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Kaley Cuoco's Husband Files For Alimony - women collectively lose their shit

by RedPillGold on /r/TheRedPill
23 October 2015 04:09 AM UTC

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Title Kaley Cuoco's Husband Files For Alimony - women collectively lose their shit
Author RedPillGold
Upvotes 769
Comments 217
Date 23 October 2015 04:09 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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Link https://theredarchive.com/post/37443
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3pv62l/kaley_cuocos_husband_files_for_alimony_women/
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345 upvotesBorsao664 years ago


My ex made a good bit more than me, especially after the market crash in 2008. So after she figured I wasn't any good as a BB ride anymore, she filed for divorce. She'd been stashing away her paycheck for several years while I paid the bills, and then refused to mediate a settlement (the savings are communal property in my state). So I asked for alimony and all the sudden she realized she was on the hook and wrote a fat check to end it.

The sword can work both ways.

45 upvotestio1w4 years ago

The sword can work both ways.

It can but usually doesn't...

18 upvotesWitness_My_Greatness4 years ago

Think that's bad? Try getting custody over a kid, even when the mom is a fucking piece of shit.

10 upvotestrprich4 years ago

The DHHS data shows that of children abused by one parent between 2001 and 2006, 70.6% were abused by their mothers, whereas only 29.4% were abused by their fathers. And of children who died at the hands of one parent between 2001 and 2006, 70.8% were killed by their mothers, whereas only 29.2% were killed by their fathers. Furthermore, contrary to media portrayals that leave the viewer with the impression that only girls are ever harmed, boys constituted fully 60% of child fatalities.

Source : http://www.breakingthescience.org/SimplifiedDataFromDHHS.php

4 upvotesWitness_My_Greatness4 years ago

Jesus H. that's bad. I shouldn't be surprised though.

3 upvotestio1w4 years ago

Society as a whole doesn't care and can't care.

For all they're concerned if they were abused they must have done/be something wrong in order to deserve it, otherwise why would their saintly mothers harm them in any way?

11 upvotesLuckyluke234 years ago

bro this is like the first man positive story I have heard out of a divorce man. shit..

20 upvotesBorsao664 years ago

It gets better. I had a good friend (at the time) who was a divorce paralegal and she wrote all my paperwork for cheap. I was slaughtering them pro-se (self representing) and they couldn't figure out how I was doing it. She'd literally hired the best divorce man-raper in the state (legislative consultant on family law).

Finally the attorney pulled the exe aside in the hall and said "Listen, the judge isn't going to care how good or bad the marriage was. Either you pay him his cut now or you're going to end up paying his cut AND be on the hook for spousal-support (alimony) for two years. Settle this today."


5 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

As a divorce attorney I've accomplished more than a few. The problem with most men and getting divorced is they marry broke and worthless women (do not marry a woman who makes less than $35k a year if you're going to get married). Women hate it when I ask for spousal support, demand an equal splitting of the assets (which usually includes their fat 401k), and subsequently get it before a judge. Granted this is when you have a guy who made good money for a long time but the job market has destroyed his career and funny enough the woman still has her six figure plus job and wants a divorce while the guy is trying to transition to a new gig (for richer or poorer? ladies say fuck that).

Problem is too many men just give the women anything they want and walk away calling it divorce rape. I prefer to fight it out than settle at mediation as I almost always get a better deal for my client than what the other side is offering. Last guy I took to a final hearing got $500 a month for seven years as alimony which isn't shit in the grand scheme but the wife had to split her 401k in half (which had over $300k in it), and she got to retain the house but was ordered to pay him rent (I asked the judge for an order of rent rather than forcing a sale as those can take forever) till the house was sold. Rent is another $500 a month. And she has to pay him child support.

Granted this is a woman earning over a $175k a year while my client is barely getting $40k a year (so he gets a good chunk in child support for 50/50 time sharing with his two kids). She tried all kinds of mental horseshit at mediation and was shocked when I demanded a caucus and told the mediator to step back when the mediator attempted to insist on letting the harpy have her rant about "people told me you would do this and I said no that wasn't him" schtick that most women try to pull.

I've gone after scum bags and assholes who destroy women and try to abandon their parental responsibilities. This guy wasn't one of those guys. He's a good guy who ran into some bad luck and found out his wife truly didn't love him. I had to be his frigging cheer squad and testicle attacher. Got him angry, got him vengeful, and so far it has worked out for him.

His ex is paying for his rent (not including utilities) till the house gets sold or seven years runs out. He gets a nice fat child support check that he's using to create a college fun for his kids (his choice, I feel bad for him and told him to sock it away for himself but he wouldn't listen). And walked away with his dignity.

Guys getting a divorce, need a lawyer, not despair.

5 upvotesStormhammer4 years ago

As much as I hate to say it, when my sister divorced her husband ( they just has differences - no cheating on either part or anything ), she ended up having to pay out to him.

You definitely get left torn, because you're like fuck yeah! Then it's your family... -_-

7 upvotesLuckyluke234 years ago

yeah man rather have a rich sister than a broke one

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-8 upvoteswaynebradysworld4 years ago

Keep your "advice" to yourself

3 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

The fuck are you on this sub for if not to listen to other men's opinions, prick.

-4 upvoteswaynebradysworld4 years ago

Im here to learn, reflect, converse, share. Just as much bad info here from users as good info. I'm here to judge other men's opinions and guide them when they are faultering. Look at this man's life, he should be learning and improving, not worrying about helping others at this point.

If you can take advice from a world champion or a rec-league bench Warmer, who do you choose

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3 upvotespdtrading4 years ago

What state is that? I wonder if NY has something like this.

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5 upvotesSdom14 years ago

He seriously needs to chill with the 20 year old Asian bitches though.

Why, does he have a gun to their heads?

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1 upvotesmuh-soggy-knee4 years ago

Asians in their 20s are pretty hot. Not sure I'd be complaining haha

1 upvotespdtrading4 years ago

Lol I laughed when you said that she was a stone cold bitch in the most complimentary way. I see, so New York seems rather fair. I guess the goal has become to marry up in terms of career woman, but honestly its such a bad spectrum. I thought marrying a chick from another country would be key, (though I've been loosing sight of the concept of marriage); but even those woman are becoming ridiculously Feministic. I take it that you moved from New York. I actually work in Manhattan, and went to school with ALOT of these asian girls that ended up in the big 4.

