusting.

[–]BlondeHornyElf0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

And then there is mainstream, which is accept their promiscuity, deal with your "insecurities" and wife these girls up so they can teach the same behaviour to your future daughters. Whether this is good long term or not as a species remains to be seen I guess.

Honestly dude I'm in my 30s now and I don't know what to do. I broke up with an overall decent girl in my 20s before because I couldn't get over her past... She dated a buddy of mine for 3 months and then cheated on him to be with me (she told me they weren't really an item and I really liked her so I proceeded, but I later found out she took his virginity and it broke his heart.. I felt terrible about this) and she also had an ONS with a buddy of mine from work (within like two weeks of meeting him) that I found out about after we got involved. I really loved this girl for a bunch of reasons but I just couldn't justify committing to her.. When she put me through shit in our relationship I couldn't justify it considering I saw her as too easy and untrustworthy in the back of my mind. I thought she'd mature through her early to mid 20s but she didn't so I called it quits.

The problem is that I haven't found any "good girls" since.. I've dated chicks hotter than my ex and have had some affectionate and hot-n-heavy affairs, but I just can't find a girl that I can truly respect. The only girl that I found who seemed wifey material had physical disfigurement under her clothes ffs.. and without that she'd be just the same as the rest I bet.

My parents married as virgins at around 20 so I grew up with the idea that this is how a relationship should be. They've been married over 30 years and are still cute with each other and I just always figured this was the goal people were working towards, but it's not.

We're unironically living through the apocalypse of love, relationships, and family... And I honestly don't think I can accept marrying some cum-dumpster feminist after dating so many women and seeing what they're really like and how carelessly/selfishly they behave. Marriage doesn't add up in my head.

Just need to vent man but I honestly don't know what to do and I feel like having a normal life is basically impossible now..

[–]trpppp1230 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hey brother. I understand and can relate to your frustration. I could go into this loads with my struggles in LTRs with girl pasts but I won't do that. You get better at dealing with the feeling, but I'd say it still remains for the most part, it seems to be hard to unplug from it. They key for this getting better is probably having your share of a past too I think.

I think this is where you really have to accept and embrace plate theory and don't go looking for LTRs and keep spinning them until one deserves your exclusivity; work on getting rid of the marriage/love story model. It does not exist in this day and age.

In fact, it never existed probably, social conventions and pressures made marriage more plausible. With the invention of the internet, social media, dating apps, etc. dick is available in major abundance for women. Dick was always abundant, but now it's not just your neighbourhood, but the entire world. The feminine imperative also tells women this doesn't matter. Add all these up and you get a generation of slutty women.

I don't have an answer for you but TRP would say enjoy the decline I guess.

[–]kellykebab21 points22 points  (8 children) | Copy

What I find especially bizarre is how many completely normal, not even "alternative"-looking 4's, 5's, and 6's are getting into OnlyFans, selling nudes, cam shows, etc. These aren't even hot girls nor are they especially wild looking.

15 or 20 years ago, these girls would have had to find a literal pimp or a professional pornographer to get into the sex industry, but now they can rake in hundreds and thousands of dollars with little to no risk or effort. Totally disgusting.

[–]Useeikill5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

We have yet to see the consequences, but whereas before the risk of these literal whores was a beating from their pimps or clients, now and in the future it will be their faces and nude bodies that they stream online being picked up by some face detect(or body detect) AI.

I reckon their daily life is going to be plagued and poisoned by their shameless ethot activities.

[–]Modredpillschool7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Turns out an inch of cleavage is enough to control most men.

[–]Hungboy69694206 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

The nude selling game is insane rn especially with the current economic status. Women all signing up on onlyfans, premium snap , seeking etc to sell nudes and offer "online relationship"

[–]Modredpillschool9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

What's crazy to me is why a guy would be like.. free porn? No thanks! I'm going to send money to this skanky 3.

[–]Hungboy69694202 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed but they feel like the nudes from said thot are personal unlike porn. Not that I agree but this is what I hear from women

[–]justanalt3190 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

because skanky 3 knew the art of male seduction, and targeted the lonely. Whores only come out after the nightclub closes, no one is standing at the nightclub entrance.

[–]TheProfitMotive1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

No, it's harder than you think to make money on OF. The problem as you might have guessed is that literally every female is selling more or less the same product, so it's actually only the ones who have a business savvy man behind them that make good money consistently

The one key thing to remember is women are also not motivated by money. They're only motivated by attention & fun. So once girls have enough cash to buy the dumb crap they want to buy they tend to pull the foot off the gas

[–]kellykebab2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fair enough.

