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Melania Trump, Red Pill Woman

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by null on /r/TheRedPill
25 February 2016 07:03 AM UTC
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I always thought of her as pure arm candy, to the extent that I thought of her at all. But just listen to what she has to say, as the wife of probably the most red pill man on the planet. The gal can sniff a loaded question and shut it down like nobody's business:

"Well, Melania, everyone knows your husband hates immigrants. Isn't it hypocritical that he married you?"

"I never thought to stay here without papers. I had a visa, I traveled every few months back to the country to Slovenia to stamp the visa. I came back, I applied for the green card, I applied for the citizenship later on after many years of green card. So I went by system, I went by the law. And you should do that, you should not just say let me stay here and whatever happens, happens.”

"Yeah, but you have to admit, it's pretty obvious that he hates Mexicans."

“He said illegal immigrants. He didn’t talk about everybody. He talked about illegal immigrants. And after a few weeks, like two weeks giving him a hard time and bashing him in the media, they turned around. They said, ‘You know what, he’s right. He’s right what he’s talking about.’ And he opened conversation that nobody did.”

"But he clearly hates women, right? You saw what he did to poor innocent Megyn Kelly."

“They’re treated equal. I see him in life, he treats women the same as men. He will tell you what is in his heart, what he thinks. He will not hold it back if you’re a woman, you’re human. If you’re a woman or a man, it’s no different, you’re human."

Just imagine an American woman talking this way. I think I want her to be First Lady even more than I want him to be President.



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620 upvotesVasiliyZaitzev3 years ago

"When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination." -- Thomas Sowell

69 upvotesredkick3 years ago

Funnily enough, I've seen feminists quoting that sentence to male beta bitches complaining about some irrelevant issue as well.

108 upvotesVasiliyZaitzev3 years ago

Feminists very often have a talent for unintentional irony.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

If we're living in a computer simulation, I'd like to think that feminists and SJWs are walking caricatures put here for us to learn from. It's like, "here are your life lessons in where things go wrong".

To protect the knowledge you could potentially gain from them, they damage you when you get close.

This concept was actually part of the reason I stopped playing video games. Why earn points in a game that means nothing when you can earn points IRL.

1 upvotesCorndog_Enthusiast3 years ago

Do you trip man? Just an innocent question, it seems like something I'd think about while tripping or under the influence of some drug or another.

1 upvotesCuilRunnings3 years ago

I don't believe you've ever seen a feminist quoting Thomas Sowell.

4 upvotesDiarrhea_Van_Frank3 years ago

One should not expect feminists to have any understanding of their sources.

2 upvotesredkick3 years ago

Unfortunately, this was on Twitter, where sources go to die.

20 upvotesKhazarKhaganate3 years ago

I don't understand... Trump did not treat Megyn Kelly as a man.

Trump treated her to insults, lied about his answer to her question, and then admitted to lying to her in the followup.

Then later went on TV and talked about her period, claiming it was hormones. He tried several times to get Megyn fired, that's not something I would do to a man who asked me a question about what I said in the past.

I never in my life, accused a man of his hormone levels when he asks me a question about something I said in the past.

Trump hates women, there's no question. If you look up the past things he's said to women, you'll find that he almost always focuses on visual aspects of women.

When I debate a man or have an argument, I don't go... "oh yeah? Well you're fat and ugly!" But that's what he does with women all the time. But when Trump argues with a man, he doesn't do that. He treats men as equals, and he treats women as inferior.

Melenia Trump is a whore. She's been bought by Trump to live the billionaire life. Melenia is a model.

Similarly, Trump's other divorced ex-wives cleaned him out, for the highest-paid divorces.

All the people that Trump marries, are whores and sluts (models mostly), who are only in that marriage, for fame, fortune, and gifts. Trump is the ultimate beta bux.

Did he develop some better ways to argue with people through negotiations? Sure... Just as any CEO does... Just as anyone who is over the age of 60, they stop giving a shit what other people think.

A narcissist like trump? Absolutely is going to be confused for an alpha. But no, he's the ultimate beta bux.

I don't know where TRP deludes itself into thinking he's alpha. There's nothing alpha or redpill about him.

He hasn't criticized SJWs... He hasn't criticized feminists... He hasn't done anything to deserve redpill praise.

He cannot even hold frame in a debate against Jeb Bush where he loses his cool and starts ranting at the audience for booing him. He has meltdowns constantly.

He constantly goes into the frame of other candidates who attack him and starts going into long tangents defending himself and not even making any sense sometimes...

3 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

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2 upvotesKhazarKhaganate3 years ago

He lies, he misrepresents his viewpoints, he dodges questions

That should be the end of your comment. There's nothing to respect about him.

You can't win a primary without doing that in today's political climate,

You can, if people weren't stupid enough to fall for it. So you're right.

, this idea that he only bullies women is untrue.

I didn't say he only bullies women. I said he bullies everyone, but definitely treats women as inferior. That's all I said.

He does that shit to everyone, not just women.

He does personally attack everyone. On reddit you personally attack, you get downvoted. Yet somehow Trump does it and gets praise on reddit. It's insanity.

He definitely hates women.

He didn't say anything about Jeb or Ron Paul's hormones or talk about his testicles or the fact that he's a man (mainly because men don't usually hate men for being men).

But yes, he does see women as inferior. You cannot deny that.

Look up his historical statements on women. You'll find some things he said, that no one would ever say to a man.

1 upvotesmormoncarebears3 years ago

Just because people here side with Trump on his political issues doesn't mean that he's not an alpha. He's definitely an alpha even as a narcissist. He's definitely sounded childish fighting back against political candidates on twitter, but did we watch the same Republican debates? There's a reason why Jeb isn't running no more.

Kanye breaks frame way too often going off on Twitter rants and yet people here still label him as Alpha. I don't see much of a difference in this case either.

113 upvotesnuesuh3 years ago

Treat a woman like a man: you hate women

Treat a woman different from a man: you're sexist

79 upvotescuntbh3 years ago

It's a giant shit test. If you treat them the way they deserve, try will test your frame by calling you a misogynist, and if you cave, you're not a true alpha, so not good breeding material. If you treat them better than they deserve, you're BB.

4 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

sooo... how do you treat them? or you don't? cause I don't and it's been working out just fine.

12 upvotescuntbh3 years ago

Mostly, I have an IDGaF attitude.
However, if I've noticed a woman for sexual reasons (ie: attractive and not sleeping with one of my friends), I'll make sure to pay attention to my interactions- kino, escalation and flirting, basic game.
If she's not someone I would sleep with (fucking a friend or ugly), I'll treat her the same as a man who brings the same amount to our social group. If she can cook, I'll eat her food and give honest feedback. If she cleans, I'll acknowledge it. If she says something actually intelligent or funny, I'll go catch the flying pig.

12 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Agreed. And a whiff of pro-feminist sympathies, no matter how hot she is (lol), is grounds for the hard next and quarantine. Feminist women are walking, talking potential false rape accusations/divorce rapists. Kill this blatantly misandrist movement by refusing to breed with it.

4 upvotesCornyHoosier3 years ago

I just shrug or say 'okay' and continue on with my life. Don't debate illogical people because you'll never win.

Why should I care if someone else is offended? Being "offended" at something may be the biggest waste of a person's time, as it has literally makes no impact on the world. It's like me walking into a room, announcing that I'm sad and then sitting and waiting for something to happen.

4 upvotesThelemaAndLouise3 years ago

interjecting, but if a woman calls you a misogynist, just laugh. or say, sure. or correct them one single time ("i don't hate anyone, it's bad for my liver"). you can't win the argument, because your opinion is invalid as a white cis male (or whatever epithet they latch onto)

a shit test is a big wave. you're a boat, so you float on top of the wave, just don't look ridiculous while you're floating on top of the water.

2 upvotesRedAsBlood3 years ago

Treat them like a bratty little sister.

Dont take anything they say too seriously and make fun of them in a light hearted way.

1 upvotesUniversalFapture3 years ago

Saving for future reference. I like how this lady busted those questions real quick

19 upvotesblacwidonsfw3 years ago

I went to a bar yesterday and me and 2 friends (women) go up to the bar and each order our respective drink. Afterwards he turns and says "so all on your tab?". I was like "Uh NO". It's like he put me in a default position to be a dick. Good thing I don't give a fuck.

-21 upvotesnuesuh3 years ago

I don't give a fuck

Which.... is why you thought about what he thought and how he behaived towards you, remembered the whole thing, and is telling it to a stranger on the internet.

Sure does sound like you don't give a fuck.

12 upvotesblacwidonsfw3 years ago

I don't give a fuck about feeling awkward in that situation. I still give a fuck about him pulling that move and tipped him less because of it. I don't really know what you are trying to prove with your comments though. For the record I never down voted you either, that was just popular consensus that you are acting like a little bitch.

1 upvotesnuesuh3 years ago

People just seem incapable of understanding the difference between "not caring" and "appearing not to care".

Everyday, you experience 1000's of things you don't give a shit about. These are things you see, hear and feel. But it's not something you remember 10 minutes later. It's not of any significance. These are things you don't care about.

What happend in that bar, with the bartender assuming you were paying.. That was something you cared about. This is why you thought about it and wrote a commen on reddit about it. You do care about it. If you didn't, you wouldn't even remember it happening.

11 upvotesDiarrhea_Van_Frank3 years ago

He doesn't give a fuck what you think either.

-10 upvotesnuesuh3 years ago

Which is why he disliked my comment. Because it doesn't affect him.

2 upvoteschaseemall3 years ago

This is the place for reflection and correction. He noticed his actions bared the hallmarks of IDGAF, and brought it here to show that it worked and how it worked. Mindsets like that don't work when you're consciously thinking about them in situ. They can only be reflected on and recalibrated after the fact

1 upvotesnuesuh3 years ago

He noticed he appeared to not give a fuck, and the affects it had on how other people percieved him.

Appearing not to give a fuck is not the same as not giving a fuck. Things you truly, don't give a single fuck about, is things you don't even register or remember 5 minutes later. Not something you internalise and write reddit comments about.

17 upvotesthenemaxofredpill3 years ago

Just study how Trump handles this shit test.

"Listen...I don't have time for all this PC nonsense. I'm trying to make America great again. Next question."

12 upvotescuntbh3 years ago

I don't know his policies very well- I understand the media portrayal of them, but the more I look into it, the more I see the negative skew that the media puts on them. As a man though, I have a lot of respect for Trump- he truly doesn't give a fuck about people's opinions of him, he lets his actions speak for him, and he's doing what he believes in.

He's a fantastic politician, so it would be nice if the reporters were as good journalists as he is a politician, because then I might actually know what he stands for.

12 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

I mean...

...if you're a dyed in the wool progressive, you're probably not going to like what he stands for. However, even people with progressive sympathies to the less fortunate (which I think even The Donald harbors) are seeing him as a wrench in the spokes of conventional politics.

Me? I like him because he's fucking impervious to the Left's traditional character assassinations. I read an article on BuzzFeed (some "communist" radfem on my Facebook shared it, and I was feeling particularly masochistic I guess) about how Donald Trump said mean things about women's appearances! Most of the things he said were on the Howard Stern show! The horror! Muh soggy knees! /s

If anyone's ever seen Howard Stern's show, you'd know that it's about sex. And to demonize someone because they're becoming the wildly popular Republican nominee for President of the United States they were judging women on their looks (newsflash: all men do this, and will do this, forever) on a television show about sex and all manner of fuckery is nothing special, and certainly isn't anything to demonize him about.

And people, even those nominally on the Left, are wising up to these tactics... and not favorably viewing them.

16 upvotesCornyHoosier3 years ago

I'm a liberal and I'm fascinated about the guy. If Sanders loses out to Clinton I'm definitely voting for Trump.

You're right though, Leftist identity politics is really starting to wear a lot of people down. At least, it's wearing me down.

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

I'm pretty left-wing and I quite like Trump. Don't get me wrong, I don't trust him and it's hilarious that anyone here thinks he actually gives a shit about anyone else at all or that he's at all qualified or capable of being the President, but I like how he just says whatever and doesn't really give a shit. I think a lot of people here want Trump to win because it'll somehow shut down the progressive left or something. It won't, Trump is a sign of people getting fed up with them, just let cultural change happen and eventually this shit will go away (hopefully, I don't actually know).

0 upvotesThelemaAndLouise3 years ago

(newsflash: all men do this, and will do this, forever)

and all women, perhaps even more harshly.

4 upvoteswaynebradysworld3 years ago

I spend like 2 hours per day researching politics, he is the best candidate by far.

