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[Mod] Spam policy and the shameless self promotion issue

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October 8, 2015

So we've noticed and got some complaints about GLO posting tshirt links on his stuff.

We get it, you think it's tasteless. Now shut up about it.

As always, the moderator policy on spam has been: REMOVE ON SIGHT.

If we see posts that are blatant spam we will remove them.

But quality content is a different story. Since the inception of this sub, people have posted and linked to their personal blogs where you can buy their stuff or donate all the time.

GLO doesn't use a blog, he just posts here. So he threw a tshirt at the bottom. Big deal.

The moderator position is that while it's a bit shameless, it doesn't break any rules.

If you don't like it, downvote and move on. Maybe send him a message. Don't bitch and moan about it.

Think about how he got to this position. He clearly put in a lot of time and effort gaining the respect of many members here. He's spent countless hours coaching individuals on skype and in the chat room. He has offered entertainment and insight to the sub. Clearly, people enjoy his work enough that his posts tend to get upvoted. Instead of denouncing his work because he put a t-shirt link at the bottom of his posts, you should wonder how he got popular and wonder if maybe, just maybe, he deserves the respect that he garnered, and at the very least you should cut him a little fucking slack.

GLO, like every other member, is subject to the rules here. That means if he posts spam, it will get removed just like anybody else.

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Title [Mod] Spam policy and the shameless self promotion issue
Author redpillschool
Upvotes 164
Comments 200
Date 08 October 2015 04:30 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/37019
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3nzmpk/mod_spam_policy_and_the_shameless_self_promotion/
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[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan154 points155 points  (34 children) | Copy

I tell you what all of this bitching does...

It reveals just how many of you are young, liberal indoctrinated eunuchs who have been conditioned by your anti-capitalist teachers and professors that profits are bad and that all efforts should have some sort of altruistic nature about them.

Every hour GLO spends on Skype or chat, giving free advice, is just another hour that he is not devoting to his own financial improvement, and you chucklefucks have the nerve to bitch because he is trying to sell t-shirts?

Talk about acting like a fucking entitled woman. You consume his advice, offer nothing to him in return, and bitch when he offers a t-shirt to buy. He's not even asking for a donation; he's giving you something for your money. That's an entitled bitch if I've ever seen one.

Try going into a gym and demanding that a personal trainer give you exercise and nutrition advice for free, and demanding that he spends hours of his time working on and correcting your squat and deadlift form for free. Then tell me how that works out.

[–]RedPharaohRising21 points22 points  (3 children) | Copy

Good message. But I upvoted for the use of 'chucklefucks'. For some reason that word and chucklehead always make me chuckle

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

upvotes mean shit. MRP gets brigaded by bluepill every few posts, and the votes mean shit then too

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

liberal != progressive. Kind of annoying that everyone who is anti-republican gets lumped with those bozos.

Liberal used to mean personal liberty and a little civic responsibility, same as man never used to be a BP bitch. All in all, I'd rather be explaining why single moms are a bad idea

[–]1Kolbath9 points10 points  (5 children) | Copy

I want to add to this. I have a list of questions I plan to ask /u/GayLubeOil during a Skype session soon. However, I won't even send him a PM to ask him about scheduling until I have made at least one purchase from him! I will have conversations with him where some of my questions, if pertinent to the subject, may be asked, but I will not seek his information until I feel I have offered him remuneration for it.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy


What is this?

[–]Luckyluke23-5 points-4 points  (2 children) | Copy

I think it's time GLO did an ama

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy

He's already done one. A 3 year long one. Check his posting history.

[–]Luckyluke231 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

what? how do i get on this skype chat?!?!?!

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (1 child) | Copy

PM him and ask. He might be able to turn you on to some life-changing fitness advice. And maybe buy a t-shirt.

This is what we're getting at as TRP mods. We vehemently and ruthlessly crack down on any dipshit who pops in here, post #1, and starts to try peddling his wares/blogs/websites. That is the definition of using TRP to try to exploit for gain.

But there are members here who have literally done so much charity work, that without some sort of monetary compensation, really have no goddamn reason to keep coming here and giving you guys advice.

Does anybody think GLO really "needs" this sub anymore? Be honest with yourselves. Anything he posts here at this point is for the benefit of YOU GUYS, not him.

[–]Luckyluke234 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

pretty much i love his posts. i think he's an awesome dude for doing what he does

[–]Do not send modmail to my personal inboxCrazyHorseInvincible[M] 84 points85 points  (24 children) | Copy

Jesus fuck, I cannot believe we are actually having to say this.

TRP runs on a system of earned privilege. Not everyone is equal.

/u/GayLubeOil is allowed to sell stuff. /u/Whisper is allowed to post a donation link. /u/IllimitableMan is allowed to link to his blog.

Why? Because they contribute value to this community. And have for a long time. That's why they are allowed to do shit that randoms are not. Because they have proven that they are invested in the community and not just here to milk it.

Don't like that? Cope.

[–]Kid_Crimson14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

You would think this would be obvious to people. TRP has always been about merit to me. Privilege is like respect - you want it, then fucking earn it! ...and shut the fuck up about, "that's not fair!"

[–]1CowardlyPetrov31 points32 points  (8 children) | Copy

Good. Equality is for faggots that never earned shit.

[–]Kalidane17 points18 points  (7 children) | Copy

but but snowflake and my feels

[–]1CowardlyPetrov11 points12 points  (6 children) | Copy

ads for tshirts trigger my ptsd

[–]Kalidane12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

He needs to check his apparel privilege.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (4 children) | Copy

Sounds reasonable, that must be why everyone is so mad, they're all crazy.

Don't pretend that you're doing anything but dick riding. Who gives a fuck if they spend a lot of time here? I love GLO and I love hearing his posts, but I don't wanna see this shit. Money makes things dirty and when someone is making money off of something I trust what they say less. Every bullshit blah blah blah buy my shit post fucking irks the shit out of me.

I'm all about taking what you like and leaving the rest, but the shit is pervasive. It makes me read trp less and think that maybe I've just grown past it.

Fuck that.

[–]Do not send modmail to my personal inboxCrazyHorseInvincible[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Money makes things dirty

Fuck that Marxist bullshit.

Money is nothing but a measure of fucks given. People give you "give a fuck" tokens because you did something they gave a fuck about. Then you use those tokens to get people to do things you give a fuck about.