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2 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

Men absolutely have to look at marriage through a business lens given how women want "partners" and not "husbands" nowadays. I handed my wife a lock solid pre-nup over a year before we got married. I made her email me questions about it and i attached the emails as exhibits when it was executed over six months before the wedding. I did create a trust where we are both beneficiaries and I have to put five cents over every post tax dollar I earn where that amount exceeds $50k a year during the pendency of the marriage, but in exchange she waives all rights to alimony. I also put in an arbitration clause and grounds for appeal of the arbitration that can take the form of a separate divorce trial if the result reached in arbitration is inconsistent with the goal, intent, and agreed upon results of the pre-nup. I also attached all the supporting case law as exhibits to control the interpretation of the matter with a limitation on interpretation of any additional case or later reached legal opinion or stare decisis (I have fifteen pages dedicated to this in the prenup).

My wife's cousin in Massachusetts read the thing and called me and asked me if he could duplicate it for his purposes and I joked with him how he was a Mass. attorney and I'm a Florida attorney and he couldn't practice Florida law. He later figured out the equivalent cases he needed to match it.

Also, the thirty page trust is attached as an exhibit. And breach of the money thing doesn't void the pre-nup, it just creates a nuisance penalty (have a in there to make sure of it).

Child support would get me for a hefty chunk of change but that's why my corp. are owned by trusts and not me.

Avoid broke women, they are no good.

-112 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

I do not know the facts of the case but in general, I honestly don't think men should do this on a larger scale. You are stooping to the level of women who are either dependent on the government or on men whilst still shamelessly claiming to be a bunch of things.

I am not referring to your case just alimony in general.

55 upvotesManmore4 years ago

The ONLY way legal/social injustices will ever be dealed with, is if women are the 'victims' of them.

1 upvotesother_worlds4 years ago

Agree with you 100%. The double standard doesn't even register to the commenters, or to society yet.

I'm dating a woman who has never been married and I know she wants to. Unfortunately, I'll never marry unless divorce laws are dramatically reformed. It's just too risky.

This is one avenue towards that change.

1 upvotesManmore4 years ago

Yeah, that's what all men should do. I seriously don't understand why people want to be so fucking progressive regarding everything, yet marriage is for some reason (read: their woman want it) something men still think is fine. The problem will be solved by just avoiding marriage altogether.

The governement could just introduce new laws to deal with this though, and there's nothing anyone can do about it. It doesn't matter if the wage gap is a myth, if women and Obama says it's real, it's real. Bachelor/male tax to even out the global pay gap? You deserve it ladies.

-20 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

Look, the women paying alimony are a very small minority.

To get that number up, you will have to somehow have women make more money than the men which means rampant affirmative action and other governmental benefits.

That way more men might get alimony and it will finally be abolished because women will be the victims in a larger number. This is assuming women will begin marrying down in mass. Won't happen, they will get the AF and the 'accidental' babies and live off without the possible BB in this scenario.

You will end one social injustice by indirectly promoting another. Left to their own abilities, men will always make much more money than women. Again, this is assuming women will begin to marry down which is not going to happen.

TLDR; Women will have to be victims in a larger proportion to end alimony. This will happen if they make more money and begin marrying down, the latter will never happen in mass. I would not recommend stooping to their lows to even make a statement. It is a waste and there is no honor in living like a bitch.

4 upvotesDbthrwaway244 years ago

You mean say a situation where women out number men at post secondary institutions?

14 upvotesarrkane4 years ago

He made his point as to the why pretty clearly. He was contributing more monetarily than her in the relationship, not necessarily in making more or less, but paying while she stashed away. Parity is a fine ideal, but it works both ways.

-9 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

I am not referring to your case just alimony in general.

Alimony in general not his case.

10 upvotesFEMIMARXIST4 years ago

Taking the high road will get you nowhere. Alimony and other injustices will only end when women start feeling the pain.

2 upvotesoccupythekitchen4 years ago

well had he had children he would have been fucked

1 upvotesBorsao664 years ago

Doubtless, that's something I both regret and celebrate.

-2 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

not sure why you're being downvoted but thats pretty pathetic to be supported by a woman if you're not disabled/temporarily off work or something along those lines. why was he paying all the bills for both of them and being a BB for her? why wasn't he saving money on his own? why are we upvoting someone who's literally a beta bucks (to a woman that already has money) that can't support himself?

156 upvotesscarletspider34 years ago

It's interesting how the only time alimony even makes the news is when a woman has to pay.

77 upvotesHoodwink4 years ago

It's like a school shooting or tornado.

It's some tragedy to gawk at.

32 upvotesAdorableAnt4 years ago

Man bites dog is news, dog bites man not so much...

10 upvotesexit_sandman4 years ago

Well, the 1 billion $ settlement of that one guy made the news as well.

20 upvotesrp_divorced4 years ago

That one ended in the best way possible when she deposited the check against her lawyer's advice which constituted acceptance of the agreement she was trying to vacate so she could get more. The stupidity knows no bounds.

9 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

Oh no! Now she only has a billion dollars! What ever will she do?

8 upvotesvengefully_yours4 years ago

Stupidity or greed coupled with lack of foresight and accountability?

2 upvotesFuck_shadow_bans4 years ago

Link, please? I haven't heard of this one.

4 upvotesFeeFeeFeaster4 years ago

This bitch

1 upvotestrprich4 years ago

Here are the full details of the Case, if anyone's interested.

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95 upvotesdarkrood4 years ago

Here is wonderful modern Chinese saying shared among women:

"Ni de shi wo de, Wo de Hai shi Wo de." (What's yours is mine. What's mine is still mine.)

Don't be surprised if you ever get cleaned up, you've been warned.

21 upvotesTrueMetal4 years ago

Hah! I've heard that from my parents as well, who grew up in communist Romania.