2 upvotesCQC33 years ago

I don't follow politics at all. Is it true that the media horribly skews what Trump's policies and beliefs to be more sensationalist?

I've never really given a fuck as to who got elected, but the idea of this whole trend of identity politics in western culture and the strictest sense of egalitarianism no matter how impractical, and the ever growing disdain for being PC seems to have a lot of people rooting for him, and more doing it discreetly I imagine.

It ironically has become the PC thing to complain and say you hate Trump and think he's ridiculous, I think that is significant.

0 upvotesjames-watson3 years ago

If you're worth a few hundred million, sure he'll cut your taxes.

Everyone else? You're still cucked by the elites forcing you to pay for their cronies to go and steal oil from the middle east, while they monopolize every industry and hike prices all in the name of MUH FREE MARKET.

It never amazes me how people can be convinced to vote against their own self interest so reliably.

I think dudes are voting for Trump just because of what he says against the fucking Cultural Marxists, and not even looking at his policies. Trump is literally running for President to reduce his own taxes. The guy is a gangster, no doubt about it, but when you're paying for him to fuck you in the ass, that makes you a cuck.

12 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

I had someone call me a sexist the other day because I said Hillary Clinton should be held accountable for decisions made while Bill was president. Like, how is it sexist to assume that men listen to their wives? This whole sexism thing is rapidly approaching McCarthyism.

14 upvotesnuesuh3 years ago

I wouldn't say that is sexist, but it does seem unreasonable. Hillary should be held accountable for her decisions, not her husbands. Even if she did influence him.

-3 upvotesDiarrhea_Van_Frank3 years ago

I don't think anybody would really deny that Hilldawg was the one running the show during Slick's presidency.

2 upvotesIGoYouStayTwoAutumns3 years ago

Relevant: "Open the gate a little!"

1 upvotesnuesuh3 years ago

Actually is, remember seing that. pretty funny.

6 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Equal treatment where they want it, but they'll keep the parts where they get it better.

5 upvotesBadinBoarder3 years ago

"Chicks don't want everything, just the good parts of a guy's life. They look at a guy's life like it is a buffet where they can just pick and choose what they want"

-Bill Burr

3 upvotesNamkcalb3 years ago

Basically, it's this maxim on a societal level.

What's mine is mine and what's yours is ours

8 upvotesPrimaxAUS3 years ago

There was a study that proved this recently.

upvotes50 years ago

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15 upvotesThelemaAndLouise3 years ago

didn't realize i couldn't link to np reddit. here's a direct link to the study.

/u/PrimaxAUS, i did it right this time.

4 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

It's a student's thesis, too, not a study...

...but holy shit, the student is in college, and is a woman. A glimmer of hope springs?

3 upvotesThelemaAndLouise3 years ago

yeah, i can't find the original study, but it's mentioned in the thesis.

here's the text from the reddit post:

Two studies demonstrated that lay people misperceive the relationship between hostile sexism (HS) and benevolent sexism (BS) in men, but not in women. While men's endorsement of BS is viewed as a sign of a univalently positive attitude towards women, their rejection of BS is perceived as a sign of univalent sexist antipathy. Low BS men were judged as more hostile towards women than high BS men, suggesting that perceivers inferred that low BS men were indeed misogynists. Negative evaluations were reduced when men's rejection of BS was attributed to egalitarian values, supporting the hypothesis that ambiguity about the motivations for low BS in men was partially responsible for the attribution of hostile sexist attitudes to low BS men.

EDIT: and who knows if this is hopeful or not.

13 upvotesPrimaxAUS3 years ago

Just as meaningless as any other. I'm on mobile but I'll find it later.

7 upvotesdr_warlock3 years ago

Tl;dr people believe in 'benevolent sexism'. Treat women equal until it's negative, then give her preferential treatment (ie Chivalry).

0 upvotesBadinBoarder3 years ago

Ridiculous, treat them nice, you're a sexist that looks down on women. Treat them normal, you're a rude asshole who doesn't know how to treat a lady.

This is why chivalry is dead

2 upvotesJihadDerp3 years ago

Just go out in the real world and try it. Report back.

-1 upvotesIncangodess3 years ago

Dont bother linking it or anything

4 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Crazy, I literally went to type those exact words when I finished reading. Great minds think alike lol.

1 upvotesThelemaAndLouise3 years ago

it's been my whole life, and i'm over 30.

1 upvotesIronMeltsinmyHands3 years ago

But treating women differently than you treat men is also going to get you branded as a misogynist.

1 upvotessirmadam3 years ago

I am now back on a probationary period partly because I treat the only other woman in the company the same way I treat the men. It's such bullshit.

2 upvotesDiarrhea_Van_Frank3 years ago

You have to play by office politics when you're in the workplace. That's just how it goes.

1 upvotesmasnera3 years ago

Very true...very very true. And consider your office mates to be fickle..man or woman alike.

1 upvotessirmadam3 years ago

I just need to decide how long to stick it out for. Currently saving 85% of my salary ready to start my own business.

1 upvotesrporion3 years ago

Do it.

I am not gonna lie, there might be some nights in your future when you cannot sleep because you gotta pay rent, or wages or whatnot and your customers will, mostly, pay eventually but your expenses are due NOW and so further and so on, but God, at least, you can keep the BS in your life to a minimum.

0 upvotessirmadam3 years ago

It's going to happen. I just need to decide if it happens in 3 months or 6. That decision could get made for me. But the ideal is my boss tells me he wants to keep me on in 6 months and I hand him my notice with a shit eating grin.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

It is misogynistic to treat women like men. Men are treated like shit.

1 upvotesBadinBoarder3 years ago

Yep, it's why i had to get off Facebook. Too many ppl defending women at any cost. I wouldn't even say anything about women, but they would bring up women and say i was disrespecting them.

The irony is they would say women are equal and don't need to be protected by men, but then they would defend them and bash me. Such glorious White Knights.

0 upvotesRedSugarPill3 years ago

These days are almost over.

0 upvotesPrinceofSpades3 years ago

We at TRP should be thankful for feminism; it made the line between alpha and beta role all the more clear. Sure, we dislike 3rd wave feminism and the chicks yelling out shit like "kill all the men!" But the average woman hates those people too. Equality is great for us; unfortunately, the laws don't operate that way and give huge favor swings to women, and I think that's what we really hate and are often the most pissed off about.

If you want equality, don't be afraid to take on all the responsibility that comes with it.

352 upvotesredpillbanana3 years ago

"I never thought to stay here without papers. I had a visa, I traveled every few months back to the country to Slovenia to stamp the visa. I came back, I applied for the green card, I applied for the citizenship later on after many years of green card. So I went by system, I went by the law. And you should do that, you should not just say let me stay here and whatever happens, happens.”

Some of the biggest critics of illegal immigrants are legal immigrants.

291 upvotesAlpacash3 years ago

Because it's unfair. Imagine you move to another country, do all the paperwork, pay taxes and wait for the citizenship then a bunch of freeloaders cross the border illegally and demand the same rights you have.

105 upvotesCQC33 years ago

That's true. Not to mention it's typically a different mentality. A lot of people who come here illegally simply just don't give a fuck to even adapt to the culture or even learn the language. Especially in places with high concentrations of a particular type of minority, they can just go on and...just not know fucking anything. They'll just pretend their city is like mini-wherever the fuck they came from.

And you've got all these dumb fucks crying about how you need to let everyone in and how America was founded on immigrants and we're better than that, bitch what the fuck? Do you even know how this shit works? I don't. But I sure as shit know that letting an unmitigated flow of illegals who don't give a shit about the nice thing ya got goin on here and just want a piece, won't contribute, and that's probably not going to be good for you.

But hey, I do see some other sides of it. I'm sure some guy out there is just looking out for his family and lives in some shit country that's got real, actual problems, and he's just doing whatever he can to survive. If that means getting here illegally, being unethical is better than letting your family starve or die.

55 upvotesTuesdayRB3 years ago

America was founded on immigrants

What they don't mention is that those immigrants were treated like crap. A century ago, when some guy from Ireland or China immigrated, they were strongly incentivized to stop being Irish or Chinese and start being American.

Hazing, which is basically what used to happen on a national level, often serves a legitimate purpose. It strengthens group cohesion and reinforces the dominant group culture.

5 upvotesbluedrygrass3 years ago

Back then, immigrants were kept in quarantine for 40 days. We're talking about Italian migrants and the likes. Imagine even suggesting quarantining today's immigrants

9 upvotesTuesdayRB3 years ago

Today, we can't even quarantine people who pose a risk of bringing Ebola into the country. The US and Europe has forgotten the most basic lessons of civilization.

Not every country, though.

17 upvotesmaxio993 years ago

It strengthens group cohesion and reinforces the dominant group culture.

No it doesn't . For someone who was born in Europe and live in many european countries I can tell you what it does it's assimilate whole groups of peoples for generations . Do you know why in Europe there is constant threat of terrorist attacks and it is usually done by not someone who just arrived but someone who was born there ? Because they cannot assimilate with rest of the society . Doesn't matter how much you try . Thats why there are Turkish "ghettos" Germany , African in France .

36 upvoteskick63 years ago

It depends on the disparity between the host culture and the origin culture. That's REALLY what puts the lie to "America was founded on immigrants." America was founded on christian, western european immigrants who were similar enough in culture that they could assimilate.

The current crop of immigrants...not so much. The situation in Europe with the recent influx of savages is far worse, too.

3 upvotesalpha_n3rd3 years ago

well if it's anything like the USA eventually those neighborhoods will gentrify and disappear.

1 upvotesTuesdayRB3 years ago

I'm not sure what you mean. In Europe, people were allowed to immigrate but not assimilate. The anti-immigrant hazing that I mention didn't happen, and multiculturalism was tried instead.

The chaos and violence Europe is seeing now is the inevitable result of that strategy.

1 upvotesSdom13 years ago

Look, socialists tend to be stupid. If they were smart, they wouldn't have to rig the game. The Europeans thought they could just be like the USA without acknowledging the fundamental ways the US is different from Europe as well as some uncomfortable points about mixing cultures and races; namely that it can be done, but who you're forcing to live together matters.

Islam has an unbroken history of subjugating and destroying the cultures unfortunate enough to border it. The ONLY reason that has stopped lately is because they ran into opponents too strong to conquer. But things change, and they do seize opportunities. And they never give back ground. Hell, look at the trouble they've caused over the Jews taking back a tiny patch of the land they've stolen over the centuries.

-3 upvotesPhoenix_20153 years ago

That's not what hazing is. What you're talking about is xenophobia and racism.

Besides a lot of these immigrants are coming from places with a much more red pill culture than modern US culture. I can see why a lot of them would be slow to assimilate.

1 upvotesTuesdayRB3 years ago

It served the function of hazing, and was a successful method of resisting the poison of multiculturalism.

The racism and discrimination that nearly every immigrant experienced in the 1800s and early 1900s was successful at convincing them to abandon their old cultural identity.

27 upvotesoccupythekitchen3 years ago

My dad when he bankrupted in Brazil knew he was going to the u.s.

When we got there he lived as far as he could from other Brazilians refused to get international cable and we played with only American kids. In 6 months my brothers and I spoke English, I really should say understood our accents were awful. The other kids from Latin america hated us because the only kid that was close to our English was the Korean kid. There was also the fact we are white and blond so we were accepted by the kids as one of them. I think the Brazilian kid closest to our age only had a decent English 3 years after getting here. I'm not going to lie I had a terrible accent those first 2 years but it faded.

I remember my brother and I watching u.s. television with a dictionary looking up words we didn't know. When our English really took off we stopped using English to Portuguese and only used English dictionaries. Thankfully 15 years later we are lawful residents but it was a tough battle because a lot of illegals refuse to adopt the culture and language and they don't deserve it.

Hell 7 out of 10 illegal immigrants want to make money and go back home, not stay

My desire is see the u.s. stop illegal immigration and allow more legal immigrants yearly. If it wasn't for illegal the u.s. could give much more than 100k green cards a year

9 upvotesSdom13 years ago

Hell 7 out of 10 illegal immigrants want to make money and go back home, not stay

Yes, which is why it's hilarious when politicians say illegals will never self-deport. They already have by the millions several times. You cut off the money, and there's no reason to stay.

2 upvotesoccupythekitchen3 years ago

The problem is they get greedy they start with I'm going to save money for a year and buy a house and go back. Then they want to get a rental property, then they want to have the same comfort they enjoy in the u.s. so the more time they spend here the more ambitious they become.