The only way you can have a society with no currency is for no one to give a fuck about anything.

Fuck that.

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[–][deleted] -6 points-5 points  (7 children) | Copy

Everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others..

[–]ColdEiric3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Get the fuck out of here.

Men don't earn their seat due to some privilege, men pay for their seat by the value they bring to the group. Children like you can go crying all the way back to TBP.

And you have clearly misunderstood that quote.

[–]1CowardlyPetrov3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

That is something to be said to people who bespeak of equality in their rhetoric but do not practice it.

Here it is neither practiced nor claimed rhetorically. So what the fuck are you saying?

[–]ColdEiric4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Nothing. He's saying nothing, because he has misunderstood that quote entirely.

He's just having the feelbads, because it's unfair how GLO is allowed to do something he allowed to. He's just crying.

[–]1CowardlyPetrov0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That's what it seems like.

[–]Do not send modmail to my personal inboxCrazyHorseInvincible[M] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

No, everyone is not equal.

From each according to his ability, to each according to his contribution.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

wasn't that a quote from the constitution? /s

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's marxism. I.e. the exact thing most trp people abhor. Read a fucking book, bro.

[–]4delicioustreats38 points39 points  (0 children) | Copy

Plus. TRP is free advice. You dont like the content, we'll gladly refund your purchase price and then you can GTFO.

[–]FaustoRMD29 points30 points  (0 children) | Copy

Things like this are why I love this sub. Common sense > fucking feelings of a bunch of haters. I will promote GLO shirt's in my next thread.

[–]TRP VanguardYouDislikeMyOpinion15 points16 points  (3 children) | Copy

The people who need this community should be doing everything in their power to retain those individuals that provide the greatest value to this community.

Everyone is equal.

Not true. It takes years of experience, years of understanding, and a head placed firmly on the shoulders to truly comprehend just some of the things the red pill has to offer. Take a glance at the deadbedrooms subreddit and find out how many older men cannot hold their own in a relationship. Grown men, sons of the great men who built this world, whipped by a vagina. Do you think those men can just come to this subreddit, read for a few weeks and come out completely changed?

Some of the respected individuals at TRP can talk out of their ass, and it still be better than what some of you can write.

I think a lot of the people here don't understand the high expectations people have for the endorsed content here.

This is what GLO had to say, and he's right. One example was the beginners guide to serotonin posted by /u/friendlysociopathic. He took the time to write a long post about serotonin. If someone has the ability to write quality content, all I want them to do is write quality content. 100% of their effort should be going towards that goal. But what does this man have to do? He has to post two disclaimers. He's already thinking about the backlash as he's posting the content. Then the next time he has a great idea to write a post, while also having other interesting things he can do in his life, he may choose the latter. Guess who's losing out on quality content.

Google human capital flight. Some of you may be familiar with the term "brain drain". Now you literally get to choose your future. Do you want those people to leave, or do you want them to stay around?

My advice to those in the community that need the red pill is as follows. Keep the high quality content providers here.

If someone posts something, don't try to find everything wrong in the post. There are 132K subscribers, who knows how many of those are active. But each one of the active ones has a view point. For every single thing posted, there will be men here who disagree with it due to their experiences. If you are one of those men, have some respect. Are you a man? Yes. So acknowledge the OP, state your point, and explain something. Don't just post one or two lines against what the OP said if the OP took an hour to write the post.

The core tenets of TRP today are the same as they were years ago. Most things are repeating what was already solidified years ago. Imagine 3 years ago you understood AWALT. For 3 years you have seen it play out over and over again in your life and your readings. It's synonymous with 1+1=2. You're not going to be thinking about 1+1=2, you're going to be thinking about what the next thing you can learn with the base knowledge of 1+1=2. It's going to get more complicated. AWALT is already difficult to internalize. Knowledge building on top of AWALT is going to be even more difficult. Furthermore, knowledge building from multiple fundamental pieces of TRP is going to hurt your brain even more.

You're going to see new concepts. And because content creators will be thinking of new things, the discussion will branch out further than simply AWALT, TRP is real, TRP works, etc. Be ready for that, read it, and have respect for the discussion. If you're going to add your input, make sure that you are adding value to the community with your input.

If you're new, read the side bar. Seriously. Read the side bar. It doesn't take that long. After you're done reading the sidebar, sort by top of all time and start reading some of the things from years ago. We had some raw discussions back in the day. They are just as relevant now. You will be much more ready to participate in this subreddit and offer actual value after a few weeks of heavy reading. Also, read rollo's blog. He is an artist with his words and can accurately portray an idea in his writing.

[–]friendlysociopathic5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Appreciate your level of empathy - and there's another post in the works that will be out before the end of the weekend! I ain't giving up yet.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, quote from the book of GLO. Ride the dick a little harder.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

term "brain drain"

Want to add onto this, because i see it first hand. Retired after 12 years in the RCN, and it's had huge problems with this.

It's a vicious cycle. Crab bucket mentality. just like the old saying about americans, where they will turn down a good deal if it means their neighbour gets a great one. everyone claws everyone down to their level, and it's consistent from the top on down. And what happens?

Eventually, those who can do better, are tired of never getting anything good for hellish work conditions and hours, they move on. Those who have 0 other options stay there, bitch about it, and it created a visious cycle.

After a few iterations, you end up with shitty bad people eveyrwhere, and nothing of value.

So god damned right encouraging producers vice consumers is a good thing. So long as the quality isn't taking a hit because of the producing, then theres no issue.

So unless someone is prepared to step up and provide content of their own, it's unacceptable to expect your opinion to count for shit

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil32 points33 points  (13 children) | Copy

I think a lot of the people here don't understand the high expectations people have for the endorsed content here. The writing has to be engaging, entertaining and new. The new aspect is particularly difficult because all of it has been done before.

Fitness is a pretty simple topic. You train hard, eat healthy and clean and you grow. Yes there are a lot of complicated details, however those details aren't necesary to an 18-22 year olds self improvement. He doesn't need to know all that shit. He just needs to fucking do it. The problem however is that eat clean train hard and eat clen tren hard have both been done to death. So I have to figure out a way to freshen up that stale concept.