I'm not really so interested in how much money these women are making so much as the activity itself. If they all only made $5, I would still be disturbed.

[–]SerialATA_Killer10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Strong men created good times, the good times turned men into weak soy boys, weak men welcomed bad times of pedestal-ing and attention whoring, and now we have to complete the cycle by becoming strong men to fix the bad times.

Also this: " 'The children now love luxury; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are tyrants, not servants of the households. They no longer rise when their elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize over their teachers.' " - Literally Socrates

[–]hoopingblob8 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy

Our civilization is moving to an end and a new Era will begin.

Money is losing its value

Old people and sick people die left and right

Most men don't reproduce and most women took control

Eastern Europe is at war once again and this will change the whole dynamic of the UN

The internet is making us lazy and soft

The environment is dying

Gentlemen, this is the beginning of the end. Our end. Once all of this has been destroyed and we got out of the endulgment of Chaos and grasp our true nature again. All of this will be over. The world will find balance again and this time we won't try to destroy the world. No, this time we work with Nature and we will know our place in the Universe.

[–]Azora0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Problem is we have nukes that'll most likely be used before this all really goes down.

[–]hoopingblob0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I doubt it. Humans are ignorant but not stupid.

[–]Azora0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You just have to look at Hiroshima and Nagasaki for examples. The bikini atoll. Chernobyl.

[–]hoopingblob0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes those cases where when the bomb was discovered and they didn't know what damage it will do. They only keep those bombs as a power sign (look at us! We have the best bombs).

Chernobyl Was an accident by a reactor not a bomb.

I don't think they will use something as old as bombs. I think war will be digitalized and drones will be used more often than soldiers.

A bomb? Maybe as a last resort. A nuclear bomb? Highly unlikely to happen. It is a possibility but the chances of a nuclear war are slim. Very slim.

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[–]Modredpillschool11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

If history teaches us anything, it's that women always double down.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Can confirm

[–]AlgaeEater15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well obviously yeah. Ive seen some make instagrams only in hopes of becoming the next big 'ethot's. Attention seeking. I've seen some screenshot pictures of hikes they found online.. and post them on their IG's as if they did the hike, to make it seem like they're out and about.

Every chick I've met is on some kind of antidepressant, and their for it. Few months ago I told off a chick by saying, "You only message me when you're sad so fuck off" And she was embarrassed as hell.

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to be honest all the alpha guys are engaging in the same drama, cheating, narcissism etc. etc.

i think it's just the modern social media age etc. etc. that's turning the younger generations into pieces of shit.

and i'm 22 with a notch count of 40 saying this. all my friends cheat, lie and manipulate girls/their girlfriends.

all the alpha guys i know treat girls like shit to be honest. whether it's overtly and covertly.

and of course the girls are doing the same thing and all the stuff you mentioned.

i'm not saying this to say that "men are bad too". i'm saying this because i think it's our society in general and the results of social media that has made things go in this direction.

as a guy in the thick of the younger generation who is participating and observing. right now at this point it just looks like beta guys are just a laughing stock while the girls and alpha guys run around being retards out to get theirs and treating each other like shit.

enjoy the decline indeed.

[–]cman94elder0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You are soooo right. In college I had Chad friends and they’d devour women emotionally and always cheated.

[–]BruhMoment4588639 points40 points  (3 children) | Copy

Oh yeah. I hate a majority of the girls at my college. They're all narcissistic children.

Makes me wonder what my future is going to be like. Maybe when I get older I can date Zoomers.

[–]RP_utiliser25 points26 points  (2 children) | Copy

you think gen z is any better its literally 10x worse than what is described its fucked

[–]notWhatIsTheEnd18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy

The name Zoomers just makes me think of a bunch of pre teens shooting synthetic stimulants and getting weird on VR social media lol.

[–]TacticalPolonium12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

The West is just another empire foreseeing its demise.

[–]Beginning_Cheesecake6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yes. High school is a good example of the next generation of women

When I was school chicks had some decency and they were AFRAID of being labeled “school slut”. But my sister graduated last year and according to her... pretty much every girl is a slut. To be labeled a “school slut” you have to be REALLY wild. “Hookup culture” is a thing now in high school.

Social media makes it worse. With the creation of “thirst traps”. Imagine seeing the hottest girl in your grade post a thong/bra pic on Instagram and then sitting next to her in class the next day.