I'm not trying to brag but my family was in the 1% of Brazil so when we bankrupted my dad was ready to leave Brazil and call the u.s. home and my mom with him. Other immigrants wanted to take advantage of the prosperity of the u.s. temporarily but after years here they realize they won't have the same quality of life there nor be able to keep their profession with the same revenue so they push it back.

They were never invested to immigrate they only wanted to take advantage of the economic disparity between both countries mostly the dollar stability

9 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Do you even know how this shit works?

You know what infuriates me more than anything? The Left stacks universities and media institutions and public schools with nothing but their ilk. They'll whip out Marxist class criticisms and just lay into how "our culture" promotes this or that Bad™ thing...

...but the minute the Right starts talking about the importance of culture in society, they freak out about it. The Left wants our culture to be absolutely libertine and absolutely cooperative, and that's bullshit. I'm a Libertarian through and through, but if your "lifestyle choice" ends up being "I'm going to do shit-tons of drugs and have unprotected sex with anything that moves and then depend on the rest of you to keep me fed, housed, and comfortable" no, fuck you, I reserve the right to shame you as the degenerate anchor on social advancement that you are!

Oh but then I'm being mean, and the Left isn't mean. Except to those filthy conservatives, who argue that the family unit is important to maintain the integrity of the fabric of society, who argue that merit and hard work should be judged positively, who argue that humans inherently possess and deserve the freedom to make their own choices. To say I've departed from the Left is a gross understatement, it's legitimately difficult for me to take people who espouse left-wing politics seriously anymore. These people fucking believe in a fairy tale, a reality that simply does not exist.

To think we can have these lavish social programs while requiring no "skin in the game" is fucking the dumbest idea I have ever fucking heard. To hear these morons legitimately argue that "we're obligated" to let people from a region of the world that has harbored unrepentant, violent, medieval and religiously-motivated hatred for us is goddamned infuriating.

We've built this world-class culture, a society that still, today, in it's obvious and inexorable decline (squarely because of leftist bullshit) remains the envy of the world... and we're supposed to just give it to these people? Good fucking God, no! It took blood, sweat, and tears to build this! It TAKES blood, sweat, and tears to maintain it!

You get to bleed, to sweat, and to cry to be a part of it! I don't think that's asking much!

6 upvotes-Tepes3 years ago

After swallowing the redpill you want anybody to adapt this bluepill beta century old colonial hogwash sold as "culture", why would people with thousands of years of their own culture and history adapt american culture? that was the mistake in the first place, the american immigration is purely economical immigration, mass migration is man made forced migration, these people don't give a crap about you, me or anybody, and they should not, they would rather stay where they were if they could sustain their lifestyle..this is politics a larger global game beyond your understanding..one needs to understand history, and many other things to get what part mass migration is meant to play. immigration is least of your problems, trump is just distraction...

2 upvotesWaxSimulacra3 years ago

It benefits you to assimilate the culture. No one is saying you have to forget your heritage but you're here to better your life else you would have stayed where you were.

1 upvotesSdom13 years ago

It's not beyond your understanding, you just have to understand that politics are motivated by simple, venal desires - namely, power and resources. That's it. Everything else is rationalization and justification.

8 upvotesmarplaneit3 years ago

The thing is people starving in africa, don't have the money to go to US to work. It also has to do with culture, as my parens were legal inmigrants doing their PhDs in US and having some inmigrants a Friends I call tell you the thruth.

The grand mayority of legal inmigrant add value to US, but your tipical mexican are shitting US. Parents don't have power over their american kids, cause they are illegal, they get ass raped if they apply discipline to them. Add to that, they only hang around among them, and they are punk as hell. (I've living in argentina now for more than a decade, and I Laugh my ass off to wannabe gangster in US, bitch pls your 110 pounds mexican ass wouldn't survive a month here with that actitude)

I did 1 year of hich school in US, and these kids thought it was tough to break a car's window or smoke marihuana... lol WTF? Try to break someone's window in Argentina, you will get your ass beaten fucking hard.

2 upvotesAgisIII3 years ago

Argentinian here. Where do you live?

2 upvotesCornyHoosier3 years ago

I did 1 year of hich school in US, and these kids thought it was tough to break a car's window or smoke marihuana... lol WTF? Try to break someone's window in Argentina, you will get your ass beaten fucking hard.

America is pretty diverse. Sounds like you went to a tame high school. Hell, my high school was full of country rednecks, but you'd get your ass whooped wholesale if you fucked with another students truck.

I remember the vice principle would "accidentally" inform a student that the police were coming by to check for weapons and drugs, and then word would get around. Almost every male student had a shotgun or rifle in his vehicle so they would have had to arrest most of the student body.

2 upvotesmarplaneit3 years ago

I have a question.

How can the 90% of the student body carry weapons safely? I mean, i'm pretty sure there would be a shooting at least once a year...

16's full of hormones trying to look badass for every single teen whore, and with shotguns. I mean any regular teen fist fight, could easily escalate up to a shooting.

1 upvotesrrealnigga3 years ago

I lost track of what you were trying you say

2 upvotesslimcoat3 years ago

America was founded on immigrants

I always point out that America was founded by colonists, which is quite different. Takes a whole lot more guts to sail across an ocean in a wooden ship to a land that nobody knows much about.

1 upvotesboatdrinks3 years ago

I agree with your point and I'll take the opportunity to suggest to all red pillers to never agree with the statement that America was found by immigrants. No, it wasn't. America was founded by settlers. There is a difference and it refutes their argument to allow anyone to come into the country.

7 upvotesB_uckets3 years ago

Exactly. The process is insanely stressful, time-consuming and expensive if you're just trying to immigrate legally on your own (not via marriage). It's also downright idiotic who they choose to accept and deny.

I have a friend who's a well-educated, gifted pianist (Masters + Ph.D. in piano performance from U.S. universities, plays recitals all over the world, performs with well-known orchestras, etc.) and she still can't even get a green card. The U.S. should be begging people like her to come here, but instead she's still trying to save up the $10,000+ a good immigration lawyer will cost.

2 upvotes_Madison_3 years ago

Add to that giving illegals citizenship will encourage a much bigger second wave over the border so the problem won't even be solved having an amnesty.

2 upvotesalpha_n3rd3 years ago

The freeloaders are the employers that hire them and don't withhold taxes. And frankly all of us who like cheap lettuce.

If we just enforced the existing employment law; hire illegals, go to jail; there wouldn't be any jobs for illegals, they wouldn't come, and nobody would be talking about a fucking wall.

1 upvotesLoneStarG843 years ago

And frankly all of us who like cheap lettuce.

Only 3-4% of illegals work in farming. Like the "wage gap", this is a tired old myth that needs to die.

2 upvotesalpha_n3rd3 years ago

You missed the point. Their industry is irrelevent. I used farming as an example.

The point is that people like to hire illegals as cheap unregulated labor and the government is complicit in that it has defacto legalized the practice by not enforcing the employment laws we already have on the books.

If you remove the market for cheap unregulated labor, by enforcing the laws, by throwing violators in jail, the illegals will have no reason to come or stay because there won't be anymore jobs for them.

Of course this would cause a slight rise in consumer prices, and a slight drop in corporate profits, which is why it hasn't happened and instead everybody talks about a god damned stupid wall.

Of course it would be offset by a rise in consumer earnings, due to better employment and higher wages, and in the end it would be better for most Americans.

I look forward to the circus when trump builds his wall and the mexicans keep coming. At least it won't be boring.

3 upvotesLoneStarG843 years ago

I agree with almost all of that, and I'm not suggesting you think all illegals pick lettuce. But many people use that argument: "Well if we get rid of illegals, there won't be anybody to pick lettuce!", and that's such a red herring and pisses me off. They're basically admitting they're in favor of a permanent cheap labor "underclass" in the USA.

Maybe the wall works, maybe it doesn't. But I don't think that's the only facet of a potential President Trump's immigration policy.

1 upvotesjuliusstreicher3 years ago

Yep, and, on top of that, YOU pay all of their expenses!

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1 upvotesSdom13 years ago

You give us work, you give us ITINs, you allow us to rent using the ITIN, you won't allow us to buy though! You'll also not allow us to start a business. You make damn sure we pay our taxes but you do not give us any benefits the rest of the tax payers get.

BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO FUCKING BE HERE!!!! You do not have the right to live wherever the fuck you want. The fact is that the only reason you can get an ITIN is because corrupt business interests have bribed the government into this compromise. And really what they have done is to load part of their wage cost onto the taxpayer who then borrows that money, so believe me, I agree with you that it's shitty and exploitative and needs to stop. But that doesn't mean we just confer citizenship upon people whose first act in this country was a form of fraud. That means they're going home.

And one anecdote doesn't mean most illegals don't get free health care. They do. Or they go to a surgical center like the one in Oklahoma and pay a reasonable amount of cash. If you weren't smart enough to exploit that, that's on you.

As for the taxes, let's just say I had a job where I dealt with a lot of illegals, and many if not most work under the table for cash.

And yes, using a stolen or borrowed social security number is a felony. IT'S FUCKING FRAUD! I.e. profit by deception. I would be charged with a felony for that as well. Though of course your first act was to be here without permission, so it seems this might just be a blind spot.

And let's face another fact - you can buy property, you just can't take out a mortgage. Again, because you're not supposed to be here.

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-4 upvotesSdom13 years ago

Bible belt? Nope. And if you bothered to read what I wrote, I agree that the current system is exploitative and set up for the benefit of a privileged few, and the illegals. For all you bitch about them being exploited, it must be better than whatever alternative they have, or they wouldn't be here. Therefore they benefit. Plus their kids get to steal a citizenship and then they bring their family over. So yeah, it's a huge benefit.

Here's the problem with your analysis; most people don't benefit. Are prices lower on some things? Sure. But the public resources consumed by illegals and their children far, far outweigh any taxes or economic benefit, but people don't realize that because the government is paying for it with borrowed money.

It's like living on credit cards and thinking everything is great. Sure it is, right now at least.

23 upvotespdpbigbang3 years ago

Because legal ones pay their dues while illegal ones take advantage of the system.

11 upvotesbattleof_lissa3 years ago

I live in Los Angeles and I'm Mexican. About 50% of my family are illegal immigrants. They all talk shit about America and anyone who doesn't speak Spanish, they all sing the praises of Mexico but refuse to live there. When asked if any one else should be "allowed in," like Chinese or Syrians, they will say no way, "because they are not immigrants like us."

My family is a bunch of racist fucks who should be beaten with a stick. Even I say send them back.

7 upvotesa_chill_bro3 years ago

As a legal immigrant and now U.S. citizen I will vouch for that. Migrating legally requires work. Paperwork, paying fees and a lot of waiting. I personally have no sympathy for someone who has cheated and broken the law. You want to get into America? Start by following its fucking laws.

6 upvotesblacwidonsfw3 years ago

My parents migrated legally after being on a wait list for like 15 years. My dad is a hardcore republican and whenever anyone gives him shit he's like "I did it the right way so they should too". Absolutely correct.

4 upvotesB_Campbell3 years ago

Yeah. I'm sure she's had the same experience and treatment as all the other immigrants.

2 upvotesbnine_3 years ago

Exactly this. Went through that process of paperwork to study in European country, waited for 5 months for visa. Not to say i had to pay for my studies and everything thus investing into country's economy. After all that i got treated worse than a refuge by the government.

2 upvotes420ftwin3 years ago

They are. And they are right. Just ask any international student who comes to US to study. Despite doing well, getting a job in a major corporation and showing the potential to contribute to the US economy (and not just leeching off welfare money), they still have to wait for H1B visa which is like bloody lottery system.

2 upvotesalphabeta493 years ago

Its the same reason I have a hard time not blowing a gasket when someone changes lanes without signaling first.

2 upvotesrrealnigga3 years ago

Yupp, because they tarnish the image of ALL immigrants and because you don't want the same shit you escaped from to follow you to your new place.

2 upvotesgodiebiel3 years ago

And this is why Trump wins even among latinos.

-2 upvotesWoujo3 years ago

Some of the biggest critics of illegal immigrants are legal immigrants.

And the rest of them are rednecks who watch too much Fox News.

140 upvotesObservantOmega3 years ago

Compared to Bill, yeah she'll be the better choice for the first lady.

110 upvoteskick63 years ago

the more important thing to note is what passes as journalism these days. That wasn't supposed to be an interview, it was supposed to be a crucifixion.

37 upvotesalpha_n3rd3 years ago

Or it was carefully crafted to make it LOOK like she was SUPPOSED to be crucified and instead came out on top.

7 upvoteskick63 years ago

fair point. Considering it wasn't fox, I doubt it.

29 upvotesCarpeaux3 years ago

You're a little behind the times. FOX is together with the Republican Establishment, and Trump is their greatest enemy.