Blood Sacrafice for The Iron Gods was my best attempt at solving the issue. It's bold, fun to read and guilts people into eat clean train hard by creating an Us Vs Them dynamic. Thinking up a post, figuring out how to do it and actually writing it, takes a lot of effort on my behalf. As much effort as some jobs.

For me to justify doing this long term I have to monetize in some way. Yes I appreciate all of the good will, but Im not Santa Clause. To quote every cheating wife ever "I have needs". At the same time I don't want to do the slimy PUA bullshit of paywalls and low quality ebook and PDFs. Yes I want to write a book but that takes very serious time, effort and money. In fact anything I eventually publish will be compared to Jack Donovan and Rollo. To quote the cheating wife again "This relationship is putting a lot of pressure on me."

My current solution is to offer shirts to the community. I came up with two designs that convey Red Pill themes in an intelligent way and payed for an artist for the design process. The first is the Allegory of Prudence, which is about young men learning from mistakes of the old, so as to not repeat them. The second is Samson tearing down the temple of Dagon. In my rendition Samson is tearing down the symbols of those who oppose classic masculinity and fund feminism. A lot of people in the manosphere sell shirts. I wanted to do better than cheesy quotes on low quality shirts.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Shouldn't Samson's Chains be blue? He is breaking them

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's a little on the nose, don't you think?

[–]sir_wankalot_here4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

I personally think that GLO's TShirts are pretty gay and beta ☺ But if he hires me to help promote them I will change my opinion ☺

I am too lazy to make my own shirts to sell, but who every wants to make sir wankalot shirts is free to do so providing they pay me 20% of sales.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

If this campaign gets at least 20 sales in ten days ill figure out some kind of affiliate thing gor you https://teespring.com/samsonblue

[–]sir_wankalot_here-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Just yanking your chain ☺ For affiliate to be highly successful you need something that promises to the consumer does little or no effort and gets amazing results.

Let me think ☺

Just wearing the TShirt will cause the wearer to stop being a loser and then magically attract chicks ☺ That is because they symbols on the TShirt harnest the hidden powers of the universe ☺

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you post that link in the right places you could earn hundreds. Done.

[–]ColdEiric1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think a lot of the people here don't understand the high expectations people have for the endorsed content here. The writing has to be engaging, entertaining and new. The new aspect is particularly difficult because all of it has been done before.

Ecclesiastes 1:9 New International Version

'What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun.'

If your old posts passed the test for quality way back when, when I and the rest of the new subscribers still believed in Disney, then you only need to have a girl clean the dust away from them, put them in a new, glossy package and post them like they were back then. Fitness is still fitness, right? The Way to mold men out of boys, it hasn't changed, right?

And if you do have your posts somewhere, like on a blog, then I'll gladly take a look at them.

[–]Kid_Crimson0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

My current solution is to offer shirts to the community. I came up with two designs that convey Red Pill themes in an intelligent way and payed for an artist for the design process.

...heheh I see what you did there! I do love me some GLO posts!

[–]Primemale0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Good points, your new shirt design is a lot cooler than the original IMO.

Also as a side point, you linked to that alex jones video, although one can learn from some of the stuff he talks about, he is still a shill, the same people that fund feminism, fund him.



[–]alveoli10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Fuck the haters. Don't cater to the whiny bitches.

I was having a lazy morning and was considering hitting the snooze button again and skipping the gym. But then I said fuck it, I need to pray to the iron gods to get what I want. I rolled my lazy ass out of bed and headed to the gym.

Thanks for making a positive impact in my life.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I respected you a lot, but those shirts might sell better at mensrights. Make them in XXXL and you should be good.

[–]Knightofthewest23 points24 points  (5 children) | Copy

GLO have earned a privilege on this sub. I'm personally fine with that, the idea that everybody must be equal in everthing for ever is a feminist idea that ensures nobody getting their feels hurt due to their own lazyness and lack of achivement.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

If you earn it it's not a privilege

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

sure it is, it's a right if it isn't earned

[–]unassumingusername78 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

If you wrote a quality post and put a link to a shirt at the bottom, you'd be within the rules too. He's got an avatar of brodin stamp, but I don't think he has any special privileges.

[–]2rp_valiant5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

he can break the posting rules and gets more leniency than a regular user. However, you're right in that anyone can turn a little profit in TRP if it's backed by solid credible advice. Unlike most of the social internet, TRP isn't anti-capitalist. One more reason this is a bastion of sanity.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (16 children) | Copy

Crying "sell out" the moment that someone does an action that doesn't explicitly contradict selling out is easy. Looking at their actions and deciding if someone's doing something that contradicts not selling out takes actual critical thinking. GLO's posts are as free as ever, he does free shit like fitness consultations that I'm not willing to do, and his posts have been getting more upvotes than ever so his quality's not slipping. Everyone just wants to prove how non-conformist and elite they are.

Go to any post where GLO advertises his shit and find some of the people bitching at him. Go through their post histories and see if any of them have ever in their entire history of being here produced a valuable post. The answer is almost always "no." Bitching about inconsequential shit is fundamentally not red pill and so the people bitching about this shit that doesn't affect them will always be the crappiest subscribers. Red pill's noteworthy for its content and as long as GLO produces quality content, I support his right to advertise. If I had to choose between one content producer and 500 useless bitchers, I'd pick the content producer any day of the week.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan22 points23 points  (15 children) | Copy

People cry sell out whenever you try to make money from your success. But if they found themselves in your position in any capacity, even if it's a bit of mild internet success - they'd do exactly the same shit. People don't like being charged for things that used to be free - but they also don't like seeing guys trying to make money out of things they never used to try to make money from, even when paying is optional! I'm probably going to start experimenting with ads on my blog soon, it's been ad free for 2 years. I tried going the Patreon route first, which I've had about 6 months now, and the growth on that is extremely humble. So it looks like I'm going to have to look at mixing revenue streams up.

I love the dudes who sponsor my work and am infinitely humbled by their support, there just isn't all that many of them. Out of all my monthly views (fuck it, let's say unique views) if I crunch the numbers about 0.001% support via Patreon. If we do it from followers to Patreon supporters that probably comes up to around 0.01%. IT'S definitely below 1%.

So I need to diversify revenue streams if I want to maintain a high output well into the future. Sure I love writing for the sake of writing, if I didn't I certainly wouldn't still be hanging around - but making money from a hobby is always better than not.