There’s more but the next batch of women make the current batch look like saints

[–]cman94elder0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It is true. The current girls in HS are crazy horny and sluts. I literally had a 15 flirt with me IRL; they are taught to love Good Dick, social media and women like Cardi B. In the inner city women openly have sex in public.

[–]BornShook6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ever think you're just getting more mature? Wouldn't that make 100x more sense?

[–]TheRealYuno14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah you're right. Monogamous relationships have been dead for a long time now and it's only getting worse. It's part of a much bigger depopulation agenda that MGTOW and most people in TRP don't know about but has been going on for decades, long before this whole issue with women. (Follow the money)

The best advice I can give you is get damn good at social engineering. Read books, watch videos, practice on people. Also build a Friends-with-benefits group of women and don't get too emotionally invested in any of them.

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[–]Narcius9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

But you know it works both ways. The narcissistic ego is very fragile because to an extent they know that they are not worth shit. Social Media status doesn't mean squat. It's like watching porn and masturbating for guys. You get an orgasm after you ejaculate but don't necessarily feel happy about it. Why? Because it's not sex with a real woman. The same is for them

Social media and such give a bloated ego boost. There are girls who won't reply to you on social media because they are high in the social hierarchy in that setting. But in real life, that shit doesn't work. One-on-One you can break any narcissistic bitch's ego in a manner of minutes.

It's like my 5 ft 7' friend said, "Bitches say I don't date short guys. I don't give a fuck what they say." And he banged a lot of chicks. They believe they're better because you validate what they say. Don't care for people's words or their belief that they are better than you. They, like you, are filled with shit.

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[–]iwviw11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

There is no slut shaming anymore. Basically their acting like dudes.

[–]Hungboy69694205 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women slut sham other women

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[–]AugerCastPiles-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

women are women and you have to love them for what they are

simp energy

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[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

The last generation of decent women are now in their late 30s. RIP. Here's to finding a unicorn...

[–]FW-190A8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

If you live in the US, then yes. I was horrified to find out that most girls have the same behavior. Insane narcissism, they are all fake and they have this annoying way of talking like "oh my God, gurl did you see that? Blablabla" and all they care about is shopping. Fake, plastic, ignorant, empty creatures.

[–]Chosen_1_11627 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

any female born after 1993 can’t cook... all they know is mcdonald’s , charge they phone, twerk, be bisexual , eat hot chip & lie

[–]cman94elder0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I know. I hate American women.

[–]Noodlesoupe24 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

people in general have gotten worse. Look how many cumbrained video game addicted simps running around and you’ll see why women chase chad

[–]Mr-Ed2094 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Status has been robbed from young men to the point where its virtually non existent; while women's has been artificially inflated beyond belief. Women chase status for themselves and that status used to come from being in a relationship with a high value man. There was a time that being single as a woman was a source of shame; girls without boyfriends would be pressured by their peers and family to get one - and rich successful one at that. Was that really all that bad? It was surely a preferable setup for both sexes as to what we have now.

Today it's the complete opposite. Women are gaining status in a race to the bottom way. I think it's a consequence of many high status activities that used to be difficult to obtain in the past becoming far more accessible to the masses. College education used to be reserved for the few academic and studious; now everyone attends and artificially earns the status as college student. Travelling and backpacking used to be the reserve of privileged sons/daughters of wealthy middle class families; who used it to bolster their 'extra cirricular' section of their college resume. Now anyone can hop on a budget airline to Thailand and pet a tiger for instagram likes.

Status used to be earned through meritocracy, attend a good college, form strong relationships. Now it's just a pissing in the wind contest. Sure you might win at the look cool on social media game for a few years; but the rest of your life is going to be appalling.

[–]tyrantgrey3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

The label keeps getting pushed further back. Bonnie and Clyde, when it was first released, was considered a violent film.

Today you have violence even worse than that on daytime television.

This is happening with everything. With the normalization of free sex, women constantly tell each other newer and more “exciting” gossip.

Men gave up their duty to be the moral vanguard when they decided to make women into men. Women lost that fear of men. And i don’t mean the fear that makes you afraid. I mean the kind of fear that inspires awe in you or gives you a sense of a person’s majesty it magnitude. They still have it for chad, cuz chad is the guy you wanna be.

By the time they get married, they have had all the experience with other men of life they’re supposed to experience with their husbands.

