I'm pregnant and you are the father.

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June 10, 2016
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Age: 36.

Height: 6'5"

Weight: 225lbs (single digit BF 200/365 days a year)

Property: 4 bedroom house, mortgaged.

Car: £22,000 - 1 year old (Credit)

Salary: £63,000 (2014-15)

I predominantly date women between the ages of 28-32 at this time in my life.

In the last 2 years I've had 3 different women claim I've impregnated them.

Oh and the twist. I got the sip at 28, 8 years ago and I've had 4 sterile checks since.

If you are at the top, they want you tied down.

1 admitted lying about being pregnant to see my reaction.

1 recieved my text explaining I was sterile and i've never been contacted again.

1 remained adamant I was the father, and 2 days ago I was cleared of parental responsibility through DNA test. (The child was not mine.)

Welcome to the real world gents.


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Title I'm pregnant and you are the father.
Author random13571357
Upvotes 1566
Comments 416
Date 10 June 2016 05:25 AM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/39437
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/4nevzx/im_pregnant_and_you_are_the_father/
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[–]brbomglolwtfbbq391 points392 points  (77 children) | Copy

A girl I very briefly dated and slept with only ONCE tried to pull the "surprise you're the father" bit on me. She showed me a positive pregnancy test and pushed really really hard to move in with me.

A week or two went by and I started to become suspicious about some, lets just say, inconsistencies in her story. After snooping around I got to the real truth.

She had heard that I was making a pretty good living and lived in a nice area of the city. So she got a positive pregnancy test from a friend who was really pregnant and then put on her whole deception show.

What her ultimate plan was, or how she thought I wouldn't figure it out, I have no idea.

Should be a crime.

[–]herewegoaga1n179 points180 points  (25 children) | Copy

Fraud. Plain and simple, which means it's completely fucked.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon156 points157 points  (23 children) | Copy

No, you misunderstand. Female crimes are not fraud. Women can lie, cheat, steal, misrepresent. All for financial gain, and society will deem it "not a crime".

This is why there are so few women in jail - everyone accepts female crimes as "that's just fine" but male crimes as "life sentence for you".

[–]NewestHouse97 points98 points  (9 children) | Copy

Women need "help and treatment", men need punishment. -western society

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon53 points54 points  (5 children) | Copy

Yup... women get support, men get blame.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/01/why-we-should-close-womens-prisons-and-treat-their-crimes-more-fairly

[–]NewestHouse41 points42 points  (3 children) | Copy

I read this a while ago and it fucking infuriated me.

"Women almost never scare us; commit random acts of serious violence; violate our sexual integrity; or form organised crime networks and yet their prisons numbers are now the highest in recorded history."

thats the first fucking line, "women never commit violent crime or rape or participate in organized crime, ALMOST NEVER. what a goddam fucking joke. The fantasy world feminists live in continues to astound me, yet it shouldn't...

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon30 points31 points  (1 child) | Copy

Women are guilty of constant proxy violence, more than half of domestic violence, and when they go mental are both fucking terrifying and have the full force of the law behind them.

In terms of not violating our sexual integrity - male sexual interests are expected to be ignored, sacrificed, used, abused and violated by society from the second we are born. Our sexual interests are deemed to be simply not valid, instead we are expected to sacrifice everything (including our lives) for the female imperative.

In terms of forming organised crime networks: feminism is an organisation designed to exploit men using threats of violence, emotional and economic abuse.

In other words: everything feminists say is completely true (including this particular white knight mangina) so long as you take the words and infer the exact opposite.

[–]NewestHouse3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

You explained everything perfectly here, well done. Proxy violence and domestic violence by women are ignored by feminists and the majority alike, its kind of astounding. The reality of how violent lesbian relationships are should be a huge galvanizing reality.....but it isnt.

[–]SACRlion4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

And women are never serial killers, and yet there is La Dama del Silencio in prison for killing 10 people.

[–]Redpillgawd1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

maybe because men know right from wrong and women are unsaveable better off hanging the repeated offenders

[–]starista0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Do you thing, just curious, that this is a problem we see as early as school aged girls/boys?

[–]NewestHouse0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Oh for sure, no doubt. Girls are generally seen as can do no harm and are treated accordingly. Boys are MUCH more likely to be suspended or expelled then girls and are punished more severely in pretty much any other instance. But of course this is because feminism is deeply entrenched in the education system, their values are put right into the schools codes, as well as feminist teachers/principals pushing their influence and bias. The whole system is so horribly twisted, it depresses me to think back to my elementary and highschool days, knowing what I know now, realizing why I was angry or sad or depressed and not knowing why back then. Whats worse is little boys today, things are even worse and getting worse every year.

[–]herewegoaga1n27 points28 points  (2 children) | Copy

r\pussypass is becoming less of a joke and more of a documentary.

[–]1-TheOutsid3r-7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Actually, it's that case for quite some time and longer than many of us have lived. Things started going astray somewhere in the 60s. Most of the feminist goals i.e equality before the law had been achieved way before it. Which means that breaking up fundamental necessities of a working society such as the nuclear family, second and third wave feminism and movements such as the Hippy/68th one pushed things way into absurdity.

We're being told that society is still as it was before the 60s but made to view that situation through the lense of the "education" we get to enjoy nowadays from kindergarden all the way through college.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

my second favorite sub, after avacadoporn.

[–]RadioactiveTentacles18 points19 points  (4 children) | Copy

Wait.. you mean to tell me that women are capable of having bad intentions?

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wait.. you mean to tell me that women are capable of having bad intentions?

Of course not, everyone knows that Women Are Wonderful, so anything bad they do must be your fault for being judgmental.

[–]-LiterallyHitler1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Women don't even have free will. They are slaves to their emotions. This is why they should not be allowed power over men. It's not good for either gender.

[–]RadioactiveTentacles0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So you're saying that women are actually sentient? I'm going to need a source.

[–]SpeakerToRedditors1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

This is what fries me about the feminine imperative saying that the proof men are evil and violent, because there are more men than women in jail/prison.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Men are bad, therefore imprison men. Men are in prison, therefore men are bad.

Women are good, therefore don't imprison them. There are no women in prison, therefore women are good.

One day the world will see.

[–]rn1ke 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

However, feminists now try to claim that lying about your financial status to get into bed with a woman is "rape"

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

lying about your n-count is fine though of course...

[–]Gadnuk_47 points48 points  (14 children) | Copy

I've seen this before, the old double down trick. If they can convince you they're already pregnant then you've got less reason to use protection as the damage is already done (apparently). Then she ACTUALLY gets pregnant and locks down resources, leaving the beta schlub none the wiser about her ruse.

[–]rundownweather28 points29 points  (13 children) | Copy

It's quite brilliant when you think about it. I'm convinced women actually sit down with each other and think these strategies up together, a single person wouldn't be able to be this deceptive.

[–]smartscience25 points26 points  (4 children) | Copy

It would certainly explain why they can genuinely think (maybe) that men sit down and plot schemes to maintain their privilege and power...

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (3 children) | Copy

This is why (or part of why) feminists were so determined to break in to gentlemen's clubs. They were convinced that the men in there were plotting with each other to keep the opposite sex down. They thought that because that is what women would do - and in fact were doing. The other part of it is because rather than build up their own companies and social structures, it was much easier and more fruitful to parasitize the companies, organizations and social structures built by men. Which actually I would not object to if they didn't trash them in the process.

[–]kayne20005 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

you are spot on Sawagurumi.

it's important we impart this knowledge to the young ones as slyly as possible too.

for instance....I was playing video games with my 5 year old nephew....boys that age, even if already partly brainwashed can be great fun. the boy wanted to show his grandma something, grandma was being slow, so I told him go down and get her because you know women like to talk a lot. its a small point or another time his mother was saying how its so hard to make sure you raise them right...subtle influences and all....the boy was there and i mentioned one subtle influence was the boy had learned from TV girls hit as hard as boys....i corrected that then and there and used it to answer the mothers question about subtle brainwashing.

throw it in there slyly gentlemen. it might be the only way.

boys even if they are young and already partly gotten too....they still havent at a young age had their natural "I want a boys only club" beaten out of them just yet....they will look up too and respect you.

[–]TomRoberts20161 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Divide and conquer.

You're absolutely right.

Women try to demonize and destroy TRP forums/groups.

Try to infiltrate men's only spaces.

Call male friendships "bromances" aka try to shame men and call them gay for having male friends.

Women are smart like that.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Had never thought about it this way. Pretty smart.

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (4 children) | Copy

They do. There are groups where they discuss how to sabotage condoms, for example, and women are quite free with 'advice on how to lock him down'. There is no honour here.

Some classics are where the NBA issued a warning to their players in 2004 to dispose of condoms down the loo, not just in the trash, after a rash of cases where women had fished them out of the trash and impregnated themselves. Naturally, the cuck femcentric judges decided that the players were still on the hook for child support, instead of finding the women guilty of fraud and coercion. This is why you provide your own condoms (don't leave them at her place, subtle work with nail scissors works wonders), and you either flush them or put tabasco or bleach into them before putting into the trash.

Another case was where a couple decided to get married on the firm understanding that neither wanted children. A few months later the woman changed her mind, so she 'forgot' to take her pill. This went on, and she didn't get pregnant. When she finally brought this up, the guy told her that he had a vasectomy. She was furious, and the studio audience sided with her, even though she was trying to fraudulently get him on the hook for paying for a child for 18 years and he did nothing that was not in keeping with their agreement.

Here is another studio audience, note how they support a woman deciding to come off the pill without telling her husband (and how she discussed it with her friends): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CNHwhHWPoQ the hostesses opinion is that it is fine because 'men are not in control of women's bodies', but women are in control of men's finances, right?

[–]sharp712 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Its shit like this that makes me think masterbation was the most important invention for man. Imagine you couldn't fap and had to fuck every fuckin time to get off, much harder to avoid pregnancies.

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[–]jrrtrp815 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

When talking NBA that sperm is worth 6 - 7 figures....

[–]TomRoberts20160 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Get a vasectomy and put mint in there.

[–]yomo860 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You might have had a chance to get a glance of this behaviour. Whenever she is asking for 'male' advice it is for a scheme or manipulation tactic. It is never intended to give her a deeper understanding of the male psyche.

Now think about the talk women have among each other.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I can confirm they do from experience 20+ yrs ago.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRunawayGrain31 points32 points  (5 children) | Copy

What her ultimate plan was, or how she thought I wouldn't figure it out, I have no idea.

Either actually get knocked up by you, or the good old 'miscarriage' fallback.

[–]1AmlanceJockey22 points23 points  (4 children) | Copy

Don't forget about a good ol fashion cucking.

But, I think the miscarriage route is one of the most effective routes. She extracts commitment by using a man's tendency to "cowboy up". The man didn't want to be with the chick for atleast 18 years but men tend to clean up their own messes. So he moves her in, marries her so she can get prenatal care with his insurance, and finds himself settled down before he knows it. Then the miscarriage. She activates his protective instinct. He emotionally invests in her. He wants to console her. And what's most fucked up, while she knows she is faking, he actually thinks he lost a child. Shared hardship makes men bond. So she's got him hook line and sinker. A dastardly plot to enslave and trap him in a relationship.

Don't be mad at her. The way her brain works, she doesn't consciously know what she's doing. From her perspective she is just testing him to see if he would stick around. Well once he passes the test she can't reveal the lie so she needs another out.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen27 points28 points  (3 children) | Copy

Don't be mad at her. The way her brain works, she doesn't consciously know what she's doing.

No. This is just handing out the pussypass under another prerequisite.

Just because you are influenced by your programming does not mean that you aren't able to act against your instincts.

I could fuck 24/7 and I see at least 20 strange women a day who sexually arouse me. So because I can't help that arousal I am allowed to use my MMA-trained 230lbs body to submit these bitches and rape the living shit out of them? Probably not.