I don't even want to put ads up, I really don't. I've tried to avoid it for a long time because I hate 'em and I know most tech literate guys (a large % of TRP) use an ad blocker anyway so the revenue even on the kind of views I get is going to be pitiful. But it's at least an extra something. Why shouldn't I be rewarded for my work? Why shouldn't GLO? Why is it noble to tirelessly produces mountains of content on the blog and the forum, but the minute you make any move towards monetisation you're this untrustworthy asshole who's just in it for the money?

I've been on this board before most people even knew what TRP was. So has GLO. Is there anything wrong with either of us making money out of our hobby? I don't think so. Successful people monetise their success, it's a fair and honest hustle that doesn't harm anybody. What's so bad about giving value to people who have given you value? Not a thing wrong with it in my opinion.

If GLO's built up a lot of goodwill, he's earned it. And I'd like to think the same of myself and all the other prolific contributors on the red pill and in the wider sphere.

Also wanna throw it out there, redpillschool is like Steve Jobs without the fame. Total fucking visionary that has silently guided the trajectory of this community from the shadows. He takes little credit and is rarely in the spotlight, but without him there would be no TRP. Would RPS be an asshole for trying to monetise TRP? I don't think so, yet I can already hear the cries.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

redpillschool is like Steve Jobs without the fame. Total fucking visionary that has silently guided the trajectory of this community from the shadows.

You flatter me, IM. If anything though, I'm bill gates. Wasn't my idea, but I made it accessible to more people in my garage with a soldering iron. Also I need help with my metaphors.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

didn't get rich by writing cheques

[–]TRP VanguardYouDislikeMyOpinion8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

IMO, you've given out way too much free advice here. The time and effort that you have put in to TRP is staggering. I've often looked over some random threads only to find a short essay in a comment response with your name on it. A well thought out response tying multiple principles together to form an overarching point that you drive right into someone's mind. They should be paying for your service.

I love the people here that think you and GLO are doing this for money. What money? They honestly think there is money in this field.

You and him honestly enjoy helping people. You are both good men. A shrink costs a lot of money and can only help one person at a time. Compare that with your posts being seen hundreds of thousands of times, and the collective benefit received from them by men on this sub.

The following is for those of you reading this comment.

Some poeple land on this subreddit and think "wow, look at this bullshit". But TRP is the real deal. TRP is helping people. And those people that are creating the content for TRP are providing a service. I'm curious to know how many potential suicides this subreddit has curbed. I'm interested in understanding the magnitude in mental frustration eased in the male population due to this subreddit. TRP is no joke. TRP is a resource. Those that understand its teachings don't need it. Don't believe me? Take a look around. How many endorsed contributors are active out of the total pool of ECs? I've said it before and I will say it again, you're lucky they are here. And if you shit all over them, you are directly taking a shit down your own throat.

[–]Primemale0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

IMO, you've given out way too much free advice here. The time and effort that you have put in to TRP is staggering.

Completely agree, IM is under appreciated, FAR LESSER men are charging for their content.(in all spheres) In the age of the welfare state, free porn, free movie and music downloads, as well as the internet in general, people do not want to pay for stuff anymore. Everyone wants something for nothing, with that said I still think many people would be more than willing to pay for some of his services, at least a nominal fee, any way men of his calibre will do well financially in the end.

[–]deargdragon3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Your problem is your pricing model sucks and you do nothing to explain what benefits people obtain from subscribing to your work. The content you publish is very high quality and I love how brilliantly you write, but your sales copy is lacking.

When you're asking for donations/subscriptions, emphasize what someone will learn from reading your more privileged material. Give them the hook, but not the fish yet. This could be something like "For $1, you have access to buy any of my newer articles for $1-$5 a piece and learn better ways to improve your life through Machiavellian styles." Give them the list of articles you've written and let them buy the titles to gain access. For each higher payment or subscription, give people more benefits. You put in that people paying for more expensive subscriptions can get a preview look of an article and help you write it. Instead, phrase things more like this, "For $20 a month, you get exclusive access to newer content before even being published as well as adding our voice to a dialogue with me in shaping the article." (Maybe not have the last half of that sentence, but something like how privileged they are to engage and talk to you directly about these topics.)

You're just emphasizing the the benefits you'll receive from people instead of what they'll receive. I know your content has been historically good, but I just don't know if I'm interested in paying for future content (but I can be convinced otherwise). Here's another idea, give people a referral link to use where if people use that link and you get more traffic to your blog, they get one free article that would be worth $1-$5. Say something like this, "if my writing has helped you in any way, please use this referral link to give to someone you believe could be helped by my writing. If just 2 people use your referral link, I'll give you access to one of my newer paid articles. Please do not spam this link to your friends, only use it for people that will actually benefit."

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

emphasize what someone will learn from reading your more privileged material.

I appreciate the advice/criticism, thanks. Although I may not follow your examples to the T, I'll look at incorporating the general idea. Won't be any time soon though, I'm working on the book at the moment so "making Patreon more attractive" is going to have to take a backseat in priority accordingly.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

PAO and mark manson have the email lists, plus blogroll. How have they monitized further? Just lecures and the book? (Tempo)

[–]2rp_valiant2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you want any help with monetisation or development, give me a shout. I've really benefited from your advice and would be happy to repay that favour in turn.

[–]usul16283 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

For your blog: endorse books/health products/whatever and affiliate link. My blog is undoubtedly smaller than yours, but this method gets me about 10x the revenue ads would.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Are you just doing generic amazon affiliate links, or are promoters contacting you?

[–]usul16281 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just generic links, I get a 3% conversion, but each conversion is a couple of bucks, so I get about $0.10/visitor.

My site is about consumer products, so most people who find it are already in a mood to buy stuff.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah I'm going to experiment with a bunch of things and then apply what works and drop what doesn't. If the ads suck, everyone hates them and I end up finding a better revenue stream they'll probably end up going anyway.

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  1. for the guys shitting on a tshirt, this is the worst yoko ono moment ever, and we should all be embarassed.

  2. gonna give my +0% endorsement of IM... one of my OYS things to work on was to write every day. Had a random blog on a random topic of interest. every day for 8 months. I can tell you this, there was a lot of shit on there, and it slowly improved, but I would never put it as 'good'. It's not easy, and I won't fault a man who wants compensation for his labour.