It’s a cultural destruction. Well, it’s global now. I imagine world war III will happen either in my lifetime or my children’s lifetime.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy

I'm 34 and I just got done dating a 23 year old for a year and let me tell you the level of bratty entitlement combined with pure laziness was astonishing. It's like she had never been told no her entire life and never done any work. Couldn't cook or clean. Whined and cried when she didn't get her way. Just absolutely worthless.

[–]fckchk0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Late and reading comments.. it took you a year?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

She came and went until I had enough

[–]fckchk0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Hm. Seems like a lot to put up with and no positive aspects.. Must be lost without you, haha.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Sex was good. As soon as I wasn't getting what I wanted I cut things off. My favorite part is when they call you a loser after begging you lmao

[–]fckchk1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wonder what her post would say about you now lmao

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (6 children) | Copy

You answered your own question. This is why it's most beneficial to stay single, fuck around, pump and dump, then fucking ghost every girl you meet.

[–]jackandjill227 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

It's getting worse though, yes we get it enjoy the decline but, quality is definitely trending downwards. Like the normal is unmistakably becoming less & less fit for social relations of any kind at all. They have no value. Sex is their only value.

[–]Hungboy69694202 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

And honestly if you fuck them a few times, or even once, you've gotten all their value

[–]Just1515[S] 23 points24 points  (3 children) | Copy

Its horrific. I cant imagine starting a relationship with the current generation of women...

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy

The only relationship that's practical right now is a no strings attached, sex only kind of deal. Fuck feelings.

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[–]lildaley625 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Just delete social media it’s easy

[–]Hungboy69694201 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yea I've cut waay back and it makes a big difference. I have FB for events and an insta to confirm women I meet online look like their pics

[–]DTron23322 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oh yeah, the alpha fucks side of younger women is very apparent, and dominates what they want sexually from other men. You’d be surprised how many guys just want a relationship, or a women’s shoulder to cry on, compared to women that just want to be fucked hard by the guy the meets their fantasies.

Women are social creatures, even if they’re shy or not that much into attention seeking, they’ll do it because it’s “normal” and what every other girl does. Hypergamy is at its highest, which suits the 20% of men that enjoy fucking them. I can’t complain, but only play my cards right.

[–]gleeeshy15 points16 points  (2 children) | Copy

sorry man, but no. Is THIS really what asktrp is? The red pill has never been about shaming women for being women. The truth is that women want what theyve always wanted, they are just better at getting it now.

" thing i've noticed is they absolutely dominate most men now. They don't want relationships anymore, just attention and an army of suitors to maintain. they dont want romance. "

yup, and neither do most REAL men. Given the choice between endless girls looking to suck you up and some bullshit soul crushing marriage, what, YOURE gonna take the romance? Nobody is.

Truth is the feminist movement wised women up. They realized they could all fuck the same 10% of guys and increase the value of the pussy 1000x, as the remaining 90% of men are quite desperate and easy exploited by their 30's.

Theres absolutely no reason men couldnt do the same, and give the dick/commitment up to only the top 10% of females. Its just that as a gender us men are infected by a cancer known as beta as fuck orbiters and unfortunately it has spread deep and far. Women, on the other hand, while being just as horny as men, are much stronger as a gender when it comes to actually giving sex up to a quality person.

[–]unn4med6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good points, and I wish this was higher. Much higher. Women don’t have anywhere near the same sex drive, though. Don’t be silly

[–]Hungboy69694205 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Alot of the last point you make is biological. Men are supposed to fuck like jack rabbits and spread their seed. Women should be more picky when it comes to sex

[–]willbrown7211 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy

I’m getting so sick of the “god these young women and their dang phones” posts. I’m a 20 year old so I’m still young and in this generation of people that use their phones excessively, and sure girls have never had validation sources to the scope of now, but at the end of the day women still want the same tingles. So my advice would be if you’re not in the generation of people where this is a problem, then don’t date in that generation. Otherwise, find a girl that’s not like that. It’s not that hard.

[–]MarylandLion5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah these dudes pursue ethots and act like it’s every girl, it’s kind of pathetic. Yet they blame women for poor choice in their male partners. Obviously AWALT, but not every woman out their is maintaining a long list of beta orbiters and baiting them for attention using Instagram.

[–]cman94elder0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

True. It is not most women.

[–]Transport1272 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Its a combination of many things such as social media, feminism, liberalism etc. western countries especially US is increasingly becoming an inhospitable place for men. Men are losing masculinity and becoming SIMLP cocks, whereas women becoming narcissistic bitches. Very discussing!!