28 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

A Romanian Ex-GF used to say the same thing all the time too. Her mother was head of the he house though, despite a fairly masculine father; I still feel sorry for the guy. It was clear he wanted a son and got two daughters when he showered me with gifts of old army equipment.

11 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

funny, as most modern feminists have a lot in common with the communist regimes of the 20th century.

7 upvotesTrueMetal4 years ago

Hell yes. It's all the same mechanism as you would see in what we'd call Cultural Marxism. The sheer amount of rationalization needed for these people scares me. That hamster must be running at warp speed, the bearings on the wheel should have burned out a long time ago.

3 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

Took a political history class, it was all women and the prof had a hard on for marxism so Im not surprised.

8 upvotesIoSonCalaf4 years ago

"Don't get mad, get everything!"--Ivanna Trump

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

American here, ive heard this saying before as well, years before I found TRP. Just another example of how women's thought processes knows no nationality.

14 upvotesnuesuh4 years ago

Enjoy your equality feminazis

13 upvotessymko4 years ago

Good, maybe the feminist hive mind will finally end alimony......................one day. i hope he remembers to include that he is,'accustomed to a certain lifestyle and he needs more money to travel to Europe.'

Pour that red wine in your glass and sip it, Feminazis.

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8 upvotesTurduckenII4 years ago

What will happen when lesbians start getting divorced now that gay marriage has become legal nationwide?

6 upvotesPedroIsWatching4 years ago

I don't know, but I can't wait to find out.

6 upvotestrprich4 years ago

A Kansas sperm donor caught in the middle of a child support case says he wanted to help a lesbian couple when he made the donation nearly five years ago.

Instead, he may end up paying for his action.

A judge ruled that William Marotta must pay child support, even though he says he signed documents waiving his parental rights.


3 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

If there's a kid involved, you can bet child support will come from the sperm donor... As for alimony, I guess the more masculine one will have to pay because masculine=bad.

0 upvotesElectricFleshlight4 years ago

A sperm donor has never once in the history of donation ever been forced to pay child support if he followed the proper channels and donated through a licensed sperm bank. Quit being hysterical beta bitch.

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

Just because it hasn't happened before doesn't mean it can't happen, but thanks for tearing me down instead of trying to build me up or contribute something to the discussion other than just shooting down what I had to say then calling me a bitch like a child. Way to spread the fraternal spirit, bro.

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77 upvotesdrallcom34 years ago

Now he gets alimony and can bang younger women (who don't cut their hair off). I'd like to high-five him.

17 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

yeah damn she lost at least 1.5 points after that hair cut.

4 upvotestrprich4 years ago

She hit the wall.

8 upvotessirmadam4 years ago

She should've kept her hair as it was, daft bint.

35 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

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9 upvotessirmadam4 years ago

Just so you know, she doesn't have any kids.

23 upvotesKolbath4 years ago

They got married after only a few months of dating... I think she might be super impulsive. Her haircut, for example: She was hot with long hair but she pumped out a few kids, walked into a barber and said,"I want to look like a Twinkie."

One of my irritations with the "Fappening" pics of her is she has that fucking hideous haircut. Why, Kaley!? Why couldn't you take your slutty pictures with your long hair?! It's enough to drive a man not to masturbate.

17 upvotesvandaalen4 years ago

I never understood what guys found so exceptionally hot about her. She's a 7 in my book at best. She's got funny body proportions, she's chubby, her face is unsymmetrical and she's got pouches like a bloodhound.

10 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

I thought she was pretty cute in the first couple seasons of the big bang theory, with those bangs and the long hair (and she was still ~20). But just like the show, no one really cares anymore that she is 9 years older.

Maybe part of the reason guys found her attractive is that it gave omega males 'hope' that they get a 7+ girl.

3 upvoteszomgimonreddit4 years ago

She's actually hot in the pilot, then either she gained a bunch of weight or they started showcasing her arm fat. I assume they had to make her more "relatable".

24 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

One wonders if they are aware, on any level, of their rampant hypocrisy.

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5 upvotesTman56914 years ago

There are plenty of women who are aware, but don't really care. After all, why put effort into changing a status-quo that favors yourself?

12 upvotesDishevel4 years ago

Not just women. It is the mentality of the left as a whole. Women's rights, gay rights, racial equality, the "War on Women", all of these things are simple. A certain segment of society believes wrongly and attempts to make it complicated so that they do not have to face their hypocrisy head on.

5 upvotesAlqahid4 years ago

Racial Equality. Oh good. My spine still hurts from the cringe I got after I read 1 tumblr post about Egyptians, Arabs, Romans, Vikings and Chinese being black and that white people are the source of evil and most killing.

It doesn't matter what I say, whether I prove more people died cause of Genghis Khan then any European ruler, or prove that White Ancient Greeks where more advanced then any Ancient Chinese dynasty, it's just hopeless. I don't even understand WHY feminazi's hate white people, while most of the time they are white themselves.

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2 upvotesiamkarnath4 years ago

Shame is the real mind-killer.

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1 upvotesiamkarnath4 years ago

I'm talking about "toxic" shame. The kind religions are built on.

As the catterpiller chooses the fairest leaves to lay her eggs, so the priest lays his curse on the fairest joys. -Blake

4 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

They've tricked many women into being useful idiots by pandering to them that they're somehow a victim of the 'patriarchy'... but we all know middle-class white women are the biggest benefactors of affirmative action and other forms of government favoritism which far exceeds that of any man regardless of race. Why doesn't anyone bring up this point? Well they have, but it falls on deaf ears because Patriarchy.

If we go full blown Marxist, the white women will be thrown under the bus even faster than they are trying currently with the whole 'white privilege' bullshit. Divide and conquer, one niche group at a time. If the Marxists can convince society to introduce policy based on 'equaling privilege', which I believe is their end goal to enact more communist policy, the white-female Marxists will be decapitated shortly afterwards from all their benefits and authority in one fell swoop, not realizing they were being treated as pawns the entire time.

4 upvotesrecon_johnny4 years ago

we all know middle-class white women are the biggest benefactors

We do, but they don't. Truly. They rationalize shit beyond a level I thought was possible. I saw this rationalization mechanism in full fucking force again---from my wife---about 15 mins ago. I thought in my head "Do you know what the fuck you're saying?". She doesn't, so I just A&A and Ignored.