[–]Ibex3D2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fucking put up ads. Ads are awesome. I dont want to pay for this content through something like patreon. In fact, I can't pay for this content. I consume so much from so many different sources I would not be able to afford it. Let someone else pay you for me. I can't stand fucking idiots who bitch about ads. Oh boo-hoo there are ads on your youtube videos and shirt sales at the end of posts. These things are free. Anyone who complains is just a whiny little faggot who has no idea how lucky he is that content creators can monetize through ads instead of charging the consumer directly.

[–]1ErasmusOrgasmus7 points8 points  (14 children) | Copy

/u/redpillschool It's dishonest to make an entire post rebutting the small number who complained about GLO flogging t-shirts but make no attempt to address the main complaint people had with his recent post; namely that mod policy has always been that TRP is not a movement. Yet here we have an EC trying to make it into a mirror's image of a SJW stickering campaign on campuses. If mod policy has changed, just come out and say so, or else have the bollocks to say 'yes GLO is a valued member of this community but on this occasion, his idea was a stupid one and we do not endorse it.'

[–]Modredpillschool[S] -1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy

It's not a movement. I think making triggering stickers is funny. Most of the people are only here because we did something controversial and it made news somewhere else.

GLO is an agent of chaos, either you embrace him for that or you don't, but I'm not stupid enough to try to control him.

Will stickers be funny? Yes.

Will stickers bring more people and make it more difficult to moderate? Undoubtely, but we've gotten good at that.

Will stickers spread our message? Probably not, they're mostly just to piss people off.

Will stickers wake more men up? It might.

Will the eventual ensuing drama cause reddit to take a good look at us and consider shutting us down? It's a posibility. But I typically embrace chaos.

It's not a movement, do what you want with TRP. But I personally moderate this board specifically to help guys looking for it. You don't market it "wake up," but if you make feminists do something stupid and make people think, "Wait, that doesn't make sense," then I say fair game to you.

I don't condone outreach "programs," but I do condone anything that makes feminists angry so it's a toss up.

[–]1ErasmusOrgasmus7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

I'm not stupid enough to try to control him

moderate: verb mod·er·ate \ˈmä-də-ˌrāt\ : to guide a discussion or direct a meeting that involves a group of people

You are a moderator of this forum. You have the power to control what is and is not posted here so don't play the powerlessness card. The mods' collective refusal to remove GLO's call to activism is tacit endorsement of it, which is in direct contradiction of existing policy of the mods and the sub generally that TRP is not a movement.

If all you're interested in is pissing feminists off then why not personally support an anti-feminist trolling campaign but request it be disassociated from TRP?

People can troll feminists with stickers all they want, I might even join in, but to do it with our collective name on it is fucking pointless and stupid and it amounts to little more than a childlike 'come and get me' invitation.

To risk the future of this sub, the last great male space, for the sake of a few laughs is beyond spasticated.

[–]Modredpillschool[S,M] -5 points-4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Moderating a forum and controlling what an individual wants to do with a set of ideas are two different things.

He hasn't broken any rules, we're not removing it.

Case closed.

[–]1ErasmusOrgasmus5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Moderating a forum and controlling what an individual wants to do with a set of ideas are two different things.

Indeed. I never asked you to control anything, only to moderate consistently in line with mod policy OR state that policy has changed.

He hasn't broken any rules, we're not removing it.

I never suggested it broke any hard and fast rules nor did I advocate removing it necessarily. I'll restate part of my original comment: "If mod policy has changed [and TRP is now a movement], just come out and say so, or else have the bollocks to say 'yes GLO is a valued member of this community but on this occasion, his idea was a stupid one and we do not endorse it.'"

I appreciate the mods' position here because you all like GLO, but it's not really open to you to sit on the fence when something directly contradicts your stated policy.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy

This wasn't open for debate. I've let you go long enough after condescendingly pasting the definition of "moderate" to me. Off you go.

"To risk the future of this sub" God damn drama queen.

A dude making stickers doesn't make something a movement, asshat.

[–]daygamer698 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

I still think it's fucking stupid, not changing my mind because some guy with a green text on his username the founder of this sub says it's okay.

I admit it's pathetic for anyone to actually get stressed/angry about it, but yes this whole shirt thing could have a 'trickle effect' and yes it could ultimately ruin this sub. But who the fuck cares, true RPers don't need this sub to flourish. All the great content is on the sidebar, that's the shit that changes your life, the stuff posted here every week by guys like GLO is just a side-bonus.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You're allowed to hate it. Just downvote and move on, that's all.

[–]Redasshole13 points14 points  (8 children) | Copy

You know, I thought about this a lot. My first comment on TRP was basically me trying to shame GLO for what he is doing. I posted another hate comment yesterday on his latest post. I thought about it and come on, why do I feel so inclined to post hate comments about his shirts whenever I can? Why do I do this with such rage and emotional investment? First, I thought he was shamelessly leveraging TRP. But then, I realized that he deserves to get the few bucks he is making for years of great posts. Plus, he wants to use the bucks to create more red pill content. But then, I saw this sticker thing and I thought it could hurt TRP "he doesn't care about TRP, he wants to make $ at the expense of the sub, he is the ennemy!!" was my reasoning. But then, well. With such a great team of mods, I don't think he would have been allowed to post something that would have put TRP in danger as much as I thought his post on sticker did. So despite all the rational evidences that 1) it's not that big of a deal 2) it won't hurt TRP, why do I still feel the need to sabotage his shirt sells everytime I can?

I think I'm jealous. He is ripped, in law school, posting great content, not giving a shit and 10 000x more alpha than me. But trying to put him down so I don't feel small is not the way to go. I just hated the fact that he is not only better than me but what I want to be while I'm only starting my RP journey. So I want to publicly apologize for my stupid behavior. There is nothing wrong with GLO selling his shirts.

[–]AnAbsoluteSith5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

The ability to put yourself under the microscope; think critically and examine one's self, and furthermore admit your screw up is a step in the right direction. You understand the true motivating forces behind your previous actions (an absence of value in your own life) and accepted it. Now you know what to work on.

It took me a while, but I'm learning those above me deserve my respect and not resentment.

[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan13 points14 points  (2 children) | Copy

It took me a while, but I'm learning those above me deserve my respect and not resentment.