Part of our society's problem is that men unlearned how to teach women about options and consequences.

Be fucking mad at them and do your good deed and teach them right from wrong. If you won't, who will?

[–]sharp77 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

It is absolutely true that we have forgotten how to teach women of consequences. Get fucked and abused by a douche bag? Instead of learning to choose better they expect betas to just fix the baggage so they can go out and get abused somemore. I've seen a girl do this several times in a row. Fuckin ridiculous.

[–]1AmlanceJockey3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

She knows what she's doing on some level. But, she rationalizes and hamsters so much, that if you could read her mind i expect you would find more I deserve this and relationship feelz and less enslavement protocol initiated.

I agree we dont hold them to a high standard. But, until we do, the idea that doing something could be wrong or bad will not cross their mind. It doesnt exist to them.

[–]TomRoberts20160 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That's why it's good men have forums like these to talk to each other on.

Best thing is to stay informed and be aware of their behavior, and watch out for tricks from deceptive women.

I say deceptive women because N.A.W.A.L.T.

(cough cough)

[–]yomo8610 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

You can even order those positive pregnancy tests online.

I dont want to live on this planet anymore

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

You can also buy fake birth control pills on the internet, so she can take it right in front of you for that extra bit of convincing. 'You don't need a condom, honey! See, I just took my pill!". Women are Machiavellian by instinct.

[–]beachbbqlover1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Even DNA paternity tests from your doctor may be intentionally manipulated to lock you in.

[–]TedTheAtheist6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Girls will tell you they are pregnant when they aren't, just so you'll start fucking them and not caring, thus REALLY impregnating them. I've had a girl try this on me before. Bitch finally came clean when she wasn't getting knocked up.

[–]NightGod82 points83 points  (15 children) | Copy

The plan was "we don't need condoms honey, it's not like I can get MORE pregnant!" giggle And then the baby is born a month or two "premature" and looks surprisingly full term.

[–]dkbuss 186 points186 points [recovered] | Copy

It would be born late then....

[–]Aziz_9236 points37 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yea, wtf? Had me questioning my sanity for a few seconds.

[–]behenchodd6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

once knocked up, what choice do u have really.

[–]NightGod14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oh yeah, bad early morning math on my part, but the same concept.

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[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Normally a baby cover up story involves a woman who cheats and gets pregnant, then start fucks her husband again to pretend that he got her pregnant. In this case the baby would be born before the father's expectations because he isn't the actual father. She was already pregnant from someone else though. She would say that the baby is 'premature' after it's born early to quell his suspicion but it would obviously look full term.

This is the usual case, but in this special case the woman is pretending to be pregnant when she isn't actually. It's almost the opposite scenario. What she's trying to do here is convince the dude to invest more and cum inside her to fulfill her goal of actually getting pregnant. If he does get her pregnant at this time then the baby will be born later than he expected since he was led to believe that she was already pregnant.

You're making the same logical mistake as NightGod.

Here's a simple illustration of the two situations:

Woman cheats and is filled with stranger's baby batter > woman fucks husband as cover story > woman publicly announces she's pregnant > woman gives birth to stranger's baby > husband suspicious of early birth > "Hubby, the baby was premature!"

Woman wants to lock down alpha > woman pretends she's pregnant > woman convinces him to fuck without protection > woman actually gets pregnant > expected birth date passes > woman finally gives birth to alpha's baby > alpha suspicious of late birth > "Alpha, the baby was just a little later than expected!"

I made bold the act of conception and her bullshit reasoning.

TLDR: If your baby only takes 6 months and looks like a healthy full term (black) baby then you're probably a cuck. If your baby takes 13 months and you've caught her stuffing your used condoms in every orifice of her body than she's trying to lock you down.

[–]trpthrowaway18522 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's some ELI5 shit right there. Here's my upvote.

[–]dkbuss 4 points4 points [recovered] | Copy

What you are saying makes no sense at all. This place has become so embarrassing lately

[–]TomRoberts2016-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Doesn't matter still got laid(pregnant).

http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/63c/f7b/321/resized/pigeon-meme-generator-doesn-t-matter-had-sex-64daab.jpg?1357246297.jpg

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Then she confesses to you she's actually from Mars, where they have 11 months pregnancy periods.

[–]aanarchist8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

idk about you but my feelings would be hurt.

[–]aussydog0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The next phase would have been just to eat a little more and pudge up a little bit. After that claim that she had a miscarriage. As if you'd ask for proof? "Where's the blood clots and bits of fetus!" Not likely right?

Easier still..claim she had the miscarriage at work...even better...yeah for sick days!

After that try to emotionally blackmail you into loving her forever n ever n ever....since you both experienced this "tragic loss" together.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I would of made her take another one in front of me

[–]jav2530 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah that sounds like the first course of action any dude should take when told this. And DNA test always.

[–]-LiterallyHitler0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She would probably have tried to get pregnant for real. "Come on anon, lets have sex without a condom! I'm already pregnant!"

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'll bet she ws more than willing to let you barebakc her too, since she was pregnant

friend of mine had one of those from a 35 year old logistics officer... He says he was smart enough to get the test, and his father made sure it happened.

you won't aways win em, but he had the right idea

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There should at least be some offender list so one can make sure theyre not dating a chick with a psycho record.

[–]trpthrowaway1852459 points460 points  (93 children) | Copy

https://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sea/274495936.html?lang=en&cc=us

Reminds me of this epic post.

[–]random13571357[S] 256 points257 points  (44 children) | Copy

That is epic.

Mine was a lot different, as soon as she told me through txt, because I wouldn't meet her in person.

I told her I was not the father and not to contact me again, all messages and calls were then ignored. She has been dragging my name through the mud on social media with an angry horde of women demanding my head. (according to a close friend who has her added, and her brother even threatened violence if I dont do the right thing.)

Cms contacted me 3 months ago in regards to a child a woman was claiming was mine, and I had a time limit to reply as to whether the child was mine. I confirmed that I was not the father and was willing to submit to a dna test and provide proof of my vasectomy.

Dna test was scheduled and I had to pay for it.

I recieved the letter 2 days ago confirming I was not the father and now I am trying to claim the cost of the paternity test back off the cms people.

[–]solidsnork95 points96 points  (25 children) | Copy

What would they do if you refused to submit a test unless they paid for it first? It seems illegal that just because you would deny a test they would just declare you the father.

[–]random13571357[S] 134 points135 points  (16 children) | Copy

The test was £365 and while I had no problems paying that sum I imagine there are individuals who couldn't.

I don't know the outcome if you cannot afford it.

[–]herewegoaga1n145 points146 points  (10 children) | Copy

I don't know the outcome if you cannot afford it.

We know, it's just too terrible to fathom.

[–]nezamestnany95 points96 points  (6 children) | Copy

Actually not that bad in the UK, which is where op is

If you can’t pay for the DNA test, the CMS will pay the fee for you. But if the test shows that you’re the father of the child, you’ll have to repay this money.

Source

[–]AskYouEverything71 points72 points  (4 children) | Copy

That's like, entirely not bad. That's pretty damn good actually

[–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (3 children) | Copy

It's the tax payers who end up paying for it when the woman is lying, so I don't know how good that is.

[–]AskYouEverything15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

Taxpayer dollars to help child support be a functioning thing rather than a burden on any or all parties involved? A pro-feminist society having to monetarily support a set of pro-feminist laws? the horror

Just to be clear: I was saying that it was the best case scenario for the male involved

[–]Swelfie1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Really, it should be her that pays if it's not yours.

[–]rundownweather9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

If you couldn't muster 300 odd pounds on short notice, I don't think women would have much to do with you.

[–]1Your_Coke_Dealer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes you do. If you can't pay that, you can't pay child support either. The state picks up the cost out of your tax dollars

[–]nezamestnany13 points14 points  (2 children) | Copy

According to the uk citizens advice page

If you can’t pay for the DNA test, the CMS will pay the fee for you. But if the test shows that you’re the father of the child, you’ll have to repay this money.

[–]beachbbqlover0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

If you can't pay for it and have to repay it later and have child support, what are the chances you can afford to feed the provider of all this money?

[–]nezamestnany0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you aren't making any money then you won't have to pay any child support

[–]trippinallday11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

Even if you can't afford it now you have to find some way to get the cash, as you sure as hell won't be able to afford supporting the child for the next 18 years.

[–]TedTheAtheist0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I would just tell them that I can't afford it if I knew it wasn't mine, and be done with it.

I would want someone to pay me for my time, especially if it's during working hours.

[–]Bonesteel50-4 points-3 points  (7 children) | Copy

They can just declare you the father on the mothers word.

[–]yomo863 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy

This is wrong.

The rule of presumed fatherhood - in respect to the countries I know the law of - is only applied if you a) either married or - and this depends on the state - b) you had intercourse with the women during the time of the conception and she determines you are the father. If you are really sterile. Deny, Deny, Deny everything. Do not cohabitat. Get a semen count every year ($ 20).

Furthermore if those 2 rules do not apply to you because you are a single non-cohabitating bachelor, lean back.

DNA tests are an invasion of privacy hence require a court order.

The courts want to be paid, so she has to file a motion against you. Deny, deny, deny. Then they are stuck with the court fees as well.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRunawayGrain9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

It works a couple of ways here in the states. If she has the kid, she can just go to CPS and name you as the father. CPS then grants her support, and sues the named father in court for the child support. You are automatically assumed to be the father until you prove that you are not the father. You may even have to pay support while you wait to prove you are not the father. At this point if you ignore it you will legally get tagged as the daddy, and are on the hook for support. If you get tagged as the father, and produce DNA evidence that you are not the father later on, with the exception of a few states, you will continue to have to pay support as you have, in a legal sense, been declared the father.

In some states the potential father can challenge a support ruling even after signing a birth certificate, but he has to prove he didn't know the kid wasn't his and has to have DNA evidence to prove non paternity. Furthermore the cucked father can sue the biological father if he can prove that the biological father knew the kid was his, and defrauded the cuck father into caring for the child. At least one state has had cases of a cuck father trying to sue the mom for the support rendered.

DNA testing is an invasion of privacy, but more often than not the courts will order one just to clear up paternity. Had it happen to me, even though there was absolutely no way the kid could have been mine due to geographical separation.

[–]Eyes_Of_The_Dragon6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is why it is key to know the laws in your state.

[–]Bonesteel502 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

http://www.wxyz.com/news/judge-says-man-must-pay-30k-in-child-support-for-kid-who-is-not-his

[–]pidnull1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Anyone know if this guy paid?

[–]WAFC1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

http://thechildsupporthustle.com/3/post/2015/11/-victory-for-a-victim-of-paternity-fraud.html

All I could find. Don't know how legit.

[–]RadioactiveTentacles0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

While this is true, you can also demand a DNA test, or prove that you are sterile, one. Then you're released of responsibility.

[–]aanarchist86 points87 points  (11 children) | Copy

DO THE RIGHT THING MANLET. i don't understand how retarded someone has to be to not understand that even if she was pregnant and the man wanted nothing to do with her, that it's on her for gobbling the dick of someone who doesn't give a shit about her. any woman could have a responsible man in her life to take care of her and father her children, inside of 2 weeks of looking. "deadbeat" dads exist because that is what women want.

[–]Eyes_Of_The_Dragon71 points72 points  (9 children) | Copy

As a society we choose not to make women accountable for their actions. This needs to change.

[–]NiceKicksGabe47 points48 points  (1 child) | Copy

Thomas Sowell said it best. If a group is used to preferential treatment, equality starts to feels like discrimination.

[–]KorianHUN46 points47 points  (3 children) | Copy

Women are too weak to work and too stupid to think for themselves. At least that is what FEMINISTS say.