1 upvotesElodrian4 years ago

How does Genghis' body count stack up to Stallins?

1 upvotesputinbush104 years ago

About 40 mil. Give or take. He killed enough that there was a change in the O2 levels around the world. Thats pretty fucking cool.

1 upvotesPedroIsWatching4 years ago

The commenters on the article are screeching about how he signed a prenup and he should be happy with that in response to anyone that brings up the hypocrisy. Never mind that they're all conveniently forgetting that if the shoe was on the other foot they'd be calling for the prenup to be struck down and to take the guy to the cleaners.

23 upvotespopthatpill4 years ago

This shows us that the intuitive understanding women have of spousal support is that it's something that's supposed to flow from men to women, not the other way around.

This is another example of women determining society's moral standards - which, of course, they rig to favour themselves.

6 upvotesDylan_Tnga4 years ago

Wow, hypocrisy is off the scale on this one. Good find.

Another irresponsible guy that wants to live off the hard work of a woman. Seriously Ryan, Get a job and support yourself. You aren't physically challenged.

LOL. Talking about this like it's a common situation when it's the exact opposite. 90% of the time or more the woman is leeching off the mans income, and divorce rapes him the moment a better, more alpha prospect comes into the picture.

Again, this is hypocrisy at it's finest

44 upvotesremyseven4 years ago

And women wonder why chivalry died. It's because you wanted equal rights. You got 'em!

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27 upvotesActuarial4 years ago

Only shovels can be shovelrous

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

Chivalry was pretty much just rules for sword combat... So yeah that shits dead.

6 upvotesEx-AlodianKnight4 years ago

Wait, Kaley Cuoco divorced? That's fast

13 upvotesKolbath4 years ago

Wait, Kaley Cuoco divorced? That's fast

It's fuckin Hollywood. I think they preprint divorce filing documents on the back of the wedding licenses there.

1 upvotesjustadavid4 years ago

Yeah, she's the one with the gawdawful short haircut.

12 upvotesBorn2Ball4 years ago

I'm sure they can somehow blame the patriarchy to rationalize this.

95 upvoteshebola4lyfe4 years ago

Women are shit people. My own mother would react exactly like those women . The hypocrisy in every woman's life is so overwhelming that they themselves can't see it ; it is as if they wake up wearing it like their own skin every morning .

I think women are trolling us and society by communicating telepathically with each other. Are they seriously this oblivious or maybe they are pretending to not see it ?

To think that I use to consider taking them seriously at one point . I honestly thought women were reasonable people . Now I realize how fucked up they are .

63 upvotessweetleef4 years ago

The hypocrisy in every woman's life is so overwhelming that they themselves can't see it

In most cases, there are no universal, objective truths or codes from a woman's perspective. Rules and standards do not apply equally to every person, but are applied selectively according to how that rule makes the woman feel in a particular situation.

The idea of a woman getting alimony makes the woman feel good, so it's a good thing. A woman paying alimony makes her feel bad, so it's bad. The fact that the two positions are logically inconsistent and unjust doesn't enter into her thinking.

8 upvotesNiftyDolphin4 years ago

The idea of a woman getting alimony makes the woman feel good, so it's a good thing. A woman paying alimony makes her feel bad, so it's bad. The fact that the two positions are logically inconsistent and unjust doesn't enter into her thinking.

Feelings has nothing to do with it. You're not factoring in solipsism.

Say you have a situation where two parties, a man and a woman, have a conflict and are observed by a third party, a woman (observer).

The observer, if she doesn't have prior motivation toward a particular outcome, and the outcome of the conflict does not personally affect the observer, then the observer will view the conflict as herself being in that conflict in the female's role.

So if she observes a conflict, where no matter what happens, she won't personally benefit, she'll think, "Well, if he tried that with me, then I'd...<reasons>."

If she observes a conflict in which she does personally benefit from the outcome, she's going to place herself in the role of whomever is championing her desired outcome.

So it's not "a woman" it's "me."

"The idea of a woman me getting alimony makes the woman me feel good, so it's a good thing."

"A woman Me paying alimony makes her me feel bad, so it's bad."

Then her positions make perfect sense. It's pure self-interest.

14 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

"Rules and standards do not apply equally to every person, but are applied selectively according to how that rule makes the woman feel in a particular situation.

Men have Logic and Reason; Women have Feelings and Emotions.

3 upvotessunwukong1554 years ago

Oh that's bullshit. Women have reason and men have emotion. Were not robots and they aren't animals. Women are just women, you can hate them or you can love them for what they are.

They draw their identity heavily from their emotions while men form a more intellectual concept of their identity. We usually form it around our goals and ambitions while women form it off their relationships.

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

You're right and basically said the same thing I said. I'm saying those dominant characteristics override the others. For men L&R usually overrides F&E; for women it's usually the opposite. I'm not saying or implying the non-dominant characteristics aren't present. Most of the time Men's decisions are based on L&R, while most of the time Women's decisions are based on F&E...and that is when they actually make a decision. Usually they get to subtle-hint their way through life and wait to be lead to where they really want to go. Subtle hints allow them to bypass rejection and responsibility for their actions. Brilliant really.

1 upvotessunwukong1554 years ago

Okay I gotcha. Men need to be tough, that's always been true. But trying to act like men don't have emotions is stupid macho shit that I get annoyed with.

Also when I hear people say women don't have any logic or reason.. Just comes off as whiney anger phase shit.

Good message for newcomers though. Rely on your reason and logical, be a man. Understand women are gonna be emotional. But don't think both parties lack the others main characteristic.

I honestly pity women. Being emotional they can't function well under the feminist society we have. Men can at least try to adapt and not get fucked. Women are much happier and better off in a traditional society. It's nothing but hard work and extra responsibility in both societies for men however, so fuck it, we'll manage.

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I don't pity the ones who have their emotional act together. I've known a few who were pretty cool and had a handle on their Emotional Chaos Syndrome, but they are a needle in a haystack. I have no sympathy for those who manipulate with their emotions. It's like Karmic payback when they feel as though their lives are falling apart. So much of the problems we all face are self-created in one way or another. Some events are out of our control while others are not.

