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Melania Trump, Red Pill Woman

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February 25, 2016
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I always thought of her as pure arm candy, to the extent that I thought of her at all. But just listen to what she has to say, as the wife of probably the most red pill man on the planet. The gal can sniff a loaded question and shut it down like nobody's business:

"Well, Melania, everyone knows your husband hates immigrants. Isn't it hypocritical that he married you?"

"I never thought to stay here without papers. I had a visa, I traveled every few months back to the country to Slovenia to stamp the visa. I came back, I applied for the green card, I applied for the citizenship later on after many years of green card. So I went by system, I went by the law. And you should do that, you should not just say let me stay here and whatever happens, happens.”

"Yeah, but you have to admit, it's pretty obvious that he hates Mexicans."

“He said illegal immigrants. He didn’t talk about everybody. He talked about illegal immigrants. And after a few weeks, like two weeks giving him a hard time and bashing him in the media, they turned around. They said, ‘You know what, he’s right. He’s right what he’s talking about.’ And he opened conversation that nobody did.”

"But he clearly hates women, right? You saw what he did to poor innocent Megyn Kelly."

“They’re treated equal. I see him in life, he treats women the same as men. He will tell you what is in his heart, what he thinks. He will not hold it back if you’re a woman, you’re human. If you’re a woman or a man, it’s no different, you’re human."

Just imagine an American woman talking this way. I think I want her to be First Lady even more than I want him to be President.


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Title Melania Trump, Red Pill Woman
Author Chiliad2
Upvotes 833
Comments 432
Date 25 February 2016 07:03 AM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/39365
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[–] points  (113 children) | Copy

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[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev612 points613 points  (13 children) | Copy

"When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination." -- Thomas Sowell

[–]redkick72 points73 points  (7 children) | Copy

Funnily enough, I've seen feminists quoting that sentence to male beta bitches complaining about some irrelevant issue as well.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev108 points109 points  (3 children) | Copy

Feminists very often have a talent for unintentional irony.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

If we're living in a computer simulation, I'd like to think that feminists and SJWs are walking caricatures put here for us to learn from. It's like, "here are your life lessons in where things go wrong".

To protect the knowledge you could potentially gain from them, they damage you when you get close.

This concept was actually part of the reason I stopped playing video games. Why earn points in a game that means nothing when you can earn points IRL.

[–]Corndog_Enthusiast0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Do you trip man? Just an innocent question, it seems like something I'd think about while tripping or under the influence of some drug or another.

[–]CuilRunnings0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I don't believe you've ever seen a feminist quoting Thomas Sowell.

[–]Diarrhea_Van_Frank4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

One should not expect feminists to have any understanding of their sources.

[–]redkick1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Unfortunately, this was on Twitter, where sources go to die.

[–]KhazarKhaganate20 points21 points  (3 children) | Copy

I don't understand... Trump did not treat Megyn Kelly as a man.

Trump treated her to insults, lied about his answer to her question, and then admitted to lying to her in the followup.

Then later went on TV and talked about her period, claiming it was hormones. He tried several times to get Megyn fired, that's not something I would do to a man who asked me a question about what I said in the past.

I never in my life, accused a man of his hormone levels when he asks me a question about something I said in the past.

Trump hates women, there's no question. If you look up the past things he's said to women, you'll find that he almost always focuses on visual aspects of women.

When I debate a man or have an argument, I don't go... "oh yeah? Well you're fat and ugly!" But that's what he does with women all the time. But when Trump argues with a man, he doesn't do that. He treats men as equals, and he treats women as inferior.

Melenia Trump is a whore. She's been bought by Trump to live the billionaire life. Melenia is a model.

Similarly, Trump's other divorced ex-wives cleaned him out, for the highest-paid divorces.

All the people that Trump marries, are whores and sluts (models mostly), who are only in that marriage, for fame, fortune, and gifts. Trump is the ultimate beta bux.

Did he develop some better ways to argue with people through negotiations? Sure... Just as any CEO does... Just as anyone who is over the age of 60, they stop giving a shit what other people think.

A narcissist like trump? Absolutely is going to be confused for an alpha. But no, he's the ultimate beta bux.

I don't know where TRP deludes itself into thinking he's alpha. There's nothing alpha or redpill about him.

He hasn't criticized SJWs... He hasn't criticized feminists... He hasn't done anything to deserve redpill praise.

He cannot even hold frame in a debate against Jeb Bush where he loses his cool and starts ranting at the audience for booing him. He has meltdowns constantly.

He constantly goes into the frame of other candidates who attack him and starts going into long tangents defending himself and not even making any sense sometimes...

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[–]KhazarKhaganate1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

He lies, he misrepresents his viewpoints, he dodges questions

That should be the end of your comment. There's nothing to respect about him.

You can't win a primary without doing that in today's political climate,

You can, if people weren't stupid enough to fall for it. So you're right.

, this idea that he only bullies women is untrue.

I didn't say he only bullies women. I said he bullies everyone, but definitely treats women as inferior. That's all I said.

He does that shit to everyone, not just women.

He does personally attack everyone. On reddit you personally attack, you get downvoted. Yet somehow Trump does it and gets praise on reddit. It's insanity.

He definitely hates women.

He didn't say anything about Jeb or Ron Paul's hormones or talk about his testicles or the fact that he's a man (mainly because men don't usually hate men for being men).

But yes, he does see women as inferior. You cannot deny that.

Look up his historical statements on women. You'll find some things he said, that no one would ever say to a man.

[–]mormoncarebears0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Just because people here side with Trump on his political issues doesn't mean that he's not an alpha. He's definitely an alpha even as a narcissist. He's definitely sounded childish fighting back against political candidates on twitter, but did we watch the same Republican debates? There's a reason why Jeb isn't running no more.

Kanye breaks frame way too often going off on Twitter rants and yet people here still label him as Alpha. I don't see much of a difference in this case either.

[–]nuesuh113 points114 points  (60 children) | Copy

Treat a woman like a man: you hate women

Treat a woman different from a man: you're sexist

[–]cuntbh80 points81 points  (18 children) | Copy

It's a giant shit test. If you treat them the way they deserve, try will test your frame by calling you a misogynist, and if you cave, you're not a true alpha, so not good breeding material. If you treat them better than they deserve, you're BB.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (15 children) | Copy

sooo... how do you treat them? or you don't? cause I don't and it's been working out just fine.

[–]cuntbh12 points13 points  (9 children) | Copy

Mostly, I have an IDGaF attitude.
However, if I've noticed a woman for sexual reasons (ie: attractive and not sleeping with one of my friends), I'll make sure to pay attention to my interactions- kino, escalation and flirting, basic game.
If she's not someone I would sleep with (fucking a friend or ugly), I'll treat her the same as a man who brings the same amount to our social group. If she can cook, I'll eat her food and give honest feedback. If she cleans, I'll acknowledge it. If she says something actually intelligent or funny, I'll go catch the flying pig.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (8 children) | Copy

Agreed. And a whiff of pro-feminist sympathies, no matter how hot she is (lol), is grounds for the hard next and quarantine. Feminist women are walking, talking potential false rape accusations/divorce rapists. Kill this blatantly misandrist movement by refusing to breed with it.

[–]CornyHoosier7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

Met a woman recently who was doing the whine about "no good men left". She was a self-proclaimed "super feminist" and was a family divorce attorney.

Any man that dates/marries that women deserves exactly what he gets.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

For real, that's a fucking time bomb waiting to happen...

[–]MakeEmSayAyy0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Female lawyers smell...holy fuck they smell...we don't currently have a word for this.

I guess aura of stanky musty sweaty gross angry pussy would be...a description.

If we were German we'd combine it and make it into a word that'd be used quite often. Stankpustenmusken.

[–]MarvelousWhale0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Read that Maus is the German word for pussy, so how about maustankmusken.

[–]CDBaller-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think of them as walking, talking blowjob factories if the SMV differential is there.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

I like the idea of immediately next-ing a girl the moment she starts talking about feminism or says she's a feminist or whatever. It'd be interesting to see what would happen if every guy started doing that. It would sentence the batshit dedicated feminists to perpetual singledom or lesbianism but it'd probably shock the others in to dropping that shit if it meant they weren't ever going to get a decent guy.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'd actually say it's already kind of happening, and we can thank Red Pill and proto-Red Pill movements for it. Ironically, we can also thank feminism, since feminists are probably the LEAST likely of any ideology to breed.

It amazes me how the Left, including feminists, will just lay into the Christian Right for not believing in evolution... but how much better at evolution the Christian Right is. They breed. They carry on their culture and values, both through education of their offspring AND genetic replication. Feminists view their role in breeding as "oppressive" and refuse to have any part of it, preferring contraceptives and abortion.

No movement that actually, directly prevents its reproduction is long for this world.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

TBH, feminism won't die out because feminists don't have children. Feminists are created in families without any strong male figures. Ever notice how feminists are overwhelmingly girls without brothers? Seriously, I had a look through FB at every girl I know who identifies as a feminist and probably 90% of them didn't have any brothers. As long as girls are growing up in the absence of strong males in their family, they'll continue to not understand or appreciate masculinity.

[–]CornyHoosier5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I just shrug or say 'okay' and continue on with my life. Don't debate illogical people because you'll never win.

Why should I care if someone else is offended? Being "offended" at something may be the biggest waste of a person's time, as it has literally makes no impact on the world. It's like me walking into a room, announcing that I'm sad and then sitting and waiting for something to happen.

[–]ThelemaAndLouise4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

interjecting, but if a woman calls you a misogynist, just laugh. or say, sure. or correct them one single time ("i don't hate anyone, it's bad for my liver"). you can't win the argument, because your opinion is invalid as a white cis male (or whatever epithet they latch onto)

a shit test is a big wave. you're a boat, so you float on top of the wave, just don't look ridiculous while you're floating on top of the water.

[–]RedAsBlood1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Treat them like a bratty little sister.

Dont take anything they say too seriously and make fun of them in a light hearted way.

[–]UniversalFapture0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Saving for future reference. I like how this lady busted those questions real quick

[–]blacwidonsfw17 points18 points  (10 children) | Copy

I went to a bar yesterday and me and 2 friends (women) go up to the bar and each order our respective drink. Afterwards he turns and says "so all on your tab?". I was like "Uh NO". It's like he put me in a default position to be a dick. Good thing I don't give a fuck.

[–]thenemaxofredpill15 points16 points  (24 children) | Copy

Just study how Trump handles this shit test.

"Listen...I don't have time for all this PC nonsense. I'm trying to make America great again. Next question."

[–]cuntbh10 points11 points  (23 children) | Copy

I don't know his policies very well- I understand the media portrayal of them, but the more I look into it, the more I see the negative skew that the media puts on them. As a man though, I have a lot of respect for Trump- he truly doesn't give a fuck about people's opinions of him, he lets his actions speak for him, and he's doing what he believes in.

He's a fantastic politician, so it would be nice if the reporters were as good journalists as he is a politician, because then I might actually know what he stands for.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (14 children) | Copy

I mean...

...if you're a dyed in the wool progressive, you're probably not going to like what he stands for. However, even people with progressive sympathies to the less fortunate (which I think even The Donald harbors) are seeing him as a wrench in the spokes of conventional politics.

Me? I like him because he's fucking impervious to the Left's traditional character assassinations. I read an article on BuzzFeed (some "communist" radfem on my Facebook shared it, and I was feeling particularly masochistic I guess) about how Donald Trump said mean things about women's appearances! Most of the things he said were on the Howard Stern show! The horror! Muh soggy knees! /s

If anyone's ever seen Howard Stern's show, you'd know that it's about sex. And to demonize someone because they're becoming the wildly popular Republican nominee for President of the United States they were judging women on their looks (newsflash: all men do this, and will do this, forever) on a television show about sex and all manner of fuckery is nothing special, and certainly isn't anything to demonize him about.

And people, even those nominally on the Left, are wising up to these tactics... and not favorably viewing them.

[–]CornyHoosier14 points15 points  (7 children) | Copy

I'm a liberal and I'm fascinated about the guy. If Sanders loses out to Clinton I'm definitely voting for Trump.

You're right though, Leftist identity politics is really starting to wear a lot of people down. At least, it's wearing me down.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (6 children) | Copy

I am not a liberal, and am generally opposed to almost everything liberals support. That said, I can't imagine that... at least male liberals, aren't feeling a little... hmm, unwelcome in the movement nowadays. I left feminism because it was becoming quite apparent in it's hostility to masculinity.

I joined Red Pill when I read the arguments that... being, and acting like the "stereotypical male" are far from Bad™, they're unambiguously good and drive us, as an aggregate population, to do great things. So are the habits and traits of the "stereotypical female," they're catty, marry up, and manipulative... but if we're wise to those traits, we just become better people.

The world is weird.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Feminists co-opt different movements, political groups and scenes, because feminism alone can't survive. The same way that feminists have slowly been lobotomizing black people, feminists are lobotomizing the left-wing. The left used to be punk rock, it used to be about the workers taking power for themselves and so on, but feminists have taken over and reduced the left to just whinging and other bullshit.

The left has never been more feeble, it's no coincidence that this happens to be when it's no longer men leading the way. The left was founded by men, it was founded on laborers and the real working class who worked in the factories and in the mines etc. TRP and the right can talk as much as it wants about the left being about entitlement, laziness, and femininity but if you know anything about history you'd know its roots are in liberation. Women don't know anything about real hard labor, and they shouldn't have a serious place in the left because they don't really give a shit about that. The modern mainstream left (which is predominantly led and controlled by women) doesn't share the ethos of the original left, it doesn't care about labor or real community. These are just liberals who want to be edgy by pretending to be seriously left.