Look at this: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/431858/donald-trump-2016-campaign-must-be-stopped

Read the comments. Republicans want Trump, but the Republican Party wants anything but, and their lackies are working overtime to try and change the tide.

3 upvoteskick63 years ago

Fair, but Fox is more likely to give Mrs. Trump a pass than, say, CNN.

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I disagree. People hate those who are most similar to them.

That's why Bernie and Hillary have faced much more aggressive attacks from BLM protestors.

It's why Fox, the "establishment," and National Review has crucified Trump for months.

And when it comes to rape accusations, it's why Betas get many more false rape charges than Alphas.

1 upvotesdocbloodmoney3 years ago

6 million of one, half a dozen million of the other. They are both run by america-hating jews

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Mika Brzezinski, the interviewer works for MSNBC but Trump supporters love her because she's one of the few who analyzes Trump's positions objectively. She has received attacks from liberal media for this, claiming she's pals with Trump. If true, the comment you replied to could be right.

2 upvotesOpanion3 years ago

Fun fact, she is Zbigniew's daughter

1 upvotesalpha_n3rd3 years ago

Alternatively maybe they didn't want to be seen going easier on her. Colbert always asks Bernie tough questions.

1 upvoteskick63 years ago

A comedian asks tough questions?

1 upvotesalpha_n3rd3 years ago

Considering it's supposedly friendly turf, yeah. He puts Bernie on the spot. "Isn't that class warfare?" comes to mind. Videos are probably online if you want to see for yourself.

3 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

I disagree. Mica is a democrat, but she's been highly supportive of Trump, to the degree that both her and Joe have faced heavy criticism for "preferential treatment."

Both Mica and Joe strive for "tough but fair." If this was a hit job, she wouldn't have given Melania so much time to respond to each question.

When you ask someone hard questions, but give them time to respond, you steal the wind out of those questions. Now no one can say that Mica hasn't asked the hard questions, and no one can say that Melania hasn't answered them.

Tl;DR Compared to the rest of the media, Joe and Mica give the most balanced American television journalism in the country.

2 upvotesnoobforlife3 years ago

Naw Mika likes the Trumps. Melania knew the questions were coming beforehand and Mika has to pander to not look like shes favoring them. If you watch Morning Joe they predicted Trump's success months before while everyone was still laughing.

-1 upvotesWoujo3 years ago

the more important thing to note is what passes as journalism these days. That wasn't supposed to be an interview, it was supposed to be a crucifixion.

That's what journalism SHOULD be. They should ask hard questions. The media is treating Trump too softly because they like him.

2 upvoteskick63 years ago

uwot? The media likes Trump? The media HATES Trump. The people like Trump.

-3 upvotesWoujo3 years ago

Lord, how naive you are. The only reason the "people" supposedly like Trump is because the media keeps shoving Trump down their throats. If the media hated Trump nobody would even know who he was. The media can make people disappear from the national consciousness but they have chosen to not do that with Trump. I can't believe anybody would be so naive as to buy Trump's bullshit "boo hoo hoo" the media hates me bullshit. I mean, the fucking media gave him his own TV show that lasted 8 seasons!!!

Remember when Trump said he wouldn't do the Fox interview and he was going to have his own campaign event in Iowa instead? And remember when CNN covered it and made it a special? CNN gave Trump a free hour and a half fucking commercial for his campaign. That's crazy. The media loves him because he is crazy, entertaining, a narcissist and easily controlled.

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19 upvotes-TempestofChaos-3 years ago

It's only sexist if others do it.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Granted it is a really, really fucking weird picture.

Not that it would stop people from finding ways to attack their relationship however even if it looked flawless.

45 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

I fail to see what a woman's opinion on illegal immigrants has anything to do with TRP, even if said women was married to Donald Trump.

Guess who else parroted the opinions of her husband, during the election even the midst a sex scandal? Hillary Rodham Clinton.

15 upvotes-Tepes3 years ago

I fail to see what a woman's opinion on illegal immigrants has anything to do with TRP, even if said women was married to Donald Trump.

Exactly, Last person you ought to trust is a Politician in a Western Country, And a Female Politician, Please... There is an Agenda an Political Agenda to this entire thread, nothing more then one fox news listening american trying to lure others whom are deluded to dance towards the pipers tune. Redpill woman, Ask her of how many cocks shes had..nope, this is the Devils Daughter, The Female Dark Tritard..A poster child leader of the feminist whores to be, a refined actor, to Hillery.

TRP Exists, yet most TRPillers haven't Digested the Pill, and carry even lower knowledge or understanding of history, politics, society, and the world around them, and cant get past their "ra ra nationalism" of a land they think the world did not exist before or wont after..

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-6 upvotes-Tepes3 years ago

Quite Assuming, European is not a Race, its a large continent, more so Eurasia.. with various races, various I mind you, languages, histories, and divisions and alliances, there are barbarian tribes and civilized ones. And this mass migration agenda, race mixing, and uprooting agenda is thanks to uncle sam .made through uncle sams nato wars) all of which today are run from the beehive in NA. Its a long shoot but its a crap shoot..funny enough US/Uncle Sam itself is in turn also host of all other rubbish as modern day feminist hogwash, and the media glorification of whores and thugs (criminal minorities) that seeps not just into europe but every nation.

You would be better sir to actually study on Socrates, Plato and Xenophon and their defiance to the tyranny and savagery brought to you by Democracy, Greatest Greek Minds as them were killed because they opposed it, as did Aristotle..opposed the empowerment of women beyond their evolutionary model. Then again sir, I am no greek, but mearly from a race whom had conqured the greeks.

3 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Socrates, Plato, and Xenophon all were against democracy? What form of government did they prefer?

3 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

If i am not mistaken many greek philosophers preferred rule by a select elite.

1 upvotes-Tepes3 years ago

See, this is the stuff you would never know unless you did some reading, All you will hear is This is the Bad Guy, That is the Good Guy.

Yes Socrates was a Strong Opposition of Democracy, So was his Students Plato, and Xenophon, who actually preferred the Persian Empires Monarchy that had abolished slavery across the civilized world while Arabs & Greeks..well still busy in Tribal Mentality among Kingdoms, this was when Rome was still just a hill top town in Italy.

Ever Hear of the 30 Tyrants Led by Socrates, Creatos, Plato, Xenephone who Overthrew the Greek Democracy? which was but a primitive enslavement tactic of a few elite tribes over conquered tribes,

Socrates was Put to Death Because of his Opposition, While You had likes of Hiraculas (Father of history openly living within Persian Empires Territories and allowed to go on criticizing their Rule which expanded later for centuries into Greece.

Allegory of the Cave by Plato, Google it, some good videos to explain what they thought, VERY RED PILL Stuff.

3 upvotesjameygates3 years ago

Aristotle also believe that there were only four elements, so what is your point? Why is he the authority..?

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5 upvotesrugratsallthrowedup3 years ago

Well duh. When you're fucking the literally most powerful man in the world, you don't contradict, you don't say shit, you keep that money and power train rolling

4 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

You do know I'm talking about his 1992 for president where he was accused of bedding one Gennifer Flowers, not his re-election right? Hillary went on TV with Bill and defended against those allegations.

3 upvoteslarrythetomato3 years ago

I fail to see what a woman's opinion on illegal immigrants has anything to do with TRP, even if said women was married to Donald Trump.

Assuming what you said is literal (over the internet I can't tell whether this is a sarcastic jest). Read this article. The gist of it is that arguments in the public arena are based off absolute morality, and relative truth (as opposed to relative morality and absolute truth). Thus the goal of an argument is to find any single character flaw in the opponent. If you can, since morality is absolute, you are able to dismiss all the arguments of that person as evil (if you have any character flaw, you are evil and everything you say is false).

This is why you will notice that the Mainstream Media is all about jumping around trying to discredit your opponent (instead of trying to actually figure out what happened).

And as a bonus, this is why the SJW crowd is all about calling the opposition racist/sexist/misogynistic/hypocritical/rapist. Once you can discredit the opponent you win. Ironically when they claim you raped someone and you reply "I can't because I was literally in a different country". You don't actually win because you proved the fact that it didn't happen. You won because you showed that the other person is a liar, and liars are evil, therefore everything they say is dismissed. The truth of the matter is not important.

15 upvotesClarkelol3 years ago

I don't see what I'm meant to be looking at here?

20 upvotesEarthExile3 years ago

The idea is that Trump's wife is loyal and speaks straight to the point, while apparently not indulging in any excuses or games. "This is what it is. This is what I think. These are the facts."

2 upvotesCaCacanada3 years ago

What else was she going to say in this situation?

10 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Bullshit and fluff? Like 98% of the media?

-1 upvotesCaCacanada3 years ago

That wouldn't benefit her in this situation. She said nothing special here.

9 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

It's more so how well she sticks with her husband. The idea of a redpill woman is essentially one who sticks by you through thick and thin and respects the things you do and say. She supports him fully and does nothing but raise Trump. This is a deep contrast to the majority of women we meet in the West today, which is the point of this post.

Having her as a first lady could greatly benefit the country

1 upvotesChadThundercockII3 years ago

Have you heard of the Seth Rogen fiasco with Return of Kings writer Mike Cernovich ? Check it out and you'll will understand.

-8 upvotesClarkelol3 years ago

All she is doing is answering these questions with facts. I didn't realise objective truths = being a red piller.

28 upvotesdongpal3 years ago

you see how low the standards for women are?

-8 upvotesClarkelol3 years ago

Sorry, I don't understand the point you're trying to make?

9 upvotesLazyMagus3 years ago

Let me explain this slowly and clearly: he says that now-a-days women get away with dishonesty so much that being an honest woman is a rarity. It is possibly something that is inspired by Red Pill mentality.

4 upvoteskick63 years ago

Considering everyone else is more worried about consensus and feelz, objective truth kinda is being a red piller.

0 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Agreed. Nothing Red Pill about this shit. Now that the community is growing, I suspect there are some paid promotional activities taking place here. Like "New movie XYZ promotes the carousel". There have been many before and there will be many after. Who fucking cares.

2 upvotesRedSovereign3 years ago

Promotions are explicitly prohibited in this sub, barring the few from established members of the community. If you see any signs of this use the Report feature. Thanks.

1 upvotesSementeries3 years ago

who fucking cares

Apparently you do if you took the time to not only read it, but comment on it aswell.

0 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Like "New movie XYZ promotes the carousel". There have been many before and there will be many after. Who fucking cares.

Not sure if trolling but I'm not on the movie thread.

1 upvotesKhazarKhaganate3 years ago

Nothing just more circlejerking from more conservative retarded TRPers who have failed to actually understand what TRP concepts and principles are.

They think beta bux trump is RP... It's hilarious.

9 upvotesjuanlee3373 years ago

i failed to see the point of this post..

2 upvotesWoujo3 years ago

There are a lot of morons on this site that get easily fooled into thinking that certain people are "alpha." Donald Trump is not alpha. He is a media creation who has actually failed pretty badly in his business life. The media found a narcissistic douchebag that is mentally unstable and entertaining and they made him famous for the same reason they made Kim Kardashian famous.

5 upvotesjuanlee3373 years ago

I still dont see your point. what your definition of success? This guy is worth at least 1 billion dollars with 3 corporate bankruptcies, in which he played the system so his personal wealth didn't get touched during asset forfeiture. You may think he is stupid but they fact that he had investors invest few billion dollar on his idea without having to leverage much of his wealth is fucking genius. I can't even get 10 bucks from my family. shit please.. Sure he may not be alpha.. but he damn sure ain't stupid as you make it seem

-1 upvotesWoujo3 years ago

This guy is worth at least 1 billion dollars with 3 corporate bankruptcies, in which he played the system so his personal wealth didn't get touched during asset forfeiture.

I don't believe he has 1 billion dollars. Also a lot of his businesses have been scams to take money from investors who are impressed with the Trump name. I actually worked on a case involving investors suing the Trump organization (which was not connected to Donald Trump except in name) for being scammed out of their money. I'm impressed with Trump's wealth the same way I am impressed with Kim Kardashian's wealth.

1 upvotesnoobforlife3 years ago

Yeah like some of the mods and ECs, total bluepills. A lot of the mods and ECs for TRP are also mods on the_donald sub. Rollo Tomassi is a Trump supporter. Chateau Heartiste is obviously pro Trump.

You've learned nothing from TRP if you honestly think this way.

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1 upvotesWoujo3 years ago

He's probably not a billionaire. There is no evidence he has as much money as he says he does. he doesn't own any of those buildings and he has gone bankrupt many times in his life.

