Summary

A lesbian co-worker figured me as being Red Pill, without me saying a word about it. This post explains how she might have figured it out.

The Story

So I'm currently working abroad in an austere environment, doing shift work, in a fairly masculine line of work (about 85-90% male). Recently, a new girl showed up at work, part of a rotation of a new crew who are going to replace my team (this isn't me getting fired or us losing a contract or anything, it's a normal rotation).

I'm supposed to mentor her, and train her in our procedures, etc. She shows up, and she's pretty cool. She's openly lesbian, but didn't set off my gaydar when we initially met since she's not a stereotypical bulldyke. Because there's no sexual tension whatsoever, we're able to converse like two dudes, really. She's newer to the biz than I, but cool as shit and good at her work - she's definitely earning my respect in that regard. But over the course of the shift, the conversation goes to infidelity at one point.

She mentioned that being away from her woman, she's concerned that her girlfriend back home will leave her, and return to the husband (yep, my coworker stole a dude's wife).

I told her that her girlfriend isn't worth worrying about... GF back home may very well go back to her hubby because she's sooooo lonely while her new lady is out of the country. But even if she doesn't, she'll may well fuck him a few times, or get some strange on the side. Because if she's willing to leave him for you, she's willing to leave you for him (or another her).

I tell her that her girlfriend was probably just bicurious and wanted some adventure, and a dyke was just the adventure she was looking for. You're the flavour of the month for that woman, so don't expect fidelity.

She seems to get it, and drops this one on me... "You know, I totally get why those Red Pill guys are on about - women are awful! It's not really about hating women, it's really more about setting expectations low and avoiding getting hurt"

Well, she's not 100% right, but that's closer to the truth about TRP than I've ever heard a woman mention in the past. And I'd never met a woman - gay or straight - who brought up TRP in the conversation.

Couple shifts later, the conversation comes around again, and we start telling funny stories

I mention an anecdote about a time a girlfriend of six months had thrown a bit of a sulky tantrum over the phone, and refused to tell me what was wrong. So fuck it, I'm not going to ask what's wrong, I'll just ask if she wants to hang out the coming weekend. Over the phone she snidely tells me "maybe." I say "okay," hang up, and never talked to her again. Ever.

My coworker thought it was hilarious, and that it was an awesome way to "break a shit test".

Ok, my Spidey Senses are going off - this is the second time that TRP terminology is coming up. I'm pretty sure she's dropping these hints because she expects I've internalized some TRP mindset and wants to know for sure, by gauging my reaction to the terms.

Interesting.

The Analysis

So what the fuck happened? I've never mentioned TRP, not even MGTOW or the manosphere, nor did I use any terminology at any point.

Well, I think that with 100k+ subscribers, there's an even greater number of lurkers who are also reading this stuff. The cat's really out of the bag, this shit ain't secret no more. I expect that the majority of English speaking people under 30 with access to the internet have at least HEARD OF (if not accepted) The Red Pill. Yes, that includes women. And dykes.

So it's not unexpected that she's familiar with it - how did she link it to me?

Now I've only been reading this sub about 2 years give or take (don't post much at all, read occasionally) but I've been pretty much red-pill all my life. My only mistakes before consciously taking the pill was I would occasionally forget AWALT, and believed women would value my past commitment to them. But I always set boundaries and took the lead, demonstrated my value, and generally wouldn't give a fuck if the relationship ended. So mostly Red Pill for 20+ years I suppose.

These points came across in my anecdotes. I told stories that unintentionally revealed TRP theory in my practical examples, though I didn't use the terminology. That, plus my behaviour, my body language also outed me. I relax and take up space anywhere I'm at. I walk and speak with confidence. I talk to superiors, subordinates, peers and strangers alike as if they're old buddies. I'm affable, confident, and generally zero stress. I'm unmarried in my 40s, with no kids.

In essence, she deduced that I'm TRP aware (at the very least) because of the character traits I possess and how I behaved. It's my hypothesis that the more and more men start to demonstrate "Alpha" traits as TRP knowledge spreads, the more women will assume they're indeed "Red Pill guys" - for good or ill. With growth comes exposure.

Nonetheless, I still think that a woman - even if she KNOWS a man is Red Pill - she will still want him if he is truly high value. The tingles don't care if she consciously knows you're TRP - the tingles rule the conscious mind in women.

Lessons learned:

  1. The first rule of TRP is don't fucking talk about TRP. Some people are hostile, I lucked out she had a benign view of what we discuss here.

  2. Even if you don't talk about TRP, with greater exposure, more people (men and women, gay and straight) will be able to identify you as a Red Pill Man by your behaviour and attitude. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but don't be surprised if it happens.

  3. If somebody drops a TRP term in your presence, put on your fucking poker-face.

  4. AWALT. Even lesbians... And bi-curious women who get bored of their beta hubby, too.

  5. Everybody's attracted to an Alpha. Yes, she's a lesbian, but she opened up to me and sought out my friendship. Because I'm a fucking cool person to know. And unsurprisingly, so is she. After all, she's an Alpha too - an Alpha dyke that can steal men's wives from them. We're getting along famously.

  6. Yo, if you're my co-worker and you're reading this - what's up?! post a comment! But in person, Save the red pill talk for night shift. I got another fucking hilarious story for ya. Cheers!

edit: formatting, forgot a word