[–]_LuckyDucky_15 points16 points  (2 children) | Copy

It's why I'm an egalitarian even if I am a woman, I do not agree that women are too weak or stupid. Feminists are poison.

[–]NewestHouse14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

Feminists are CANCER, a parasite living off the host (first world nations) and it is in the process of killing off its hosts, mainly in europe, but the death will spread.

[–]RadioactiveTentacles10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

Unfortunately, this probably isn't going to happen, because pretty much all of western society is too concerned with being politically correct that they baby women in the name of feminism. Women are immune to pretty much anything unless you're willing to break your back for it.

[–]CrashXXL5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's why I'm voting for Trump.

[–]alecesne3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

But that's where new troops come from!

[–]verify_account-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

OP is over 5'10". He is not a manlet.

[–]PolishHypocrisy4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

now I am trying to claim the cost of the paternity test back off the cms people.

Good luck , I feel if you were then you should have to pay for the test but you weren't so hope you get it back

[–]kofybean0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Did you screen shot all the hate you received, and repost it on social media with the P-test?

[–]Swelfie0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I got the call once from a cute 24 year old. I put her on speaker, muted and my roommate and I poured shots while listening to her plans for us to be together and raise this child. She got really upset when I told her it wasn't mine. We let her go for about 30 minutes, laughing and toasting. Finally I told her I was sterile and the silence on the phone was glorious.

She "miscarried" a couple weeks later. I still kept her around as a plate for a bit until she locked down some other guy.

[–]Bearhardy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Pretty smart not taking any chances there, if you did meet her in person things could go south pretty fast, good thinking.

[–]MessyEnema56 points57 points  (12 children) | Copy

The only thing he did wrong, was the final fuck.

Her backup move is a false rape accusation.

[–]KorianHUN19 points20 points  (11 children) | Copy

Rape accusation is like pulling out a card form your sleeve in most western countries. Until everyone sees it was false (video record of the male or female being in public space during the time when the rape allegedly happened), the female always wins. Except if the accused male is rich enough or has good enough connections.

[–]_LuckyDucky_ 10 points10 points [recovered] | Copy

You don't know about the true statistics here do you? It's a very small percentage of successful rape prosecutions and there are no winners in rape.

[–]redzorp61 points62 points  (7 children) | Copy

The false-accuser always wins in the court of public opinion, even if she LOSES in court.

Just to name one quick example - Canadian TV celebrity Jian Ghomeshi. He was recently cleared in court of any wrongdoing. His accusers were even shown to be liars in open testimony. The result? The entire Canadian media, political and celebrity establishment STILL smear Ghomeshi as a sex offender while his "victims" are STILL treated as poor vulnerable women who were wronged by the big bad wolf.

A false rape accusation is indeed a trump card for women in the West.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy

It doesn't even have to come from the woman. In the UK we have a feminist Director of Public Prosecutions who pressures the police to bring more rape convictions (because, you know, 'rape culture'). In the Ched Evans case, the woman had a few drinks (and therefore the goto excuse these days, 'she couldn't remember') and he was found guilty of rape and sent to prison. However, in the morning she had sent texts to friends claiming to have 'scored big' by sleeping with two professional footballers, and she only went to the police to report that she lost her handbag. When she gave the details and it came out that she had been drunk when she had sex, the police then brought rape charges.

[–]CrashXXL3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

holy fuck...someone shoot that bitch.

[–]redzorp1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Man, that's just insane. Almost on par with that other UK case where a guy was charged with rape after he and a woman (hasbeen actress) merely brushed by each other in the London tube. Total time of contact was like 1 second of arm-to-arm contact, fully clothed of course. There was even CCTV video of the "incident" showing that it was a non-event and prosecutors STILL dragged the poor guy through court!

In Canada there are feminist activists groups that are currently lobbying to prevent "next morning texts" from even being admissible into evidence during a rape trial! Completely and utterly nuts. But they will probably get away with it, given the current climate.

Sometimes I wonder how any of this is even possible. Are human beings just completely and utterly insane? Not just women - but men for going along with all of this.

MGTOW looks better every day...

[–]_LuckyDucky_8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yes, that it is. I hope that it changes.

[–]sharp70 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

What if you got a diagnosis of erectile dysfunction. You could whip that out any time.

[–]redzorp2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

When you "whip it out" you will be accused of rape.

[–]TomRoberts20161 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

So secretly recording sex isn't a perverted thing anymore.

It's insurance against false rape accusations.

[–]KorianHUN1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

At least now you can thank the government for all that surveilance! /s

[–]joeyjojosharknado71 points72 points  (24 children) | Copy

The thing that gets me is no matter how spiteful, deceptive or downright evil women can be, they always act like butter won't melt in their mouths. No, worse than that, there is an absolute disconnect between their behaviour/actions and how they perceive themselves. In a man that would be borderline sociopathy, but for a woman it's SOP. This is why they can behave in the most reprehensible fashion without it even being the tiniest blip on their moral radar. I know, I know, sidebar, hamster etc. Logically I get all that, but emotionally the outright, in-your-face hypocrisy and entitlement still staggers me sometimes.

[–]aanarchist33 points34 points  (14 children) | Copy

that's because if they stopped for a moment and considered who they really are based on their behavior, they couldn't live with the guilt and we'd have what like a 70% female suicide rate.

[–]KorianHUN20 points21 points  (13 children) | Copy

But this is because society mostly allows them to do this. Most people defend them and think of them as mentally challenged children. If this would stop they would behave differently.

[–][deleted] 54 points55 points  (7 children) | Copy

It's evolution. Seriously. Try to pin down a woman logically and she'll hamster like it's a Martial art. If you finally get her pinned down she'll just be angry at you for making her feel bad. If by some miracle you get her to accept her behavior for what it is give it a week... or an hour and see if she still sees it that way. (Here's a hint, she won't.)

Women have evolved to be able to do terrible things (from a moral standpoint, but very effective in passing on genes) and not kill themselves for it. Thus evolved the hamster. Men have evolved to solve problems and be strong and inventive which requires consistency of thought and action. This is why a masculine man can cut through bullshit has great spacial awareness, creativity, etc. We are the strange ones for being aware of our nature. Our species alone is self aware, and just barely.

We invented fire, they let the wolves eat their husband so they could fuck the guy who invented fire instead. But her last husband was abusive and was terrible at hunting and she was feeling neglected and the wolves were scary so she just ran and couldn't help it. :((

Most people defend them and think of them as mentally challenged children.

This last part isn't true btw. You're right that they are defended, but most people actually treat men like mentally challenged idiots and women like gods of justice and peace. They're so strong and independent. She must have a really valid reason for throwing her husband off a cliff. The only people who see women as they are (mentally challenged children) are in this sub.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy

As I said before, men evolved to extract value from their environment; women evolved to extract value from men. How do you extract value from men? By deception, by knowing how to manipulate people's feelings and get the tribe on your side to back you up.

But if you are a man in a hunting party or war party, this has no place. You are either there at the kill or you are not, you can't pretend. People either rely on you, or they pretty soon find out that you cannot be relied on. Jack Donovan wrote about that stuff.

[–]kayne20000 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

women evolved to extract value from men.

I've got to slightly disagree with this....women not only do this BUT the reason and the sole reason their brains lack any sense of logic is because they are designed to be mothers....one of the key traits of motherhood is being able to feel your babies emotions.

what cry that sounds identical to the next cry and how those two mean different things. any man will not be able to tell the difference between a general cry, a hungry cry, and an upset cry yet a woman with no effort at all can figure this out.

women need to naturally behave and act like children for it is literally the only way to raise children. it is why women are children logically speaking. though they are smarter than a child yes, their logic is not more than that of a child.

it simply isnt or else there would be no way to raise children.

and this child like logic is why they deceive others so easily(notice children will do the same)....however women being adults, they know they are the smaller and weaker sex, so like the smaller and weaker child, they will do anything to get their way and don't think they do anything wrong.

it really comes down to the fact women are mothers and what motherhood actually entails. that is the driving force to female logic. even their need to secure a man's resources....they are no more independent than children(well okay, they are a bit more independent than children but you get my point).

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Well, I agree with you entirely, but it doesn't look like you actually disagreed with me. I'm not saying that they are 'evil' to extract resources from men (over the history of our species, that is, I'm not talking specifically about now). I think it was actually essential given the sex-specific roles that were adopted, and those were successful roles, making us one of the dominant species on the planet. We are inherently a species that lives in small tribal groups in a hostile environment. It doesn't look like that now, with vast urban civilizations, but that has happened very recently. Women did most of the foraging and looked after the children (particularly the young children, older boys would progressively spend more time with the men). Men hunted and defended the perimeter against predators and enemies. Given the time that human children need to become independent, it was inevitable that women would have to forgo the arduous and potentially dangerous tasks, which in turn got the most valuable food (meat). So it was reasonable to share out tasks, and for women to evolve means to get men to give them protection and share the high-value food. Nothing wrong with that at all, but the result was that women learned to be manipulative, to use their lower sex drive to get an advantageous position (they were always the most privileged class in society, when you looked beyond the obvious). In today's society this is not to men's advantage, because women have abused the privilege. They no longer are so willing to fulfill their role as wife and mother, and therefore it makes sense for men to scale back their investment too. Part of this is recognising when and how women manipulate.

It is also because women are less physically powerful than men that they became naturally Machiavellian. They used a subtle, indirect form of power to get what they wanted.

As for women being more childlike, yes, and to me (when it isn't actually childishness) it is an attractive feature. Women can spend hours with young children doing the same thing over and over and not get bored. On the other hand, many native tribes understood that there came a time in a young boy's life when he needed to be separated from the influence of his mother and learn to become a man. That process no longer happens.

[–]kayne20000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

you are right...I don't really disagree with you, and probably could have phrased that better....that being said, I was mostly trying to elaborate on the fact that women dont behave the way they do because they want more resources from men and are underhanded....they do it because they are childish, which childishness endears them to children and makes them mothers. and that is the driving force behind "female logic".

i really only felt compelled to write that all because too often i see women get blamed as being underhanded just to thief resources, when in reality it isnt that, it is just their natural childish motherhood instincts at play that drives this behavior rather than some underhanded plot against men....not to be confused with the grand liberal feminist conspiracy taking over the world, which was instigated by men first and foremost.

I dont know who told it to me before or where i read it but they basically said....nature tends not to give in excess, and it doesnt take intelligence to bear children, so women lack intelligence as it is not necessary. men unable to bear children, need intelligence as a matter of practical use for their species, so men get intelligence.

it goes along with another fun quote...."It is theoretically possible for a beautiful woman to have less intelligence than a chimpanzee and still be considered a productive member of society"

[–]kayne20000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'll simply add one last thing....women while they generally lack intelligence are not all together stupid.

many older women, think 70+ are actually quite wise in their sphere of understanding. Mom who is 70+, can treat many bumps bruises and scratches that she learned while caring for children. she has learned many tricks to make food taste noticeably better than it would otherwise. She knows many home remedies for sickness. she understands the value of family traditions and laments feminism an the general decay of the family unit....even if she thinks girls should be able to whatever they want, she more often than not admits, girls should be mothers first and foremost and half of the time grasp why working and motherhood clash.

in general older women, from stable marriages(50 years in this case), tend to have a certain grandmotherly wisdom to them.

so women can acquire wisdom under the right circumstances...but they just need to stay at home to acquire it.

[–]Alphaemote 2 points2 points [recovered] | Copy

I've sidebar'd to death. I've come to know, then hate, then love hamster.