I actually worked as a lawyer one one of Trump's projects. He is just a name that organizations use to sell their product.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

He makes of lot of his money from licensing. You got some real hatred for Trump. He definitely can handle debates and conversations like an alpha.

1 upvotesWoujo3 years ago

He is a scam artist. He pretends he owns buildings when he doesn't. And the people who do own those buildings scam investors out of money. He is a media created clown. He is the same as Kim Kardashian. I admire Kim Kardashian for the same reasons as I admire Trump.

And if you really think Trump is an alpha well then you're just dumb.

0 upvotesdat_honkey3 years ago

You don't get it! When Trump becomes president he's gonna send all us white men a check for a million dollars!! It's just like when Obama got elected and he gave all the blacks a mansion and a yacht!! You don't need to tell ME how politics works! (straightens tie)

1 upvotesWoujo3 years ago

It's fascinating when people just project whatever fantasies they have onto Donald Trump even if Donald Trump hasn't said a single thing about those things. "Trump's gonna being Red Pill values back." Uh, when has Donald Trump said a single thing about Red Pill values?

14 upvotesHughMannity3 years ago

Donald Trump isn't redpill, he's just a self promoting fake dickhead.

9 upvotesWoujo3 years ago

People who think Trump are redpill are the same ones who think Dan Bilzerian is a badass.

11 upvotesPM_ME_STDS3 years ago

Man she is level headed. Why cant the whiny tumblr femiz think this way. If you want to be treated like,a man you gotta be punished like ometoo.

9 upvotesSementeries3 years ago

That requires taking responsibility.

3 upvotesuser55773 years ago

There was no reason to misquote the original interviewer, what she said would have sufficed but just putting spin on it makes the position less credible.

34 upvotesleftenant_t3 years ago

Trump circlejerking was all we needed on this subreddit.

4 upvotesKhazarKhaganate3 years ago

And he's the epitome of Beta Bux. That's the funny part.

They see him bullying around the other candidates, so they think "woah, that's what douchebags and bad-boys do, he must be RP."

Or the fact that he spoke his true opinions in politics? It's like some people haven't been around old people very long. Old people over the age of 60, frequently will say controversial things and have stopped giving a shit about what people think of them.

Trump is a 70 year old billionaire with kids, wife, and everything he can want from life. Why would he be afraid of losing his bid for the presidency? That's exactly why he can say so many wild things and get away with it.

It's true abundance mentality. It's not because he is RP or read about RP somewhere. It's because he's a spoiled brat who grew up as a billionaire CEO.

2 upvotesArkAngelEV3 years ago

He's the hero we deserve, but not the one we need. So we'll jerk to him. Because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a loudmouth guardian, a divisive protector. A dark knight.

cue epic zimmer outro

-4 upvotesrenegade3 years ago

A con man, and you're gargling his balls.

-5 upvotesArkAngelEV3 years ago

better his balls than Carson or Bernie. Maybe ill get close to that golden parachute ivanka

0 upvotes-Tepes3 years ago

anybody who buys into american/western politics and what these politicians (puppets) say are nothing but beta male ball gargles.. these politicians are no different then the "oh celebrity news"..these people haven't seen the redpill world.. rome burnt while nero watched.the game... they will learn soon enough..

8 upvotesDiarrhea_Van_Frank3 years ago

Even so, still voting for Trump. Worst case scenario, the system burns to the ground and we have to start over. Plenty of people have been begging for that for years. Best case scenario, he actually gets shit done.

10 upvotes500lbdeadlift3 years ago

lol, Trump is so clearly, well to any real observer of psychopaths I guess, playing everybody. He slips every once in awhile and the mask drops. He's a massive egomaniac with serious psychopathic tendencies, but then again so is Clinton. So, tomato, toemato kinda thing.

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6 upvotesspacecase893 years ago

If he really is a sociopath, he is a very smart one because most of them leave a trail of wreckage behind them. In his case, his workers seem to love him and his family seems to love him. I have no examples of lives destroyed, which is hard to believe.

1 upvotes500lbdeadlift3 years ago

Exactly. He's a very well off sociopath, he's paid people off or he knows of certain providers of the keep quiet business, that can provide a unique type of insurance...

1 upvotesKhazarKhaganate3 years ago

Not only that but he's also Beta Bux, but being a billionaire can give you some characteristics similar to narcissistic alphas.

I mean all his wives divorced him for the biggest settlements.

The latest model whore, Melenia Trump, is just that: a whore looking to be first lady, living the billionaire life, going on TV thanks to Trump.

You think she likes having sex with him? Nope. He has bought her and brought her from Slovenia. She's paid for.

And no politician wife will ever disagree with their husband. What did everyone expect?

1 upvotes500lbdeadlift3 years ago

I agree. No one President nor one bill, executive order, directive, world view or any other sociopolitical aspect is going to save America from nose diving into mediocrity and bloatedness.

6 upvotesMenigguh3 years ago

She was coached, fell in line and supported her bread winner. I fail to see the significance.

1 upvotesComplainyGuy3 years ago

op just wanted to share some of his political thoughts on trump and immigration.

13 upvotesrossiFan3 years ago

I want her to be First Lady even more than I want him to be President.

I'm voting for him (and her) so hard, it's not even funny.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

And worse case scenario, she won't be able to do a Hillary and be carried to the White House on her husband's legacy.

7 upvotesWoujo3 years ago

the wife of probably the most red pill man on the planet.

How is he red piill? He is a woman. He is a narcissistic attention whore.

The gal can sniff a loaded question and shut it down like nobody's business:

So.... how is this impressive? She is a politician's wife doing what politician's wives do.

“They’re treated equal. I see him in life, he treats women the same as men. He will tell you what is in his heart, what he thinks. He will not hold it back if you’re a woman, you’re human. If you’re a woman or a man, it’s no different, you’re human."

Uh, no. Would Donald Trump accuse a man of asking him hard questions because he was on his period? Trump is a coward that only goes after weak targets (Rosie O'Donnell, Megan Kelly) because he has no substance to himself.

3 upvotesMakeEmSayAyy3 years ago

She directly and logically answered the questions. Impressive stuff.

0 upvotesWoujo3 years ago

You do realize that they have a media team that prepares them for interviews right? Jeez some of you people are naive.

1 upvotesMakeEmSayAyy3 years ago

Not every interview ever is planned dude, that would be logistics nightmare. But is ok you typical savage-_-

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1 upvotesWoujo3 years ago

he only did that when it was convenient for him. He kissed all of those guys asses earlier. He is a narcissist and an opportunist.

3 upvotessomarain3 years ago

I would assume attacking the Pope is generally inconvenient

1 upvotesWoujo3 years ago

he only attacked the pope after the pope attacked him and then he quickly backed down. he said the pope was a great guy the next week after that.

2 upvotessomarain3 years ago

Of course. The Pope attacked him, he struck back, the Pope conceded, and he made amends.

Write it however you see fit. The man still attacked the fucking Pope.

28 upvotesHS-Thompson3 years ago

Can you mouthbreathers please go make a /trumpredpillmasturbation subreddit or something and leave this one to its chosen topic of self improvement and sexual strategy for men?

The opinions of some 50 year old lady on immigration don't have anything to do with those two topics.

12 upvotes-Tepes3 years ago

"the most red pill man on the planet"

he is just a puppet who will say what you want to hear, obama,bush,hilery,trump makes no difference..

guy is a shill, a zio mouth piece for the elite who want you to think in your illusion you are voting for pile of crap a or b. most red pill man on the planet, guy sucks to feminists if it buys him votes. american independent presidency ended with JFK. the same guts who pushed feminism and this equality bs are the same guys running you puppet government and sideshow bob, bill, bama and now you hop the trump.. You wana see a redpill man...go look at putin, go look at ahamadinejad, go look at some italian ministers, late hugo chavez.. dont look at trump, abdulla, camron, and the amigo puppet crew..

-1 upvotesDishevel3 years ago

He is one of the people that bought the mouthpieces.
Cruz, Rubio, Bush, Clinton, Sanders are the mouth pieces.

He says what he wants to say. This is why the media keep thinking he has offed himself. Because he just says shit. Someones asks him a question and he fucking answers. You may or may not agree with the answer, but I am fairly sure that he agrees with what he says.

I value honesty in communicating what your values are so much, that I am ok with them not perfectly aligning with my own. People are done with non statements and side stepping questions.

Also. Fuck Bernie. If he does not get the nomination he will bend over for the Democratic machine and tell us all what an honest person Clinton really is.

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

What makes you say Bernie will bend over for the Democratic machine?

-1 upvotesDishevel3 years ago

The campaign he has run to date and the voting record that is almost 100% party line.
What makes you think he will not? Have not heard him say it. Voting record does not indicate it.
Why would you think any different?

0 upvotes-Tepes3 years ago

Even Ron Pauls Son is now a Mouth Piece, they are all Mouth Pieces man, all of them have a hand behind them..Trump could just be controlled opposition, much like that Mormon Romney you guys had some 5 years ago, he was put there so people would go vote for bama.. and why is there a bama doing there? Well its to prepare a blame game and civil war for goold ol uncle sam when the elite leave and the people go on a rampage, this multiculturism never works and is unnatural, this is not multiculturism but MONOculturism, as in all these races and people all piled up to make next generation better slaves, or brainwashed (think bluepill) fools...Its a chessboard and these "Selection" candidates are pres-elected, nobody gets to say as they like on public stage, unless he is too a pawn..there is more to Trump then that meets the eye..trust me.

This is now a George Orwellian Society..

3 upvotesDishevel3 years ago

I think Trump is a real issue for the powers that be.

This is why in the beginning every story was "Trump is Done!", "Trump fucked up this time!", "Trump just blew and chance he had.".

The media on both sides was looking to kill him off. This is why I will vote for him. Might not work out. The one thing I do know is that with Cruz, Rubio, Clinton and Sanders we will only get the same shit we have been getting for 30 years.

2 upvotes-Tepes3 years ago

You'll never get another JFK, I don't think voting will solve anything, I never vote and I hang with natural alphas who dont vote, voting means nothing anymore.. Specially in America, I dont think anybody goes in the white house without being put there. The things I have read about trump, he just wants to appear hardliner and would take US into a WW with the eastern powers, but then again, I suspect, are those his words? or somebody else wants him to say that, and then have the rothschild bankster owned media pretend to defile and off him SO that gives him a legit image, I dont know about you guys and no disrespect meant however almost a lot of us outside the US, we see Trump as the Trump..but hey see how it goes. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worse..

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Trump wants WW? Hmm, seems possible. I think WWIII will be fought to help keep the global economy going. Though I did not really expect Trump to lead us there, but he has the rhetoric and lack of overt political goals.

Is Trump bought by the Rothschilds to you?

2 upvotesDishevel3 years ago

Trump is the hope. Not a sure answer.
All we know for sure is that every other person we have a chance at electing is most assuredly "Status quo".

2 upvotesComplainyGuy3 years ago

So this isn't about her at all, it's a bit of political awareness for trump.

6 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

She is fluent in English, French, Slovenian, Serbian, and German. Probably more than arm candy.

18 upvotesHeraclitus943 years ago

Trump seriously might be my hero.

The man doesn't drink caffeine, doesn't drink alcohol, has made a fortune in real estate (even if he did come from a rich family), knows how to hold frame, can take a joke about himself and actually get in on the joke, and knows how to speak and debate.

10 upvoteslogicalthinker13 years ago

Except you're wrong about basically everything. The only red pill thing he does is openly challenge and insult people and watch them hang their head in shame.

He can't hold frame. He attacks anyone and everyone like a jealous, bitchy woman. If you don't bow down to him, he throws a tantrum like a child. He's a pathological liar...like a crazy ex. He's a huge douche, and not the good kind.

Plus he's actually dumb. Listen to him speak. I'm not talking about his ideas, look at how he forms sentences. He can't form a coherent thought. His success comes from his ability to dictate what he wants and leverage his already existing power. That's it.

28 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

He speaks the way he speaks because he knows his audience. He's a very well educated man who makes deals with people all over the world on a regular basis, you don't get to be where Trump is through dumb luck. The way Trump communicates is perfectly crafted for his target audience, which shows great intelligence.

As for not holding frame that is just completely ridiculous. He gets attacked and misquoted again and again every single day by the mass media and yet he still holds his head up high, never apologises and continues to say what he wants to say. He is the fucking master of holding frame. I'd like to see you hold frame when an entire nation is calling you a racist and a sexist.