"Women are much happier and better off in a traditional society."

Bingo. I totally believe this. Feminism has tricked them into thinking they can have it all, and that includes trying to do everything men do: leading comes to mind. You can see why they hate the beta chumps they end up marrying. They resent having to lead. They would rather take comfort in knowing their man has it under control.

Hopefully the pendulum will stop swinging in this direction and eventually go back to a natural course of relations between men and women. At least we're fortunate to have discovered this sub and grown from it. We're miles ahead of the majority of the population.

0 upvotesjdotg4 years ago

Men have Logic and Reason; Women have Feelings and Emotions.

Isn't that how the force in star wars works lol fucking jedis have reason and the dark side uses emotion. George Lucas was a red piller. Not a single women jedi.

3 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

For some reason, I was reading up on the force yesterday. Tl;dr both sides have things about them that do (and don't) line up with red pill ideology.

The dark side's (or sith's, in particular) reliance on emotion is what I'd consider breaking frame at times, but for the most part the rest of their tenets are pretty red pill. Some examples including a strong belief of survival of the fittest, using deep levels of anger to accomplish goals (anger phase, anyone?), and growth through conflict (our version would be called living by the stone) amongst others. The Jedi may have logic, but they also sometimes suffer from pacifistic tendencies and inaction due to overthinking things.

The Sith definitely, in my mind, have more of a red pill philosophy, especially when you consider examples of the ideologies of each side. Even Yoda dragged his feet at times. However, you can see cases of Sith that mastered self control despite supposedly being the more emotional side. Darth Malgus being a great example - killing off his lover because he knew she could be used against him.

I've been considering writing a sort of "philosophy of Star Wars" post for a while now. Lots of red pill lessons throughout the Star Wars universe. If there's some interest, I'll start working on it.

1 upvotesjustadavid4 years ago

Princess Leia is supposed to be strong with the Force ...

1 upvotesjdotg4 years ago

Supposedly but you never see her use it

10 upvotesthrough_a_ways4 years ago

The idea of a woman getting alimony makes the woman feel good, so it's a good thing. A woman paying alimony makes her feel bad, so it's bad. The fact that the two positions are logically inconsistent and unjust doesn't enter into her thinking.

Women aren't unique in this, though.

The difference I'd say is that the vast, vast, majority of women are like this, while only the majority of men are.

17 upvotessweetleef4 years ago

Women aren't unique in this, though.

I agree, a majority of men do this to some degree.

A difference, though, might be that men in general are at least capable of recognizing that objective truths, standards, and reasons exist. They choose to ignore them when it's convenient, out of selfishness, laziness, impulse, greed, etc., but they can at least acknowledge them.

In contrast, women seem to be incapable of recognizing them at all, if they produce a result counter to their feelings.

For example, I know a woman whose boyfriend is a petty criminal. She consistently justifies his crimes for always-changing reasons. After talking to her at length, it's clear that she genuinely cannot grasp that his crimes are wrong, at least in the way her feelings define "wrong". She understands that crime is wrong in general, but HIS crimes aren't the same kind of wrong, because of whatever reason she can invent (parenting, bad luck, malicious bosses, stress in his life, etc., etc.). She really cannot comprehend that liking the criminal doesn't change the character of the crime; it's some kind of cognitive dissonance so powerful that she's truly blind to it.

On the other hand, the boyfriend knows damn well what he's doing is wrong and will openly say so - he just doesn't give a shit.

7 upvotesRedSugarPill4 years ago

You just clearly explained a lot of very successful men.

1 upvoteskick64 years ago

No, they're not unique, BUT society collectively beats men over the head with the reality stick assuring that the men who are this stupid pay dearly for their delusions. Women? Not so much.

0 upvotesthrough_a_ways4 years ago

society collectively beats men over the head with the reality stick assuring that the men who are this stupid pay dearly for their delusions. Women? Not so much.

This is only true with regards to male-female conflicts.

1 upvoteskick64 years ago

I disagree. I think men have all of their perceptions constantly re-aligned with reality.

3 upvotesoccupythekitchen4 years ago

Yes there is herd mentality, women biologically strive to fit in the herd so if they hear eating shit is good their whole life 90% will and compliment the taste if the majority is doing it. Now a handful will say hey this is shit I'm not eating this and that's when the flock turns on them. "Oh she's too good to eat shit with us, who does she thinks she is..."

1 upvoteszephyrprime4 years ago

This explanation is right on. Women's do not believe in logical thinking. Their rationalizations are selfish like those of a child.

29 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

but did you see the last part, written by a woman. Some are good, some are bad, blanket statements don't work

31 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

We have stereotypes for a reason. There is always an exception that proves the rule.

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17 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

The thing is, stereotypes exist because of the majority. Just because 1 in 5 disagree or don't fit into the stereotype doesn't invalidate it.

7 upvotesShounenEgo4 years ago

And I'm still baffled with how people don't understand that when someone says "NOT EVERYONE! I AM DIFFERENT" he claims that he is the exception to a RULE. He confirms that there is a rule but it doesn't work for him. He doesn't prove that the rule is false for the majority.

Somehow people don't get that.

1 upvotesSoarinc4 years ago

BINGO! They don't exist because of the exception, but because of the majority.

-1 upvotes_orion4 years ago

The positive statement was obviously made by a fat girl

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

Can you say why you thought she was fat? I pictured /u/girlwriteswhat - and she's definitely not fat - moderately attractive, in fact.

-3 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

Michael Jackson named his son blanket. You got a problem with Michael Jackson?

5 upvotesHumanSockPuppet4 years ago

Women are not shit people. They're just shit men. Stop expecting them to have the principles of men.

Women evolved needing other people to provide for and protect them. Of course they're going to mercilessly seize at every advantage. It's the only strategy their biology knows.

Every social attitude and law in existence declares that women are your inferiors. It's time you started acting that way yourself.

4 upvoteskick64 years ago

They're not trolling us, they're shit testing us, and we're collectively failing as a culture.