However, this passage is the first time I've truly, truly got it. Thanks for the words that finally got it into my head. Great post.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I appreciate the feedback. I've been around for 2-3 years now, lurking then contributing. It's helped me in a lot of ways. Stick around man. This sub will burn away the bullshit in your life with the light of truth.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I would honestly like to see a pyschology book written that can be read by an 18 year old with fair ease that essentially would attack the female personality and why it's so fucked.

[–]KorianHUN1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

In Hungary i noticed that many people have an "internalized redpill" philosophy. They don't call it that they just... evolved it? I don't know how to say it. It is like a bunch of people here without ever talking about it know that how this works. I had a classmate who perfectly described how to get a random woman anywhere to like you. He just knew it.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Rollo does a pretty good job. Try the rational male.

[–]JihadDerp13 points14 points  (7 children) | Copy

The difference between women and men: women lack reason and accountability.

[–]JourneymanTRP13 points14 points  (4 children) | Copy

Accountability. Women's actions are like children's simply because they haven't been shown that people wont put up with their shit

[–]WillSmokeStaleCigs6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

I was just saying this yesterday. A dent showed up on my car with a yellow paint scuff, when I was parked right next to a yellow volkswagen beetle. The dent was NOT there before. This woman had the audacity to tell me to my face that she didn't do it. I know she is lying, but there is nothing I can do because I dont have a witness to the incident.

[–]1AmlanceJockey1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I get not admitting to it. Its a shitty thing to do but atleast its logical. What i don't get is why she doesn't park somewhere else. Jesus christ

[–]WillSmokeStaleCigs1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This woman was a complete goober. I agree, if I was going to try to deny doing it I'd at least move my car.

[–]snorted_the_red_pill1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability.

[–]psycho-logical0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Women do not lack accountability. No one holds them to it.

Same goes for the rich and powerful. They lack accountability because they can afford to.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Heart of the problem, right there. Because you know, lots of women aren't totally selfish, untrustworthy, manipulative scumbags. We hear lots about women that are, but many women are not. The problem is, how the hell do you know? They are such good liers, I'm sure men who got taken for a ride (let's say, a certain Mr Depp) never imagined that his woman was like that, she was sweet and loving and attentive and butter wouldn't melt it her mouth. So what do you do? You just can't trust any of them, you have to scale back on commitment, make sure you are not vulnerable. Women can only blame themselves for this state of affairs.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

This should be required reading material for every male when they reach 18.

[–]Gawernator5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

That was epic indeed. Ahahah. Hopefully it was true

[–]looc220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I've never seen that, damn is that a good stroke of karma for you.

[–]SirGainz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This makes me want a vasectomy, seems like a solid investment.. like kanye said "she got you for 18 years."

[–]officerkondo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

As I was reading this great hit of Craig's List, I got the call from my urologist's office. Second consecutive test of no sperm. What an outcome for National Sex Day.

[–]bustedcougar0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That reads like a male version of the "gasp and clap".

[–]Newbosterone0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I assumed that after 30, women stopped going after musicians, bikers, criminals, and thugs. Silly me for thinking the best of American women.

As Bob Seger sang, I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.

[–]Subtletorious125 points126 points  (2 children) | Copy

HER: I'm pregnant!

HIM: That's fantastic. If it's a girl you can name her Vasectomy.

[–]doffensmush0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Good one mate, have my upvote

[–][deleted] 251 points252 points  (71 children) | Copy

All I can say is... BOOM SHAKALAKA.

Telling them you're not the father is like fishing with TNT. So easy and so overkill in crushing their lies with that ammo.

Not sure if it was this forum or not, but I read a great story about someone in your situation who played with the situation much more deviously. To make it short, he asked his gf every month if it was his once she got pregnant. She always replied yes. Little did she know that he had his vasectomy and kept it a secret. Finally when she was in the third trimester or so he was at her parents house for Xmas or something. He asked her if she's ever cheated on him, she said no.

Finally, his plan came out like a Magicians final act. He had all the documents in order from his lawyer that he had been in contact with months prior. In front of her parents he asked one more time if she had ever cheated on him, she told him no. He then pulled the rabbit out of his hat and explained how he had a vasectomy years ago and that it couldn't possibly be his. All this as she told a bold faced lie in front of her parents. He handed her the documents and told the family that if she ever contacts him again he'll be contacting his lawyer. What a boss.

[–][deleted] 133 points134 points  (24 children) | Copy

A friend of mine had a daughter with his wife. He got a secret vasectomy. After his divorce he had a string of girlfriends all wanting to get pregnant. When the girlfriends couldn't get pregnant, he would say, "it's not me, I have a daughter, we are going to have to try harder".

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[–][deleted] 102 points103 points  (2 children) | Copy

Absolutely a dick move. We laughed about it many times.

[–]Izzenw27 points28 points  (0 children) | Copy

Absolutely a dick move. We laughed about it many times.

Literally a dick move. I would do that as much as I'm laughing about it.

[–]Peter_Principle_24 points25 points  (11 children) | Copy

Sound's like fraud to me.

Compared to "child" support debtors prisons, income imputation and rape shield laws? Shrug-worthy.

[–]broken26 10 points10 points [recovered] | Copy

Thats what separates us from them, You don't act like a child in response to them. Aren't we better than that? Sure TRP is about sexual strategy, but it's not about lying to get laid, its about self improvement to get laid.

[–]Man_Jose22 points23 points  (5 children) | Copy

I used to think like you. High moral ground. Then I realized that we're practically living a modern world with medieval humans. Once I truly swallowed the pill, I started caring more about my family, my parents, siblings, cousins more than the random chick who, until proven, doesn't deserve my trust. I still don't lie much but I keep my cards close.

This is modern day Game of Thrones. Relationships are the biggest window to exposing you to legal fraud.

[–]snorted_the_red_pill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Family is important.

[–]broken26 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

There is a difference in keeping plates and them sticking to you thinking you might start to become a provider, but you just pass onto more plates. But outright keeping someone on the fact you are actively trying to have a child with someone when you are infertile is different. You are wasting their time and yours. At that point its not a random chick, its a SO.

Obviously people have varying opinions so after this post i'm not going to bother explaining my point of view further and leave it at that.

[–]Man_Jose2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

I could say the same about women.

There is a difference in being pregnant by having sex with you versus being pregnant from somebody else and still claiming the father is you.

You see the point? Men doing this is called fraud. You yourself are calling it fraud. Understand that you are calling fraud because you are a caring good person. Women doing such fraud would require a shit load of documentation and paternity tests. They participate in such fraud a hell lot more than men.

One part of red pill is self improvement. The other part is REALLY opening eyes to unfairness.

Nobody is advising anybody to get vasectomy and actually defrauding the SO. But examples like this open our eyes for what it really is. A man committing fraud is shit. Women committing fraud is legally acceptable.

Beta dudes are really good humans. They believe in doing good things overall. But that exposes them to fraud by not understanding unfairness.

I strongly suggest more examples like this coming to light. If more such things come to light, more betas will be awakened and laws (hopefully) would change for the better in future.

[–]sharp7-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

Its pretty fucked to go "this one woman tricked this one dude so its fine if I trick this one completely other woman who might be a decent person" this cycle of fraud is what makes people do fucked up shit in the first place because they think its okay cause they got fucked before. Imagine you got mugged or stolen from and the other guy was just like "well someone else mugged me once!" As an excuse its absolutely ridiculous.

Fucked up behavior is fucked up. Your just hamstering it away yourself. Of course go ahead and be immoral if it benefits you who cares. But, from my exp in the long run itll fuck with you some way or another. The problem with immoral behavior is that it is unsustainable.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Completely agree.

Hey Why I cannot lock you down yet? We need to get marry so I can divorce you. Then you will pay me alimony, child support and half of your house.

[–]Peter_Principle_7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Aren't we better than that?

Obviously. A minor trick doesn't even compare to legalized extortion or imprisoning the innocent.

[–]TomRoberts20161 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Quote from Bruce Lee on fighting, "Forget about winning and losing; forget about pride and pain. Let your opponent graze your skin and you smash into his flesh; let him smash into your flesh and you fracture his bones; let him fracture your bones and you take his life. Do not be concerned with escaping safely — lay your life before him."

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

... and abortion rights (female), abortion non-rights (male), paternity non-rights (male), child support income rights (female), increased prison sentences (male), decreased conviction rates (female), increased life expectancy (female of course)...

yup, big shrug from me too on this

[–]RedSugarPill11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Honestly that still is a dick move to do. Don't waste someone elses time for sex when they want a child. Sound's like fraud to me.

Seriously? Who let the morality police in here? Show us your tits or get the fuck out.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sound's like fraud to me.

Ahhh piss off. Women don't have the right to our children, women lie to us, women cheat on us. Everybody lies. Everybody gets their time wasted. If we're honest, we're playing from a weak position. A little bit of "gamesmanship" is fine - it's what we have to do to even begin to equalise the appalling position that Western society has put us in.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

How do you describe women keep men waiting and line up for sex? Sounds like a fraud to me too.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Because women are just angels ready to selflessly love and respect you no matter what. Right.

[–]TedTheAtheist1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm worried that after I get the clamp or whatever I do to fix making good sperm, that I won't see sex as much fun.

For some reason, having the chance to knock up a girl kind of is a turn on. I wonder if I'll lose this psychological thing after I get fixed. Stupid of me, I know..but it's there. Damn biology?

[–]Blackbeard34520 points21 points  (28 children) | Copy

Damn what happen after? What was their reaction?

[–]aanarchist83 points84 points  (25 children) | Copy

shaming the man for being an asshole, obviously

[–][deleted] 98 points99 points  (23 children) | Copy

Do not mistake my post for blue pill whiny justification.

Yes, she is the colossal cunt in this story and deserves her comeuppance - but he is not guilt-free. He had a chance to call her out early enough for her to abort. He didn't. In a way that dude did add one more fatherless single-parent child to the world that will statistically grow up in misery. He's obviously not 10/10 responsible as she is and there are no legal or monetary implications, but it's still a dick move. Not 10/10 dick, but at least a 3/10.

Please people, take a step back and look at the bigger picture sometimes.

[–]aanarchist53 points54 points  (5 children) | Copy

i'm all about the big picture you're in good company brother.

the thing is, he did the right thing imo. she needed to be disgraced in front of her parents, and her parents needed to see just how much of a failure they were in raising their daughter. the light of truth is never pretty, but it clears away the darkness. if he had just ghosted she'd just continue hamstering in another direction, or she'd have found another guy to sucker in without her parents knowing.

the major factor in this clusterfuck we're in right now, is a lack of female accountability, and a lack of shaming them for the blatantly retarded and evil shit they do. truth is she probably didn't learn a damn thing because there must have been at least 20 orbiters ready to pay for another man's child. i've been in a situation where i felt like i could teach a woman the value of personal responsibility and holding herself accountable, and it's just heartbreaking how she has so much orbiters validating her every degenerate choice she makes, that she can never learn to see reason, that she'll always take the path of least resistance. the more men do what that guy did, whether it's 10 on the dickmove chart or 5, the closer women get to coming out of their comas and joining us as contributers to society, rather than as detriments.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy

the thing is, he did the right thing imo. she needed to be disgraced in front of her parents, and her parents needed to see just how much of a failure they were in raising their daughter. the light of truth is never pretty, but it clears away the darkness.

He can do all that and not bring in a child that will grow up in single parent misery. In this scenario you're buying your own smug satisfaction of bitch-got-told with someone else's life and presumable pain of resentment.

the major factor in this clusterfuck we're in right now, is a lack of female accountability, and a lack of shaming them for the blatantly retarded and evil shit they do.

That is true.

[–]aanarchist16 points17 points  (3 children) | Copy

as if she'd have gotten an abortion if he took another route? wrong, she'd have cucked some beta if he ghosted her.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

It is not impossible nor implausible. Let's not split hairs over that. The point is that he pushed the reveal date past the possible abortion date with cold premeditation.