-5 upvoteslogicalthinker13 years ago

He's always talked like this no matter what. Listen to stuff way before the election. He has always sounded like a buffoon. But you fell for it hook, line, and sinker

7 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

He is a salesman and he talks like a salesman. Watch this video and tell me Trump doesn't know exactly what he is doing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aFo_BV-UzI

The creator of that video implies that Trump is being manipulative or in someway dishonest but I don't think that is the case. He is running for the presidency and is simply selling himself and his ideas to the general public. He has always sold himself too, he treats himself as a brand and has made a ton of money by doing so.

You say he talks like a buffoon, I don't think that he does. He uses simple language sure but he expresses himself clearly and with conviction. He says what he means and is unapologetic in doing so and I respect that.

1 upvoteslogicalthinker13 years ago

Here's a great example from a debate. He's an ass clown and he speaks like one http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/donald-trump-has-no-idea-what-americas-nuclear-triad-is-1748283463

My favorite line: "I think for me, nuclear is just the power. The devastation is very important to me." Lololol what a fucking idiot.

5 upvotessuubz3 years ago

yeah lol he's so incoherent and stupid

http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4544001/donald-trump-1991-house-hearing-us-economic-recovery-depression-vs-recession

Trump has an intimate understanding of what good policy looks like. He has for decades.

4 upvoteslogicalthinker13 years ago

He's reading prepared remarks. I can fucking look like a genious if I'm allowed to prepare remarks. He has his entire legal team to help him with that. But if you put him on the spot, he sounds like the fucking idiot he is. Conversely, if you look at how Cruz speaks off the cuff, it's the complete opposite of Trump. He has a reflexive and deep understanding of the issues. He doesn't need to prepare remarks; he just knows his shit.

10 seconds into the vid, he called the recession a depression. Lol he was already wrong within the first 10 seconds of the video.

2 upvotessuubz3 years ago

Sure he's got some notes, but who would stand at a HoR hearing without notes. Btw the full hearing is over 45 minutes long and he goes into some detailed analysis of the market's conditions and displays his keen observational and analytical skills, I just realized the vid I linked is only a small portion of that.

Also, what was he wrong about? If you're not aware of the difference between a depression and a recession it's clearly you who's lacking in knowledge. He was stating that what was being touted at that time as a recession was in fact a depression which is different.

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-2 upvoteslogicalthinker13 years ago

Allegedly. We don't know that to be the case for sure

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

He speaks like that on purpose.

7 upvoteslogicalthinker13 years ago

No he fucking doesn't! He sounds like a fucking idiot!

Other politicians dumb down ideas to simple concepts that are easy to grasp. Everyone else does it, Trump doesn't. For example, when talking about foreign policy, they don't spill out a dissertation about some country's socio-economic history and how it relates to current affairs. Trump says, "we're going to win against China, we're gonna win so much you'll be tired of winning!" Lol is he Charlie Sheen?!

1 upvotesKhazarKhaganate3 years ago

Based on what evidence? You're so full of shit.

Trump is the most idiotic man who has had the most success and luck in this planet.

Just read his response to Obama's gitmo plan, and then read the other candidates response. It's clear that Trump's response, is the dumber, more simpleton response.

The other candidates, (whether they used professional writers or not), always sound smarter, more well-researched, more knowledgeable, in every possible way.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Yes, they do sound smarter.

1 upvotesJedYorks3 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugnDH5-j9D8

cruz btfo

-1 upvoteskeedamaister3 years ago

He can't hold frame.

Exactly, you don't see any major leader or politician lose their frame when startled. I have no idea on why trp is tripping on Trump. All he does is open his mouth, he doesn't even know what he stands for. How in the world can you support someone who has no goals or vision.

7 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Confirmed for knowing nothing about Trump.

-5 upvoteskeedamaister3 years ago

Yeah. Tell me one logical reasonable thing he said in the past few months that he hasn't gone back on.

18 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

That illegal immigration puts a great strain on the US economy and blue collar workers within the US.

That the trillions of dollars spent on war in the middle east would have been better spent rebuilding crumbling infrastructure within the US.

That money in politics and that the special interest groups that own politicians needs to be addressed.

That Obamacare is a disaster and an alternative needs to be created.

That the outsourcing of American jobs to other nations has cost this country dearly and something needs to be done about it.

Edit. Lol, I get asked for 1 logical thing Trump has said, I give 5 and get down voted. Bernie losers are everywhere it seems.

2 upvotesMakeEmSayAyy3 years ago

you cant just believe what the media tells you.

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

He's going to build the wall!

13 upvotesSementeries3 years ago

no goals or vision

Sounds like somebody who isn't a billionaire.

-1 upvoteskeedamaister3 years ago

Is that your best rebuttal?

Trumps goal is to take power, money and become famous. He is chasing the fame to make money. I haven't challenged his intellect(He is damn good at suing people and at takeovers), however a good president is one who has a vision for the country. It has to be someone who can negotiate deals without blackmailing people.

In the end, doesn't matter what you believe, but a leader has to have vision or all fails. From George Washington to Mahatma Gandhi to Otto von Bismarck, they all had their own vision.

8 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Funny that you name two war leaders and then ghandi.

Trump wants power, but I'm not sure what's wrong with that. Presidents of the USA have been charismatic faces more than much else the last several decades. Bullshit rhetoric under the guise of change, and reality is more of the same endless war and economic fuckery.

7 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Trumps goal is to take power, money and become famous. He is chasing the fame to make money.

And you know that because? Are you an ESP?

-1 upvotesWoujo3 years ago

There is no actual evidence that Trump is a billionaire. How much money people have is a secret and Trump has never released his financial information. He claims he is a billionaire, and he has sued people for claiming he isn't, but there is no actual evidence he is a billionaire.

The reality is that he probably does not own most (or even any) of the "Trump Tower" buildings. He just licenses his name out. His "business empire" is run by other people and Trump has absolutely 0 day to day involvement (which explains how he can run for President and do reality shows).

1 upvotesShamelessAttempt3 years ago

Can take a joke about himself? Are you kidding? A Trump supporter can say anything about Trump and I won't say anything until it's about him knowing comedy, because that's just outright not true. He sued a comedian for insinuating his father was an orangutan. SUED. A comedian's job is to make fun of stuff, by the way. Suing is not what people who can take a joke do. So no, Trump cannot take, get in on, or unfortunately, even make a good joke.

-3 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

You can drink caffeine directly?

5 upvotesfreddymerckx3 years ago

Whatever. Anyone who thinks that Trump would be a good president is a moron. I'm sure she was coached and prepared before the interview, she knew what was coming

3 upvotesflip693 years ago

What does it say that I view her a being practical and sensible vs spouting the typical american female line to such questions.

I sure as hell do not like Trump or his goddy rococo kitsch style... SURE AS HELL DO NOT WANT HIM AS PRESIDENT.

But I'll give credit where it's due to his mail order wife.

4 upvotesdownvotesanimals3 years ago

Ugh. Fuck off and die with this trump shit.

10 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

How many people actually think Trump is Red Pill? He's just an asshole. There is a huge difference.

He is easily one of the dumbest people I've ever heard speak publicly. There is a big difference between being an alpha, and being born so rich/entitled that you have no sense of shame.

6 upvotesjameygates3 years ago

Finally! The more authoritarian you are does not mean the me red pill you are.

4 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

He's a moderate compared to the rest of the GOP. Where did you get this idea that he's authoritarian?

9 upvoteswhats_the_deal223 years ago

Because no one really knows what he stands for. They hear a few quips he said in an interview or some outlandish statement he made and they say "wow, this guy is an extremist asshole." He's not. He's been spitting out some very polarizing opinions to conjure up controversy and keep the spotlight on himself. All the while the people who agree with become fierce supporters. But other than some outlandish things he's said he actually is quite moderate which is part of the reason the rest of the party doesn't like him.

Below is a list compiled by /u/AngryRedditorsBelow

  • No more nation building in the Middle East. He openly called the Iraq War a mistake even back when it wasn't cool to do so.

  • He wants lower and middle class tax cuts.

  • He is focused on American jobs.

  • He wants to reduce student loan debt. Is against the government charging interest on student loans: "That's probably one of the only things the government shouldn't make money off – I think it's terrible that one of the only profit centers we have is student loans." Openness to lowering student loan interest rates and making loan forgiveness programs.

  • Wants to audit the Federal Reserve.

  • Doesn't have any special interests groups funding him unlike the other candidates. Has called for all candidates to return the money they're getting back to Super PACs and to remove special interest groups from our election process.

  • Likes universal healthcare, is open to replacing America's broken system with something similar to Canada but better.

  • Moderate on social issues (e.g. affirmative action, women's health, gay rights)

  • Focus on broad-based American nationalism instead of narrow and divisive race and gender identity politics.

  • Acknowledgement that political correctness is obnoxious.

  • Desire to put America first in trade deals instead of pure Wall Street globalism that exploits third world workers abroad and destroys domestic jobs.

  • Realist based foreign policy. (e.g. deal with Putin if it is in our national interest to do so, even if he isn't a nice guy).

  • National pride. The man loves his country and thinks it is the best. Every country should have a leader like that.

  • Diversity: he employed women in leadership roles before it was popular to do that. And he did it in the construction industry of all places.

  • He has absolutely nothing against legal immigration, he's encouraged it many times. His grandparents are immigrants, his wife is an immigrant, several of his closest business partners in New York are immigrants. He is against uncontrolled, illegal immigration.

  • Hugely successful businessman, knows how to manage money, how to invest for the future and a fantastic negotiator.

  • Unlike other candidates, his economic plan actually makes sense. It would result in "an 11 percent higher GDP, a 29 percent larger capital stock, 6.5 percent higher wages, and 5.3 million more full-time equivalent jobs".

  • Take a look at this video of him back in 1991 talking about how to utilize the upper class to re-invest in America or face higher taxes . Not only is he very knowledgable in economics and investment, but the tax structure he offers up back in 91' seems relevant even today to help alleviate some of the complaints we have about 1%'ers and wall street.

  • He's genuinely against TPP.

  • Acknowledges the danger of allowing mass refugees from places governed by fundamentalist terrorist groups, even if such acknowledgment is not politically correct.

6 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

This is a very high energy comment.

1 upvotesComplainyGuy3 years ago

Likes universal healthcare, is open to replacing America's broken system with something similar to Canada but better.

Is this true or are you spitting shit.

Healthcare is my trigger point to deciding. If you have any sources that would be useful for me to share with others.

2 upvotesKhazarKhaganate3 years ago

He's held both sides... in different debates.

So basically, you won't be able to choose because NO ONE FUCKING KNOWS WHAT TRUMP STANDS FOR.

-2 upvotesjameygates3 years ago

Saying Trump is focused on a broad range of American nationalism literally make me laugh out loud. "Broad" if you're white maybe.

He constantly shitting on Mexicans, Arabs and the Chinese.

-5 upvotesjameygates3 years ago

I really don't know how you can call him moderate when he called for a national ban on all Muslims, advocates breaking the Geneva conventions, wants to commit war crimes and generally bully other nations around...

2 upvotesWolfofAnarchy3 years ago

Holy fucking shit you are so misinformed, on every single point you have mentioned. Next time you're in an argument, at least present yourself well, seriously.

-1 upvotesjameygates3 years ago

Care to point out where I'm wrong? I could give you videos of him advocating for every single thing I've shown.

He said he wants to bring back torture, "even if it doesn't work" which violates the Geneva conventions, he also advocated going after the innocent families of suspected terrorists, which is a WAR CRIME.

Edit: Link to video of him saying he wants to go after terrorist families

2 upvotesGOATmar3 years ago

This right here is proof that you can swallow the "general" Red Pill (or at least be made aware of it - nature of women, nature of men, biomechanics and such) but still be totally "blue pill" when it comes to politics and knowing what separates a supreme alpha from the lesser ones (not to mention the race/Jew red pill...)

Said once and I'll say it again.

There are levels to this red pill shit and 99.99% of TRP has only taken one of 2 red pills out of like 4 or 5.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Entitled rich guy who born rich says insulting things that doesn't make sense and lies constantly, and won't apologize That's not Red Pill. That's an asshole.

you want to go on about holding frame and shit like that, ok, but you can't be dogmatic about this. Everything depends on context.

When the people who follow you only have the lowest IQ in the country, and many of them are a bunch of racist shit heads, you aren't being an alpha; you're appealing to weak people, and worse yet, you are planting to them and they have authority over you.

Kennedy was an alpha. FDR was an alpha. Trump is not in any class near where those guys were.

6 upvotesGOATmar3 years ago

Entitled rich guy who born rich says insulting things that doesn't make sense and lies constantly, and won't apologize That's not Red Pill. That's an asshole.

Prove it. Show me where Trump has lied since he started running for president.