I think a lot of this sort of stuff is rooted in how kids are being taught in schools. I'm 34. When I was in school, the message was you better work fucking hard, get through school, and if you're lucky, you'll get an entry level job in your field, find the most successful men, and try to emulate them in everything you do.

Today, it seems that over the last 15 years, schools are teaching an "entitlement" mentality. Kids are coming out of college with a piece of paper that says they are smart, and expect $100k/year and a corner office at the age of 23. They don't wanna work for shit. They think the men that have more than they do got that way due to an unfair capitalistic system. Resentment follows.

Young boys used to look at a cool, dapper guy dressed in a 3 piece suit and say, "boy, one day I wanna be like that guy!" Today, young boys are taught that those men are filthy and evil, and they only got that rich by hurting other people and taking advantage of them.

I predict this and future "entitlement" generations will be the downfall of western economies. Everybody wants to consume, but nobody wants to produce shit anymore.

Know who is producing shit like crazy? China.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

man, 35 and I remember that. college was a guarantee kids...

[–]sir_wankalot_here2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

But then, I realized that he deserves to get the few bucks he is making for years of great posts.

Please do not use that disgusting, offensive and derogatory word. The word I am talking about is deserve

This is coupled with the BP myth that life rewards you by how hard your work at it or the amount of effort you put into it. This is another BS idea.

[–]2rp_valiant1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

a mistake is only a failure if you learn nothing from it. It's good to see you've realised the error in your ways - it's one more step in the process of letting go of unproductive emotions.

[–]TheRedWay-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Free GLO!

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What is this?

[–]Guuuoiiiii8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

Bunch of GLO fan boys. Why don't you all fluff him before he fucks your girl. You can wear his Tshirt during

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

There you go some fucking common sense

[–]GrandmasterHurricane5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol that's what I've been thinking too.

[–]Lanefiger8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Seriously, who are the cucked betas that can't grasp the whole " if you don't like it, don't look at it!". This is as bad as going to the fucking UN to stop "cyber bullying" because "my fee fees hurt and I can't find off button". WTF?

[–]GrandmasterHurricane9 points10 points  (22 children) | Copy

Ahhh, the classic "Halo Effect". Where whoever wears it can do no wrong.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Talking about putting pussy on a pedestal. This community is putting GLO on a pedestal.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] -4 points-3 points  (19 children) | Copy

Care to elaborate?

[–]GrandmasterHurricane8 points9 points  (18 children) | Copy

It's a term used in the medical field. But it basically boils down to anyone who you think is better/ahead of you or you look up to can do no wrong in what they're good at. They could be making a fatal mistake in front of you but you wouldn't call it out because of that veneration you have for them. Ex: Not telling a doctor that he just overlooked a very important symptom in his patient's diagnosis because you're nurse or an ED tech. Even if it's crucial information. You just don't think it's your place to correct a doctor, therefore he never does wrong.

[–]RedPharaohRising1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's what I feared initially. If it ever comes to that, TRP is corrupted. Fortunately, I don't think it will. AFAIK rps wouldn't let that happen.

[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

So in your opinion, where is Dr. LubeOil 'going wrong'?

[–]GrandmasterHurricane6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

Since he has the halo on, for you guys, nothing.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You dodged. Own your shit. What is he doing wrong?

[–]2rp_valiant0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy

Dude, redpillschool created this sub. I'm pretty sure if anyone is above GLO in terms of respect, it's him. And he says all is good. What is wrong with you that you think a little "if you liked this post, check out these shirts" link at the bottom of the post is a serious problem. Go get yourself some real problems. Work out til your DOMS makes getting out of bed in the morning feels like you were in a car accident. Pour your everything into a business that's constantly on the brink of failing. Then tell me GLO's shirt link is a travesty and a calamity. Pathetic.

[–]MEpicLevelCheater[M] -5 points-4 points  (2 children) | Copy

it basically boils down to anyone who you think is better/ahead of you or you look up to can do no wrong

/u/GayLubeOil's special privileges don't come from the common readers of TRP. His special privileges are granted by we, the moderators. Even if your "Halo Effect" were a real phenomenon, it would not apply here. No one goes before us.

GLO has proven his worth to the community through his consistent contribution of quality content that is rife with useful Red Pill insights. He has earned his status - as can anyone who contributes to the degree that he has.

[–]QQ_L2P4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Even if your "Halo Effect" were a real phenomenon

At the very least the Halo Effect is a real thing. It's like the Women are Wonderful effect; pedestalisation of something causes an inability to point out faults due to fear of rejection by something you venerate.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

yeah, it describes why people think confident attractive men are competent in things outside of being confident and attractive, or why a beautiful girl is more likely to be considered kind as well.

Has nothing to do with holding different standards to different people (which it isn't here) it's just mental masturbation, only sounds logical if you don't know about the subject matter

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What is this?

[–]Endorsed Contributorseattleron5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Damn, free skype coaching? And guys are bitching? WTF? if that's the case, /u/JP_Whoregan had it right when he said:

  • It reveals just how many of you are young, liberal indoctrinated eunuchs who have been conditioned by your anti-capitalist teachers and professors that profits are bad and that all efforts should have some sort of altruistic nature about them.

Nobody owes you anything, gents. Outside of your parents, no a single, solitary, person owes you anything in this world. Just because you exist does not mean you deserve something. You've been lied to your whole life. No one owes you anything at all. Sure, it would be nice if every human being alive were selfless and no one on earth had to want for anything, but that is a dumbass fairy tale and is not reachable. The Zeitgeist movement that's going around now that is trying to convince people that if we regulate and tax more, everyone will be taken care of, get a trophy, and have more than they'll ever need is fucking stupid.

Dude is giving out free advice and links to some t-shirt? BIG FUCKING DEAL! If you don't like it, you're free to go to another website on the internet.

Get rid of the mindset that you're owed something because you breathe. You are literally owed nothing. Outside of your parents for the first 20% of your life or so, not a soul on earth for now and on through eternity owes you anything. Not a hello when you're sad. Not a glass of water when you're thirsty. Not a tax dollar for whatever dumbass government program you think is good. Not a call to 911 if you're on your deathbed. NOTHING. It's great if things are done for you when you need them most, but no human on earth is indebted to you.

Drill it into your brain and accept it, reality gets much clearer when you do.