[–]aanarchist23 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy

cold heartless men is exactly what women have been asking for, and so it's what they're getting. her fucking some random behind his back isn't exactly warm.

[–]verify_account35 points36 points  (7 children) | Copy

Christ can you get any more blue pilled? SHE TRIED TO STICK HIM WITH ANOTHER MANS CHILD. SHE FUCKED ANOTHER DUDE AND TRIED TO CUCK THIS MAN INTO RAISING IT.

Who the fuck gives 2 cents about what happens to her. She got what she had coming.

[–]weatherstorme27 points28 points  (4 children) | Copy

They don't care about her, they care about the kid who will more than likely be a BP (if it's a boy) since it will be raised by a single mother who is awful.

[–]main_motors13 points14 points  (3 children) | Copy

And if it turns out to be a girl, she will have daddy issues and feminist bullshit brainwashed into her head from the mother at a young age.

[–]weatherstorme1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yup, basically a shit situation.

[–]1ozaku70 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Atleast it makes for a nice stripper in 20 years from now.

[–]NaughtyFred6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

She got what she had coming.

She did and she deserved to be humiliated. The kid in her belly he let gestate until past the abortion window didn't.

There's a reason why gangsters rarely shoot a pregnant woman deliberately.

[–]RadioactiveTentacles4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

He's not saying it's a dick move because he embarrassed her, its a dick move because now there's pretty much no chance of that kid having a great childhood. He bartered with another persons innocence and childhood. That kid is going to grow up with a young, dickhungry mother, and if it's a boy she's going to indoctrinate him to be the man she couldn't land. Technically, if he told her right off the bat, she might have had an abortion. Is it likely? No. But it theoretically could have happened. So he did fuck a kid over, sort of, but it was still her actions; he wasn't responsible. The dude kind of acknowledges that, but mostly in implication.

[–]1ozaku71 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

He's not a dick at all, she cheated on him and having a child of someone else which she tried to pass down as his. Let the woman deal with her own shit and leave the man out of the stink. Not your kid, not your problem.

[–]SecularNotLiberal4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy

No, I agree. It would have been better for her to abort. Now there is just one more father-less kid who will probably end up in jail or fathering a string of single-parent kids in the future. She may not have gotten the abortion but if he told her early enough, at least it would be on her to make that choice. By waiting til the 3rd tri, he took it away entirely.

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[–]SecularNotLiberal4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

It's not about her, it's about the kid who was born and now will be a drain on society. He should have told her earlier so she could have gotten an abortion and avoided the drain.

[–]stonethemonk11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

The man had no choice at all in the woman choosing to get pregnant.

We need to stop giving them an out, choosing to allow the woman to continue to lie does not mean it is now the man's fault a fatherless child is in the world.

It's hers. Maybe, just maybe, if she could keep her legs shut, have the personal integrity to figure out a way to live life as something other than a parasite, and stop lying about every damn thing she wouldn't have this problem.

I only wish he had been able to make the reveal at a Gala with here social circle or perhaps at church. Then again, I'm not as classy as OP.

[–]WhyNotJustEnjoyLife7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

He would of lived the rest of his life thinking that was his son/daiughter and his gf/ or probably wife by then would of never even brought it up or divorce his ass right after the kid is out. With no remorse. Why shouldn't he do the same. In both cases both guys were just trying to see how fast their pregnant hamsters can spin month after month during the pregnancy and in both cases it reveals that they were even starting to believe their own lies . It's disgusting.

Still sucks for the kid not going to deny that, in hindsight If I was in that position would probably call it early enough to abort but you play with fire you might get burned. And that's a lesson both those women never learned yet.

[–]SecularNotLiberal4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why shouldn't he do the same.

Because he's better than she is or could ever be. It's absolutely deplorable what she would have done if given the chance and it's surprisingly common but that doesn't mean that he should delay past the point of possible abortion. The cost to society from that kid is not worth a justice boner. That's just my take.

But you know, regardless, I'm glad he showed her up. It's too bad that she and her family will no doubt spin a sob story on Facebook so everyone thinks he's meeeean, maybe even set up a GoFundMe. People need to know the truth: she's the one in the wrong. Babies are humans and are not accessories or means to a Wallet. It disgusts me that she has no respect for human life like that, neither his nor her new baby's.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Needs to man up and do his duty to look after the child, clearly.

[–]RatBastardJones5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Damn what happen after? What was their reaction?

Everyone stood up and clapped. That magician's name? Albert Einstein.

[–]trpthrowaway185214 points15 points  (7 children) | Copy

Where's the pink dildo in the story? Lol.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy

Is this a reference to something?

[–]Specter2428 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

There's a video on youtube about a dude who knew his gf/fiancee was cheating and exposed her on camera in a cool way. A pink dildo was present in that video

[–]ChadThundercockII2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Maybe a British movie. It's the story of a guy who got an STD from his girlfriend but thought it was from a hooker. When he finally confronted her, she told him she was in a party with her girls and were passing dildos around. Turns out, she was fucking his friend.

But that's just a guess.

[–]1ozaku70 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Good friend for fucking her, bad friend for not telling him. "Passing around didlo's, yeah, and you don't use a condom on it??? LOL

[–]ChadThundercockII0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Imagine the amount of condoms they'll need!

[–]1ozaku70 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

And how expensive that would be! Just imagine those couple of bucks wasted! Or these fucking stupid teenagers these days. "I'm afraid to buy condoms at Walmart because then the cashier would think I'm doing something natural and half of the population does on a daily basis, better have unprotected sex and risk having a baby instead of going through the embarrasment!!!

Even if she would have been really passing around dildo's, I would kick her into the gutter anyway because that's really disrespectful to risk an STD and then pass it on to me. I don't know where redpill gets these women from, but they are complete thrash and fucked in their minds.

[–]CallMeStarfish1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Anyone have a link to the story?

[–]4D6N23 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

It's currently the top comment in the thread.

[–]PedroIsWatching5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I've heard so many variations of that story, it's basically a copypasta at this point.

[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

As much as this gives me a justice boner, why wait until the third fuckin' trimester? To remove the chance of abortion?

Seriously, the schadenfreude is delish, but not at the expense of a child who grows up without a father.

[–]reddumpling0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I like the fantastic baby reference.

[–][deleted] 47 points48 points  (1 child) | Copy

"IM PREGNANT"
Great first i lose my job then this. Its ok you dont mind spotting me for a while?
"its not yours."

[–]iamz3ro85 points86 points  (38 children) | Copy

Hypergamy dictates that she is to look for the most alpha male her looks/etc can attract. Nearly-wall-hitting and wall-hitting women are very dangerous. OP I suggest you start plating up younger girls who won't be so quick to pull the P-Card.

[–]vagbutters70 points71 points  (22 children) | Copy

Hypergamy dictates that she is to look for the most alpha male her looks/etc can attract.

IIRC women look for alphas most when they're ovulating, and once impregnated look for beta males who can provide for them.

Getting the best genes for their kids while finding someone who can raise them. 2016 is pretty much the dreamworld for every slut who can get a mangina judge behind them.

[–]iamz3ro34 points35 points  (20 children) | Copy

You're mostly correct. Woman's inner game, her most hardcore desire is to find a Alpha Male who she can tame with Beta qualities. She so badly wants to meed Chad in a club, get fucked doggystyle very roughly, then for him impregnate her and once the news is out, exclaim his love and commitment to her.

The whole "alpha when ovulating / beta all other times" is just generally followed by women who are at least aware enough that Alpha males will not commit. So she wants go clubbing 1 week in the month, fuck alpha's, and then come home to her Beta provider.

But, again, the Main Mission, is to tame an Alpha.

[–]JourneymanTRP5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's not the inner most, really. That's more like what she thinks she wants. If she actually tames an alpha, she'll get bored and look for the next one.

Women want an alpha 'project' and someone to make decisions for them, for the most part. They're not going to be satisfied even if they tame one.

[–]vagbutters5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

I don't even know if it's a matter of self-awareness. The study that someone linked a while back suggested that this was an evolved behavior.

[–]Ayleir13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

If seen a couple of studies about this as well. They showed different faces of men to different women, letting them rate their attractiveness, and the ones who were ovulating would choose the men with harsher faces (i. e. stronger, more pronounced jaw lines, full beards etc.) while the ones that were not ovulating would choose the softer, more "feminine" faces.

I'll see if I can find that study.

edit: I found an article about this, however I do not know if this source is credible, as the actual scientific paper is not linked.

[–]1ozaku70 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If I would be fucking horny, I would find the hottest slut in the club and fuck her brains out if I could. If I would be without any lust for sex, I'd just go for a more sophisticated woman who doesn't have to have heels, Cup F tits, a great ass and a very flirty personality and whatnot.

There are some women out there that get a waterfall in their panties when they think about getting impregnated. But women just get alot hornier around their ovulation and seek for male traits. When we are horny, we look for the sluttiest hottest chick around we fuck and dump. That's nature.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (11 children) | Copy

Multiple studies have shown that it's not something they're aware of doing fwiw

[–]RadioactiveTentacles20 points21 points  (10 children) | Copy

No, as a girl, they definitely know they do it. All the girls I work with are that way, but they pretend they're not. After a while, though, it just becomes so second nature to them, they forget that they're doing it, and everyone just accepts this kind of behavior.

[–]StillRedder1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Right! They'll go have a once-a-month girls' night (same week, every time) and their beta boyfriends aren't any the wiser.

[–]Forcetobereckonedwit1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hormone driven. Her brain does not often reason that well.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It isn't consciously, it's her hormons running amuck.

When she's ovulating, she's aggressive, horny, argumentative etc. (and more likely to be repulsed by the sensitive beta), when she isn't, she needs more care and attention.

It's not a bug, it's a feature.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

They don't really do it consciously, they just genuinely believe that Chad would want to commit to them. They find the beta father after Chad leaves them.

[–]JihadDerp5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't think the order of operations is that rigid. A lot of women try to lock down their meal ticket first, then go around fucking genetic superiors.

[–]random13571357[S] 20 points21 points  (9 children) | Copy

I get all of my dates through tinder and pof apps. These sites don't let younger women see my profiles unless they choose to do so.

So I wont attract any girls under 28 unless I go looking for them or they go looking for me, where as I get about 2-3 messages from different women every day between 28-40.

When a fish jumps on the boat, its hard to throw it back.

[–]iamz3ro41 points42 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's the thing though, OP. THEY WANT YOU. They want you to settle for them. You're literally in the peak of your life. Quite literally. Don't pay attention to the old bitches and hit up the young sluts, who, coincidentally are also in the prime of their life.

I read that craigslist post, shit was hilarious. I just want to restate that the fish WILL jump into your boat as that's exactly what they want, they want you, to pull the P-Card and make you commit. Those fish? Poisonous bro. Better to catch your own fish, that way you can choose which fish you want to eat.

[–]forcevacum15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy

Change your age on Facebook and it feeds through into tinder then delete you cache. Then explain its a bug in tinder when you meet

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dude, you already pull a ton of older women. Considering how many younger women go for older men, you'd pull twice the tail.

[–]JihadDerp4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'm 31 and consistently pull 19-24 year olds. Also pof is garbage. You should try okcupid.

[–]PedroIsWatching9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Where I'm from Tinder has turned OKC into an obese single mother wasteland.

[–]poochman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Get out approaching in real life OP. Much higher quality of women to be had out there. Harder than online but learn to game and you're fine. I just made the switch from exclusively online to exclusively in person and couldn't be happier now that I have some decent game. Younger, hotter, and less desperate/damaged than the online hoes.

[–]Ymeynotu0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Your fish analogy proves just how hungry you are. This is not the correct approach.