7 upvotesCyralea4 years ago

It's partly because women are much better at compartmentalizing reality than men. They're perfectly capable of picturing themselves as good, upstanding human beings by separating their good, empathetic behaviour from their psychotic, self-serving behaviour.

Most women will mentally rewrite the facts such that she is a victim entitled to the things she's taking from others. In that way she only sees the good in herself. You could literally ask all 3.5 billion women if they think they're a good person and they'd all say yes.

Were a man to exhibit these qualities most people would rightly think him insane.

3 upvotesoccupythekitchen4 years ago

The guy who shot from the clocktower in Austin had a diary. He knew he was going crazy but couldn't reason himself out. At least he had awareness of something being wrong

3 upvotesrunnerrun24 years ago

They've been getting away with it in the current left-wing political climate, that's why they keep doing it. No patriarchy to call them out on it.

-1 upvotesfoldpak1114 years ago

I can't even imagine living as a woman. What a fucked up way to live. They aren't even capable of friendship.

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3 upvotesRedSovereign4 years ago

No concern trolling.

10 upvotesItsCold_ItsCold4 years ago

We aren't the ones carrying out harassment campaigns against people with different opinions from us or creating entire movements to systematically fuck freethinking men over, all with the full support of the majority of both western government and western people. I wouldn't call it hate so much as extreme aggravation.

1 upvotesScience_isthenewcool4 years ago

Nice concern trolling. Stfu, read the side bar and the top 100 posts of all time before you comment again newfag.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

bro I'm not disareeing with you but you calling him a newfag paints you in an even worse light than Shelwyn LOL.

1 upvotesScience_isthenewcool4 years ago

Look at how many fucks I give.

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3 upvotesrporion4 years ago

Yeah, 80 votes out of 130000...


Downvoted, for stupidity....

12 upvotesplenkton4 years ago

Men and women both speak. One might assume both speak from rational faculty. Wrong. Not bad, just wrong.

Men's speech is formulated by response of logic.

Women's speech is formulated by response to emotion.

Again, not bad that it's different, but the assumption that men/women formulate speech the same is wrong.

Men are our specie's builders, and thus their rational faculty encourages value-creation, which is (currently) best achieved through cooperation. Men use logic to determine how to best serve each other, and therefore themselves.

Women are our specie's lifegivers, and are able to best acquire resources by manipulating/bargaining-with males. Their emotions determine who they pander to, and who they should exclude. Their emotions best enable them to survive, and thus it's their primary tool for dealing with reality.

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2 upvotesplenkton4 years ago

Man's cooperation stops when you directly limit his reproductive ability. However short of that, men do cooperate.

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0 upvotesplenkton4 years ago

That is primal behaviour, which women take part in more than men.

0 upvoteszephyrprime4 years ago

His behavior is logical. He is preventing other males from poaching his mate. His actions are no less effective and practical than that of a male lion chasing off other males from his pride of female lions. He does not expect you to mindread and know that it was his girl. You are being solipistic and only seeing things from your own vantage point because you are butthurt. Whether the other male knows or doesn't know the girl is his is irrelevent to him. What's relevent is that another male is hitting on and potentially taking his mate away. Does it matter if a gun is shot accidentally or on purpose when it is aimed at you? It matters to the police but in the moment the only rational action for you is to get out of the way of the bullet as fast as possible.

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1 upvotesDrXaos4 years ago

He doesn't expect you to know. He expects you to obey.

8 upvotesfoldpak1114 years ago

I want to see her get thrown in prison because she can't make montly payments, never gets a chance to see her kids, and driven to the point of suicide. I have absolutely no mercy.

23 upvotesIronMeltsinmyHands4 years ago

Bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks.

My good friend Tupac errbody! Nigga dead tho.

56 upvoteswiziwig4 years ago

Bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks.

That was dr dre and snoop not tupac.

-7 upvotesfortifiedoranges4 years ago

The CIA assassinated Tupac and Biggie.

19 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

We're doing crazy conspiracies? Here's one I like: Biggie died from a heart attack due to his morbid obesity, but that's no way for a legend to go, so his friends shot him after his death to make it look like he was murdered.

2 upvotesWesNg4 years ago

Wouldn't the autopsy reflect that?

9 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

Probably, hence my crazy conspiracy likely isn't true. But let's double down. Maybe the examiner did a shoddy job and said "bullet in the brain, that's it, let's stop looking."

2 upvoteslaere4 years ago

Heart disease and it's oppression, smh.

1 upvotesslyninja774 years ago

It was also good for recird sales.

2 upvotesTrueMetal4 years ago

My good friend Tupac errbody! Nigga dead tho.

Nigga lives on in our hearts tho.

2 upvotesmaadkekz4 years ago

Are there any precedents for this?

What are the odds that Kaley's more expensive lawyers will see to it that our man receives little to no money at all from this? Let's not forget the legal system is heavily skewed in favour of women.

3 upvotesonehonesttruth4 years ago

There is in my family.

My dad had very poor employment throughout his life, and brought nothing to the table when it comes to finances. My mom was the one with a solid career. They divorce, my dad asks for half the value of the home (which he never contributed for). She had to refinance her home to re-purchase her half, even though she had paid for it entirely. Thankfully, her lawyer and his lawyer agreed on the original home purchase price, and not the current market value of the home at the time (which had increased in value by like 20%).

1 upvotesarobotspointofview4 years ago

I think that's still true to some degree, but not as much as much as I used to believe. I now believe that divorce is skewed in favor of children and the person who makes less money - which is usually the woman anyways.

1 upvotesBrave_Horatius4 years ago

If you look at the actual laws they're often drafted gender neutrally but the presumption is there that it'll be a woman benefiting. A lot has to do with the judge anyway. Criminal law is avowedly gender neutral but women end up on different charges or get lighter sentences

2 upvotesrp_divorced4 years ago

I know this is thinking logically and is trying to apply logic to the thoughts of women which in general is a stupid thing to attempt, but there's a possibility the women who are making the comments on that article are not the usual commenters that we see on a daily basis.

These commenters might be the one's who usually keep quiet because they understand that men are still the leaders despite what the feminists say and are expected to "man up" and seeing a man come after a woman's money is enough to get them to speak up. Now, we all know they're just as crazy but I have a suspicion that this is a completely different group of women.