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You hear that /u/gaylubeoil ? The moderators think you're only a "bit" shameless. Theres work to be done Brodin Son.

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[–]2rp_valiant5 points6 points  (12 children) | Copy

TRP is full of betas. Some go red, some cough the pill up. But 99% of the members started as milquetoast betas and it takes a lot of introspection and self-criticism to really swallow the pill and most betas just can't hack it. They'll tell themselves they're RP while continuing on their same pathetic path.

[–]TRP VanguardYouDislikeMyOpinion6 points7 points  (11 children) | Copy

It really does take a lot to swallow it. I'm also not convinced that you swallow it once. The first does is just the one that opens your eyes.

After that you still take the red pill. Sometimes it's a big dose. Sometimes a small one. You have to keep taking it.

[–]2rp_valiant5 points6 points  (10 children) | Copy

Occasionally we get a really radical post that exposes the guys who are still open to more pill-taking and those who have had as much red as they can take. /u/Gunplayin made a post a while back about being naturally very dark triad and how it ruined his ex girlfriend's life. At this point, rather than just reading and learning about what happened we had tons of supposedly-RP guys screaming "you're an evil abuser!" in the comments rather than learning anything from his experience. It seems to happen on the regular. I think quite a few would have issues with content from DarkEnlightenment too which I feel is a sub that's closely connected to our own.

[–]TRP VanguardYouDislikeMyOpinion7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

The most recent meltdowns I remember were the ones about single mothers. These guys put on their battle gloves before typing.

Those are the posts that I love the most. The more people here that get their panties in a twist, the more progress is actually being made. I want men to get angry. The frustration is real. But there is no way that they can advance without first letting out the frustration.

And you're completely right. People should read, take what they can from it, and move on. If they have something that they can add that is of value, they should, otherwise they should move on.

They walk into someone's house and wind up, "I don't like this painting, I don't like the way you arranged the furniture in your living room". There's the door.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I posted Getting a Woman to Cheat is Like Getting a Duck to Eat Bread. That was a fucking battle look it up. Lol

[–]2rp_valiant4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's the best thing about TRP. It's a continuous baptism of fire, making you question your assumptions and reprogramming you into an independent thinker. Every major post is designed to offend and shock your senses, and it's incredibly effective at getting people to recognise their inherent biases towards protecting women, single mothers, etc.

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I thought the sticking said more than the post ever did. Reminded me of the big lebowski.

no, you're not wrong, you're just an asshole :)

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[–]2rp_valiant1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

the biggest resistance we've gotten so far was the occasional post/comment that points out that weed is unproductive and can make you lazy. So many stoners in the comments clinging to something that they've integrated into their identity, even though it's not good for you.

Also, LOL @ the Martin Shkreli thing. Is he actually a user here?

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[–]2rp_valiant1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Something has happened in the past 6 months. Whereas before the noobs would shut up and learn until they either left or finally got it, now we seem to have a large number of still-blue losers who think their opinion/dissent is so important that they hang around arguing with endorsed contributors and long-time users. I think a wave of bans is in our near future.

[–]Gunplayin0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There's a reason I don't post much content anymore. I'm still with that girl too. I know my posts hit some people hard and others related, but I quit posting because I weighed costs and benefits. GLO says almost the same thing, but sells you on the idea that you can too and guides you. If guy wants to sell shirts, by all means. You don't see illimitable or myself doing that. My income streams are pipelined already.

[–]Badgerfist 7 points7 points [recovered] | Copy

Why are we making Mod posts to protect GLO's fee-fees. You post, people don't agree and they post. Don't post if you don't want people to disagree.

It's not fucking hard, and there is some irony in telling people to let it be in such a heavy handed way.

If you want to run a site where all you hear is what you want to hear, tumblr is great for that I hear.

[–]2rp_valiant3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Because bitching about a little t-shirt link reveals that people clearly haven't taken TRP to heart and should be reminded that they need to re-evaluate their thinking/feelings. If you're upset that GLO posted a t-shirt link you clearly have no real problems in your life, which shows you're not pushing yourself in any way. Go work out, go start a business, just do something hard. Then look back at your whiny faggot-ass comments on reddit and be ashamed of the loser you once were.

[–]TRP VanguardYouDislikeMyOpinion1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Exactly this.

[–]redestofthereds-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's not about Glo's feelings, it's about people whining like little bitches.

[–]2Occams_Shiv2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Shameless is GLO's brand. I can't believe people have a problem with the dude hocking a few T-shirts. To me it's a non-issue.

[–]2rp_valiant-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

I suspect, and Redasshole's comment reaffirms this, that the haters are mostly just jealous that GLO can get away with being so brazen and openly narcissistic. He is the internet representation of the alpha that fucked your girlfriend, or beat you up in school. A lot of our subscribers are just here to be edgelords and aren't looking to really, deeply change their mindset. Hence the "yeah women suck!" without moving onto "wait, women don't suck, I'm just worthless... right now".

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I find a horrible lack of self awareness in here. part of the process, I just hope that it's not the same names popping up in 12 months with the same shit.

Theres own your shit weekly posts in MRP, I often wonder how they would go in here

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Honestly, GLO is doing arguably the most RedPill thing, by building value and then leveraging it to further his success. That's the entire premise of this sub. His methodology is something to be observed and learned from, not to be scorned.

Newbies especially should take note.

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Hell yeah, note taken. I need all the fucking help I can get at this point

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I will say this...

Think what you want, but act like everyone else. I like the idea of the shirt, but can't find the benefit of wearing my heart on my sleeve.

But if there's a market, and it's not leeching value from everything else he does, there is 0 reason to argue it, except little emperor syndrome, who thinks the world owes you shit, and your opinion matters.

[–]RP_WIP0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I remember when I was beta and I would shame alpha qualities, success, and social status.

I was a little beta Bitch boy, just like the people who are getting bent outta shape over a fucking t-shirt...

Well, the, I'm still beta as Fuck but the alpha shaming is gone.

Respect GLO, thanks for the Skype session bro.

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I think recognizing that you are beta as fuck is the first step. Recognizing "oh God, I just did that."
Sometimes now I even notice myself BEFORE and don't wimp out. I'm doing small things, and not doing other small things. I'm happier and more confident, even if I haven't made any major life changes.

I'm still beta as fuck. But I know now that I can change.