In Britain, the people who voted left were the people from the North and Scotland who worked themselves into the ground (literally) and the people who voted right were the Southerners with the cushy jobs. Anyone saying that the left is somehow inherently unmasculine or lazy or whatever can go fuck himself.

[–]gwankovera0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The left and the right are both important. Both have some good and bad ideas and policies. The right has focused on keeping things as they are, and any risky actions are done by the individuals. The left has focused on improving everyone life, and their risky actions are done by the government/ collective.
often times, especially recently we have been pushed into the idea of it is one or the other. That the other side is the enemy. Employers and Employees are both important, same thing with supply and demand. Unions have their places, but at the same times unions can be disastrous when they become so focused on the union members that they won't resend on some earlier agreements. :example Detroit and the auto workers union. I was watching a video talking about detroit and the union there, they get 7 weeks paid vacation a year, are paid about $45 dollars an hour, and if the company does not have work for them they have to pay them not to work. So when they were having financial trouble, the unions did the only sensible thing to do for short sighted people, nothing keep all their agreements as they are with no change. This was most likely a primary cause of bankruptcy.
Ultimately both the left (focus on employees) and the right (focus on the employers) are ignoring the center which is all the customers, which is made up of both the left and the right. As for the saying that the left is unmasculine or lazy, it is a specific faction of the left, which is like that, Neoprogressives. Check out videos by Sagon of Akkad on you tube, he has a good video talking about the cancer of the left. Ps I lean more towards the right in my political views.

[–]CornyHoosier-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

Agreed, the world is definitely weird. The growing hostility from the far left is concerning to me. It has definitely happened before though and usually Democrats get them back in line.

I see the Red Pill as separate from politics. I see human nature as an amoral action that humans naturally follow and our social structures have taken us too far from that baser nature. That said, I don't see all social manipulation of human nature as negatives; the nuclear family for instance seemed to work pretty well in America and I certainly don't mind having women working with me who have equal ability to do so.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I see human nature as an amoral action that humans naturally follow

I've always felt like big government (fascism/communism/socialism) always has to deny that there is such a thing as human nature. They are all based on the idea that if the state puts the right laws in place, that people will behave in whatever manner is legal. This has NEVER worked in all of human history.

They keep convincing themselves that it's the timing, or some external circumstances, or that the old leader wasn't glorious enough. But the idea is fundamentally flawed. Laws can modify some behavior, and push other behavior underground, but humans are gonna human.

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[–]CornyHoosier4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't confuse illogical and irate emotions for desperation, or it could be the worst mistake you ever make.

I like to think I have a pretty unique perspective as I get to sit back and watch both parties go at it as I'm not affiliated with either and have voted for both and neither. The Democrats aren't hurting any more than the Republicans are ... they rocked the Republicans in the 2008 election on every level and in 2012 still maintain the presidency and are a seat or two shy of majority in the Senate. Not to mention the fact that with the death of Justice Scalia, they're about to drop another candidate in the Supreme Court. They're clearly helping shape the country and are far from weak.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'm pretty left-wing and I quite like Trump. Don't get me wrong, I don't trust him and it's hilarious that anyone here thinks he actually gives a shit about anyone else at all or that he's at all qualified or capable of being the President, but I like how he just says whatever and doesn't really give a shit. I think a lot of people here want Trump to win because it'll somehow shut down the progressive left or something. It won't, Trump is a sign of people getting fed up with them, just let cultural change happen and eventually this shit will go away (hopefully, I don't actually know).

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It won't shut them down, and as much as I hate the seeming liberal utopia of everyone being secular humanists... I similarly hate the thought of living in some right-wing theocracy.

But the Left has gone batshit insane lately, and needs a goddamned reality check.

[–]juliusstreicher0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I hate to break your heart, but, just about anybody who can read and write is qualified to be President. The President part isn't that complicated, i.e., read the Constitution. Anything "hard" and he calls his advisers. He doesn't write speeches, he even has speechwriters on the public payroll...imagine that...if you had speechwriters, on the public payroll, do you think that you could give a good speech??????? He has every kind of advisor for every topic known to man, at his disposal, he has policymakers and people who are making him rich just for giving the nod to some of their contracts and will give him lucrative contracts when he leaves office; contracts in the 7 figures. WTFing Hell makes it hard to be a President????

[–]ThelemaAndLouise-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

(newsflash: all men do this, and will do this, forever)

and all women, perhaps even more harshly.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Agreed, I meant to include that, but couldn't figure out a way to put that in my comment in a way that I appreciated semantically... and it wasn't worth the time to figure out. But yes, women ABSOLUTELY judge based on looks, and it isn't a fucking crime when either men OR women do it.

Fuck.

Fuck the left. Fuck the right, but FUCK the left.

[–]ThelemaAndLouise0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

the right at least doesn't use you as a pawn while pretending to be your friend. they tend to take a patriarchal role, claiming they know what is best, which can somehow be addressed.

the left uses the victim classes it bandies about to control others and perpetuate their power structure, all while pretending they're trying to reform the deficient (the privileged). if you disagree, you're evil. the only definition of evil is relative to the party line.

i had a minister i'm friends with on facebook post a bullshit article from huffpo saying if you're not a racist misogynist bully asshole, don't vote for trump. wtf.

[–]waynebradysworld0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

I spend like 2 hours per day researching politics, he is the best candidate by far.

[–]CQC31 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I don't follow politics at all. Is it true that the media horribly skews what Trump's policies and beliefs to be more sensationalist?

I've never really given a fuck as to who got elected, but the idea of this whole trend of identity politics in western culture and the strictest sense of egalitarianism no matter how impractical, and the ever growing disdain for being PC seems to have a lot of people rooting for him, and more doing it discreetly I imagine.

It ironically has become the PC thing to complain and say you hate Trump and think he's ridiculous, I think that is significant.

[–]waynebradysworld1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Absolutely. There is a reason that the establishment hates on Trump, left side and right.... Its up to you to determine why

I liken it to the popular opinion of trp in a sub like AMA

[–]1james-watson-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

If you're worth a few hundred million, sure he'll cut your taxes.

Everyone else? You're still cucked by the elites forcing you to pay for their cronies to go and steal oil from the middle east, while they monopolize every industry and hike prices all in the name of MUH FREE MARKET.

It never amazes me how people can be convinced to vote against their own self interest so reliably.

I think dudes are voting for Trump just because of what he says against the fucking Cultural Marxists, and not even looking at his policies. Trump is literally running for President to reduce his own taxes. The guy is a gangster, no doubt about it, but when you're paying for him to fuck you in the ass, that makes you a cuck.

[–]waynebradysworld-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Speaking of asses, you are talking out of yours friendo

https://youtu.be/Gw8c2Cq-vpg Take an hour

[–]1james-watson-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

I didn't hear anything in that vid about tax policy, just constant sound of Moylenux's mouth overflowing with Trump's semen.

You faggot ass cucks are all the same, jumping from one man's dick to another, cause you need another man's semen in your blood to function properly.

Slurp a durp, homeboy

[–]waynebradysworld-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

You are trying hard, cuck.

Plus the video is 1.25 hours long, you've responded after what... 8 minutes?

I know cucks these days have shit attention spans but damn. Go ask mommy for double your daily Addy dosage and get back to learning. Maybe she will let you put those virgin lips on her nips after, if you are a good good boy

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy

I had someone call me a sexist the other day because I said Hillary Clinton should be held accountable for decisions made while Bill was president. Like, how is it sexist to assume that men listen to their wives? This whole sexism thing is rapidly approaching McCarthyism.

[–]nuesuh13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

I wouldn't say that is sexist, but it does seem unreasonable. Hillary should be held accountable for her decisions, not her husbands. Even if she did influence him.

[–]Diarrhea_Van_Frank-4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't think anybody would really deny that Hilldawg was the one running the show during Slick's presidency.

[–]IGoYouStayTwoAutumns1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

[–]nuesuh0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Actually is, remember seing that. pretty funny.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

Equal treatment where they want it, but they'll keep the parts where they get it better.

[–]BadinBoarder2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

"Chicks don't want everything, just the good parts of a guy's life. They look at a guy's life like it is a buffet where they can just pick and choose what they want"

-Bill Burr

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[–]PrimaxAUS7 points8 points  (13 children) | Copy

There was a study that proved this recently.

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[–]ThelemaAndLouise12 points13 points  (3 children) | Copy

didn't realize i couldn't link to np reddit. here's a direct link to the study.

/u/PrimaxAUS, i did it right this time.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

It's a student's thesis, too, not a study...

...but holy shit, the student is in college, and is a woman. A glimmer of hope springs?

[–]ThelemaAndLouise3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

yeah, i can't find the original study, but it's mentioned in the thesis.

here's the text from the reddit post:

Two studies demonstrated that lay people misperceive the relationship between hostile sexism (HS) and benevolent sexism (BS) in men, but not in women. While men's endorsement of BS is viewed as a sign of a univalently positive attitude towards women, their rejection of BS is perceived as a sign of univalent sexist antipathy. Low BS men were judged as more hostile towards women than high BS men, suggesting that perceivers inferred that low BS men were indeed misogynists. Negative evaluations were reduced when men's rejection of BS was attributed to egalitarian values, supporting the hypothesis that ambiguity about the motivations for low BS in men was partially responsible for the attribution of hostile sexist attitudes to low BS men.

EDIT: and who knows if this is hopeful or not.

[–]PrimaxAUS12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

Just as meaningless as any other. I'm on mobile but I'll find it later.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Tl;dr people believe in 'benevolent sexism'. Treat women equal until it's negative, then give her preferential treatment (ie Chivalry).

[–]BadinBoarder-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ridiculous, treat them nice, you're a sexist that looks down on women. Treat them normal, you're a rude asshole who doesn't know how to treat a lady.

This is why chivalry is dead

[–]JihadDerp1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just go out in the real world and try it. Report back.

[–]Incangodess-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

Dont bother linking it or anything

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Crazy, I literally went to type those exact words when I finished reading. Great minds think alike lol.

[–]ThelemaAndLouise0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

it's been my whole life, and i'm over 30.

[–]IronMeltsinmyHands0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

But treating women differently than you treat men is also going to get you branded as a misogynist.

[–]sirmadam0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy

I am now back on a probationary period partly because I treat the only other woman in the company the same way I treat the men. It's such bullshit.

[–]Diarrhea_Van_Frank1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

You have to play by office politics when you're in the workplace. That's just how it goes.

[–]masnera0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Very true...very very true. And consider your office mates to be fickle..man or woman alike.

[–]sirmadam0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I just need to decide how long to stick it out for. Currently saving 85% of my salary ready to start my own business.

[–]1rporion0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Do it.

I am not gonna lie, there might be some nights in your future when you cannot sleep because you gotta pay rent, or wages or whatnot and your customers will, mostly, pay eventually but your expenses are due NOW and so further and so on, but God, at least, you can keep the BS in your life to a minimum.

[–]sirmadam-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's going to happen. I just need to decide if it happens in 3 months or 6. That decision could get made for me. But the ideal is my boss tells me he wants to keep me on in 6 months and I hand him my notice with a shit eating grin.

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It is misogynistic to treat women like men. Men are treated like shit.

[–]BadinBoarder0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yep, it's why i had to get off Facebook. Too many ppl defending women at any cost. I wouldn't even say anything about women, but they would bring up women and say i was disrespecting them.

The irony is they would say women are equal and don't need to be protected by men, but then they would defend them and bash me. Such glorious White Knights.

[–]RedSugarPill-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

These days are almost over.

[–]1PrinceofSpades-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

We at TRP should be thankful for feminism; it made the line between alpha and beta role all the more clear. Sure, we dislike 3rd wave feminism and the chicks yelling out shit like "kill all the men!" But the average woman hates those people too. Equality is great for us; unfortunately, the laws don't operate that way and give huge favor swings to women, and I think that's what we really hate and are often the most pissed off about.

If you want equality, don't be afraid to take on all the responsibility that comes with it.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana356 points357 points  (94 children) | Copy

"I never thought to stay here without papers. I had a visa, I traveled every few months back to the country to Slovenia to stamp the visa. I came back, I applied for the green card, I applied for the citizenship later on after many years of green card. So I went by system, I went by the law. And you should do that, you should not just say let me stay here and whatever happens, happens.”

Some of the biggest critics of illegal immigrants are legal immigrants.

[–]Alpacash287 points288 points  (79 children) | Copy

Because it's unfair. Imagine you move to another country, do all the paperwork, pay taxes and wait for the citizenship then a bunch of freeloaders cross the border illegally and demand the same rights you have.

[–]CQC3104 points105 points  (53 children) | Copy

That's true. Not to mention it's typically a different mentality. A lot of people who come here illegally simply just don't give a fuck to even adapt to the culture or even learn the language. Especially in places with high concentrations of a particular type of minority, they can just go on and...just not know fucking anything. They'll just pretend their city is like mini-wherever the fuck they came from.

And you've got all these dumb fucks crying about how you need to let everyone in and how America was founded on immigrants and we're better than that, bitch what the fuck? Do you even know how this shit works? I don't. But I sure as shit know that letting an unmitigated flow of illegals who don't give a shit about the nice thing ya got goin on here and just want a piece, won't contribute, and that's probably not going to be good for you.

But hey, I do see some other sides of it. I'm sure some guy out there is just looking out for his family and lives in some shit country that's got real, actual problems, and he's just doing whatever he can to survive. If that means getting here illegally, being unethical is better than letting your family starve or die.