[–]Jake_Featherston4 points5 points  (9 children) | Copy

Single women who grew up without fathers (or anyone else that might have instilled a sense of moral order in them; their mothers are almost invariably just their eldest peer), typically spiral into self-destruction. That used to be a minority of American women. Now it's the majority. Feminism, and Egalitarian Fundamentalism more generally (or "social justice", as its adherents like to style it) must be rooted out of this society like the plague that it is. If we don't do that, our society will literally be destroyed. We'll be replaced by some other race of men who aren't afraid to tell their women "no".

[–]cman94elder0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy

Some other race of men?

[–]Jake_Featherston0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

Please feel free to use whatever taxonomical designation you prefer. The point is, we'll be extinct, and someone else will (presumably) be living here in our stead. I really don't know or care who that other people will be. All I know is, I don't want to continue down the road to extinction. But if & once we are extinct, then our successors will have nothing but my posthumous best wishes.

[–]cman94elder0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

What dude? By Taxonomy you mean Caucasoid, Mongoloid, and Negroid which is an outdated theory on human race?

Yes in future generations people may look different. Forcing Polish people to only mate with Polacks or Koreans-with-Koreans makes weird, odd and in time, weird, closed off and genetically inferior off spring.

The white man won’f die out. The idea of a Nordic man was just realized several years ago. Today algo trading rules all.

I am fucked up but yea...

[–]Jake_Featherston0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Are you deliberately trying to bore me?

[–]cman94elder0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Idc about you. You are nobody.

[–]Jake_Featherston1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

What did you say, Hambone?

[–]cman94elder0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

LOL!! I am jewish I also wrote this high af on cocaine and drunk... returning to wall street soon. I can kick your ass and rape your mother. Fuck off inferior male!

[–]Jake_Featherston0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

LOL, is this supposed to bother me?

[–]cman94elder0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No, i forgot about you. Legit.

[–]RabbidMan3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Definitely. I really hope I never have a daughter one day. I want all boys lol.

[–]cman94elder1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I know having a daughter today would feel so fucking wrong. Women are trouble. Now I know why they buried them in the middl east and china only wants boys.

[–]Murdochsk1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Instagram/social media/tinder and attention from everywhere due to mobile phones caused this

[–]RPOpenUp1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes it's getting worse and worse. Not just the US, but EU aswell. Social media is destroying their feminine behaviour. They get validation all the time. They are addicted to the constant high and if they don't get it, they get frustrated. Also. Social media enables people to gather in groups with people that think the same. So a lot of circle jerking which messes up their view of the world. Sadly, some women turn into nothing more then a thing to put your dick in. Gone are the sweet personalities that you like to stick around

[–]Greaterbird1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Are they really worse.. or are you better and they look worse now in comparison? I'm getting kind of tired of immaturity too.

[–]Gawernator1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’m 26 going on 27. My college aged friend 22 seems to think so. It seems like even the gap from 18 year olds to current 25-30 is big

[–]mysteryspoN1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Yep - social media has fucked their dopamine levels so by attention seeking they can reach similar dopamine levels. They’re crazy man. I went out with an 18 year old who went absolutely psycho after I had sex then never spoke to her again.

[–]cman94elder0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Hahahaha noooo - she is going to become thottamis-prime now

[–]mysteryspoN0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I’m hoping so... don’t think she’s been with a guy since me... I hope she finds a new guy so she still doesn’t feel like my responsibility lmao. I hate psycho women. That’s why “sluts” aren’t even a bad thing as they dont get emotionally attached

[–]cman94elder0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, they just want some good dick and to be dominated.

[–]cman94elder1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I agree many younger women today don’t want Romance. They are addicted to social media and see their sexual conquest as “slaying”. Women today are also more openly hostile to men and proud sluts.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Perhaps you should re-direct your attention to the 25-30 y.o. crowd who are overall more emotionally mature and waste less time on platforms like instagram and TikTok.

[–]Hungboy6969420-3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy

True yet they're also less attractive unless they age well / workout

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

And those who do work out/ eat well/ are well educated and level-headed are often more attractive than you’re average 18-22 y.o. But they’ve also got much higher standards when it comes to dating.

[–]Purplegetraenk0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Of coarse. Thanks to social media young teenage girls idolize whores (kardashians etc.) no wonder they are having sex at age 12 13 already.