Those of us that have eaten the finer fish of the sea will wait for a Marlin to be caught or jump into the boat instead of the wall struck octopus's desperately trying to jerk off as many guy as they can wrap their tentacles on to as the impact of the wall makes their ink dryer and slimy body parts more disgusting to the biological imperative of the true alpha.

[–]NakedAndBehindYou6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

OP I suggest you start plating up younger girls who won't be so quick to pull the P-Card.

Well, if he's infertile, he doesn't have much to worry about, does he? Girls about to hit the wall would be more desperate and thus easier to bang. With no major downside there's nothing to lose.

[–]TorboLeto0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

All I see is upside. This is hilarious.

[–]aDrunkenWhaler13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

As long as he's shooting blanks he has nothing to fear. 28-32 range is actually pretty good. They still have the looks, very easy to lay, go overboard to please you and have a lot of experience to fuck your brains. Their only problem is the wall closing in, but that's a manageble concern, especially if you have a vasectomy. Younger girls are usually hotter, but not always, and they take much more of your time to keep and chase after, and are usually lazier and more boring and entitled. They're still worth it, obviously, but as long as you're in the 18-32 range it's all good, it's just a matter of what works best for you and how you handle your shit. If you go over 32 you're a thirsty idiot fucking wrinkles.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

The problem is 28-32 is the danger zone. The baby rabies zone. The time when women hear their biological clock start to tick, realize they don't have a man, and will do exactly what OP described. If you're looking to play, you have to go younger or older, or else you'll be walking on eggshells.

[–]RadioactiveTentacles0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I suggest you start plating up younger girls who won't be so quick to pull the P-Card.

If only this was a viable solution. Girls are pulling that shit at ~16 now. They're all hopping on the Third Wave Bandwagon. They say this shit even if they're not pregnant.

[–]Apexk921 points22 points  (15 children) | Copy

I hear UK has weird parental DNA stuff with how court handles it what if she refused the test and claimed you as the father either way.

[–]Xenotheos19 points20 points  (6 children) | Copy

You might be thinking of France.

[–]phx-au35 points36 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah France has some culture around cuckoldry and not wanting to allow paternity tests in order to 'protect the family unit' or some shit.

[–]jav2532 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Holy shit. I was just thinking reading this thread it would be a feminist wet dream if they could outlaw paternity tests. Cucked France made the dream real.

[–]no_face7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

"Am I alone in hating the French? Didn't think so" --Al Bundy

[–]Apexk92 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

France Britan you're all the same.

[–]random13571357[S] 5 points6 points  (7 children) | Copy

I would really like more details? Can you clarify?

[–]Apexk916 points17 points  (6 children) | Copy

NO validity to statement.

just a hazy memory of a thread about something about court ordered paternity tests excluding the father from the information.

First time checking the sub on a browser. Wow very nice header sharp as fuck

[–]random13571357[S] 23 points24 points  (5 children) | Copy

Did a little google.

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/relationships/children-and-young-people/child-maintenance/child-maintenance-2012-scheme/child-maintenance-application/the-2012-child-maintenance-scheme-you-deny-you-re-the-father-of-the-children/

Says that they can force it on you if you were married to the woman between the dates of conception, but as long as you are not married and you refuse paternity she has to submit to a dna test for child maintenance.

[–]trp_angry_dwarf17 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy

I read everything on that website and it's a fucking red flag minefield.

I don't know how many times I read a sentence that could easily turn into "If you are willing to submit to a DNA test but the mother does not provide consent, you're the father."

[–]forcevacum7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

A judge will throw that out of court in the uk immediately once he sees sperms tests and a vasectomy report.

[–]Endorsed ContributorDenswend56 points57 points  (4 children) | Copy

I predominantly date women between the ages of 28-32 at this time in my life.

I've seen this and put up a major red flag in my mind. Women near Wall are more prone to getting baby rabies. Why would someone aware of RP even do such a thing and then I saw :

Oh and the twist. I got the sip at 28, 8 years ago and I've had 4 sterile checks since.

Fucking savage.

[–]MakeEmSayAyy11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy

I dont know why anyone promotes or fucks with women in that age range. They are FAR more likely to pull some shit like this and they have the entire legal system at their disposal.

[–]1ozaku70 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Well, being a kid, the legal system is pretty good for you. Being a father, it's fucked, and being a woman, it's only fucked if you can't have a scapegoat.

So I'd like to think that they do it for the kids. Just be glad that you're not a woman.

[–]MakeEmSayAyy1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

it's too loose on kids if you were arrested 5 times at age 14 i dont get why you get a clean record but some unlucky fuck who got a one time unlucky thing happen to them at 18 gets fucked for life

[–]2Bait4Me14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

The more I look, the more I see that the red pill is the truth.

[–]1Ronin11A14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy

1 admitted lying about being pregnant to see my reaction. 1 recieved my text explaining I was sterile and i've never been contacted again. 1 remained adamant I was the father, and 2 days ago I was cleared of parental responsibility through DNA test. (The child was not mine.)

Dude, stop sticking your dick in crazy.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Kinda hard when they all are.

[–]stawek22 points23 points  (6 children) | Copy

A little change in law would be in order:

a woman has only one chance to claim the father. If the person she claimed is then cleared by DNA test she can never go after a different man again. She can, however, claim multiple men at the same time, if she isn't sure herself. With a twist: each man will be fully informed about the claims made with other men.

[–]yummyluckycharms13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why would the matriarchy ever accept such a law? It exists to protect women, and your proposed law wouldn't be advantageous to them.

[–]psycho-logical7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

This is pretty brilliant. Prevents fraud. There are situations where multiple possible fathers is not cheating (non exclusive dating, open relationships etc...). However, the woman shouldn't basically be able to try and stick the "best" man with the baby and if that fails move down the list.

[–]stawek8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

This is obviously a joke.
A really sensible approach would be a mandatory DNA check on each and every baby, immediately after birth. mandatory. So that every woman knows with 100% certainty that lying about it will not work.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It still wouldn't be 100% - the people who work in such places would eventually get bribes and offers to forge results, or maybe a doctor calling on "behalf of the family" to "ask a favor".

I do think your solution is the best one, but to think you are 100% secure is foolish.

[–]JackGetsIt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This law assumes women are real people capable of lies and deception. It would never pass.

[–]AdrianWerner27 points28 points  (36 children) | Copy

Yeah. Get vasectomy guys. If you want children in the future just freeze your sperm and in worst case scenario you can always extract fresh sperm directly from testicles. THis way if you ever get a child it will be on your terms and with person you choose to have it with.

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (0 children) | Copy

and never, ever never ever never ever ever ever sign a fucking birth certificate without a DNA test.

if you are scared, say you want to make sure the hospital gave you the right baby or something stupid like that. but never sign a lifelong deal without doing a basic check first

[–]random13571357[S] 26 points27 points  (10 children) | Copy

Vasectomy reversal rates are increasingly getting better.

Within 4 years - 98% effective.

Sliding scale

Within 25 years - 85% effective.

[–]Copenhagen2321 points22 points  (8 children) | Copy

Too bad it is $5k-$10k to reverse the procedure. Your post made me look into a vasectomy. I always thought reversal success was much lower.

[–]Appleseed1233336 points37 points  (0 children) | Copy

Pro Tip: if $5k-$10k will bankrupt you, don't have any children.

[–]lukeyj_gtfc8 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy

You got a reference for this? I'm seriously considering this...

[–]Grimsterr12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you are wanting a kid, and, more importantly, can afford to raise a kid, 10K ain't shit, it's a drop in the bucket of what it's gonna cost you to raise the kid, if you can't afford the 10K you certainly can't afford the kid.

[–]ProbablyAHippo5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

It should be noted for anyone reading this that there is also the chance that your body starts to generate antibodies for sperm, and even if you have a good reversal done after that point, you may not be able to have kids. I don't know the timeframe on that, but I believe it was 8-12 years where it becomes a potential issue.

Source: Had vasectomy, urologist told me this

[–]Eidolon34368 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Guys listen to this brother. When I got my vasectomy I asked my urologist if I could get a referral to the local academic hospital and put some sperm in cryo. Doc said sure if you want but any fertility medicine specialist is going to want to aspirate fresh swimmers from your scrotum via a biopsy needle and local anesthetic. Basically..you dont have to get it reversed...just be prepared to pay for the sperm retrieval procedure and IVF (or IUI too I guess). So much peace of mind now...

[–]forcevacum8 points9 points  (21 children) | Copy

If you do this cover your tracks so no one knows you froze the sperm, it's beyond being paranoid but women have been to take vials of sperm from their dead soldier husbands to have fatherless children in the past.

[–]czmtzc 38 points38 points [recovered] | Copy

You don't store your sperm in your refrigerator, it is kept at a sperm bank cooled by liquid nitrogen.

It isn't like some random can just grab your sperm and use it.

Technically, a widow of a dead soldier would have the property rights to the sperm left behind.

[–]Mithra90098 points9 points  (7 children) | Copy

I think there was one case some years ago where a husband refuse to impregnate his wife because he didn't want children so the wife, knowing of his sperm deposits literally just walked into the sperm bank, requested his sperm and impregnated herself with it. It was something ridiculous like this.

[–]phx-au19 points20 points  (4 children) | Copy

UK. Guy ended up on the hook for child support, despite the fact that she admitted forged his signature on the jizz-release papers.

Being the father is crazy strict liability. In the US a female teacher who rapes a student can successfully sue for child support as soon as the victim turns 18.

[–]prtzlsmakingmethrsty 9 points9 points [recovered] | Copy

In the US a female teacher who rapes a student can successfully sue for child support as soon as the victim turns 18.

Even worse, he's responsible for back-paying the child support, PLUS interest, to his rapist from when he was an under-aged victim!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/02/statutory-rape-victim-child-support/14953965/

[–]phx-au0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sheeeei---it.

This is why I totally support the better social security we have over here in AU. I hear there's crazy pressure for the courts to find someone to pin financial responsibility on, otherwise it comes out the court's/county's budget.

When a kid is inevitable, then someone has to support it - and I think its the role of the state to step up and be cucked on our behalf, rather than ruining an individual's life.

I don't really mind paying child support via taxes to support the average proportion of hoes-in-society if it reduces the risk of shit like that article happening.

[–]forcevacum5 points6 points  (11 children) | Copy

Technically, a widow of a dead soldier would have the property rights to the sperm left behind.

That's what i'm referring to. If she doesnt know it exists she cant get it.

[–]czmtzc 35 points35 points [recovered] | Copy

Welll, we may be different, but if I was dead, I wouldn't care if my widow used my sperm.

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (5 children) | Copy

In the feminist dream world even a dead man must pay child support

[–]stawek6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Example:

She wasn't a good wife, so in your will you assign most of your wealth to charities. She then gets pregnant with your baby which just happens to nullify your will. Now the baby will get most of it and she just happens to be in charge of it.

[–]nezamestnany8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

Why does that matter after they're dead?

When I'm dead I'm dead, I don't give two shits what's done with stuff I had

[–]forcevacum1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Because I personally believe that its better that a child doesn't happen than a child without a proper father is brought into the world. I can see what you are saying, it's just my stance on it.

[–]nezamestnany0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Fair enough, but after I'm dead literally nothing matters to me because a dead person ceases to exist and is incapable of caring about anything

[–]1ozaku70 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So when you get a vasectomy you can still get kids, if they extract it from your balls? Whew, good to know!

I would like to get kids, but kids that are mine and which have a mother that can take good care of them. I don't mind if it's some crappy beta guy, as long as she does a good job, then I'm happy while I fuck the rest of the younger women and living the life.

For those who want kids without the commitment, child support is just a really cool thing as long as it doesn't fuck your finances up completely. Because if the kid would live with you, you would need to pay for every fucking thing. Now you are still paying, maybe a bit more or less, but you have a woman babysitting the kids and you're free to do whatever the fuck you want. Except for some weekends or weekdays, but you get the idea. Turn it into your advantage.