[–]TuesdayRB51 points52 points  (28 children) | Copy

America was founded on immigrants

What they don't mention is that those immigrants were treated like crap. A century ago, when some guy from Ireland or China immigrated, they were strongly incentivized to stop being Irish or Chinese and start being American.

Hazing, which is basically what used to happen on a national level, often serves a legitimate purpose. It strengthens group cohesion and reinforces the dominant group culture.

[–]bluedrygrass5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Back then, immigrants were kept in quarantine for 40 days. We're talking about Italian migrants and the likes. Imagine even suggesting quarantining today's immigrants

[–]TuesdayRB8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Today, we can't even quarantine people who pose a risk of bringing Ebola into the country. The US and Europe has forgotten the most basic lessons of civilization.

Not every country, though.

[–]maxio9915 points16 points  (14 children) | Copy

It strengthens group cohesion and reinforces the dominant group culture.

No it doesn't . For someone who was born in Europe and live in many european countries I can tell you what it does it's assimilate whole groups of peoples for generations . Do you know why in Europe there is constant threat of terrorist attacks and it is usually done by not someone who just arrived but someone who was born there ? Because they cannot assimilate with rest of the society . Doesn't matter how much you try . Thats why there are Turkish "ghettos" Germany , African in France .

[–]1kick633 points34 points  (2 children) | Copy

It depends on the disparity between the host culture and the origin culture. That's REALLY what puts the lie to "America was founded on immigrants." America was founded on christian, western european immigrants who were similar enough in culture that they could assimilate.

The current crop of immigrants...not so much. The situation in Europe with the recent influx of savages is far worse, too.

[–]bluedrygrass5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

And it comes out, only white immigrants assimilate well with white culture and people

[–]alpha_n3rd2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

well if it's anything like the USA eventually those neighborhoods will gentrify and disappear.

[–]1rporion1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good luck gentrifying a "Plattenbau" or the "banlieus".

[–]TuesdayRB0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm not sure what you mean. In Europe, people were allowed to immigrate but not assimilate. The anti-immigrant hazing that I mention didn't happen, and multiculturalism was tried instead.

The chaos and violence Europe is seeing now is the inevitable result of that strategy.

[–]Sdom10 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

Look, socialists tend to be stupid. If they were smart, they wouldn't have to rig the game. The Europeans thought they could just be like the USA without acknowledging the fundamental ways the US is different from Europe as well as some uncomfortable points about mixing cultures and races; namely that it can be done, but who you're forcing to live together matters.

Islam has an unbroken history of subjugating and destroying the cultures unfortunate enough to border it. The ONLY reason that has stopped lately is because they ran into opponents too strong to conquer. But things change, and they do seize opportunities. And they never give back ground. Hell, look at the trouble they've caused over the Jews taking back a tiny patch of the land they've stolen over the centuries.

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What are you even basing this on? any socialist worth their salt has shaped economics and politics since Marx. Schumpeter/drucker, do your research. You wouldn't have a modern democracy in this day and age without socialists. Also, Palestine has long been a recognised state before Israel so how can you steal that which already belongs to you?

[–]Diarrhea_Van_Frank0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Israel definitely existed before Palestine by millenia.

[–]Stron230 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Are you daft? Do a quick Google search and educate yourself. The bible brought the Jews and Israel to where it is now. It was known as Palestine before the Jews inhabited it.

[–]Sdom10 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Also, Palestine has long been a recognised state before Israel so how can you steal that which already belongs to you?

Oh, so Palestine was always historically Muslim? So I guess the Jews just picked a random plot of land to settle.

[–]Stron230 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

No but it was certainly populated by Arabs before the Jews occupied the land.

[–]Sdom11 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

And who was there before? Who did the Arabs take the land from in the first place?

[–]Phoenix_2015-5 points-4 points  (10 children) | Copy

That's not what hazing is. What you're talking about is xenophobia and racism.

Besides a lot of these immigrants are coming from places with a much more red pill culture than modern US culture. I can see why a lot of them would be slow to assimilate.

[–]TuesdayRB0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy

It served the function of hazing, and was a successful method of resisting the poison of multiculturalism.

The racism and discrimination that nearly every immigrant experienced in the 1800s and early 1900s was successful at convincing them to abandon their old cultural identity.

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My dad when he bankrupted in Brazil knew he was going to the u.s.

When we got there he lived as far as he could from other Brazilians refused to get international cable and we played with only American kids. In 6 months my brothers and I spoke English, I really should say understood our accents were awful. The other kids from Latin america hated us because the only kid that was close to our English was the Korean kid. There was also the fact we are white and blond so we were accepted by the kids as one of them. I think the Brazilian kid closest to our age only had a decent English 3 years after getting here. I'm not going to lie I had a terrible accent those first 2 years but it faded.

I remember my brother and I watching u.s. television with a dictionary looking up words we didn't know. When our English really took off we stopped using English to Portuguese and only used English dictionaries. Thankfully 15 years later we are lawful residents but it was a tough battle because a lot of illegals refuse to adopt the culture and language and they don't deserve it.

Hell 7 out of 10 illegal immigrants want to make money and go back home, not stay

My desire is see the u.s. stop illegal immigration and allow more legal immigrants yearly. If it wasn't for illegal the u.s. could give much more than 100k green cards a year

[–]Sdom19 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

Hell 7 out of 10 illegal immigrants want to make money and go back home, not stay

Yes, which is why it's hilarious when politicians say illegals will never self-deport. They already have by the millions several times. You cut off the money, and there's no reason to stay.

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The problem is they get greedy they start with I'm going to save money for a year and buy a house and go back. Then they want to get a rental property, then they want to have the same comfort they enjoy in the u.s. so the more time they spend here the more ambitious they become.

I'm not trying to brag but my family was in the 1% of Brazil so when we bankrupted my dad was ready to leave Brazil and call the u.s. home and my mom with him. Other immigrants wanted to take advantage of the prosperity of the u.s. temporarily but after years here they realize they won't have the same quality of life there nor be able to keep their profession with the same revenue so they push it back.

They were never invested to immigrate they only wanted to take advantage of the economic disparity between both countries mostly the dollar stability

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Do you even know how this shit works?

You know what infuriates me more than anything? The Left stacks universities and media institutions and public schools with nothing but their ilk. They'll whip out Marxist class criticisms and just lay into how "our culture" promotes this or that Bad™ thing...

...but the minute the Right starts talking about the importance of culture in society, they freak out about it. The Left wants our culture to be absolutely libertine and absolutely cooperative, and that's bullshit. I'm a Libertarian through and through, but if your "lifestyle choice" ends up being "I'm going to do shit-tons of drugs and have unprotected sex with anything that moves and then depend on the rest of you to keep me fed, housed, and comfortable" no, fuck you, I reserve the right to shame you as the degenerate anchor on social advancement that you are!

Oh but then I'm being mean, and the Left isn't mean. Except to those filthy conservatives, who argue that the family unit is important to maintain the integrity of the fabric of society, who argue that merit and hard work should be judged positively, who argue that humans inherently possess and deserve the freedom to make their own choices. To say I've departed from the Left is a gross understatement, it's legitimately difficult for me to take people who espouse left-wing politics seriously anymore. These people fucking believe in a fairy tale, a reality that simply does not exist.

To think we can have these lavish social programs while requiring no "skin in the game" is fucking the dumbest idea I have ever fucking heard. To hear these morons legitimately argue that "we're obligated" to let people from a region of the world that has harbored unrepentant, violent, medieval and religiously-motivated hatred for us is goddamned infuriating.

We've built this world-class culture, a society that still, today, in it's obvious and inexorable decline (squarely because of leftist bullshit) remains the envy of the world... and we're supposed to just give it to these people? Good fucking God, no! It took blood, sweat, and tears to build this! It TAKES blood, sweat, and tears to maintain it!

You get to bleed, to sweat, and to cry to be a part of it! I don't think that's asking much!

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[–]WaxSimulacra1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

It benefits you to assimilate the culture. No one is saying you have to forget your heritage but you're here to better your life else you would have stayed where you were.

[–]Sdom10 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

It's not beyond your understanding, you just have to understand that politics are motivated by simple, venal desires - namely, power and resources. That's it. Everything else is rationalization and justification.

[–]marplaneit7 points8 points  (10 children) | Copy

The thing is people starving in africa, don't have the money to go to US to work. It also has to do with culture, as my parens were legal inmigrants doing their PhDs in US and having some inmigrants a Friends I call tell you the thruth.

The grand mayority of legal inmigrant add value to US, but your tipical mexican are shitting US. Parents don't have power over their american kids, cause they are illegal, they get ass raped if they apply discipline to them. Add to that, they only hang around among them, and they are punk as hell. (I've living in argentina now for more than a decade, and I Laugh my ass off to wannabe gangster in US, bitch pls your 110 pounds mexican ass wouldn't survive a month here with that actitude)

I did 1 year of hich school in US, and these kids thought it was tough to break a car's window or smoke marihuana... lol WTF? Try to break someone's window in Argentina, you will get your ass beaten fucking hard.

[–]AgisIII1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Argentinian here. Where do you live?

[–]CornyHoosier1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

I did 1 year of hich school in US, and these kids thought it was tough to break a car's window or smoke marihuana... lol WTF? Try to break someone's window in Argentina, you will get your ass beaten fucking hard.

America is pretty diverse. Sounds like you went to a tame high school. Hell, my high school was full of country rednecks, but you'd get your ass whooped wholesale if you fucked with another students truck.

I remember the vice principle would "accidentally" inform a student that the police were coming by to check for weapons and drugs, and then word would get around. Almost every male student had a shotgun or rifle in his vehicle so they would have had to arrest most of the student body.

[–]marplaneit1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

I have a question.

How can the 90% of the student body carry weapons safely? I mean, i'm pretty sure there would be a shooting at least once a year...

16's full of hormones trying to look badass for every single teen whore, and with shotguns. I mean any regular teen fist fight, could easily escalate up to a shooting.

[–]Bonersaucey4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Because 90% of the student body has a shotgun and nobody wants a fucking massacre.

[–]CornyHoosier0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

The mentality in small towns are different than large cities.

To this day I vividly remember going camping in the woods of Missouri with a couple buddies around 3rd or 4th grade and we all had our camping gear, machetes (because you didn't need a license for them) and bb/pellet guns. By 5th grade all of us had shotgun and 9mm and up experience. (Also, in Boy Scouts in 5th grade we also went to a weekend long shot gun camp. It was awesome) Then in the state of Missouri, all the 6th grade boys could take the gun safety class (which we all did) and then could own higher caliber weapons besides a bb-gun.

By the time we were able to drive our own trucks to school, all of us had shot weaponry for years and had gun safety pounded into our brains. We all knew each other, we all liked each other and we all knew each others families.

[–]marplaneit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Okay, now I get it small town US, with homogenous race, culture and religion. Yes, far different from where I've been in US (North-west)

[–]juliusstreicher0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So, it looks like hormones aren't even to blame for the shootings. Perhaps whore mothers who ran off Dad?

[–]rrealnigga0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I lost track of what you were trying you say

[–]slimcoat1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

America was founded on immigrants

I always point out that America was founded by colonists, which is quite different. Takes a whole lot more guts to sail across an ocean in a wooden ship to a land that nobody knows much about.

[–]boatdrinks0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I agree with your point and I'll take the opportunity to suggest to all red pillers to never agree with the statement that America was found by immigrants. No, it wasn't. America was founded by settlers. There is a difference and it refutes their argument to allow anyone to come into the country.

[–]B_uckets8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly. The process is insanely stressful, time-consuming and expensive if you're just trying to immigrate legally on your own (not via marriage). It's also downright idiotic who they choose to accept and deny.

I have a friend who's a well-educated, gifted pianist (Masters + Ph.D. in piano performance from U.S. universities, plays recitals all over the world, performs with well-known orchestras, etc.) and she still can't even get a green card. The U.S. should be begging people like her to come here, but instead she's still trying to save up the $10,000+ a good immigration lawyer will cost.

[–]_Madison_1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Add to that giving illegals citizenship will encourage a much bigger second wave over the border so the problem won't even be solved having an amnesty.

[–]alpha_n3rd2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy

The freeloaders are the employers that hire them and don't withhold taxes. And frankly all of us who like cheap lettuce.

If we just enforced the existing employment law; hire illegals, go to jail; there wouldn't be any jobs for illegals, they wouldn't come, and nobody would be talking about a fucking wall.

[–]LoneStarG840 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

And frankly all of us who like cheap lettuce.

Only 3-4% of illegals work in farming. Like the "wage gap", this is a tired old myth that needs to die.

[–]alpha_n3rd1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

You missed the point. Their industry is irrelevent. I used farming as an example.

The point is that people like to hire illegals as cheap unregulated labor and the government is complicit in that it has defacto legalized the practice by not enforcing the employment laws we already have on the books.

If you remove the market for cheap unregulated labor, by enforcing the laws, by throwing violators in jail, the illegals will have no reason to come or stay because there won't be anymore jobs for them.

Of course this would cause a slight rise in consumer prices, and a slight drop in corporate profits, which is why it hasn't happened and instead everybody talks about a god damned stupid wall.

Of course it would be offset by a rise in consumer earnings, due to better employment and higher wages, and in the end it would be better for most Americans.

I look forward to the circus when trump builds his wall and the mexicans keep coming. At least it won't be boring.

[–]LoneStarG842 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

I agree with almost all of that, and I'm not suggesting you think all illegals pick lettuce. But many people use that argument: "Well if we get rid of illegals, there won't be anybody to pick lettuce!", and that's such a red herring and pisses me off. They're basically admitting they're in favor of a permanent cheap labor "underclass" in the USA.