Not only that, show me how "lying" invalidates one from being a supreme alpha, and more hilariously yet show me where any other alpha has never told a lie.

You also said he doesn't make sense? LMAO

You have no case. You're a blue-pilled fool. You're likely a brown person terrified of Trump because you're scared he's gonna deport you.

When the people who follow you only have the lowest IQ in the country

Oh shut the fuck up. Many high IQ folk love Trump. Trump is high IQ himself.

Most COLLEGE educated idiots are voting for Sanders or anyone but Trump SOLELY because Millennial colleges have indoctrinated them into being Social Justice Warriors. "Smart" folk nowadays, in the sense of degrees/education, are among the most retarded folk on this planet. These are same idiots campaigning for feminism (destructive), the acceptance of even more destructive RAPEfugees, and socialism, etc etc. Terrible people.

Sure most of these kids have fast processing brains for solving maths... but that shit means NOTHING in the real world if you've been brainwashed by jews to use that brain power to campaign insane leftism/Social justice/political retardedness.

I live this shit everyday. I know SO many college educated/"""Smart""" kids voting for Sanders over Trump because it's socially more acceptable, and because they want to get rid of school debts/"muh equality."

Again, you have no case here whatsoever.

many of them are a bunch of racist shit heads

Racist is just codeword for "logical" & "sane/healthy"

Diversity is just codeword for "white genocide."

Proximity + Diversity = WAR.

Racism is biomechanics instilling tribalism to avoid conflict/racial tension/war.

I'm latino and I am racist as shit towards minorities. And I do NOT blame white folk for being sick of brown folk's shit. Hell, I am.

you aren't being an alpha; you're appealing to weak people, and worse yet, you are planting to them and they have authority over you.

Any strong leader has weaker folk following him. Women follow the made Men. Beta faggots follow the women.

No leader leads a bunch of leaders - at least not for long before getting out-alpha'd. Alphas all lead each other, taking turns being leaders.

The position of President cannot be rotating though. It's the highest position in the country, probably the fuckin world. You have to be supremely alpha ESPECIALLY in today's pussified age to take the presidency by sheer will and force of nature like Trump has (Check the polls!)

Kennedy was an alpha. FDR was an alpha. Trump is not in any class near where those guys were.

Trump is single handedly destroying the degenerate media and everyone who HATES his guts. Slaughtering them. Absolutely raping them. He's doing so unapologetically, with grace, and charm you can study to incorporate into your own life - he is a TRUE role model. He even has the respect of PUTIN - Russia's closest freakin FDR they possibly ever had. He doesn't take money from jews, he has his own.

Kennedy & FDR were supreme alphas in a time they were bred & EXPECTED to be... Trump is one in a system/society that breeds emasculated faggots and punishes masculinity. Trump is more impressive than both of them combined, period.

This is an entirely different era and a whole new ballgame. For Trump to be respected and admire by dudes like Cernovich and Heartiste, not to mention Putin etc... speaks volumes.

Anyone not seeing this as clear as I've broken it down is probably a terrified brown illegal. And your opinion doesn't matter anyhow.

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Prove it. Show me where Trump has lied since he started running for president. Not only that, show me how "lying" invalidates one from being a supreme alpha, and more hilariously yet show me where any other alpha has never told a lie.

At one point you're challenging the notion that he lied, and then stating that all alpha's lie.

Why don't you get your views straight first, then we can talk.

As for my opinion not mattering.... well friend... it's not like you are going to be changing the world for flip flopping on your views and supporting somebody you claim has a high IQ and yet thinks Paris is in Germany and refers to "Second Corinthians" as "Corinthians two". But whatever.

He's written 15 books (with ghost writers) on business. the ironic thing is that they don't all end in chapter 11.

You sound like a Trump sheep... and that's cool... but I don't take lessons on what an alpha is from sheep.

0 upvotesGOATmar3 years ago

At one point you're challenging the notion that he lied, and then stating that all alpha's lie.

False. I asked you to prove he lied.

You still haven't done so.

Then, I asked you to prove which "alpha" hasn't, regardless of this non-existent proof.

You still haven't.

Conclusion: you are completely wrong. Which makes you a hater.

You know who hates winners like Trump? Fuckin pathetic losers LOL.

yet thinks Paris is in Germany

Yea you're a troll idiot. That tweet has already been debunked the day it came out and idiots like you made it a big deal. That's the only thing you have against Trump? fuckin kek

0 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Most COLLEGE educated idiots are voting for Sanders or anyone but Trump SOLELY because Millennial colleges have indoctrinated them into being Social Justice Warriors.

So you are into the 'education makes you stupid' routine? Very alpha. you know what an alpha does? Gets on top of his game, puts in the work; learns what he needs to know, and puts it into action.

You have no case. You're a blue-pilled fool. You're likely a brown person terrified of Trump because you're scared he's gonna deport you.

So you are a racist troll trying to invalidate an opinion based on somebody's skin colour AND you support Trump. SURPRISE!!!

Oh shut the fuck up. Many high IQ folk love Trump. Trump is high IQ himself.

Really? What's his approval rating among people with an IQ over a 100?

This is what Trump supporters look like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFYdWXZLpT4

Watch that. I doubt anybody in that crowd will be figuring out how to split an atom any time soon.

0 upvotesGOATmar3 years ago

So you are into the 'education makes you stupid' routine?

No. I'm into the "college institutions in 2016 are ran by SJWs that teach impressionable low-T boys and low-E girls social justice" reality.

So you are a racist troll trying to invalidate an opinion based on somebody's skin colour AND you support Trump. SURPRISE!!!

I knew you were a biased mudskin. Must suck to suck, manlet.

Keep hating on winners like Trump tho! It's totally working

Really? What's his approval rating among people with an IQ over a 100?

1000%.

This is what Trump supporters look like

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0 upvotesmyprimetime3 years ago

being rich/entitled IS being alpha.

When you think of Chad, do you think of a fit construction worker or a frat guy with a trust fund and a BMW?

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

When you earn it; not when you inherit it.

1 upvoteszyk0s3 years ago

not when you inherit it.

Do you seriously think it matters to the chicks he's fucking?

0 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

As you pointed out, he's earned it multiple times over.

3 upvotesnikdahl3 years ago

Did he "earn" that million dollar loan? Or the knowledge that no matter how much risk he takes with his money, he will always be perfectly fine? Did he earn his very expensive education? Or being born into a family that is surrounded by people that were able to advise and mentor on how to invest, negotiate and sell? Did he "earn" the bull market that allowed his investments to flourish?

He was born into privilege. Sure he worked hard, but if you think someone starting from nothing working twice as hard as him would result in anything close to what Trump has now.

The idea that he "earned" his money is simply not accurate, at least not in the way that most people purport. He was born into that money. Almost anyone, given a million dollars at zero risk and a good financial adviser in those markets could have amassed a very similar worth.

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

You answered your own question. Him recieving the educatiom he did combined with being surrounded by those he was allowed him to earn whatever he has. Yes, he may have had more privilege than others, but again as you point out, he had to be educated and surround himself with quality people in order to earn what he has. Many are born with silver spoons and do nothing with their lifes. He could have made a few millions and been content. The simple fact he can recieve as much hate as he is and yet still be a front runner for the GOP shows there are lessons on business and leadership he can show others. Sure he was extremely lucky in his upbringing, sure many others in similar positions of privilege could have amassed such wealth, but what we're seeing him do in the GOP primary is pretty remarkable considering the political climate of today.

We can admire what he is doing in today's political climate while still disagreeing vehemently about how well he would be as potus.

-1 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

He's red pill and an idiot. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Granted he's a genius at business and getting what he wants. He is politically stupid.

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

He's really not a genius at business. How many times did he go bankrupt? If he wasn't born rich, he'd have nothing right now. And if he had just put his dad's money in the bank and collected interest off it, he'd likely have more money than he has now.

There's a difference between being a sociopathic egomaniac and an alpha.

0 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Going bankrupt and making it again shows deeps understanding of business. I don't know how he did it, I have not studied him much. Do you know how he was able to go bankrupt and amass wealth again?

There are alphas society hates and alphas society loves.

3 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

And there are people who are bank rolled by their father and can fail without having to deal with the consequences of failure because somebody else bails them out.

Whether that be the government, or his father.

0 upvotesDONT_reply_with_THIS3 years ago

He's politically stupid but dominating the polls and almost guaranteed to be our next President.

Maybe he's not as politically stupid as you claim.

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

What are his political policies and beliefs?

He's politically smart in the sense that he can garner votes and praise. But he has no political platform to actually implement, or at least none that I am aware of.

1 upvotesDONT_reply_with_THIS3 years ago

He's against nation rebuilding like we've been doing for decades in the middle east.

He's against TPP and trade deals which benefit wall street and foreign governments and fuck over the middle class.

He wants to reinvest a ton of money in infrastructure which would create a ton of jobs.

He wants to deport illegal immigrants which are a huge drain on our tax dollars.

He wants to keep the United States from becoming full of cucks like in Europe who have allowed total and complete islamization to occur in their country. Instead of the Islamists needing an army to invade Europe they invaded with an army of refugees. You'll see more and more the effects of this in the future. Mass rapes, huge financial crisis due to the massive drain on tax dollars.

European men will eventually have to stand the fuck up and do something or they're doomed.

He's also not a politically correct pussy like a majority of politicians.

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Do you have a source for this on hand?

I'm down with being against the trade deals and nation rebuilding especially, but this is the first I'm hearing about it lol

6 upvotesCaCacanada3 years ago

The Trump circlejerkers are just as bad as the Bernie Sanders circlejerkers.

You people don't even realize that you're essentially the same.

-2 upvotesSementeries3 years ago

One is a spineless cuckhold and the other isn't

(Hint: B S)

-6 upvotesPhoenix_20153 years ago

Spineless or not I'm pretty sure they're both taking a shit. Still can figure out why so many of you are willing to eat it.

1 upvotesDishevel3 years ago

Sanders is a politician that will put the good of the party above his values.
Trump is a guy who buys politicians and if he is not nominated he will not endorse one of the other whores.

They are very different. If Bernie wins he will fight a bit for what he believes in, but the good of the party will always "Trump" the will of the people in his mind.

2 upvotesjameygates3 years ago

The good of the party..? Sanders does not really care for the Democratic Party he has been an independent for the majority of his political career.

1 upvotesDishevel3 years ago

He runs as an independent because it is really good for his electability. He caucuses pretty much 100% with the Democrats. The Democrats run nothing against him, because he actually is one.

He has worked very hard not to hit Hillary with anything that could hurt her in the General election and despite the fact that everyone knows she is a liar, you watch.

100%. If Bernie does not get the nomination, he will, 100% back Hillary Clinton. Not because she is honest and good for the country. Because he will tow the party line.

3 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

This is a weird view of Bernie. He is between Democrats and Republicans, wants more for the people which is Democrat while cutting spending that does not focus on the country which is Republican. He's against endless war which is not Democrat or Republican, against fucking up the environment which is also not Democrat or Republican. Essentially, he goes against corporate agenda, which is not Democrat or Republican.

2 upvotesDishevel3 years ago

His voting record is much more clear.
He votes party line.

Edit: To add this.

As an independent, Sanders worked out a deal with the Senate Democratic leadership in which he agrees to vote with the Democrats on all procedural matters except with permission from Democratic whip Dick Durbin (a request that is almost never made or granted). In return, he is allowed to keep his seniority and received the committee seats that would have been available to him as a Democrat; in 2013–14 he was Chairman of the United States Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs (during the Veterans Health Administration scandal).[112][113] Sanders is free to vote as he pleases on policy matters, but has almost always voted with the Democrats.

Also he is between Liberal and Socialist.

5 upvotesjameygates3 years ago

You're so wrong. He isn't going to back Hilary Clinton to 'toe the party line' he would do it because she would still be obviously better than the Republican nomination.

1 upvotesDishevel3 years ago

So you are saying that he will not toe the party line.
He will just do the thing that looks like it for other reasons.
Cool.

So. The same exact thing can be said for his stellar voting record. Where he just happens to think that the Democrats are right ALL THE TIME. Like you I guess. Republicans are always wrong and Democrats are always right.
You must sleep well at tonight knowing there are so many politicians that care about the well being of the people over all else.

Also. From Wikipedia.

As an independent, Sanders worked out a deal with the Senate Democratic leadership in which he agrees to vote with the Democrats on all procedural matters except with permission from Democratic whip Dick Durbin (a request that is almost never made or granted). In return, he is allowed to keep his seniority and received the committee seats that would have been available to him as a Democrat; in 2013–14 he was Chairman of the United States Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs (during the Veterans Health Administration scandal).[112][113] Sanders is free to vote as he pleases on policy matters, but has almost always voted with the Democrats.