[–]TR-P0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

GLO doesn't use a blog, he just posts here. So he threw a tshirt at the bottom. Big deal.

He also posts a lot of shit that probably helps a lot of people or at least starts a lot of discussion. He's probably earned a little self promotion.

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Great content, though I'll never understand the man's choice of username.

[–]Doctor_Mayhem1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

In-joke for steroid users. When you order juice that has been disguised, it is often labeled as "gay lubrication oil" or "gay massage oil"

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

gay lubrication oil

went onto ali express, to see if thats true.

I shouldn't have done that.

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I have a solution. Just link a page on the sidebar for seasoned members to offer their merch and services. Consider it premium services. The strategy is timeless and effective. Self-promotion would then be concentrated in continuing to write great content and submitting approval to be considered on the Premium Services. Merited tenure.

Mods, I feel as though the members need a restructure is all; they'll know what they're getting as Free and Premium content needs to have its own segmented spaces. This should also clear up the problem with having to filter through posts to figure out exactly what the hell GLO actually does; people just need a simplified way to access it and know it's available.

Everyone else, the emotions twisting inside is Envy and Jealousy. It's why you're here in the fucking first place. You're failures; you want steak, but you attack the guys who hunt it, grill it, and tries to TEACH you how to get steak. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

[–]Sdom10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

My buddy used to do trading ed as a side business to smooth out his cash flow. He ranted about people's entitlement all the time. They would bitch at him when he wouldn't teach for free.

I've noticed that most won't do that with physical goods, but somehow feel entitled to intellectual property or capital. Often they don't realize the testing and experience that goes into creating that IP, or amassing the kind of experience and skill set that renders someone qualified to instruct and guide you.

Long story short, nothing is free. Not only that, his contributions shouldn't be free. They have value.

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[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

when somebody says "I'm alpha" it instantly makes me think they're not.

Agreed. Show it, don't say it.

I say if he wants to sell his shirts, then so be it. But I wouldn't personally advertise TRP.

[–]RedPharaohRising-1 points0 points  (8 children) | Copy

It's really their problem, but its about time we saw a sticky to shut this bullshit down. A lot of people see TRP as a temple to learn from. Some continue to perpetuate this idealism by shaming u/GayLubeOil for purportedly desecrating the altar by attempting to subvert TRP and use it for anything other than the sacred purpose of disseminating knowledge.
Well, tough fucking shit. The fantasy is yours alone, don't enforce it. Everyone's time is precious and GLO is certainly clocking the hours.

The only thing that should outrage people is if/when other posters get shot down for the same thing.

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exactly the reason why TRP is not a philosophy, and it's not a movement. It's a paraxology[sp] and living pragmatically.

[–]2rp_valiant-1 points0 points  (5 children) | Copy

It's crabs in a bucket mentality. "Oh look this guy's pretty much won the alpha game and is moving on to selling stuff, lets tear him down because he reflects a lack of insecurities that we can't muster". As a masculine-positive sub we should be encouraging capitalism and profiteering, as long as it doesn't harm the educational content - and if anything, the profit driver might push GLO to write more posts. And a t-shirt link isn't harming the educational content one bit.

Ignore the haters. They're all faggots anyway.

[–]RedPharaohRising0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

As long as there's content, I won't raise a pitchfork.

[–]2rp_valiant-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

totally the right attitude. If the quality drops and GLO starts making posts purely dedicated to his t-shirts, I'm sure the mods will have a word.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I'd have a word, just because wearing tshirts all day.

why not wear sweatpants while we are at it?

[–]2rp_valiant0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

you can't wear a suit at the gym ;)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

lel... I think my gear is older than my LTR...

I'm surprised they haven't disintegrated already

[–]Donald_Fuck0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

GLO has some shit in the works. 1 hour 45 mins skype call. Legendary.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Usually shirtless and frequently while eating lol

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

you get skyped for this?

Clearly I'm in the wrong business

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Jeez. If you don't want to buy a GLO tshirt then don't buy one.

Who cares if it's tasteless? All modern advertising is crass and tasteless.

You don't like it, don't read it. You ignore thousands of advertising messages all day. Ignore his too, if you must.

[–]Trail_of_Jeers-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

GLO coaches fuckers? I should give him a ring.

[–]1favours_of_the_moon-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

GayLubeOil? He's a solid dude. Let him do what he wants.

[–]Lithiumthium-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

GLO check your privilege nooblord. /s

Do any of you know that most of the content GLO/Illimitable/Whisper provides for us FOR FREE is charged on PUA RSD sites? Even worse, it is so loaded with BS so you keep paying and still won't grasp what endorsed contributors can deliver to you in a fun, engaging, no bs way.

As someone said people who complain about this are either betas or women, I am not saying that we should worship them for they bring the truth for us peasants but at least don't whine/comment/updownvote, they are not rubbing in your face, you still have a decision to NOT ENTER THE THREAD, so man up

[–]1CowardlyPetrov-5 points-4 points  (1 child) | Copy

It just shows the fucking blue pill mentality of all the fucking tryhards that are still choking on the red pill.

God forbid a strong man is shameless.

"False modesty is as bad as false pride. Know exactly what you are capable of at any moment, and act accordingly. Any other path is folly—and could be deadly in battle."

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's a good thing. even this thread as a response to it is a learning experience.

If it were just about people defending GLO, there wouldn't have been a post, people would have downvoted/banned, laugh and move on.

the mods found value in it and posted it.

[–]Luckyluke23-4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

look glo is one of the SMALL amount of people who off GREAT advice on this sub. so he wants to put a shirt at the bottom to get paid. fine whatever. I'd buy one but i don't like the design.

[–]redestofthereds-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You all are a bunch of phags. Yes he's trying sell some t-shirts, big whoop.Never heard of the phrase time is money?

You think he's gonna put all that time into writing quality content and not get anything out of it? He's just a guy who values his time.

Y'all need to work on your reading comprehension skills and determine if the content itself is good just by what you could learn from it.

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well fucking said!!!!

[–]notrustled-5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bitches gonna bitch. I bet they would do at least the same if they were in his position ("they hate us 'cause they ain't us"). Some people are so goddamn self-important.

And it's not like they have to buy those tees. Hell, some camhoes milk people for literally nothing, how about that? So the whiners can fuck off with their bullshit morality, nobody cares.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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