Maybe the wall works, maybe it doesn't. But I don't think that's the only facet of a potential President Trump's immigration policy.

[–]alpha_n3rd2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

They're basically admitting they're in favor of a permanent cheap labor "underclass" in the USA

totally agree, that's what I'm saying. The wall is the real red herring.

what does trump say about H1Bs? Because anybody who supports the H1B program as it stands today can eat my shit. That's one of my favorite things about Bernie. He's pretty much the only candidate who doesn't want to give my job away to an underpaid Indian.

*Update: Trump is actually against the H1B program; shit I might have to reconsider my vote.

[–]doublereignbeau0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Bernie will help by raising taxes on companies, which drives them to outsource to India.

[–]alpha_n3rd0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

haahhahahaah have you seen the quality of work the Indians do? That's the joke of it all, they're fucking incompetent. it's a race to the bottom.

[–]doublereignbeau0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I've only ever hired Americans, so between autists, sjws, and pot heads, I don't see how Indian could be worse.

[–]juliusstreicher0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yep, and, on top of that, YOU pay all of their expenses!

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[–]Sdom11 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy

You give us work, you give us ITINs, you allow us to rent using the ITIN, you won't allow us to buy though! You'll also not allow us to start a business. You make damn sure we pay our taxes but you do not give us any benefits the rest of the tax payers get.

BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO FUCKING BE HERE!!!! You do not have the right to live wherever the fuck you want. The fact is that the only reason you can get an ITIN is because corrupt business interests have bribed the government into this compromise. And really what they have done is to load part of their wage cost onto the taxpayer who then borrows that money, so believe me, I agree with you that it's shitty and exploitative and needs to stop. But that doesn't mean we just confer citizenship upon people whose first act in this country was a form of fraud. That means they're going home.

And one anecdote doesn't mean most illegals don't get free health care. They do. Or they go to a surgical center like the one in Oklahoma and pay a reasonable amount of cash. If you weren't smart enough to exploit that, that's on you.

As for the taxes, let's just say I had a job where I dealt with a lot of illegals, and many if not most work under the table for cash.

And yes, using a stolen or borrowed social security number is a felony. IT'S FUCKING FRAUD! I.e. profit by deception. I would be charged with a felony for that as well. Though of course your first act was to be here without permission, so it seems this might just be a blind spot.

And let's face another fact - you can buy property, you just can't take out a mortgage. Again, because you're not supposed to be here.

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[–]Sdom1-3 points-2 points  (8 children) | Copy

Bible belt? Nope. And if you bothered to read what I wrote, I agree that the current system is exploitative and set up for the benefit of a privileged few, and the illegals. For all you bitch about them being exploited, it must be better than whatever alternative they have, or they wouldn't be here. Therefore they benefit. Plus their kids get to steal a citizenship and then they bring their family over. So yeah, it's a huge benefit.

Here's the problem with your analysis; most people don't benefit. Are prices lower on some things? Sure. But the public resources consumed by illegals and their children far, far outweigh any taxes or economic benefit, but people don't realize that because the government is paying for it with borrowed money.

It's like living on credit cards and thinking everything is great. Sure it is, right now at least.

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[–]Sdom10 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

Why else would you know about some surgery clinic in Oklahoma?

Think about your reasoning:

  1. Premise: There is a surgical center in Oklahoma

  2. Premise: Oklahoma is in the Bible Belt

  3. Premise: Sdom1 knows about this surgical center

  4. Conclusion: Therefore, sdom1 lives somewhere in the Bible Belt

Hats off to your logic, and by logic I mean the fact that you're a retard. The Surgical Center of Oklahoma was the first and most famous example of so-called free market medicine, which just means that they don't treat people who can't pay, which keeps their prices to about 20% of what you'd pay at a hospital, with the same surgeons operating on you. See, when you claim illegals can't get free health care, I know you're either stupid or lying because we have this little law called EMTALA, which specifically forbids hospitals from turning away patients for inability to pay, especially in the ER. That's why ERs in the US often look like a train station in Michoacan.

Now, let's get to the rest of your incredibly weak arguments.

They pay taxes just like you. They do not qualify for benefits.

Not even remotely true. First, the taxes they pay, about 11.2B at state and local levels, pales in comparison to the cost of their benefits, including educating their children, government assistance, medical care, and incarceration of illegal alien criminals. That's estimated at over $100B/yr. That's not a good deal. And yes, they receive a lot of benefits. Because of welfare fraud (lots of illegals use forged documents and stolen SSNs, remember?) and the fact that their kids are citizens, they utilize welfare at much higher rates than natives.

What boat did your ancestors come on?

Ok, try really hard to understand this. Some of my ancestors were colonials. The others came with the consent of the people already here, and there was no welfare. ZERO. My ancestors not only helped build this country, but they fought, bled and died in multiple wars for the United States. To this day I have relatives serving in the armed forces. And nobody in my family has ever used public assistance, other than social security.

But hey, you came here illegally and then committed fraud by marrying a citizen to get your papers, that's just as good. Oh, and how do I know you committed fraud? Because if you're here illegally, you can't just marry someone for your papers. You have to go back to your country for what, 10 years first?

So if your story is true, that means you came in illegally (no visa overstay) and then had to sneak back out again while the paperwork was being processed.

...your women didn't like foreigner dick so much hahah

Oh, believe me, brown chicks, especially immigrants, will jump on white dick faster than you could blink. There was a stretch in my life where I focused specifically on brown pussy for some variety.

White guys are the high status men in this country, remember?

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[–]Sdom10 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

EMTALA does not mean free health care. Also, "especially in the ER" shows me how little you know of it. ONLY IN THE ER! It stands for Emergency Medical Treatment... ALA.

EMTALA is only one piece of what I was talking about, but is widely credited with driving the "free rider problem" in hospitals. Illegals also soak up a lot of money in other government provided and charity care. Further, 11 million is most likely far short of the number of illegals we actually have. The last time the USA did an amnesty, the number of people here were found to be more than double the projections. An investment bank did some research on the remittance levels and said the level is probably over 20 million, which makes sense in light of that historical trend. And finally, you have to figure that without them being here illegally, the children they had wouldn't be here legally, right? Start adding in the costs of educating and caring for them.

I am not sure how you think it makes sense that desperately poor, uneducated people aren't soaking up a lot of social services and welfare.

For whatever reason the reports will not specify how many are illegal..

It's a mystery!

knowing out of all immigrants only about a third are undocumented (illegal), do you find it appropiate to use the number 33,000 to work with?

No. Let's stop these little back of the napkin calculations and bring in some data from the feds:

While illegal immigrants account for about 3.5 percent of the U.S population, they represented 36.7 percent of federal sentences in FY 2014 following criminal convictions... illegal immigrants accounted for 27,505 (or 36.7 percent), legal immigrants made up 3,017 (or 4.0 percent)

Well, well, what do you know. Illegal immigrants are committing federal crimes at many times the rates of natives OR legal immigrants. Using your 33% number, why, that's like 20 times the rate of a legal immigrant. And that 27k is just in federal prison. I'll bet there are more than 10k in prisons in AZ alone, let alone CA, IL, etc.

Totally illogical, right? Who would have thought that people who are proven lawbreakers would commit more crimes than the people who busted their ass, played by the rules, and waited for years to come here?

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Because legal ones pay their dues while illegal ones take advantage of the system.

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I live in Los Angeles and I'm Mexican. About 50% of my family are illegal immigrants. They all talk shit about America and anyone who doesn't speak Spanish, they all sing the praises of Mexico but refuse to live there. When asked if any one else should be "allowed in," like Chinese or Syrians, they will say no way, "because they are not immigrants like us."

My family is a bunch of racist fucks who should be beaten with a stick. Even I say send them back.

[–]a_chill_bro7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

As a legal immigrant and now U.S. citizen I will vouch for that. Migrating legally requires work. Paperwork, paying fees and a lot of waiting. I personally have no sympathy for someone who has cheated and broken the law. You want to get into America? Start by following its fucking laws.

[–]blacwidonsfw3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

My parents migrated legally after being on a wait list for like 15 years. My dad is a hardcore republican and whenever anyone gives him shit he's like "I did it the right way so they should too". Absolutely correct.

[–]B_Campbell2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah. I'm sure she's had the same experience and treatment as all the other immigrants.

[–]bnine_1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly this. Went through that process of paperwork to study in European country, waited for 5 months for visa. Not to say i had to pay for my studies and everything thus investing into country's economy. After all that i got treated worse than a refuge by the government.

[–]420ftwin1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

They are. And they are right. Just ask any international student who comes to US to study. Despite doing well, getting a job in a major corporation and showing the potential to contribute to the US economy (and not just leeching off welfare money), they still have to wait for H1B visa which is like bloody lottery system.

[–]alphabeta491 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Its the same reason I have a hard time not blowing a gasket when someone changes lanes without signaling first.

[–]rrealnigga1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yupp, because they tarnish the image of ALL immigrants and because you don't want the same shit you escaped from to follow you to your new place.

[–]godiebiel1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

And this is why Trump wins even among latinos.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Some of the biggest critics of illegal immigrants are legal immigrants.

And the rest of them are rednecks who watch too much Fox News.

[–]ObservantOmega140 points141 points  (0 children) | Copy

Compared to Bill, yeah she'll be the better choice for the first lady.

[–]1kick6107 points108 points  (23 children) | Copy

the more important thing to note is what passes as journalism these days. That wasn't supposed to be an interview, it was supposed to be a crucifixion.

[–]alpha_n3rd33 points34 points  (17 children) | Copy

Or it was carefully crafted to make it LOOK like she was SUPPOSED to be crucified and instead came out on top.

[–]1kick68 points9 points  (16 children) | Copy

fair point. Considering it wasn't fox, I doubt it.

[–]Carpeaux27 points28 points  (3 children) | Copy

You're a little behind the times. FOX is together with the Republican Establishment, and Trump is their greatest enemy.

Look at this: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/431858/donald-trump-2016-campaign-must-be-stopped

Read the comments. Republicans want Trump, but the Republican Party wants anything but, and their lackies are working overtime to try and change the tide.

[–]1kick60 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Fair, but Fox is more likely to give Mrs. Trump a pass than, say, CNN.

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I disagree. People hate those who are most similar to them.

That's why Bernie and Hillary have faced much more aggressive attacks from BLM protestors.

It's why Fox, the "establishment," and National Review has crucified Trump for months.

And when it comes to rape accusations, it's why Betas get many more false rape charges than Alphas.

[–]docbloodmoney0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

6 million of one, half a dozen million of the other. They are both run by america-hating jews

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Mika Brzezinski, the interviewer works for MSNBC but Trump supporters love her because she's one of the few who analyzes Trump's positions objectively. She has received attacks from liberal media for this, claiming she's pals with Trump. If true, the comment you replied to could be right.

[–]Opanion1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fun fact, she is Zbigniew's daughter

[–]alpha_n3rd0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy

Alternatively maybe they didn't want to be seen going easier on her. Colbert always asks Bernie tough questions.

[–]1kick60 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy

A comedian asks tough questions?

[–]alpha_n3rd0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

Considering it's supposedly friendly turf, yeah. He puts Bernie on the spot. "Isn't that class warfare?" comes to mind. Videos are probably online if you want to see for yourself.

[–]1kick60 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Might have to check that out.

[–]alpha_n3rd0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

don't get me wrong, bernie comes back with stuff you've heard before if you've ever listened to him much, but still it's sort of a needling question I think, hits him where it hurts sort of

[–]i_forget_my_userids0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

If you think the questions are not mutually prepared and discussed beforehand, you're a fool.

[–]alpha_n3rd0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Bernie doesn't prepare for shit. He doesn't need to. He's been saying the same thing for decades.

[–]i_forget_my_userids0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Bernie doesn't prepare for shit

Ridiculous that you actually believe this.

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I disagree. Mica is a democrat, but she's been highly supportive of Trump, to the degree that both her and Joe have faced heavy criticism for "preferential treatment."

Both Mica and Joe strive for "tough but fair." If this was a hit job, she wouldn't have given Melania so much time to respond to each question.

When you ask someone hard questions, but give them time to respond, you steal the wind out of those questions. Now no one can say that Mica hasn't asked the hard questions, and no one can say that Melania hasn't answered them.

Tl;DR Compared to the rest of the media, Joe and Mica give the most balanced American television journalism in the country.

[–]noobforlife1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Naw Mika likes the Trumps. Melania knew the questions were coming beforehand and Mika has to pander to not look like shes favoring them. If you watch Morning Joe they predicted Trump's success months before while everyone was still laughing.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy

the more important thing to note is what passes as journalism these days. That wasn't supposed to be an interview, it was supposed to be a crucifixion.

That's what journalism SHOULD be. They should ask hard questions. The media is treating Trump too softly because they like him.

[–]1kick61 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

uwot? The media likes Trump? The media HATES Trump. The people like Trump.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo-4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lord, how naive you are. The only reason the "people" supposedly like Trump is because the media keeps shoving Trump down their throats. If the media hated Trump nobody would even know who he was. The media can make people disappear from the national consciousness but they have chosen to not do that with Trump. I can't believe anybody would be so naive as to buy Trump's bullshit "boo hoo hoo" the media hates me bullshit. I mean, the fucking media gave him his own TV show that lasted 8 seasons!!!

Remember when Trump said he wouldn't do the Fox interview and he was going to have his own campaign event in Iowa instead? And remember when CNN covered it and made it a special? CNN gave Trump a free hour and a half fucking commercial for his campaign. That's crazy. The media loves him because he is crazy, entertaining, a narcissist and easily controlled.