[–]aanarchist6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

you snipped your snip there buddy.

[–][deleted] 39 points40 points  (5 children) | Copy

Hate to sound like some hater, but you've gotta hide your lifestyle.

Unfortunately you check too many boxes women like . Single, homeowner, well paying job? High value target.

Congrats. You're like a bank vault in the middle of the ghetto.

Best solution to this- start hiding your lifestyle.

Invent a wife or LTR , it won't matter one bit if she's into you. Use that as an "excuse" to see her at hotels and places Not Your Home.

It also acts as plausible deniability , so you can tell her you can't hang out "because wife". If you have to drop a plate because of drama , claim your LTR / wife is getting jealous and will drag you into court if you get caught.

It'll cut down on the fake pregnancy claims in this way- because the only thing women fear in this matriarchy is another one of their kind.If you're already "claimed" she won't start shit.

You won't get as much tail by raw numbers as some girls won't pursue a dude they have to fight for, but this tactic will cut down on your visits to the CS office and self- eliminate the worst of the schemers.

[–]hb8only 6 points6 points [recovered] | Copy

he is getting girls BECAUSE his life style. hiding it would be contra productive

[–]infiniteslinky1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I disagree, I think OP just needs to date a higher quality of women.

[–]Purecorrupt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

He said he's on POF and Tinder.

I could be wrong so take or leave this advice as I have not had the problem he described.

Before going through all of that he could just reduce his advertisement of beta bucks. I put a fake profession on my Facebook (which links to Tinder). I also put a fake profession on other dating sites when they are asked or not linked to Tinder.

[–]jazerac0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So your advocating creating a fantasy affair with a girl because this will offset these type of problems?

[–]zeroyon0411 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

Next time someone does that to you, go on Maury with her and rub it in like this.

[–]JackGetsIt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The look on her face is priceless.

[–]runikepisteme4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I am generally against Slut Shaming but when it comes to Women have a hard time identifying the father of their child to collect child support . Yeah that is where I draw the line .

[–]hidano3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

I stupidly banged a hoe without a condom a few years ago. She claimed she was on birth control, and I pulled out, still dumb irregardless. She got sprung on me after that one date, so I decided to completely cut ties.

A month later she texts saying she is late and thinks she is pregnant. All I responded to her was 'ok let me know'. 4-5 hours later she says nevermind, I just started my period, want to hang out?

Never spoke to that crazy ever again. Saw her on a dating site recently with two kids, who look like they are from two different men.

Valuable lesson learned.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Must have been a long 4-5 hours.

[–]1favours_of_the_moon5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

She wasn't lying "just to see your reaction."

[–]UCISee12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

I've never once seen a post 100% upvoted.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm 37 and I only date women 21 to 29....

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

This enrages me beyond reason. The most insane part in all of this is, the society will always side with the women in these cases. Even after it is proven that they lied, people will find some way to see you as the asshole.

[–]CrashXXL3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

The ol' "keep a nigga" baby.

[–]Swedishlean3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

225 and single digit body fat? Let's see a pic

[–]Project_Thor3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Welcome to a well-done Humblebrag.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (12 children) | Copy

1 admitted lying about being pregnant to see my reaction.

Hard next

1 recieved my text explaining I was sterile and i've never been contacted again.

Hard next

1 remained adamant I was the father, and 2 days ago I was cleared of parental responsibility through DNA test. (The child was not mine.)

Hard next

Looks like you need some new plates

[–]random13571357[S] 16 points17 points  (11 children) | Copy

In the last 2 years I've had sex with about 20-30 different women.

Numbers/biological clock = eventual paternity claim.

[–]RageLionRising12 points13 points  (8 children) | Copy

First, I have to say, I'm impressed with those numbers. Good job. With that said, please be careful, dude. With those types of numbers you're risking a false sexual assault claim, too. It can come years down the road even. Take a look at Toby Turner of Youtube fame and the Tumblr post. I would ask all readers to please take hard precautions when you start hitting those numbers. Save texts, save e-mails, especially get pictures and video, etc., etc.

[–]random13571357[S] 9 points10 points  (5 children) | Copy

Yea I fucked a girl and in no uncertain terms told her she can't sleep here, and I made her leave and 20 minutes later text me to tell me how disgusted she was with me using her like that, and I thought you weren't like that and all this crap. Its on my radar, I don't delete text messages.

[–]RageLionRising5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy

Please start getting picture and video, too, to document. At the very least get a picture of her and you smiling together afterwards. Have a nice text convo the next day, etc., etc.

[–]cariboo_j1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Dude pussy sounds like crack, the lengths you guys are willing to go to get a fix / nut off.

You should literally start smoking crack, it might be safer in the long term if you can just keep it to weekends.

[–]RageLionRising0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm an advocate of having long-term financial arrangements with women. If you keep things to fewer partners there's less risk. But to the guys who can waltz right into a bar and fuck a new chick each night I have to tell those guys watch out and take precautions, or there's a covert contract coming your way eventually.

[–]torodinson0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Maybe a pic of you cuddling under a tree while having a picnic in the park.

[–]RageLionRising1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

With a Brazzers logo in the lower right corner.

[–]MakeEmSayAyy0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You dont take that personally? Some cunt tried to fucking CUCK you dude. She wanted you to pay for another man's DNA and not pass on your own.

That's like rape for men, but reproductively even worse.

[–]RageLionRising0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Wait, are you trying to reply to me? If you look at my post history you'll see I'm pretty much an advocate for getting slape legislation being passed into law to protect men (aka "paternity fraud", which is a grossly understated term like calling rape "involuntary intercourse").
 

Slape is a portmanteau of the words slut and rape.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

This is what scares me now that I'm getting back into the dating scene.. I had two pregnancy scares in a month..

[–]CumForJesus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Well, get a vasectomy and/or give fake infos.

[–]Beegsi_6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Legend. You should play along and act beta only to flip the script but who knows theses tricks can cry rape and abuse if you push them.

[–]Tamazin_2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Can't you like sue them in some way to teach them a lesson (and put it on the book that they're liers incase some other guy gets in the same trouble but hasn't snipped and unsure ect.)?

[–]AtlasAtlasAtlas2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

see I wanna get one for protection but then I might want to have kids in the future.

[–]blackhawks932 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Are frozen sperm the same quality as fresh sperm? I'd like a vacemtomy but idk if i want frozen sperm to turn into my future kids.

Sorry English is not my first language.

[–]JackGetsIt2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm curious as well. Why don't you research it a do a post on it. If you need help with the English editing send me a draft of the post and I will clean it up.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

I see a bunch of superficial and material crap showing how you think you are at the top.

Then I see proof that you date crazy low value women.

This is not the real world I live in.

[–]RadioactiveTentacles6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well if you're not really interested in commitment, or anything beyond sex for that matter, what's the point of expending time and effort to find one of the few and far between high value women? No matter how high the value, if you don't want commitment or marriage, then what's the point?

[–]az1160 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yea, I'm not really sure how a $90,000 salary and a $30,000 car put you in the "top". Maybe the UK is different, but that is not even close to being impressive where I'm from.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Question - does the vasectomy take away a chance to have a child forever with no way around it? Can you still extract the sperm from your balls and go for in vitro impregnation? If no, did you save a sample of sperm for the possibility that you will want progeny one day?

[–]Eidolon34361 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

http://theturekclinic.com/services/male-fertility-infertility-doctor-treatments-issues-zero-sperm-count-male-doctors/sperm-retrieval-ivf-success-rates/ and cheaper in India obviously.

[–]RadioactiveTentacles0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You can always freeze sperm, and if that doesn't work too well for you, you can extract. Reversal rates are also pretty high these days, too. One of the posts in this thread says something like 95% reversal after 4 years and 85% after 25 years. So, yeah, getting a vasectomy in no way means you can't procreate. You just have to prepare in advance and choose your method.

[–]Vigilo_Infinite1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I don't know if it's refreshing to see another Brit give testament, or if it's depressing.

TRP tends to be (from what I've seen) dominated by Americans (no problem with that). Of course it gives a bit of false hope to the uninitiated that women from different cultural backgrounds are different.

I suppose a lesson here is the nature of people is universal as far as mating strategy goes, but we all knew that anyway.

[–]yummyluckycharms0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Very rarely does culture impact a woman's natural dual mating strategy. Most often its in places that are highly restrictive - thinking many modern muslim countries where there is the death penalty.

[–]prodigy2throw1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I find these posts hard to validate without seeing some sort of proof. Although I definitely believe this would happen to someone with the stats you've given.

[–]TheBeardedMarxist1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's the age girls you are dating. The clock is ticking for them. Date younger girls that aren't wanting to settle down yet.

[–]Banned_For_Opinion1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

And my mother wonders why I won't just "take a chance and get married".... Go figure, my father doesn't question my choice...

[–]icecow1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Were all of these women letting you raw-dog them with no questions asked?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

DEAR GOD,

please, send a lot of health and wealth to a man who has started THE RED PILL sub. Without him.. men like OP would be miserable and scammed...

thank you!

[–]-LiterallyHitler1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women only know two types of men. Bux and fux.

[–]Pancakes11 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Humble brag.

Majority of British women remind me of major North American metropolitan city women.

Seek females in Southern Europe or smaller North American cities. Hotter , less used up and lower expectations.

[–]xavine1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bless your willpower for using a condom, if I had a vasectomy I wouldn't consider it for more than a second.

[–]rebeccabrixton4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'm disgusted and increasingly not surprised. Just letting you know some women find this abhorrent too.

[–]pennywise21032 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

Next time play along. Text to advise how happy you are and that you cannot wait to man up and put a ring on it. Talk suburbs, names and piss on about how any child of yours deserves the best. Then drop the snip bomb and kick your feet up with a nice cool glass of peach schnapps while the hamster stocks up on Gatorade.

[–]night-addict19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

I wouldn't tickle the beast like that. Better to simply drop the bomb straight up and go silent. Better security.

[–]nezamestnany12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

All of these might be taken as accepting paternity if she goes the court route, so be wary

[–]CumForJesus2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Never leave texts then, go along with it in real life and don't ever talk to her by texts

[–]MazeMouse7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't do this. Never admit to anything like such a thing unless you want to get stuck paying child support for a kid that isn't yours.
If you get a pregnancy scare tell her you've gotten the snip and to let her lawyer contact yours. End of contact with the crazy.

[–]Kalarian_Reborn3 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy

While this is all shitty, I wouldn't say you're at "the top" mate. My first job out of college pays more than you made in 2014-2015 and you're in your mid 30s. And that's basically the middle.

I think you are just attracted to crazy.

[–]random13571357[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

You are a yank. You need to look up actual living expenses in the Uk by comparison to the US.

63k is about 150k US - by living standards not money.

[–]Kalarian_Reborn1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Are you sure?

Quick search on Google shows that London, the most expensive city in your country has 6% cheaper consumer prices, 13% lower rent, and 30% lower groceries than New York City, where I live and work.

4566£ in London = $7300 in NYC. So 1£ in London is $0.63 in New York. Dollar to dollar London is overall 10% cheaper than NYC. Meaning your 63000£ ($72000) is actually only worth about $65k if you lived in the most expensive city in the UK.

Outside of living expenses London has 11% more purchasing power so your money would be about $79k in that regard. I'm not seeing the high life here.

You could compare nation averages I guess and get your money to close to 100k, but that's not an accurate comparison because the US more than 5 times the Uk population and 40 times the area, meaning much more variations of income based on locations and such.

[–]random13571357[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I live in the suburbs, 15 minute drive from a major city.

Its quality of life. 4 bedroom house, good size garden in a nice are gated community, drive a nice car. Living the dream and wouldn't change it.