[–]cman94elder0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

[–]PolesWithGoals0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

They’re just notoriously shitty from ages 18-22 (college age). Don’t think they’ve gotten worse overall but instagram has had an effect on them

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[–]prettyflamazing0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes women are getting dozens or even hundreds of orbiters that feed their attention cravings and dopamine receptors starting at 12. This is definitely from social media. Zoomer men aren't any better either.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

They still go crazy for alpha dick though, just lift bro.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I would stay off social media like tik tok or Instagram or Facebook. Actually going out and meeting woman, regardless of if they're slurs or not, you'll benefit in your game. Or, you get lucky sometimes.

Also, "simp", is a meme. Don't use it legitimately. Its cringey as fuck.

[–]PRW630 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So you are just figuring this out now? Yes, that is all true, and has been moving like that for a long time.

[–]jsphere2560 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I see it as the result of your own standards going up with age. It's a sign that you're attaining personal growth and increased social status that you can rightfully look with contempt on the slovenly ignorance of youth.

[–]Diche_Bach0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think of it like a natural selection process. Yeah, "they" probably are getting worse. But that means ">~50% of them are getting worse" not 99% and probably not even 75%. Long-term all these hoes are going to be pathetic, miserable, tatted up, roastie middle-aged losers, and over time this will act to REDUCE the incidence of this type of female in humanity.

Society changes in wave forms and pendulum effects . . .

Why the fuck would you expect to go out in your front yard and find diamonds laying around? You gotta fucking prospect and SEARCH for those scarce, coveted valuable resources.

I bagged my spouse nearly 40 years ago and she was DEFINITELY in the 1% even back then. Yeah sure, changes in society, social media, the vast mobile electronic network commons, it may well have shifted the manifestation of the Whore distribution noticeably toward the "they are getting worse" end of the continuum. But females who were not good long-term prospects have ALWAYS been a thing and will always be a thing. The fact that current society is creating the appearance of more of them and perhaps even creating more of them doesn't change the fundamental nature of the distribution of the types in humanity.

All this to say: stop wasting your time dealing with the throwaways at all. Learn to spot them, teach yourself what you REALLY want, analyze how to search for it, and go fucking find it.

[–]Domebeers0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'll take the attitude of a 18-22 year old any day of the week over the attitude of the social media infected 27+ year old.

[–]aegeaorgnqergerh0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'd suggest you're over-generalising and should probably stop chasing women way too young for you.

It's that same old cognitive bias - Rosy Introspection, in other words "things used to be better in my day".

If you're experiencing this universally with women (of any age group) you probably need to diversify your social groups and/or stop going after the wrong people.

[–]thestreets100 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think you're wrong. I really don't get posts like this. Just a post to complain about you struggling to get girls 18 to 22 because it must be their fault!

[–]Kratz1770 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I couldn’t agree more.

Nowadays most of them are getting guys to pay them money to see their pictures(only fans) and to play video games with them.

Legal prostitution(which is coming) will be the hard reset where most of these guys stop caring and move on. That’s when you’ll have see girls trying more like in Poland. Don’t believe the “doom and gloom” crowd I believe America has it worst.

[–]wyota-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

What do you mean "healthy boundaries in relationships"? Idk if you're talking about infidelity, but men are more likely to cheat.

[–]Just1515[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Since when do you have to tell a woman that encouraging men to flirt with her is not appropriate in a relationship?

[–]wyota0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I feel you. Social media has made them even more attention-seeking.

[–]priapula-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

No wtf. Stop hanging out with sluts and emotionally damaged trash whores. Girls are people. People are worse than other people, people are better than other people. If you look, you can find good girls, you just have to be in the right groups

[–]Just1515[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Im generalizing. I thought that was obvious.

[–]archieluxury3-5 points-4 points  (4 children) | Copy

Solution to this is to date women 55+ the perks are they are experienced in how to treat a real man, they are experienced in sex and usually have good finances. I’m 27 and refuse to date women my age ever since I have gotten a taste of good old aged pussy

[–]Jake_Featherston1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I was born in 1970, and that was pretty much my policy in the 90s. It's good for the individual, but unfortunately not for society. Because we still need men to breed with young women.

[–]Hungboy69694201 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I've considered an AF/BB model for men. Hangout with one or a couple of post wall women and extract resources (let's be honest, post wall women are doing pretty well financially rn if you know where to look), and fuck some young thots on the side.

[–]kendo310 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That's one way to go about it... If your don't want kids or someone to walk through the same stages of life with. The emotional maturity can be there but you always take on someone's assumptions and scars. The older you are, the more scars there will be and not all are resolved into a life lesson to share peacefully.

[–]Rushed770 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Is this real life

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