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[–]-TempestofChaos-20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's only sexist if others do it.

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Granted it is a really, really fucking weird picture.

Not that it would stop people from finding ways to attack their relationship however even if it looked flawless.

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I fail to see what a woman's opinion on illegal immigrants has anything to do with TRP, even if said women was married to Donald Trump.

Guess who else parroted the opinions of her husband, during the election even the midst a sex scandal? Hillary Rodham Clinton.

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You do know I'm talking about his 1992 for president where he was accused of bedding one Gennifer Flowers, not his re-election right? Hillary went on TV with Bill and defended against those allegations.

[–]larrythetomato2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I fail to see what a woman's opinion on illegal immigrants has anything to do with TRP, even if said women was married to Donald Trump.

Assuming what you said is literal (over the internet I can't tell whether this is a sarcastic jest). Read this article. The gist of it is that arguments in the public arena are based off absolute morality, and relative truth (as opposed to relative morality and absolute truth). Thus the goal of an argument is to find any single character flaw in the opponent. If you can, since morality is absolute, you are able to dismiss all the arguments of that person as evil (if you have any character flaw, you are evil and everything you say is false).

This is why you will notice that the Mainstream Media is all about jumping around trying to discredit your opponent (instead of trying to actually figure out what happened).

And as a bonus, this is why the SJW crowd is all about calling the opposition racist/sexist/misogynistic/hypocritical/rapist. Once you can discredit the opponent you win. Ironically when they claim you raped someone and you reply "I can't because I was literally in a different country". You don't actually win because you proved the fact that it didn't happen. You won because you showed that the other person is a liar, and liars are evil, therefore everything they say is dismissed. The truth of the matter is not important.

[–]Clarkelol15 points16 points  (22 children) | Copy

I don't see what I'm meant to be looking at here?

[–]1EarthExile19 points20 points  (20 children) | Copy

The idea is that Trump's wife is loyal and speaks straight to the point, while apparently not indulging in any excuses or games. "This is what it is. This is what I think. These are the facts."

[–]CaCacanada0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

What else was she going to say in this situation?

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy

Bullshit and fluff? Like 98% of the media?

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It's more so how well she sticks with her husband. The idea of a redpill woman is essentially one who sticks by you through thick and thin and respects the things you do and say. She supports him fully and does nothing but raise Trump. This is a deep contrast to the majority of women we meet in the West today, which is the point of this post.

Having her as a first lady could greatly benefit the country

[–]ChadThundercockII0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Have you heard of the Seth Rogen fiasco with Return of Kings writer Mike Cernovich ? Check it out and you'll will understand.

[–]Clarkelol-9 points-8 points  (13 children) | Copy

All she is doing is answering these questions with facts. I didn't realise objective truths = being a red piller.

[–]1dongpal26 points27 points  (7 children) | Copy

you see how low the standards for women are?

[–]1kick63 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Considering everyone else is more worried about consensus and feelz, objective truth kinda is being a red piller.

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Agreed. Nothing Red Pill about this shit. Now that the community is growing, I suspect there are some paid promotional activities taking place here. Like "New movie XYZ promotes the carousel". There have been many before and there will be many after. Who fucking cares.

[–]ModRedSovereign[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Promotions are explicitly prohibited in this sub, barring the few from established members of the community. If you see any signs of this use the Report feature. Thanks.

[–]Sementeries0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

who fucking cares

Apparently you do if you took the time to not only read it, but comment on it aswell.

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Like "New movie XYZ promotes the carousel". There have been many before and there will be many after. Who fucking cares.

Not sure if trolling but I'm not on the movie thread.

[–]KhazarKhaganate0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Nothing just more circlejerking from more conservative retarded TRPers who have failed to actually understand what TRP concepts and principles are.

They think beta bux trump is RP... It's hilarious.

[–]juanlee3379 points10 points  (20 children) | Copy

i failed to see the point of this post..

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo3 points4 points  (19 children) | Copy

There are a lot of morons on this site that get easily fooled into thinking that certain people are "alpha." Donald Trump is not alpha. He is a media creation who has actually failed pretty badly in his business life. The media found a narcissistic douchebag that is mentally unstable and entertaining and they made him famous for the same reason they made Kim Kardashian famous.

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I still dont see your point. what your definition of success? This guy is worth at least 1 billion dollars with 3 corporate bankruptcies, in which he played the system so his personal wealth didn't get touched during asset forfeiture. You may think he is stupid but they fact that he had investors invest few billion dollar on his idea without having to leverage much of his wealth is fucking genius. I can't even get 10 bucks from my family. shit please.. Sure he may not be alpha.. but he damn sure ain't stupid as you make it seem

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

This guy is worth at least 1 billion dollars with 3 corporate bankruptcies, in which he played the system so his personal wealth didn't get touched during asset forfeiture.

I don't believe he has 1 billion dollars. Also a lot of his businesses have been scams to take money from investors who are impressed with the Trump name. I actually worked on a case involving investors suing the Trump organization (which was not connected to Donald Trump except in name) for being scammed out of their money. I'm impressed with Trump's wealth the same way I am impressed with Kim Kardashian's wealth.

[–]noobforlife0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah like some of the mods and ECs, total bluepills. A lot of the mods and ECs for TRP are also mods on the_donald sub. Rollo Tomassi is a Trump supporter. Chateau Heartiste is obviously pro Trump.

You've learned nothing from TRP if you honestly think this way.

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[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo0 points1 point  (12 children) | Copy

He's probably not a billionaire. There is no evidence he has as much money as he says he does. he doesn't own any of those buildings and he has gone bankrupt many times in his life.

I actually worked as a lawyer one one of Trump's projects. He is just a name that organizations use to sell their product.

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He makes of lot of his money from licensing. You got some real hatred for Trump. He definitely can handle debates and conversations like an alpha.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy

He is a scam artist. He pretends he owns buildings when he doesn't. And the people who do own those buildings scam investors out of money. He is a media created clown. He is the same as Kim Kardashian. I admire Kim Kardashian for the same reasons as I admire Trump.

And if you really think Trump is an alpha well then you're just dumb.

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He built his brand and then uses his brand to make even more. It could be considered shady, but it's what every successful businessman wants to do. He started from $1 million and turned it into $10 billion.

Watch his interactions on tv and talk-shows. He is the social alpha. He cucks everyone. He has several principles the TRP follows.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy

It could be considered shady, but it's what every successful businessman wants to do.

No there a lot of people that don't want to be reality TV stars that lie about owning buildings when they are really just licensing a name.

Watch his interactions on tv and talk-shows. He is the social alpha.

So is Kanye West. Anybody can act like a tough guy if that's your shtick. It doesn't mean he is actually an alpha.

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So being a reality TV star automatically disqualifies you as a candidate? LOL.

He does own many buildings, but licenses the buildings he doesn't want to own. This is how business works.

Kanye West is no where near alpha LOL.

Research Donald and get past the point of Reality TV star and look at him as a politican stand-point. How can a Reality TV star be worth $10 billion? Not everyone is that special or knows what they are doing.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

He does own many buildings, but licenses the buildings he doesn't want to own.

How do you know that? As far as I know, all of those buildings are licensed.

How can a Reality TV star be worth $10 billion?

He's not worth 10 billion. He's lying. There is no actual evidence he even has $1 billion. You're a gullible idiot.

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You don't get it! When Trump becomes president he's gonna send all us white men a check for a million dollars!! It's just like when Obama got elected and he gave all the blacks a mansion and a yacht!! You don't need to tell ME how politics works! (straightens tie)

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's fascinating when people just project whatever fantasies they have onto Donald Trump even if Donald Trump hasn't said a single thing about those things. "Trump's gonna being Red Pill values back." Uh, when has Donald Trump said a single thing about Red Pill values?

[–]HughMannity13 points14 points  (2 children) | Copy

Donald Trump isn't redpill, he's just a self promoting fake dickhead.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

People who think Trump are redpill are the same ones who think Dan Bilzerian is a badass.

[–]PM_ME_STDS10 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy

Man she is level headed. Why cant the whiny tumblr femiz think this way. If you want to be treated like,a man you gotta be punished like ometoo.

[–]Sementeries5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

That requires taking responsibility.

[–]user55772 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

There was no reason to misquote the original interviewer, what she said would have sufficed but just putting spin on it makes the position less credible.

[–]leftenant_t32 points33 points  (8 children) | Copy

Trump circlejerking was all we needed on this subreddit.

[–]KhazarKhaganate5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

And he's the epitome of Beta Bux. That's the funny part.

They see him bullying around the other candidates, so they think "woah, that's what douchebags and bad-boys do, he must be RP."

Or the fact that he spoke his true opinions in politics? It's like some people haven't been around old people very long. Old people over the age of 60, frequently will say controversial things and have stopped giving a shit about what people think of them.

Trump is a 70 year old billionaire with kids, wife, and everything he can want from life. Why would he be afraid of losing his bid for the presidency? That's exactly why he can say so many wild things and get away with it.

It's true abundance mentality. It's not because he is RP or read about RP somewhere. It's because he's a spoiled brat who grew up as a billionaire CEO.

[–]ArkAngelEV-1 points0 points  (6 children) | Copy

He's the hero we deserve, but not the one we need. So we'll jerk to him. Because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a loudmouth guardian, a divisive protector. A dark knight.

cue epic zimmer outro

[–]renegade-3 points-2 points  (5 children) | Copy

A con man, and you're gargling his balls.

[–]ArkAngelEV-5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy

better his balls than Carson or Bernie. Maybe ill get close to that golden parachute ivanka

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[–]Diarrhea_Van_Frank6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Even so, still voting for Trump. Worst case scenario, the system burns to the ground and we have to start over. Plenty of people have been begging for that for years. Best case scenario, he actually gets shit done.

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lol, Trump is so clearly, well to any real observer of psychopaths I guess, playing everybody. He slips every once in awhile and the mask drops. He's a massive egomaniac with serious psychopathic tendencies, but then again so is Clinton. So, tomato, toemato kinda thing.

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[–]spacecase894 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

If he really is a sociopath, he is a very smart one because most of them leave a trail of wreckage behind them. In his case, his workers seem to love him and his family seems to love him. I have no examples of lives destroyed, which is hard to believe.

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Exactly. He's a very well off sociopath, he's paid people off or he knows of certain providers of the keep quiet business, that can provide a unique type of insurance...

[–]KhazarKhaganate0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Not only that but he's also Beta Bux, but being a billionaire can give you some characteristics similar to narcissistic alphas.

I mean all his wives divorced him for the biggest settlements.

The latest model whore, Melenia Trump, is just that: a whore looking to be first lady, living the billionaire life, going on TV thanks to Trump.

You think she likes having sex with him? Nope. He has bought her and brought her from Slovenia. She's paid for.

And no politician wife will ever disagree with their husband. What did everyone expect?

[–]500lbdeadlift0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I agree. No one President nor one bill, executive order, directive, world view or any other sociopolitical aspect is going to save America from nose diving into mediocrity and bloatedness.

[–]Menigguh4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

She was coached, fell in line and supported her bread winner. I fail to see the significance.

[–]ComplainyGuy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

op just wanted to share some of his political thoughts on trump and immigration.

[–]rossiFan11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

I want her to be First Lady even more than I want him to be President.

I'm voting for him (and her) so hard, it's not even funny.

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And worse case scenario, she won't be able to do a Hillary and be carried to the White House on her husband's legacy.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo5 points6 points  (12 children) | Copy

the wife of probably the most red pill man on the planet.

How is he red piill? He is a woman. He is a narcissistic attention whore.

The gal can sniff a loaded question and shut it down like nobody's business:

So.... how is this impressive? She is a politician's wife doing what politician's wives do.

“They’re treated equal. I see him in life, he treats women the same as men. He will tell you what is in his heart, what he thinks. He will not hold it back if you’re a woman, you’re human. If you’re a woman or a man, it’s no different, you’re human."

Uh, no. Would Donald Trump accuse a man of asking him hard questions because he was on his period? Trump is a coward that only goes after weak targets (Rosie O'Donnell, Megan Kelly) because he has no substance to himself.

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She directly and logically answered the questions. Impressive stuff.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

You do realize that they have a media team that prepares them for interviews right? Jeez some of you people are naive.

[–]MakeEmSayAyy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Not every interview ever is planned dude, that would be logistics nightmare. But is ok you typical savage-_-

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he only did that when it was convenient for him. He kissed all of those guys asses earlier. He is a narcissist and an opportunist.

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I would assume attacking the Pope is generally inconvenient

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

he only attacked the pope after the pope attacked him and then he quickly backed down. he said the pope was a great guy the next week after that.

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Of course. The Pope attacked him, he struck back, the Pope conceded, and he made amends.

Write it however you see fit. The man still attacked the fucking Pope.

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The pope did not concede. Trump conceded because he knew he would fuck himself politically if he went after the pope.

[–]HS-Thompson24 points25 points  (3 children) | Copy

Can you mouthbreathers please go make a /trumpredpillmasturbation subreddit or something and leave this one to its chosen topic of self improvement and sexual strategy for men?

The opinions of some 50 year old lady on immigration don't have anything to do with those two topics.

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He is one of the people that bought the mouthpieces.
Cruz, Rubio, Bush, Clinton, Sanders are the mouth pieces.

He says what he wants to say. This is why the media keep thinking he has offed himself. Because he just says shit. Someones asks him a question and he fucking answers. You may or may not agree with the answer, but I am fairly sure that he agrees with what he says.