1 upvotesjustadavid4 years ago

... it might be interesting to start a "pile-on" (a.k.a., "brigading") on threads like this. I know, I know, I'm just saying it might be interesting to expose women to "divorce rape", "alimony", and so forth. ... "So you're saying no one should get alimony? Are you willing to write your Congress-critter and advocate that?" ... "So you're saying the only people who should get alimony are women ... after they get the kids, the house, half the assets, and continual alimony and child support from the man? That's divorce-rape and it happens every day."

Might be fun to take the truth and post it. Regimes like feminazis cannot tolerate any truth. --D

2 upvotesgosserbeer4 years ago

Where are the comments coming from

1 upvotesRedPillGold [OP]4 years ago

different Facebook articles - I searched for kaley Cuoco after I found that article

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

"What a loser! He must be a crap tennis player and not taught by his parents that real men support themselves and not leech off of anyone else."

Real Men ™

2 upvotesRealworld524 years ago

It is ironic and easy to point out the injustice, but as a gender what the hell are we going to do about it? At what point will their be representation for the men in this country?

2 upvotesswank864 years ago

I believe most of the comments belong in MRA with the other whiners. Sure there is poetic justice with a man eligible for alimony, but we shouldn't succumb to the idiotic levels of women.

1 upvotesBignmybrain4 years ago

Is it just me or does any one else see an issue with one individual who makes a shit ton on money wanting money from another individual who makes a shit tonier more of money more than the first individual?
Regardless of gender, it's shitty to try and take money from someone because you can't live within you means. I don't know the situation and all I have is the title and explanation from this post, but he's either a bitch or trying to prove a point by hitting her where it hurts... Her money... Which is what bitches do. I don't see anything positive coming out of this.

1 upvoteszephyrprime4 years ago

"shaming him into the ground for being a deadbeat loser".

If he were a deadbeat loser, he would be MORE justified to having her money. The whole reason alimony exists is to support the spouse who has much worse income generating ability. A deadbeat loser has horrible income generating ability. What kind of job will he get? Some poorly paid low skill manual labor or service job. A person who can only make a modest income after divorce is exactly the type of person alimony is supposed to help.

Feminists are showing once again how feminism is about women getting more benefits (monetart but also sexual and social) for women at the expense of men. It is not about equality and hasn't been since first wave feminism.

1 upvoteswetmont4 years ago

How do you pronounce her last name? Is it like when you say Cuckoo clock? And shouldn't that be Coo Coo clock?

1 upvotesIMakeUpJargon4 years ago

The first syllable is pronounced "woah" with a "k" sound at the front, so "kwoah". The second syllable is pronounced "koh", so it's kwoah-koh.

1 upvotesskeletorcares4 years ago

To women my/our money is ours. Her money is hers.

Her debt? Also mine.

1 upvotessymko4 years ago

Regarding alimony I'd like to point out that the minute alimony hurts women en masse is the day that alimony dies.

As a realist, single mothers are the most impoverished minority in America. Single mothers are on section 8, welfare, lower housing income and WIC. These women couldn't even imagine the nightmare of paying alimony. What's amazing is that feminist believe they are winning! When you don't tow the line, you get left behind.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

I hope he uses some of that alimony cheese on his new girlfriend too

1 upvotesBlueVegas4 years ago

So why was this post deleted?

1 upvotesgetRedPill4 years ago

Some user posted in Los Angeles Times this comment

Ryan Sweeting is delusional if he thinks he'll get spousal support after a marriage that only lasted 22 months with no kids. He's an able bodied person with his own career and that prenup is probably airtight as far as spousal support is concerned.

User's nickname is "LaBellaLuna" and is obviously a girl. They aren't able to see this happens daily but genders reversed. They don't even notice.

1 upvotesElectricFleshlight4 years ago

Alimony is never awarded for marriages that short. Why don't you talk about reals instead of feels?

0 upvotesTheMGhandi4 years ago

A woman usually is fine living on her own, and hopes for a man someday. A whore can't stop wanting service or entertainment from a man. Hard to say who is complaining about what, and what kind of woman would even support feminism. Let's call the spade, a spade, shall we?

Oh, and, let's only mention women in this sub? I'm getting tired of all the mentioning about those who aren't women. Are they even worth mentioning? Not a dime if you count change, or even two cents.

0 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

This is exactly why I posted my post on consuming media that isn't meant for you.


This article should be a waste of your time. rage bait, statrting a fight over facebook on some shit that isn't even designed for your eyes.

And every BS statement in it will eventually have source amnesia. you'll forget all teh bullshit parts being bullshit, and eventually internalize it as reality.

1 upvotesRedPillGold [OP]4 years ago

I'm don't read these female drama articles normally, this one just caught my eye

0 upvotesLeftShark864 years ago

While the role reversal is a breath of fresh air, I don't think we should be supporting this type of bs behaviour from men or women.

The article doesn't go into much detail, but it looks like they had a prenup in 2013, so the money situation should be clearly defined already.

1 upvotessirmadam4 years ago

They can be thrown out, remember.

0 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

Pre-nups are usually only thrown out when it benefits the woman.

0 upvotesjohnchapel4 years ago

Females are not always feminists. So you can't exactly accuse hypocrisy here.

Frankly if you ask me, aren't they saying the same shit WE would be saying to him?

3 upvotesClockshade4 years ago

It's good if he can get spousal support. So many men are fucked by the system, I'd be happy if he can fuck it back, even if it is just the tip. Good for him.

3 upvotesjohnchapel4 years ago

Sure. Fair enough. But the concept of alimony is fucking retarded even when you set aside that it historically fucks mostly men.

Suddenly applying it to women doesn't legitimize it. All it is now is a reason to never get married.

1 upvotesTattedGuyser4 years ago

There's a lot in this life that's 'fucking retarded', doesn't mean you can't use it to your advantage. If you can get a free 1,500$ a month to put towards your life goals, shit why not? Use it.

0 upvotesjohnchapel4 years ago

Specifically because taking a free lunch off the backs of those who didn't offer it makes one a lazy peice of shit.