Seems like a party guy to me.

0 upvotesduglock3 years ago

The opposite is true. Leftism is a feminine ideology. There is a reason if you were to remove the female vote there would not be a single Democrat president elected. That is just a fact.

3 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

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1 upvotesKhazarKhaganate3 years ago

He does. I swear, the betas in TRP are so attracted and sheepishly follow anyone with some charisma.

One TRPer even bragged about how "donald is always winning"... like as if that's a TRP trait.

One day, some of these TRPers will realize The Donald ===> Beta Bux billionaire with a huge amount of narcissism that they were confusing for confidence/intelligence.

Just goes to show you one thing though: you can say the most idiotic things and get away with it. There will always be people who love you.

6 upvotesmaxio993 years ago

"I never thought to stay here without papers. I had a visa, I traveled every few months back to the country to Slovenia to stamp the visa. I came back, I applied for the green card, I applied for the citizenship later on after many years of green card. So I went by system, I went by the law. And you should do that, you should not just say let me stay here and whatever happens, happens.”

This is where I call BS . For anyone who ever applied for any type of Visa to live/work/study in US is obvious BS . Do you know that US Embassy doesn't have to prolong your Visa ? And most cases they just don't . If you study - they can tell you enough for now , stay home for a while and come back in few months and we will see . They can reject you for a lot of different reasons (because you are "too old" or you do not have enough money) .

And most important I just don't believe her . She had a life set up in US , she had some businesses , work , apartment ,bills everything and she just was risking everything she had going on to comeback to Slovenia to get a new visa (maybe or maybe not) ? If this would be that easy - there would be no illegal emigrants in US .

5 upvotesCuckedByTRUMP3 years ago

You forget that a lot of the time I'm sure Don was involved. That man has power. The process when she was traveling back and forth to see him was probably fairly easy due to connections.

0 upvotesKhazarKhaganate3 years ago

Yes private planes and lawyers handling her visa etc.

That whore will divorce trump for a lot of money someday, especially if she doesn't get to become first-lady.

Just like his last few wives he paid HUUUUUUUGE TREMENDOUS money to.

1 upvotesCuckedByTRUMP3 years ago

Trump is the king of prenups. He has won big every divorce. He wins because he takes precautions. One wife of his got 60 mil after everything was said and done. He was worth like 3 billion at the time. He is not dumb. He knows this game. Poor dudes are the ones who get divorce raped. Or guys who got rich after getting married. Trump is not this way and doesn't fall into this trap.

10 upvotesTonyLaRocca3 years ago

But why should legal immigration be easy? Every nation has an obligation to its taxpayers to give them the best life possible. If there is low gainful employment in the US, and the cost of social services and education are rising, then why should the government take in more immigrants at all? This isn't a racist or xenophobic view, just a logistical one.

9 upvoteskick63 years ago

It's a nationalist view, which could be described as xenophobic, and there's nothing wrong with it.

Don't let people's stupid labels steer you away from truth.

1 upvotesKakistokratic3 years ago

Depends on the immigrant. Lots of Silicon Valley start-up CEO's are running the company from over seas because their application is stuck in Kafka-land. I'd dare say they're an asset to the economy. But I could be wrong.

2 upvoteskick63 years ago

I'd dare say they're an asset to the economy. But I could be wrong.

Last stats I saw say that more startups shit the bed than not. So not necessarily a benefit. And more facebooks isn't exactly what this country needs at the moment. We need hard workers...not idea men.

1 upvotesWoujo3 years ago

Last stats I saw say that more startups shit the bed than not. So not necessarily a benefit.

Are you kidding me? 95% of all businesses fail. That's how capitalism works. But its the 5% that don't fail that make this country great. How can you say that's not a benefit.

1 upvoteskick63 years ago

Because the 95% that DO fail take a lot of capital down the toilet with them. Are you saying the 5% create enough wealth to balance the 95% that destroy it?

0 upvotes-Tepes3 years ago

Nothing can be salvaged, you as a people are in irreversible decline, thankfully so..your economy, nation, global status all are coming to an end, just like it was the case for all zionist puppets...from ottomans & england 100 years ago, like germany 70 yaers ago, like USSR 20 years ago, stop wasting your time in politics, bama,trump..are all puppets. the immigrants/parasites will move to new stuff or return.. just enjoy the decline and save yourself and your family if you have any..

0 upvotesTonyLaRocca3 years ago

That's the whole point- is the individual an asset or a burden?

1 upvotesWoujo3 years ago

But why should legal immigration be easy?

Immigration, both legal and illegal, is the reason America is the strongest country in the world right now. We are literally stealling the best and brightest from every country in the world. Go to every major university in America and look at their engineering and science departments. They are all foreign. Which makes sense - we are literally getting the best people in the world to come here. Some of them go back, but most of them don't.

The people that criticize immigrants are mostly white trash that work at Target and have never accomplished shit in their life.

1 upvotesTonyLaRocca3 years ago

There is a difference between criticizing immigrants, and saying that the United States cannot logistically handle an influx of immigrants at the moment. Trying to lump together and insult anyone trying to make that point doesn't change its validity.

-1 upvoteslong-lostfriend3 years ago

If my nation wanted to give me the best life possible, it would stop taxing me altogether.

2 upvotesjameygates3 years ago

That would not give you the best life ever.... so dumb.

0 upvoteslong-lostfriend3 years ago

It's the best thing the state could offer me. Go read Bastiat's The Law.

2 upvotesjameygates3 years ago

I could also give you dozens of books advocating the opposite opinion. The fact is without taxes you don't have police officers, firemen, or any government at all.

Maybe you really believe that it's right and could argue forever, but don't act like what your saying is in any way obvious or common sense.

2 upvotes-Tepes3 years ago

She had a life set up in US , she had some businesses , work , apartment ,bills everything and she just was risking everything she had going on to comeback to Slovenia to get a new visa (maybe or maybe not) ? If this would be that easy - there would be no illegal emigrants in US .

This, Bang On. Just some whores sob story.. But The Ubber Nationalist cant see this truth, these people are clouded by their xenophobia and one eyed view, oneyetis is what americans have in common, this whole thing including the interview are just setups in their own way, you honestly want me to buy how she worked hard to get a visa and yada yada.. nope..she had connections and setup..

Perhaps xenophillia and learning the original teachings of XENOPHON (redpill athenian general) and likes of Socrates (more redpill guys as Plato) would benefit them. All whom could see through the sham. I bet half the people reading this comment dont even know the two greek giants I just mentioned..both could look at the flaws in their greek kingdoms, the later was subdued and later killed by democracy..no kidding..

-1 upvotesjameygates3 years ago

Shut up about 'democtacy' killing Socrates. Socrates chose death, he could have been exiled or freed the night before his death, however he chose to die. In no way did democracy kill him, you're just anti democratic, but don't try and rewrite history.

1 upvotes-Tepes3 years ago

Its you who rewrites and buys the Bluepill Hogwash of history.

How can you chose to die?

He Opposed and Over Threw Democrazy, Plato, Socrates, Xenophon.. Some of the Greatest Greek Minds Opposed it, and Formed the 30 Tyrants who overthew Democracy, So If thats not Anti Democratic I don't know what is?

So no he did not choose to die. He opposed the genral ruling elite and the primitive system that us democracy, and he was put to death. I have done great deal of work on him and I have more authority on this subject then you would.

As any Red Piller Today will be Put to Death by your feminist democratic freedom to say what we want you to say soceity for exposing reality. Socrates was Put the Death for "Mis leading the youth of Greece against their Democracy" Hell with your Democracy, its just another Garbage neo religion, another excuse to impose and buy fairy tales, you think your Democracy and equality crap will solve all world issues no different then some Islamic Jihadist thinks Islam will solve all issues and other bs. no different.

1 upvotesjameygates3 years ago

Dude. Read any Plato. They gave Socrates a choice of either exile or death and he chose death. His friend then offered to free him from prison the night before and he chose not to flee, because he believed in the immortality f the soul.

1 upvotesVivacleve3 years ago

What do all the acronyms stand for such as BB TLDR?

1 upvotesnoobforlife3 years ago

To the spergs in this post calling Trump a whiny woman. You are morons and are too stupid to see the forest for the trees. You like to outlogic and nitpick on his individual behavior without seeing the broader objectives and genius moves. You are morons precisely because you (willfully or not) fail to see the forest for the trees, either because you are unable to or choose not to.

He is leading a citizen's revolt and has revolutionized the election cycle. You see the "low-grade vocabulary" and "tantrums" only on a surface level and do not understand the motivation and tactics behind them. He has masterfully manipulated the media and the outraged liberals for his campaign's benefit. He will be the next POTUS and is genuinely a brilliant man.

1 upvotesjoaoluizsn3 years ago

He indoctrinated her pretty well, or maybe...it's just love!

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

the wife of probably the most red pill man on the planet

Men can be masculine while* being married. Not every married man is a weaksauce fuck.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Those bashing Trump don't understand RP. Sad!

"Lets ignore Trumps policies and look at his effectiveness."

If that sentence pisses you off, you're not thinking RP. You're thinking with your emotions (like woman and children). Our goal is not to be moral, or "right", but to be effective. Only through being effective can we make the changes we want in the world.

"But I want to be a moral person. I don't want power."

If you are a moral person, you understand it's your duty to make the world a better place. Because you have the ability to gain power when others can't, you morally should. That way you can change the world for the better.

If you want to have any effect on the world, you'll first have to do what is most effective (in order to gain enough power) before you can change anything.

If you aren't a moral person, or understand that morality isn't black and white (most older RPers), then I don't have to convince you of the necessity of taking power.

Either way, effectiveness is essential. I'd even say it's at the core of RP.

Now let's look at Donald's effectiveness.

Here's an incredible breakdown by Charisma on Command on how Trump uses emotions (fear, anger, etc.) to influence his supporters. It also covers how Donald uses body posture, eye contact, ect. to dominate a stage.

Look at the way he uses sentence structure (commands, repetition, sentence endings), and speaks using only simple words. Boston Globe has a great article on how he uses a 4th grade speaking level to dig deep into people's brains. It's actually more difficult to only use small words when speaking. Finally, here's an incredible video, by someone who hates Trump, on how he only uses single syllable words and how incredibly difficult it is to use language at that level.

Lessons to be taken and learned:

Whether you like/agree with Trump or not, he is the most effective real world example of RP psychology we've seen in our lives. Hate or love him, swallow your pride and study a master. There's no greater way to learn.

0 upvotesKhazarKhaganate3 years ago

There's nothing RP about Donald Trump. He's a narcissist who speaks his mind, because he's a billionaire CEO with nothing to lose.

If you think Donald Trump is RP... Then you also think some ISIS terrorist is RP because he doesn't care what you think.

But can he pick up girls? Or is he more likely to take a sex slave?

Morality does fucking matter.

You're thinking with your emotions (like woman and children).

Only emotional people love Trump for his effectiveness or his charisma. His policies, trustworthiness, character, and morals are what matters.

-1 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

If she had married someone other than Trump, someone less masculine, I'm pretty sure she doesn't turn out like this.

This is called good upbringing combined with a good, strong man.

Melania for First Lady

3 upvotesWoujo3 years ago

she is a fucking sugar baby dude

4 upvotesrporion3 years ago

No, she is among the best money can buy.

1 upvotesWoujo3 years ago

yes that's what a sugar baby is

0 upvotesKhazarKhaganate3 years ago

She's a whore, who will rob trump if trump doesn't make her first lady.

You really think people marry someone 30 years older than them for the turn-ons?

No they marry for money and living the famous/fortune life.

Trump is ultimate Beta Bux. He's gotten divorced plenty of times before and robbed in divorce court because he's a cuck. Those children may not even be his.

0 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

A lot lately I can't tell the difference between troll and ignorance.

Either trolls have gotten really good or men are more lost than I thought.

-2 upvotesT00000093 years ago

I think I want her to be First Lady even more than I want him to be President.

Getting a class act in the white house again would be nice.

0 upvotesthenemaxofredpill3 years ago

Yeah there was an article about how she really didn't say anything...well unless you consider facts saying something. And I posted a comment on the article stating that American women should use her as an example by not speaking much and supporting her husband without question because she is a woman who is married with kids to a billionaire. Tons of downvotes and how I am sexist and yada yada. Most were by bitch men.

-2 upvotes • [deleted] • 3 years ago

Thank you for posting this. A great argument I can use against my left family members who hate her and call her a hypocrite.





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