I value honesty in communicating what your values are so much, that I am ok with them not perfectly aligning with my own. People are done with non statements and side stepping questions.

Also. Fuck Bernie. If he does not get the nomination he will bend over for the Democratic machine and tell us all what an honest person Clinton really is.

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What makes you say Bernie will bend over for the Democratic machine?

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The campaign he has run to date and the voting record that is almost 100% party line.
What makes you think he will not? Have not heard him say it. Voting record does not indicate it.
Why would you think any different?

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I think Trump is a real issue for the powers that be.

This is why in the beginning every story was "Trump is Done!", "Trump fucked up this time!", "Trump just blew and chance he had.".

The media on both sides was looking to kill him off. This is why I will vote for him. Might not work out. The one thing I do know is that with Cruz, Rubio, Clinton and Sanders we will only get the same shit we have been getting for 30 years.

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Trump wants WW? Hmm, seems possible. I think WWIII will be fought to help keep the global economy going. Though I did not really expect Trump to lead us there, but he has the rhetoric and lack of overt political goals.

Is Trump bought by the Rothschilds to you?

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This all makes sense to me, I have ventured into the rabbit hole and was lost in it for a while with sheer rage and hatred before accepting. Classic.

What are you referring to that happened to the UK 102 years ago? The federal reserve act of 1913 perhaps?

How do you forsee Trump bringing down the USA?

Him being outside the system seemed impossible.

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Trump is the hope. Not a sure answer.
All we know for sure is that every other person we have a chance at electing is most assuredly "Status quo".

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So this isn't about her at all, it's a bit of political awareness for trump.

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She is fluent in English, French, Slovenian, Serbian, and German. Probably more than arm candy.

[–]Heraclitus9413 points14 points  (32 children) | Copy

Trump seriously might be my hero.

The man doesn't drink caffeine, doesn't drink alcohol, has made a fortune in real estate (even if he did come from a rich family), knows how to hold frame, can take a joke about himself and actually get in on the joke, and knows how to speak and debate.

[–]logicalthinker18 points9 points  (28 children) | Copy

Except you're wrong about basically everything. The only red pill thing he does is openly challenge and insult people and watch them hang their head in shame.

He can't hold frame. He attacks anyone and everyone like a jealous, bitchy woman. If you don't bow down to him, he throws a tantrum like a child. He's a pathological liar...like a crazy ex. He's a huge douche, and not the good kind.

Plus he's actually dumb. Listen to him speak. I'm not talking about his ideas, look at how he forms sentences. He can't form a coherent thought. His success comes from his ability to dictate what he wants and leverage his already existing power. That's it.

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He speaks the way he speaks because he knows his audience. He's a very well educated man who makes deals with people all over the world on a regular basis, you don't get to be where Trump is through dumb luck. The way Trump communicates is perfectly crafted for his target audience, which shows great intelligence.

As for not holding frame that is just completely ridiculous. He gets attacked and misquoted again and again every single day by the mass media and yet he still holds his head up high, never apologises and continues to say what he wants to say. He is the fucking master of holding frame. I'd like to see you hold frame when an entire nation is calling you a racist and a sexist.

[–]logicalthinker1-5 points-4 points  (3 children) | Copy

He's always talked like this no matter what. Listen to stuff way before the election. He has always sounded like a buffoon. But you fell for it hook, line, and sinker

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He is a salesman and he talks like a salesman. Watch this video and tell me Trump doesn't know exactly what he is doing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aFo_BV-UzI

The creator of that video implies that Trump is being manipulative or in someway dishonest but I don't think that is the case. He is running for the presidency and is simply selling himself and his ideas to the general public. He has always sold himself too, he treats himself as a brand and has made a ton of money by doing so.

You say he talks like a buffoon, I don't think that he does. He uses simple language sure but he expresses himself clearly and with conviction. He says what he means and is unapologetic in doing so and I respect that.

[–]logicalthinker12 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Here's a great example from a debate. He's an ass clown and he speaks like one http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/donald-trump-has-no-idea-what-americas-nuclear-triad-is-1748283463

My favorite line: "I think for me, nuclear is just the power. The devastation is very important to me." Lololol what a fucking idiot.

[–]Divinityfound3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Trump has made it abundantly clear that he will always put people smarter than him in positions of power to control and manage things he knows little about. Him being a business leader will have countless years of experience knowing the best way to vet out who'd be best for the job.

[–]suubz4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

yeah lol he's so incoherent and stupid

http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4544001/donald-trump-1991-house-hearing-us-economic-recovery-depression-vs-recession

Trump has an intimate understanding of what good policy looks like. He has for decades.

[–]logicalthinker12 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

He's reading prepared remarks. I can fucking look like a genious if I'm allowed to prepare remarks. He has his entire legal team to help him with that. But if you put him on the spot, he sounds like the fucking idiot he is. Conversely, if you look at how Cruz speaks off the cuff, it's the complete opposite of Trump. He has a reflexive and deep understanding of the issues. He doesn't need to prepare remarks; he just knows his shit.

10 seconds into the vid, he called the recession a depression. Lol he was already wrong within the first 10 seconds of the video.

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Sure he's got some notes, but who would stand at a HoR hearing without notes. Btw the full hearing is over 45 minutes long and he goes into some detailed analysis of the market's conditions and displays his keen observational and analytical skills, I just realized the vid I linked is only a small portion of that.

Also, what was he wrong about? If you're not aware of the difference between a depression and a recession it's clearly you who's lacking in knowledge. He was stating that what was being touted at that time as a recession was in fact a depression which is different.

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[–]logicalthinker1-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Allegedly. We don't know that to be the case for sure

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He speaks like that on purpose.

[–]logicalthinker16 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

No he fucking doesn't! He sounds like a fucking idiot!

Other politicians dumb down ideas to simple concepts that are easy to grasp. Everyone else does it, Trump doesn't. For example, when talking about foreign policy, they don't spill out a dissertation about some country's socio-economic history and how it relates to current affairs. Trump says, "we're going to win against China, we're gonna win so much you'll be tired of winning!" Lol is he Charlie Sheen?!

[–]KhazarKhaganate0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Based on what evidence? You're so full of shit.

Trump is the most idiotic man who has had the most success and luck in this planet.

Just read his response to Obama's gitmo plan, and then read the other candidates response. It's clear that Trump's response, is the dumber, more simpleton response.

The other candidates, (whether they used professional writers or not), always sound smarter, more well-researched, more knowledgeable, in every possible way.

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Yes, they do sound smarter.

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Confirmed for knowing nothing about Trump.

[–]Sementeries10 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy

no goals or vision

Sounds like somebody who isn't a billionaire.

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Funny that you name two war leaders and then ghandi.

Trump wants power, but I'm not sure what's wrong with that. Presidents of the USA have been charismatic faces more than much else the last several decades. Bullshit rhetoric under the guise of change, and reality is more of the same endless war and economic fuckery.

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Trumps goal is to take power, money and become famous. He is chasing the fame to make money.

And you know that because? Are you an ESP?

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

There is no actual evidence that Trump is a billionaire. How much money people have is a secret and Trump has never released his financial information. He claims he is a billionaire, and he has sued people for claiming he isn't, but there is no actual evidence he is a billionaire.

The reality is that he probably does not own most (or even any) of the "Trump Tower" buildings. He just licenses his name out. His "business empire" is run by other people and Trump has absolutely 0 day to day involvement (which explains how he can run for President and do reality shows).

[–]ShamelessAttempt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Can take a joke about himself? Are you kidding? A Trump supporter can say anything about Trump and I won't say anything until it's about him knowing comedy, because that's just outright not true. He sued a comedian for insinuating his father was an orangutan. SUED. A comedian's job is to make fun of stuff, by the way. Suing is not what people who can take a joke do. So no, Trump cannot take, get in on, or unfortunately, even make a good joke.

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You can drink caffeine directly?

[–]freddymerckx3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Whatever. Anyone who thinks that Trump would be a good president is a moron. I'm sure she was coached and prepared before the interview, she knew what was coming

[–]flip691 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

What does it say that I view her a being practical and sensible vs spouting the typical american female line to such questions.

I sure as hell do not like Trump or his goddy rococo kitsch style... SURE AS HELL DO NOT WANT HIM AS PRESIDENT.

But I'll give credit where it's due to his mail order wife.

[–]downvotesanimals2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ugh. Fuck off and die with this trump shit.

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How many people actually think Trump is Red Pill? He's just an asshole. There is a huge difference.

He is easily one of the dumbest people I've ever heard speak publicly. There is a big difference between being an alpha, and being born so rich/entitled that you have no sense of shame.

[–]jameygates4 points5 points  (17 children) | Copy

Finally! The more authoritarian you are does not mean the me red pill you are.

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He's a moderate compared to the rest of the GOP. Where did you get this idea that he's authoritarian?

[–]whats_the_deal227 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy

Because no one really knows what he stands for. They hear a few quips he said in an interview or some outlandish statement he made and they say "wow, this guy is an extremist asshole." He's not. He's been spitting out some very polarizing opinions to conjure up controversy and keep the spotlight on himself. All the while the people who agree with become fierce supporters. But other than some outlandish things he's said he actually is quite moderate which is part of the reason the rest of the party doesn't like him.

Below is a list compiled by /u/AngryRedditorsBelow

  • No more nation building in the Middle East. He openly called the Iraq War a mistake even back when it wasn't cool to do so.

  • He wants lower and middle class tax cuts.

  • He is focused on American jobs.

  • He wants to reduce student loan debt. Is against the government charging interest on student loans: "That's probably one of the only things the government shouldn't make money off – I think it's terrible that one of the only profit centers we have is student loans." Openness to lowering student loan interest rates and making loan forgiveness programs.

  • Wants to audit the Federal Reserve.

  • Doesn't have any special interests groups funding him unlike the other candidates. Has called for all candidates to return the money they're getting back to Super PACs and to remove special interest groups from our election process.

  • Likes universal healthcare, is open to replacing America's broken system with something similar to Canada but better.

  • Moderate on social issues (e.g. affirmative action, women's health, gay rights)

  • Focus on broad-based American nationalism instead of narrow and divisive race and gender identity politics.

  • Acknowledgement that political correctness is obnoxious.

  • Desire to put America first in trade deals instead of pure Wall Street globalism that exploits third world workers abroad and destroys domestic jobs.

  • Realist based foreign policy. (e.g. deal with Putin if it is in our national interest to do so, even if he isn't a nice guy).

  • National pride. The man loves his country and thinks it is the best. Every country should have a leader like that.

  • Diversity: he employed women in leadership roles before it was popular to do that. And he did it in the construction industry of all places.

  • He has absolutely nothing against legal immigration, he's encouraged it many times. His grandparents are immigrants, his wife is an immigrant, several of his closest business partners in New York are immigrants. He is against uncontrolled, illegal immigration.

  • Hugely successful businessman, knows how to manage money, how to invest for the future and a fantastic negotiator.

  • Unlike other candidates, his economic plan actually makes sense. It would result in "an 11 percent higher GDP, a 29 percent larger capital stock, 6.5 percent higher wages, and 5.3 million more full-time equivalent jobs".

  • Take a look at this video of him back in 1991 talking about how to utilize the upper class to re-invest in America or face higher taxes . Not only is he very knowledgable in economics and investment, but the tax structure he offers up back in 91' seems relevant even today to help alleviate some of the complaints we have about 1%'ers and wall street.

  • He's genuinely against TPP.

  • Acknowledges the danger of allowing mass refugees from places governed by fundamentalist terrorist groups, even if such acknowledgment is not politically correct.

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This is a very high energy comment.

[–]ComplainyGuy0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Likes universal healthcare, is open to replacing America's broken system with something similar to Canada but better.

Is this true or are you spitting shit.

Healthcare is my trigger point to deciding. If you have any sources that would be useful for me to share with others.

[–]KhazarKhaganate1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

He's held both sides... in different debates.

So basically, you won't be able to choose because NO ONE FUCKING KNOWS WHAT TRUMP STANDS FOR.

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Saying Trump is focused on a broad range of American nationalism literally make me laugh out loud. "Broad" if you're white maybe.

He constantly shitting on Mexicans, Arabs and the Chinese.

[–]GOATmar1 point2 points  (13 children) | Copy

This right here is proof that you can swallow the "general" Red Pill (or at least be made aware of it - nature of women, nature of men, biomechanics and such) but still be totally "blue pill" when it comes to politics and knowing what separates a supreme alpha from the lesser ones (not to mention the race/Jew red pill...)

Said once and I'll say it again.

There are levels to this red pill shit and 99.99% of TRP has only taken one of 2 red pills out of like 4 or 5.

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Entitled rich guy who born rich says insulting things that doesn't make sense and lies constantly, and won't apologize That's not Red Pill. That's an asshole.

you want to go on about holding frame and shit like that, ok, but you can't be dogmatic about this. Everything depends on context.

When the people who follow you only have the lowest IQ in the country, and many of them are a bunch of racist shit heads, you aren't being an alpha; you're appealing to weak people, and worse yet, you are planting to them and they have authority over you.

Kennedy was an alpha. FDR was an alpha. Trump is not in any class near where those guys were.

[–]GOATmar3 points4 points  (11 children) | Copy

Entitled rich guy who born rich says insulting things that doesn't make sense and lies constantly, and won't apologize That's not Red Pill. That's an asshole.

Prove it. Show me where Trump has lied since he started running for president.

Not only that, show me how "lying" invalidates one from being a supreme alpha, and more hilariously yet show me where any other alpha has never told a lie.

You also said he doesn't make sense? LMAO

You have no case. You're a blue-pilled fool. You're likely a brown person terrified of Trump because you're scared he's gonna deport you.