-47 upvotestyranus894 years ago

Well, now we know why she divorced this beta.

Seriously, I understand that these women are retarded for complaining about this, but we at TRP know that alimony is bullshit. What a fucking beta thing to do -- you're a professional tennis player and you publicly ask for support from your ex-wife? I'm baffled if he ever gets laid again, especially considering that women hold resources in such high regard and he's proven he'll take them from you instead of provide them.

Although hypocritical, the original arguments were at least valid.

28 upvotesRedPillGold [OP]4 years ago

Im baffled if he ever gets laid again

Assuming women know what they actually find attractive in a man. Odds are he'll get laid because he's already worth 2mil.

19 upvotesNakedAndBehindYou4 years ago

Taking alimony is more of a dark triad Machiavellian "take everything I can get" attitude rather than a beta attitude.

You're basically engaging in the same "man up and get fucked by the law" attitude as those women.

I'm baffled if he ever gets laid again

He's a famous athlete. Chances are the pussy is already lining up at his doorstep.

1 upvotesnishal14 years ago

Also he got laid by and even married a Hollywood actress. That's huge social proof.

13 upvotes • [deleted] • 4 years ago

If it's divorce time, all bets are off. Beta? There's a good chance it has nothing to do with being beta. In fact, he probably just wants to fuckin win.

9 upvotesBorn2Ball4 years ago

If enough men take a stance against this bullshit system we have in place, maybe someday we can actually manage to change it for the better. I give major props to this guy for highlighting this issue for the world to see just how fucked up it is.

2 upvotespopthatpill4 years ago

Exactly. This is a good example of Alinsky's rule #4 - make them live up to their own book of rules.

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5 upvotespopthatpill4 years ago

using it exactly how it was intended?

He's not. Spousal support was never intended to direct money from women to men.

34 upvotesLord_Sif4 years ago

I think someone missed the point.

Why not? Women get alimony? Seems more of a beta thing to say that men (you don't know, no less) should just MAN UP while women can have all the alimony they want.

The only 'beta' here is you.

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15 upvotesBorn2Ball4 years ago

Do you know how they fix corporate loop holes? When people take advantage of them. Same goes for alimony, except in this case they're expecting only women to benefit. If enough men start benefiting they will be forced to recognize how terrible these laws are and change them to make it a more fair system for everyone.

9 upvotessweetleef4 years ago

I agree with your consistency argument.

The issue I have is judging the man's actions as negative because using alimony makes him somehow "weak", rather than because alimony in general is bad.

Saying "alimony is bullshit, and for that reason the man shouldn't use it" would be more consistent.

1 upvotesnishal14 years ago

As long as or shit system exists, it should benefit members of both sides of it. 96% of the time it benefits women. Let us enjoy the 4% of the time it benefits men.

That being said, it's a shit system but like game, if you don't play you automatically lose. Just because someone may not like how the red pill tastes doesn't mean that's not the way things currently are. Same with the law, it sucks but it is what it is and you'd have to be a retard to not take advantage of your legal rights.

6 upvotessweetleef4 years ago

I'm baffled if he ever gets laid again,

If he wins, he'll have more money, and therefore a higher chance of getting laid.

3 upvotesreal-boethius4 years ago

we at TRP know that alimony is bullshit

The world is what it is. Using the system against itself is a standard tactic. Read Saul Alinsky's books for the same thing from the left.

If you want to make men's rights arguments you can easily find the appropriate sub-reddit. Just don't mention its name here.

3 upvotesthrough_a_ways4 years ago

I'm baffled if he ever gets laid again, especially considering that women hold resources in such high regard and he's proven he'll take them from you instead of provide them.

He's pretty good looking and 6'5". Actually, that could be the main reason he was able to pull this off.

0 upvoteswaynebradysworld4 years ago

Delusion bruv. Hit the side bar

-11 upvotesAntibuddy4 years ago

You're the voice of reason here and you're getting downvoted because idiots rule the world.

I disagree with you on one point: he will absolutely have no trouble getting laid.

However I agree with you in that if you object to the notion of alimony, then you must reject it in all forms, even when it benefits someone you like. Taking advantage of a corrupt system for your own gain doesn't make a statement against that system. This doesn't help end alimony. It keeps it going.

People here are just like the feminists OP quotes who were probably all for a woman getting alimony, but now suddenly against it when a man does. Here, the guys are suddenly for it when a man gets it. It makes no sense and reveals how logically bankrupt they are.

And while I'm here, let me tell you about something else that makes NO sense about this sub's membership. Alimony in a regular divorce without adultery involved is straight up determined by income and worth. There are ways to game the system such as selling off assets, hiding money, etc., but purely in conceptual form that's what it's about. Yet, so many members in this sub want a traditional marriage where the woman would be working much less and therefore not being worth as much. They want a happy housewife at home to come home to for dick sucking and dinner, but not a professional. So they are setting themselves up for divorce rape. At the same time, they are terrified of it. It goes like this:

  1. Alimony is determined by differences in income and in/ability to support oneself..

  2. Having a traditional marriage leaves your wife unable to support herself.

  3. You are scared shitless of divorce rape.

  4. You want a traditional marriage????


9 upvotes-uftw-4 years ago

You must be new here. This sub doesn't advocate for traditional marriage. It advocates NO marriage at all. Because marriage is a pile of bullshit in this day and age. Now when a man uses women's weapons to expose this bullshit, we can all have a good laugh about it.

0 upvoteschrisindub4 years ago

This sub also advocates not having children, which from a biological perspective is..... the end of your DNA and your bloodline. Lol

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1 upvoteschrisindub4 years ago

Well, if you believe Red Pill theory and you look at male and female relationships purely from a scientific standpoint...

I.e. This is all a complex biological game, women are sexually attracted to alphas because they want high quality DNA from alpha males.

Then it is interesting that this sub advocates not passing on your DNA and reproducing.

As that is THE MOST core beta characteristic since beta DNA is low value. The game of life is reproducibility, and you fail at that game by opting out of it.

No matter how you hamster yourself into thinking it's a good idea.

You just hamstered yourself into the end of your DNA.

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