35 hours p/w 10 weeks holiday a year in a cushy litte job in a office, am my own boss aqnd have nothing to worry about.

[–]Kalarian_Reborn3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

That's nice. But If you live in the burbs that makes your money even less valuable compared to mine. Reinforcing my original point that you are attracted to psycho women more than they are just after your money.

[–]random13571357[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'll admit most of the women I date are the working in supermarket kind, or some low level office job secretary etc.

[–]yomo861 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Snipped, too although I'm not 6'5 more 5'10 but I experienced this twice, as well. I believe one girl when she said she has not had her period in 3 weeks (she was on flu drugs). And the other was not even a crazy. She was a decent woman.

The next time this happens I'll let everbody know she is acquainted with that she is pregnant and then out of a sudden my urologist finds out I'm sterile. Ooops... you whore. Maybe I should attach a rumor of an abortion as well.

[–]dking1683 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Another thread that starts with height and weight of a Chad Thundercock (6'5 225). I'm surprised you didn't mention you are white as well.

Congrats, you are genetically advantaged and built to be more successful. Don't mistake me for hating because I'm happy for you and I'm sure you worked hard. I just wish more stories on here were transformations from people who go from Beta to Alpha. They seem to make more of an impact to me because I want to hear other people's stories on their metamorphosis and apply them to my own life because I was Beta my whole life and I'm still working on trying to improve. Obviously, it takes time and a lot of hard work but I like to hear others who are also on the journey with me.

This post is simply a AWALT which there is nothing wrong with that but as a top post, it feels way too hubris for information that can be easily found in the side bar.

[–]Matexqt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Too bad that I want to have kids in the future, then again I will simply get sperm frozen to protect myself against traps.

What a nice story, remember how all women are innocent victims however. :)

[–]SecularNotLiberal0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You should make notarized copies of the doctor notes/test results (like in the CL story below) to make it easier on yourself. Each time they claim you're the father, just send her a copy of your procedural note/test results and she will go radio silent.

[–]SmilingWatermelon0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Im only 20...what age would you suggest getting snipped at? I doubt girls my age would try this shit, so im guessing early 30s?

[–]graffix131 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Do you want kids? If not, do it ASAP. Girls all ages will try this shit.

[–]Tarnsman4Life0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Your SMV must have been so much higher than the other guys woman #3 fucked in that time frame that she had hamstered hardcore that you are the father. Obviously the other real pregnant chick was fucking lots of other guys on the CC of similar SMV so having you reveal you got the snip was not so earth shattering to her.

[–]poochman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I suppose this is case and point why we are told to avoid wall-approaching women.

[–]KM315480 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Reading shit like this is just plain scary, especially in the States. This makes me hope that Vasalgel comes through here soon. This could be a potential game changer for us gents. Please support it if you can afford to, I've made two donations so far.

[–]gnarledrose0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

My vasectomy was $750, paid by my work's FSA. A year later, I can easily say it was totally worth it. A week of pain for a lifetime of no baby-scares.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is really scary coming to the realization of just how manipulative women can be. Yeah, I don't want kids and regarding a vasectomy, it's not a matter of if, but when.

[–]TedTheAtheist0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I would have so milked that shit. I would have had dinner with her and her family and friends, and THEN break it to her then so everyone knows how much of a slut she is. I would have had a golden time.

1 admitted lying about being pregnant to see my reaction.

I got this once, a couple times.. girl wanted to see how I'd react.

[–]FUCK_YEA_GLITTER0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I got this once, a couple times.. girl wanted to see how I'd react.

How do you handle this? I'd probably get pissed and dump her on the spot in dramatic fashion.

[–]TedTheAtheist0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yea, if a girl ever does that, I think it's grounds for dismissal.

[–]Hjalmbere0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Had two different women (they thought they were special, I didn't) try to pull that with me. One of them was actually pregnant, but not by me. I think the other was just trying to pull a fast one. Either way I dumped them both.

[–]pfthewall0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

They are probably trying to trick you into marrying them or take care of another man's baby or both.

[–]kurrlord0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I wish I had your problems haha.

[–]BlackHera0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You really have to watch ALL these women man, you NEVER know. It's ridiculous. Make sure you ass is covered at ALL times.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

We will eventually reach the point where This will be reality:

http://shrink4men.com/2012/04/03/paternity-fraud-what-would-you-do/

Any unwed single mother with a child can point at any random man and say "YOU'RE THE FATHER!"

And you're on the hook for child support for life, a total stranger...

[–]yallapapi0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm poor and have no ambition. Maybe that's why this has never happened to me

[–]ayesee3450 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

One thing I've never understood is this sensitivity around going to get tested in the first place. I don't care if she thinks it's insensitive of me to want to know if I'm really the father of someone instead of just "accepting my responsibility" or if I'm implying she sleeps around or is a slut by claiming it might not be mine. Fuck that, if I want to know, I'm gonna find out.

[–]MajorStyles0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Clearly, you have a problem with strong, independent women.

Just kidding, congrats (I think).

[–]Natural_RP0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is why I hide the money I make. I do quite well myself, over 6 figures but from my lifestyle you wouldn't really know it. I just have decent stuff nothing really amazing.

Anyway I started dating this girl and she did seem very cute and innocent (lolz). After a few dates and a bunch of sex she made a comment about wondering who makes more money. I just kind ignored it but she pressed. So even though I knew it was really stupid I figure as a kind of experiment I'll just tell her approximatley how much I make just to see what she does.

Now not that very night but the next time we has sex, she says, during said sex , multiple times "cum in me" and several variations of that. Of course I don't because I'm not 100% retarded.

After I asked why she wanted me and she claims to have some condition that makes it very difficult but not impossible to get pregnant. So she fully admits it's still possible but still wants to take the risk.

Anyway after a few more hookups she got annoyed that I would grant her request so she took off. As you can imagine I didn't put up much of a fight.

[–]TheRedStoic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yup. I'm born sterile, got snipped to be absolutely certain.

Can't wait for vasagel, every man should have this freedom. And every lying slore needs to be shut down.

[–]Stonish0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

What if we'd lie to women about being sterile just to see if she is saying truth or not? Thoughts?

[–]greatslyfer1 point2 points  (12 children) | Copy

225lbs, 6'5, >10% BF?

http://www.naturalphysiques.com/28/fat-free-mass-index-ffmi

You juicing brah?

[–]_rs6 points7 points  (6 children) | Copy

Ain't nothing wrong with that...

[–]prozium_popper0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

can steroid fuck you up long term? or is there a way of doing it which eliminates all long term health effects?

[–]_rs1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

They definitely can, the steroids sub has a great wiki and can answer this better than me.

[–]prozium_popper1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

does not really seem worth the risk to me

[–]1Jaereth1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

No reason to do them.

Just being a RP male and understanding how to hold frame and conduct yourself puts you into the top 10% of men pretty much right there.

That being said, now add any kind of bodybuilding results, even natural ones, and you are way ahead. I was just on a weeks vacation (Tropical beach area) and I was amazed at how few guys are even built anymore. I think I saw maybe two guys a day tops that actually had some good arms/chest on them.

In my opinion there's no need to do that shit when even natural results will differentiate you from your peers pretty quickly it seems nowdays.

[–]Dookiestain_LaFlair0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Nah, there's no risk to using them long term, look at Kimbo Slice.

[–]verify_account6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

please no swole shaming thx

[–]stawek3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

None of your business even if he is.

[–]JackGetsIt1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Those are achievable numbers without test but it wouldn't matter if he was on it. It's harmless if used properly.

[–]greatslyfer0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

The adjusted FFMI was just over 25.

Studies show that the upper limits for naturals is at 25.

You tell me, with his tone in his boasting, that he might be on the juice. I'm just saying, many people like to deny it which I think is a bit insecure on their part.

[–]JackGetsIt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

He could also just be bullshitting a bit on his BF numbers. BF is notoriously difficult to measure consistently.

[–]pm_your_nudes_women0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hehe got fixed at 27. Now 28 and waiting for these times and accusations to come by :)

[–]1PantsonFire12340 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There's nothing worse than a woman playing games because she thinks she can tie you down. I fucking hate it when women change their usual slut programming just because they think they've a chance with me.

[–]GunPostal0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I guess you insist on unprotected sex with each of them. Do you go raw in day one or you take it slow?

Do you also cum inside them all the time?

Do they ever protest to prevent your condomless dick before entry or they hop on it immediately?

[–]DivorceRape0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Pregnancy scares are emotional abuse. It can cause PTSD and depression in the victims.

I am concerned at times about how we view all men in red pill as I believe we need to support all men. I had a gf who pregnancy scared me every month when I was a complete beta. She also was violent and when I went to the cops they ignored me.

In a just society this would be punished and abhorred as much as other forms of violence.

[–]All-DayErrDay-1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy

You make £63,000 and you're at the top? What's making you at the top.

[–]random13571357[S] 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

63k is plenty. I work 35 hours in a cushy office job, am my own boss. Drive a nice car, have a good home. Top 5% easy.

[–]YYasuoLogic 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

What is your job if I may ask? You live in england I suppose? 63.000gbp is quite a salary you got there.

[–]yummyluckycharms0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Its all relative....

What the top 1% require in places in South Africa, wouldn't be equal to the tip the average valet or caddy would get in places like Saudi Arabia

[–]Schroef-2 points-1 points  (3 children) | Copy

Maybe you should date other kind of women.

[–]hurtingyourfeefees11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

This sub convinced me to never trust women, never date women,or never have sex with women because of all the bullshit and lies.

Now I fuck dudes. I couldn't be happier.

[–]Schroef1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well there you go. I always thought this sub was filled with closeted gay people, happy Redpill made you get the life you always wanted!

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Maybe you should stop fucking hoes? Just a thought.

[–]Theniggestbig-2 points-1 points  (4 children) | Copy

Assuming what you say is true, these women are fucking men even lower class than you. And you're all fucking them raw, enjoy your stds.

[–]random13571357[S] 3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

I use condoms as well, i'm not stupid.

[–]Theniggestbig-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy

As well as what, not using them? If so that defeats the purpose.

And by the way can you really blame a women for choosing the best option for the child? A man with a house is better than a nobody, or nobody.

[–]random13571357[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

As well as having the snip.

[–]Theniggestbig-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I see. I'm just talking shit anyway.
I mean what I say about a women choosing the best option when faced with a pregnancy. I don't think they should put themselves in that position however.

[–]disposable_me_0001-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

is that your yearly salary? Because that doesn't seem that high, esp for downtown anywhere UK. I'm an American, so I don't really know jack shit about UK economics.

[–]Eyes_Of_The_Dragon-5 points-4 points  (7 children) | Copy

Too bad we can't drag her name through social media like that Brock dude.

[–]yonderposerbreaks7 points8 points  (6 children) | Copy

Um, Brock raped someone. It's a little different.

[–]1Ronin11A13 points14 points  (2 children) | Copy

That Brock Turner kid deserves every bit of suffering that comes to him. Blue Pill asshat with zero game assaulting an unconscious woman behind a fucking dumpster. Nothing alpha or Red Pill about that pond scum.

[–]Andgelyo2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed. You can tell by his face he is a beta and had to resort to raping a woman.

[–]NaughtyFred2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I use the "high-heel test", if she's too drunk to walk straight in her heels then she's too drunk to fuck.

[–]stawek0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Scamming a man into cuckoldry parenthood is male equivalent of rape.

[–]yonderposerbreaks2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

No, rape is the male equivalent of rape. She attempted fraud, which is shitty, but it just ain't rape.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think it's your target age that is fucked up.

A quality woman is in a relationship by her late teens and married in her early twenties. If you don't have one by then (like me) your chances at scoring a unicorn are pretty slim.



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