When the people who follow you only have the lowest IQ in the country

Oh shut the fuck up. Many high IQ folk love Trump. Trump is high IQ himself.

Most COLLEGE educated idiots are voting for Sanders or anyone but Trump SOLELY because Millennial colleges have indoctrinated them into being Social Justice Warriors. "Smart" folk nowadays, in the sense of degrees/education, are among the most retarded folk on this planet. These are same idiots campaigning for feminism (destructive), the acceptance of even more destructive RAPEfugees, and socialism, etc etc. Terrible people.

Sure most of these kids have fast processing brains for solving maths... but that shit means NOTHING in the real world if you've been brainwashed by jews to use that brain power to campaign insane leftism/Social justice/political retardedness.

I live this shit everyday. I know SO many college educated/"""Smart""" kids voting for Sanders over Trump because it's socially more acceptable, and because they want to get rid of school debts/"muh equality."

Again, you have no case here whatsoever.

many of them are a bunch of racist shit heads

Racist is just codeword for "logical" & "sane/healthy"

Diversity is just codeword for "white genocide."

Proximity + Diversity = WAR.

Racism is biomechanics instilling tribalism to avoid conflict/racial tension/war.

I'm latino and I am racist as shit towards minorities. And I do NOT blame white folk for being sick of brown folk's shit. Hell, I am.

you aren't being an alpha; you're appealing to weak people, and worse yet, you are planting to them and they have authority over you.

Any strong leader has weaker folk following him. Women follow the made Men. Beta faggots follow the women.

No leader leads a bunch of leaders - at least not for long before getting out-alpha'd. Alphas all lead each other, taking turns being leaders.

The position of President cannot be rotating though. It's the highest position in the country, probably the fuckin world. You have to be supremely alpha ESPECIALLY in today's pussified age to take the presidency by sheer will and force of nature like Trump has (Check the polls!)

Kennedy was an alpha. FDR was an alpha. Trump is not in any class near where those guys were.

Trump is single handedly destroying the degenerate media and everyone who HATES his guts. Slaughtering them. Absolutely raping them. He's doing so unapologetically, with grace, and charm you can study to incorporate into your own life - he is a TRUE role model. He even has the respect of PUTIN - Russia's closest freakin FDR they possibly ever had. He doesn't take money from jews, he has his own.

Kennedy & FDR were supreme alphas in a time they were bred & EXPECTED to be... Trump is one in a system/society that breeds emasculated faggots and punishes masculinity. Trump is more impressive than both of them combined, period.

This is an entirely different era and a whole new ballgame. For Trump to be respected and admire by dudes like Cernovich and Heartiste, not to mention Putin etc... speaks volumes.

Anyone not seeing this as clear as I've broken it down is probably a terrified brown illegal. And your opinion doesn't matter anyhow.

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Prove it. Show me where Trump has lied since he started running for president. Not only that, show me how "lying" invalidates one from being a supreme alpha, and more hilariously yet show me where any other alpha has never told a lie.

At one point you're challenging the notion that he lied, and then stating that all alpha's lie.

Why don't you get your views straight first, then we can talk.

As for my opinion not mattering.... well friend... it's not like you are going to be changing the world for flip flopping on your views and supporting somebody you claim has a high IQ and yet thinks Paris is in Germany and refers to "Second Corinthians" as "Corinthians two". But whatever.

He's written 15 books (with ghost writers) on business. the ironic thing is that they don't all end in chapter 11.

You sound like a Trump sheep... and that's cool... but I don't take lessons on what an alpha is from sheep.

[–]GOATmar-1 points0 points  (6 children) | Copy

At one point you're challenging the notion that he lied, and then stating that all alpha's lie.

False. I asked you to prove he lied.

You still haven't done so.

Then, I asked you to prove which "alpha" hasn't, regardless of this non-existent proof.

You still haven't.

Conclusion: you are completely wrong. Which makes you a hater.

You know who hates winners like Trump? Fuckin pathetic losers LOL.

yet thinks Paris is in Germany

Yea you're a troll idiot. That tweet has already been debunked the day it came out and idiots like you made it a big deal. That's the only thing you have against Trump? fuckin kek

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Trumps lies?

Here's some:

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

As for the Paris/Germany thing.... that was his Tweet... He made a statement about Paris, and then said Germany's a mess. In the context, it seems pretty clear. You want to say he was listing things? Then why would be be listing cities then switch to countries? But whatever.

He's still an idiot whose got no clue what a 7th Day Adventist is and doesn't know how to say Second Corinthians without looking like a complete tool.

But you are more concerned with passing judgement on my skin colour when you don't even know what it is.

[–]GOATmar0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

i was crying when you inked to PolitiFact to discredit Trump

in tears hahahhahaha

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I realize they have a liberal bias, but the facts are the facts.

[–]GOATmar0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I realize they have a liberal bias

gg no re

have fun being deported sometime next year, mulatto shitlib

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Most COLLEGE educated idiots are voting for Sanders or anyone but Trump SOLELY because Millennial colleges have indoctrinated them into being Social Justice Warriors.

So you are into the 'education makes you stupid' routine? Very alpha. you know what an alpha does? Gets on top of his game, puts in the work; learns what he needs to know, and puts it into action.

You have no case. You're a blue-pilled fool. You're likely a brown person terrified of Trump because you're scared he's gonna deport you.

So you are a racist troll trying to invalidate an opinion based on somebody's skin colour AND you support Trump. SURPRISE!!!

Oh shut the fuck up. Many high IQ folk love Trump. Trump is high IQ himself.

Really? What's his approval rating among people with an IQ over a 100?

This is what Trump supporters look like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFYdWXZLpT4

Watch that. I doubt anybody in that crowd will be figuring out how to split an atom any time soon.

[–]GOATmar-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

So you are into the 'education makes you stupid' routine?

No. I'm into the "college institutions in 2016 are ran by SJWs that teach impressionable low-T boys and low-E girls social justice" reality.

So you are a racist troll trying to invalidate an opinion based on somebody's skin colour AND you support Trump. SURPRISE!!!

I knew you were a biased mudskin. Must suck to suck, manlet.

Keep hating on winners like Trump tho! It's totally working

Really? What's his approval rating among people with an IQ over a 100?

1000%.

This is what Trump supporters look like

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Mudskin? lol

Thank you for being open about your racism.

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

When you earn it; not when you inherit it.

[–]Endorsed Contributorzyk0s0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

not when you inherit it.

Do you seriously think it matters to the chicks he's fucking?

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As you pointed out, he's earned it multiple times over.

[–]nikdahl2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Did he "earn" that million dollar loan? Or the knowledge that no matter how much risk he takes with his money, he will always be perfectly fine? Did he earn his very expensive education? Or being born into a family that is surrounded by people that were able to advise and mentor on how to invest, negotiate and sell? Did he "earn" the bull market that allowed his investments to flourish?

He was born into privilege. Sure he worked hard, but if you think someone starting from nothing working twice as hard as him would result in anything close to what Trump has now.

The idea that he "earned" his money is simply not accurate, at least not in the way that most people purport. He was born into that money. Almost anyone, given a million dollars at zero risk and a good financial adviser in those markets could have amassed a very similar worth.

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You answered your own question. Him recieving the educatiom he did combined with being surrounded by those he was allowed him to earn whatever he has. Yes, he may have had more privilege than others, but again as you point out, he had to be educated and surround himself with quality people in order to earn what he has. Many are born with silver spoons and do nothing with their lifes. He could have made a few millions and been content. The simple fact he can recieve as much hate as he is and yet still be a front runner for the GOP shows there are lessons on business and leadership he can show others. Sure he was extremely lucky in his upbringing, sure many others in similar positions of privilege could have amassed such wealth, but what we're seeing him do in the GOP primary is pretty remarkable considering the political climate of today.

We can admire what he is doing in today's political climate while still disagreeing vehemently about how well he would be as potus.

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If he would (or his supporters) recognize how much his privilege has led to his successes in life I would respect him as a person much more than I do now. But he doesn't recognize the privilege, and neither do his supporters, they keep parroting that he "earned everything he has", which is bullshit, or that his wealth is somehow evidence that he is a financial genius or a genius businessperson, which is also bullshit.

The guy is a great huckster. He is preying on ignorance, hatred and fear the same way that Hitler did. I don't mean that to be empty hyperbole, or as inappropriately playing the Hitler card, but I mean that in the historical context, the political climate, and the way that Trump is playing the climate have a LOT of similarities to Germany and Hitler's rise in the 30s. I'm certainly not suggesting that Trump is literally Hitler.

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Fuck your whining about privileges. What a bitch.

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He's red pill and an idiot. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Granted he's a genius at business and getting what he wants. He is politically stupid.

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He's really not a genius at business. How many times did he go bankrupt? If he wasn't born rich, he'd have nothing right now. And if he had just put his dad's money in the bank and collected interest off it, he'd likely have more money than he has now.

There's a difference between being a sociopathic egomaniac and an alpha.

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Going bankrupt and making it again shows deeps understanding of business. I don't know how he did it, I have not studied him much. Do you know how he was able to go bankrupt and amass wealth again?

There are alphas society hates and alphas society loves.

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And there are people who are bank rolled by their father and can fail without having to deal with the consequences of failure because somebody else bails them out.

Whether that be the government, or his father.

[–]DONT_reply_with_THIS-1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy

He's politically stupid but dominating the polls and almost guaranteed to be our next President.

Maybe he's not as politically stupid as you claim.

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What are his political policies and beliefs?

He's politically smart in the sense that he can garner votes and praise. But he has no political platform to actually implement, or at least none that I am aware of.

[–]DONT_reply_with_THIS0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

He's against nation rebuilding like we've been doing for decades in the middle east.

He's against TPP and trade deals which benefit wall street and foreign governments and fuck over the middle class.

He wants to reinvest a ton of money in infrastructure which would create a ton of jobs.

He wants to deport illegal immigrants which are a huge drain on our tax dollars.

He wants to keep the United States from becoming full of cucks like in Europe who have allowed total and complete islamization to occur in their country. Instead of the Islamists needing an army to invade Europe they invaded with an army of refugees. You'll see more and more the effects of this in the future. Mass rapes, huge financial crisis due to the massive drain on tax dollars.

European men will eventually have to stand the fuck up and do something or they're doomed.

He's also not a politically correct pussy like a majority of politicians.

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Do you have a source for this on hand?

I'm down with being against the trade deals and nation rebuilding especially, but this is the first I'm hearing about it lol

[–]DONT_reply_with_THIS0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

TPP http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/09/exclusive-donald-trump-obamas-trans-pacific-free-trade-deal-insanity/

“The only people that are supporting it politically are people that are controlled by the lobbyists for certain companies that want this to happen because it’s to their advantage, not to the country’s advantage. So the lobbyists and the special interests are supporting it, and certain politicians are supporting it because they’re totally controlled by the lobbyists and the special interests.”

Nation building http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/13/donald-trump-foreign-policy-doctrine-nation-building

"The United States owes $19tn,” he said. “We have to straighten out our own house. We cannot go around to every country that we’re not exactly happy with and say we’re going to recreate [them].n

Head over to The_Donald domreddit(not a subreddit, sounds too submissive)

[–]CaCacanada5 points6 points  (12 children) | Copy

The Trump circlejerkers are just as bad as the Bernie Sanders circlejerkers.

You people don't even realize that you're essentially the same.

[–]Sementeries0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

One is a spineless cuckhold and the other isn't

(Hint: B S)

[–]Dishevel0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

Sanders is a politician that will put the good of the party above his values.
Trump is a guy who buys politicians and if he is not nominated he will not endorse one of the other whores.

They are very different. If Bernie wins he will fight a bit for what he believes in, but the good of the party will always "Trump" the will of the people in his mind.

[–]jameygates3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy

The good of the party..? Sanders does not really care for the Democratic Party he has been an independent for the majority of his political career.

[–]Dishevel0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

He runs as an independent because it is really good for his electability. He caucuses pretty much 100% with the Democrats. The Democrats run nothing against him, because he actually is one.

He has worked very hard not to hit Hillary with anything that could hurt her in the General election and despite the fact that everyone knows she is a liar, you watch.

100%. If Bernie does not get the nomination, he will, 100% back Hillary Clinton. Not because she is honest and good for the country. Because he will tow the party line.

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This is a weird view of Bernie. He is between Democrats and Republicans, wants more for the people which is Democrat while cutting spending that does not focus on the country which is Republican. He's against endless war which is not Democrat or Republican, against fucking up the environment which is also not Democrat or Republican. Essentially, he goes against corporate agenda, which is not Democrat or Republican.

[–]Dishevel1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

His voting record is much more clear.
He votes party line.

Edit: To add this.

As an independent, Sanders worked out a deal with the Senate Democratic leadership in which he agrees to vote with the Democrats on all procedural matters except with permission from Democratic whip Dick Durbin (a request that is almost never made or granted). In return, he is allowed to keep his seniority and received the committee seats that would have been available to him as a Democrat; in 2013–14 he was Chairman of the United States Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs (during the Veterans Health Administration scandal).[112][113] Sanders is free to vote as he pleases on policy matters, but has almost always voted with the Democrats.

Also he is between Liberal and Socialist.

[–]jameygates4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

You're so wrong. He isn't going to back Hilary Clinton to 'toe the party line' he would do it because she would still be obviously better than the Republican nomination.

[–]Dishevel0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So you are saying that he will not toe the party line.
He will just do the thing that looks like it for other reasons.
Cool.

So. The same exact thing can be said for his stellar voting record. Where he just happens to think that the Democrats are right ALL THE TIME. Like you I guess. Republicans are always wrong and Democrats are always right.
You must sleep well at tonight knowing there are so many politicians that care about the well being of the people over all else.

Also. From Wikipedia.

As an independent, Sanders worked out a deal with the Senate Democratic leadership in which he agrees to vote with the Democrats on all procedural matters except with permission from Democratic whip Dick Durbin (a request that is almost never made or granted). In return, he is allowed to keep his seniority and received the committee seats that would have been available to him as a Democrat; in 2013–14 he was Chairman of the United States Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs (during the Veterans Health Administration scandal).[112][113] Sanders is free to vote as he pleases on policy matters, but has almost always voted with the Democrats.

Seems like a party guy to me.

[–]duglock-3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy

The opposite is true. Leftism is a feminine ideology. There is a reason if you were to remove the female vote there would not be a single Democrat president elected. That is just a fact.

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[–]KhazarKhaganate0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

He does. I swear, the betas in TRP are so attracted and sheepishly follow anyone with some charisma.

One TRPer even bragged about how "donald is always winning"... like as if that's a TRP trait.

One day, some of these TRPers will realize The Donald ===> Beta Bux billionaire with a huge amount of narcissism that they were confusing for confidence/intelligence.

Just goes to show you one thing though: you can say the most idiotic things and get away with it. There will always be people who love you.

[–]maxio994 points5 points  (41 children) | Copy

"I never thought to stay here without papers. I had a visa, I traveled every few months back to the country to Slovenia to stamp the visa. I came back, I applied for the green card, I applied for the citizenship later on after many years of green card. So I went by system, I went by the law. And you should do that, you should not just say let me stay here and whatever happens, happens.”

This is where I call BS . For anyone who ever applied for any type of Visa to live/work/study in US is obvious BS . Do you know that US Embassy doesn't have to prolong your Visa ? And most cases they just don't . If you study - they can tell you enough for now , stay home for a while and come back in few months and we will see . They can reject you for a lot of different reasons (because you are "too old" or you do not have enough money) .

And most important I just don't believe her . She had a life set up in US , she had some businesses , work , apartment ,bills everything and she just was risking everything she had going on to comeback to Slovenia to get a new visa (maybe or maybe not) ? If this would be that easy - there would be no illegal emigrants in US .

[–]CuckedByTRUMP4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

You forget that a lot of the time I'm sure Don was involved. That man has power. The process when she was traveling back and forth to see him was probably fairly easy due to connections.

[–]KhazarKhaganate-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yes private planes and lawyers handling her visa etc.

That whore will divorce trump for a lot of money someday, especially if she doesn't get to become first-lady.

Just like his last few wives he paid HUUUUUUUGE TREMENDOUS money to.

[–]CuckedByTRUMP0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Trump is the king of prenups. He has won big every divorce. He wins because he takes precautions. One wife of his got 60 mil after everything was said and done. He was worth like 3 billion at the time. He is not dumb. He knows this game. Poor dudes are the ones who get divorce raped. Or guys who got rich after getting married. Trump is not this way and doesn't fall into this trap.

[–]1TonyLaRocca7 points8 points  (32 children) | Copy

But why should legal immigration be easy? Every nation has an obligation to its taxpayers to give them the best life possible. If there is low gainful employment in the US, and the cost of social services and education are rising, then why should the government take in more immigrants at all? This isn't a racist or xenophobic view, just a logistical one.

[–]1kick67 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's a nationalist view, which could be described as xenophobic, and there's nothing wrong with it.

Don't let people's stupid labels steer you away from truth.

[–]Kakistokratic0 points1 point  (22 children) | Copy

Depends on the immigrant. Lots of Silicon Valley start-up CEO's are running the company from over seas because their application is stuck in Kafka-land. I'd dare say they're an asset to the economy. But I could be wrong.

[–]1kick61 point2 points  (20 children) | Copy

I'd dare say they're an asset to the economy. But I could be wrong.

Last stats I saw say that more startups shit the bed than not. So not necessarily a benefit. And more facebooks isn't exactly what this country needs at the moment. We need hard workers...not idea men.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo0 points1 point  (17 children) | Copy

Last stats I saw say that more startups shit the bed than not. So not necessarily a benefit.

Are you kidding me? 95% of all businesses fail. That's how capitalism works. But its the 5% that don't fail that make this country great. How can you say that's not a benefit.

[–]1kick60 points1 point  (16 children) | Copy

Because the 95% that DO fail take a lot of capital down the toilet with them. Are you saying the 5% create enough wealth to balance the 95% that destroy it?

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo0 points1 point  (15 children) | Copy

Because the 95% that DO fail take a lot of capital down the toilet with them.

Oh, wow, how to tackle this one.

first of all, do you know what capital is? It's money, buildings, equipment, etc... That shit doesn't disappear when the business fails. It just gets sold to other businesses.

Secondly, yes 95% of ALL BUSINESSES FAIL. Not just startups. And those startups that succeed do a lot of fucking good. Look at Google. Look at Microsoft. Look at Uber.

[–]1kick60 points1 point  (14 children) | Copy

Do you know what money is? That shit DOES disappear if you invest in assets that are then devalued. if I buy 100 shares of stock at $1, and then the company shits the bed to the point the stock is only worth $.01, that money is GONE. I don't get my $.99 back as it's "sold to other busineses."

This is ESPECIALLY true in the idea-economy that is so prevalent in silicon valley. There isn't a warehouse full of TVs or Cars that can be sold, discounted, to recover a portion of losses. There's just half-finished code..or worse...thoughts in people's heads.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo0 points1 point  (13 children) | Copy

Do you know what money is? That shit DOES disappear if you invest in assets that are then devalued. if I buy 100 shares of stock at $1, and then the company shits the bed to the point the stock is only worth $.01, that money is GONE. I don't get my $.99 back as it's "sold to other busineses."

No that money isn't gone. You gave that money to somebody smarter than you that sold you shitty stock. Also, if the money "disappeared" so what? Money is just paper. What matters is goods and services and those don't disappear. If the equipment has value it can still be sold or transferred to another company.

Also I have no idea what argument you are making. There is no doubt that software companies come up with stupid ideas and bad code. Are you saying that nobody should ever try at all because some of it might be bad? Should everybody just be apple pickers because we don't want to risk people writing bad code or coming up with stupid ideas. It is clear that startups are a net benefit for the United States.

[–]1kick60 points1 point  (12 children) | Copy

No that money isn't gone. You gave that money to somebody smarter than you that sold you shitty stock. Also, if the money "disappeared" so what? Money is just paper.

What? First you say capital is money and assets, and then you turn around and say "oh money is just paper."

What matters is goods and services and those don't disappear. If the equipment has value it can still be sold or transferred to another company.

If a company goes tits-up the goods and services they produced/provided do, in fact, disappear. Tried dialing into compuserve lately? it's even worse with tech startups that may never have produced either a good or a service before they dissapear. And the assets....a few servers and workstations...aren't worth a damn thing.

Also I have no idea what argument you are making. There is no doubt that software companies come up with stupid ideas and bad code. Are you saying that nobody should ever try at all because some of it might be bad? Should everybody just be apple pickers because we don't want to risk people writing bad code or coming up with stupid ideas. It is clear that startups are a net benefit for the United States.

The argument I'm making it is that it's NOT clear that startups are a net benefit. You listing the few notable exceptions doesn't disprove that.

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[–]1TonyLaRocca-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's the whole point- is the individual an asset or a burden?

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

But why should legal immigration be easy?

Immigration, both legal and illegal, is the reason America is the strongest country in the world right now. We are literally stealling the best and brightest from every country in the world. Go to every major university in America and look at their engineering and science departments. They are all foreign. Which makes sense - we are literally getting the best people in the world to come here. Some of them go back, but most of them don't.

The people that criticize immigrants are mostly white trash that work at Target and have never accomplished shit in their life.

[–]1TonyLaRocca0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There is a difference between criticizing immigrants, and saying that the United States cannot logistically handle an influx of immigrants at the moment. Trying to lump together and insult anyone trying to make that point doesn't change its validity.

[–]long-lostfriend-2 points-1 points  (5 children) | Copy

If my nation wanted to give me the best life possible, it would stop taxing me altogether.

[–]jameygates1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

That would not give you the best life ever.... so dumb.

[–]long-lostfriend-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

It's the best thing the state could offer me. Go read Bastiat's The Law.

[–]jameygates1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I could also give you dozens of books advocating the opposite opinion. The fact is without taxes you don't have police officers, firemen, or any government at all.

Maybe you really believe that it's right and could argue forever, but don't act like what your saying is in any way obvious or common sense.

[–]long-lostfriend-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

You say that like it's a bad thing. You wouldn't have government. It does not logically follow that police and fire services would cease to exist.

[–]jameygates1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah just what we need, privitization of the entire enconomy.... let me know when you get your head out of the clouds, Ayn Rand.

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[–]jameygates-2 points-1 points  (3 children) | Copy

Shut up about 'democtacy' killing Socrates. Socrates chose death, he could have been exiled or freed the night before his death, however he chose to die. In no way did democracy kill him, you're just anti democratic, but don't try and rewrite history.

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[–]jameygates0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Dude. Read any Plato. They gave Socrates a choice of either exile or death and he chose death. His friend then offered to free him from prison the night before and he chose not to flee, because he believed in the immortality f the soul.

[–]Vivacleve0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

What do all the acronyms stand for such as BB TLDR?

[–]noobforlife0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

To the spergs in this post calling Trump a whiny woman. You are morons and are too stupid to see the forest for the trees. You like to outlogic and nitpick on his individual behavior without seeing the broader objectives and genius moves. You are morons precisely because you (willfully or not) fail to see the forest for the trees, either because you are unable to or choose not to.

He is leading a citizen's revolt and has revolutionized the election cycle. You see the "low-grade vocabulary" and "tantrums" only on a surface level and do not understand the motivation and tactics behind them. He has masterfully manipulated the media and the outraged liberals for his campaign's benefit. He will be the next POTUS and is genuinely a brilliant man.

[–]joaoluizsn0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

He indoctrinated her pretty well, or maybe...it's just love!

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the wife of probably the most red pill man on the planet

Men can be masculine while* being married. Not every married man is a weaksauce fuck.

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Those bashing Trump don't understand RP. Sad!

"Lets ignore Trumps policies and look at his effectiveness."

If that sentence pisses you off, you're not thinking RP. You're thinking with your emotions (like woman and children). Our goal is not to be moral, or "right", but to be effective. Only through being effective can we make the changes we want in the world.

"But I want to be a moral person. I don't want power."

If you are a moral person, you understand it's your duty to make the world a better place. Because you have the ability to gain power when others can't, you morally should. That way you can change the world for the better.

If you want to have any effect on the world, you'll first have to do what is most effective (in order to gain enough power) before you can change anything.

If you aren't a moral person, or understand that morality isn't black and white (most older RPers), then I don't have to convince you of the necessity of taking power.

Either way, effectiveness is essential. I'd even say it's at the core of RP.

Now let's look at Donald's effectiveness.

Here's an incredible breakdown by Charisma on Command on how Trump uses emotions (fear, anger, etc.) to influence his supporters. It also covers how Donald uses body posture, eye contact, ect. to dominate a stage.

Look at the way he uses sentence structure (commands, repetition, sentence endings), and speaks using only simple words. Boston Globe has a great article on how he uses a 4th grade speaking level to dig deep into people's brains. It's actually more difficult to only use small words when speaking. Finally, here's an incredible video, by someone who hates Trump, on how he only uses single syllable words and how incredibly difficult it is to use language at that level.

Lessons to be taken and learned:

Whether you like/agree with Trump or not, he is the most effective real world example of RP psychology we've seen in our lives. Hate or love him, swallow your pride and study a master. There's no greater way to learn.

[–]KhazarKhaganate-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

There's nothing RP about Donald Trump. He's a narcissist who speaks his mind, because he's a billionaire CEO with nothing to lose.

If you think Donald Trump is RP... Then you also think some ISIS terrorist is RP because he doesn't care what you think.

But can he pick up girls? Or is he more likely to take a sex slave?

Morality does fucking matter.

You're thinking with your emotions (like woman and children).

Only emotional people love Trump for his effectiveness or his charisma. His policies, trustworthiness, character, and morals are what matters.

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If she had married someone other than Trump, someone less masculine, I'm pretty sure she doesn't turn out like this.

This is called good upbringing combined with a good, strong man.

Melania for First Lady

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

she is a fucking sugar baby dude

[–]1rporion3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

No, she is among the best money can buy.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

yes that's what a sugar baby is

[–]KhazarKhaganate-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

She's a whore, who will rob trump if trump doesn't make her first lady.

You really think people marry someone 30 years older than them for the turn-ons?

No they marry for money and living the famous/fortune life.

Trump is ultimate Beta Bux. He's gotten divorced plenty of times before and robbed in divorce court because he's a cuck. Those children may not even be his.

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A lot lately I can't tell the difference between troll and ignorance.

Either trolls have gotten really good or men are more lost than I thought.

[–]T0000009-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think I want her to be First Lady even more than I want him to be President.

Getting a class act in the white house again would be nice.

[–]thenemaxofredpill-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah there was an article about how she really didn't say anything...well unless you consider facts saying something. And I posted a comment on the article stating that American women should use her as an example by not speaking much and supporting her husband without question because she is a woman who is married with kids to a billionaire. Tons of downvotes and how I am sexist and yada yada. Most were by bitch men.

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Thank you for posting this. A great argument I can use against my left family members who hate her and call her a hypocrite.



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